Adeptus Ridiculous - BADAB WAR FINALE: THE ONLY REWARD FOR LOYALTY IS BETRAYAL | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousThe Badab War is the name given to one ...of the most serious rebellions in recent Imperial history. While the conflict is named for a planet (or system of the same name), the war actually took place throughout the several sectors of Imperial space known as the Maelstrom Zone. The war saw four entire Space Marine Chapters secede and rebel against the Imperium.The Badab War is notable for several reasons; the leader of the rebellious forces, Lufgt Huron, would survive the end of the war and return to trouble Imperial space once more as the Chaos-alligned warlord known as Huron Blackheart, while the conflict itself involved a significant number of warring Space Marine Chapters as the primary participants.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Adeptus Ridicamis Podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantis. His name is Bricky. And, ooh, the badab war is getting spoicy. But before we continue, if you enjoy today's episode and you feel like supporting us, head over to patreon.com slash adeptus Ridiculous, where you can get access to bluepers if they happen, the Discord, the $15 tier, get you access to all of our posters in crispy HD digital format. It's great. Patreon.com slash Adeptus. ridiculous. Bricky, what's going on today? Black Friday sale, full stop. All things are crazy. Buy over 100 bucks. Get 15% off your whole order. Link in the description. All the good stuff. Brand new desk mat, little blood, all of the amazing new products, all listed there. Also, there is the last chance for posters, but we do have the last poster of the year. The Christmas poster coming out next week. So if you want to do a big bundle order and everything and get, you know, all the last bits. You can wait until last week for that one and it will be up and fantastic. But outside of that, if you're not interested in the posters and you want a bunch of apparel and
Starting point is 00:01:24 cool merch, there's our dice, there's all the other stuff, it's good stuff. Check it out. I sufficiently made use of that discount at the store the other day. What did you get? I got the red hoodie. I got both of the little blood shirts, and I got the spider booty poster. Oh, the venom crawler wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the spider booty post. It's going on the wall, man. It has to. It has to. The excitement you have from that phrase makes me upset. The spider booty. Yeah, it makes me a... The spy dussey, as the kids like to say. Oh, that is so much worse. I want to go back to the other one. I like the first one a lot better.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Anytime you had the usy at the end of something, you know. You know it's a problem. Yeah, big problem. Speaking of big problems, isn't old, I don't want to say Blackheart, but isn't some problems in the badab sector. Yeah. So the badab war has been, oh, Shai has three fun facts about the previous episode. I will admit one of them, I think I might not. know what one of them is, but lay them on me first.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah. So I can pretend like I know and lie. Do you want to read them or should I? You know, let's go back and forth. You can do the first. Okay. So, first reason. The reason why Marines and Ehrant were unwilling to be so aggressive was due to them being
Starting point is 00:03:01 honor brothers with the Lamenters due to serving together multiple times. As such, when the Lamenters and Marines Erant faced each. other they refuse to attack each other and just move ships around until one side left this made both chapters respective allies well this made their respective allies really pissed it's fair because neither of them would fight and they would just kind of just pretty fair that's very fair circle around each other and be like no i don't want to fight me either yeah all right all right uh number two many of people believe that the betrayal at grief was inquisition false flag operation, meant to behead,
Starting point is 00:03:39 renegade Astrocloths, and Mantis Warriors, in addition to killing off Loyalist Red Scorpions Chapter Master for attempting negotiations, despite being forbidden from doing so by the Inquisition. Oh. That is a pretty inquisitorial
Starting point is 00:03:56 base idea. It does not surprise me. I was going to say, I would not put that past the Inquisition at all. That definitely, that tracks. for that is for sure. That is absolutely in their MOs. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:12 All right, what's the other one? And three, according to Edwin Brown, who helped develop the Badaab War, Minotars were formed by a garrison of iron warriors who were allowed to rejoin the Imperium back during the Great Scouring, but were put on a short leash as descendants of traitors. That's why their history is muddled. Gene seat is marked as unknown chimeric, and why they follow orders of high lords and high lords only, also explain.
Starting point is 00:04:37 why they're such assholes. You know, is that true? I mean, this all sounds fair enough to me. I mean, all of this makes sense. That does explain why the Minotars are the way that they are. So, yeah. I believe all the things that she says. Yeah, all the things she said, all the things she said, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Is that a, is that a meme? Old song reference, don't worry about it. Oh, okay. I assumed it was another. All right, mark down, D.K. a boomer moment on your bingo cards. You've already gotten a Burkina Shilling. Not only is it an old song. It's an old WWE intro song too for a wrestler named Victoria.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Oh, oh, oh, mark down your wrestling reference on your bingo cards too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Making the references, brother. We're marking these all off today. Oh, yeah. I'm making sure people get their bingos nice and early so that we can enjoy the badab war in all of its glory.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Hell yeah. Oh, right. So, the Bad Ab War, I thought that we would have two more episodes. I was wrong. This is most definitely the last episode of the Bad Ab War. Things wrap up relatively quickly in Part 2, at least in the Part 2 documents that I have. And it is not take long. Most of it is spent talking about the various chapters and what they're like and their general
Starting point is 00:06:04 lore and all that fun stuff. Okay. So as we left the last one over, the loyalists have for the most part taken over of these north and south reaches of space. The pale stars were taken up by the minotars who perceived to curb-stomp them into oblivion. And the northern regions have been fought for the endymion cluster pretty hard by a plethora of the loyalists. But the main things that happen in the part two kind of go like this. There are a couple important battles and important engagements and all that stuff. But there's also the more fun stuff to me, which is not the battles, but rather the more political minutia.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And also a very hilarious method to break the bad abring of steel. But we'll get to there when we get to it. Oh, no. It's 40K. So it's got to be something absolutely silly like, uh, Oh, the Imperium decided they were going to descend a fleet of empty ships and just ram the damn thing until it cracked. That's an orc method. That's true. That is a very orc method.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That just throw shit at it until it breaks. Yeah, that is more of an orc thing, isn't it? But for the most part, the start of this whole section began with something called the subjugation of Gallin 6. Gallowin 6 is a overburden colony world for about six years. It's been the gallon system, of course. It's been a prize that's been battled from the loyalists and sessionists pretty often, including the Firehawks chapter that had received quite the hefty casualties. And generally leading it to a lot of the mass refugee immigration,
Starting point is 00:07:57 to the world of Galen 6. For the most part, there were a large contingent of problems on Galen, not the smallest being a chaos-influenced uprising, which required a suppression campaign. Then after that, we got ourselves a couple of revolts. Oh, no. Love that.
Starting point is 00:08:24 With everything going on in the bad dab sector, surely what we need is not only chaos is influence foaming around, but also, you know, let's deal with a revolution or an attempted coup revolution. Sure, sure, just what they needed, just what they needed. Just a little revolution. Just what the doctor ordered. So like I mentioned, each of these areas for today are like little individual bits that have been added and, well, not necessarily added, but like individual. little situations that have been brought up to end up
Starting point is 00:09:00 at the bad ab war like small subjugations here and there. This was the main claim to fame I'd argue for the Sons of Medusa chapter which are which home world is Medusa trivia. Which home world is Medusa? I don't
Starting point is 00:09:19 remember I got to be honest with you. Probably like a Wasn't there like a Gorgon planet or something? and then sort of medeuses are from something like that. You're getting so close. Look at the guy. Come on. Look at the guy. I don't know. No, just tell me.
Starting point is 00:09:35 This is me rolling into stupid quote. What does he look like? What do you see prominent in his features? A lot of green. God damn it. Not green. A lot of green, red, white helmet, skulls. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:09:49 You're a little less, not the colors. Not the colors. Not the colors. Do, do, do do do do do do do. I don't. I don't know. That's Tetris actually. Yeah, that's Tetris.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like, man. God damn it. It's the iron hands. Look at all the tech. Look at all the, look at all the omniscient gears and cogs. And it's an iron hand subchapter. Medusa is the home world of Ferris Manus.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Oh, see, he had a head, though. That's why I didn't. His name, okay, not bad. His name. Wait, no, Medea's not the home world. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess the logo is a big cog, isn't it? A big iron cog.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So I guess, I don't know. A part of me, like, looked at him, I was like, what is this supposed to be like, did they corrupt and become like, you know, Nergel or something? Because, oh, the green, but... Wait, no, this is the homeworld. Oh, okay. Reduce is the home world. Yeah, it is the home world. I'm stupid. I thought it was called Gorgon for a second. I remembered his nickname was the Gorgon. Oh, that's where I got confused. Yeah, because I thought Gorgon was a planet too. His nickname was the, okay, yep, I was, I was also confused. I think I confused you by not immediately
Starting point is 00:10:56 getting it. Medusa, Sons of Medusa, Iron Hand subchapter, the whole nine yards. This was kind of their claim to fame. The main point of Gallon was to, like most of the plants here in the Maelstrom zone, don't blow it to smetareens.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Please keep the infrastructure intact. And if you can, most of the people. Oh, boy. That always goes well. Well, it did for the most part. They landed this area called the Old City, one of the major. like kind of manufacturing ports and areas on this planet.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And, you know, kind of like, it's like this mechanical fury. They orbital bombarded them across the city, landed tons of landing craft. And just for the most part, had all of the survivors huddling together scared of what's happening as every single defense like subsequently fell. Oh, boy. It was like land speeders flying over the sky, like little flocks of crows and armored columns of land raiders and razorbacks. And every time someone tried to take up arms, they were just like mercilessly cut down. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah, try to keep everybody alive. I know. Orbital bombardment. That'll do the train. Absolutely. Not the precious areas. Okay. I was going to be like, man, I know how to keep casualties at a minimum.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Orbital bombardment. That'll do the trick. And it's like, I guess in 40K maybe that's seen as tactical orbital bombardment. Tactical. Okay. It's all about what you're bombarding and what they're bombarding is defensive physicians, not like the home of a... Not like City Hall.
Starting point is 00:12:51 They're not like going. going to the main hub of innocent civilians and just like, ah, sure, make that a crater. Yeah, you get it now. Yeah, they didn't pull a firehawks and nuke a farm just for the funzies. Well, I mean, probably was a little fun. Sure, but, you know. Anyway, yeah, yeah, I'm like, see?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, she, I'm going to nuke a farm, shee. But yeah, for the most part, they were, as the sons of Medusa put themselves, a purging the week. Within, like just in cold calculated fury, they took gallon six, maintained its infrastructure, and then naturally the Inquisition
Starting point is 00:13:34 the Department of Mutatorum was like, all right, everyone here for your crimes are now either indicted into a penal legion or will continue to work into servitude for the rest of your life to fund the loyalist war effort. Yay!
Starting point is 00:13:47 Oh boy, even if they had nothing to do with like the uprising, they didn't have chaos or whatever, It's just like, oh, yeah, you live here and you are, I guess, to blame. So congratulations on eternal servitude. You know that the taint of chaos is. The taint of chaos is so easily cured. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:09 The taint of chaos. Anyway, despite all that kind of shit, the gallon six was subjugated. That's check mark one. Gallon six, check. Gallon 6, check. Check. A large manufacturing zone. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:27 The next part came was the re-arrival of the Carcarodon's Astra. The good old space sharks. So they're not with the Minotars anymore? No, they have moved up to a more, like, they're talking to the Imperium now, basically, as how I could put it. I remember them helping down in the pale stars But they kind of just arrived As they do Isn't that like a pretty normal Caradon thing
Starting point is 00:14:59 They just kind of show up Nobody really knows where they're Where they came from or what they're doing They just show up and just hey guys Space Sharks As far as I'm concerned The Space Sharks Are actually very much a
Starting point is 00:15:13 I think this is where their book was Because this sounds like all the things things I said in the episode we did on them. Mm. Because they literally just arrive with extraordinarily old Imperium Ident codes. Um, and we're like, hey, we're here. Uh, what do you want us to do? Because we are really good at killing.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They sure are. Love me some Carcadones. So, you know, there was like that little tense in between. you're like, oh, should we trust them? We'll have Commander Carab Coln of the Red Scorpions kind of make some decisions, like, some wary new recruits, especially because the fire angels really don't like them because they think they're like barbarous and aberrant and just kind of, because, you know, they're space sharks, so.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess then it would be a good idea to put them with the Minotars, because if the Minotars see anything suspect, they probably just without hesitation, mow their ass down. I mean, as you see here by this quote, it says, we surrender by the mercy of the God emperor.
Starting point is 00:16:28 The war is over. We have surrendered. Final Vox intercept from the Void Colony's SIGARD 7. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. You never like to hear that one when you're talking about 40K because someone's getting genocided.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's a classic, lovely case of hey check it out the carcarodons are possibly from the jeans to the night lords and that tracks Yeah that's super track especially with like because they have that crazy appearance of kind of a shark
Starting point is 00:17:01 with the with the teeth and the Don't they have like pale white skin too? Because like a shark hide right? It's kind of grayish white. It's like a gray like leathery kind of context of Yeah yeah yeah and the black eyes like shy said black eyes big sharp teeth That does seem like it's a night lord's thing.
Starting point is 00:17:18 They have a lot more of the scary shark teeth type thing as opposed to like, I'm assuming night lords have more of like a like a fanged thing because, you know, they're vampirey. That's true. They would have just the sharp canines, as it were. A little bit. Oh, they're not even that vampire. It's more bloody. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Point being, the Carcaryanos arrive and started murdering everybody. Man, man, man, man. Particularly the Mantis Warriors chapter. They were the ones with a lot of the worlds they kept up in the Endymion cluster. And so they were still being kind of a pain in the ass. They're really good at guerrilla warfare, just kind of bouncing around back and forth and firing and moving. Didn't the mantis warriors suffer some pretty heavy casualties in the last couple episodes? That's why they're currently in the guerrilla warfare.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, so they're not at full strength. So it probably isn't out of the realm of possibility that the Carcherodons just roll over them, just stomp them into the ground. They kind of do. The Carcadons arrive and then just kind of pick apart the Mantis Warriors piecemeal. Every time it's naturally a pretty decent defense, but it's just like, well, that battle is lost crap. That battle is lost crap. And so the constant weakened position of the Mantis War, Warriors was still a problem because
Starting point is 00:18:46 Karab Kohn was like, yeah, just kind of leaving a space marine chapter that's wounded but still in play alone. It's just not a good idea. Yeah, especially in the bad ab war when you, yeah, that's just asking to have them get wiped out. Like you're just begging for one of the Imperium forces to just take them out.
Starting point is 00:19:08 That was basically what Karab Korn's idea was. was like, all right, Carcadons, you want to prove your worth, I'm going to set you loose. Because I can keep you at an arm's length. Like, go over there, do what you're doing, prove to me. Kind of the same thing the Minutars did. I was like, all right, you know, they're kind of dicks, but they're doing all right. That's a shame because the Mantis wear his logo is very cool. That's a very cool Mantis logo with like the yellow back with like the black logo and the red eyes.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That's a pretty cool color scheme, actually. It is. It's a shame that they get absolutely rolled and probably never heard from again after this because they get wiped out. Oh, not quite. They get rolled. Don't get me wrong. But they actually, they surrender. They offer their unconditional surrender as renegades and are.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And it's accepted? Yeah. Oh, okay. Carcaryon's like, they're space marines short and they're problematic short. But you can't really be under the guile of the Red Scorpions chaptermaster and then be like, yeah, they surrender, but we just decided to like eat them anyway, you know. I mean, to be fair, in 40K, if you're like, oh, yeah, but they're traitors. And it's like, oh, they surrendered, but you still just wet them out? Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, that's more of a minotaur. That's, the minotars are more of a, yeah, I don't know what you're talking about surrender. They just kept fighting to the last man. What a shame. Oh, shoot. I didn't hear any surrender command. It must not have come over our Vox as we were eating them. I got to be perfectly honest.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It was a really weird strategic decision the way they all faced the wall and then died right there. I was kind of shocked. It's amazing. They all put a gun to the back of their heads as they were facing a wall and just, you know, we had no. Hey, we did. What are you going to do? I genuinely knew we could not trust. We just genuinely could not trust.
Starting point is 00:21:09 these these dang guys like a mass suicide that's so chaos that's so chaos yeah yeah well this is what we get damn yeah zinch must have done something to me what are you gonna do what are you gonna do what are you gonna do what you got to anyway uh so the mantis warriors surrendered and also the fire angels chapter um also left they were the loyalist chapter but they're kind of like honor bound and they see the carter Caradons, probably eating people and be like, you know, I'm out. Like, we're massively injured. Our forces are depleted. Don't much like our neighbors.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I think we're going to bail. Don't much like our neighbors. Indeed, sir, as they are just eating people. Sure. Yeah, it's like, you know what? I'm out. What's the disappearing kid meme? The, and just pieced out.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Oh, the guy who does the peace sign and disappears? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's totally the fire angels? Fire angels, yeah. Yeah, I would, I would, peace. So, this next part of the war, wait, fire angels are ultramarine descendants,
Starting point is 00:22:26 so you're likely, literally right-breaking. You know, I may not love the ultramarines, but man, their descendants are getting, kind of shrugged on. Yikes. Yikes. Shrucked? Yeah, they're getting kind of shrugged.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I don't know where that comes from. I think my brain might have just made that up on the spot, but it sounded right. I think you like went from like wrecked to shrek to shrugged. I don't know. It's fine. Get shrugged on, new. This next part of the war, I'd argue, is. probably the most important.
Starting point is 00:23:11 So this next, it's chapter six, the tyrant stands alone. Oh, oh boy. So basically what occurs is that there's a lot of Corsair activity, Corsairs being the Astrocloths, because they eventually became the Red Corsairs. But in this time, they mean Corsairs as in like solo rating parties. They decided to, sorry, there's a lot more activity. in the Eastern Mailstrom zone. And it's led to the idea that Astral Clause have somehow slipped out of the bad-ab sector and are starting new operations.
Starting point is 00:23:48 This, for all of my StarCraft 2 fans, this was what we would call a stealth base. It's as a fan of playing Taryn in ranked, I would often make a command center float it to the random corner of the map and just get some minerals and build up a slight secondary army there to prepare. Oh, okay. I kind of know what you mean. I've seen a few Starcraft matches here and there. I know about the floating fortresses.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I love StarCraft. I'm sad that it's so hard. Yeah, I just, I can't do RTSs, man. I think everybody knows how smooth of a brain I have. I cannot with all the clicking and strategizing and figuring out which minerals and things to build first. And that ain't me. I need some brainless fun, man.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I need like, here's your attack button. Here's your dodge button. Go. Listen, we'll play some lethal company one day. Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah. Anyway, so this was eventually confirmed by some scouting ships that the secessionists were, in fact, creating a brand new four base, training a ton of, you know, more
Starting point is 00:25:06 fighters, the tyrants legion, the like, and all that kind of stuff. It was a ragged armada, vessels, wrecks, scavenged, hulks, freighters they stole, all that kind of stuff with vast camps of training grounds.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Kind of like work camps, I'm being totally honest, but like makeshift training work camps. And so basically what happens here is that this is the salamanders claim to fame in the war.
Starting point is 00:25:39 MIRSON, M-I-R-A-M-R-A-M-A-M. The Salameters like their apostrophes. Decided to use their battle barge known as the Pire of Glory, of of course. Oh, hell yeah. Salamander names are so great. They use that along with a planned task force, including the previously completely silent
Starting point is 00:26:03 Chaplain Yvonis and Comey, the representative of the minotars that never spoke and just kind of chilled in the council. Oh, all right. Him as well, which is hilarious because the Minotars and the Salmaners working together is just crazy. They would probably be at odds all the time. Minotars are just like, oh, look, they're still innocent people. We should probably kill them. And the Salman is like, no.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Stop. The whole concept for this engagement was to make their way over. there and put an end to this relatively fast. The salamanders are pretty, pretty low on general numbers, but salamanders love fighting at low odds. That's just kind of their thing. They can find glory and honor in, you know, fighting the oppressive numbers. They're really good at their suicidal missions.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And they're salamanders, so, you know, who cares? Yeah. So the salamanders joint Minotars task force, so for a friend minotaur's task force. a phrase that should never be said, made Planet fall to attack the secessionist bases and training camps. And this was a force known as the gift of fire, which is, of course, again. Oh, boy. Just lovely. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Truly the odd couple, the Minotars and the Salomon is truly the oddest couple that has ever existed. So once they arrive, they realize a large portion of the bigger ships are left on, like, more. scrounging up runs. So they said, oh, wait, we got to go, go now. We got go, go, go. So the Pire of Glory decided to macro cannon bombarded whatever they could, naturally. Naturally, sure, why not? And once in the atmosphere, the two of them divided into their own forms of grounds. The Minotaurs attacked the bastions where the quote unquote dark architects were likely concealed, while the salamanders descended on the city-sized training camps.
Starting point is 00:28:07 They also had a bunch of things called Cestis pattern assault rams, which is a hilarious, hilarious unit. Right. Is there a picture of these things, or is it just something that's described in like a book? So if I'm not mistaken, the Cestis pattern assault rams are a forge world. they're like a version of a Thunderhawk gun ship but they're but they're
Starting point is 00:28:37 but like you hit them with it like it's a ram wow that I mean that looks very cool and that definitely looks like something that like you just get that thing up to mock speed and you just let it plow something over it's a pretty cool looking ship actually
Starting point is 00:28:54 I think I like it a lot more than the Thunderhawk oh absolutely that looks like a futuristic stick speeder. It looks like one of those, you know, like in that Star Wars movie where Anakin and Obi-1 are like flying through the city chasing after the changeling, it looks like it'd be right at home in that skyscape, just flying around, just whatever. Yeah, despite the fact that this thing is like the size of an apartment building, because it's
Starting point is 00:29:20 the size of a Thunderhawk. Oh, well, if you shrunk it down a little bit. Sure, sure, but yeah, it's gigantic. I love it. It looks great. It is pretty cool. I do love the... Oh, my shit.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah, it is, it is a space Normandy boat. You ram it into the enemy ship and the dudes get in. Well, hey, it works. I mean, as far as space marine deployments, why spend money on a drop pod when you can just shove the ship into them? I mean, hey, sure. I mean, I'm sure there are some chapters that love doing that more than others. Like, I'm sure, that seems like something the Minotars would just, oh, man, they would get organ. gasmic over that thing.
Starting point is 00:30:04 It is, it is relatively lovely. Anyway, um, Relatively lovely. So yeah, the, relative to what, Bricky?
Starting point is 00:30:14 I don't know. There's a lot of, you remember our Kiryoth episodes. There's some dumb ass ones out there. That's true. You're right. There's some weird 40K vehicles. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I'm sorry. You're right. You're right. All right. So, uh, this basically came to the, the extent of the, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:30 Minotaras and the Salamanders chapter. where the Minotars began to just like clap on a lot of the Astral Claw defenders down below, while the Salamanders did a really perfect cycle of, all right, fire Drake Terminators down, storm bolters, missile launchers, like rip through everybody. All right, back them up. We're bringing in triple land raiders. All right, they've broken through, bring them back, seven dreadnots. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:00 clunk clunk and they just just massacred like this is no like remember no russian monor for two levels just unloading swaths of multi melters and cannons into the packed masses of troops and just vaporizing them they had no chance there was no chance i was going to say if if you're telling me they brought in three land raiders seven dreadnots and and salamanders you're ahoi like bruh unless you've got a big pack of black legion in there too there's no chance
Starting point is 00:31:39 you have no shot if you're a training ground especially when what when the minotars made their way minotars and Salmaners actually bashed their way into the underground cavern system and found the heretic laboratories
Starting point is 00:31:56 oh no so So, good old Huron has not necessarily been dabbling with chaos, so to speak, but he has been doing a lot of things that the Imperium would refer to as heretical. Okay. Naturally. Yeah, a lot of weird Zeno shit. Not Zeno shit. More so generating a bunch of combat drugs for his troops.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And more importantly, stealing the gene seed of the dead space marines they killed. Ooh, yep, that'll do it. I mean, boy, if the combat drugs didn't do it, yeah, stealing gene seed is definitely high treason and, yeah, is corpse taker apothecaries. This is, you know, when you think of chaos space marines, like this is just a Sunday. But, yeah, for a secessionist who still believe in the god emperor,
Starting point is 00:32:53 not great. No. So after this, and then they found all this stuff out, They were beginning to leave, so to speak. However, after the Gift of Fire Task Force had finished their victory, they were struck by a really powerful warp squall and scattered on their way back to Imperial Space. They made it out alive, thanks to their really good navigator, whose name is also Nostromo, which is kind of a Nostromo, which is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But at this point, the Geller Fields were at the point of the collapse and their drives were failing. So the vessels kind of limped their way out of the boundaries to repair themselves, which did not do great as the Astro Claus strike cruiser arrived in the region. And having found their home base destroyed, and they're pretty pissed. So the Astral Clause Arch Centurion Carnac Commodus love these six fucking word names. That is just word soup. He found the Pire of Glory's ship and decided to take vengeance for his supposed failings and protecting his home system. He also had an astropathic message sent to his unexpected.
Starting point is 00:34:25 ally from the executioner's chapter, a battle barge known as the Fayton, Fayton's wrath. So, tough fighting. You know, we got the pyro glory surrounded. Both the Astrocloths are here and the battle barge of the kind of weird executioner chapter also here. Bit of a... It's not looking great for the salamanders. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And the executioners like the Minotars, yeah, should I say here, they, uh, they owed here an honor debt for saving their child from extinction. Oh, okay. But did it much like working with him much? They kind of just did their own thing like the Minotars did. Oh, okay. So the executioners aren't necessarily on Huron's side.
Starting point is 00:35:10 It's just honor compels them to fight for him. No, they're on his side. They're on his side. But they're just not how you say like a, I don't know how to describe it. They're just, they're a wild card. Yeah, they're doing their own thing. doing their own thing, not following his orders, but they'll help.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Like the Minotars. Yeah. So, with this, Thulsa Kane, the master of the executioners, after a massive ship battle, Vox the Salamander's vessel, and offered them the chance for an honorable surrender. Oh, I'm sure that went over just perfectly. I'm sure they just took it. And, hey, yeah, sure, you know, no problem. Yeah, sure. Always happens.
Starting point is 00:35:55 them an oath that they would escort them with safe passage from the war zone and not take up arms again in the conflict. Now, Merson, the commander of the Salamaners Force, said okay. He conceded to the
Starting point is 00:36:11 demand despite knowing that there's issues, but it's either all face death immediately or take a surrender. I'm kind of surprised they actually took the surrender. Especially with Salomon is to be like, no, fight till the death, glory to the bitter you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:36:27 I kind of figured they wouldn't so I think it's also it's also because this was this guy was a veteran commander but also when he was just a scout actually fought alongside the executioner's chapter like centuries ago so
Starting point is 00:36:42 he kind of he trusted their oath well no he trusted their oath he trusted their saying right right okay um so both the Astro Claus and Executioner's chapter drew alongside and docked in Borden.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Also, yeah, Shy makes a good point. It's still not a fight between chaos and Imperium. It's Imperium and renegades. And so surrender is a more acceptable statement because no, it's not like you're bringing in the follower of Slanesh or something. That's true.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I guess at this point nobody has gone full chaos and nobody needs to be like just execute them to the last man, right? It's not like you're fighting Abadon or something. So yeah, I guess that's fair. I guess then surrender would be a more palatable option that you'd be open to.
Starting point is 00:37:35 A little more acceptable. Yeah. So once they boarded and docked, the Thulsa Kane, the leader of the executioners, accepted Merson's sword and surrender, and they stood down all their arms. Now, our centurion comitus also led his own boarding party. and of course had been unopposed due to the surrender and all that jazz. He made his way directly to the gene seed vaults. Oh boy, here we go again. And was like, give me them all.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Oh, boy, he stole all the gene seed, huh? Well, the salamander said, um, fuck off. I was going to say, if you say that to a space submarine chapter, they are not, that'll start a fight, that'll start a, to the death fight to save the gene seed, yeah. So the Salamanders apothecaries told him no, and Comedus killed them all. And at this point, furious, he ordered the massacre of the salamanders that they had taken prisoner and commanded them to take the gene seed, whether alive or dead.
Starting point is 00:38:46 This had the executioner's chapter, Kane, become incredibly pissed off. with his allies. I bet. And so, you know, good old, yeah, this was there,
Starting point is 00:39:01 are we the baddies moment? Are we the, but no, what? So incensed in a murderous rage, Kane lifted the surrender on the salamanders
Starting point is 00:39:16 and the two of them hunted down the astral claws aboard the ship for this massive transgression. of honor. Okay, so the executioners have now turned on the Astral Clause.
Starting point is 00:39:29 They have. And at the end of, at the end of the fight, Kane knelt before Mirosan and provided to him the head of Art Centurion Comedus. Oh, metal as hell. Let's go. Good for them. Good for the executioners. Yeah, this was their, oh, crap moment.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's like, oh, yeah, we really shouldn't have followed these guys. Oh, boy. So they withdrew then without further comment. The Pire of Glory were then left on their own devices. And from this point on, the executioners were a total third party. They were actively fighting the Astral Clause and Secessionists. But when the loyalists would contact them, they basically just put them on mute. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Gotcha. So they have kind of not exactly shifted sides, but. Yeah. Yeah, they're fighting off the Astral Clause with a real anger and hatred for what they did to their honor and what happened at the Pire of Glory. Yeah, justifiably, yeah. Ooh, you want to read this next one? Sure. These guys don't eff around, says Shai.
Starting point is 00:40:46 At one point, one company of executioners and a company of Carcadons fought each other. Carcadons wiped executioners out, but not a bit of them. before executioners wiped them out. That's right. When people arrived at battle scene, literally everyone on both sides was dead. Wow. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:05 that sounds about right. They're called the executioners for a reason. Fair enough. I mean, I guess you don't get a name like that in 40K without having some justifiable oomph behind it, right? So fair, I guess. So after that,
Starting point is 00:41:21 let's say Huron, seeing what happened the executioner's chapter was not stoked Yeah Oh no One more notch on their belts
Starting point is 00:41:36 I don't have many Fighting Forces left So due to this Good old Huron Was like all right That's it The Imperium is Dogwater
Starting point is 00:41:48 I am done with this It is a bankrupt rotting carcass fit only for the grave. A sovereign state has now been dedicated to the triumph of mankind, and he took every single cardinal, priest, and missionary out into the streets and murdered them. Whoa! Ripped off all branding of the Imperial of Mam, the Imperial Aquila, scratched off any and all imperial logos on their armor.
Starting point is 00:42:21 and yes, his big quote was the only reward for loyalty is betrayal. Oh, man. I mean, you knew at some point it had to come to this. You just, you knew, right? But dang. Yeah, this was the, the end of, of Huron's like, I'm still fighting for the, like, I have just different ideas of the Imperium and stuff. Like, this is like, nope. I am on my own.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Wow. Actually, I'm kind of surprised it took him this long. I mean, the Imperium at large is completely surrounding him. They've taken pretty much everything around him. And he's still like, oh, for the emperor. And only now is he like, ah, take down all symbols of the Imperium, kill all the imperial priests and stuff. And I'm surprised it actually took him this long.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah, he's still not chaos. I know. I know he's still not chaos. He's still just kind of like, hey, I was doing this for good reasons. And yeah, yeah. He is currently taxation is theft. Yeah. And I mean, at this, and I mean, at this point, the Astro Clause are actually getting really like, I mean, okay, like, fascist is already a common thing in this universe.
Starting point is 00:43:43 But they're getting a lot worse. Like, if you're a non-a-starities and you look at an Astral Clause, it was. punished by blinding. Oh, wow. An assassin tried to kill Huron, so now nobody is allowed in his chambers except for other Astardis. Right. They're getting really, like, paranoid and angry. Yeah, well, I mean, with the way the bad ab war is going, of course they would be.
Starting point is 00:44:09 They're just, it seems like they're about to lose. So, of course you're going to get paranoid. The next major battle, the next checkmark we have, is what I'm kind of going to scoot past, a little quickly because this is a pretty important one but it's very long and it's got a lot it was the taking or the invasion of Pyreus
Starting point is 00:44:30 long story short Pyraeus was a very important world in the bad ab sector this would have been their main what do you call it like staging ground like forward operating base in the bad ab sector
Starting point is 00:44:47 this one, it's a lot, it's a lot of battles. It's a lot of murder and, uh, the Red Scorpions chapters, Minotaur's and the Exorcist chapters all fought in here along with a bunch of Imperial Navy fleets. Geesh. You know, their task force was the, uh, big battle. Big battle.
Starting point is 00:45:10 The spear of Mizoa was, was, uh, their big, like, it's, is a whole thing. It was a whole gigantic fight in order to get a, a hold on this area. The main climax of the fight being the duel between Huron and the Red Scorpions chapter master, Karab Kohlton. Okay. All right. That is a big duel. Sure. It is a huge duel. It was a classic case of both of them were left wounded, but Huron really pulled out the dub on that one by just shredding him with his claw over and over again. But in classic 40K fashion. He survives from his wounds, just barely, and is able to escape the classic. Yeah. Yeah. 40K does that a lot where it's like, oh, we can't kill off either of them because
Starting point is 00:46:00 then we lose two characters or we lose one important character. So we'll just have him be mortally wounded and flee and, oh, he's fine. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. It is a thing they do a lot. It's fine, I guess, but it is a little, it is a little annoying how often it happens. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where you don't want to just, you know, senselessly kill off what you conceive to be a main character that has further use because, you know. Yeah, all the usual jazz. Yeah, yeah, the main ending point of this war and the reason why I'm skipping over it the most of it is is because it's basically just a way for them to get it so that both sides are now at a really tough time. the loyalist technically lost because they didn't take the place
Starting point is 00:46:51 but they also decimated basically the entire secessionist fleet since it is only the Astral Clause left and Huron is significantly wounded at this point right? He got stabbed a bunch but he, you know, it's a space marine in a terminator. He'll be fine. He'll be fine as he always is.
Starting point is 00:47:12 He'll be fine, whatever. Coln survive. the tank. Yeah, you get him back. Colon survived and he ended up getting himself, you know, fixed up to lead the war again, the usual. Of course, of course. The main thing is like, oh, no, we didn't take this forward operating base,
Starting point is 00:47:28 but we did also destroy basically their entire defensive fleet. And so, in a sense, we did take the base because they can't really hold it anymore. Yeah, I mean, so that's kind of an Imperium dub. It was in a sense an Imperium dub. And the problem was that for a long while after this, they did this line called the Silent War, which was just basically the fact that neither of them had any real forces to spare. And anything the Imperium wanted to give them, they couldn't because guess what?
Starting point is 00:48:00 The Tyrannids are here and they're taking everything. So they literally have no forces to spare. That sucks. And they're so close. If they could just spare anything, they could pay. probably just, uh, that's, that is unfortunate timing. Yeah, it is, it is not great on that side. But despite that all, um, this small little like back and forth bloody miniature, like attacks were the silent war for a bit.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Before eventually with all of the lost forces and the lack of reinforcements, they decided to do their final, final bit. Their final fight. Final fight. Final fight. This was gathering a large contingent of all of the currently active space marine chapters. Specifically, the executioners were taken or met with the Salamanders chapter master again and brought out of the equation. basically they said like hey we got problems weird things were occurring but hey
Starting point is 00:49:14 executioner chapter surrender come with us us salamanders we will see to your survival basically and if you just don't be part of this war anymore and they said okay okay as they probably would since it's coming from the salamanders
Starting point is 00:49:32 yeah there's like an honor debt there you know definitely definitely so there's their own little doodads of that kind of thing. So, do you remember the Ring of Steel? I do remember the Ring of Steel. It's impenetrable. And Huron's kind of at the center of it.
Starting point is 00:49:52 There's a little badab and yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So the Ring of Steel with the arrival of the Star Phantoms chapter fleet, like full on 10 company strong, huge group. Battle Titans of the Legio Crucius, which are thanks to the intervention of the Mechanicus Group on Engstrom that we talked about. And a few other chapters, it was now time to deal with the Ring of Steel. The problem with the Ring of Steel is that Dan, the Star Phantoms logo is baller. Holy hell.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Whoa, their whole vibe is amazing. Death is but a door. Whoa. The Credo Mortifax. who are these edgy ass people? These people are cool. Yeah, they're super cool. They got the black and white.
Starting point is 00:50:44 There's a four on their knee as well. They're like the fourth company or something, fourth chapter. They're very cool. I like them a lot. Jeez. So edgy, too. You're right. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yeah, I mean, that's edgy as hell, but I do like that look. Yeah, that is a great look. Anyway, so they bring the loyalist armada to the system. And the problem with the ring of steel is that it is it's hard to describe. It's like trying to enter someone's home, but every single cobblestone thing in the pathway is a mine. And the grass is lava. And
Starting point is 00:51:25 if you try to drive your car up the driveway, there's just like a turret. There's nothing there you can deal with. It's very impossible to get through. impenetrable one might be pretty much impenetrable but the biggest downside of the ring of seal is that it is mostly immobile uh it's it can't you know it's just there's they're spudge of stations there they don't really move and if they do they don't move fast yeah so because of that they create a plan they get a loyalist armada enormous six battle barges nine strike cruisers imperial navy ships the adeptus mechanicus war Caraval, 84 escort ships, the Titan Legion, massive. Massive, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And what they do is they, the war, like all the bad ab thing is kind of spring to life. They start going wee woo, wee woo, and preparing themselves for the armada. However, quickly reaching terminal velocity was the bulk of the Rapturus Rex engaged with its main drive. at maximum power to alter course against with its inertia pulling a stellar fragment along with it
Starting point is 00:52:48 oh no are they just going to slingshot a giant rock into this thing I mean are they gonna are they just slingshot are they are they are they pulling a what was the Mass Effect DLC with the the thing that have the rocket on the bat? Yeah are they just
Starting point is 00:53:06 flinging an asteroid at it? So they call it a stellar fragment, which makes me assume it's a part of a star, but I don't know how they would grab a star. Yeah, how do you tugboat a star? So I'm assuming they're tugboating a giant asteroid of sorts.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yeah. But the way they describe it very difficulty. But basically the, they're basically tugboating a giant mass of something. And they just fling it at the ring of steel.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Well, they sent it a sign called the Sentinel Sigma Station, which can't really move that quick. So they have this giant rogue star fragment coming at them at terminal velocity. Oh, boy. And as it gets closer and closer, it's a tumbling fireball. So they go like, oh my God. So they start shooting at it, trying to break it apart Armageddon style. Too big. Well, they can't
Starting point is 00:54:07 Their stuff can't hit it because it's a burning fireball so their munitions burn up by the time it gets close. Okay. So. Well, goodbye. So eventually, though,
Starting point is 00:54:21 like with all of the mines and all the things placed around the system, the star gets, or whatever it is, gets really close to the station, but finally with a giant wave of atomic detonations
Starting point is 00:54:32 and plasma, batteries and stuff. The thing does break apart and start to shatter into smaller pieces washing the void shields of the station of like a wash with fire and flame. Yeah. By Dragon Force.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Anyway, yeah, go ahead. Now you can put that on the brickie mix of Boomer reference. Yeah. That is a huge boomer reference. Great one though. I do love me some good Dragon Force. Yeah. There's nothing like a little power metal. Yeah. Um, but, uh, with the wake of the star behind it as the, the, the fire moved and the, and the vision cleared came just drop pods.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, uh, like, uh, like, uh, angry bees. Oh, boy. Never ending drop pods. Oh, boy. And I don't, that'll, that'll put a dent in your shield. And so they landed on this station, the, uh, Sentinel Sigma station. And along with the drop pods. came the Archmegos Mechanicus Lords of Ankstrom, which because Huron is a self-absorbed,
Starting point is 00:55:42 power-hungry man, everything was in his code, basically. And once the Mechanicus Lords arrived, they subverted the machine spirits and weapons to their will and overrode the signals of the mines and the stations across the planets. Oh, boy. So the Iron Ring has sufficiently been, shut down. It has been turned against him and there is, so he, how the tables have turned.
Starting point is 00:56:12 How the turn tables. How the turns have tabled. Yes, indeed. So with that, and now that the ring of steel has been shattered, it comes down to the final assault. I mean, the final assault is exactly what you think it is. Landing more forces, Titan legions being dropped, orbital bombardment waves, you know, attacks above beta, primaries, Thunderhawks, land raiders. He has no chance. How does he survive this? He survives this by going deep, deep down into the vaults
Starting point is 00:56:47 of the Palace of Thorns as it's getting just blasted. Absolutely blasted. Sheesh. By God knows how many enemies. And deep in these vaults, he ends up fighting the chapter I believe it's a chapter master of the Star Phantoms chapter in which, oh no, it's a captain.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Captain Androcles, uh, blast him with a combi melta, taking off his right arm entirely and a good chunk of his right side of his body. Uh, Huron that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:23 because Huron's all metal over there now. And, uh, Huron then was, of course, like usual, able to escape and, uh, along with him, about 200 astral claws space marines got themselves into an escape transport and were for the most part never seen again. As the Carcarodon chapter sabotaged all the geothermal plants of the planet and the entire thing began to heave with the lava and tectonic activity of a volcano. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:59 All right. So Badab is going out the window. This planet will be absolutely, it is no more. It is just going to be swallowed by magma, fire, and death. I mean, the Mechanicus love their fire planets. You get a lot of power with fire planets. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Sure. Sure. And Huron just got a bunch of astral claws and just got an escape ship and just flew under the radar and got away. Pretty much, well, missing half of his body. But pretty much, yeah. Huron escapes. The Astral Clause have like a couple hundred people left. And he goes off to go do his rest of his shenanigans.
Starting point is 00:58:46 His red corsair nonsense. After and then, you know, I mean, for the most part, that ends the bad app war. The last bit of the Palace of Thorns raid and stuff is probably awesome to read about. but in this really condensed version, it is just another of our enormous battles. Yeah. For all intents and purposes, the bad ab war has been ended since you know.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They claim badab and Huron had to run away and missing half his body and he has basically no forces left. He can no longer put up much resistance. That would be correct. Damn. Also, yeah. I was so wrong in the last episode. the man never turned to chaos.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Huh. So at no point during the bad up where he turns the chaos, that's crazy. Because, like, knowing that he survives and knowing that he turns into Huron Blackheart, I just assumed at some point this was going to turn into another, oh, it's the Imperium versus Chaos, and they drove another one of their men to chaos because the ecclesiarchy and the administratum were being idiots. And surely, he must get chaos. to survive this and he never does. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I would argue that he, okay, Huron's initial, okay, well, real quick, let's do the trials and stuff. For the most part, a large portion of the chapters left, because remember, this is not chaos, where in, we're not killed or considered excommunicatoris. They were allowed to survive, the lamenters, the mantis warriors,
Starting point is 01:00:28 etc. By assuming that they were just horribly misled by the tyrant and understanding of his deeds. Oh, fair. And so they were all sent on penance crusades for the most part. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I think we talked about this in the Lamenters chapter. Like, go off, go kill a whole bunch of heretics and other stuff and don't come back for like 300 years as a penance for what you've done here. Maybe not 300 years, but for a while, you know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:02 So they just accept it like, oh, yeah, you were probably just following his orders because you had to and we'll let you back in and as long as you're still for the emperor. Okay. For the most part. 100 years, thank you. So actually, their penit should be ending rather soon because it's like 913 M41. Okay. So they could be, so like would the mantis warriors be let back in as a chapter or would
Starting point is 01:01:26 they be integrated into a separate chapter? They would keep themselves as a chapter. Remember, our chapter's only a thousand people. Yeah. That's true. It's not like they could be, yeah, that's true. Yeah, I believe it's his own kind, their own kind of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Okay. That being said, the star phantoms were given a bloody prize as they were badly mauled from their Pyrrhic victory. They were then rewarded dominion over the bad ab sector. However, it's a bit of a hollow one because they were seriously damaged in a lot of pain, but, you know. Still, you get bad ad now, and that's a, is it still a prosperous area after all the fighting? Not particularly. Yeah, everything has just been bombed and beaten and orbital bombarded to such a degree that it's like, you probably can't get much out of it anymore, can you?
Starting point is 01:02:25 There's not a whole lot of, like, reasons, yeah. It's not great That is Yeah that's oh boy It is about as broken and beaten as As they were I guess Let's fucking go Another Pyrich Imperial victory
Starting point is 01:02:39 Let's go baby Let's go You love to see it The region's unusable Let's go We win Woof woo woo woo woo woo woo woo hoo Um
Starting point is 01:02:51 As besides that Uh Shai is making a good point I think I'll leave a lot of Huron for another episode if we do one on the Red Corsairs Obviously, Huron has a fall to chaos Yep
Starting point is 01:03:05 And you know, there's a good point In this whole method Or this whole, there's a message here At the end of the day Taxes suck, we know Taxes are awful, that's part of it Disgusting Huron was
Starting point is 01:03:23 Like, okay, I can't say Huron did nothing wrong But for the first maybe a hundred years, Huron did nothing wrong. Yeah, for a good chunk of this, he really didn't do much wrong. He was kind of, he was really kind of betrayed by like the administratum and the Imperium a little bit. And it kind of sent him down a weird path. It did kind of send him down a path. Now, granted, he went way too far. Yep, he sure did.
Starting point is 01:03:54 In a lot of situations, but I have to say, I have to say, as far as this whole thing goes, I really did not, I don't think that Huron did a lot wrong. His reasons for leaving were just the empire he was building was fair, and he went just too far. Yeah, he just, he went too far, but I mean, not entirely his fault either, like you said. So, you know, yeah. His hand was a little forced, I'll be honest. Yeah, yeah. And after at some point... They just listened to him and just sent him a little bit of aid.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Oh, man. Yeah, that was... They could have stopped this whole thing from happening. Bad Ab stays super prosperous. But now they just have scorched earth. Well done, Imperium. Well done. Let's go another Imperial victory.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Let's go! Woo!

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