Adeptus Ridiculous - CRAFTWORLD VEHICLES: GOTTA GO FAST | Warhammer 40k Lore feat Kirioth 

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Friedrichus Podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantis. My co-host is Bricky, although he's a little under the weather today. So he'll talk about it. And we have a special guest today, your friend in mine, Karioth. But before we get too far into that, if you enjoy today's episode and you feel like supporting your favorite, favorite, Warhammer 40K podcast, head over to patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. Consider supporting us. You get access to the Discord.
Starting point is 00:00:43 blupers if they happen, uh, the $15 tier gets all the HD posters. And yeah, patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Bricky, do you think you're going to be up for talking about the merch and I'm always up. I'm always up to talk about things that make me money,
Starting point is 00:01:02 D.K. Oh boy. You sound great. I, I have strep throat and unrelated pink eye. Nergel Sergill sat his fat ass on my face and it gave me two problems
Starting point is 00:01:17 It do be farted though That thing That thing do be farting Imagine how resilient You're going to be at the end of it though Disgustingly resilient Disgustingly Or he's just going to be a mindless zombie
Starting point is 00:01:31 That can't feel pain anymore I mean either One of these things is going to happen Wow wow Wow he's oh wow Shai is running off Yes merch. We have three new posters.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We have the Moth Girl poster for Detective Ridiculous. If you want to see Moth Man, but as a busty-ass-moth for some reason, that's available. And we have two other awesome posters, one with D.K., about to get shot by Shy, and the badass one. Those are all together. We were going to film the episode of Bellasarius Call The Great Work this week, but I'm dying. so we're filming that next week so finish the damn book all right
Starting point is 00:02:15 that's good I'm done yeah Bricky's done he's he's he's he's done his due diligence so we'll head it over to Kerioth
Starting point is 00:02:24 I really like the for some reason after the after the Mothgoal poster we know what the reason is because people buy them every time speaking of which
Starting point is 00:02:35 there is a little bit of follow-up business from the last time I was on how did the was it the Space Wolf poster? Oh, that's right. He was there last time. And it went exactly like I said it would.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We sold out of all 200 and 12 hours. That's, yeah, that sounds about right. I'm picking myself. I am kicking myself for not selling 500. I'm mad. Yeah, there's no more for me to plaster my walls. So, yeah, my walls are barren once again. I mean, just have to do a special edition reprint with like a fancy border or something.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Just, you know, you might as well, if it sold out that quickly, people will buy it again, surely. Yeah, just change the color of the eyes so it's not the exact same thing, so we can get around the fact that it was a limited print, right? Yeah, that's how, surely that's how many manufacturers do that stuff. It's the orange eye edition, right? You just change the saturation on only the eyes, and hey, we're going to, 500 more of them guys. We're not. Take the Wizards of the Coast approach,
Starting point is 00:03:45 reprint them, say that you're not allowed to put them up, and charge even more the second time. That's the best. It works. It works every... Oh wait, no, that actually didn't work, did it? No, that was a terrible idea. Don't do that. Yeah. So, Kierath, what are we
Starting point is 00:04:01 up to today? We have brought you here today for a reason. I don't know the reason. Usually it's it's ships, dreadnoughts, knights, something heavily mechanical,
Starting point is 00:04:16 tanks, so Keriath, I ask you, what are you doing here today? It's a mix. It's a mix of all three today, kind of, because we're going to take a look
Starting point is 00:04:28 at some craft world vehicles. Ah, okay. We'll start off with some of the smaller things for the Eldar. So they have a few different varieties of jet bike effectively. They've got the standard jet bike, single person on it, couple of light weapons, very fast, very maneuverable, used in little squadrons, but you can also get a slightly heavier kind of variety of that in terms of something called the Viper, which is pretty much a jetbike
Starting point is 00:05:01 with a bit of extra wing and a bigger gun on the back of it manned by a lad who I, I should Zoom is strapped in really well because, you know, turning corners, it could be bad for him otherwise. He's in Eldar, it's fine. They can handle the G's, right? Super light on their feet. Like, you'd think that they'd either be able to handle the cornering, or if they fell off, do a sweet backflip and land it, do the superhero pose? Oh, nice. Surely, if they can't do that, then they don't deserve to make it off. Oh, yeah, like a, like a banshee doing a backflip off of a jet bike.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Exactly that. I like that. I like the sound of that. God, their jet bikes are so cool looking. They're so sleek and pointy and I like it a lot. Yeah, the newer ones are the ones that Shai's just put in which the Raptor jet bikes. So you've got a couple of, you've got a couple of scouts on there. So they get to fly around at speed and also snipe people,
Starting point is 00:06:04 which you would think would be difficult, but they're elder. So it's not. Of course not. Those are the shroud runners, yeah? Those new ones? Yes. So they, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I love those. I think they're a great sculpt. They're like a nice sculpt date as well. They're one of the few craft world things that I think actually look really, really cool. Just the idea, like, how, they're going to have like a 200 mile per hour jet bike and some dudes are going to take a sniper rifle on. too. He's like, who else but Eldar? Also, is that a, is that like a,
Starting point is 00:06:44 I don't want to say a machine, is that like a blaster on the underside of the jet bike? So the jet bikes usually have twin-linked shuriken cannon catapults. Sorry, shuriken catapults. Shuriken cannon is the larger, like, beefier version. So you can either have two of the catapults or one cannon, and they're the ones
Starting point is 00:07:04 that fire off these like monofilament, rounds. So it's like it's like chucking Ashuriken, ninja style but they're launched at ridiculous speed and they're
Starting point is 00:07:19 like one molecule thick so they're like the sharpest thing you could possibly mass manufacture I guess. And they go through pretty much anything. People, armor,
Starting point is 00:07:35 they're pretty nasty. Yeah, I don't think I'd like to get hit by one of those It's one of the fun things about the elder I mean you probably wouldn't even notice it until you bled out Just leg falls off and you're not sure why That's probably Yeah Well, because it's moving so fast
Starting point is 00:07:51 You probably don't even have time to register that it hit you, right? It's pretty nasty It's pretty bad It's also something I really like about the Eldar weaponry is the fact that like Their basic weapon is just a physical thing. It's just like,
Starting point is 00:08:09 it just fires these monomolecular discs that slice through pretty much anything. When a lot of their stuff is like, it's kind of grown, they grow their, like, wraithbone stuff. They grow crystals and things for their like energy weapons. But when you get right down to it,
Starting point is 00:08:29 they are basically doing the ninja thing but using a gun to launch it. instead of chucking it. What a bunch of webes. Throwing Shuriken's at high speed. Weaves! Surely we can't take the weeb title off of Tau. Just from some Shuriken's.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah, I guess. Actually, I say that. Surely, they've got the backflips. They've got the spin moves. That's all pretty, uh, that's all pretty webe, isn't it? It's the, it's the type of webe. Tao have the Gundam webe.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Eldar have the teleports behind you. Naniweeb. Yeah, Tau are like the battle tech. Tows like the battle tech macross, Gundam webes, and the Eldar, the ninja, Naruto, ninjutsu, do the crazy thing with your hands,
Starting point is 00:09:21 weep. At the end of the day, Xenos, webe all round, to be honest. Oh, yeah. We're all the Imperium here. Burn the Zenos, right? I would like to distance myself from that statement.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Necloan supremacy. That's true. Don't label people as being not as racist as they could be. Come on. Let's be fair here. You've got to be fair. There is another jet bike that there is, like, this is one of the coolest things that Games Workshop has ever made, right? But it's a forge world thing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And it's the Hornet. and the Hornet is not like the other jet bikes so the other jet bikes have an exposed rider they're like quite small form they may have a heavier weapon but if they have a heavier weapon it's on the back and it's being you know aimed by a passenger or in the case of the Raptor Jet bikes
Starting point is 00:10:17 you've got a sniper on the back the Hornet is a fully enclosed scout vehicle oh those are so cool and it is the best I love this and I think it's one of the best Eldar designs that they've done Oh I love that
Starting point is 00:10:37 That is so dope It's amazing It also When going in a straight line Can get up to 600 kilometres an hour So it's pretty quick Um Shees
Starting point is 00:10:51 Wow that's a That's Okay So that's just That just blinks right by you You blink and it's going to like short range flight if you really want it to. So it's it's not only the best looking one they have access to in terms of the lighter like jet bike vehicles. It also is the most fun,
Starting point is 00:11:11 I think, of all of them. Ah, thank you, Shai. Shai said that's 372 freedom units. Thanks. Yeah, America. Woo. Oh. Poor breaking. Keep that in, shy. Well, I'm going to need an isolated clip of that to send to people. That was loved it. Yeah. I knew it was fast, but now I know exactly how fast.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So this thing can just have like shuriken cannons or scatter lasers, but it can also be equipped with like Brightlands, which are the Eldor equivalent of a Las Canon. So if you want like an anti-tank platform, you can use this to take out heavier vehicles just due to the speed and maneuverability, and it's the coolest. And I want one, and one day it'll happen.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It just seems like a frivolous purchase because I don't have an Eldor army. So it seems a bit daft, but it's so cool. I like the naming scheme, Bright Lance, It's very on the nose. You know exactly what that thing's going to do. It's just... Very, very good, Eldar.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Very good. It's way more efficient than the... No. No, get out. Absolutely not. Do you mean the one that, like, wraps around the... What are they, AT-80s?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah. Those ones? No. I see what she means, because it's like... The two guns on the top, kind of point out. It's not quite as boxy, but imagine
Starting point is 00:12:55 if all the, like, the open spots kind of filled up with stuff, it would look kind of similar. I mean, that's a stretch. Oh, it's a stretch. No, she's definitely, this is definitely a fucking stretch, but I get why she's I mean, that's
Starting point is 00:13:11 to take a pun eye of what I was used from Warframe, that's a prime to reach, shy. Die. I love how that started out supportive of the argument, and that And then immediately it went fully downhill at the end. Briggs, like, never mind, I suddenly agree with Shai completely. What's the meatball guy say? He's like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I ain't laughing, but I get it. That's what I'm thinking. Oh, yeah, from Aquitine Hunger Force. Yeah, that's a good one. That's fair. That's fair. No, I think before we go on to the, like, the full tanks of the Eldar, we should get something out of the way,
Starting point is 00:13:50 because this is going to be the most, I think, divisive thing that we touch on today. And it's a walker. See, the Eldar have got some cool walkers. They've got wraithlords and they've got wraith knights, and those both look quality. They both look really cool. Are those those where you have to have a soulstone of, like, your sibling to pilot them? Yeah, so the wraith knight is, it's piloted by one living twin and one dead.
Starting point is 00:14:20 twin for maximum maximum 40K yeah maximum 40k the wraith lord is just it's just a dead one but they do have something called the war walker and for me
Starting point is 00:14:35 oh I hate this thing the worst yeah I can't stand it it's I don't know I don't know whose idea it was I don't know why they did it I would like to sit down and have a lengthy conversation as to why you would even
Starting point is 00:14:50 make this thing to begin with. Oh my God! What is that? It... It looks like... It looks like, you know, when they show you the X-ray of like a uterus? It looks like that, but with, like, legs.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus. I'm sorry, where the fuck did that come from? What X-ray of a uterus? I don't know. That's just the first thing I thought of when I saw this weird looking T-posing thing in all red. Why have you been, why have you been Googling x-rays of uteruses, bro? What's going on that?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Oh, no, T.K.'s pregnant. Let's go. You know, I'm, I, congratulations on the baby. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. But it just, I don't know. It's, it's not good. Let's put, it's, it's not good. Yeah, it's not.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And, yeah, I do. does it have hooves? I have no idea. I don't know why that choice was made. Because it looks like it's... It looks like hooves, but also at a glance, it just looks like it's walking on tiptoes or it's got high heels on. It's just...
Starting point is 00:16:03 I don't understand why they were made. Oh, wow. That's... Oof. I mean, it's pretty much... It's just a little gun platform. You can stick bright lances or shuriken cannons on it. just bigger versions of shirican catapults, missile launches, and that's fine, but it didn't have to look like that, you know? It could have looked, it could have looked cooler than that.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Man, I cannot get over how ugly this thing is. Like, why is the canopy open? But it has a windscreen in front of it. I mean, you're not telling me that that's going to do anything to help anyone if gets shot. But why even bother with it? Oh, I hate everything about it. There's nothing about this I like. I totally erased the third edition version out of my head, and you've just shown it me again, and I'd forgotten that existed. I suddenly understand why they put the windscreen on that thing, because it looks so much worse without it, actually. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:17:09 See, I don't think it looks any better with the win screen. I just think they both look terrible in slightly different ways. They are both terrible, but out of the two, I actually prefer the one with the screen. on the front. Man, that baby carrier is so bad. Oh, God. Is it at least really, is it really good in tabletop, at least?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Like, is it just like, does it absolutely... I actually don't know. They're okay. It's, uh, the War Walkers are 55 points of model. A little more if you want good guns on them, but they're, uh, like, at some point, a T6, six wound model with a five-o Bindval becomes just kind of a pain to kill.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Not to mention that they move 10 inches and, you know, they're kind of fast. They're okay. They can probably go down a little bit. Okay. I do have to correct myself on something. I always forget this because my just overwhelming hatred for that vehicle blinds me as to what it can actually do. It does have force fields on the front of it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It specifically has force fields laid out in such a way that it's kind of have got like a sort of shimmery effect to it so it blurs and kind of makes it more difficult to see where you're shooting when you're shooting at it which gives allegedly the same kind of the same sort of protection as
Starting point is 00:18:34 it being fully enclosed but I mean just make it fully enclosed it's the same thing with the Grey Knight baby carrier where it says oh it's got force fields it's like being fully enclosed in the vehicle just do that then just do that just do that. Sorry idiots sorry idiots imperial guard sweep once again
Starting point is 00:18:52 Armand Sentinel extremely based Warwick extremely cring ATST yeah it looks like an ATST There is another version of the War Walker which is the Wasp Assault Walker And it just It's pretty much the same thing
Starting point is 00:19:13 It can just rapidly redeploy It's got a little jet system on it which is cool, but it looks too much like the other one. It's just got a slightly different face. And given that the problem isn't necessarily just the face, it's all of it. I don't know. He still doesn't do it for me. Still does not do it for me that one.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I don't know. The excuse of, oh, the reason there's no canopy is because it has an invisible force field that protects it. It sounds to me like we need a reason as to why we ran out of plastic in couldn't finish the model. There's a force field! I swear! It's also why every single Space Marine character can have no helmet
Starting point is 00:19:55 on, because they have like a fucking iron halo. Mm-hmm. It protects them. No, I swear. It's also, just from like a modeling standpoint, you know what looks cool? Armour. You know what doesn't look cool? Invisible force fields, because they don't exist.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You can't see them. So it just looks like there's nothing there and I do get the whole suspension of disbelief and you kind of have to do that with 40K because otherwise the whole universe would fall apart and no vehicle would actually function and every time a leaving rust fires it would flip over backwards but it's still like you're still gotta have
Starting point is 00:20:30 to like it needs to look cool for me and the whole force field thing it doesn't look cool it just looks like there's some poor sod hanging out in the open when he could have had a little bit of a cockpit around them or something yeah something that look cool
Starting point is 00:20:46 And especially when you contrast things like the War Walker with the Wraith Lord. Like the Wath Lord is, I think, objectively, one of the coolest Eldar models. Yeah. It's, you know, their version of a dreadnought, it's menacing, it's spindly, but it carries, like, a massive weapon, or either using a massive range weapon or a massive melee weapon. Like, it looks threatening and menace. and like it could just walk over to you and smash you to pieces. And even though it's like spindly, it doesn't look weak.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Whereas for me, the War Walker looks like a light breeze would knock it over. And it's just so different. The total lack of any sort of facial features. It's like, you know it's the head, but there's not... For me, when there's no eyes on something that looks like humanoid, it just makes it look more menacing for whatever reason. I'm not really sure why specifically that is, but just something that's totally featureless
Starting point is 00:21:51 looks more threatening than something with features, especially when it's like a construct of some kind. Slender Man! As soon as you said it has no eyes, I saw that one picture shy posted the first one, and I was like, oh, look, it's little glasses, and now that thing looks so much more goofy to me.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The little, oh, the little infinity. Yeah, the infinity thing looks like little glasses and now I'm like, oh, they're little eyes and I'm like, oh no, he's a droopy little dude. Oh, it does now. He looks like a droopy little dude. Why would you do this to me? I've ruined the Eldar for everyone. Oh, it really does as well. Now it looks like those, oh God, there's like, what is it, the Moomin's or something?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah Like the hippo-like ones They've got like the really long nose And then the little eyes at the top Yep Oh no He's just a droopy little dude Hanging on top of the Reith Lord
Starting point is 00:22:56 You're welcome, Kirio Oh Jesus Why? I was like, why did I show up today? I did I come in I should have called in sick Damn it Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:09 So what's next, period? I genuinely can't stop looking at it. So the chunkier, the chunkier kind of counterpart to the Wraith Lord is the Wraith Knight, which I think we did cover briefly in the general kind of Dreadnought episode. But it's still worth taking another glance at because I think it's one of the best models that Games Workshop have done for the Eldar. It is a little bit I feel like it got silly for a while there
Starting point is 00:23:43 where it was kind of obligatory that you had to have one no matter what you were doing but it still looks quite fast and quite maneuverable and it still looks as though it could be on you in a second even though it's absolutely massive and it's like a classic
Starting point is 00:24:04 heavy like large walker just covered in covered in guns absolutely covered in guns so the arm weapons that are on the first one there it's
Starting point is 00:24:21 basically a vortex weapon vortex weapons are I think the most like well the well known one is the D cannon or the
Starting point is 00:24:33 distortion cannon depending on whether you want to lengthen it there's been a few different names over the years. I think I'm sure I remember seeing it being called the displacer canon as well. And the D-canon is super fun because it fires and where it hits, it causes the material universe to collapse in on itself, like a black hole, but not a black hole, a warp hole. So if you're lucky, and you get hit by one, then you get crushed or torn to pieces as space in that area is just ripped apart. If you're really unlucky, you get sucked into
Starting point is 00:25:14 the warp. Oh, that's, that's messed up. That's a, that's a screwy Eldar gun. I can see why you would want to have two of them on your giant Gundam Wraith Knight thing though. Because, oh boy, that, that mess some fools up. It's, it's horrific. It's brilliant. It's so good. And it's like a, it's like on the gauntlet thing, so you could still technically, I mean, I'm sure you can't do this in the tabletop, but you could still have like another gun in his hands or like a sword.
Starting point is 00:25:46 His hands are free. Why not? Just absolute double up. All the weapons. You can hold some, you can have some sticking eye wrists, let's go. Exactly, yeah. Also, I just love wrist-mounted weaponry. That's such a cool, like, uh, action
Starting point is 00:26:03 or anime aesthetic to just you know? Yeah. Yeah, as shy says, the D-Canon in older 40K would just instant kill. They just got rid of whatever they were up against. They're really fun. A warp gun? Sure, yeah. The other thing they can have access to is Sun Cannon,
Starting point is 00:26:25 which is essentially a giant plasma cannon, but obviously better and more efficient because it's the Eldar, and their stuff is just more efficient than the Imperium stuff. As I was going through and kind of putting everything together for this, no matter where you look, at some point, wherever you're researching stuff, you will see references to, it's like this, but way more efficient because the Eldar made it. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I mean, it fits with the 40K lore, so why not? It just really hammers home how much more, like, just how far ahead the Elder kind of could, technically are, but maybe would be if they hadn't literally, you know, shagged a new chaos god into existence. Oh, they did a lot more than just shagging, though, to get Slanesh into existence. That's true. The, having too much sex was the least of their problems, I think, right?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Then they got into the murder, the torture, the murder torture stage play, the murder torture musical. Hey, hey, well, I will not have, I will not have disparaging of our Emperor's children's beautiful musical. Amara Viglia is art, art, I say. We wouldn't have the noise marines without it,
Starting point is 00:27:51 so you're right, you're right, I'm sorry. I've been a little harsh this episode. I apologize. I apologize. Shai has pointed out that in the actual rules, space marine stuff is often better. But the rules don't really reflect the actual universe a lot of the time, do they?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Especially since when it comes to just, you know, space marine as a whole, you're taking quite a lot of them. Whereas in a lot of the more popular books and especially games, Space Marine, the game being a prime example, like four lads, just annihilated all the orcs. All the orcs, yeah. And all the chaos. Everything chaos is gone. I'm sure in the upcoming one, you'll just, you know, storm your way through every tear in it imaginable.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And yeah, cool. So before we get off the walkers, we do need to talk about the Eldar Knight. Which is, it's a thing. It's a whole thing. It's basically a centaur. So at one point, the Eldar did have a sense. Centaur. They had a model for it in
Starting point is 00:29:07 Epic and it's complete with four legs and a big long lance gun and there we go. What the fuck is that, Curia. What is that? What have you shown me?
Starting point is 00:29:25 I, oh my, I... I love it. Well, not really. I can't make heads or tails of where anything but the legs are on that thing. Like there's a what?
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's best not to look at it too long. It starts folding your brain over. It's basically an exodite thing. So the exodite clans built or grew the night. And it's an interesting, it's an interesting look for sure. Yeah, it's like Wraith Knight size, so it's pretty chunky. It's pretty big. and there is like a
Starting point is 00:30:06 there's like a counterpart to it with the Slunash Night was it there was like a chaos version of it as well that was not Eldar but like a kind of kind of opposite to it it's not aged well I'll be honest I mean the fact that it's it's we've only got like we've only got an epic model to go off
Starting point is 00:30:28 is kind of kind of rough but they did, yeah, they had different versions, so they had a whole... The Hell Knight makes even less sense. Yeah, I, don't look, don't ask me. Is, what, okay, like, is that, is that supposed to be a cockpit? I'm just, right? You're supposed to put an Eldor in there and ride that thing?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh, I love it. So, there was also a Firegale Knight as well, which has quite the, uh, quite the catwalk model pose. Fantastic. Oh, yeah, I just... Yeah, the crews of these demon engines have long since died, but their soul live on as demons floating within the shells of their war machines. I just...
Starting point is 00:31:22 Isn't that just a soul stone, technically? Yeah. Pretty much. What? Carrioth, what is that? That's the fire gale. That's the fire gale. have you seen, surely you've seen the Peter Griffin that's all legs.
Starting point is 00:31:42 That's what that is. Yeah. Do those legs go all the way up? Why yes, they do. That's what that is. It's amazing, isn't it? It's brilliant. Oh, God, those are awful. The official art doesn't look like it's firing a gun.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It looks like it has its hand behind its back, like it's being all sassy. Yeah, it looks like it's got a hand. like it's got a hand on the hip like and actual high heels as well like actual high heels. Oh yeah it does. She's quite the choice. And the other one is a destroyer night
Starting point is 00:32:17 which is apparently doing a fancy ass dance there. I don't know what that pose is. Looks like it's got four arms and the top two are clapping. It's like a little jig. You've got the hands clapping up top. You've got a hand on one hip.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You've got another one that's, like, raised in the air. Literally doing a dance mid-battle. Yeah. Hips don't lie, dude. I don't know. So, oh, man. Do you want to go on to something that's less horrific than these? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Something that's just more graceful, nicer to look at. I was going to say, certainly these things fell out of style and have not been remade or recast or, and they just been cast into the warp and just forgotten. It feels like they're not coming back. And to be honest, I think I'm okay with it. I think I can cope with them not making a comeback, to be honest. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. So the next place to go, really, is the Falcon Grav Tank. Because the Falcon is essentially the rhino of the Eldor army where you have a metric shedload of different variants that are just built off this one single platform. Okay. So it's the transport, it's their anti-tank, it's their anti-infantry,
Starting point is 00:33:51 there are two different transport variations of it, in fact. It's also, I reckon, like, one of the most, one of the kits that's held up the best. Like this has been around forever This thing Yeah Oh these things are so cool They're really really nicely done
Starting point is 00:34:11 Hey they look like those snow speeders A shy No we're not good Absolutely not Sorry I couldn't know Stir in the park Everyone take cover
Starting point is 00:34:27 Oh no Shai's typing I'm doomed Yeah It's so on us when it happens isn't it At least tell my mom you killed me. Don't let her think that I'm still alive, okay? Kiriath, did you see the most recent fan art that football head did of shy? It's, it's, shy is typing.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, that is, that is accurate. Yeah, that's actually perfect. That is the exact face I was making when I saw a shy. type thing. To a T. To a T. But anyway, yeah, the tanks look great.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Even I've seen these tanks before, and they're fantastic. I just, I love, like, the sort of, like, bladed, I don't want to say wings, but like that bladed front that comes out, looks so sleek and, like,
Starting point is 00:35:25 I love it. Yeah, they're really nice, and they've got, like, it is a similar situation to the rhino, where you've got the Falcon, you've got the Fire Prism, which is dedicated anti-tank,
Starting point is 00:35:37 you've got Firestorm, which is like anti-infantry, night spinner, wave serpent, which is another form of transport, and Warp Hunter, which I really, really like the Warp Hunter, which is, again,
Starting point is 00:35:49 it's a forge world thing, model-wise. It's just one of the best-looking vehicles, and it doesn't ever seem to really age. It always looks good. Even though it's been out for a long, long time that kit. A long time. Yeah, that's one, definitely one of the better ones. It's like you don't really need to upgrade.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like when you start off with a good design, how much updating does it really need? I mean, sure, you know, you probably don't want that thing in metal cast or resin. But, yeah, good design doesn't need too much of an update. Yeah. So that's the Warp Hunter that Sharres put in. And it's just such a cool variant of the falcon. It looks like it's compensating. Did she
Starting point is 00:36:34 You should link the fire prism That's one of my personal favorites The fire Yeah, the fire prism There's a couple of There's The current one I believe Has got the bright lance on it
Starting point is 00:36:50 The prism canon though Is this Chunky Chunky Like crystal thing? Like I don't know I don't even know how... There we go.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Oh, what? It's... How? So, what, what, what, what, what does it do? Quite the look, isn't it? Quite the look. Yeah. So, what, what does it do?
Starting point is 00:37:22 What, like, is it just, does it magically fire... Fire? It's called the fire prism. So I assume it's like... Tell me more, Kiryoth. It is... It's a weird weapon, right? It's weird.
Starting point is 00:37:38 So you've got the two crystals in there. So you get like a charged chamber at one end, and then it goes through an acceleration chamber into a big crystal, which then traps it, and then fires it within a fraction of a second, and then it goes through a second prism so that you can either just annihilate a tank or you can disperse it to annihilate a squad of enemy infantry.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's a whole thing. So it's a really fancy laser light refractor? Yeah, pretty much. Oh, all right. It looks better now than it did, I think, to be fair. I was going to say, because there's that green. tank that has the giant prism on it, is that just without like the front part that'll, so does that just for like destroying tanks? Because it's not refracting it the second time and making
Starting point is 00:38:42 it thin. I'm pretty sure that that is the older version of the one on the red tank. Oh, okay. I just thought they were two different variants. Like you could run it two different ways. That's the thing that's like, they really change the design of that weapon, like really badly. For me, I actually, the old one looks a bit, a bit silly in a way, it looks a little bit goofy,
Starting point is 00:39:07 because it's so chunky. Like, it's just a big chunk of, like, diamond stuck on the side of a turret. But it was, it was super distinguishable. Yeah, I actually like that one better. I think the new one looks, like, it doesn't just look like a Bright Lance.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Brightlances don't look as like, there isn't a crystal involved with the Bright Lance, but I feel like at a glance, you just, you can just tell what the big, chunky one is a bit easier than the newer one. Yeah, the new one, it looks like it could be any of their sort of like long, slender, like, guns. But like the big chunky green is like, oh, damn, that has a giant diamond on the end. That's got to be the fire prism. That's got to be Kane. So yeah, I actually like that one a lot more. Also, D.K. Diamante's likes the big diamond one.
Starting point is 00:40:02 No way. The crowd is shocked. Absolutely blown away. Everybody blown away. Completely shocked. In the tabletop, they had this really fun thing called linked fire where you could take like three of them and only one of them had to be able to see the opponent. And then you would like fire the energy of the crystals to link up like combine the
Starting point is 00:40:26 beams, like the beam cannon in command and conquer and just send out like one turbo laser from one guy. It was really cool. Oh, that's so sick. I love that idea of like linking up the beams. Oh, dude. Or it'd be really cool if like you still had the giant
Starting point is 00:40:44 green one and then like there were two other tanks with the slim one that fired into the big one and it just mega cannon. I never played Red Alert so I don't actually know what that I can picture it. beam cannon, the beam cannon was a nod unit in Tiberium Wars and it was like this tiny little buggy, but if you combine a lot of them together, they would combine their beams and then do like a whole
Starting point is 00:41:09 shillot of damage. It was their artillery unit. It was really fun. I love it. Any, anytime you get like big, big F off mega cannon, I'm, I'm on board. That's such a Gundam move. I love it. Yeah, this is why the War Walkers are cringe. Um, because they, they, they don't. understand what makes a real Walker cool and that that is the Command and Conquer GDI juggernaut. The fact that the
Starting point is 00:41:38 Militarum don't have something like this is a crime. It's a howitzer on legs. It's three howitzers on legs. The little Millennium Falcon cockpit. It's so cool. Design choices, right? I'm getting literal flashbacks
Starting point is 00:41:56 looking at that. I was good Yeah, Shai That is That might as well be an Ork unit With how weird and goofy And it looks like it shouldn't work
Starting point is 00:42:06 It looks like it should fall over to the right Like those cannons Looks so heavy that it like It should just tip over So it has on the back of its legs It has little Little supports That place
Starting point is 00:42:20 So oh that's I am Oh no Shai don't do it Oh Epic and Bedfield Laugh at this user Oh Damn it. I want to show off my Command and Conquer unit.
Starting point is 00:42:31 They have little flaps that stabilize it when it fires the howitzers. It's actually really fun. That's another big anime move. It's like, you know, when they've got the Mega Canon, the little things pop out from the back of their feet and just chunk into the ground so they don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I like it. Listen, I'm just saying. Cool aesthetic. I'm just saying, GW, you can learn a little bit from Command and Conquer's units, okay? They have some dope shit. I mean that's just a more fancy Bainblade, surely Shut up
Starting point is 00:43:01 That mammoth tank just looks like the top turret on a tank But with like four treads attached to it Yeah, it's more maneuverable And probably more realistic to the Bainblade Which is a brick on treads Bricky doesn't like the brick on treads What are we doing? I said realistic, I didn't say it didn't like it
Starting point is 00:43:22 Oh, okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, now we're okay Anyway, what were we actually talking about, Eldar-wise? We were on the Falcon platform. Oh, we were on the Diamond thing, the Fire Prism, right? Yes, yeah. So we got, I'm not entirely sure how we got, that was it. We can trace it back. We didn't talk about the fire prism.
Starting point is 00:43:42 The fact it had the rule to combine the different shots, and then onto the nod buggies that could do the same thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes sense. Yeah, you got to run it back a little bit. You got to do a little backtracking. We got there, we got there. Yeah, all right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Something that's worth noting about the Falcon platform is that pretty quick, pretty fast. So the combat speed is 80 kilometers an hour. What's that in freedom units, man? Freedom units, that'd be what, like 60 something? Something like that. 55. Oh, wasn't far off. The estimated maximum speed, 800.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Uh, what? Yep. I'm sorry. The estimated maximum... It only says estimated, but I have found that across multiple, multiple sites where the estimated max speed is 800 kilometers an hour for this gravtank.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Okay. Which is insane. That is very on brand for the L-DAR, but even still. So what does this thing look like again? The Falcon platform? What does this look like? So it is literally...
Starting point is 00:44:55 Oh God, I can't believe that that is actually a thing. It's literally just all the ones that look like that. Oh, it's that one. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. It's just varying flavors of those. Oh, man, that thing going that fast. I feel like it's estimated because only the Imperium will try to bother and record that and wouldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. There's just some tech priest who's like, if I actually, inform a superior as to how fast that thing's going, they may kill me just out of sheer anger. So, estimated. I wonder how Eldar determines speed. Like, did they use kilometers? Do they use miles per hour? They probably use, like, units.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Wow, thanks, Brickie. No, there was, like, 40,000-something units. Like, I don't know. Oh, okay. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. It just popped into my head. I was just curious how Eldar do that shit. My cardsman primer says Eldar is slow and dumb. You want to argue maybe this comments are going to help. That sounds about right, to be honest. Oh, the primer. It'll get you the least prepared for the Zenos.
Starting point is 00:46:18 That's heresy. So, we're still on the Falcon platform or tank or whatever? I reckon we should shift over from the Falcon platform to the super heavies. Because everyone's got to have super heavies. And Eldar still have super heavies. So they still get the, they still get giant floating tanks. The scorpion being one of them, which, because of the max speed thing, from what I could, from what I could see, 280 kilometers an hour maximum speed for the scorpion, which. is quite fast
Starting point is 00:46:55 because it's this size. It's massive. Wow. So you can see that the little canopy on the falcon, like on the turret, it's the same size on the scorpion,
Starting point is 00:47:12 the little canopy on the top. So it's a good way to just get a rough idea as to size. It's a little bit bigger, for sure. Also, looks like they're maybe overcompensating a little bit with those bright lances? What are the big giant cannons on the front? They're basically bright lances, they're pulsars. So just the traditional thing of a las cannon, but way bigger.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Man, I love that aesthetic of like the two sort of wing blades coming forward. Like that's just, that's a great design. It's no wonder they use that for like all their tanks. and I don't think they use it for their jet bikes, but still, it's a, I love that aesthetic. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's still look quick. Well, they are still quick. But they still look quick. They're still, it's gonna say, look quick. They are quick, buddy. For a super heavy, those things move there, they are some moving. So scary. Yeah, as, as shy has pointed out, the, um, the pulsar version of the, like, the, the, like, the,
Starting point is 00:48:21 weapon on that. They direct threat to Imperial Titans and can slice a Lehman-Russ battle tank in half with a single shot. Oh! So these are tank busters! Wow! No, D.K.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Tank busters are orky. Are they? Orcs have a unit called a tank buster. Oh, do they actually? Yeah, direct tank busters. Oh, I didn't know that. So a slightly, I would argue that this is actually in a way a little bit more scary,
Starting point is 00:48:57 super heavy that they have access to, is the Lynx, which has a slightly different design, which I really like, because it's not quite as powerful in terms of the weaponry, but it is faster. It's faster than the scorpion. it's more maneuverable and it can do short bouts of flight, which is... Yeah, I guess when you're going that fast, sure, you can take on. Terrifying. It's still got one pulsar on it, so it's not like it's got no gun.
Starting point is 00:49:37 It still has, it still has a pulsar, or it can have a sonic lance for, like, anti-infantry. But the fact that they've got one of those guns on something that is even faster and, more maneuverable and can fly for a little bit. I love the fact that that exists. Yeah, it doesn't look bad. I think it's the, that it's not symmetrical that kind of gets me. Like it feels like it could very easily have a second Pulsargon on the other side, and it would actually make it look quite a bit cooler and sleeker. See, I love like asymmetrical stuff. I really like it when one part of a vehicle is, when it's just got that kind of separation or the weapon is fully mounted on one side of it, I really like that. So the links, I've always, I've always loved the links.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. That and the, uh, the cobra, they, they both like, they're both great for me because of that kind of asymmetry. Yeah. It's just, yeah, for me, I think I would like it more if it was symmetrical, personally, because I feel like it would look a little sleeker and you could have that second pulsar, so it's just like really like, it's moving fast and it's hitting hard. There is a second cobra version, so that's the current cobra, which is not that dissimilar in a way to the links. It's still not as, it's still not as fast, but it has a gigantic D-canon. so that massive gun in the center of it is the one that opens up warp rifts like just collapses it so that's terrifying by itself
Starting point is 00:51:28 just the fact that a decan in that size exists there is an older version if you prefer a more symmetrical look which is that oh man actually that looks like oh I'm gonna be the only one that gets this reference because I'm probably the only one nerdy enough to be this into transformers but looks like when Galvatron transforms into a candy And in the Transformers 1986 movie,
Starting point is 00:51:51 yeah, it looks like Galvatron. Except not purple. Or, well, I guess he's kind of blue. Yeah. I was going to say to me, that just looks like it, that looks like an iron. That looks like something you would put on clothes
Starting point is 00:52:00 to make them flat. That's all that looks like to me. Oh, yeah, it does. I can't see anything else. You know, that's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah. It's, it's not, it's not the best look. Yeah. So what's next? There are a couple of other super heavies that don't currently have models for 40K. I believe these were both epic, epic ones. So Storm Serpent and the Void spinner, which kind of, I mean, still very similar designs to the other ones.
Starting point is 00:52:37 But, oh yeah, I forgot about The Tempest. Which, that, I mean, as Eldar, it's very different. I'll put it that way. It's very different to some of the others. That tempus looks like if Warhammer 40K started a micro machine line. It really does. There's something about like the, it's just so boxy. It's weird looking.
Starting point is 00:53:05 It's so, yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't like it. It just doesn't have that sleek Eldar look to it. I mean, I guess it's from a long time ago before they really had the aesthetic nailed down. so you can't fault it too much but yeah it just it doesn't have that really clean Eldar look to it and let's be honest
Starting point is 00:53:26 that's one of like the main draws to the army for me is just how just how clean and sleek it looks and the fact that even the heaviest vehicles still look fast yeah they still look like sleek
Starting point is 00:53:41 like they could just cut through the air yeah I just love their vehicle design That death stalker is just a little phallic, just a little bit. Just a tiny bit, just a wee bit. Just a little bit, just a wee bit. It's a bit. One might say that's a fallacy, eh?
Starting point is 00:54:01 I can confirm it's a penis. Thanks, Bricky. You're welcome. Bricky's still here, everyone. He can't confirm that. Nothing gets me more wanting to talk than seeing an Eldar penis. I think we should move on. I definitely think we should move on.
Starting point is 00:54:21 This is the hemlocked Raith fighter. Oh, sick! I love that jet so much. Oh, man! Let's go! That's so cool! It's fantastic. So it has like a...
Starting point is 00:54:38 The pilot is a spirit seater. So it has like a little miniature infinity circuit in it. and it's so good because it has spirit stones within the fighter itself. So if, say, the pilot gets knocked out or killed, the spirits actually in the hull of the fighter can continue to operate it at a basic level, even if the spirit sees incapacitated. Oh, so it kind of becomes a pseudo-eldar dreadnought airplane? Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Oh, that's so cool. I love this thing. It's also one of the best looking aircraft in 40K. It's so good. The weapons that it has on it are D-sides, or at least this one has got heavy D-sides, and a D-sithe is kind of like a D-Cannon, but a bit more direct in a way
Starting point is 00:55:38 because it just rips the souls out of the enemy and shoves them into the warp. Oh, oh boy It's a bit less of like a little kind of miniature black hole or warp rift And it's more just ripping the soul from the body And depositing it in hell effectively And it also doesn't leave behind knee damage So when this thing fires on someone and kills them
Starting point is 00:56:03 There's just a corpse left Yeah Yeah, but there's no obvious Like there's no obvious impact or anything left behind, which also is incredibly dark. Yeah, that is really, you just come to a soulless corpse and it's just no damage, nothing. It's just, it's like it fell asleep and never woke up. And it's like, that's creepy.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I don't like that. I would not want to fight the Eldar. Like, because it's like, you fight anything? I was like, okay, I died. That sucks. And it's like, the exact, it's like, oh, yeah, by the way, you're in hell now. It's like, what happened? I was fighting and now I'm in the warp screaming.
Starting point is 00:56:43 What happened? Why may? I just heard the vague sound of an aircraft, and now... Now, I'm screaming and being tortured in the warp, and it's like, oh, man, no relief. It's also something they don't like deploying as well, because it's like a horrific weapon. It also amplifies the Spirit Sears' abilities. So it's got something called a mind shock pod so that it can just cause a wave of terror as it attacks people. so it makes them panic and then they get dumped in the warp
Starting point is 00:57:15 it's an awful vehicle man that is a horrible weapon oh my god I love it I mean Slanesh must love when they use this thing you feel like it's got to be it's got to be super taboo
Starting point is 00:57:35 whoever came up with it I've got an idea tell me if this is too much given our entire history with this particular chaos god. But what if? Hear me out. Hear me out, guy. Don't shoot me straight away.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Let's at least talk about the benefits first because you're not going to like this. Yeah. Damn. So alongside that, they also have the night wing, which is a little bit of an older forge world thing. For being older, it looks all right. I'm okay with that. It's okay. The hemlock is so good that it kind of makes the nightwing look a little less.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah. Like clearly not as cool as the hemlock, but for being an older model, if the hemlock didn't exist, I would think that's pretty cool. Oh, you're right. I totally forgot about those. Shai, yeah. New night wings for aeronautica. Those night wings look real spiffy.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I like those a lot too. They just look a bit sleeker than the older one. Yeah. They're not like totally different, but they definitely seem a bit more, just a bit more like, yeah, like kind of smoothed out and, yeah, those look a little bit better. Yeah. I think probably scaled down, it loses a lot of the weird angles that it's got going on. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I mean, again, still, good-looking ship, even the older one, good-looking ship, but man, the hemlock just blows it out of the water. downside of having one particular aircraft that is just one of the best in the range it's like comparing all the others it's like it's pretty good but it's not as good as that no chance so this one has got two shuriken cannons and bright lances so pretty like standard weapons there's nothing completely insane about the pilot for this one it's a relatively normal relatively normal fighter um there is a kind of hemlock variant
Starting point is 00:59:40 which I like I don't know if I like it as much as the hemlock itself but it's still a decent looking that's really cool I do I like that more than the hemlock it's difficult isn't it the Eldar planes have caused me so much pain
Starting point is 01:00:01 but they're so cool it makes me hard to hate them yeah it's it's close between that and the hemlock. It's really close. Well, I'll just say I like them both. Oh, man, they're really... Eldar playing so good.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah. It's the Nightshade Indector, that version of it. Yeah, that is a very anime name. You're right, Shai. It really is. I like the name, yeah. It's piloted by a Crimson Hunter, which is an aspect warrior,
Starting point is 01:00:35 which just does murder. by aircraft, pretty much. That's what they do. So pretty focused in. They know what they like and they do it. Cool. It's pretty much the same setup as well as the nightwing in terms of the loadout.
Starting point is 01:00:54 You've got two bright lanterns on it and there's a pulse laser as well. So it's not that dissimilar really. Yeah. Just a different design. Yeah. Does it move faster at all or is it just literally? just a different design? It's pretty much just a different design.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Okay. So in terms of like which one would be stronger, the hemlock would probably be your heavy hitter, and this would be, this seems like it's kind of just like your everyday fighter that you deploy. It's kind of one of those things where they're both, they've both been made to be ridiculous. Because the hemlock has, it's got the, it's got the spirits here,
Starting point is 01:01:38 and it can send out a wave of terror and panic and it's got the hilarious de-sides and just shunting people's souls into the war but the nightshade interceptor is piloted by Crimson Hunters who are like ridiculously rare type of aspect warrior so they're like the best of the best at piloting stuff
Starting point is 01:02:04 so it's like it's that kind of simile overpowered but in different ways kind of approach that games workshop loves to do the nightshade interceptor is overpowered because of the pilot not necessarily because it has a ridiculous loadout
Starting point is 01:02:19 yeah yeah I don't know how to introduce this thing I'm just gonna put it in this is the Phoenix and I feel like you either love it or you hate it and there's no middle ground I love it I think that's pretty great it it looks like it it belongs in Batman
Starting point is 01:02:37 It looks like a battering, I hate it. It does look like, yeah. I kind of switch between the two. Like every few months I remember it exists, and I'll either suddenly go, actually, no, I do quite like that, or I'll go, oh, I forgot that thing exists. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:02:52 There's never any, I can never decide which way around it is. I like it. I think it's still got that kind of nice, sleek, bladed Eldar look. And it's a little different from like the other. planes and the other stuff. I like it. I think it's cool. Actually, it kind of looks like a Klingon bird of prey. It does a little bit, actually. A little bit. Yeah, no, yeah. That's, I see, no, I don't know. I'm undecided. I'll tell you what. Especially in that orange
Starting point is 01:03:23 picture that shy posted, it really looks like it belongs. Yeah, it looks amazing in there. Yeah, it looks really good in that art. So that's still, that's still a fighter. There's quite a few different fighter variants for them. They do have a super heavy gunship, which is the vampire hunter. Don't know why they called it that. I'll be honest. I've got no clue as to why they decided on vampire hunter. But there, these, these look like now, now all I see are cling on bird of prey's. That's that's yeah, this one's super bird of prey. Yeah. It's like almost, I wouldn't say exactly the same shape, but not that far off. It's pretty close. If you painted that thing like green and red, I mean, it's pretty close.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah. Yeah, it really is. It is pretty cool, though. So there's two varieties of this, basically. There's the vampire hunter and the vampire raider. The raider is one that has transport capacity. Okay. That makes sense for being a raider.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's about sort of Thunderhawk equivalent, which just plunges down to, down to ground level it can go maximum recorded speed is 3,200 kilometers an hour which I did look at this earlier
Starting point is 01:04:47 and then I've immediately lost the it's ridiculous that thing that thing moves there we go 2000 essentially 2,000 miles an hour that's uh yeah that's that it moves
Starting point is 01:05:03 It definitely goes kind of fast Gets down nice and quick drops everyone off and then leaves The vampire hunter Which has no transport capacity Is full of weapons So missile launches
Starting point is 01:05:18 Scatter lasers And it has a Titan-grade hollow field So it's like It has like the same shield That Titan does That one is Even if you could like I mean this thing is moving so fast
Starting point is 01:05:32 It's like you can't even lock onto it, and even if you could lock onto it, it's got a field that's as strong as a Titan, you said? Yeah, it's pretty nuts. Oh man, there's no, how do you stop this thing?
Starting point is 01:05:48 Prayer, probably. Just pray. I will say the non-transport one, so the vampire raider, the transport one, that's got like 2,000 miles an hour, 3,200 kilometers an hour.
Starting point is 01:06:02 The vampire hunter, is slightly slower than the radar. So the hunter is 3,100 kilometers an hour. So it is a little bit slower. Oh, yeah. By 100. You really had to notch it down. For that transport capability, you really had to stunt that speed, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:22 Jeez. It's true. I did do a quick Google to see what the kind of equivalent was and how fast things were. I think it's still just It's just the size of these things as well Like they're not They're not small aircraft And I know the Blackbird isn't small either
Starting point is 01:06:45 But it's just The idea of something that big And that quick Having a literal force field around it When it's you know Plummising towards the ground covered in guns Is pretty scary Pretty scary.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, I would much rather be in one of those than in a Thunderhawk all day. Those blow the Thunderhawks out of the water. Design-wise, speed-wise, granted, I don't know the exact load-out of a Thunderhawk, but I would assume the load-out is better, too. Like, they're so much cooler.
Starting point is 01:07:26 The Thunderhawks do have a full-on battle cannon on them for some reason which is mounted on top of the aircraft because that's definitely way we're referring to the Space Marine Thunderhawk right yep that thing is the size of a small train
Starting point is 01:07:44 I like that thing a lot it's big I still I just I love the gun on top of it I love it it's so it's so it's a transport ship wouldn't you want it like more towards the bottom so you could like clear the LZ so you can land
Starting point is 01:08:00 the top. The troops. No, you don't get it, D.K. You're flying. So just, you know, angle yourself down for a little bit. And then just fly towards the floor. How silly of me?
Starting point is 01:08:12 How silly of me? And let the insane recoil send you back to normal elevation. Yeah. You're right. I'm sorry. You're right. You're right. How stupid of me.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Hey, our best boy, Septimus piloted one of these things, remember? That's true. And he piloted it like an absolute monster. Like, he would. He was drifting this thing. That's fair. Okay. I still like the Eldar one more.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I mean, the Eldar one is objectively cooler. It's also the Night, the Vampire Raider and the Vampire Hunter are the last two that we had to look at. So we've somehow managed to end the Eldar one with a space marine, a space marine flyer. But we can do the direct comparison, which is the most important thing. And on account of it, not being a flying brick, I'm going to say that the two vampire class
Starting point is 01:09:06 aircraft win. Yeah, definitely. I think that's fair. I disagree. I disagree. We have not... Yeah, but you're... It's two to one, so your vote doesn't matter anyway. We have not talked about the Dark Eldar Tantalus. Oh, hello. What's the Tantalus?
Starting point is 01:09:28 It's a baller fucking thing, man. Okay. Oh, that's right. It's a Kraft World episode, Bricky. So we can't talk about the Tannelis, because this is Craft World. Dark El Fariner. Oh, you're right. Can't do it.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I really just suck if I just post it. Post it a link. I was going to say, wave the link. There it is. It's not actually loading for me. Please load for me. God damn it. It's not loading. It's not loading.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's not loading. We can't see it. Epic. Epic! Fail. lever this user! Yeah, I've got infinite load here. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Oh, no, now it's just the little shit. Oh, no. The little poop emoji's right there. Oh. Oh, shy. She was feeling generous. Holy. That's very, very cool.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I will, I, that is, if this wasn't a Craft World episode, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would be with you on that, bricky on that being the coolest. Ungabubba, Bubla, Han Solo. It looks like a skiff, okay?
Starting point is 01:10:40 It does look like that. That looks way cooler than a skiff. You know what, shy? Good, good point. I totally forgotten about the Void Dragon Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I totally forgotten about it. That's... I mean, like, that's not bad, but it looks so much like the, um, The other one, the vampire, whatever, is.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Maybe a little sleeker, but it kind of has that same vibe to it, so... It's not bad. It's fine. It's fine. It's not bad. Yeah, I like it. But it's, it's very, very similar to the vampire ones. It's the, so the, it's basically just the bomber version of the, of the, of the Phoenix that we looked at before.
Starting point is 01:11:26 it's cool it's all right nothing wrong with it yeah it's stupid I hated rocked I really like that tanless tanneless sweep I did I mean this is a craft world episode
Starting point is 01:11:41 so the tanness isn't up for vote Bricky listen I got sick today which one of the gods telling me I can't shit on craft worlds today and they could try as hard as they want but they can't stop me Can't stop, won't stop. They tried to take you out and you weren't having it.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yep. So that's it, Curionth. Is that, uh, is that, uh, we, we hit all the boxes. We check all the checks. I think so, yeah. There's, uh, there are, of course, Titans, but that's its own whole thing. Yeah, we'll have to get you back for another episode on Titans. Which would take this even longer than it already is.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I feel like a Zenos Titans thing should have its own little entry because there's some really cool stuff Seriously, hey guys, I've got another idea Please have me back Oh, I've been rumbled, no Hey Wait, hang on, let me salvage it
Starting point is 01:12:40 Or you can just, you know, do whatever you like I don't care, you do it You've already been exposed We've exposed it right at the end We've exposed you, don't worry, I would do the same thing You gotta do, man, survival is the fittest. It's right. I'll just send another suspicious package to Bricky in the mail so that he's ill again and then... Oh, hell yeah, bro. Anthrax.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I've still got a little... I've still got a little bit left. I can send you some more. Shai said you forgot the support weapon battery. Is that a... Is it a vehicle though? No, no. That thing ruins my tabletop experiences. I don't want to talk about it. I don't know if I count that as a... Well, yeah, I mean, I guess there is a dude sitting in it. I mean, it's just a, that's just a turret, right? It's just a turret.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I always have that down as, like, kind of artillery classification. It's just like, it's just a gun on a thing. Does it move at all by itself, or is it just stationary turret? I hate how these look. I know that has not answered the question, but now I'm just looking at it. and I just They're so top-heavy It looks
Starting point is 01:13:56 To an insane degree It's just It's a turret It's like It's just a turret with Eldar paint And it's just there's nothing Yeah I don't like it Let's be honest
Starting point is 01:14:09 They're just a bit They're just a bit boring aren't they Yeah Just a little bit boring It exists It exists That's enough It's not
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah A mobility scooter with a giant gun Yeah, brother, I love my man, God Let's go I didn't want to be the one to say the first Like five words in case I got in trouble Even though it's not me who said it
Starting point is 01:14:38 Oh, it's very, very American Walmart mobility scooter You know, yeah Shai's right on that one I've been to Walmart a few times I used to grocery shop there when I was low on cash in college. And yeah, that's, yep, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Were there many mobility scooters with guns attached? Or is that a silly question? Because it's clearly yes. Okay, there weren't any guns attached to it, but I, you know, there were a lot of You know, I lived in California. We lived in California, and you know, California compliant mobility scooter means no guns attached. California compliant mobility scooter.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Oh, my God. I love it. I love it. You know what? You know what, fuck you. Bullpups your Eldar support weapon. Yeah, bullpup that thing. Then it'll be American.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I don't know why, but that feels like a merch idea. California compliant mobility. I just have a picture of the Eldar sitting on his turn. I like that. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that's. Oh, of course. She's going to turn that into a poster.
Starting point is 01:15:49 for next month, I'm sure. Bricky, are you well enough to take us home and end the episode? Oh, you bet it, buddy. All right. Let's go. Let's go. Thank you everyone very much for watching this episode. It's been a great time having you in here, Kariath. And I'm very glad that we were able to talk about the Eldar support weapons
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