Adeptus Ridiculous - BLOOD REAVER - Warhammer 40k Book Review & Discussion

Episode Date: September 4, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous Podcast. Today is our book club slash review slash off tangent, whatever, about Blood Reaver, the second book in the Nightlord's trilogy. So if you enjoyed today's podcast, heading over to patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. And Bricky, I believe you have something special to tell the peoples. Yes. If you would like to check out merchandise, go check out Orchidate.com. Rudd River though. Great book. Yes, we were supposed to talk about this earlier, but I got sick.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And so now it's, remember when we were like, oh, we'll do it in two weeks and then do the next one next month. Now we're just, we're just doing it normal at this point. Yep. Unforeseen things. You can't help it. It's great that you're feeling better, though, because strep throat sucks. I think we already discussed that in the last episode. We did. It is awful, just awful. Luckily, I had audiobooks. I might need a few refreshers here and there, because it's been a couple weeks since I finished it, and I didn't get the chance to reread it, but I think it'll be good for the most. I think it would be good.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I reread it. So I finished a few months back, and I reread it for this episode, or listen to it, whatever. Yeah. But yes, so Blood Reaver is the second book in the Night Lord's trilogy. There's really no name for it. I guess you could say the First Claw trilogy or whatever, just the story of Talos, whatever. Um, is the second book. It is my personal favorite of the three. Yeah. It's, it's wild. It's pretty, pretty crazy. Um, so I guess in a sense we can kind of, well, I always wonder how to talk about these books because, I mean, initial thoughts, pretty good, I would assume.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Oh, yeah, definitely. Um, so far, I, there's been nothing about the Night Lord's Trilities. That's really disappointed me. Um, okay. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm pretty all in. on the trilogy and on the night lords and on tallos and the only thing that surprises me so far is that oozes hasn't been just skinned alive by his brothers yet because man acts a fool man man acts a fool indeed um we'll talk definitely more about that but i think i probably i don't know that was a better way to do it but i think the best way to do is probably just to go through the book like talk about things we like probably in chronological order because there's a lot of really big things that happen at the end of the book that
Starting point is 00:02:42 So many big things. There's a lot. So if we remember the ending of the prior book is when the Covenant of Blood was taking survivors from the... Ooh, what was the other night lord ship called? Not the echo of damnation. That comes later. Yeah, that comes later. It was something.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I forget the name. Wasn't it like the Hunter's Premonition? Yes. Yes. Good job. I don't know. how I pulled that out, by the way. I don't know why that was stored in my head,
Starting point is 00:03:16 but good, good, good, yep. They were grabbing survivors that were being shot down by the Black Fleet, and they were bailing from Crive. Yep. And we've come back. They did a hardcore bail, too. The way they bailed out of that planet,
Starting point is 00:03:30 whew. It's pretty cool the concept that the Exalted took the ship into, like, low orbit while it's just a flame, and it's like, get in, get in now, I'm not slowing down. I was just, I still remember the biggest surprise with that The Exalted actually like came around. It was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:48 I think I should probably listen to Talos. We'll help Talos. And I was like, whoa, hey, the Exalted's like on your side. Oh. So crazy too, considering that the, he was getting like railed by the hunter's premonition captain. Yeah. He was like Vanjured, you were always a worm and he just cuts the link. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But it's, uh, Blood Reaver starts off about two to three months. post on the raid well so they raided a planet and they were going for something called Ganges. The Ganges Station and the Ganges Station was the major was the major prize
Starting point is 00:04:27 and it starts off I'm not I'm not oh it starts off with with them getting a marine a space marine a blood angel right because they have I think they have the blood angel like crucified on like their walls or something and they're trying to get them to like are they trying
Starting point is 00:04:47 to get them to talk it was it was it was him or am i even the marines there and that was the later one yeah it was some chapter yeah i could have sworn it was one of the blood angels that was left over from when they failed to uh take over the covenant of blood and uh semantics the other thing about these books is it being a space marine and having all that stuff that helps keep you alive is kind of a double-edged sword because when you get captured
Starting point is 00:05:18 by like the night lords and they like you know cut you in half or like open you up and just let your entrails spill out your body is still like doing it supernatural healing and kind of sort of slowing down your death and making it all the more gruesome and painful because like
Starting point is 00:05:34 it's still trying to like coagulate your blood and heal the wound and everything is, it's just, oh, God. The Marines are like the image of Pepe with like the spaghetti coming out of his pocket, but it's like trying to put the intestines back in their body. Yeah, yeah. It's really nasty. But the opening of Blood Reaver, I think, is one of my more favorite parts of the whole book,
Starting point is 00:05:57 because it does a couple things. One, it introduced us to a new character, a gentleman named Marouk. Mm, Marouk, yes. I think his Ope intro is, my favorite part of the entire book when he's in his tiny little closet room and he's trying to watch TV and his feet hurt and his ears are ringing and he can't just put the batteries back in the remote. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And he's like, balls to this. And he throws the remote and he goes to bed. One of the best parts about that was, um, I forget what his specific job was, but it was such a menial bullshit job that the book is literally like, yeah, we couldn't even be bothered to program a servitor to do what you do. And it's like, oh. It's like 16 hours shifts and just another seven more years and I'll finally be able to leave. And it's like, oh my God, life in the Imperium.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. And even when he turns on the TV, the things he has are like safety drills, uh, ecclesiarchy sermons and safety drills or something. And it's like, oh no. And he's like, ah, it's better than silence. So whatever, sure. There's an old family guy, a meme I remember where it was like Quagmire and Cleveland are chained in a basement by Stewie
Starting point is 00:07:13 and he puts on like the DVD instructional video and he just leaves it on repeat and later on they're just repeating every word because they memorized it. That's kind of how I imagine it to be. Probably, yeah. But then you get into this big thing where the night lords are obviously going for a raid on Ganges
Starting point is 00:07:31 and so they do something called the screech which is basically turns off most to all communication, even lighting back on through the station, and also just puts out a high-pitched, like, human scream, like a chorus of yelling, blaring through the loudspeakers across the entire station, because local best boy Septimus was a fucking undercover, like, double agent in the station the whole time for two. A whole time, whole time. I also love that when they were doing the screech, just as it started, Marouk was just about to fall asleep, finally get some rest, and then,
Starting point is 00:08:15 Bha-hah! Poor Maru- Poor Maruque. Borg has a bad time. And then the Covenant of Blood is doing, what is it? It's not a slow burn, but they've just been drifting on like no power into Ganges, so they wouldn't be detected, I think, right? Yeah, because they basically do very slow, like, go to the edge of the system, do a little bit of propulsion, but then, like, you know, because it's space.
Starting point is 00:08:38 There's no thing, there's nothing to stop you. So they're slowly drifting. Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, then they were able to obviously take the station, took all the slaves. We now have our new human character, Maruk, which is arguably one of the better, one of my more favorite parts of this book. He's kind of your, space bring books are always the best when there's a human character that centers around it. because it shows the disconnect between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Septimus is great, but he is kind of already lost. Oh, definitely. He's already given in to heresy. Yeah, and then Octavia is kind of a posh noble and a navigator. So Maraqa's just this old man manufacturer, and he's like
Starting point is 00:09:24 walking around the covenant, like, what the hell is going on? Also, when the night lord's first got to Ganji Station and they turned off all the heating oh like you you really get an idea of how savage the fucking night lords are
Starting point is 00:09:43 as like Marouk and like the little group that he's leading are trying to like make their way into the storerooms to get some food and it's just like wall-to-wall bodies
Starting point is 00:09:53 that have been frozen to the floor and it's just like oh yeah and he was talking about how he would constantly piss himself because it was to keep himself warm yeah he was like there was enough
Starting point is 00:10:04 Other guy that like pissed himself out of fear and Rook was like, well, at least when I did it was just to keep warm. Yeah, I was like, yes, stupid man. Pussy. I've noticed a really interesting thing that Aaron Dembski Bowden does when he writes. When he's writing about specific characters, his tone of writing tends to change. So, for example, if he's talking about Talos or something, right? There's kind of this very grim, dower way he does the writing for him. But then when you go to Maruk, for instance,
Starting point is 00:10:37 when he's writing about things in Maruk's perspective, he'll use slaying like piss and shit. Like the floor was covered in piss. Where if he was like probably talking about Talos, he'd probably say like urine and fecal matter. That's true. His language is kind of different when he talks with different characters. It's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah. And it's a good way to keep everything nice and immersive too. Because if you're from Talos' perspective, he really shouldn't be. using slang and if you're Maruk you absolutely should be using slang so that's a plus that I wasn't really thinking about yeah
Starting point is 00:11:11 Talas's slang would be like no strawman slang which is plenty of that but um plenty but the the main deal after the Ganges rate kind of goes with the there's a little bit of interesting lore on the covenant
Starting point is 00:11:26 um the the voidborn the young child got sought in half yeah at the end a soul hunter, and so the father, Akir, I think was his name. Something like that. He's understandably very
Starting point is 00:11:42 upset. And she also had the coin, which means protection. And that didn't work. Yeah, wasn't that the big reason that Akir was like really mad? Was because like, hey, you gave my daughter the void born the coin. You were supposed to protect
Starting point is 00:11:58 her. You didn't. What the fuck? It's just bullshit. And my wife is dead. it. Yes, that's right. She also died. It kind of gives you a little bit of an interesting perspective because if you look at the Imperium perspective, like the Blaine Angels
Starting point is 00:12:12 will gladly tear through civilians because they're heretics. Oh yeah, they're on a heretic ship. They're on a chaos ship. They're absolutely criminals in the eyes of the Imperium, yeah. Yeah, like, oh look, little children, little heretics you mean? The flavor.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Little demons. It's It's interesting because if you were to ever have a book from the Imperium perspective, you probably, they probably would just do that and not really care. Yeah. And then you look at this way, you're like, oh, that's rough. Yeah, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It's like, wow, the Imperium's really evil. And the Imperium's like, no, we're great. There's a lot of, a lot of back and forth going on with the crew in that way. Septimus is trying to kind of calm everyone down. Yeah, yeah. And Akir is obviously rather, rather upset and angry. but and he dies pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Oh yeah he does. Not by... Not by Talos. We technically don't know who. Yeah, we don't know, but it is heavily implied that we know who did it. Fucking Oozas.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Fucking Oozass. Because Ouzas goes on a bit of a chaotic rampage where like he thinks he's in, what is he thinks he's ripping, like, guardsmen, like generals and stuff. I was going to say, he thinks he's killing like Imperium and he thinks he's in like a church or something, right? And he's like, oh my God, I have to rip them apart and eat them.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. And then he like snaps out of it and he's like, oh, oh, oh, I'm in the covenant of blood. Oh, no, I did it again. It's actually really interesting because it shows that he is legit. legitimately hallucinating. Yeah. Because corn has, because he constantly makes this idea that
Starting point is 00:14:06 he praise and stuff to corn for their power, but he hates them. Yeah. Which I bet is what it started off as. But, you know, it kind of wormed his way into him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But it was interesting to see him have this, like, he hallucinating himself having this glorified, this, I'm a hero. Look as I, as I, as I, kill the enemies of man, when in reality he's just slaughtering people and killed, I think, two nightlords? Yeah, he does. He does kill a couple of nightlords. He kills, um, it was funny because like when they, when they finally catch ooze, and I think they either, what, did they chain him to the wall or, like, pin him to the wall or something? They chain him to the, uh, like the operating slab in the apothecarium.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Right. Um, they said, um, they said, um, They said the night lord that he killed, and it was like the leader of like third claw or something. And his name was, um, what was it? It was like, Tor. Oh, uh, Del Caris. Del Carrey. No, that's the one that takes over, right? Oh, oh, yes, that's the one that takes over.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Sorry. Um, I don't remember the one he killed, but he was also corrupted by Corrin. But it was like, his name was like Torz, Zarl. And I was like, whoa, what? Did he? What? No, he, there's no way Uza's killed Zarl. And then I had to like, listen to it again.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I was like, oh, no. his name, that Tor is his first name. Oh, okay. Oh yeah, Tor is Zol. I think Zol, yeah. When I first said, I was like, wait, did he, did he say he just tore up Zorro? What? Man, man, no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:15:42 No one can tear up Zarl. He's too good. I was like, damn, this fool must have been completely possessed by corn if he did that. But then I listened to it again, I was like, oh, that's his, oh, okay. And then Zarl showed up, I was like, oh, this makes sense now.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Okay, cool. That led to a rather, unfortunate altercation with third claw. It was actually interesting because the Del Carus guy cheated in like a duel to gain the ability to lead third claw and he was trying to stop them from fighting first claw
Starting point is 00:16:14 and it didn't work. Yeah, he didn't want that and he got into a duel and when they were supposed to not use guns he was like fuck it, I'm just gonna bolter this fool. No, he's talking with a plasma pistol. Oh, that's right, it was a plasma pistol. You're right, I knew he used a gun. I thought it was a bolter. I guess that'd be a little extreme inside the, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:32 he bolt or the holes of the ship. Well, that probably wouldn't be great. Oh, oh, no, the plastic pistol is actually far worse. That would blow a hole in the ship. Oh. The plasma pistol,
Starting point is 00:16:41 it turned, it turned him to, it turned him to ash. Like, it, like, it turned his armor into ash. There was no salvage.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Oh, I forgot that. I, I didn't remember that. Holy shit. The bolter is like getting shot by a fully automatic small grenade launcher.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Right. So it hurts, but it's like, little explosions as opposed to yeah the plaza pistol is like fires the heat of the sun it's fucking nuts
Starting point is 00:17:06 damn that is significantly worse than shooting a bolt or in the ship oh yeah like oh it's far worse but he you know he was doing his thing yeah and that's right he wanted to completely be like no no no no we really don't want to fight
Starting point is 00:17:19 first claw this is let's just forget it whatever I'm the leader now you got to follow me don't do it and they're like nah don't be the bitch and then they do and then they have their classic first claw we have come for you, line. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I like some of the little voxing between Talos and Del Caris when he's saying like, yeah, we have seven, you have four, and it's like five if I unchained Usas. Yep. That's still less than seven.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's like, yeah, but I have Zorro. He's like, that's a good point. That's right. Shit. Fucking God. And it actually, he does unchained Usas
Starting point is 00:17:53 and Usas does fight alongside them, which is... Yeah, they kill all of them. Yeah. And then, Delcarus tries to join First Claw, which I was actually kind of sad that Talos said no. Yeah, I was kind of hoping he'd be like, well, you did put up a good fight and, you know, all that. And then when he killed him, I was just like, oh.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. The cars was starting to grow on me. I was like, oh, come on. It made, I liked, it was like both sides of things where I liked, he was growing on me too, but at the same time, I need to remember that Talos isn't, like, he should. shows a lot more restrained than most night lords, but he's still not a, like,
Starting point is 00:18:35 a very nice guy. Yeah, he's still pretty evil. He's still pretty evil. That battle fucked them up, though. Oh, yes, it did. Because, I mean, like, they had repaired their armor somewhat after the
Starting point is 00:18:53 Blood Angels invasion. And then after they were, you know, after they killed off all of Third Club, they were all fucked up again. And, like, Talos' helmet was, like, battered, his armor was fucked. And, yeah, that was, that was, uh, that, yeah, that fucked him up. I think that's a good way to describe it, sure. I mean, they had to wade through bolter shells.
Starting point is 00:19:12 That was their thing. Oh, yeah. And this is why they were all messed up, and Talos's entire face was just blood and scars. Oh, that's right. He looked awful. And then he went to, uh, oh, and then we get introduced. Oh, well, there's two characters we got introduced to. One I forgot.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I can't believe I forgot it. We got introduced to our man, hound. Oh, of course, hound, mistress. A creepy, like, elderly five, four foot six, five foot zero little man with his eyes sewn shut and a little sought off shotgun. Yeah, he's, when they first described him, I was like, oh, God, all I could think of was like a, creepier version of like Igor with Frankenstein. That's a very good comparison, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. It's just, it's just, oh, he's so creepy. Like, that, you know, you know what I, I picture him as? Like, that's like the personification of when someone calls you a simp. Right? Mistress, mistress, mistress,
Starting point is 00:20:20 will feet, show feet, misdress. Hound totally has a foot fetish. You know he does. I really enjoy just some of the small parts where it's like, yes, mistries, follow, mistress. And it's like, shut up. Yes, mistress, no talking anymore, mistress. Quiet time, mistress.
Starting point is 00:20:44 He's like, oh, no, he doesn't get it. It's kind of weird, though. He sounds more decrepit in the beginning of the book. He acts more normal later on. Yeah. I don't know. That's just maybe he got used to her or whatever, but. It's weird because his eyes are completely sewn shut.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's so strange. And he can, and he still, like, can see? Maybe it's like, you know, his other senses have picked up so much because he doesn't have his eyesight anymore that, like, you know, he can hear stuff, he can smell stuff. And I don't know. It's a creepy little, little shit. But at the same time, he's very lovable. He's a surprisingly large amount of comic relief. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And there's a part later on where Octavia rolls. like a coin across the room and Hound just like runs that like a little dog and he's like ooh coin here you go. Yeah he's fetching she's fetching with with Hound but yeah at the start of the book he's like it's like oh god Hound is creepy and I'm kind of like I'm with Octavia
Starting point is 00:21:41 it's like oh god Hound shut the fuck go away but by the end of the book it's like oh I kind of like Hound he's strangely lovable we'll get to that no doubt we'll get to that for sure but we all
Starting point is 00:21:57 Also, after the battle with Third Claw, we get introduced to Lecoraphus of the bleeding eyes. Ah, the Raptors. The Raptor. I think Lecoraphrus really comes into his own in the third book. There's a lot more, there's a lot of him, but he's got this weird thing where, so, okay, Raptors back in the day are a little different than Raptors now. Okay. So there's a unit called a Raptor you can take in game, but Raptors,
Starting point is 00:22:27 Raptors now are more like regular chaos space marines that just happen to have jet packs. Right. There's also a unit called a warp talon, which is like a demonic version of a raptor. Lecoraphrus is kind of in, is like in the middle. He's got the dumb, like the taint has kind of hit him. That's why he's all weird. Yeah. But he's not quite like a demon.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Right. So he like strides around on all fours. You know, he talks in this very like, like, like. kind of condory, like his neck cracks and twitches and stuff. He has like a bird look. He's kind of a dick. Yeah, he is kind of a dick. He talked to that one calm officer, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:23:10 hello, human, I am Lucoraphas. What is your name? And the guy's like, oh, my God. Oh, this is awful. Get away from me. I love the way the other raptors talk with that. Like, yes, yes, yes, we'll open, yes, yes, yes, yes. Must feed, yes, yes, I'm the hunt, soar.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah, the raptors are dope, especially when you actually get to see them in combat, and, boy, raptors are savage. Yeah, they're, they eat people a lot. Yeah, they do. There's that one moment towards the end of the book where, like, Luke Corifus is lunging at the guy he's fighting, and he's just like, I will eat your eyes! And it's like, whoa, dial it back just a notch, dude. Dial the night lord's back?
Starting point is 00:23:57 No, certain. Yeah, you got pumped that up to 30. Jesus. I like Lucorapus. He's an interesting character. He's creepy, but I like how his little pack of the bleeding eyes, there's like 30 of them or whatever, and they're just all kind of there, like,
Starting point is 00:24:14 me, mhm, giggle and snicker and like, and have like weird condor, like, neat, nests. Lots of like, kind of sounds with, like, whirring joints. really feral. It's cool. Oh yeah. They're definitely like a feral sort of hunting pack. For sure.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Birds of prey, if you will. There's actually a great moment after the fight where Talos is kind of succumbing to his wounds in the corridor. After leaving with a meeting with the Exalted about like hey, we're gonna, let's
Starting point is 00:24:49 fix our ranks. Exalted's like, I want to fucking fight more, you know? Yeah. And when he's leaving, it's kind of interesting because he's on the calm, on the Vox, and he's trying to get people's help, because he's basically dying in the corridor. Yeah. And he's like, A, Syrian, Mercutian.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And I really like, I really like the small moment that they had in the writing where it said Talos did something that completely surprised him, and he asked for Zarl. And I was like, these guys were friends growing up, quote, unquote. And he just doesn't want to even vox him. Like he refuses. Yeah. Well, yeah, they were as close as you could be friends on. Estromo.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Is this the book where they talk about, uh, um... His mom? His mom. It is. Boy, that's a big depressy. Yes, that's depresso espresso. But you know, you know who finds him in that hallway was Uzaz. Yeah, good old Uzaz finds him.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Mm-hmm. That was, that was a good part. Because Usas was like, was clear. Yeah, he has a few of those moments in this book where he finds moments of clarity and Talas is like shocked, but he's like, man, I miss that. Yeah, it's actually quite sad because he'll say something really profound and they're like, wait, Uzaz, what did you say? He's like, well, blood for blood? Yeah, it's kind of weird. Usas had as many moments of clarity as he did moments of savagery in this book.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah, he does actually. you're right. They even had a flashback during the Battle of Terra when Usas was the sergeant of a squad with a bolter Malcari and himself
Starting point is 00:26:37 gave to him as a gift and he's like a hero. It's really sad. Yeah, it's kind of sad to see what chaos has dwindled Uzass down to, just a sort of bloodthirsty
Starting point is 00:26:53 savage. When he used to be like, you know. I mean, as noble as nightlords can get, but this this strong warrior. There's a lot of that. The punching bag for everyone when he gets out of the line. There's a lot of that good backstory,
Starting point is 00:27:09 which is why I like this one so much. Like, you learn more about Mercutian. You learn he was kind of a rich boy. Like a gang leader's son, basically. And Zorro keeps on giving him shit for it. As he should. Should he? Well, Zaharl much better?
Starting point is 00:27:29 I mean, on the strommel, as far as they're concerned, as far as night lords are concerned, well, maybe not. I don't know. Maybe not. We do get that, we do get that backstory of Talas and Zara as kids, though. Boy, that's so fucked. That was, that was rough. That's so rough when they're, when they're, what they're walking by a woman. that's getting abused. Yep, those words.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, we'll just say abused. It's worse than that, but we'll just say she's being abused. And Talos is just watching it happen. And Sorrel is just like, hey, hey, hey, hey, you can't, you can't watch that. Just keep moving along. What are you doing? It's not like you're going to save her. It's not even that they're going to, they can try to help.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's literally like, don't watch. They'll see your face and then they'll kill you. Yeah. It's self-preservation. instead of any form of good. Yeah. And then, oh God, and then when they get to Talos's house. His mom is tattooed up with her owners.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yep. Her sleeve is rolled up with a tattoo. And they're like, oh, yeah, that's her slave owner. It's like, oh. And it's like, oh, you've got to answer your questions so that maybe the Legion will take you because you're a smart boy. And it's, I think Talos had a quote in this,
Starting point is 00:28:54 one where Octavia asked him why he became a space marion. He's like, I wanted to be a hero. Look how that turned out. Oh, yeah. Talos's backstory is really sad. Isn't his mom a slave prostitute? She's a gang whore is what he says. Oh, that's right. Dude, there was a part when it's like, yeah, she was 30 and she looked 60 because she was a gang's horror and he said he thought she was diseased
Starting point is 00:29:26 and when he said that the first time I read the book I was like, oh, she had cancer like no she had AIDS she probably had everything. And a lot of things. She had lots of STDs like oh that's what you mean.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Nistraman gang horror she unfortunately probably had everything you could get which is sad. That's really sad. And then and then you look back at the first book when you realized she got shot by a guard when she was trying to see him when he was a Marine
Starting point is 00:30:00 remember? That's right and he and that's right because doesn't isn't Zara like hey uh how are you doing? Tallas is like what the fuck are you talking about? He's like you know that that that woman that got shot right in front of you and don't you remember and he's like who the fuck was that? He's like really
Starting point is 00:30:16 Tala really? He's like yeah who the fuck was that? I don't know who that was he's like it's your fucking mom and he's like, oh, was it? Really? Hmm. Oh, well. It's a great way to show the dehumanizing of the Marines as they, like how far they are from humanity and from emotions and all that.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Mm-hmm. It's really, it's really interesting and quite, quite sad. The whole part, the whole part with the fucking, with his mom was really sad. Oh, God. It hit a lot harder the second read. I got to be honest. Yeah. It's, just thinking about it, it's just like, oh, God, like, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Estromo, night lords, space marines, all that is just so sad. Like, God. But they, um, past that, they're, the main goal, the main part of the book is, basically their ship is mega-fucked. Because, for all the reasons it already was, and Octavia is apparently not a good sailor. No, she's not. That's right. She's flying the ship apart. They need to dock at Hell's Iris.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Oh, yes. The region of the Red Corsairs. Formerly the Astralclaw, right? Indeed. They were part of the Badab War, which was also part of the Lamenters. We talked about that a bit ago. The Astroclah were the Lamenters only friends. Then they went to chaos, and then nobody trusted the Lamenters. And you get your good leader man, Huron.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Blackheart. Blackheart. What a... And they are full pirates. This is a pirate faction. With his fucking monkey. With his weird psychic monkey, his port city. And one of my favorite...
Starting point is 00:32:07 And then one of my favorite jokes on the whole book, when Septimus and Marook are at a bar, and Marouk is seeing a hot piece of ass across the way. And he's like, hey, come over here. And she walks up to him and says, some weird shit in a different language with a weird snake tongue. And Septimus points at his pistol
Starting point is 00:32:27 and he's like fuck off or whatever. And he's like, I thought damn, what the hell, Septimus? I thought she wanted to bang and he's like, she did. Look at her dress though. It's not leather. She would have skingy afterwards. And then he says the best thing in the
Starting point is 00:32:43 whole book where she's like, I want to leave. That's right. I want to and who can blame him? I don't want to be here anymore. This place is not good. I really like that. It's such a genuine...
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's like an event horizon when they watch the video of all the people like going mad. And then Lawrence Fishburn... Wait, is Lawrence Fishburn? I think he is in that, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it's Lawrence Fishburn. He's just like, we're leaving. It's such a good response.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's like, I don't want to be here anymore. Oh, yeah, that's... It's so funny. The Red Corsair, kind of fucked. We get introduced to what might be my favorite character in the first claw, which is Vario.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Vario, yep. Vario, the flair. The sort of, I mean, I guess he's a doctor. He's a... He's an apothecary. Oh, that's right, that's right. And, like, the first interaction we get with him is, like, he could have saved a Red Corsair,
Starting point is 00:33:51 but he was like, ah, fuck him. I got other things to do this would take too much time. And nobody lets him forget it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 But then he skinned his face and put it on his paltry. Oh, God. I don't know how I forgot that part. We're here for callous or whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's like, oh, there he is. He points to his shoulder. Oh, I don't know how I forgot that. Oh, he skits the man.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Oh, God. And I mean, well, I mean, I guess that's, that's, that's fitting. Um, and there's so many times we're like, you know, you could have saved him, right? And he's like, yeah, so. But I didn't.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He's like, yeah, whatever. So, let's move on. Don't, don't worry about it. It's like, okay. He's such a, he's such like, he has, he's basically Hannibal Lecter. Yeah, you know, he basically is. Like, he even talks in that sort of like really hoity, toy-ty refined way too.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah, he doesn't blink ever, pretty much. What a creeper. He barely ever blinks and not only does he barely ever blink but he talks and he kind of, he never laughs
Starting point is 00:35:10 really? It's true he doesn't. I guess he never does, does he right. Well, he does once, but he never smiles either. What a fucking creeper. Yeah, he's incredibly weird. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Fits right in with first call. Fits right in with first call. Is this around the time where they... So when did they realize that the Red Corsair had the echo of damnation? Because I'm kind of forgetting when exactly they were like, okay, the Red Corser had the echo of damnation. And I hate to break it to you guys. we need to take that thing back. Yeah, it's when they scanned
Starting point is 00:35:56 the venomous birthright and they were like, oh, this is actually the echo of damnation. And so the goal is work with the Red Corsairs and here on Blackheart to get the gene seed vaults on Willemus,
Starting point is 00:36:11 which was a fortress monastery for the Marines errant, I believe. Yeah, Marines' errand, for sure. And so night lords were being used In a weird way, Huron was actually quite a convincing guy. He was rather like, he's scary, but he's very, I don't know. He understands morale.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He's better to convince people than fucking Abadon was. Oh, that's not exactly saying much. No, it is not. Abidon is just pure fear, right? Like, if you don't obey me, I'm just going to, you're dead. Yeah, I'm sure he's got some charisma, but he didn't great. But that was the whole idea. And the Knight Lord's job was to destabilize the core and cause problems for the main Red Corsair strike group.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah. And during this time, they also find out that good old Huron has an old friend of theirs. Oh, right. He does. Roovin. Roovin. And moving. has been, has been like gouged and, and blinded and can't do any psychic powers and been
Starting point is 00:37:30 tortured for like months. Yeah, that's right. They have like a, did they have like a spotlight on him or is it just natural light that's on him? And it's just, he's like, I can't see this fucking light. It's just. The entire, the entire room is like pure white. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah. So it burns that out. And he also has like an anti-psychic power. color and he's been chained up and he's been barely kept alive with like glasses of water. Yeah. He's, oh boy. And he deserves it. Fuck him. Right?
Starting point is 00:38:01 Fuck, Ruvin. He's a, he's a bitch traitor. Riven, well, he's been traitor twice, but Yeah, twice. That's right. He, he was traitor to the night lords and then he betrayed, well, did he betray Abedon? Did Abedon just be like, ah, you're useless?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Dink. Abidon was like, you're useless, dink. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because the big plan, right, the big plan, because they wanted the echo of damnation back, was do the thing on Villamus, leave, take over the echo with Varioelior. Yep. And then jump both the ships using Octavia on the echo and Vario on the Covenant. Not Vario, sorry, Ruvin on the Covenant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And so they had to part with Ruvan or to get Ruvian for them. that. Yep. Yeah, they bargained to get Ruvon, right? They did, what did they give?
Starting point is 00:38:57 They gave him something. I don't quite remember what it was, but they gave him something important. Yeah, to get Ruvin
Starting point is 00:39:02 out of the, uh, their imprisonment. I, I will admit, as much as Ruvon's a shithead, I, I will say that
Starting point is 00:39:12 his reasoning for betraying is pretty understandable. Remind me again. He has this, he has this like, I was, sick and tired of being a stagnant legion
Starting point is 00:39:24 in a stagnant world. I wanted to win the fucking war and the night lords weren't doing it. Abadon is. Right. That's that's right. Okay. I remember that reasoning now. It's basically the reasoning of a lot of Black Legion people. Yeah. And so it's it's nice to have that because in a sense I kind of think he's right. Yeah. At least
Starting point is 00:39:48 Abadon is trying to win the war. least he's making black crusades. At least he's trying to kill the Imperium, whereas like the night lords are kind of just happy sticking in the shadows, hitting and running every so often. But they're not really thinking about actually conquering anything. They're not really actually thinking about toppling the Imperium, whereas at least Abidon, he's doing stuff. He is doing stuff. Talos has these like, quote unquote, delusions of grandeur for it. but he can't really act on it because he's just a guy
Starting point is 00:40:24 as opposed to say the Exalted or whoever. But the Exalted even wanted to start doing better. He even was like, I want to go back to the glory days. Yeah, yeah. But the whole battle on Villamis was very, very fun. Oh, God. There's lots of good murder, lots of good flaying. I has another great moment with the Terminator's.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yep. I, uh, the, before we get to that, the moment I remember is like, uh, they, they go through, um, one of the people that's working in like, I don't know if it's the library or something. And they're talking about, I was like, oh, I wanted to be a space marine, but I just couldn't hack it on the physical test. So now I'm serving here and that should be good enough. And I've been working with this elderly dude. Uh, and then he goes to check on the elderly dude and he finds his corpse with the eyeballs down its throat. Talos fucking grabs him and just rips him apart and tells him not to scream and it's like oh it's yeah he's got doing little sneaky Batman shit basically and during this whole time Lucorapis and his boys are like ripping apart generators and all of his raptor friends are like and I just don't know prey raptor no yes yes yes I kill people why why do this it's like kill the jet just get rid of the generators it's fine yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes um um it's
Starting point is 00:41:48 a great moment hereon teleports in with a bunch of Terminators and on the end of the corridor they see a bunch of Marines errant setting up positions and Mercutian says something in Nostromo that equivalates to oh shit and they just start getting hailed on by Bolterfire and I really like I really really like when all of the night lords are hiding behind the Terminators oh that's right they are and it's like fight you fucking night lord bastards and they're all giggling. They're all just giggling like children behind them. Yeah, like, come on, fight, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:42:26 And they're just cackling back there and not returning fire and, yeah. It's really, it's really good. That whole thing is fun. They're Terminators. It's fine. Don't worry about it. It is a very, very fun time. I find it incredibly endearing. But post that is when they get all of the, they do all their, their big betrayal.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Which is a pretty crazy finale. You started off with hound, Maruk. Oh, well, no. Wait, I want to back this up a little bit. Okay. There's the part where Riven confronts Septimus. Oh, right. That's a really interesting scene.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah. Because he goes in there, and he's basically like, What's up? Slaves. Sure sucks being. a slave, doesn't it? Pretty cringe. And by the way, I killed
Starting point is 00:43:24 the second slave. Tihihaha, fuck you. That's right. We finally get to find out what happened to the Secundus. Yeah, Ruben killed us ass. Tals wasn't want to talk about it. But yeah, Ruben fucking killed him. And doesn't Ruvan also say that like,
Starting point is 00:43:40 because Septimus doesn't believe him. He's like, what? You're so full of shit. If you did that, Tallas would have fucked you two ways from Sunday. And Riven was like, he tried, but he's a bitch. And I stopped him. And it's like, oh, what? Excuse me?
Starting point is 00:43:58 And then it was something like Talo's promise to like get him, get revenge on him for killing the secondus, right? Yeah, which, but of course, then Ruvan left the Legion. So at that point it was whatever. Yeah. But it was quite endearing to see Septimus have two pistols. Maruk with a lasgun Hound with a double-barreled shotgun and Octavia with an eye
Starting point is 00:44:21 all be like fuck off Octavia just with an eye Just with an eye It's like Misters told you to leave Oh Mourke has a really good
Starting point is 00:44:35 Like the lady asked you to leave Got that deep old British accent I like Ruvan Because he's standing there He's like I'm not angry I'm just surprised surprised. Like all that this whole like none of this would even hurt me.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Maybe the I would. But like none of this means anything. And but wow. I actually kind of liked that Ruben was there. Like yes, he's a shithead. Yes, he's a traitor. Yes, you're obviously supposed to hate him. But it's it's kind of nice to have that sort of like villainous sniffling like douchebag character.
Starting point is 00:45:16 to just sort of even everything because everybody's kind of, you know, getting along and everybody's kind of happy. I mean, yeah, there's ooze, but it's kind of nice to have Roovin there to really just be like, ooh. It's great when you have someone you can really hate.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah, there's that slimy motherfucker. Yeah. That is always wonderful to have. But that gives a great moment because Maruk is talking to Septimus and Septimus is like, I never fucking did this before. Like, I was always just a nice slave. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And it's like, you got a, You got a woman you want to, you like my dude, my son. You got a, you got something to fight for it now. And now you're realizing that there's more to life. Yep. Now you feel like a heretic. Yeah, it's really kind of cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's, it's quite, it's quite nice. He also makes a good point. He's like, I'm going to go after Octavia. It's like, you're telling me that she was taken by four criminals for four hours. Then she doesn't want you near her right now. Oh, man. Um. There was, I don't remember exactly when it happened.
Starting point is 00:46:21 But as we were talking about hound, there's a great, there's a great hound moment. It was, I think they had picked up some people from Ganji Station, and they were acting a fool. This is like right after Septimus got the Las Canon that he gave to Maruk. Las Gun. Las Gun. A las cannon kills tanks. Oh, a little bit of difference. The last canon is the length of you head to toe.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Oh, wow. But, yeah, there was a, and Septimus was going to go take care of the problem causers, but Tal's was like, no, no, no, this, I got this. And they string the guys up outside of Octavia's door, and their guts are hanging out, and their intestines are hanging out, and their intestines are hanging out and Octavia looks at and she's like Oh and Hound is confused by like He thought she didn't know what it was and he's like oh
Starting point is 00:47:23 Those are intestines Oh great and she's like yeah Thanks I got that and he's like don't eat Them And he says with these sage Words of experience The sage like wisdom of experience And I was like oh
Starting point is 00:47:40 That was so fun Thanks hound Oh gosh Hound has so many moments like that that are just like, oh no, but it's, he's still such a likable, like you're like a little puppy dog. It really is. Puppy dog. Yeah. Though, I mean, we're even talking about this for quite a while at this point.
Starting point is 00:48:04 We, uh, we got so much more, uh, fuck it, we'll keep going. Yeah, fuck. Um, but then they, they do the big, big heist, basically. It's basically a heist. Oh, yeah. Um, and this is. One of the parts I kind of, I mentioned a couple of times
Starting point is 00:48:19 I think Octavia isn't written perfectly. It could be a problem with the voice acting. Because the voice acting is incredible, but she's very breathy and a little whiny sounding. Yeah, yeah. And that's, it could be different if I had a different voice in my head when I,
Starting point is 00:48:37 if I read it. Yeah, I think his voice for Octavia isn't great. Yeah, it's a little, it's a little weak. compared to the rest. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:48:48 However, Octavia jumps, so they get to the echo of a damnation with a boarding paw with First Claw after Vario has spaced the remaining Red Croceres in a pretty hardcore little move.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Yeah, he does. And then they make their way to the navigation chamber. Marook Septimus, Hound, Octavia, and First Claw. Yeah. And they find Esmeralda. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And, and she, I guess she's, she's in like a little. Navigator bath water. Yo, love. Oh, God. Yeah, it's like a, it's like a nutrient rich bath to help with navigation. But she's been like, she can't get out of it, though. The whole ship is fucking, like, pirity. It smells like crap.
Starting point is 00:49:40 It's covered in, like, actual waste. But she is, is, is. like decrepit and and slightly chaos tainted yep um and and whatever whatever that navigator bathwater is like she she can't get out like she can't get out of it so not only is it whatever nutrient rich whatever used to be in there it's like sewage water at this point like it's got all of her like it's mostly piss and stuff yeah shit in it so it might have been nutrient rich at some point but now it's basically just raw sewage. Yeah, it's gross.
Starting point is 00:50:19 It sounds so disgusting. Like as soon as they enter the room, they're like overcome by it. Like even hound looks disgusted, which is Hmm. We're just saying something for a man who, if he was telling the truth is over 10,000 years old. Yeah. The warp is fucky.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah. And naturally, Esmeralda's a little kooky. Yep. It's just a little cookie. It was interesting because I forgot about this. Nobody was looking at Morelda besides Octavia because they can't because the eye.
Starting point is 00:50:49 The eye, that's right. They would die. Which is why Talos was like, can we use her? Because he can't see her. Yeah. And once she said no, they all just boltered her to death.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, there's no using her. That's for sure. You're not. Mm-mm. I was worried that Octavia was going to have to get in that sludge and pilot from there. I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:11 oh man, you thought her piloting was bad before. Yeah. He put her in that fucking suit. and she ain't going to pilot you anywhere where you need to be. Which is actually interesting because she does pilot the ship to get away
Starting point is 00:51:25 from the Red Corsair fleet, but she fucks up the mark. Yeah. And so the covenant of blood jumps in the correct area with Ruvim, but they're gone. Yeah, they go way far off. I think she said it was because the other navigator
Starting point is 00:51:40 wasn't great to the ship, and the machine spirit wasn't a big fan. And now that like Octavia, had control, it was like a wild stallion that just wanted to fucking run, and it was like super hard to control the ship. Yeah, this is one of the, part of the reason why
Starting point is 00:51:56 I think she isn't written great is because this is now twice in the same book, a major plot point has occurred because of her inexperience. Yeah. Like, they shook the ship apart, they need to go to Hells Iris, and now there's this thing. And small spoiler, it happens again in the
Starting point is 00:52:12 third book. Oh. So it's a little bit much They rely on Octavia's lack of skill a lot, which at the same time, like, she's a fucking slave. Her life sucks. I shouldn't be that mean to her, but I feel like it's almost a little bit of a crutch. Well, I mean, it is a bit of a crutch, but in all fairness, she hasn't really been a navigator for that long. Like, I mean, she was a navigator for that little whatever ship that used to be on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:43 But, like, this is the first time she's had, like, a full-blown. a Starty's vessel to pilot, right? So, I can still see her not being great. I don't know about three books worth, though. That sounds like a little much. Like maybe like the first time when she flies the ship apart and they have to go to Hells Iris. And I could see being in a new ship, how she's kind of like, oh shit, like this thing is wonky and weird and I couldn't control it and boop. But yeah, third time, I don't know. Third time seems a little overkill. I'm okay with the the first two times because, you know, it's Octavia.
Starting point is 00:53:19 She's not used to it yet. She's not used to all this heresy. Yeah, that's true. But with the travel, though, a couple of things happened. One, there were some more Red Corsairs on the whole. They were trying to blast their way back in. Most of them, after they jumped into the warp, were just ripped into fucking pieces
Starting point is 00:53:41 by psychic energy and the souls of the damned. Yeah, they're very descriptive about. how that happens too. It's... Yeah, I guess what was Vario's idea. And even Talus was like, fuck, man. Yeah, when even the nightler's like,
Starting point is 00:53:54 yo, dude, a little extreme. But then there came this one guy. One captain. Yeah, one survivor. Survivor who... Air quotes.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Who appears to... I'm not quite sure exactly, but I believe he became something called a well he was possessed by Nergel basically yeah he was over he was possessed by chaos yeah Nergel basically possessed his bastard
Starting point is 00:54:25 ass and because of that he got a bunch of warp powers and began to fuck up the ship and fuck up the bleeding eyes yeah he started fucking up raptors yeah and he started eating them
Starting point is 00:54:41 yeah that's a very chaosy Nergel thing to do sure It is a very Cassy thing. Actually, in case you're curious, this is a corn version, this is kind of what a possessed looks like. Little,
Starting point is 00:54:53 like the big, big claw, you know. That's sick. Yeah, I think he's a possessed. I don't know if there's a different variant for what you would call him,
Starting point is 00:55:03 but he is actually a pretty nasty force. He makes his way into the ship and Uzaz's standing garb, and he just fucking one taps him. Yeah, he one shots him. ooze, and he just knocks him out. I was like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Everybody inside that navigator's room is fucked. If he one-shot Uzaz, I don't know what anybody else is going to do about him, because that's... Because Zorro left to go fight him. That's right, because the dude can like... ...that he was messing up the ship.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, and he like kind of phased through walls a couple times because of his warp powers. And he got his way to the next. navigator room, which I guess we didn't mention earlier that Octavia accidentally killed somebody with her third eye, and that caused Uzaz to kill like a
Starting point is 00:55:55 demonic apparition of Delcarus. That's right. That was an old thing. No blood, no skull, no blood, no skull. He was not happy that he was forced to kill the aberration of Delcarus because there was no blood for the blood god and no skulls for the skull throne. But another moment of Usas being like,
Starting point is 00:56:17 yo, he helped. Yeah, that's true. He helped. But the... They hold that against Octavia for a while because she invited chaos to sort of like follow them or something, right? Because when you kill with the I, the Neverborn, which is just basically demons,
Starting point is 00:56:34 kind of get like your scent. Right, right, right. But, yeah, so this giant Nergel dude busts his way into the fucking room. And then all you have is Maruk. Septimus Hound and Octavia, and they just start laying into him with last guns and stuff, but it's doing jack all. Yeah, as it should. Like, there's no reason that they should really be able to do that much damage to, like, essentially a Chaos Space Marine.
Starting point is 00:57:01 A possessed Chaos Space Marine with a cloud of flies so big, it's taking shots. Yeah. Which leads me to my least favorite part of this entire book. where Maruk is fighting the possessed guy He can't stand the horrible Nurgle smell He throws up And then he gets grabbed by the leg Enhales a bunch of flies
Starting point is 00:57:26 And gets flung into the wall So hard his head turns in a mist Oh Yeah, it's interesting We talked about this Like It wasn't until we talked about it That I for some reason
Starting point is 00:57:39 I don't know if I just didn't register it I didn't realize that Marouc died in this fight. I didn't know either. I read Voidstalker and I was like, where's Marook? And I looked at the Wiki and it's like, he died. Yeah. Like you told me that and I was like, wait, no. I was expecting more Marooke and Voidstocker. I liked Maruk a lot actually. And he just gets fucking slammed. A welcome to the gym, right? Space Jam, Nergel edition. It was really bizarre. And because I reread that part because I wanted to make sure it wasn't stupid or I wasn't stupid and the words are almost
Starting point is 00:58:18 specifically split his head open on the wall but the word the word phrase split your head open is a common phrase for having a big gash in your head. Yeah yeah yeah I guess he meant literally turned it into like a paste
Starting point is 00:58:36 and then it was so... Maybe that's what it was I was thinking maybe there was just like a big gash that went down his head instead of just literal head eruption. Yeah, and it was also so incredibly, like, unceremonious. Yeah. And that's entirely because, well, right after that, he grabs our good boy hound, lifts him up, and hound with his just pure patience, just waits,
Starting point is 00:59:09 and then sticks his double-barreled in the dudes, in mouth and just blows his back of his head off. Yep, yep. And then he gets thrown at the wall with like the force of a baseball. Yep. And breaks every bone in his body. And poor hound. Poor hound. And then doesn't
Starting point is 00:59:25 Usas break in and... He throws his chain axe at him? Yeah. And then I think Zarl arrives. Thank goodness. And then doesn't he like turn the chains to axe on? Yeah, you start like... I think Zarl
Starting point is 00:59:39 arrives after that too to help. I don't remember, but... I feel like by the time Zarl showed up, the, uh, they had already killed him. No, no, Zarl shows up. Zarl shows up. Um, who's just grabs Octavia by like the neck and, and starts running away with her. Oh, okay. And then they, and they lead the thing into the, into a room that has like 30 raptors in the air. Oh, right, right, right. That's the I will eat your eyeballs moment. Right. Yeah. And then they all like pounce it. It's and it. Yes, right. Oh, God, how'd I forget that? I literally referenced it at the beginning of this episode.
Starting point is 01:00:15 What the fuck? Lucorapus eats a lot, it's okay. He does. He eats a lot of eyeballs, yeah. But that whole, yeah, that whole fight was quite, I was surprised how much emotion I felt for a little mutant freak boy. I know, I was, and, well, it doesn't help that, like, as he's dying, like on his deathbed with Octavia, he's telling, Octavia how much she reminds him of her daughter that he used to have and it's like
Starting point is 01:00:46 stop man he's like oh no mistress it's raining and it's just her tears and you're like fuck dude it got me it got me a little teary eye when I reread it I was like shit this is fucking sad little little little creepy Einstein shut freaky boy and in reality they would have all died if he didn't shoot him in the back of the mouth
Starting point is 01:01:10 So it's like you full metal alchemist when Roy Mustang is crying and the ladies and he's like, oh look, it's raining and she's like, what? No, it's not. And he's like, it's boring. Oh, is that what that's from? Yeah, full metal. Is this name actually Roy Mustang? Yep. Roy Mustang's dope.
Starting point is 01:01:27 He snaps his finger and he summons fire, I think. That's cool and all, but that name is so like Southern Californian. Yeah, it is. I bet he drives a Mustang. He would. probably does. He would. But that makes it even more for why
Starting point is 01:01:42 Marook's death was so weird because hound's death took the show. Yeah, maybe that's why because all you remember is like, oh my God, not hound, hound, hound. It's like, uh, Marouc was in here somewhere, but it's like, oh, no, hound. Yeah, it's really weird.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Yeah. But during all of this, though, flip over to the other side, uh, the covenant of blood is under attack by everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Every Red Corsair ship is on their ass. They're doing a valiant job of surviving, though.
Starting point is 01:02:16 The Exalted is doing his thing. Yeah, he's killing a lot. He's flipping and spinning and... Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But Exalted is having to fend off Vandred. Right? In his mind, he's fighting off Vandred.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah. That was great because he was struggling with keeping up. in the Void War and so he had to keep reaching further and further and Vandred basically kind of grabbed him by the wrist and pulled him down to where he used to be Yep and he Vanjad took over his body again
Starting point is 01:02:50 and he's like oh my God What the fuck happened to me But there's some really like small details that are pretty great because he's talking with Talos over the Vox and you know he's talking about hey you know don't
Starting point is 01:03:06 don't sacrifice yourself I'll rather die and you'll be remembered Van Dred and he's like I prefer not to be Oh right, yep He even has the small part when he voxes the whole ship And he says this is the captain Instead of this is the exalted
Starting point is 01:03:22 It says that little detail Or it's like that's cool That's a great detail There were also a lot of little things When he was like Van Dred where like He wasn't used to his body Like he found it hard giving orders Because of how sharpened his teeth
Starting point is 01:03:38 teeth were. Or his giant arm claw thing. Those are nice little touches. Like he just really wasn't used to being a chaos demon. It's a nice little touch. It's good.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And at the end of it, basically all the survivors that could be surviving went and bailed, took escape pods over to the Echo of Damnation. And then after that it was
Starting point is 01:04:06 a... The boss moment. Big old, big old awesome moment where Vanjured's fucking around, killing everything, doing really good job. And right when he's about to die, he just kind of dips and he lets the exalted take its form again.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Just so he can have a last moment of death. Yep. Doesn't he say before he switches like, I hope you feel this. I hope this hurts. Yes. And then the shit, and the exalted just screaming,
Starting point is 01:04:34 howling. Oh, that was satisfying. It was incredibly satisfying. It was awesome to have Vandred kind of show why he was such a good leader or such a good like Void war guy and then just kind of pull out and then Bada boom.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Bada bha-bam. And then they said that the Atramentar were gone. They're not. There's no way. Yeah, they must have somehow gotten out. There's no way you got rid of like all of the night lord or I guess I mean the Atrementar Terminators have teleporters
Starting point is 01:05:10 They very much could have teleport onto like a Red Corsair ship And just beating the fuck out of them Yeah yeah yeah yeah okay So that's very possible Because there's some good atramenta Some of them are kind of dickheads But I think Malik Malik and Gerradoron are the big ones
Starting point is 01:05:26 Malik and Garradon Yeah I know Malik has always like Had Talas's back as much as he could Right Yeah he's pretty cool Yeah Malik is cool But then like Deltrian arrived and we got a lot of good Deltry in this book.
Starting point is 01:05:39 We didn't talk much about, but I like a lot of it. They keep it a little bit of a secret, but Talos sees Deltrian fleeing and he sees what Deltrian has and he's like, oh my, fuck you, you piece of shit. What are you doing? And I'm just like, what the fuck could Deltrian possibly have that would make Talos like, he's furious. He's like, you guys aren't going to believe what Deltrient. and got that motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And I'm like, whoa. Talos, easy. Like, what does he have, like, the exalted's head or something? Like, what the... He'd be okay with that. Yeah. Wait, do you know what he has? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Oh, yeah. He has, um... Well, did that, does that happen in Voidstocker or... Yeah, it had, well, yeah, yeah, it happens in Voidstalker. Well, we'll wait then. We'll wait then. No, no, no. I think they mention what he has near the very end of,
Starting point is 01:06:36 of Blood Reaver. I don't think he wakes up, but they're like, oh, yeah. Well, now that's no way to stop it. Yeah, he's got Malkarian's fucking thing. Yeah, he has Malkarians dreadnought, or is it just the sarcophagus?
Starting point is 01:06:50 The dreadnought sarcophagus is kind of a thing. Yeah. So. And Tals is like, Deltran, why the fuck do you have that? And he's like, oh, well, I didn't want to do it, but I got orders higher up than yours
Starting point is 01:07:05 to bring him with me and save him. I think that's Voidstocker, because I haven't read that part yet, so. No, I remember reading that part, and I haven't started Voidstocker yet. I thought you started Voidstocker. Not yet. I was going to wait until after we did this episode.
Starting point is 01:07:20 No, I think that was the last, like, five minutes of the book then. That was really late. It's really close to the end. I think I just forgot about that. Yeah, but the orders came from Malik, I think, right? Malik was like, hey, maybe you should go ahead and keep. a hold of our dreadnought. I don't know why I can never get his name right.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Malkarian, the war sage. For some reason, I'm always like, oh yeah, it's Malacador. It's like, no, no, wrong M. Malkarian? From his work, the Tenebris Path. Come on, they say like 20 times in the first book. I know, but for some reason, there's just so many M names floating around in my head that I never,
Starting point is 01:07:58 I can just, I never get it right the first time. Whatever, anyway, you all know who he is. Well, regardless, the book, ends with a very nice moment which is Ruven being like, hey gang how's it going? I sure can't wait for some great times together
Starting point is 01:08:14 as he's just fucking sliced in half on the chest. And he's just like crawling, bleeding to death and all the night lords are looking down on him. And it's like that meme with the Pepe who dropped his plate of food and there's a shadow over him and he's like,
Starting point is 01:08:30 uh-huh. He's like, this is for secundus and all the bullshit you are. We don't need you anymore. Die. Yep, you're a traitor and you surely would have betrayed us too. Now die. I forgot about that. Yeah, he's just like, hey gang, where are we gonna go to next? This is gonna be a great time. I'm so glad to be back among my brothers. They even gave him night lord armor, didn't they? Uh, yeah, they did. bicected him and and then I think Vario
Starting point is 01:09:04 literally just Vario skins him Flays him and I think Talos wants his body to be hung up on the command deck Yep in the war room or whatever Everybody to see Yep yep it's pretty
Starting point is 01:09:20 It's pretty night lord's seat It's immensely satisfying You get what you fucking deserve Murray You get what you fucking deserve Ruvan. You get what you fucking deserve. Though there was a part of me that was actually kind of hoping that Ruvan did actually become part of the group just because he is that sort of shit lord and you're just kind of
Starting point is 01:09:40 waiting for the other shoe to drop with him. But at the same time, I'm not unhappy with the fact that he got absolutely fucking wrecked at the end of the book. Yeah. It's very nice. It's very satisfying. I am more than a fam. Yep
Starting point is 01:09:58 But that is Blood Reaver, I think Yep, they do have a short Epilogue Short little epilogue But I'd rather not talk about that one Because that's... Okay I think they actually
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like replay the same epilogue In the beginning of Voidstocker Okay, so it's literally just like Hey, here's the first This is essentially like the first 10 pages Of Voidstocker Yes Okay
Starting point is 01:10:20 We'll talk about it next time then Yes, it's I really like this book It's my favorite of the three lots of good backstory lots of new characters almost all of them good Maruk Vario deltrium
Starting point is 01:10:33 even here on Blackheart is pretty great you learn more by McCutian that a little section of Talas and Zarl as kids was fucking crazy yep Uzas being sort of clear and concise and it being super sad
Starting point is 01:10:51 because Talas is like oh I miss that I miss my brother it's interesting too because Usas swears that he never ever killed Akir. That's true till the end of the book. He's like, it wasn't me. I don't know what to tell you. If you don't believe me,
Starting point is 01:11:06 fine, whatever, but I know I didn't do it. Oh, we almost forgot. Because of that, gauntlets. He's got the sinners gauntlets. He's got the red gauntlets. When that part happened, I was like, I learned about that. I get it. Yes. Yes, he's been branded Sinners Red.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Sinners Red. And he's like, Where am I going to get red paint? Just use all the blood on the ground, bud. Jeez. Yeah, good old. And at the end, he actually does show up with red gauntlets. He does? Yep.
Starting point is 01:11:37 A lot of times I forget that Uzaz has a cape. Usas has a cape? He has a cape of a noble family. Oh. It was their skin. Oh, right. That's true. He was also like, I think he was also either murdering or violating a woman,
Starting point is 01:11:53 and she put her head. hand on his faceplate and left that bloody handprint, which is why he has the bloody handprint on the face. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, oh, Uzas. Oh, Uzas. Oh, Uzas. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:08 For some reason, when you said that all I could think of was that's just Usas, and it's like an 80s theme song. It's like a sitcom. Yeah, and it just shows Usas like shrugging his shoulders with a big smile on his face and blacken way. He's pretty, Uzaz is pretty suss. It's pretty true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Alright, we've been going for a long time The next book will be Voidstalker My second favorite Though I would say it has the most problems Oh, is it like too quick of a finish Or are they do they true? No, no, no, no I just there are just things in it that I think I think it has the most issues for me
Starting point is 01:12:44 But it also has some of the highest highs Okay So it's like the stuff that's in it is really good But then there are some things that I don't like But overall I still like it more than Soul Hunt and Soul Hunter is fucking great, so... They're all really good. But yeah, Blood Raver
Starting point is 01:13:00 probably better than Soul Hunter. So it's just been getting better and better. So I'm looking forward to Boydstocker. It'll be pretty good. We'll do that one next month. And then after that, we're going to be reading Caiaphas Cain. Ah, the name Lord, everybody keeps telling me about Caiaphas
Starting point is 01:13:16 Kane and how I need to see it, and it's lighthearted, and he stumbles his way into success somehow, and yeah. So we'll be doing that soon, Thank you everyone for watching. It was a pleasure. Invite me a brickie. On places.
Starting point is 01:13:31 You invite D.K. D.K. At places. Plus DK. Diamantus at places. Well, yeah. And chimes. Whatever. No blood.
Starting point is 01:13:42 No blood. No skulls. No skulls. Oh.

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