Adeptus Ridiculous - CARCHARODONS: HUNTERS FROM THE OUTER VOID | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

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They don't care to know more. They just want to hear us talk about it because they want to share their enjoyment. Right. You're right. You're right. All right. Well, anyway, here we go. They were dispatched into the outer darkness upon that first day of exile.

There to ravage the foes of mankind until their final atonement. Their forgotten one gave them remit unbound to set about the traitor, the alien, and the renegade without mercy and to hero them in their places of strength. So began their long hunt. They hunt still. Damn. That's hell of a quote.

It's a hell of, all right, so, all right, D.K. Yeah, yeah. Mass effect. Mass effect, let's go. I love the trilogy. Actually, I kind of unironically like Andromeda. I think

Andromeda's okay. Yeah, it's fine. It is fine. Now, Mass Effect 2. Pretty good game, right? Amazing game. Amazing. Absolutely fucking stupendent.

Super good. Lair of the Shadowbroker DLC. Fucking great. Incredible. There's a little part at the end of it where there's a little terminal that gives you various types of information on your squad mates. Some of them interesting, some of them a little bit more, a little sad. I think Miranda was attempting to find out if she could have kids and she can't. Yeah, because she's genetically engineered.

Yep, because she's a fat-grown baby, like shy. Yeah, shy's a gremlin. She's not human. Oh, very true, very true. And then Legion was getting banned from video games for macros, or assumption of using macros, et cetera. What a Chad. What a chap.

One of them, though, was Grunt. And it was Grunt search history. And his search history was like human battles, big human battles, human deaths, lots of human deaths, human fighting styles, shepherd, commander shepherd, dinosaurs, dinosaurs, human dinosaurs. And then he kept on going to that. And the last one was just sharks. Last one is just sharks. Sure.

Why not? Yeah, I didn't remember about grunt search history, but that sounds, that sounds accurate. Grunt was the founder of the Carcadon's chapter. Man, that was a, that was a long way to go to get to Carcadon's reference, dude. I got to be honest with you, that was a, that was a, that was a primed reach. No, no, no, no, no, there's more than that. And don't Warframe reference on my, on, on our, sorry, on our show. I'm not going to, I was going to say my show because I was angry with you.

I'm taking the power back. the show. You don't get anymore. You made a warframe reference, you dick. No, the console, learning about these, also, I don't really care how they're pronounced. They're like, carcharodons, charitons. I don't care. I'm going to call them carcadons. Same. That sounds better.

Yeah, I'm doing that. It's up my ass. So, okay, well, please. No. Okay. You got to pay me a lot more than what you're already paying me to get that service. I disagree. Oh, no. Anyway, go ahead.

Anyway, space sharks. Space sharks. That was, that reference is more than it might seem. I, I feel like, okay, so the space sharks are pretty cool. Oh, yeah. But they're also, like, really dumb and, like, overly edgy. Oh, no. And it reminds me of grunt, like, who acts like a teenager, you know?

He acts like a teenager, he's like, you'll be fucking cool. space marines, but they're sharks. Yeah, okay. I, yeah. What if they're space marines, but they're wolves? You know? They're space wolves. Yeah, it's like, what if they're space marines, but they're sharks?

But it's got that kind of like super dumb, over the top edginess that, It actually serves them in their favor. Kind of like Middle Gear Rising. Okay. Where it's so stupid, I kind of like it. Kind of works. I am curious as to how a space shark actually, like, came into existence and, like, became a space marine. Well, you're going to have some unfortunate news on that one.

Part of the silly edginess is that their foundation, is very much shrouded in mystery. Oh, for God's sakes. It's one of those, yes. Hey, guys, we couldn't come up with any reasonable origin story for having actual sharks of space marines, so we're going to shroud it in mystery, and it just happened, don't worry, there's sharks, you love them.

Hold on, D.K., hold on, let me finish. Okay. I think they're kind of dope, but like I say, Like, imagine a teenager wrote this, okay? Imagine like a 15-year-old kid wrote this, because it is cool, but it's cool in that kind of way. So the space sharks, the Carcaryodons, it is unknown what their successor a chapter of.

There are the two prevailing theories is that they are either a successor of the Ravenguard and Corvus Corax, or of the night lords. Oh. Now, it's more assumed Ravenguard, but the way they fight and some of their physical features

are very nightlordsy. So when we're talking about sharks, you need to think that these guys are like, they act like sharks. So they were not founded way back when. They were either part of the second founding or something around there. But all we know is that they are old enough to remember the emperor when he was when he was flesh

Okay So they they are I guess because he's bone now They are old enough to truly understand To remember the emperor from that period of time so they are as old as you know Ultramarines things like that you know sure people who at that time However they are a fleet based chapter they have no technical home world and Instead they specifically are like exiles that exist almost entirely in the outer void of the galaxy,

in the deep, deep, dark, dark recesses of the galaxy in which far, far from the emperor's light. Huh. Is there any specific reason for that? Is it just because like, oh, we're sharks swimming in the murky deeps type of deal? Or like, it's because they're sharks swimming in the murky deep. Okay, just making sure. Remember, it's cool, but a 15-year-old wrote this. Yeah, we're so edgy, we're out on our own, we don't need your help.

I was going to ask, so if you're a successor chapter to save the night lords and the night lords turn traitor, how does that affect the successor chapter? Like, they don't have to turn traitor too, but I got to believe that the rest of the Imperium is like, hey, you guys are a little... A little sussie beckas, if you will. Well, so remember that we don't know their founding. Oh, sure, sure, sure. But assuming that they were, everybody knew they were like a night lord successor chapter, like would everybody just be like, ooh, don't help them?

Well, the Blood Ravens are a chapter of Space Marines from the Donna War Games, and they are assumed to be a thousand sons successors, but they're loyalist. Oh. I think either one or two things happen. Either they just deal with the enemies in the Imperium on their own time, or they're just looked out with a hefty, hefty amount of suspicion from the Inquisition and the like, but they're like begrudging. Oh, okay.

So kind of like how everyone treats the Dark Angels-ish, well, I guess that's not quite. That's the Dark Angel's fault being them. But that's kind of the reason why they're, out there in the void is because they plan to bleed the enemies of the Imperium kind of on their own terms. Gotcha. You know, they hide out in the deep, dark recesses of the galaxy like a shark hides in the deep dark waters of the ocean. Okay. Because sharks.

But as a fleet-based chapter entirely nomadic, they do their crusades and stuff like nature like other chapters might, but they are on their own. like these dark ships and stuff like that. But they're known as the Carcadon's Astra is like their high Gothic translation. And they have a shark symbol, of course. Of course. But the interesting thing about them is that they first, they were around kind of popping in and out to help out a little bit in a few things. They helped out the blood angels a little bit.

They, in the Seventh Black Crusade, they helped out a bit. They were doing this thing called the Engivin, a crusade. they fought some orcs and some tyrannids, but their main like a rival was in the Badaab War. And you might remember the Badaab War as the, oh shit, stop, they're already dead, lamenters. Or you might remember the Badaab War from the tyrant of the Badaab sector, Lufth Huron, Huron Blackheart.

Oh, yeah. Good old monkey boy. Yep, the Red Corsair guy. who's a real shitter. But in the Badaab War, during this period of time, the Carcherodons arrived just out of nowhere, and they were like, we're here to kill chaos. I knew you were going to go. I'm sorry, it was too easy.

It was right there. It was right there. I'm here to kill chaos. He plays Limp Bizkit on phone and goes and pretends to be a shark. Yep. That actually, that is a very fitting image. how we've portrayed them as like an edgy 15 year old fan fiction. Yeah.

Yeah. So. So they entered with a fire blackened strike cruiser. Remember a strike cruiser is the same size of the covenant of blood. And their chapter master, which they are known as a shade lord. Oh. Did they cast a lot of shade? They tossing out a lot of insults, you know?

Oh, damn, Shade Lord. Take it easy on him, bro. That's not what I was going for at all. I think it's the shade isn't... What? Well, because he's tossing a lot of shade. He probably, you know, tells a lot of your mama jokes. Tyberos...

Shade, dude. Tybaros walks up, calls you a pussy. Leaves. Like, damn. That's why he's our chapter master. God damn. They don't call him the Shade Lord for nothing. So we've talked about Tiberos.

a little bit. But Tiberos is the chapter master The Shade Lord. He's known as the Red Wake. And he's the enormous motherfucker you see in that image

we always show. He's that badass? I believe he is canonically the largest space marine currently alive. He's so cool. And he's like double lightning claws, right?

So he, I think he's 11 feet tall in his Dreadnodd not armor. which is about the size of a primark. Holy shit. That's a big boy. I think he is canonically the largest motherfucker out there. He could be a shade lord just because he's so fucking big.

He's going to shade everything in front of him. He's the kind of guy who, he's like the guy who's like six foot seven, and he walks into the gym knowing full well he doesn't have to. He's like, I don't need to get buffed to get women, but I'm here anyway. Because I'm going to exert my dominance. He's also got, so he wears dress. Dreadnought armor, right? But the idea of the sharks,

he has this very low, like, drolling whisper of a voice. He kind of talks in this very low, quiet speak. So what you would imagine from a shark, like if a shark could talk, that's probably... A low rumble, right? Yeah, I'm a predator. I'm hunting my prey.

He speaks in very, uh, very like, like a death's whisper. Oh, okay. You know? That's dope. Yeah. All right.

All right. Um, so that, uh, despite his, his insane, you know, armor and all that, he rolled up and basically said, I'm here to kill chaos. Plays Limp biscuit. Plays Lipskit on phone. Um, and originally all the loyalists in the time were like, who the fuck are you? How'd you get Terminator armor? What the fuck? Who the fuck are you?

And, like, what? I don't know how I feel about this. Random fleet comes in, a random ship comes in here, wants to help us out. I don't know. But eventually, Tiberos actually was really, like,

forthcoming. He told them, we're the Carcadons, all this kind of stuff. He placed chapter. They gave them signals from their ship that were, that were, like,

centuries, millennia old, but they were, they were correct, like, like, um, like codes,

you know, like, yeah, like signifiers that they're loyal to the, uh, Imperium. Exactly. And they even had an inquisitor psychically probe him

and all that stuff. He accepted he was like yeah, psychically probe me and do all stuff like, yeah, psychic probing and gene sampling. And even though at that point they were still like, they said okay. They said fine. And they brought them in.

I mean, they passed all the tests, so why not? I guess. Yeah. They didn't need any more. And they needed the help really bad. So they decided to go help fight. And this is where you get a little bit of the night lordsy stuff in terms of their doctrine, combat doctrine? So the first thing's first.

And like I said, like these guys are cool, but they're also a 15 year old. When they fight on the ground, they fight in complete silence. Oh, okay. They, they, no speak. Okay. they will have a couple things sent via Voxlink via their their commanders

but dead silence I'm assuming that's again going for kind of the shark vibe like a shark sort of stalking its prey you know sneak up on it and just you don't notice it it's like the bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum and then eat exactly

not only that but they kind of roll around with like the the shark vibe when it comes to fighting where they have their very night lords in the sense of they're very hit and run they're very fast but they send in like scouts and stuff and then they kind of figure out the weak points of an area and they kind of you know it's a little bit like that shark circling yeah i mean i was going to say that's how a shark actually hunts isn't it they kind of hit and run look for the weak spots and then pounce and what they fight with a shark style

where they have a lot of affinity for chain-based weapons. They love their chains, blades, they love their chain fists, they love their chain swords. They even have chainsaw attachments on their bolters. Oh, hey, I mean, that's cool. To use very gears of war-y.

Okay. So they have lots of chain weapon because they, they love murder. Wow, I mean, They're space Marines, so that checks out. I mean, like, they love blood. Like, they rip people apart. It is never fast.

Despite them being hit and run, they want to leave as much of a gory display as they can. They love to just rip, like, saw limbs off and have the chains of their teeth, like, just crushed through bone. And they want to, they want to shred. It's not about a good stab in the neck and then you're done. They want to rip you up. So they're really going all in on the shark aesthetic here. Like it's not just like, oh, yeah, we think sharks are cool. And, oh, look, we kind of look like sharks.

Like, they're all in on being as shark as possible. Like from having an affinity for long rows of teeth, loving blood, oh my God, blood, blood, gore. And they are literal, well, I don't want to say literal space sharks, but they are really on the nose with this shark theme, aren't they? Like I said, it's fucking cool, but it was made by a guy who was like, what if space marines were sharks? It is cool, though. I know I sound maybe a little sarcastic and a little more suss than usual, but it is very dope. It only gets doper with time, actually.

So despite the fact that they are ripping people apart in gory displays of violence while being entirely silent, despite them being shade, Lord, you know, ha-ha. But, like, you know, when you think of the night lords, they do that kind of stuff, they torture and flay. But they wouldn't inflict pain because they like that and fear. But they probably, you know,

they're doing Vox screams, you know? They're, they're assholes. They're gangsters, you know, as opposed to these guys who are quiet predators. Yeah. Well, I was going to ask some night lords are like gangsters and predators, but I guess we don't really know what,

since we don't really know their origin, we don't really know, like, how does a Carcarodon become a Carcadon, do we? Well, we kind of do. Oh, okay. But we'll get to that in a moment. Anyway, that was when they arrived, was on the Bad Ab War,

and that's how they, that's kind of where they got their first reel, like, hey, what's up? But, like, to go along with, like, their weaponry they like to use, the big bad boy, Tiberos, he's got these really fancy-ass lightning claws that have all,

under mounted chainsaws and lightning claws on the top. If you scroll back up and look at the image of him, you can see there are chainsaw tooth on the bottom wrists and lightning claws that look a lot like shark like harpoons, like the hooks, you know?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever those are called. They kind of look like shark teeth, but yeah. Oh, that too. They're called Hunger and Slake. Ooh, that's pretty cool. Which is pretty dope. The thing about the Carcarodons is that a lot of their gear and armor is self-maintained because they never go out and seek the Mechanicus

because they're on their own. They're a fleet-based chapter. So they actually have a lot of gear, a lot of armor, a lot of weapons that date back to the Horace heresy. That have just been constantly refixed, you know, like Mark 5 armor instead of the new stuff. Damn, okay. But yeah, that change is very dope. I hadn't noticed it before. But damn, that's sick.

Yeah, it's a really cool-looking weaponry. In fact, Tiberius has a weird-ass... So actually, it kind of goes into their physical appearance. The Space Marines are space sharks, and they look like sharks. Their genetic defect... makes their skim with time, because the gene seed makes it worse and worse with time, slowly turn a bit gray,

and to an extent almost rubbery. Gray and leathery. And their teeth also get a little more serrated. Ah, like shark teeth. Like shark teeth. If you like punch a carterodon in the mouth and knock out like its front teeth, does another row immediately grow back in?

That's a great question. know, but it wouldn't surprise me because they wanted to make space serines, but sharks. But sharks! That being said, I would never try to punch a Carcarodon. That'd be the last... Like, if I had to punch a space marine, Carcadone, I'd probably last on the fucking list.

The salamander would be like, oh, good punch, young man, let me show you a real punch, and then he punches the wall, he's like, you should lift more. Yeah. Although, I don't know, if you punch your carcadon in the mouth, does it run away? Get rotated, idiot.

Yeah, and like if you drag a Karkaradon backwards, does it drown? God damn it. It's curious. It's a shark! Oh, thank you. These are shark things. Ah, thank you, Shia. You found the meme.

I'm very proud. Get rotated, idiot. That's a good one. Can you imagine the carcaridon's running at an enemy, and they just grab him, spin him around, and you just can't fight anymore. It's like a turtle on his back. He's like, ah! Get rotated, idiot.

Get rotated, idiot. But funny enough, the Kerrcanon chapter with all those like that facial parts and the facial genetic adjustments that go along with the whole what if space marines but sharks They have a

Their primark curse, quote unquote is called the chill of the void And so the idea is that they kind of grow a little bit like They grow cold and formal and they don't want to speak very often and then eventually

they become really merciless and like enemy must be ripped into 4,000 pieces to truly be dead and sometimes they will just kind of leave they won't lead their squads

those kind of be solo they become cold and distance the more they they just live you know they want to become like kind of low

like low The idea of the cold embrace of the void is the cold embrace of sea. You know, there's just the sharks. So it's sort of like a lone shark, like a lone wolf goes off and goes on its own because it just wants to be. It's kind of like a lonely shark looking for trouble. And also, one thing I didn't mention is that it kind of gives you an idea of the night lord's thing is that their eyes are pitch black. Like. Oh, right.

They, as well they should be because. As sharks. Yeah, sharks. Yeah. That shark motif. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the night lord.

also have pitch black eyes and and pale skin and the Carcarodons have Nightlords are evil. Well, Carcirondes have gray skin and and fish of dark eyes. Yeah, but aren't the, don't Night Lords have that because Nistramal's pitch black all the time, no sun, no light? I mean, yes, but, shut up. Man, I would really love if there was like an origin story for the Carcadons to sort of like, explain all this stuff too, because it, like, I would really like to, like,

Would they live on a planet that's like, you know, 90% water, like an Earth planet? And they just sort of gain this affinity for hunting and in packs and shirking it up. And I really wish there was like a, they had some sort of like known origin story. Oh, I am. I mean, maybe something, but perhaps the reason why people love this chapter so much is due to that curiosity. Ah, the mystery. so they can sort of have their own little supposed head cannon and head theories. Certainly possible.

Actually, in regards of appearance, Tiberos is a is a nightmare to look at. No, no, I mean like he has never seen outside of his Terminator armor, but his face was revealed, maybe one of the books or something. And it says his face is a corpse white nightmare, with half of the bones of his face being exposed. Oh. In a bloodless grimace while his eyes are a soulless, depthless black.

Oh, my God. So half of his face bones are just jutting out of his face. So he's in a perpetual bloodless grimace grim, like rictus grin. Oh, oh God. Yeah, that's a nightmare. I too would also

keep my Terminator helmet on all the time. Oh my God, that sounds awful. It's pretty spooky. though to go along with the spookiness the Carcarodons might be fiercely loyalist they are a hard loyalist chapter but they don't act like it sometimes

example there's some of their ships like they have the Euristre Clause the giant harpoon fire the Euristerclaws they have the harpoons They probably should have them If anyone should have harpoons they should absolutely be the one of Harpoons. Right? Well, I guess maybe they should hate harpoons because they're sharks and sharks. They see a harpoon. Like, ah, no.

Run! Did you know that the Thunder Coil Harpoon Knight gets double damage against Carcaron's? Does it really? Of course not. It's a joke. I was hoping that was real because I'd be like, damn, that's dedication to the lore. To the lore. Yeah, they have the Ursula Clause as well. But they, in order to get new recruits, they have this thing called the Red Tithe where they basically raid a planet that they were given sanctioned to raid

and they just steal people Oh Oh They just gang people and like Yeah you're gonna become a space marine now You're gonna become a Carcadon now Yeah like they descend on an imperial world of some kind Or like a world that might be not okay

Or there's a problem And they just take the population They just harvest them. They make a lot of them serfs and slaves or laborers in the fleet and then a lot of and then they take a bunch of criminals

and shit and they scare them straight and they might turn them into sharks and they even have a lower success rate than normal space marine implantation because of their weird ass problems. Oh, wow, that...

I'm... Hippity hoppity, shark property. Yeah, so they just go to... to an Imperium planet that they've been given consent to raid and they just... I don't even know if they were given... Oh, so they just go to a planet, raid it, take what they want, and then that's that? I'm not sure. I think sometimes they get consent. Sometimes they don't.

If I'm not mistaken, the book, the Red Tithe, right after the Bad Ab War, the first book, they're actually going to replenish their recruits by going to a planet. And it just so happens that when they go. there, the night lords are seizing it. And so they fight the night lords and proceed to beat their fucking ass because night lords never win anything outside of the trilogy.

Of course, yeah. Well, they're, and they're, you know, if I would imagine if night lords were actually fighting Carcaryodons, carcadones would probably be the better fighters, because night lords are all about bullshit tactics, right? They're not

looking for a fair fight. They're looking for a that they know they can win with cheap tactics. Night Lord's favorite thing is to beat on mortals with overwhelming odds because they can. And boy, are they good at it. And boy, they are, they are, the nightlords are the ones who make sure the opponent picks the kids for the dodgeball tournament. And then when it's time to play dodgeball, they just pull out a gun. Oof. But yeah, I would imagine the Carcaraeons would beat the shit out of the nightlords.

You've yeed your last ha, Timmy. Off Adelma, it's Knox, bang. Bang. Oh, my God. Yeah, and they did, but that was the red tides. They just take people. They're just like, all right, you're going to be a shark now. They also have something called the gray tide,

but that's more for gear, like weapons and vehicles and stuff. They don't really, they have vehicles and things, but they don't really use them much. They tend to just be a fast, hard-hitting infantry group because sharks don't drive tanks. I mean, they do, but, you know, in real life. Yeah.

So that's the acquisition for the gray ties is a big part of that. As for other things like their librarians, they have two particular powers that are pretty cool. One of them is known as the rending maw

where it literally calls forth an avatar of a shark whose maw erupts from the ground beneath the enemy and then like claps over them. And then, and then,

snaps shut with like a giant shower of blood and gore. I don't mean to sound negative towards the Carcadons, but that sounds... DK., I told you, 15-year-old wrote this. I know, I know. It's great and dumb. I know, but that sounds really dumb. Now, the other one is pretty cool, though. Okay.

It's called The Depth, from the Depths, which makes the enemy hallucinate and clouds their mind with this mental darkness as if they're currently drowning. Okay. Now we're talking. Yeah. That sounds dope. The idea like the mind is hit with images of like numbing cold and the dark depths and it feels like they're physically drowning in nothingness.

That sounds really dope. I like the, what was that called again? From the depths. Okay. I'm back on board, Carcaraon. I'm back on board. That first one, it's like, oh, look, I summoned a shark. That's a little too on the nose for me.

From the depth sounds great, though. I love that. There is a quote from their chief librarian says, We are the protectors of humanity and its judges. When the shadows strike, we strike back. From the outer dark we come and into its depths we shall return. The Black Sea beyond the stars calls to us. Oh, nice quote.

You know, sharks. Okay, sharks, yeah. Though one thing that I actually like, I think the most out of this stuff is despite all the I'm 15 and this is deep, literally, Lamow, deep sharks, water. Despite all of that, I actually really like their aesthetic in terms of their actual kind of culture and physical, they're kind of drabbed up

I don't know they put things on them you know I forget the term but in like Scrimshaw talismans Scrimshaw talismans They have a lot of like

Maori That's how it's pronounced Stuff going on Yeah yeah yeah Yeah Like a lot of like tribal tattoos On their armor They have talismans like

that they have like the bones of a shark tooth, like wrapped around their shoulders and necks in like, uh, um, like the, the rope wreath or whatever it's called. Okay. Um, if you look closely at the image of Tiberos, uh, staying in front of that, uh, space marium, look at his, his right shoulder pad. You can see skulls and like shark teeth wrapped in string. You can see that on his, on his, uh, knees.

There's more teeth there. and skulls. Like, it's got a lot of like indigenous people or indigenous persons, whatever it's called. Like, like, what's the New Zealand? It's Maori, right?

Isn't it? Yeah, it's got a lot of that going on with it. Yeah, it's got a very sort of Polynesian vibe to it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, that too. Like the tribal tattoos are actually markings on the armor. And, like, that is probably my face.

favorite part of it because I, like I've said a million times, I love when they take real world culture and given an equivalent, both because people of that region have a thing that they can, you know, like, it's theirs. Yeah, and they can sort of relate to it and they can sort of, yeah, sure. It's nice when you feel represented, you know? And also, it gives it like, like, it's pulled from a real world culture, so it gives the chapter its own culture. It's why the white scars are so fucking.

cool. You know, they decided to go with, instead of cavalry horseback, uh, con era, they, they went with fucking space marines on motorcycles. Like, it's so dope. It is. It is. Yeah, the aesthetic is really cool. I like the, uh, I, I, I like those sort of Maori Polynesian tattoos. And, um, specifically that, that, the, the big picture of Tiberos with like all the, uh, shark teeth and the, the skulls and all that adorn. That looks really dope. They often have like tattoos on their body as well of similar things. For example, also the talismans here from the wiki says, these bone talismans are covered with intricately detailed linework carvings

to the point where the original shape of the bone is lost and the entire surface is a maze of inkwork. They come in a variety of shapes, though they're often re-styledized in like a death's head, a sea-going predator or some kind of thing of like teeth, gaping maws, that kind of stuff. So that also kind of goes with the night lordsy thing of like Putting fearful imagery on your body

But along with the Ravenguard They have a similar aesthetic as the Ravenguard And have the like stealth So and then also loyalist Ravengar It's it's unsure But I believe that they're like their librarian's name I apologize if I pronounce this wrong But it's like

Teh Karangi? Karangi? Sure. You know, the names are like, Chaplain Nekora, Apothecary Tama, Tech Marine Othulu,

you know, Chapter Master Manfor, Master Akiah, Bail Shar, the names, you know, Akamu, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, like very, the names are very, yeah. Okay, okay. So, you know, like, despite it being

what if Space Marine, were sharks. Besides that, it's like that kind of thing where you get into it because it's so 15 and I'm deep kind of thing. Literally. But literally, but then you get,

you're like, oh, wait a minute, this is dumb, but all of 40K is dumb. True. And like, let's be, is space wolves any real, any better to be truthfully?

No, spacewoles are fucking dumb. Yeah. Or like... Bullshy idiots those spacewolds, right? Or even K-sons. Fuck the spacewool. What? K-sons?

What's wrong with them? The funny-ass Egyptians. What? They have big-ass pyramids and shit. Yes, so? That's some realistic shit right there. There's nothing wrong with the K-sons. Uh-huh.

Take that back. Uh-huh. Magnus the suss. Whatever. whatever, whatever, whatever, man. Whatever, man. But, but yeah, like, you know, I gotta say, pretty cool. I kind of like them.

Like, they even, they even have company masters, right, like, captains of the thing. And they're called the Reaper Prime and the Harvester Prime. The Reaper. Ooh, okay. You got me back, Carcara. Yeah, the fucking. Reaper Prime is literally the guy who helps lead the red tide and the Harvester Prime does the gray tithe. They're even, hell, their basic troop, the Battle Brother is known as a Void Brother.

Because they're from the void. They're assault marines. Assault Marines are like a chain sword and a pistol. They run really fast with like jet packs. They're known as devourers. And their Terminator formation are known as the Red Brethren. Okay. That's pretty dope.

Like I said, it's kind of cool. Shai, oh no. is that is that is that is that is that is that a space shark i've depicted you as the soy jack dk is that is that what that is i i it i didn't make it a connection until just now but i was like oh yeah shark v to oh no i i i get it i don't think uh i don't think it has anything to do with um let how do i say i say this like a lot of people wanted us talk about space sharks. And I think a lot of the

beginning enjoyment of the chapter is very much, dude, they're like big sharks and their chapter master is enormous. Bruh. And I mean, to be fair, if you look at a space shark,

they are really fucking cool. They are. These Carcadones are super dope. But for me, it's a little hit and miss. Because sometimes times like, oh, dude, look at that sick armor. Oh, they're battle tactics. Maybe a little on the nose for being sharks. But still, I love the battle tactics of them actually kind of reacting like sharks and enjoying like a chainsaw stuff that has like sort of the the shark teeth thing on it.

I love Tiberius's like a handheld chainsaw thing. But then some of the other stuff gets a little like summoning a giant avatar of a shark to bite the thing. people. Yeah, and then like no origin story because oh, look at us, we're so dark and deep that it's just, I don't know, it's, it's hit and miss for me. Some things I like some things I don't. That's, that's fine. I'm, I'm in the same way, but I would be a enormous hypocrite if I, if I downplayed anyone for liking the space sharks because they're too silly in 40K, I would be an enormous hypocrite. I like the sisters of battle

and they are some of the most over the top, dumb-ass fucking space nuns shit ever. But like I gotta be honest, I like them. I'm a fan. I think they're super dope. I think they're fucking cool.

I think they're fucking dumb. I think they take the dumb scale a little bit higher than others. You know, I consider them, you got like Imperial Fists and stuff. like that, like maybe emperor's children. And, like, the emperor's children are pretty dumb. Don't get me wrong.

Like, the Salomers and all their fire are pretty dumb. I think, I think these ones go to 11 a little bit. But I don't think, I don't, I don't know anyone who is rolled up and is like, dude, space sharks by far have the best lore, the best characters. They, they are number one. They are the best handled faction in the game. Like, I don't think anyone's saying. that?

No. I think they're like, man, these dudes are dope. I'm going to make some minis. I will say from an aesthetic standpoint, they are probably one of the cooler space marine factions I've seen, because they're not chaos, and chaos gets all the cool space marine shit. But in terms of just a normal space, they're really dope. They're really, really cool with all the sort of Polynesian tattoos and all the

shark tooth things and stuff on on them they look really dope they're probably one of the cool looking space frame factions they look incredibly good I think they look awesome I love the representation of the Maori people that's how it's said probably I love that I always love that kind of stuff

and yeah honestly they're pretty dope I have almost no real I mean I do have problems with them because they're You know when a lot of people, like the internet is really big on something, everyone is talking about how great it is and they want you like, you gotta see this, you gotta see this, you gotta see this. 90% of the time I feel like when I do see it, it's fine, it's good, but it's not like the greatest thing in the world, you know? Yeah, like it just can't quite live up to the hype because, like in your mind, like you're expecting this just larger than life. Oh my God, this is going to change my opinion on everything.

and it's just like, oh, that's fine. Yeah, that's, I'm, I'm cool with that. And that it's kind of a disappointment, because you were expecting like this life-changing experience, right? Yeah, like, I felt that way when I watched like Squid Game, you know, I was like, hey, this is good, but it's not like amazing, it's good. I hate to sound like a hipster,

but I had watched Squid Games before it blew up. And when it did blow up, I was like, wait, what? I was like it was good and I enjoyed it thoroughly but like I was not expecting it to like just into the internet phenomenon that it became I think uh I think when Parasite won best picture prior and that was like a high profile Korean film and then it was like and then everyone loves a death game everyone loves that kind of thing

you know yeah sure so but but yeah I thought it was you know and so so now that we got the Caracarodons and everyone for literally like a year or saying when are you going to do Carcarradons or here I have come to say you're mostly right they're pretty fucking dope yeah they're cool

they're pretty cool got some sometimes it gets a little too on the nose with the shark stuff little hokey here and there but I think just how cool they are and how cool they fight and how cool their weapons are I think that balances it out and puts them into yeah I like these guys

they're cool They're not my favorite, but they're dope as hell. Sure. I go with you on that. I might like them even more if I read the books. And if I ever do get a chance to read the books, I will most likely mention it because, you know, I mean, and, you know, I became a fucking Nightlord's Simp by reading the books.

Yeah, you did. And a Nekron Simp. Yeah, I did. And a Nekron Simp that's doing the same. Yeah, yeah. You know, so. It's the books. So we'll see.

we will certainly see but overall that's about it for me today you know what space sharks I like them they're really dumb I like them

they're pretty good they're dumb but they're like that cool dumb that you're like yeah they're causally but they're but they're sharks in space you know like they're you know

fucking night lords are comically evil they like skin children Like they're so abhorrent that it's kind of fun, funny and fun. And these guys, they're so over the top. They're void this. They're summoning avatars of sharks. They're going in giant harpoon things and their faces are gray and rubbery. And like, oh, it's, it's dumb as hell, but it's pretty fucking cool.

That's 40K for you, though. It's 40K. That's how this game, lore universe works. And God damn it, if I wouldn't want it changed in any other way. No fucking way. Though thank you everyone so much for watching this episode of the Debtors' ridiculous. Good shit. If the books ever go on...

GW, put them books on Audible. I want to... Yeah, what the fuck, GW? I physically do not have the time to sit down and read a gosh darn book at the moment. It's got to be on the Black Library. Yeah, come on. Throw it on the goddamn Audible, please. You know, I'm going to this guy.

His name is Richard Reed. Pretty good VA. I bet he'd do it. Come on. I bet he would. Yeah, do it. Come on, do it. Let's go.

Or, or better yet, if you could find a, you know, pretty cool if you could find, like, a VA of, like, the indigenous population. That'd be pretty good. Get the accent going properly. You know, really get that going. Yeah. Some popular. Come on, G.

Yeah. Get rotated, idiot. Get rotated, idiot.