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All right.
So what are we doing today?
Hit me with a quote, right?
It is time for a quote.
Oh, no.
This one actually might not be as bad.
Well, actually, no, you won't get this one.
But, you know, I'm going to give you anyway.
You say that every episode, and I still don't get it.
This one is a little bit hard to get, so it's fine.
Okay.
Have a care, blessed soul, when you cry out in the night.
For though your need for sucker be great, your intention pure, you know not
what listens for your call.
You know not what answers your plea.
Hmm.
This sounds like...
Have a care, blessed soul.
When you cry out in the night,
for though your need for sucker be great,
your intention pure.
You know not what listens for your call.
You know not what answers your plea.
This sounds like some, uh,
Ordo Hereticus talking to someone that's maybe acting a little bit suss, you know, and they're like,
hey, I know you're like praying to like the gods, but, you know, you don't know. You don't know what
they're going to give you. You don't know what kind of heresy you're talking about. So maybe some sort of
like Ordo Hereticus that's talking down to some heresy people.
I don't know.
Or I guess it could be the other way.
I don't know.
Someone, like some kind of chaosy person and they're like,
oh, you pray to the emperor, but he doesn't give a shit about you.
You know?
I don't know.
Well, you're right on the chaosy part.
It is an extract from obscuring rhymes and fables.
Original source unknown.
But you're pretty good on the heretical part.
It was pretty hard.
You probably weren't going to get it.
But it was an interesting quote that I,
have found. It is a quote referring to the demon god of Nurgel because it is when you cry out
in the night or though your need for succor be great, your intentions pure, you know not what
listens for your call or what answers your plea. Today is an interesting episode. I was thinking,
me and I were thinking about what we want to talk about. And I was like, you know, we've done an
episode on all four chaos gods already. But we haven't really just,
talked about demons.
Damans.
Damans.
And so I went out and I was like,
you know what?
I was curious because I really enjoyed our Voton episodes
because I was able to just open the codex
and read through it and learn myself some lore.
So I went to my local games workshop
and picked up a demons codex.
And I decided to read through it and I wanted to chat about it.
Hell yeah.
Let's talk about diamonds.
Damans.
Demons codex also I think has one of the best.
cover art, Codex, demons.
I find it really cool, mainly because there's this little pink horror,
and the pink horror is doing this, he's doing this, like, rock-on thing with his fingies.
With his fingies?
With his finges.
And he's, like, blocking a bunch of bolt pistol shots from a sister of battle.
And I just, I just like the way he's firing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's a very color.
colorful cover too.
Yeah, it's actually pretty crazy when you look at the detail.
You can see the sisters having their arms all fucking trapped by tentacles and shit.
And then the demonet is like stabbing one.
And there's a plague bearer in the center of some little nerglings.
And there's that damn pink horror like, whoa!
Rock on thing.
He's casting a spell.
Yeah.
He's got a hex.
And he's got like a corn bloodletter in the back on a big steed.
it's pretty cool
whenever I say it spelled like that
I can't say demons I have to say diamonds
diamonds diamonds
Matt diamonds
Matt diamonds
Matt Damon his power of the warp
makes give us him a bigger neck
Damn
I am
So as I was opening this
book and kind of rifling through him
I really enjoy just the straight
up first lines of the book
Which is you have opened
the book already
You have read too much
That's pretty good
I like that that keeps with sort of the
40K canon of you're not supposed to
investigate into demons
or you've already
fell to heresy for opening the book of chaos
diamonds
The book of chaos
The mollific tomes that they have
So
Going through the book
Looking at the fun artwork
And all the different kinds of ambition and fear
They have really good artwork
Some of it's like a ship flowing through the warp and just the warp it's like this congeal of like maws and teeth and faces that look like a nebula.
Like a nebula is kind of like how you can see images and clouds.
Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's like images in space.
It's really creepy.
But very interesting.
So the nature of the demon.
it's something that it's interesting to discuss demons
and like how they exist
because a demon is an entity in the warp
as we all know
a demon cannot truly die
it is instead banished back to the warp
I don't really know if it can die in the warp
like if Zinche is like
and fuck you
yeah what happens if it dies in the warp
does it just swirl around and then eventually come back again
I don't know if it can die
in the warp because like that's where souls go.
But Horace has been like so effectively obliterate that I'm not quite sure if like Zeech can just or Corrin can just be like,
you fucking idiot smash and they just die-dyes.
I know that speaking a demon's true name can be a really useful way to banish them back or perhaps or summon them.
Because you know you might use a, you might know a demon's true name and then you can create a ritual and that summons the demon.
but I know the Grey Knights often know how to banish them away
because that's like, well, it's like their thing.
Is it the Grey Knights that have a list of demon names on their armor?
Is it demon names on their armor?
We haven't talked about the Grey Knights yet, but...
I could have sworn I remember talking about some faction that had, like,
instead of, like, the little paper seals on their armor,
that they had, like, a list of demon names to...
Because they specifically fight chaos and demons.
and stuff.
I mean, that sounds like something
that they would absolutely have,
but I feel like having it on their armor
would almost be a bad thing.
I would think it would...
Oh, yeah, because then they could get blasted
or destroyed, and then it's like,
well, shit, now we don't know that demons.
Yeah, maybe not.
That probably would be a bad place to put them.
I kind of can also assume
that they might...
That sounds like a word bearer's thing,
having the demons names on your armor.
That does kind of sound like a word bear's thing,
doesn't it?
Yeah.
But I mean, like, even the great ice,
they have a special thing.
They have like masters of the warp
and they can shape the tides of the warp basically.
And one of their ties,
the tide of banishment,
which is all gray knights are rigorously trained
and conditioned to fight against their demonic foes,
such as the power and psychic mastery
that the sons of Titan can turn,
the fickle eddies of the warp
against the very creatures it nourishes.
It's just like, yeah, banishment.
Anywho.
So a demon exists in the warp.
A demon
cannot exist in real space.
Cannot.
So how do they attack us and stuff?
If they can't exist in real space.
So a demon in its own,
so an overall concept of a demon, right?
You have your four chaos gods
in the realm of,
in the pantheon of chaos,
and each demon ultimately serves their master.
And no matter how on their own,
own they can get, they ultimately still serve their master.
Right.
And their agenda is often quite cunning and pretty smart, but mainly to advance the goal of
their master.
And a huge part of it is to spread the immaterial into real space, increase the domain
of chaos, to not just the warp, but into real world.
So, since they cannot exist in real space as they are.
are an entity of the warp, in order to exist,
things like warp storms or tears in reality need to happen
that spill the imiterium to the real world
and allow them to take a manifestation and form.
Okay, so there's almost like a bubble of imiterium warp nonsense
that manifests when a tear happens
and they can actually exist in that little bubble.
These tears in reality
are one of the reasons why demonic incursions have been so bad after the fall of Cadia
Because the Great Rift has opened and it's just this chain of warpstorms and tears
And so demons can manifest everywhere
It's the tear that goes literally across the galaxy
The thing is that once these tears are repaired or the warp storm fades the demons just die
So very often when it comes to dealing with a demonic incursion
finding the source of the incursion is a big way to help stop the entire thing.
It has a classic, like, Achilles heel thing.
We're like, oh, the demons taking over the world, quick.
We got to close the portal.
And you close the portal and then all the demons die.
Yeah, yeah.
If you find the source of the warp storm, then all the imitarium goes away and they can't exist.
Yeah.
So that's the only way they can exist in a real world.
With slight exceptions.
one major exception is to possess unwilling people.
Oh boy.
And so possession is a way to allow them to also have a world, you know?
But often, yeah, a roiling warp storm is one of the major ways you can create something like that.
But or it's hair in reality.
But obviously, in order to bring them into the real world,
conditions need to be met, so to speak.
And as we know for demons and the chaos gods themselves,
they respond heavily to worship.
Or not just to worship, but also to like the emotions that go along with it, right?
Yeah.
Pain, suffering, lust, all that good stuff.
Oh, great stuff, yeah.
Good stuff.
And so often, the creation of a warp,
tear or a storm or entity can be the subtle whispers that lead to a massive incursion.
Like a, obviously with our four choices, corn, Nergel, Slanesh, and Zinch.
The corn part could be just this level of gladiatorial arena, hate, blood, etc.
That all kind of culminates and allows, let's say, bloodthirster to burst through from possessing a guy.
and then rip open a tear in reality
and then bam, here comes your demons.
Fun.
Fun.
Fun.
So, like, if a giant war breaks out,
you could expect to see, like, a, you know,
a corn infestation, not infestation.
You could expect to see corn show up or corn demons show up.
If it's a huge war and a huge battle and lots of blood and lots of combat.
Yeah, there's actually a story about that that I'll tell you about it.
a bit.
Hooray.
Um,
but possession in its own right is absolutely a,
a major issue with, um,
well,
how do you say?
Like,
possession is not just unwitting people,
but sometimes,
you know,
rituals,
because people will,
you just fucking go with chaos.
They'll make,
uh,
they'll make a bunch of chaos shenanigans.
They'll create a massive,
um,
sacrifice,
for example,
uh,
in order to pierce the veil and allow a demon
to go through.
Example like a psycher.
Tons of psychers have come around
since the opening of the Great Rift
and they don't know how the hell
they use their crap.
So over time that corruption in their mind
is like sharks to blood for demons
and they'll force their way through that.
Remember our warp hole suck theory?
Yes, I do remember the great
warp hole suck theory yet.
So they'll be able to use the suck
in order to get in.
Or not just that, but sometimes the demons
will just whisper in the dreams of mortals
depending on the things that is worrying them
or problems or like ambitions.
Yeah.
That kind of stuff.
And then right when it's time,
at a perfect moment to really sneak into your dreams,
bam, it'll grab it.
Is that kind of sort of what happened to Lorgar?
As in he was constantly, like, thinking?
Well, he was, he constantly heard, like, the whisper of the warp and shit like that.
Or the whispers of, like, chaos gods and all that shit, in his dreams and stuff?
Oh, yes, he was definitely constantly hearing the whispers of the warp, yes.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was just his genetic fault.
Maybe.
Because, like, Pritcherabo could always see the eye of terror, and that caused him problems.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know if it was necessarily the gods and the demons constantly whispering to him.
And then they had their little ritual where they summoned a little bit of demons.
Yeah, and then they lowered the Geller Field and let everyone become possessed.
Yep.
Yummy.
Yummy.
Much, many problems.
Oh, yeah.
But once the demon actually takes control of a mortal, whether willingly or not,
The physical form is basically entirely to the demon's will.
There is a bit of give or take.
That's the thing is that if it's like a regular human, you're kind of boned.
You're just not strong enough.
But we've seen multiple times, often people might bring in possession and think of it as like a symbiotic relationship.
Sometimes that's the case with particularly strong individuals.
Like Argyll tall.
Yeah.
Arjel Tal would be one that had a much more symbiotic relationship.
Yeah, they were like brother.
Well, not brothers, but yeah, symbiotic, sure.
We are Argyltal.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's sometimes and most often it's parasitic.
Think Captain Vandred of the exultant.
He didn't want that.
Very often the mind of the person will be pushed away into the dark recesses of their own body.
very much like Get Out the movie where it's kind of like you're in this really deep, dark black hole and you can just kind of see what your body is doing and you have no control over it.
You're like trapped in the recess of your own mind.
And sometimes they won't be that heavy though.
Sometimes the demon will basically maintain your ability to just do what you want with very subtle alterations to what you choose.
to do.
Like, they might take over a tech priest that has the control to the plasma reactors for a world
and just kind of turn them off.
Okay.
Or sometimes, depending on which God, they might just be like, oh, sick, new body.
And they just, like, mutate it to ungodly looks and just start murdering people instantly.
Oh, boy.
It all depends on what their overall goal is.
Okay.
Okay.
We have a little blurb from Shy, though.
Yeah, you want to read it?
Sure.
They just announced
New World Eater Possessed Dudes the Eight Bound,
virtually unrecognizable from the Mortal Space Marines they once were.
Every member of the Eighthound is each possessed by eight separate demons of corn?
What?
Wow, that's a lot of possession.
As you might expect, this makes them some of the most terrifying combatants in the galaxy,
warriors locked in a constant battle for their own souls.
Sometimes the spirit of an eight-bound world eater can even emerge triumphant,
becoming one with the eight-neverborn sharing its physical form.
These are the exalted eight-bound, even more dangerous and demonic than others of their kind.
Holy Jesus.
That's more of a shock and strength of the world eater than anything.
else that they can overcome
eight fucking demons. Eight of
them. Oh god, those are so cool.
Those minis are so dope.
Yeah, the new World Dealer Minis look really dope.
But I only had eight demons
and holy shit. And some of them took them over? What the hell?
That's crazy.
That's crazy. Like how strong of a world leader
you need to be to overcome
eight demons?
So
Okay, so hopping back our
On track with the demon stuff.
The, of course, there's something that's,
we talked about the great game before, right?
If we did, I'm an old man and forgot.
That's fine.
So there's two things.
There's the great game and the long war.
The long war is the phrase for the chaos space marines
waging war on the Imperium because fuck you, you're the Imperium.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so like, yeah, they always talk about, like,
There's lots of, what's it called, things in the Chaos Space Marine decks called like,
Veterans of the Long War is the idea that, wow, this is a space space man's been alive for 10,000 years,
and he's murdering you.
Right.
The great game is all of the chaos gods fighting each other for power.
Oh, okay.
Constantly trying to, because they're always murdering each other in the realm of chaos,
but they also want to spread their influence to real space, because it's, you know, it's more,
real estate. Yeah, that's how they get their power, right? Is, you know, humans believing in the,
well, not humans believing in them, but all the raw human emotions are kind of what feeds them and
makes them powerful. So, yeah. Raw emotions in general, but humans especially because they're so
fucking many of them. And also because humans are very susceptible to being taken over by demons. Yeah, and
being corrupted and yeah. Which, yeah, obviously does create this weird back and forth where it's like,
well, without the, they want to take over real space as much as they can, but at the same time,
real space is what feeds them.
Yeah.
So it's a bit of a give or take.
I think that's maybe just clever writing, where in that case, the demons will never technically
win because that means that the humanity can't like.
That means they starve, yeah.
Yeah, so that's how they're lucky or clever writing.
GW has both, so I don't know which.
Maybe, maybe a little from column A, little from column B, you know.
Maybe, maybe, you never know.
But anyway, let's chat a little bit about our first god.
Let's talk about corn.
Okay.
Blood for the blood god.
Blood for the blood god.
Skulls for the skull throne.
Corn is, you know, blood god, lord of battles, great butcher, all those various types of words and names.
Seen across the world in various cultures as just that god, the war god.
But there's a little excerpt in the,
this book from all four of the chaos gods and an incursion that occurs from them that I think
is particularly fascinating.
People tend to think of Korn obviously, well, he's obviously the murder and death god.
But it doesn't mean he disdains sorcery, hate psychers, that whole shit.
But people kind of forget that he's still like magic?
Like it's still like a demon.
Like it's still a ghost kind of thing, right?
Mm-hmm.
And so it's not just pure murder.
For example, in Warzone Tartora,
oh, actually, I want to read this first.
Tortura.
Extract from the writings of Malios the Seer.
He has like one for every single one of the chaos demons or gods.
It says, eight, the sacred number B of skull lord upon his brazen throne.
Eight the bloody rivers
And eight the legions cruel
Eightfold the damned
Upon the endless fields of battle
And eight times
Eight eight eight times eight eight times again
The legions loosed from iron gates
Ever eight though none knows why
Nor asks upon that road of skulls
Damn that's a lot of eight
Kind of crazy that his secret number is 11
I was gonna say
Is his secret number eight
Excuse me
Eight eight eight
8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8th 8th
So in Tartorae
And the hive worlds of this area were dealing with a bunch of just you know
Orks they they shot down a lot of the orc ships
but of course there were so many orc ships
that they all got through.
And it just led this
never-ending stalemate back and forth
of constant, constant battle.
And the preachers
and priests
were throwing sermons out
everywhere for,
you know, just for all the troops.
Yeah.
But the main thing
was that these sermons
kind of got angrier and angrier
and more hatred.
the preachers became just furious
and like this fucking Zenos
these green skins kill them all
instead of the usual God bless the emperor
and it was this
and eventually
the demonic cries
of the actual
preachers
had them in their vox
like the little vox emitters
they melted
and boiled into brass
and then moved and spread to the feet of the preachers
and encased them in tombs of brass,
constantly shouting their demonic screeches and yells of corn.
Oh boy, that sounds really, really bad.
The demonic war cry got so exceptionally, like,
just ridiculous that the Vox networks
would have corns demonic war car
I screeched through it
and burst the eardrums
for people who had the calm beads in their ears
and rents in reality
turned people into a
like a bloodied rage
turning their weapons on their own comrades
and in this violent hatred
and then on the eighth hour
of the 88th day of fighting
a war
melody and monstrous howl occurred, shattered every single window of every wall in every bunker,
and a fault line across the planet grew bubbling up with blood, and corn and his demons,
the demons of corn spilled through this bloody mess and wreaked havoc upon both orcs and humans
alike. Oh boy. Yeah, that does sound like the perfect place for corn. That does,
seem like a playground for him, but did
nobody notice
that the priests were getting very
angry and very sort of
heretical, and
nobody thought to stop them
from angry chanting?
Oh no, you don't seem to understand.
They weren't chanting heretical stuff.
They were simply chanting hate.
They were still chanting.
They went from a god emperor
protect us all to
God Emperor will rip the heads from the orcs body.
Oh, okay, got you.
The slaughter shall continue, that kind of thing.
Damn.
And also, these are guardsmen who've been fighting for 88 days.
That's, well, okay, fair, fair enough.
The constant murder.
I must say, I actually fought a guy who played some corn demons a bit ago.
Yeah, blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne
Excuse me, zealot, you're getting a little
Just a little crazy
It's a little crazy, a little crazy
But I must say that the in-game demons of Korm
They have this fun ability called warpstorm effects
Where you roll, I think, eight dice, and then for every four up, you get a point
And you could spend it on various warp storm abilities
and they're like, fury of corn, burning terror, overwhelming rage.
Wow.
Those are very corn.
Yeah, sure.
It's extremely corn.
It's very fun.
I like it a lot.
I must say the new corn, I don't know how necessarily good corn is on the tabletop right now,
but bloodthirsters, the big flying ones, are bad men.
They are bad, bad, bad.
Bad boys nowadays.
Well, those are the ones that gave Sanguinius a little bit of trouble, right?
Absolutely.
They were some big ones.
Even Mr. Scarbrand.
Scarbrand.
Literally has a flamethrower-style attack called the Bellow of Endless Fury.
Wow, that's a dope name.
Oh, God, that's cool.
Good old Scarbrand.
Anywho, next you've got, of course, our good boy, Zeech.
Zich
proliferating in the minds
of those with hope
those with schemes and greed
and the want
for more and the want to change
architect of fate
great sorcerer
because that's the thing is that
even those who have great intentions
can feed Zich
the downtrodden often
Like they might want to usurp a corrupt general.
Oh, yeah.
Or that would, yeah.
Yeah, like the one to feed a starving family.
The idea that like, the idea that you were dealt a shit hand and you in life, whoever, whatever the reason might be in life.
Like, hell, even in this day and age, like, people born to an impoverished area or maybe with a, with an unfortunate, like, birth defect or someone.
that thing that fucks with your life so much,
like the want for that to be better,
feeds zich.
Yeah,
it's not always a negative emotion
that feeds chaos gods.
Like,
I remember I used to have that sort of,
uh,
uh,
idea that like,
oh,
it has to be a negative thing to feed chaos because they're mean and evil.
And it's like,
no,
like just emotion feeds them.
It doesn't have to be,
uh,
negative.
It can be like,
oh,
I want to change the world for better.
And it's like,
congratulations.
You just fed zinches.
Zinch.
Mm-hmm.
Congratulations.
Your want and hope for a better future,
and to make your life better than it was,
is now feeding a chaos god.
Yep.
The Zinchen, like, actual models are always these just vast,
creepy things, like,
flippering, warped fire,
contorting faces that are constantly changing and adjusting.
They have, like, birds that swim and
stingrays that fly.
Oh yeah, they do have the flying stingrays, yeah.
Really weird stuff.
The Zincian story is in Warzone Garmesh, which is a fascinating one.
Excerpt from the Seer.
Nine, the towers that are not what they are.
Nine, the veils cast or truth untrue.
Nine times told the silent bell whose deafening peals are never heard.
nine the pages dancing with flames
nine the words and nine the names
and nine the lies from truthful tongue
gee I wonder what his number is
six
obviously it's three and a half hello
naturally
um so this one is interesting
the hive world of Garmesh
uh was actually
had a conclave of psychers
created after the great rift
arrived. And with this, they were blinded by faith in the God emperor because they believed that they
were appointed as his champions. This was a blessing brought from him. They had a horribly corrupt
governor in that under hive. And since they were like the low of the low, the downtrods and the
poor and the dishevelled, they used all of their powers together to read thoughts and enslave the
wills of their foes. They glimpsed at the future, conjuring reality, and instead turned the
underhives from the hunted to the hunters. The gangs and the zealots were the first, but then
the authorities joined their sides eventually as well. The problem was that this rebellion would
burn through the ridiculousness of this underhive, but the governor was able to lock themselves
away in their spire fortresses
and have their guards hold them back
and the guards were doing a good job
like it was just a death zone
and no one can get through
so with the failures
getting so close and the death's mounting
they were desperate and called upon
their powers once more
and the Lord of Change
Dizekhet Khazar
fucking
Zinci and thank you
Zinche names
were actually the one feeding them their power
the whole time and all nine of them burst into a warp fire and flame creating a portal on the
ground in which the lord of change the gigantic birdhead demon arrives oh yeah the twin birdhead yeah
and then from there just everything went to shit i bet it did the the sky the skies of
Garmesh filled with a kaleidoscope of clouds that world faster and faster, turning into despairing screams and a giant warp maelstrom.
It was really crazy what happened.
It was so, like the architecture of the hive city started to sprout extrusions and rearrange itself.
So no one knew where the doorways or crawl spaces might lead.
Gravity was adjusted relative.
position and causality were melted away,
the rebels and the governor's guards alike
found themselves trapped in mazes or stairways
that never ended.
They would, they would go,
they would fight each other walking on walls and ceilings,
or a stone wall would become flesh,
or a doorway would open,
and they would walk through,
and it was just the maws of a great beast
that would consume them.
Oh, boy, that is, I mean, that does sound befitting of the god of change.
Everything just changes and flips upside down and right side up and doors that go to
stomachs and walls turning to flesh.
Yeah, that sounds like the god of change.
I'll write, a chaotic god of change, but yeah.
You're a great horror situation where you're just like, you're a guard and you're running down
the stairs and the stairs just keep going.
And then you just had to turn, turn back.
and when you look back, it doesn't end.
That'd be like a great setting for a 40K horror game
is just you're on a planet that's being just twisted and turned by Zinch.
And you have to just somehow make it to like a transport to get off world or something.
Yeah, it's like a whole Silent Hill kind of stick.
Mm-hmm.
Ooh, that'd be, that'd be a creepy game.
Mm-hmm.
When eventually the Astropath sent their cry out to stop them.
before this actually occurred, the demonic part.
And shipmistress Endara was the name of the lady who was arriving.
And they looked at the skies of this planet and just saw it,
this kaleidoscopic turmoil as seen taken over the planet.
And to seven,
Vox, have you established a link with Governor Hable's high sanctum?
The pause before her Voxman answered only deepened in Dara's unease
as her crew were heavy veterans.
And she says, yes, ma'am,
but I make no sense of what I am hearing.
Rooted to my earbud, she said.
An instant later, and Dara wished she hadn't.
The cacophony that erupted through the Vox was appalling,
as it had simply been a wall of noise and bad enough,
but a confusion of babbling and screaming
and mathematical formulae were just chanted.
But the din vanished,
replaced by a similent sing-song voice.
It took in Dara a moment to recognize the words to the lullaby
her nursemaid used to sing to her when she was an infant.
And the nightmares came,
a song that so far as she knew,
the nursemaid had invented herself
and never repeated to another soul.
Oh, boy.
That's, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a nightmare.
Mm-hmm.
Yep, that's a,
I mean, at that point, it's like, fuck this shit, I'm out, turn the ship around.
We're going, mm-mm.
That, exterminatus that planet, would you please?
This nursery rhyme is now going to, that no one has ever heard in their lifetime is now being transmitted to your whole crew.
Yep.
That's creepy.
That's, that's cool, but it's very creepy.
That's, that's, ooh.
So next up, we got Nergel.
Good old Nergel.
Good old nerds.
I really don't need to talk much about Nergel.
He's almost simpler than corn, if I'm being honest.
Disease.
Disease, rot, drowning of miasma and pestilence.
The idea that, yeah, it's not just about decay and death, but also the birth of life.
Because guess what, when you die in decay, you get to birth maggots and flies and other things.
Hooray!
It's life and death and the cycle, right?
The cycle of life.
Mm-hmm.
The stagnation and entropy.
Your body will become the soil
and the soil will feed the earth
and the earth will give birth to a new life.
Everything that Zinch hates.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The, and you know, it's festers and all
in the normal ones.
Just your person is like,
damn, I really hope I don't die
from this sickness.
This would suck.
It feeds,
Feeds Nurgle.
Yep, it's not just the negative.
Please cure my daughter who has leprosy.
He's like, Nergel.
Nergel.
Feeding him.
He's just got a little snack.
Seven is the tally of the plague lord.
Seven, his sacred tale.
Seven fold the miseries that bubble and churn within his cursed cauldron.
Seven, the count of the guards of death.
Seven the reapers tithe.
Seven and seven and seven again.
The count drones ever on.
Ah, and his sacred number is 34.
You knew it.
I know.
And this is where the have a care, blessed soul, when you cry out in the night quote came from.
Ah, okay.
Okay, okay.
So, the feudal world of Mallior was within the segmentum obscureous, and it was a fortified mining compound.
The thing about surf classes of Mallior, Malior, whatever, this.
They have very little in the way of education.
They are much like the Gene Steeler Colts,
where they are the downtrodden and the extraordinarily impoverished.
Okay.
And with their, I gotta be honest,
this part is some real social commentary right here.
Some real social commentary.
Real social commentary.
Okay, okay.
The outbreak,
they had a outbreak of something called Wretchpox.
And this place,
with its very low level.
of education, believe that everything in technology and science were the domain for the
God emperor alone.
Mortals should not seek to master science and technology.
So when this Wretchpox outbreak arrived, the medical corps from the officio medicay came
and everyone there refused treatment.
because why would you get in the way of the God Emperor's blessing?
He will heal me through faith and prayer.
Oh, boy.
I've unfortunately heard this story before and, oh.
This is a, this is a huge bit of social commentary.
Yeah, I was going to say, this is, oh, this seems like total fiction.
This would never happen.
So they went to this place called Piety's Promise, and the rumors,
circulating that accepting a cure
betrayed a lack of faith in the emperor.
So village priests fed the flames
promising healing through flagellation and prayer.
And Wretch Pox continue to spread.
Unfortunately, Frater Kalamand,
a priest, recovered from the Wretch Pox
without any medical aim.
Could be just not that serious.
Could be a miraculous recovery. Who knows?
Regardless,
He deemed himself chosen by the emperor.
Oh, God.
And told people to lead a pilgrimage to his shrine in the Promulga Valley, and he would create
the right of cleansing, and all would be healed.
Oh, no.
So they made ways upon ways to the valley, allowing everyone, all the Medicaid's frantic
warnings to go unheeded.
Oh, no.
when they were
when they all gathered together
in the shanty towns built
they learned word of the astromilitarum
being dispatched to deal with them
and so they had very little time
so on that day of the right
he began his sermon
with Vox horn and servo skull
gathered with the faithful
and seven verses in
and seven lines into his orient
or his or a or oh my god
oration. My goodness, my bad.
It's okay. Seven verses and seven lines into it, he began to convulse.
And they believed that he was in fact gripped by the spirits of the God emperor.
Before he then erupted in a revolting spray of diseased fluid before the screaming masses
and his ruptured remains grew to the great unclean one known as Oblocothorax.
Oh boy, here we go.
Or obloxerax.
At his full height, he began this base level chuckle,
raised his hands in benediction,
and with seven words long,
all the last syllable across the valley,
the wretch pox blossomed and devoured its victims from the inside,
turning their flesh and their innards erupting from every orifice,
and their flesh into a melting bubbling ooze.
Nergel, Nergel fucks you up, man.
Like, oh, my God.
When the Mordian Iron Guard went over the valley,
they looked down and saw a lake of putrid liquid bubbling mass.
And the foot soldiers immediately became sickened from the valley.
And as they choked, the great uncleaned waded his,
way out of the lake with an army of plague demons at his side.
Oh, no.
Like, just, just, just the, the, the bubbling lake sounds gross, but to think of the great
unclean one, just wading out of it with this putrid army is just, oh, man, 40K has a way,
uh, has a way with, uh, words, I guess.
Oh, oh, boy.
And you can't fight disease and fever.
with Las bolts and bullets.
No, unfortunately you can't,
especially when you're sick and puking and vomiting
and it's kind of hard to fire when you're, you know, bent over,
puking your guts out.
If you want to hit up Shai's comment real quick?
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.
Most recent addition to Nergal family
is our friends, the Mobian 6th Guard Regiment
from Atoma Prime in the Dark.
tied game.
They got pushed into horrible war
with a demonic xeno race
and under insane pressure, disease
and psychological trauma
they said fuck this, we can't take
this shit anymore and turn to Nergel
so they could ease their suffering.
Oh!
So that, those are the green-eyed
guardsman? Yep.
Oh, that's their story. Cool.
I didn't know that.
Here's the image of Nergel on the Kodak.
Holy Jesus.
Notice how he's opening his belly fat with his hand for the mouth.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's something, dude.
Wow.
It's something, dude.
That is, that is some artwork.
Good Lord.
So last, last but not least, here's the Slanesh one, which is equally as crazy.
Oh, God.
I gotta be honest with you, I no longer want that tall glass of slinoosh.
Oh, come on, man.
Ooh, we.
Yeah, they don't fuck around in this book.
It is great.
Wow, that is, that's great art, though.
That is horrific and everything that chaos should be.
Wow.
The corn and zinch ones are also pretty.
You want me to show you those?
Yeah, sure.
All right, I'll show you those.
Well, I want to see, because that's, that's really good art.
I don't know who did it or who, whatever, but damn, that's some diamond shit right there.
Wow.
Teeth and mouths everywhere.
I am actually really impressed.
I mean, okay, so Warhammer Codexes have always been really good with their artwork.
but I think this
this demon one they took it to another level
I think this is like a new
new high for some of their artwork
the zinche one is pretty
nutty too
and I actually the corn ones
despite it being pretty classic
I think that corn one looks really dope
I love that the zinch one just makes no sense
like you can't even
like there are arms and wings
and mouths and teeth everywhere
and it's just like what is that
like it makes no sense
And it shouldn't because it's it's zingch.
Yeah.
And you can see like a bird, a head sort of and like a talon sort of.
But like that rolling mass of mouth.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Corn, pretty classic.
Pretty classic corn.
Yeah.
Pretty cool looking still though.
His head is pretty dope.
The other ones are so great though.
Corn is all right.
It's good.
But the other ones are so chaotic and just, ooh, I love it.
So, Slanesh.
Slenosh.
The Prince of Pleasure.
God of Unspeople.
speakable excess, she who thirsts, etc.
All about
all about ambition, all about pride.
The thing is that Slenish and desire,
the thing about Slenish is like,
we've talked a lot about this before,
but Slenish is often related with sex,
and Slanesh is not the god of sex.
They are the god of desire.
And desire often can be sex.
Yeah.
It's the excess of many things.
Sex is definitely one of them
because as the internet
we has learned,
most great advances in the internet
are for porn.
Yeah, obviously that's why
VR became a thing, so you could have more
realistic, you know.
Yeah.
Of course, naturally.
Oh, yeah.
Among us.
Sure.
But the Sonest intrigue is that
the power that
they gained is so
much more insidious
it's much more subtle
because you can think about like
you have a murderous blade wielding gladiator
that's a corn thing
but their obsessive need
to be the best bladesman
and the pride they get for their victories
that's Sleinesh
that's Sleinesh
yeah you might say
you might say that
a noble overcoming a political opponent
is a Zincian thing
but the opulence and excess
in their
fancy lifestyle and the plots they are making to deal with their political opponents is a various
slanesh so those ideas of entities of excess are a big part of it the cool thing is when
slanesh arrives how they arrive is really creepy and i think would go for a great psychological
horror so it starts off with this kind of like lifting music right this like half heard music
upon the breeze as a sound, like a perfume scent across the wind.
And the smells and the sounds grow more intense and have a bit of like unease,
almost like something acrid is underneath the air.
Okay.
And the faint smell, it starts off sweet, but then it's like tinged.
The tinge of like copper blood or like vomit or stale sweat in the air.
And it becomes more with its notes of music starts in the music if you listen closely,
it turns into insidious whispers and voices in the actual chorus.
And then there's a prickle upon your mind where you might just like have your gun just slip out of your fingers
or a tank engine might just stop moving because they're people just don't know what's happening.
then daylight becomes harsh
and prismatic and painful
and voices in your calm beads
start to speak and threaten and tempt
and compliment
and then you'll have a caress
on the back of your neck
or a feather light touch
raking your skin even with full body armor on
and from there
that's when they start to come around
Oh, that's just very uneasy and just very...
It's kind of subtle, right?
It's a little subtle, which is weird,
because they are the chaos god of excess.
So you'd think you'd be just this excess of, like, noise
and just really fast, just excess of gore
and excess of demons, and it's very subtle.
It's interesting.
It starts this way, and it gets there.
Yeah.
Because once the demons of Sletch arrive, the demonettes, the fiends,
they're their shrieks of ear-piercing delight as they rip apart your friends
and the grotesque packs of beasts and the knives along their bodies.
And yeah, like, the slaughter will eventually reach that level of excess
and the horrible corruption.
Takes a little while to get to the excess.
You don't start at excess.
You slowly work your way up to it until you're lost in it.
So Nesh is a subtle type.
Yeah.
And so their story is a little bit less intriguing to me.
But basically it was a imperial colony called Persephone.
And Drukari attacked them.
And they were saved by the Ultramarines.
But because of that, they had such a debt to the Ultramarines.
And they felt such incredible shame at being taken and enslaved by the Dukari.
that they worked really goddamn hard
to properly make themselves
strong, powerful warriors
like the ultramarines were.
They created six great clans,
six halls of excellence,
training arenas to become the best possible humans they could be.
And this eventually created
the six separate keepers of secrets,
It's the high heralds of Slanesh to take over each and every single one of these halls to martial prowess.
Yep.
The actual...
All that excess.
Everything got bizarre.
The entirety of each palace, all six areas were just these weird, like, habstacks and agricultural zones,
were these nightmarish transformations.
Stone and metal became quivering flesh
or a hue like crystal milk
or a white marble rithed with screaming faces
the fog banks were perfumed with sweat-warm musk
with lavender clouds
those who inhaled it
experienced such ecstasies of pleasure and agony
and mindless fury
with river with full rivers of wine
like it's
wow
yeah
classic slanesh
yeah very classic
that's a great image
of like a slaneshi
palace though
that was just posted
by shy
oh yeah
that's a great picture
the roiling level
of hedonistic
variance and stuff
really fascinating things
I learned to hear
also there's one other guy
to talk about
we'll have a whole episode
on him dedicated
but his name is Belacor
Belichor is the first
ever
demon prince but he is he is a chaos demon undivided oh is he the is he swole his shit is mini
like i mean i think like a black demon that's like uh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's the one yeah he's
buff as hell um yeah that's the man bellicor is the dark prince um he's this fancy kind of guy
on his own i he doesn't serve any of the chaos gods specifically we'll talk about him in
in its own episode.
His mini is
baller as shit though.
Wow.
Yeah.
That is very cool.
Yeah.
That is the one that I saw.
And yeah, he is dope.
That's such a cool sword too.
He is really interesting.
Anyway, that was kind of most of the things I was looking at in this codex.
I was reading,
they had this whole talk about what the God represents,
what their servants are like,
and then a story about them.
And it was really fascinating to me,
reading some of this stuff and seeing some of these various demons.
In-game, they have that Warpstorm ability,
but they also just have the thing where if they're close to your enemy,
then they lower their leadership because they're terrifying.
Yeah, naturally.
But they have this great ability where normally in the game,
you can teleport in nine inches away from your opponent.
But they have the special thing where they can teleport in the number of inches,
your opponent's leadership is.
So the more terrified they become,
the closer you can get to them.
And I'm like, that's such a good fucking translation
of like lore to game, you know?
It's really neat.
They also have like,
they have this very fancy demonic save
that normally can be adjusted with things
like armor penetration, but theirs can't be.
There's this like,
just this classic save of melee and rain.
So for example, like Zech demons.
Zeinch demons are much more like in shooting.
They barely ever can get shot,
but they can get punched really goddamn hard.
Okay.
They also have some fun things like Kyros Fate Weaver
is the Zeinch Lord of Change, the named one.
And he has the two heads.
And his rules are one head looks forward, one head looks back.
looks back, which is pretty fun.
Whenever he, like,
whenever he, like, rolls a test for psychic powers,
he adds the number, the battle round you're currently on,
one through five,
because one head looks forward.
One head looks back.
Oh, that's cool.
It's really cool.
Yeah, I like that.
There's, uh,
there's like Rodagus,
which is the named, um,
oh, the,
uh,
great, unclean one.
He has this, like,
he has this ability called streams of brackish filth.
Oh.
Ew.
It's pretty fun.
There's a lot of really neat shit here.
Yeah, chaos is chaos is chaos.
Chaos is chaos.
Demons are fucked, man.
That's, who, I really, I really liked looking into this,
into this book, and I was like, I wonder what I can find from here to make an episode.
I really like some of these stories.
Yeah, you found a, you found a good chunk of stuff.
I'm interested.
That Nergel one is so gross.
Oh, dude.
I know, right?
Oh, my God.
And you immediately knew when they were like,
oh, no, we're not going to take any medical service.
Immediately, it's like, oh, boy, this is going nowhere fast.
This is what, this is what it is.
You ever try to prey away your cancer?
Yeah, don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Medical science has advanced so far.
Just please.
Please.
Please.
All right.
That's, uh, that's it for me.
I guess all I got.
Folks.
It was a ton of fun
I really liked talking about the demons
I enjoyed hearing about the demons
and all their
Yeah
I think if I were to make a demon army
I think I'd make a Nurgel one
I think Nergel is a little weak
On the tabletop right now
But I just find them really fun
Also the gray unclean ones are like
Impossible to kill
Also Nerglings are funny
Yeah, they're interesting.
Yeah.
They're so disgusting.
The minis are so gross.
I know, right?
It's so good.
All that, fowls and stomachs and pus and just gross coming out of every.
Blah!
It's so fun.
All right.
That's all, folks.
Thanks a ton for stopping by.
It was a pleasure.
And we'll see you.
next week. Take me home, country road.
