Adeptus Ridiculous - BADAB WAR: BECOME UNGOVERNABLE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousThe Badab War is the name given to one of the most serious rebellions in recent Imperial history. While the conflict is named for a planet (or system of the same name), the war actually took place throughout the several sectors of Imperial space known as the Maelstrom Zone. The war saw four entire Space Marine Chapters secede and rebel against the Imperium.The Badab War is notable for several reasons; the leader of the rebellious forces, Lufgt Huron, would survive the end of the war and return to trouble Imperial space once more as the Chaos-alligned warlord known as Huron Blackheart, while the conflict itself involved a significant number of warring Space Marine Chapters as the primary participants.Support the show

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They're not good at dabbing They're bad at it Well, I think that actually be Some of the best of dabbing, you know Your Huron probably is definitely Dabbing on them haters The Huron has been dabbing on them haters Like nobody's business

He's been dabbing at a supreme rate mock speed dabbing mock speed um all right so uh we ended on the prior episode with the firehawks having their ship taken

and then being kind of pissed off about that yeah rightfully so i i suppose so the the first little bits of the how you say uh astardies on astardies war is beginning. It is happening. So, as the firehawks had there, they're very unfortunate. It's a rapturous...

Rapturous Rex? Rapturous Rex? Rapturous Rex. Wow. Red Harbinger. Wrong ship. My bad. Alliteration be damned.

It had nothing to do with alliteration. It was being small-brained. I do know a little something about that. Go on. Thank you, thank you. So it's hard. So it's this second part of the bad app war as far as, so I haven't read up to part. So there's two parts, part one and two total.

We did the first time of part one and then this will be part two. I'm assuming part two will then be a three and a four. So I'm assuming it'll be a four part. This one, this is a guess, a total guess, but I'm going to assume might be the slow and shortest of the four. It is a lot of battles. It's a lot of like... And then this Space Marine chapter

you've never heard of joined the fray. And then this Space Marine chapter you never heard of got murdered. And then this Space Marine chapter took the southern reaches and expanded upon the territory. And it was like... Yeah, like, Shai has a little image there.

All of those? All of those Space Marine chapters were a part of it. but like go through them and tell me how many of these do you actually know of? Like, not a lot. I only just learned about the Mantis Warriors in the last episode. Astral Clause, well, actually I learned about that in the last episode. Lamenters I knew about.

I've heard of the Minotors. But like the Nova Marines, the Howling Griffins, the Star Phantoms, the Fire Angels, the Exorcists. Actually, I think we talked about the Exorcists, but like. It's just... It's a lot of never heard of you before. Yeah, it is... Wow, that's a lot. Yeah, so this is...

It's a little war. It's just a little war. Yeah, it's 18 chapters. No big deal. But it is a lot of fighting. Of fighting. So this might be a little bit... What's the word I'm looking for?

Disjointed... This one. Okay. But anyway. So the firehawks pretty upset about their stuff being taken, right? Pretty damn upset. Huron, prepping for the war, all kinds of big stuff going on like that. So in order to, the firehawks right now, like, you know, space marines are actually, are vengeful people.

They're pissed off about this. No, they're vent, no way. And well, so the firehawk ship wasn't just taken. It was, like, destroyed, wasn't it? And they're, like, blaming it on pirates, right? It was taken. Oh, okay. So pissed off about this.

They're like, all right, you know what? You want to strike us like that. We're to strike you back. So it starts off with going at a feudal agro world, so agricultural world, specifically to distract the forces of the bad ab sector and using the hoity tooty carthens for it, is trying to pull forces away and bring the mantis. warriors to battle. So they decided like,

okay, let's attack a bunch. Shai, yeah, shy. Sorry, shy, and I quote posted, they nuked a farm. Wow, that's, that's a little much, but okay. I was, yeah, that's the,

that's the quick version. They basically, they, they nuked a farm. They blew up a bunch of agricultural worlds in order to goad the mantis warriors. Unfortunately, the mantis warriors being pretty good at their job of being somewhat sneaky and smart,

basically anticipated exactly this and planned for this attack, popped out and started to beat their ass again. Oh, so they knew preemptively that a farm was going to get nukes, so they were just lying in wait, just waiting for them to do it and then jumped them? They were kind of like, yeah, I think I know what you're going to do. You're going to take retribution on all of our food because that food is important and then they beat their ass. Yeah, the supply lines, sure, sure. That would be a good thing to defend first and foremost, sure.

So they were, the fire hawks were then from this retaliation pretty badly wounded and actually stuck behind enemy lines and forced to retreat. And all the while during this, all the tides, the imperial ties that all these worlds were producing, were going to Huron. And so at this point, Huron was like, getting even stronger.

Yeah. Eventually, you might recognize this name. You remember the Marines errant? I do remember the name. What book were they from? The Night Lord's books, right? Yeah, with the Red Corsairs and all that stuff. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

So the Marines errant were called for for assistance by the fire hawks, but there was a little bit of a difficulty in thinking and determination. That is a really cool looking marine errands. I never saw them looking that cool. Wow, that is slick. Yeah, they got their asses kicked in the Nightlord's books. Yeah, they sure.

Didn't they get like completely wiped out? I think they destroyed their fortress monastery. Yeah. Pretty damn close, yeah. Yeah. They're so cool. What the hell? That's a good look, yeah.

God damn. Anyway, the Marines' errands arrived to back up the fire hawks along with all the other loyalist forces. And then there's a bit of an issue with the Marines errant where they're like, okay, fire hawks are like, kill, kill, kill, kill heron. He's a fucking dickhead. He pissed on my wife. They essentially did, you know. Where on the other hand, the Marines errant were instead like, let's, how about we, like, escort the tie of the ships

and stop them because Huron keeps on raiding them and stealing all the stuff. So like maybe we should work on these lines, but in the background, the fire hawks are like kill, kill, kill, kill. They didn't want any strategy. They didn't want to, they just wanted to just head first,

run in and kill everything that they possibly could. They didn't want strategy. They just wanted revenge, brutal and bloody. So at this point, Carthens, the hoity-toity carthens, their tithe is overdue. And the taxman is mad. Even at the situation they're in, even with Huron raiding all their stuff, their tithes are overdue.

Oh, God. And so, TAC, you know, the IRS is pissed off. So weird. In a last-ditch effort, they decided to mount a secret little convoy, this big old secret convoy to try to get supplies out under the help of the Marines. Marines errant. Help to get all their stuff out. Keep the eyes of terror not upset with them.

The whole deal. Led by Huron himself, he planned for this, raided this convoy and meticulously took apart piece by piece. Every escort ship, every Marine errant escort craft with not a single ship loss on their side. And basically, the hoity toady carthens involvement in the, the war ended there. They were done completely.

Yeah, that's a, that's, that's, that's a bit of a, that's a bit of an oof. That's a bit of an oomfy. That's, that's, oof. So, after this, uh, the mantis warriors then encircled the Marines errant, killed off their command staff. And they were also forced to retreat from the active war.

Uh, at this point, a brand new chapter was also added to the Astral Clause called the Executioners. Hey. Who would have guessed they joined the side of chaos? I mean, the renegades. The renegades. Chaos.

There's no chaos here. There's no chaos. Also, it sounds like, man, the Marines' Aaron is just like Lamenters like 2.0. Well, Lamenter's light. Nothing good ever happens to them, does it? They got their asses kicked and they got their asses kicked again in a future book. So, yeah. Yeah, the only thing I've heard about the.

Marines Aaron is they just get whooped Always I mean The Donald's whooped as bad as the lamentors I think No No well at least the lamentors of won stuff Have the Marines Aaron won anything? I'm sure they're Marines they always

Win something that's true they are space Marines they must have done something anyway that's not the point That is not the point point being At this point with the Carthens out of the war The Firehawks not really getting what they want Marines errant knocked out of the war Basically the entire Maelstrom zone Belonged to Hiram he controlled the whole thing

This guy is building his own old Tramar With Blackjack and Hookers Hey Hey no no you know hey You gotta do what you gotta do to survive the grim dark of 40K I you know blackjack and hookers is a perfectly fine way To survive 40K As long as you pay your taxes

As long as you pay those tithes you know It could be worse So at this point finally, the high lords of Tara now really need to act. Their tithes are all gone. They're pretty pissed off and like, okay. Huron, Mr. Tire and a bad dad, Luft Hiram, this is your declaration.

We ask for your official surrender. Wow. And all ceasefires. Uh-huh. I'm sure that, I'm sure he immediately gave in to reason. and was just like, you're right, I'll ceasefire. Oh, sure, I'll give you everything that you want. Yeah, I'm sure that's how this ends, right?

Short episode, we're done. Yeah, that's true. All right, shall I roll it? The goddamn, yeah, obviously he told them in legal, in legal words, he says that it would leave our brave worlds and emperor given charges naked before the enemy. So in legal terms, it was piss off. In layman's terms, sure.

So if Huron had been giving tithes to the Imperium this whole time, they probably wouldn't have cared that he was like striking down the firehawks and the Marines errant as long as he was giving tiths? No, no, you can't have Astoris on a story's violence. The firehawks were sent there because he wasn't giving tides. Oh, that's true. That's true. That's the whole point of the firehawks getting dunked. on us because he was being a just a wee bit, Grady.

A wee bit. Well, greedy is you know, I mean, it all depends. You know, you got to remember at this point, he is still full loyalists. He is still, Emperor, Emperor's lights, the whole thing. Praise the Emperor, yep, yep. So after he told him to

piss off, next came the detainment of Huron. It was, all right, now it's time to arrest him. Good luck. Yeah. And that kind is where the real war began. The bad ab war has, like, truly become now where it's like, okay, secessionists and the Imperium of Man. This is like, this is a formal declaration of war.

So just because we know what, we know he ends up in a future book, it's like, how the, does he survive this? Like, if Tara is like, all right, pal, it's time for you to go. and they're like, all right, we're going to start a war with you. It's like, dang, how did this? How do you survive this? The general issue that comes to a lot of this stuff is that normally whenever you, you think to yourself, okay, if the entire brunt of the Imperium of Man decided to go after Huron, yeah, they would trounce his empire. But the entire amount of the Imperium of Man are currently engaged in wars.

in like a hundred thousand sectors. That's what I was about to say. Like you can't, obviously, you can't be like, hey, everyone that's holding off the tyranids, well, come back, leave the tyrannids. Let them do whatever they want to do. You're dealing with the orcs, forget it. We got to deal with Huron. Like, you can't just, because then, you know, Tara is undefended and all of the xenos are everywhere.

And so, yeah, you can't send the full force of holy terra. at Huron. I was going to say, it's like, I was going to say, this is a bad metaphor. It's like fist fighting a child with your hands behind your back. It's like, all right,

how many chess bumps and head butts do I have at my disposal because my hands are tied? Yeah, fist fighting with your hands tied behind your back. Who agrees to that? No, no, hold on. Fist fighting a child

with your hands behind your back. Like, yeah, if you were at full strength, that child is gone. But, you know, you don't have full strength. That's true. That's true.

Anyway, so with the official bad ab war underway, the first thing that happened was the firehawks decided to fire bomb a planet for the giggles. That is literally what I have in my script. Fire hawks plasma bomb to planet the mantis warriors

owned for the giggles. Just because they're petty and they're like, well, you're not going to, to get out of this with no casualties. So ha ha ha, ha, fire bomb. Is that just to be petty? But before they left

to rejoin the Marines and the contingent to begin the war council, they went to one of the Mantis Warriors worlds that they really kind of liked, just like a personal effect of theirs. And it was like barely defended. And they just

blasted through all the defenses and then plasma bombed it wiping out 90% of the population and then just left. There was no strategic use for it. It was just to say, fuck you. Wow. That is the most extreme level of petty I have ever heard. They basically genocided and exterminatist a planet.

They just to get one up on them. They first nuked a farm. And then they, and then they nuked a, like, I don't know, like a civilian high. city or something. It's just... Wow. They just did it for the lulls. Yeah, and like Shai said, these are the good guys, the loyalists that were,

you know, we're supposed to feel for the firehawks here, you know? I think Shai might be a Huron apologist. Yeah, Astro-Astro-Claus Apologist. Ah, yes. So, okay, so Shy has the perfect quote of a

Fuck IRS. Well, I mean, Here on Blackheart, tax evasion. Mm-hmm. Yep. Hey. Become ungovernable. Oh, shit.

Okay. Well, now I definitely need to get my become ungovernable meme. Yeah, you do. All right. What meme is that? Oh, it's my meme. Oh. See, the problem is that this is going to take me a while to find it.

Oh, man. You need to, you need to. to order up your meme folder. Become ungovernable. I love that actually. Big duck. That is a big ass duck. That is an ungovernable duck.

So, anywho, Firehawks bum this planet and now comes the war council. All of the space marine chapters are coming in. The mantis warriors, and then the main one here, though specifically is the red scorpion. The Red Scorpions are the yin to the yang of the Astral Clause in this war.

They are the main fighting force of the Imperium section, along with the Lamenters and a few other groups. Oh, lamenters. Right, right. The Red Scorpions also have a, they're the ethnic cleansing group, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, that's them? Yeah. The genetic purity group. All right.

Yeah, it's not great. The Red Scorpions are kind of cool. Like, they do some cool stuff in this war, but they're, you know, just a little, a little suss. So we're rooting for the Astral Clause is what you're saying here. Yo, Hero. Okay, so, okay, genuinely, genuinely, how, like, what did, in the beginning, what did Huron do wrong? I mean, this whole time, Huron hasn't really done all that much wrong. Like, aside from, like, trying to stand up to, like, corrupt planetary governors and

administratum that are just being a little smooth-brained, he really hasn't, like, he, the whole reason this area is even, like, profitable and worth anything is because of him, right? so sort of nothing uh all right uh would you like would you like to read that yeah well pack a lunch

an astro clause successor chapter known as the tiger clause that was considered a dead chapter when their striker cruiser had reappeared after being stuck in the warp for around a thousand years seeing as they seeing as they were the last of their chapter

the tiger claw sent an envoy to Terra to ask for the release of their chapter's gene seed to repopulate the Legion, the envoy got disappeared by accident, and the case was dismissed by Terra. Figuring that High Lords wanted them permanently gone just because dealing with them was an annoyance, the Astro Claus would hide the remaining Tiger Clause amongst their ranks, giving them new names to save them from being wiped out. After that, Huron would stop paying tithes. Yeah, there is a portion of this book called Huron's Sins Uncovered, which was basically the fact that one of the capture astral claws was a Tiger Clause chapter. And after large amounts of torture and interrogation methods found out that he had swelled the Astral Clause size into something significantly larger, around 3,500 space marines, which if you remember a chapter can.

not pass a thousand. Yeah. Yes. So he was intending to create basically the legions of old. Ooh. That's some heresy. That is some big, big heresy. And yes, space marine tithe is gene scene.

So he certainly was building up his own legion, practically of old in the Maelstrom and making his own ultramar, which is not a, a, is certainly a heresy thing. It's actually when they finally fully considered him, what is it called? Excommunicado. Yeah, Tritoris. Mm-hmm.

So, but yeah, but also, yeah, he did also want to make sure that the tiger claws did not get wiped out. So, you know, no good deed, as they say. Yeah, no good deed goes unpunished. Like, even that. like, oh no, he didn't want the tiger Clause to get wiped out because they got, you know, it sounds like

they were going to get wiped out just for being like, hey, we could use some more gene seed to repulsor our ranks, and then the Imperium's like, yeah, you could use that, could you? Oh, damn, you're dead. The good old red corsairs, which become the, which, you know, are the Astro Claus,

the chaos version is certainly, their war cry truly is, fuck taxes. In fact, in fact, let's talk about this lovely story that shows us why Huron Sucidim. The castigation of Cedon Ultra. Elsewhere outside the borders of the Maelstrom Zone, the scrutiny of the High Lords of Terror, also fell on the Cathargo sector, the Carthens. Legatine, investigations carried out at Sedon Ultra.

Capital of the Carthago sector quickly found Imperial Commander and Carthens sector governor the Satreptenant Koeneg, culpable for provoking the war, and she and the heads of her noble house were executed by the Ordo Hereticus for licentious ambition and wanton misrule unbecoming a servant of the emperor. The findings of the inquest into the actions of the Carthans were, in brief, that she and her ruling clique had overstepped their authority on numerous counts in the events leading up to the start of the Bad Ab war. Now, she and those that followed her were put to death, and the Carthens' were, sorry, now she and those that followed her were put to death. The Carthens were to pay for their transgressions with the entire 14 billion strong population

of Ceynon Ultra committed to indentured servitude for six generations in payment of outstanding debt. Full-scale administratum rectification audits and Adeptus R.B.'s morale enforcement programs soon began moving outwards towards the Cathargo sector as tied costs and reparations to the Debtus Terra were extracted forcibly from the Carthin Worlds, a process that is still ongoing to this day. Did I hear that right that the punishment for the planet was six generations of slavery? A punishment is still ongoing to this day. Holy shit.

That's crazy. They literally were like, yeah, these noble assholes did push here on too far, but the war started. So, all right, you're all in servitude now. Let's, you know, fuck it, we ball. Oh, wow. So, okay, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's wild. That, well, it's, it's 40K, so is it really that wild? No, but damn.

But damn. So. Damn. And, you know, it gets worse. So. Of course it does. The red scorpions were ran, by their chapter master,

Lord Commander Ortis. Pretty, pretty long-term commander, or this chapter master. Pretty long-term chapter master we got here. Like a pretty tenured guy. Really strong, you know, just generally a very steadfast, stone cold,

classic space marine type. Okay. Sounds like Clint Eastwood, but all right. Yeah, I mean, why not? they gather for war for the most part everything kind of goes how it would seem you have a lot of the loyalist pushing back that's actually not the chapter master that's the new chapter master but we'll talk about that later

Jesus shot come on get it together well you can you can you can you can read the top right says his name and I'm like oh oh well we might as well just skip to that part then so the betrayal at grief The place is called grief? The betrayal at grief.

So the war reached a bit of an impasse. There was a standoff between the two of them, the secessionist and the loyalists. And so there was a proposal to broker this kind of standoff. So Hiram personally sent emissaries to the loyalists offering a temporary ceasefire, an honorable parley. with the loyalist commander, Ortis, to avoid further bloodshed between these who should be loyal brothers. Oh, boy.

Despite the inquisitor that was in charge of this as objections, Ortis agreed to the meeting, trusting Huron's word as a fellow chapter master to keep the truce. Oh, I'm guessing this doesn't go well. So, they made face-to-face contact between himself, the Magister Militam and the tyrant of Badat and an abandoned way station in orbit around a gas giant in the grief system.

What happened there is a little bit unsure. Oh, okay. As there's only one side with witnesses, right? So far, the station itself once a naval supply depot was built into an asteroid mass and then abandoned some centuries before. so a solar flare. Basically, the atmosphere was dead.

Nothing there. The two of them would arrive in a single unescorted strike cruiser and land on the asteroid via Thunderhawk with the strike cruisers then pulling away outside of weapons range and the two would discuss. All of that did happen.

Yeah. That happened. So far, it's kosher. It's kosher. I don't doubt that. that happened. It's just I know that they get a new chaptermaster. So, Huron acted and spoke as if Ortis and those that stood,

or sorry, he acted and spoke as if it was Ortis and those that stood with him, as opposed to Huron and secessionist, contravened imperial law. The idea that, you know, the party and the hero, Iran's mantis warriors were, you know, like, hey, you attack the firehawks, like the firehawks attacking us, etc. Iran was in an imperious mood and commenced a ranting diatribe against his enemies and their perceived enormities and insults. Going so far should just suggest that Ortis himself should bow down before him under the tyrant's banner against those who would turn the Astardis into, quote, no more than lick-spittal slaves to their own petty greed. I love it.

At this point, loyalist communications to the strike cruiser were then cut off. Oh, all right. Yeah, I wonder what happened. Well, it's not quite what you'd assume. At this point, three separate light strike cruisers arrived in the system hidden somewhere else. and concealed positions and fired upon everybody

Oh Fired upon Indiscriminately on Huron On the Red Scorpions Just on on everybody Just absolutely raked the place With weapons fire Oh

The Red Scorpion chapter master Lord Commander Ortis was in fact killed No And several Of Huron's party were also include, including the chapter master

of the mantis warriors. Was also killed. So heavy casualties on both sides, actually. Exactly. And eventually there was a three-way battle between all of the parties present, this random group as well as

the loyalists and secessionists, but badly damaged the Astral Clause were able to escape and make their way before the station explode him. It was shown that the three people that had attacked them were raiding parties consisting of

heretics, mutants, and other renegades. So it's assumed that the raiding party were aspects of chaos that really didn't want the bad av war to end.

Oh, okay. Because then they'd stop feeding chaos, and they've, that's true, I suppose, with this starties on a starty's war oh chaos is eating good it's an all you can eat buffet and ooh ooh eating good in the neighborhood

so yeah I guess that makes sense that they would want to just come in blow everything to hell and just keep hostilities at their highest wouldn't they they they would and you know there's there could in it could be like chaos sorcery like maybe a zinchean disciple described the future and was like ooh here on black heart will fall

to chaos and we'll be able to he'll help out the dark gods so let guy keep the war going Oh that's that's there's plenty of far seeing future stuff in 40K and chances are if chaos was like Ooh

Huron's gonna be on our side shit let's go and then just yeah She shit So yeah so the mantis warriors lost their chapter master's

so they're really pissed off the Red Scorpions lost there, so they're really pissed off. And a Carib Couln, the picture above, was appointed as the brand new chapter master of the Red Scorpions. He will then be the main focal point for the loyalists. He is the main chapter master, the main guy, the Yin to the Yang of Hiram. From here, war obviously was in full, full, like, completely full stop. At this point, the war is just unstoppable. There's not going to be a treaty.

There's not going to be a ceasefire. That failed. It's all out war until one side gives up or is destroyed. So with that, it starts with the slow advancement of the loyalist forces. The Nova Marines, Howling Griffin's, Sons of Medusa chapters all arrive to assist. tons of new loyalist reinforcements. They start reigning and making their own bases. Vengeance Station was a fancy base they eventually made as their main forward operating base for the area.

That vengeance, of course, for the death of their chaptermaster. Made that in a year. And then there's that part where the lamenters get their asses kicked really hard. and their ship, the inflexible, had to drop out of the warp and then arrives with no survivors on board in the warp. Yeah, that sounds about on par for the poor lamenters.

There was the classic lamenters thing. But this is the part I mentioned earlier. Everything from here on is like, oh, with the arrival of new reinforcements to replace and help the Marines errand, they assisted with the increasingly embittered fire, Hawks and the newly appointed Lord Commander Karab-Kullin to fight

at Hollow's point to protect the Loyalist factories under construction. There were the strike cruisers of the That's like 90% of what happens after this. Oh, yeah. The battle bard, sword of ordain, was a decisive factor with the

firepower of the rapturous wrecks to defeat the half-finished basin. It's like, okay, it's a lot of that. It's a lot of just battle crap. Yeah, battling, bolstering forces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of that going on.

But here are the hallmarks. Here are the important parts. Huron is starting to get pushed a bit. There's a lot of new chapters arriving. He's got a pretty sizable force. And, you know, Astral Clause account for three and a half chapters at this point. Just because of their overall size. But they're still raiding.

They're still collecting a lot of their tithes. But with each new world, each new area taken by the Loyalists, that also is a tithe being removed. Ooh, yeah, that's not good. So unlike a lot of loyalist things, the tithes are not going towards the space marines. They're going to terror and the like. So for this one, you know, it's not just losing troops.

It's also losing resources. Yeah. Unlike where, like, a lot of battles will be, your resources are all interior and the troops are the exterior, and you know, you've got to push through the troops first. So a lot of that. And then either sensing great riches or, you know, scrying or whatever. We got a lot of Zenos and chaos boys coming in.

The orc pirate clan known as the Gore Chompas. Because, you know, orcs. Classic orc name, sure. They arrived to start raiding stuff in the Maelstrom zone. There was a tainted demon planet of Magog, Magog, M-A-G-O-G. they were also spewing out problems so here I was like ah crap someone's shitting in my sink

I need to plug that up or turn on this disposal I don't know you know stop the shitting yeah demons just showed up they were just kind of like oh yeah we're there's a demon world over here we're gonna kill everything oh don't forget where they are

that's true they're in the maelstrom where there's like that whole like upper area is a bunch of like dead worlds orc planets and just chaotic nonsense. Yeah, it's the maelstrom zone. But the biggest thing, the biggest thing to note here would be the arrival of a new chapter for the loyalists. And these are the minotars.

You've heard about the minotars before. Actually, I think I was absent for that episode. Didn't you do that with Karioth? And I wasn't actually there? I think we may have mentioned them, like, before in general. Yeah, I've heard of them, but I don't know. like their history or nothing. There is a particular picture

of their chapter master, which is this one, it's quite famous. The guy looks like an absolute baller. Whoa. Wow, that armor is something else. Can you guess where the minotars

get their cultural heraldry from? No. It couldn't be like a Roman warrior thing, could it? I would be shocked. It couldn't possibly be. Is that Roman or is that or is that Greece? Which ones are Spartans? Spartons are Greece, aren't they?

Oh yeah, Spartans are Greek. Okay. I actually do get them mixed up and I know there's a lot of, there's a lot of history buffs. I'm going to be furious at me for mixing those up, but I always mix them up. Yeah, me too. There's just a part of my brain that's like Roman, Greece, Spartan, they're the same. And it's like, no, nope, nope, nope, don't do that. Don't you need to stop right there But no we talked about the Minutars in the Lamenters episode

And let me tell you soon why The Minutars are like What would you akin them to shy in the chaos Which I kind of They have like an iron warriors mentality I feel like Loyal World Eaters Ooh maybe loyalist world eaters But I think they're less mad and more

like, like, less like, like murder maim kill and more like stomp you into the dirt um, like just total annihilation, you know? Not like, that does sound like world eaters. Yeah, but like world eaters are like,

I'm going to tear your head from your spine and like, and like bathe in the blood. I feel like minotars are more like just, I'm like, pound them into the dirt methodically. Well, shy says she guesses iron warriors then, yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's a little bit of both, I suppose.

They, the Minutars are brutal. I'd probably say brutal is their best word. It's just brutal. So a lot of Minotaur fans? Because that seems like a bit, that seems like that'd be a very popular faction in 40K, just brutal space marines that just want to grind you into the dust until there's nothing left. They are like wholesale murder type people where like no assets remaining.

So they literally arrived to the same. system in the south by the pale stars with lots of strategic deposits and assets. And then sent a one single envoy to the war council, this one dude who just sits there and says nothing to have a person at the council just to sit there. While the chapter master, Astero, as name is Asturian, Asturian Malok is that dude you saw on the top basically went out to just curb-stomp every single secessionist planet down in the Pale Star region. Wow.

They also got backup with the Carcarodons chapter as well, which you do know. Oh, boy, that's, that's a savage combination. Minotars and Carcarodons, that'd be a brutal fighting force. Oh, my God. So they fought a lot of the Executioners chapter, which apparently, they found to be really enjoyable in like a blood sport method because the executioners

are also apparently that way. But from the name I would gather, yeah, yeah, sure. But thanks to the Minotaur's effects alone, the secessionist forces were pushed out of most of the pale stars losing a massive amount of their war deposits and ties.

And resulted, thanks to the minotars alone, the Pale Stars region, the entire region lost 20% of its human population. Just gone. 20% of the entire region. It's like multiple star systems. Just 20% of the human population is dead because they ground them into the dirt. Okay.

That's a lot. That is large-scale destruction. That's okay. All right. Minotars are savages. Got it. Got it. Understood.

Heard. During this time frame, the lovely lamenters were out with their fleet-based chapter and their big old ships getting resources from one of these planets. The minotars sensing a quick sport pounced on them immediately and proceeded again to beat them into the dirt. In fairness, they actually, it was a pretty hard-fought ship battle, but they then boarded all of their, you know, like various ships, incarcerated the remaining lamentors and completely took them out of the war. This is when the lamentors got fully beat up, and then 300 of them were taken prisoner

and brought to terror for, you know, court cases. Sheesh. Well, that's, that's, man. It must... Are there lamenters fans that, like, just aren't in ultra-depresso mode? Like, because it must suck. If you are genuinely a lamenters fan, it must suck to read the lore. I feel like a lamenters...

Well, if you are a lamentor's fan, it's because you like to have a little bit of a personal, I don't know, like a masochistic streak. That's fair. Yeah. You like your fictional characters to have a wee bit of suffering. A wee bit. It's just a little suffering, yeah.

Lemiters are completely out of the war. Minutars just going place by place and just curb stomping everything they can see. But at this point here comes to where Huron is now fighting a war on three fronts. The Minotaur is in there and the Carcarodons are pushing up his south. He's got the vengeance station stuff pushing up the west. And then he's also got people coming from the north. So he's got problems. Yeah, big problems.

And it sounds like the minotaurs really kind of turn the tide for the loyalists. Like, things are not looking great for the secession, specifically because Carcadons and minotars are just going ham. They were particularly, like, a big problem already. But the Red Scorpions and their vengeance station were also really pushing in. Like, they were taking names, but the Minotaur started to take names. Yeah, they are just pushing. I'd say one of the biggest turning points for the loyalists, though, was called the Second Battle of Sagan.

This was a huge fight with fire angels, red scorpions, exorcists, salamanders, raptors, Nova Marines, huge amounts of them against the secessionists. Secessionists. It's a really hard word to say. It is. It is. Secessionists. Say it ten times fast, right? The Astral Clause ended up having to use viral weapons. which killed a lot of the world's population

in a hope to because this is a really big vital system, the Sagan system. To kind of do one of those things were either like, okay, well, if you can't have it or if we can't have it, then neither can you as they back up and virus bomb their area.

But they did end up losing this system. And the reason it was a huge vital system is because it was the stable warp pathways across the various regions. Oh, boy. So now Huron's place is cut into two spots. The Endymion cluster in the north and the badab sector itself in the south.

And so now getting between the two of them is really hard or just extremely dangerous. Ooh, yeah, that's rough. That's a rough spot to lose. So now that Huron has this massive issue between getting cut up between the two spots, the Minotars are pushing up the south, red scorpions are really starting to move forward and take names. Guess what, orc-was started erupting because it's funny, I guess. Oh, man, it's, things are not going well for Huron. This is, this is going from bad to worse. Huron's having a bad time. A bad dab time.

God damn it Anyway, go on I don't want to But I want you to finish the story It's a bad damn time It's a bad damn time man Come on It's right there

All right well luckily there's only really one final thing For this episode One final major turning point going on here Which was the Angstrom incident after this it's kind of like see I'm guessing I'm guessing this I don't know if Huron turns to chaos

during the bad ab war I don't really know how it goes but this episode's going to end with Huron on the really big back foot and I'm wondering and I'm like I'm hoping I can springboard it into the third episode where it's like guess what

hereon is getting reinforced by the black Legion and they're going to turn him into chaos and all kinds of shit. I mean, I think that's a fair bet because like his back is so hard against the wall right now and his forces are getting pushed so hard. It's like where else is he going to get reinforcements from? And it's like we've read the night lord books. We know he goes chaos.

We know he survives. We know the red corsairs are pretty well equipped. So it's like, hey, how does he get all that? If chaos sees the perfect opportunity to come in and whisper in his ear and be like, like, hey, we can help you with all this. I think that's a fair assumption. Well, the Ankstrom incident was one of the final bits. Basically, there was the world of Engstrom.

It was a sovereign, independent, Mechanicus Domain. They had so far remained completely neutral in all of the fight wars going on. They believed that the Megos of Engstrom said that the conflict was no more than an internal dispute between competing imperial factions in which they had no cause to interfere, and made their intentions clear that they will defend their own territory against any interlopers. So instead of... Yeah, I mean, the mechanic is probably like this, is unimportant to us. We will continue to make guns.

Word for word, yeah. So instead of taking sides, Engstrom continues its operations as normal. And they end up getting a long-standing agreement to render, sorry, they had a long-standing agreement to render up a bounty of advanced weapons and refined ores to be collected by the Imperium's representatives in a three-yearly cycle at the edge of the system. Specifically, the Magos did not care which of the Imperium servants retrieved the bounty, only that the arrangement was carried out to the letter.

So whether the Imperium servants, as in the secessionists, or the Imperium took the bounty, they didn't really give a shit. Oh, right. That's, ooh. Okay. So the secessionist could just grab it. And it's like, well, yeah, sure. You're in for the emperor. Yep.

Okay. Bye-bye. For the past, like, 100-something years, they have been grabbing it. Oh. Because don't forget, the badass skish almost like 150 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I thought they were still giving it to the loyal loyalists and not the secession.

Okay, gotcha. So, with this time, though, uniquely the Red Scorpions and Salamanders made a special plan to stop them from claiming this bounty. They went to a horribly volcanic world, which, of course, the salamanders are well equipped for. Yeah. And infiltrate a strike force onto the surface of Angstrom 8 to lie undetect him when they went to receiving. the bounty, the secessionist. There was a major ambush sabotaging the Starport Bayes and attacking

the vessels. It was a brief fight. However, the Engstrom Mechanicus were very mad about all of these hostilities and considered it to be an assault upon their domain and sent out massive

attack columns of Tech Guard and Praetorian battle servitors to make landfall, along with all of their warships, and quite quickly drove out both loyalists and secessionists away from their system. Yeah. I would imagine, like, making the admec mad not a great idea. Very, very poor choice.

That said, this was eventually known as the Anxstrom incident, but actually was a massive win for the loyalists, because afterwards, the Terran Leggitz intervened to broker a piece and offer restitutions. Okay, okay. Therefore, now, because of them offering these things, the bounty of advanced weapons and ores is now going to the loyalist factions.

Oh, man. Things are, Huron is so screwed. Huron's having a bit of a bad time. It somehow got worse for him. It got a lot worse for him. Hoof. So, with the Engstrom incident,

in it well underway. And the loyalists starting to really push out farther into the Maelstrom zone, they have, so yeah, of the two Secessionist controlled zones, that is, there's the Edemian cluster and the Badab cluster,

right, the Bad Ab sector. Obviously, the Indymian one is the far less defended one, because the badab one has like a ring of metal and stuff. So, with that, the surviving Mantis Warriors in the and Demi and Cluster were reduced to basically a guerrilla resistance with a suppression campaign

from the loyalists. Systems were starting to be taken up and taken out from all of the fire angels, sons of Medusa, and the like. And then the orcs arrived, and a bunch of killed cruisers came in for suicidal bombings to add to it. Oh, man. Yeah, he has to go. Like, this has to be where he turns to.

It just has to be. There's no other way he could possibly fight this all off. There's just no way. So as you see here in this lovely little map we've got here, the top left is the Sagan area, which I mentioned was the second battle of Sagan, which took that major cluster area over there. Yep.

Then, of course, you already had the Camarron Drift, which I believe is where the Vengeance Station takes place, I think. Hail Stars, bottom right, Minotars, fun. Caracarodons, yeah. Ben it does Caradon's zone. And then now the final bits of the endymion cluster with the mantis warriors now being stomped into the dust. So now...

From all sides. It's... He's getting it from everywhere. To think... To think that at the start of this episode, he controlled all five of these. That's kind of crazy, actually, that he controlled all of it. And just slowly but surely, all of it's gone. And it is all now collapsing.

on him is crazy. All the sectors. Now granted, the bad ab sector is the most powerful and defended one by a long shot. Oh yeah, it's the ring of steel, ring of iron, whatever.

Yeah, his little like orbital battle stations and it's still going to be tough to crack but you have four sectors. I wonder I wonder why he'd be losing says shy with the

Hey, hey, you know what? In fairness, the Astro Clause should be like three. Even still. So on the strength side, there's the Astro Claus Lamenters, Executioners, Mantis Warrior, Tyrant, Slagent,

and the Battlefleet Mailstrum. On the other side, it's the Firehawks, Marines, Arrant, Red Scorpion, raptors, salamanders, fire angels, Nova Marines, howling Griffin, sons and Medusa, Exorcist, Minotor. Star Phantoms, Carcadon's, Battlefleet,

Carthago, Battlefleet Solar Reserves, Inquisitional Stormtroopers, and the Ordo Hereticus. And the Mantis Warriors currently are basically out of the war. Lamenters are out of the war. Out of the war. Yep. So really, it's just the Astral Clause, the Executioners, the Tyrants Legion,

and the Battlefleet Mailstrom. And the Tyrus Legion is just the Imperial Guard group that is under him. Ooh. Right, right. So, yeah, it's a little lopsided at this point. Gonna need something to, ooh, Tirens Legion logo. Sick, though.

Ooh. Ooh, ooh. Okay, that is really sick. Yeah, inject that right into my veins. That's so cool. That might be my favorite logo ever. The Tyrant's chess pieces. Who.

What a name. Defenders a bad ad. So like I said This one was a little A little bit Scatterbrained a little bit here and there But what's most important to know is this The minotars are assholes

And And basically Oh actually perfect Shia is a thing Go ahead All right Here's a fun story about good guys minotaurs Since I don't know where else to put this

Once two loyalist space marine chapters gotten to fight with each other over some minor honor issues and high lords wanted to calm them down so they sent minotars minotars murdered half of one chapter who then fled the other chapter who was a noble ultramarine successor surrendered minotaur said lul lamau encircled them murdered 90% of them stole their ship and all their stuff and laughed all the way to the bank. After that, all ultramarines and ultramarine successors refused to ever cooperate with them and they got banned from Disneyland. I mean, Ultramar. Bro!

Remember, all of this started because, not even because Huron didn't want to pay taxes. He was just asking for like a, like an extent. He was like, man, we need to take the maelstrom zone and I don't have the stuff. I'm going to keep this for now and then like, you know, we'll handle this the rest of this later. Yeah, because it's such, and it is such an important region and it was a profitable region and it's like, you know, come on, man. Send him some stuff. Send him the reinforcements. Let him do his thing. It's worth it. Remember. But no. Administrator out of man. This entire thing was because of taxes.

Man, I hate taxes. Man, I hate taxes.