Adeptus Ridiculous - ARMAGEDDON STEEL LEGION: RAISE HIGH THE BANNERS OF VENGEANCE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousThe Armageddon Steel Legion are the Imp...erial Guard Regiments native to the Hive World of Armageddon. True to its name, Armageddon has been the site of three massive battles in the history of the Imperium, most recently a pair of invasions by the Ork Warboss Ghazghkull Thraka. As a result, the armies of Armageddon are very skilled in fighting Orks.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantis. His name is Bricky. And, oh, boy, it's a Karioth episode. But before we get into that, if you enjoy today's episode of the podcast and maybe you want to support us, feel free to head on over to patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you can get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen, $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in crispy HD digital format. It's great.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. Bricky, how about that merch? And what about that book? That big book? Well, I mean, the big book, it's the big DACA. Hell yeah, brother. The Big DACA.
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Starting point is 00:01:21 Do merchandising now? You're really branching out that merch store. Add Rick the Flame Throar. Kids love this one. Kids love it. Hell yeah. Check it out in the description. Honestly, I'm disappointed that you all haven't already bought merch.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Before the episode even starts, you should have rushed to Orchate8.com and bought everything. I, uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, not, that's, uh, that's, uh, that's, that's, a lot of work. That is, wow, that's, uh, I am, Mr. Mr. Muri, Mr. Muriel, Mr. Curia, sir and friend, for so many reasons. Uh, you, you, you, you, you, you have a, you, you, you, you, arrived upon this stream the day of my daughter's wedding and you
Starting point is 00:02:19 in fact have had a very light month yes yes yes no I am so disappointed you didn't do the Marlon Brando like voice you come to me on the day of my daughter really you can't do the Brando voice
Starting point is 00:02:39 wasn't that the voice though I don't have cotton ball stuck in my I don't have cotton balls stuck in my mouth, so I can't really do the Marlon Brando thing. Then why are you mad that I couldn't do the Marlon Brando thing? Because you always have balls in your mouth. Let's go! Kiriath, what are we doing today?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Wow. Wow. See, it's not good because you zinged yourself. That was impressive. So, anyway. Oh, my God. All right, Corioth. All right. Tell me about balls.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I mean, we can go into balls, but it might have to wait for a future episode, because that's going to require... I mean, technically, we sort of did some last month with the whole demon world's thing. But that was last month, right? I get very confused. It's... It's okay. It's Kiriath. What are we doing today, buddy? It doesn't have to be balls. It's okay. What are we doing? Thank you. That makes it a lot easier. Yeah. I have a quote for you.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Shit! What? No! Super easy. You'll be absolutely fine. You'll totally get this straight away, okay? All right. I don't believe you. Shy doesn't believe you. No, you. Have faith. Bricky doesn't believe you. None of us believe you. We do not wither before the flames of war, for our resolve is like steel and only hardens with heat. Do not let these new foes forget who we are. Show them our strength and our unbending fury. that's such a that quote can be attributed
Starting point is 00:04:18 to like 9,000 factions I so since there's such a huge emphasis on heat like my mind immediately goes to like salamanders but like we've done all we could do on salamanders and I somehow don't think you would do an episode
Starting point is 00:04:37 on salamanders I can see that so like there's also a part of me that thinks you're going to be doing like a deep dive on how a melta works or something because it's a machine it's a weapon honestly i got i got nothing dude i got nothing hour on how melters work would yeah and that would test the fans resolve i reckon like melta heavy flamers holy weapons holy fire uh i i don't i don't know, dude. What are we doing, Karioth? Because I, yeah, that, how was that an easy one?
Starting point is 00:05:16 I like, I like how D.K. just decides to immediately assume that he's the only one who's allowed to answer the quote and then just skips right over me. Oh, oh, sorry, Bricky. It's usually me. He doesn't need a guess. He doesn't need a guess at all. Sorry, Pricky, what are you? Goodness gracious. Sorry. He takes a whole monologue. It doesn't even let me have my parts. Sorry. It's usually just me. I'm not used to the Kiryat one every month where we both get to answer. Sorry. You did say the fire is in the end and the anvil type thing. I did actually kind of think Sally's also, but I kind of get like a little vibe of like fugin. Like a little fire dragon type thing because you say unending fury and then like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:05:57 it goes and then they kind of had this like interloper doodad, which is kind of like, oh, evil aliens or you like lesser, lesser species. But I'm assuming I'm not quite right. Good guess, though. Yeah, I mean, it's not bad. There's a couple of key words in there. I mean, one of them is, it kind of narrows it down a fair bit. But one of them is the mention of steel, and the other is the unbending fury.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So you're not... Prons? No, no, no. This is a human fashion. Yeah, guys, crons aren't steel, that's a good point. Yeah, yeah. They're necrodermis. Well, when you steal an unending fury.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So the funny part about unending fury is that that is kind of chaos coded, but it's also totally Imperium coded. Yeah. So I don't know, like Iron Hands? No. You get in like the metal side of things you've really honed in on, but there is a human faction, or at least a sub-faction that has the whole metal thing going that you haven't quite stumbled into yet. It's our old favorites, the Imperial Guard, the Steel Legion. Oh, oh, that, okay. Would I have known that?
Starting point is 00:07:18 No, you wouldn't have. I'll be honest, I was mostly gassing you up with the mild expectation that you were going to fail, but I really hoped that you would pull it off. Yeah, that one would have been tough for me, honestly. The Steel Legion, that would have been tough. I don't believe I've ever heard of them, but yeah, that's rough. That's rough. Thank you for having faith in me though, but I have, as my parents well know this feeling, I have disappointed you. No, never. I believe in you. You get knocked down and you get back up again. That's how it works. You're never going to keep me down. Yeah, exactly. I was really hoping that you would carry that on. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So, yeah, we're going to talk about the Armageddon Steel Legion because they are one of, I think they're one of my favorite Imperial Guard regiments. they start out, their life starts out rough, right? Armageddon as a planet. I mean, there is probably an entire episode to be done on each of the wars for Armageddon. They're currently on the third. It's a trilogy, except if you've read the series about the Beast, spoiler alert, technically. How depressing must that be? It's like, oh, what's your home planet? Armageddon. It's like, oh, Sounds lovely. Sounds like a lovely place to visit. Ah, I'll come visit never.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So, Armageddon has had, or is in the process of having its third war, it still hasn't stopped. It's still coming in the process. Sorry. It's also kind of funny, though, because, like, Armageddon's not a great place to live, but the fact that Armageddon is less dangerous than Katachan is just kind of funny as a concept. Oh, yeah. Katachin's significantly more dangerous. dangerous than the Armageddon.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Also, being Armageddon, it means it's the Armageddon sector. So it's like, it's applied to everywhere. Everywhere's awful, apparently. It's not, it's an interesting planet because they wrote a whole series about the Beast and it kind of comes up there as well, which is a whole thing that could probably, again, be gotten into in a different, in a separate episode, there is a lot of baggage attached to Armageddon, which means that funnily enough, the Steel Legion are, they're kind of unique in a way. When it comes to the Imperial Guard, there is not a huge number of regiments that have like
Starting point is 00:09:48 a large amount of mechanised infantry, so infantry supported by chimeras, transport. But Armageddon, however, with the Steel Legion, have a massive number of mechanised infantry. Because Armageddon itself produces a ton of chimeras. And because they produce a ton of chimeras, that means the Steel Legion gets to keep quite a lot of them for themselves. Which is super, super handy because the world that they are on and the world that they come from is constantly beset by war between orcs, imperium and demons. Just constantly. The third war for Armageddon didn't technically stop.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It just carried on. They're still the primary hive of Armageddon hive Asheron. That is constantly under attack. And you can literally, at any given point, during any time of any day, of any year, here the shells of artillery falling as the war just rages on around that particular hive. Armageddon also being a hive planet
Starting point is 00:10:58 means you've got a ton of these hive cities, which are full of gangers, brutal gang wars, and the Steel Legion themselves often get recruited from those gangs. And in times of dire, desperate need, they will recruit an entire just an entire like ganga organization into the steel legion themselves,
Starting point is 00:11:20 which is super handy because that means that by the time they get to the Imperial Guard and by the time they start training, most of them, they already know how to fight because they've been killing people in the hive cities from the moment they're able to hold some sort of horrible weapon. So Armageddon is just 24-7 war. Like it just don't, it just don't stop. They are just constantly at war. And Steel Legion, very to their name, have a lot of, you know, steel mechanized stuffs.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I find the Armageddon to be kind of like the, I wouldn't say cheap, but like, I don't know, it's like you had Cadia, right? Well, you had Cadia. Had. You had Cadia. And Cadia was like the go-to never-ending war main export, like, Iotterras right next to it, manufacture kind of thing. But I always feel like Cadia always got the good stuff. And so Cadia was like, yeah, we're the forever war people, but we're also like top dog. We're the valley girls of war people.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Armageddon is like, yeah, I live the same life, but I'm poor as shit. And I'm in the dirt. And this sucks. I will now forever always hear Cady and soldiers in the Valley Girl voice. The Valley Girl Cadians. Like, oh my God, we're right next to the Eye of Terror. and my dad is like such a good warrior and oh my god i'm fighting up demons what is that giant eight-pointed star coming from the sky it's getting bigger oh my god i guess we'll just i guess we'll just have to kill demons
Starting point is 00:12:57 i think i think that might be the worst thing i've ever heard i think it might be up there wow really katian valley girl is the worst thing you've ever heard i gotta be honest brother you you've You've heard worse. Yeah, you have not. You've been around us for long enough to have heard worse than Cady and Valley Girl. That's absolutely fair. Also, the last sentence left by shy. I feel like we've failed that immediately.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So that's, that's excellent. Oh, no, I didn't even see that before we went into Cady and Valley Girl. Yeah, okay. No one to say anything about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, when it comes to the edit, be a nice surprise. Be a lovely surprise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, to pretend that didn't happen. Love to see what image she puts in for that one. God, that is going to be bad. Yeah. So, the Steel Legion have something that I think really sets them apart. Outside of, like, vast numbers of chimeras, which, by the way, just a note, when it comes to them, like, committing acts of war,
Starting point is 00:14:00 one of their tactics is legitimately just to drive vast numbers of chimeras into the enemy and then get out and start shooting. which 10 out of 10 tactic. I absolutely love that. That's fantastic. Just drive them in there and then get out, start, start blasting. Why would you get out of the Kimer? Isn't the Khyberra fairly heavily fortified though?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Like doesn't it have like big guns and stuff on it? Or am I thinking of something different? It's got Las Guns sticking out of the top, which you technically, I think the Las Guns of the actual people inside. Have you seen the Las Guns sticking out of the top? In the model, they look. so derpy. It's just like little circling rotating things.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Can I see a picture of the chimera? Yeah, I got you. Okay. So the chimera, okay, the chimera is a troop transport. It's an APC. And so the whole point of it is like, here's a couple guns on it, but then you're driving up a squad of 10 people and then they jump out and then
Starting point is 00:15:01 they beat the shit out of you. Okay, I thought it was like a, just like a tank tank. I didn't realize it was a troop transport deal. Yeah. No, you're thinking of like the lemurrus. Yeah. Oh, it's like a, it's got a bulldozer front too.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Oh, that's a great. Now it makes sense as to why you would just like, oh, yeah, right into a bunch of enemies and then just unload, like, just steamrolling with the bulldozer front shovel thing. Oh, that's great. Okay. I get it. I'm a board. I'm a board. Ram them in the face.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Get out the back and then shoot them in the face. Okay. Cool. Cool. And surely one person stays on that top turret and just, you know. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the guy got the driver in the turret and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But I mean, like, Steel Legion is very much the, I mean, I'm sure you were getting to this, but to jump the gun of teeny bits. It's very much like the Blitzkrieg faction. Because that, because that was, yeah, that was kind of, you know, that was the strat. And the 40s was like really, really fast, go forward, take things like, you know, kind of deal. And so when you load up a bunch of APCs full of guys and you just send them out in droves and not just like, in droves, like in Imperial Guard level droves, you know, you're just going to overwhelm everybody. Also, wow, that is a big flamer that that guard is holding.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. Like, good Lord, that is almost as big as him. I mean, they look solid. If you couldn't tell it already, definitely have a bit of a 40s, like, uniform design with the coats and everything and the drab. Definitely a world war aesthetic for sure. Well, I guess that's the guard.
Starting point is 00:16:38 in general, right, is sort of the old school World War uniforms. Yeah, but like, you know, Kriegsman is very much like World War I. This is much more World War II. Yeah, yeah. Dudes from the 40s fighting stuff from a beyond the void. It's kind of a mix for the Steel Legion. So if I remember, right, the coats are based on World War I stuff, like British World War I great coats, whereas the helmets are like a whole. 100% World War II German stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So they've kind of, I mean, they've kind of done the same thing that they do with a lot of it, where they just take a couple of things that look cool and then just mangle them together to make one thing that looks pretty cool. And they do a Blitzkrieg, right? And that was a very World War II German thing, right? The Blitzkrieg offensive that helped them, like, basically conquer big swaths of Europe because nobody was ready for it. Yeah, very, very fast moving.
Starting point is 00:17:38 You know, take everything incredibly quickly. And I guess, like, I don't know. Like, Armageddon, I don't know, Kyrioth, like, they're very fast because of their whole steel, like, you know, APC carriers and stuff like that. But I feel like they're, they're not, like, Talon Raiders fast. They're more about just, like, having lots of mechanized infantry. Yeah, they're sort of, I guess, like, the kind of middle ground in a way. They're a lot more implacable because they have all of that, like, all of the,
Starting point is 00:18:08 transports and tanks and so on. And so they might not be as fast as talon offensives, but they've got quite a lot of staying power because pretty much all the squads have got a transport with them. So they're all that little bit more protected than most other Imperial Guard regiments. So they do get in there quickly, but they also have the added advantage of just having a lot of armor
Starting point is 00:18:32 to back them up and to get them into the fight as fast as possible. Plus they also have like, the sort of iconic look that they've got with the gas masks and the trench coats and stuff, that's all there to protect them primarily on Armageddon. So if they go outside, like if you just wander about in Armageddon, outside of the hive cities, your lungs will just start to dissolve and rot, because it's an industrial hellscape and there's so many toxins in the air. And of course, now it's full of, God knows how much awful debilts.
Starting point is 00:19:08 and like all the sort of things that will come from the fallout of three gigantic wars, one of which is still ongoing. So if you try and just leave a hive city and go for a walk, your lungs will just burn up, rot away, and that'll be it, you're gone. So they have these gas masks, they have these like specially chemically treated coats. They always wear gloves whilst they're on arm again because, Otherwise, just the atmosphere itself, just being out and about on their home planet, will generally kill them.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So a lot of their protective gear is for the environment of where they're from. But it also means that when they get deployed elsewhere, they're really good for assaulting toxic environments and places that have, like, heavy damage to the environment itself, because they've already got all of the gear for that, because they have to have that to go for a walk outside at home. Right. So if you wanted to go after, well, I guess I was going to say if you wanted to go for like a death world or something or a heavily polluted world, like they would be perfect because they are literally built for that. Also, yeah, that, wow, that picture of Armageddon is, uh, is, is, is kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It's great. I mean, that, to be fair, like, the place is called Armageddon. And when I think of a, an Armageddon, it sure looks a lot like that. That is pretty, pretty spot on. Yep. It's just like, where does the fires end and the sky begins? I don't know, but I'm sure we'll figure it out if we look hard enough. It's the fun part. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It's just one and the same. It's just all the same thing. What are those transports? I was about to say the same thing here. I actually dig the shit out of those. They look. They're awesome. They're like a mixture.
Starting point is 00:21:06 kind of a vibe actually. Well, not just that, but they also have a bunch of, like, the new Rogel Dorn accoutrema that puts on the sides of it, like all the gas tanks and the, you know, it's the 40s thing, like you pull all your packs and stuff on the top.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and like... They look like chimera, like, the chassis is the chimera, but then they've got these kind of running boards, and then the wheels as well, and what, what are they? Where do I... Oh, okay, custom-made.
Starting point is 00:21:36 in White Dwarf. Oh, okay. Maybe the TORox wheels are being added, perchance. Do they have to especially chemically treat like everything? Like, say that they take that transport outside.
Starting point is 00:21:50 They've got all their supplies on the side. Do they have to, like, cover them in a tarp? Otherwise, like, just the crazy atmosphere will just, like, start melting them? Like, do they have to do that with everything? Or just their skin? Stuff that's, like, kind of, like,
Starting point is 00:22:06 fibers and flesh and stuff needs to be protected, but as long as the transports and tanks are like properly sealed, then they're fine to go, they're fine to kind of go out into Armageddon proper. They do produce because of the... It's a weird thing to say. The problem bit of Armageddon. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:29 They do produce their own versions of a few Imperial Guard tanks. So, like, the Basilisk and the Medusa are both tanks that have open tops. Well, technically, I think they're self-propelled guns, not tanks before someone in A, the chat, or B, the comments gets annoyed at me. But because of where they come from, their versions of them have to be sealed. So they can't just be out and about. Yeah. So they have these special versions of them, which used to be available from Forge World. and I don't know if they still are, but they look way better than the normal versions.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So they also have their own version of the Sentinel as well, which I really, really like. It's like the coolest version. Definitely that old school World War vibe for sure. Also, Shai said these are the locations on Armageddon, the fire wastes, the boiling sea, hive Deathmire, hive infernice, the ash waste, the Deadlands, etc. It's a nice place. I would love to vacate. It's great.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Oh yeah. The number one vacation spot in the Imperium. There is somewhere that's been missed, which has to be mentioned, which is the black lung tar pits. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. My dream job is to work the black lung tar pits. Ah, what a dream spot. I'm just happy that they know where they are.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You know, because you, like I mentioned earlier, you had you had your Acadian one. right? And it's like the fortress of defiance, the bastions of honor. You get things like this and they're just like, hey, dude, where are you patrolling this time? I'm going to roll around in the boiling sea. Yeah, I have to go scout out the death mire, the hive death mire. Yeah, that's going to suck. Oh, well, you know, that guy over there has to go, you know, work all day in the black lung death tarpets. It's, it's, it's, nice. They really, they know what they've got. They know what they've got, they're not afraid to just be, just be fully, fully on board with it. Also, the Hades Hive, again, great, great.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Complete lack of symbolism there. You know that that's bad. Shai said, I mean, you've been to the Inland Empire. Yeah, I used to live there. And that's basically Hive, Deathmeyer, yeah. Yeah. It's great. I mean, Armageddon is, there's a lot going for it, but only in a narrative sense. In terms of like, would you want to be here? 100% no. Not at any point. It's got to be one of the worst places to just to have to live or grow up.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I mean, if you do get born there, you're born into a hive city. There's nowhere else for you to be. And because hive cities are also like, they're like habitation blocks, they're also administration blocks. They're also manufacturers as well. So, you know, you could grow up in a tiny room right next to a plant that's churning out millions of lasguns a year. And then you know that come the right time, you too will move next door to help churn out millions of lasguns a year. But before then, you could get involved in some sort of horrific gang war, which, you know, sees half your family dead or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:57 but it's okay because you then get saved from making the last guns because there's been another push by the orcs in the never-ending third war for Armageddon which means that you get recruited into the Steel Legion so then you get to go outside and by outside I mean into that picture that shy posted earlier you got a grand life going on brilliant yeah that that sounds like winning the shit lottery being born on Armageddon because like there's just no one winning. You don't get to win. You don't get to be happy unless somehow you survive that hellscape. And they're like, oh, yes, this Steel Legion, we need X amount of soldiers to leave Armageddon and go to some other death world. And it's like, oh, you know what? This is marginally better than that shit hole I came from. Okay. I'd like to, I'd like to think about a cultural thing here. I'm not sure if I'd say that you're not happy in this. situation. I go with a much
Starting point is 00:26:58 different attempt. I go more on the lines of like, hey, I love this place. I love fighting and murdering every single day. It's the best. I'm having a blast. I see it more on that side of the world.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Ah, you're, you're sipping that corn juice, huh? Listen, you know, what was that old quote about, um, about Katachin where they're like, uh, um, I've,
Starting point is 00:27:26 I've, Oh, I've had 14 foot infections, three things try to bite my head off. And I've sweated so much, fills an entire, like, a week's worth of a canteen water. The Emperor saved me. This place is just like home. I love it. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah, you know what? We're looking at it from the perspective of outsiders. If you're born there, the chance to go out and kill, you know, potentially just an unending number of of orcs, it might be pretty cool. You might be like brought up thinking, yeah, but one day, if you're lucky, you're going to get drafted and you're going to learn how to take an orcs head off with a very small knife in record time. And when that day comes, you're going to love it. You're going to be 100% on board and it'll be like the best time of your life.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I mean, that is actually something about the Steel Legion. Funnily enough, they do have particular speciality in killing orcs now. you will not be shocked to learn. I was going to say, they've had a little practice, haven't they? They're very good at it now. They're very specialized towards killing orcs. And they also do something cool where they take the commanding officer's masks, like gas masks, re-breaters even, and they are sculpted into the form of skulls because the orcs are superstitious and it freaks them out.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So you've got like commanders walking around with a skull-shaped rebreather, which is, I mean, that's pretty badass. That is very, very cool. But yeah, I guess when you're, when you grow up on Arm again, that's the only life you ever know. So it's like, you don't know that you have it bad. You're just like, hell yeah, brother, I'm going into kill shit. And that's all I've ever known. And let's go. And yeah. I need to. I actually, if I'm not mistaken, there was, uh, I got to roll back to ninth edition 40K. But back when the rules were, well, um, the rules were different. But they, they, they, They were definitely more flavorful. I'll say that. I'll say that. I'll say that. They were certainly more fluffy. We'll go with that.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But there were a couple of like, like warlord traits, but there were certain kinds of relics and things you could take when in this, you know, world at the time. And the heirlooms of conquest. And I believe one of them was a Armageddon Steel Legion, I don't know, a chain sword or something that specifically was meant to murder. orcs, which was, I thought, quite funny. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. There was, they had a couple things like that, and it was just really, it's very much like,
Starting point is 00:30:05 yeah, these guys, just like how the indigo, oh, indigin, indigo prefects, I forget exactly their name. They're the people who are basically like mortal engines, the books and movie series. They got really, really good at killing Nids, because killing Titanic. panic monsters is like just what they, what they're up to. Mm-hmm. So, so if there's a wah that breaks out in the Imperium, would they, like, call on the Steel Legion more than anybody else because that's, like, their thing?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Or just... Honestly, I don't know. I think they still, they are still, like, active outside of Armageddon. They don't all just only, like, go for Armageddon. But it's like the vast majority of them are kind of busy there. Yeah, I guess it's a lot going on. It's constant warfare on Armageddon, so it's like even if a war breaks out somewhere else, it's not like they can spare guys to leave Armageddon.
Starting point is 00:31:08 There's not a huge number of regiments that can just go out and about and go to other war zones. They also produce like a vast number of Steel Legion as well. So I think it was in the second war for Armageddon. At one point, Armageddon itself was producing more troopers for the Steel Legion than two other planets combined. Wow. So they really, they really churn them out. Like when things get really bad,
Starting point is 00:31:43 they are very capable of just bolstering their forces. I mean, I have to admit, I feel like at some point that's got a stop being the case, right? That's got to stop being quite as, quite as, quite as doable. I was going to ask, how exactly do you churn out more, like, they just have like a fuck room where they're just, like, getting down and making more people? Are we, do we have test tubes? Do we have some class in this? What? We, we have class on this, on this podcast, all right? What? What did I say? I'm just wondering, like, What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:32:22 What did you say? What? I'm just, how do you, how does they turn out more people than like, you know, any other place? Like, what, like, you know, do you have a lineup? Oh, God, indeed. Oh, God, indeed. What? You shit.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Sir, the deep space scanners are picking up another orc. Why, do we, do we need to ready the fuck rooms? Open the fuck room. Lord Commander, activate the goon cave. No, sir. We've never gone that fast before. We've gone plaid.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I found the thing. This was actually back in eighth edition Warhammer. But like, for example, if you play to the Armageddon Steel Legion, to go past the fuckroom part, the whole thing they had was your vehicles, I think reduced the arm penetration of when they were being shot by one, and they also gave you, like, I think closer rapid fire when you jumped out.
Starting point is 00:33:26 But they actually had, like, their stratagem was, if you had an infantry unit that disembarked from a transport, you get to re-roll your hit rolls of one for that unit, because that's the whole idea is run up, jump out, beat the shit out of them. Yeah, I remember that now you've, now you've, it's so good. I miss that sort of like really fluffy, really fluffy approach. I really do too. It had like such a vibe to it, like just such a level to it.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Like, I don't know, like Armageddon Steel Legion warlord traits, ex-gang leader. It is common amongst the regiments of Armageddon to recruit from the underhive gangs of the planet's towering metropolis. Those who once led gangs in urban warfare fight dirty even on the fields of open war. Add one to this warlord's attack's characteristic and add one to the wound rolls in melee because they're nasty gangers. Or, um, the deal,
Starting point is 00:34:26 I only have one other thing that I know of. Ah, here we go. Erelooms of the regiments. We have Armageddon character. The skull mask of Acheron. Possessing an almost totemic quality, the skull mask has been worn by a succession of steel agent commanders.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He who dons it puts aside's identity, but carries a fell reputation. as a killer of Zenos. Ork units, or sorry, enemy units suffer a minus one to their leadership. Ork units suffer a minus two. So, yeah, you know, it's all, it's, it's really fluffy. It's really good in that kind of stuff. And it's sad that doesn't have that same flavor.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah. It fits the lore. I always find it cool, like, because I know nothing about the tabletop. And it's always really cool when, like, they actually add in, like, these special, like, strategums and skills that are, like, directly tied into the lore that they made. And it's like, this is how they work. and they also work that way in the tabletop. I think that's neat.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it just, it all kind of makes me think of the, I was going to say, the good old days, but that's, you know, things are definitely, like, mostly quite a bit better. Things like the pinnacle of Games Workshop's codex writing for me is still like the Chaos 3.5 Codex for 40K, because it was a small book, and each of the, like, chaos legions,
Starting point is 00:35:44 as they've now been sort of turned into calling, them, they had like two to three pages of rules and fluff, but they were so well written and they were so thematic that you could get a feel for what each individual one was about just off those pages. Like, they introduced just enough that you knew exactly what each one of them was without even having a full codex to themselves. And stuff like, stuff like those rules, I don't know, I think it just adds a lot, whilst also being kind of functional at the same time.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Now, Shire has just pointed something out. They are so into killing orcs. They have an unrelated faction of orc hunters who are not part of the Steel Legion, but they live in the woods and hunt orcs, and they got so hardcore into orcs, they wear orky face paints, wear orc totems and symbols,
Starting point is 00:36:34 sometimes believe in gork and mork and can use orc weapons without them breaking apart, but that's a different topic. Oh, sh-dicking me. What? A little heretical. It's all right. It's all right. The fact that they got so good at killing orcs and believe in gork and mork and can actually use like orc chudas properly.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Oh, hell yeah. Look at that. Look at that. It's kind of crazy. Also, those old minis are, oh no. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I'm pretty sure you can still buy those now. Wait, I think those are cattachin. I think there's just Katachan's painted green. Well, yeah, their character is a painted green with a shooter. Yep. I appreciate it. You can just go, you can go to Warhammer.com and pick those up this minute if you really want to. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:37:26 That is really great. I kind of love that. That's, I mean, yeah, maybe that needs to be explored more. I mean, that's great. Oh, absolutely. Update those minis. Let me get some 2024 versions of, do they have a name, Shire? Are they just unrelated orc dudes, unrelated humans that think they're orcs?
Starting point is 00:37:48 I could have sworn I had a net. There we go. Oh, they're just Armageddon orc hunters. Fitting name. Fitting name. Look, they know what they like. They know what they like and they go hard into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:01 So, so, this is like, Shai must hate these guys because she's big orc plus, she must hate these guys. Like, this must be her, her. most hated group, like, you know. Well, not the war hunters, but like, just the Armageddon Steel Legion in general. Shai would have to care. Also, the orcs started it. You can't be mad at them.
Starting point is 00:38:26 They very much, they started it. They came in. They wanted to go. They got a go. That's just how it is. Although, I guess that's true. I guess technically, orcs must love it on Armageddon,
Starting point is 00:38:40 and they probably love fighting the steel. leading, because that's a good crumping. I'm pretty sure. When it comes to the different War for Armagedon, like, I don't know if each one of them could be a stand-on episode, but, like, there's a lot to unpack there. Like, there's a lot that goes on in each of the Wars for Armaged. I think by the time, by the time the Third War for Armaged hits, at some point, it's just become such a, like,
Starting point is 00:39:11 it's become almost like a pilgrimage destination, I think, if I remember correctly, where it's just this is a place of eternal, never-ending war. You've got humans to fight. You've got demons to fight. There's like different, there's wild new things to experience when it comes to murdering other people every single day. And orcs absolutely love it. Yeah, that's true. I guess the orcs would, unironically, just adore.
Starting point is 00:39:41 the Steele Legion and love fighting them. And just this is my favorite. This is heaven. Like you said, it's their mecca. Shai said, Gaz in the book says that he loves it and it's his picture of the perfect galaxy of unending eternal war.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I didn't remember him saying that, but yeah, like I said, I don't know why, but I, I imagine it was one of his comments in the Agasical book to send it around. But it makes sense. I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:09 the war for Armageddon also contained our, favorite Commissar, Mr. Commissar Yarek as well. May he rest in peace. May he rest in peace. Absolutely legend. I wonder if the next book will have him in it and he'll die in that book
Starting point is 00:40:24 and that's kind of like the whole point. Yeah, just give some finality and closure to it. I mean, they showed his bones in like a codex. I know, I don't like it though. I want him back. He's great. I know they showed it, but I don't like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:39 You know, you can acknowledge that something happened. and still be like, I'm not a fan. You know, I just, I just, you know, he's, he is like too old. He's too old. Yeah, I was about to say, like, in the timeline, we're hundreds of years, we're hundreds of years past the time. I mean, rejuvenation therapy for regular humans only goes so far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Maybe he's using some, you know, sneaky Zenos injections to prolong his life. They do that, right? How dare you assume that the glory of Commissar Yark would ever use? I was going to say, how dare you? Everybody's got their skeletons in their closet, and Yard just, he's, you know, on the side. He does a little, he juices a little bit, you know? Look, we've seen his skeleton, and clearly it's not having any sort of Zenos nonsense keeping him alive, right?
Starting point is 00:41:28 We know that that's, it's not on the table for him. And to be fair, if they did that to him, that would be so much worse than him somehow miraculously being alive in any other way. Like, there's just some people he can't do that too, and he's definitely up there as one that you just can't do that too. He's juicing on orc blood. Actually, he's juicing on orc blood. He's juicing on orc blood.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Lance Armstrong has nothing on this guy. Who needs the Tour de France, so you have the Tour de Armageddon? Tor to Armageddon, yeah. Is that what they used to get people? This mother's juicing on orc blood. That's what they give you as a drink on the way into the fuck room, I think. Just to get it to go out.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And it all comes back around. An orc cocktail before you re-enter the goon room. You're welcome, everyone. I'm so sorry to put this evil on you. So, Shai makes an interesting thing about the whole, like, yeah, Pepe Sylvia a bit about, like, oh, no, the orcs believe he's still alive. So he'll be alive. I think they got the wrong Pepe Silvia.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I think the actual Pepe Sylvia is that the entire Yarek thing is part of an imperial book, which is often imperial propaganda. And so having him as like some kind of martyr to stir up the troops, this line they would totally do. Yeah. That would be the actual propaganda, I think. But I also still think it's bullshit because he's like supposed to be 500 years old or whatever he is. Yeah, he's definitely getting on too much for my request. that he still be alive, like, to be reasonable. But I don't know, ever since, like, ever since I saw him on the cover of Codex Armageddon,
Starting point is 00:43:17 way back with the really insanely big power claw that he stole, it's just that that image alone is enough to just want, just want him to stick around for, really, too long of a time. But. He's so cool. I don't know. Every depiction of him is so boss. I don't know what it was about you saying that, Keryoth, about you saying like, just the really baller power claw.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And I'm just like, you know, of all the adjectives to use, I mean, you're right. But just, damn, what a guy. It is a baller power claw. He's not wrong. Yeah, but Yark would take offense to this. What would Yark call it? Yark would call it like the, he'd call it like the orc, the orkender. He'd call it like the devastation of the green skin.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I mean, yeah, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his hardcore. It is hardcore. I, I, I will say, I remember, they talk about this in, um, the kai of his cane book. I believe, uh, inquisitor, um, what's her buckets, uh, emberly veil. Um, what's her name for second. Um, I believe inquisitor hamberly veil was like, yeah, we, we've spoken to the great hero commissar, Yarek, and he's boring as shit. he's the most stuffy like annoying general type
Starting point is 00:44:43 he's just like oh the Imperium and I am a strong man fighting off the Xenos and it's like that's all he is and she was like God I can't stand this guy I don't remember that but I mean you know when all you know is
Starting point is 00:44:57 being a commissar and killing orcs probably pretty boring at parties but you're probably pretty entertaining on the battlefield field. I kind of feel like that's not all that surprising. I don't know why. I just,
Starting point is 00:45:14 he just comes, it looks stuffy, you know? He looks kind of like, he looks kind of stuffy and that, and as though he wouldn't be that fun at a party. Great in a battle. Every picture of him is so cool.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Like, he doesn't have a bad piece of art. He seems like he should be interesting always. So, Good. Even if, yes, he does sort of have a bit of a testicular face in one of the models. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 That's, uh, the old model is not great. It's a bald chinian. So what's the next thing about the Steel Legion, since we have veered ever so slightly off course here. Oh, I mean, he's, he's kind of related, kind of. Um, although there is... Orcs, orcs are on Armageddon.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Armageddon is where Steel Legion are, you know. There is an excellent picture of a, uh, of a Spell Legion commissar. What is the... That's their commissar. That's so cool. It's pretty good. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:46:17 The rebreather adds a lot in terms of making them look absolutely terrifying. You'll be unsurprised to know that Games Workshop did produce miniatures for them for them. For quite a while, I don't think they ever got around to finishing the miniature line for them. Shocking. Not that long ago. They did do some made-to-order stuff for them, so you can get a bit of a feel for how the minis look. They're not the worst. Well, I think they're not the worst because most of their faces are covered by the masks and stuff, so you can't see the...
Starting point is 00:46:54 And honestly, even looking at these old ones, just with the coats, those proportions are something weird. There's something... Yeah. I don't know if it's because, like, the coats are too short and the legs are too long or something, but something is very off about those minis. I mean, yeah, they're not quite up to the current standard, I think is probably the best way to put it. Yeah. But if I remember correctly, the weird thing with the Steel Legion line,
Starting point is 00:47:29 because they used to do loads of different, like, they did quite a few different Imperial Guard lines. They had like the Cadians. They also had Steel Legion. Mordians. Mordians. They did a fair few. Um, like they did a fair few.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But it's almost like they were kind of passion projects for certain sculptors in a way, because some of them just never got finished. So the Vostroians, I think only had like a squad. I don't even know if they had more than one heavy weapons team, the Vostroians. But the same thing was,
Starting point is 00:48:04 was kind of, it kind of happened with, the Steel Legion as well, where you kind of ended up with almost enough to have every, like, entry in the Codex, but not quite. And then Games Workshop decided to pair everything down and just got rid of all the kind of like, I guess, specialist Imperial Guard stuff. So now, if you want to build an army of Steel Legion, you kind of have to wait for them to do a made-to-order, like once every two years or whenever they're going to do the next one. Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Or, or alternatively, you buy the Death Corps of Creek Kill Team a lot and do some extreme kit bashing. There's not that many options, unfortunately. Ew. I mean, the Death Corps of Creek Kill Team does look very, very good. It does.
Starting point is 00:49:04 But it is definitely. yeah, if you've seen all the old scopes for these models, they're pretty, I mean, I can't believe the catachin are still available. It's mind-blowing. They're so bad. Those original catachin are still available, the really, really horrible-looking face ones? Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to link you up right now. Those are still a bit. I thought those were just super old ones, and surely they had been updated by now.
Starting point is 00:49:31 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no way. Oh, that is offensive to all my senses. What a time. I love how actually, actually, if you're a age you are, that's great. I genuinely cannot, but I, I, I, I, because that is, that is, that is, that is, that is the meme picture, right? That is like, whenever someone's like, oh, thin your paints, look at the catachin and it's, oh, ah, those are still available. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Right now, 22 pounds 50. If you, I don't know, have no self-respect. I don't know. Have no self-respect. Oh, they're so bad. 2250 is insanity for this. How are these still, like, how? How?
Starting point is 00:50:23 To be fair, they do have one good older sculpt. They do have one good older sculpt. I wouldn't call Harker goods, but okay. I mean, comparatively. Comparatively. So do you want to run a catachin on the tabletop? You have to use these ones?
Starting point is 00:50:42 Like there's no updated. Wow! No, that's incorrect. You 3D print or you buy a third party is what you do? Oh, okay. Because... Yeah, that's the other one. I am shocked because catachins are so popular.
Starting point is 00:50:56 The official... Yeah. So a reminder, though, a reminder. They do. They did sell a new catachin character kit just recently, two of them, in fact. And they look very, very good. I own both. Yes, those do look great.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Those are phenomenal miniatures. But yes, they have not updated the actual kit. They might when the Guard Codex comes out, because they did Death Corps last year, you know. It makes sense. I am befuddled. Can you just be fuddled? I cannot be fuddled. He can't be fuddled.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I, I, I, somebody else talk, like right now. Somebody else talk immediately. I'm now immediately upset as well because Shalai said that they took the grot tanks from the store and the, I knew they'd gone to legends. They got rid of the grot tanks out of the store. You can't buy the grot tanks anymore? Can I, okay. Can I, can I share, I, I shared this with a,
Starting point is 00:52:05 poor hammer podcast for the data slate talk. I have to share my favorite meme that I found about that. It's like, first they came for the greater narlock and I did not speak out because I was not a communist. Then they came for the heresy dreadnots and I did not speak out because I was not imperial. Then they came for the decimators and I did not speak out because I was not a heretic. Then they came for the Terax pattern drills and I did not speak out because I was not cheese lord.
Starting point is 00:52:32 then they came for me Gratz and there was no one left to speak out for the boys That's Honestly That's devastating And I just had a look And it is
Starting point is 00:52:48 It says temporarily out of stock I don't trust them Does that mean that they're going to get rid of the Killburster and Kill Blaster as well Because that's one of the best vehicles They've ever made Okay my I'm starting to have palpitations Okay
Starting point is 00:53:01 All right We need to veer this. All right. Steel Legion, huh? What about those Steel Legion? Huh? Let's kill some orcs, huh? Let's go to war, shall we?
Starting point is 00:53:12 You know what I mean? How you doing? Grot tanks to Steel Legion killing them. So there is, that's what I'm going to call the video. Actually, I'm not. That would get me in trouble, I think. So there is a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:53:28 There is a couple of like notable, notable, like, Steel Legion regiments that it's worth talking about. There's one, which is a group of Steel Legion who put down a rebellion in six hours. Quite impressive. Wow. Well, they heard that there was a rebellion going on, and they decided, not today. We're not having this. What we're actually going to do is we're just going to go straight up to the Imperial Palace on the planet.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And we're going to put everyone down and restore order. straight off the bat. Okay. Efficient. Pretty good. So it's the 16th, it's the 16th Steel Legion, led by Colonel Kleist, and he was stationed on a planet called Castle.
Starting point is 00:54:19 He got exemplary service on the campaign, so it was kind of, it's sort of like an easy posting, I guess. But the planetary governor decided to go his own way and declared a rebellion. At which point, Colonel Klyst got his lads, loaded them up into Chimeras, obviously, went straight to the planet's capital and just took control.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Restored order within six hours of a rebellion starting. So I think it's fair to say, even just taking that as an example, they don't mess around, the Steel Legion. They don't mess around. They get it done. Nice and quick. They took him right to the fuck room.
Starting point is 00:55:04 The Goon Cave. They took him right in. Open the doors. Straight to the goon cave. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. There is also a really just ridiculous story from the Third War of Armageddon. So to give a bit of context as to how big the factories on Armageddon are, there was, like, entire
Starting point is 00:55:30 battles force in the factories. So you had orcs and you had Steel Legion Troopers fighting like they would just on a standard battlefield, except
Starting point is 00:55:43 it's in a gigantic building where there are chimeras being built in front of them and like components for Lehman Rus tanks going past on conveyor belts. Oh, is that?
Starting point is 00:55:58 That would be like which Star Wars had it? I think it was the... the second one of the prequels. They're like, they're in the factory and the robots are getting pressed and... Right? Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Oh, nice. Those are... Okay, I'm on board. So, they didn't just have Lehman Russe's, Comeras, and Troopers. Also, Basilisks in the factory. Just want to remind you what the Basilics is. That is a extremely long-range artillery piece.
Starting point is 00:56:30 that's like, that's like, it can fire insane distances, and they were using those in the factory because of how big the factory is. And the 339th Steel Legion, which are nicknamed the Ironheads, they had a massive battle within this factory, and they managed to fight the length of the factory. and they used to transport themselves around chimeras that had literally just rolled up the production line. So they got into chimeras that had just been built in the place they were fighting in and did a full mechanized assault straight into the arc lines and basically pushing them out of the factory into the wastes around, like, onto Armageddon Prime.
Starting point is 00:57:23 It's got that new car smell. So you said they were using bat is the basilis the one that's like launches ICBMs? No, it's we, it is, in fact, I can just put it again. Because I was like that is, that's a hell of a, oh, okay, got you, okay. But it's still a long range alternative unit. Like, it's still an insane thing to be using in a building. Yeah, I was like, if they're using like ICBMs in a factory, what the, kind of factory is this like where where are we i'm imagining like a death strike missile launcher
Starting point is 00:58:01 just just being like fuck we got it we got to launch it let's just let's just send it send it just push the button let's go i miss when the death strike missile launcher was better i'm sad i made myself sad basilists are funny though have you seen okay okay hold on keep keep doing your thing because i'm about to go off on nominees again. And I'd like, it's a new solar auxilia kit. So like, it's worth to go off on. But we'll continue this first. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Keep going with Steel Legion. He'll Google the thing. The other one that I wanted to highlight was the 808th Steel Legion, who they have an interesting approach to things. So they are literally known for like aggressive. officers who have an interesting, like, style when it comes to leading the troops. Oh, no. Whenever you use the adjective, interesting for someone in 40K, there's a chance that it's like, oh, yeah, they have an interesting side hobby. They like to, oh, I don't know, use entrails as
Starting point is 00:59:16 necklaces and headbands and dance around with their bones and play the drums on you. Like, please, tell me about his interesting habits. Oh, well, this was just, this was more just, you know, fighting against orcs, obviously. And getting kind of trashed by them initially. The orcs just kept using the terrain, stranding transports so that the regiment couldn't get around, you know, like getting them stuck in, like, canyons and passes and the stuff, and then overwhelming the Steel Legion by being orcs up close and personal. and they ended up having a really odd fight
Starting point is 01:00:00 where there was just a bunch of chimeras with the 808th in them on patrol except they encountered a bunch of mutants and psychers led by someone in spiky power armour So in the middle of a fight against the orcs, they just randomly came across in what was supposed to be a training exercise,
Starting point is 01:00:30 basically a chaos space marine and a bunch of freaks, and ended up having a really horrific, close-range fight because someone, presumably, one of the psychers, caused a small earthquake which just made the chimeras is useless, just trapping them. And the Steel Legion had to fight not just the actual physical enemy that they were dealing with, but they also had to fight through like projections and visions. So walking through big like masses of fire and being assaulted by slime, like actual moving,
Starting point is 01:01:16 think like a like a oh what is it called slime girls I wasn't gonna go slime girls shut your ass yo slime girls
Starting point is 01:01:26 time me up time me up for the Steel Legion let's go shy kill him what I just put him in an early grave I just want to fight
Starting point is 01:01:37 the good fuck shy destroy his balls I was gonna go go to Lange him from D&D so I I don't like... Spin them around all silly, like,
Starting point is 01:01:49 she muted me. That's okay. I'm recording, so I didn't even say anything more. Just slime girls was enough. Yeah, that's worse. Effectively, it did not go well for them. They did technically win because they're still legion,
Starting point is 01:02:04 and they have the ability to survive horrendous environments. They've got the re-breeders. They've got their treated coats. They've got, you know, just an attitude that won't quit, but it was a Pyrick victory. And there were not many of them left at the end of it. All of that, just off a training exercise.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yo, in another Imperial Pyric victory, we love to see it. You love to see it. It happens a lot when we like it every side. All the time. We love the Imperial Pyric victory. It's number one. Let's go, baby. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Extreme losses that will never recover from, except we will in like three days, let's go. Typical, imperial empiric dub. Let's go. All right, what's next for the Steel Legion, Kiriof? I think pretty much, there's not like a vast amount until you go into like the war, the different wars for Armaged where you start to get really granular in different combats and stuff
Starting point is 01:03:08 and what different regiments did. In terms of just the Steel Legion as a whole, that's a fairly good overview. So I think whatever Bricky is now cooked up in the gap between It's being sad about Death Strike missiles What what? Yeah, what were you gonna show us, Bricky? Oh, oh, I was just I was just talking about like the new sole auxiliary Exiler 40K stuff because we are we're chatting they have a very like diesel punk
Starting point is 01:03:39 New thing they got going on for it which is really fun but um we talk about the bassists and stuff right and like they have a new I have a new Basilisk version in that whole group. But you remember you mentioned the Sentinel that the Steel Legion kind of had going on with it. And I just, I feel like the new Solar Exilio Sentinel is a lot more setanily for the Steel Legion. It would be a great kind of kit bash for that because it's got this, it's got this really like dishonored looking kind of game vibe to it. It's like totally different. Oh, that's sick.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It's super sick, man. also, D.K. Solar Auxilia are the Imperial Guardsman on Terra. Oh, okay. I guess that makes sense. The best of the best, you know? Okay. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:04:28 They have a very, they have a very interesting look to them. I got to be honest. It's not like what you would imagine when you'd think of like the top end, but they got that, what was it kind of Roman-ish? They're, uh, the way they love it. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:42 A little bit. It's a neat little, it's a neat little thing to look at. They've got like a void sealed suits and stuff so that they can survive in vacuum and things. They're really cool. Plus they have like their tanks just look more. I think I think yeah, like diesel punk is kind of the phrase. Like they've got like decoration on them. And also they made the Lehman Rus look better because they took bits of the armor of the side panels
Starting point is 01:05:11 so that you can see more of the tracks. So they don't look like they'd get stuck on a small. incline anymore, which is nice. It's just a real shame that they decided to release those after I've got 10 of the normal ones, but whatever. The only thing with the Sentinel, I wasn't sure about it at first, and I still think it does kind of look like a fridge on legs, but I really like it now. It does a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:36 It does not. It does. It does. I think I've slowly just kind of appreciated it more with time. because I don't know, like you can do your AT-A-T type thing, but that just looks like a little bit more hulking, I'll be honest. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm not really sure why, but it reminds me of like one of those portal robots
Starting point is 01:05:58 from like Portal 2, just like on a bigger scale. A little like B-Hoo. Yeah, like the little egg ones. Yeah, yeah, I can see. I could see it. Yeah. Yeah, that's the immediate thing I got first. I don't know. Like, I find the new, because the new kits are really interesting because like they have,
Starting point is 01:06:15 that's the old basclists you see up there but this is like the Solar Auxilia Basilisk Yeah it looks great Which feels a lot better I mean it doesn't really it can't really turn I guess so there's that but it's artillery So whatever um but like the Lehman Rust tank right like the Lehman Russ of the solar
Starting point is 01:06:30 Exilia is just very oh that was the link my man um is very much it's we talk about okay we talk about us a bit before Karioth especially but like the new space marine terminators they're like the exact same, but they just got that little tweak that makes them like just that good. And that's kind of how I feel with the new Lehman-Russ. It's got that tiny little adjustment and it looks great.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah. There's just little things they've done to it where the shape of the turret is slightly different. It's so, I feel like such a, even by the standards of like, you know, when you are, when you are like a 40K fan, or just a fan of anything, I guess. But I really feel like I enter a new realm of being a bit too into something when I start comparing like the solar auxilia Lehman Rust to the standard one because of things like the turret looking a little bit different there's just a slightly different shape to it
Starting point is 01:07:25 and it's got a bit more kind of reinforcement on the side but also the side panels where you can see the tracks more because that shows more of the suspension whereas on the normal Lehman Rus it's entirely covered up so you can't see the suspension which just makes it look like it's lower to the ground which means that the ground clearances are good but then it's better on these.
Starting point is 01:07:43 It's like loads of little, little just improvements all over it that just add up to making the whole thing just feel like that much, I don't know, just that much better than before. Like there was nothing wrong with the Lehman Rus that they've had for, you know, years now, but this is just better all because of just little things all over it, just little tiny details. Nice. Yeah, it just has, it has that.
Starting point is 01:08:12 little bit, you know? Yeah. It's been lifted. They've been lifted. And then they're also in plastic, which is, which is very nice, God. Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, I never buy Forge World stuff because it's not safe and they're going to remove it at some point.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Sorry, these players. But the whole, yeah, I mean, enjoy your call out of tanks for as long as you can because I just have a feeling that they're going to go. But these are plastic. And this is just, it's a Lehman Rust tank. You're making a Lehman Rust tank. The Lehman Rust will not leave. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It's, uh, it's some neat stuff. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I say to this conversation. Hell yeah, D.K. says to this. Hell yeah, I say to this conversation. So are we, are we calling that an episode? Are we, are we saying that this is?
Starting point is 01:09:02 What are the Mechanicus stuff do you got? I'm curious. Ooh. Did I say Mechanicus? You did. Oh, crap. Are we doing Mechanicus? No, are we, are we, are we, a hard turning?
Starting point is 01:09:12 I was looking at, I was, I was, when I was looking up the things for the solar auxiliary, I saw forces of the cult mechanicum. And I did that thing where you're reading, but you meant to say something else if you said the word. I was kidding. We've all been there. Anything, anything, anything else for, for Armageddon Steel Legion? I think, I, I think that's it. That's a, that's a good place to, that's a good place to leave it. I think there's, at least half of that was about the Steel Legion, which is, which is about on par for us. For these episodes, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:09:42 At least half of that was Steel Legion, so that's a pretty good... That's about the ratio we usually manage. It's a pretty good conversion rate? Sure, sure. So what, is it a race to the fuck room now? And we'll just see how... Yo, Steel Legion boys, let's go. Let's hit it.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I'm heading to the Goon Cave after this. I don't know about you guys. No, the Kymara's the Mobile Goon Cave. The Mobile Goon Cave. Oh, no. What have I done? This is my fault. It is.
Starting point is 01:10:10 My fault. This is all my fault. I am shy, please, have a stiff drink on me when you are putting this thing together because I am so sorry. You can't have a stiff fucking punch. Well, she can't reach through the computer and if she could, I would have, I would never leave the hospital. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm pretty sure that that power has not been manifested or we would all have black eyes. I think my windpipe would have been crushed many times by now. And yeah, I, yeah. Yet. Yet. Yes. Yes. All right. I will remember, I'll get the old hockey gear out if that ever happens because I will need the protection.
Starting point is 01:10:48 90% of gambling addicts quit before they're punched by shy.

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