Adeptus Ridiculous - DARK ANGELS - REPENT! | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

The Dark Angels were the I Legion of the twenty original Space Marine Legions. Their Primarch is Lion El'Jonson. Though they claim complete allegiance and service to the Emperor of Mankind, their actions and secret goals at times seem at odds with that professed loyalty, as the Dark Angels strive above all other things to atone for an ancient crime of betrayal committed over 10,000 standard years ago during the Horus Heresy, when some of their brethren were turned to the side of Chaos. These traitors are known to those few Dark Angels granted knowledge of their existence as the "Fallen Angels" or just "The Fallen." In the eyes of the Chapter's leaders, there is only one way that the Chapter can ever atone for its shame, restoring its honour and trust in the eyes of the Emperor -- all of the Fallen must be found and either made to repent their ancient sin, or slain. Support the show

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DK is wearing them right now. I am. They're amazing. I am also wearing them right now. It's all good. Book Club is very soon. It will be actually filming that in a few days and it'll come out this weekend. So get ready for that. The Arks of Omen Lion book is coming out soon.

Pre-orders went live. of this last Saturday. A, a poor one out for our fallen friend. Ha ha ha ha. Fallen. Pour one out for our boys

who were not able to grab one before the scalpers got a hold of the lion, unfortunately. Always, always crap. I genuinely don't know how to fix that problem. I don't know if there's a way,

but whatever the thing is. Pour one out for that. But since that is not this week, of course, Normally we do a Primark and then we do the Space Marine Legion afterwards. So today should be unsurprising. We're going to do a nice like covering of the Dark Angels. Yeah, that's kind of what I figured we were doing.

I was like, there's probably very little chance that Brigie can get the book and do an episode on the book in a day. So chances are today probably going to be about the angels, the dark angels. Well, the book's not out yet. The pre-orders are out for the book. The book comes out at the end of this week. Oh, I thought it was already out. No, no, no. Say it.

Whatever. Eh, all right. So, dank angels, the dankest of angels. Let's talk about the dark angels a little bit. As we have mentioned before, they are the first legion. They were the first legion created. they are the base template for a lot of stuff that the Space Marines, these starties kind of go with.

And obviously, after their Primark decided to take a big nappy poo, they, I don't know if he made that decision or that decision was made for him, but, yeah. That is true. Also, I forgot how metal the original Dark Angels banner is. Oh, my, that was their banner with the, with the Reaper on it and everything? Yeah, because heresy-era dark angels were black and red.

Oh, my God, they were so much cooler pre-heresy. See, I really badly want to play the bad to the bone sound effect, but I think Shy will be upset with me. Yeah, maybe a little bit. But like that skeleton, though, like it's so calls for it. Oh, that's so rock star. It really is. That's like the cover of a Slayer album. Oh, I love that so much more than the, I mean, like the green hooded thing with the white coat thing that they got now is fine.

And there's nothing wrong with it. Like it looks good, but that's pre-heresy so much better. Pre-heresy is really cool. And all the artwork for pre-heresy is really good. D.K., did I ever tell you the theory that all art work? Oh, no. That all artwork in the 41st millennium is not actually images of the battles. but in fact all taken by Trazen,

and it's all just Trazen's random galleries showing off the battles for history. He's like, all right, here's the lion. Here, he's sleeping right here. In reality, Trazen actually has the lion. I had not heard that theory. It's a pretty dumb theory, but it's a pretty good one.

A game theory. A game theory. Also, does the lion sleep tonight in the jungle? Is he sleeping? Hey, I mean, ooh. You know? If I were, if I were Trazen, I would have that song on repeat whenever you walk by his exhibit. Oh, hell yeah.

You have to. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, um, anyway, uh, born, born to force why. Shy, I have not made that joke. That was on a stream. I'm making that joke in this episode now. You, how dare.

He grew up much like Kurds in the sense that he was alone and had no father figure or parental or anything. The difference was is that. Curse eight children and rats and things to survive in an awful, awful hive world. He was literally in the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight. Wrong! Am I so uncultured that I didn't even realize I'm repeating jokes? Well, you know what?

You know what's not a joke. The lion. The lion. And the fallen. So the dark angels themselves, after the lion went to sleep, kind of started to, recluse reclused Is there like a reclusive?

Yeah, I'm not sure There's like a verb for that or something But it became a lot more insular And far more suspicious post-heresy Shocking development I know I think the Dark Angels actually mirror their prime arc

A bit more post-heresy than prior Because you know Lyon besides being Mr. Captain genocide As you have so eloquently put He is! You can't tell me he's not. He really is.

Is the quiet brooding primark, right? And the dark angels have slowly worked their way into becoming quite similarly. For the most part, though, the dark angels were just extremely relentless at destroying the heretics in the great scouring, which is when post-horst heresy, all the loyalists ones went around and tried to kill all the traitors they could. after Caliban's destruction and them retrofitting a giant chunk of Caliban, which is now the rock. The rock. The senior members of the Dark Angels held this secret conclave. And they determined that their chaos brothers, the fallen, were to be kept undisclosed at all times. No outsider can learn about what happened.

They believe that their secret, if it was known, would have them reviled by the imperial. and hated by everything they held dear. And knowing that they are extremely loyal, still having that and that stain would be just such a massive blow on the dark angels, both in terms of reputation and also, you know, imperial morale. Yeah. Because then they wouldn't be able to do

what they need to do to kill traitors. And that's their favorite thing. But doesn't everybody already know about the fallen? At the time post Horace heresy A little bit, yes Yeah, but not to like a full scale Not to a full scale

And that was right after the Horace Heresy and just some upper echelons Of the Imperium But with time and as time went on and on It was kept a secret And this secret was held by this group called The Inner Circle We're going to be talking about that a lot

The Inner Circle is the main conclave of senior dark angels. And they're all about brotherhood and most importantly, loyalty above all else. And not necessarily honesty, loyalty. Oh. Very important distinction. Honesty and loyalty.

Ah, I see. Okay. So even if it's like, oh, we did some really bad criminal stuff. Like, well, you can't rat on us. You know, snitches get stitches, dude. You got to be loyal. We don't care about honesty. We just care that you're with your brothers, right?

You keep the secret. Keep the secrets of the inner circle down. So eventually, new dark angels that they brought on didn't know anything about the fallen at all. And as time continued, fewer and fewer dark angels actually ended up knowing about what had happened on Calabam. with the exception of just like a couple dreadnots near the end because they were the only people still alive. I mean, to be fair, that's smart.

If you're paranoid about people finding out about the fallen, it is much better to not even tell your recruits about it and just keep that as secret as secret can be, right? And because they were so paranoid and suspicious, they would slowly begin purging any and all knowledge of the fallen. they would get rid of anyone who, I mean, they would either die or be, you know, kept under wraps, under threat, perhaps. And so that inner circle, the inner circle itself are the only people who know about what happened with the fallen. And that is the Supreme Grandmaster, all the other grandmasters, the master of the chapter companies, members of the Death Wing and the Raven Wing Black Knights. However, the only person The Raven Wing Black Knights Yeah, I want to be one of those guys

Do you like bikes? Sure. And then you'll like them. Hell yeah, brother. However, each of those groups were only given a certain number of like secrets. The only person who knows everything is the Supreme Grand Master of the Dark Angels,

which would be Azrayo. Yeah, yeah. Um, everyone else knows bits and pieces and know about the fallen, but they don't know everything. It's kind of be rough to be a new recruit to the dark angels then, right? Because like, I mean, I, rumors are going to be swirling around about the fallen, but a new recruit's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I love the dark angels. They're so great. You guys are crazy. Like, what was the accent you were giving them? I'm not sure. I think it was like a pseudo-Borat thing. I was a little bit, yeah.

I'm not entirely sure why that accent came out. Look, it just happens sometimes, man. Like, it, you know. You got to hit him with the old knightly accent, the old like Knights who say knee kind of accent. No, this is dark angels. They've got a Borat accent now. That's just the way it is.

That's what I've decided. I don't like this anymore. Can we instead, can we replace that, have Lorgar be the Borat accent? No, it's too late. It's like, it's like, defaulant. I don't know, but, you know, very nice. This is a very nice day.

No fallen. I don't like this anymore. That's the dark angels now. Too bad. Okay. So for the inner circle, the idea of the concept was that so long as a single fallen yet lived, there would be no peace for the sons of the lion. The true final duty of the inner circle was to make sure every single fallen was dead. And for the most part, the dark angels and all the subsequent dark angel chapters have

this one simple, like, name, which is known as the unforgiven. They're all kind of referred to as the unforgiven because they cannot be forgiven until all of the fall in dead. Right. So many metal things going, as soon, because as soon as I hear forgiven, I'm just, and I dubbed the unforgiven. And then, like, pre-heresy, they, they've got, like, that super metal, like, flag. Dark angels are, like, they're rock stars. They are, I mean, I kind of feel like Sanguineas would hit the heavy metal. Who would be? Oh, we know, the heavy metal people would be the emperor's children. Yeah. Yeah. Sure, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah.

All right, we'll hit number two. But, but yes, they've got, they've got all the good like edgy skeleton memes that can go along with them. I love it. So being this way at the moment, being how they act right now, the entirety of the Dark Angels is made up in these six points, the hexagramaton. I always forget how to pronounce it. Hexagramicon. Hexagramcracker. Like, I'm assuming that's, oh, shit, what is, what is a hexagon? Is that six?

Oh, yeah, I was right. Hex, hexagramaton or grammatin. Yeah, yeah, that was right. Okay, okay. So what it is, is six separate wings of the Dark Angels. Now, mainly it's two. The other four are kind of like, they're there, but they don't really got a lot about them. So, why are they there? Well, they're still, they're there for their own. reasons. Shut up. We want a cool name that has hex in it. There's got to be six, but only two of them matter.

That's it. I mean, I mean, yeah. I mean, that's what it sounds like to me anyway, as an ignorant outsider, you know. So, like, there's four, right? There's something called the Dreadwing, which is specifically meant to be all about the utter extermination,

dreadbringers, they were known as, like, deployed where there was no other way to destroy an enemy. And they had like old destroyer squads and things like that. There is also the Iron Wing, which is all about vehicles, land raiders, dreadnoughts, the mechanical wing, you know. Oh, Arkin Land. Oh, yeah, he's in Master of Mankind. I actually like land. I like Land a lot. He is still very, he's a crusty old man.

He is extreme crust. Anyway, that's for the book club episode. That is. I actually like land a lot. Yeah. There's the Storm Wing as well, which is like mainline infantry. Core infantry companies, pretty often like space breaches and stuff. And then there's the fire wing, which is the smallest of the six, and is mostly dissolved after the Horace heresy.

they're like a more subtle type of warfare, psychological breaking downs, honorable duels or slit throats, lots of extensive knowledge of the enemy, kind of like the back door basically. The two big ones, though, are the Death Wing and the Raven Wing. Let's go.

Such metal names, like, come on. So the Death Wing is a classic case of the first company, which would be Terminators. Now, obviously, as you saw, pre-heresy power armor was jet black with red, but after the heresy, it was green, or supposed to be a green so dark it is supposed to look like black, but it's not quite. Oh, no, what is that? Is that the termies? Well, that's like a really old-school-looking termi. There are far better photos of them. I hate the color scheme. So that is part of it. We'll get to that.

But the Death Wing are the elite first company. And the whole point is that there was a world way back when called Plains World. And because Caliban, if you weren't quite aware, can't really get recruits from there anymore. Yeah. Well, yeah, because it's, you know. Yeah, yeah. In pieces. Yeah.

Using a giant piece of it as their base. So, of course, you can't get recruits from it anymore. Yeah, that makes sense. So they needed to go to a different world to get their recruits. And the main one, they were doing what's this place called Plainsworld. And eventually they came back to it for more recruits. And it was covered in gene stealers. Oh, no.

Just like all gene stealers. And there are barely any humans left. Oh, great. So that's going to be a problem to get a tith from. Yeah. And so a task of squadron of Terminators was sent down. basically an impossible task to fix this world. And so in the old Calibanite tradition,

they donned their armor a bone white. The idea for that is that they were going to, it was the color of death, believing that they would not survive this incursion. But they... White being a color of death, huh? Yeah, white, like the bone death color. and it just so happened that they actually were able to somehow fucking pull it off.

I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's pretty based if you somehow completely clear out a gene stealer infection. That's, that's pretty, that's pretty boss. I still hate the color scheme, though. I, I, I, the white in that first photo isn't as good. I think the ones that she posted afterwards are a bit better. I just think the idea is the bold white. and afterwards are just like, it's just better art so you don't notice the color scheme

as much. I mean, all right, well, regardless, whatever, yeah, that's the point of, that's the point of the bone white. And since they actually succeed in saving the damn world, the rest of the death wing continue this tradition

to paint their armor, a bone white color. Okay, that's fair. In, in memoriam of this absolutely just, What should have been an impossible feat? Yeah, the extreme stubbornness and resilience.

The Death Wing often refused to leave the battlefield even against overwhelming odds. And they cite the recruitment story. They cite this whole story as like, it worked for them. So it'll work. Well, yeah, we have to live up to our ancestors. We can't sully the name of the Death Wing by retreating. Just because we're outnumbered? The inner circle specifically, if you are like an infantry, particularly the death wing, there's even a rule in game where if you attempt to fall back, you have to roll a dice.

And if you don't do it, you can't fall back because they're so stubborn. And if you're in engagement range with any enemy fallen, you just aren't allowed to. It's like, sorry, dude. Yeah. Oh, you can play as the fallen in game? Not really. There's like one squad. It barely counts as anything.

I was going to say that's kind of cool if you could actually play as the fallen and there's like this big faction of them and you have special rules when you fight the dark angels because of course you do. I don't think that would be really cool but yeah. But the Death Wing company

because they are this such a higher up echelong, the Death Wing are part of the Inner Circle. Those of the elite Death Wing know of the Fallen. And so much like normal Terminator they kind of teleport in and just start ripping everything up with bolters and blades.

Sure. But they have a really cool unit called the Death Wing Knight, which is an elite member of the first company, often bodyguards for the higher ranking members of the inner circle. And often if you don't die by their hand, they will instead drag you away into the dungeons of the rock awaiting interrogation and excruciation. Oh, boy, that sucks. That sucks. Is the knight the guy in the bottom left?

Is that a knight? There's a couple looking guys. They kind of look a little bit like that, but they ones on the tabletop are a little different. They tend to carry things like shields and maces and flails. There's even a little watcher in the dark. You get to keep around with them. Oh, they're cool.

Yeah, Deathwing Knights. Oh, man. I love that, actually. Oh, no. Epic embed failure. Laugh at this user. I fucked up. Yeah, you did.

Yeah, you did. Those are so dope, though. I love those. Oh, man, there's... It'd be so much better if, like, the, uh, the green was like, uh, maybe, like, black and then the armor was, like, red or something, like, their old colors. I just, I just love that pre-heresy color scheme so much more because I'm an edgy, edgy boy.

I mean, some people paint them that way. You can see this one here. Ooh. Oh, that is. I like that a lot. It's pretty neat. But yeah, the Death Wing Knights are like the elite of the Terminator. So they've got these big flails.

They have those giant maces and are often helped by watchers in the dark that are often used to resist psychic powers. Various other stuff. And the grandmaster of them is a guy named Belial. Obviously, we're very much in the religious naming or the biblical naming sequences. Um, um, I, Blyle, the dark angels have so many characters. I, I'm not going to get into them too deep, but Blyle is, is kind of a G. How popular are the dark knights in the grand scheme of like 40Kare? They have very, very popular, uh, faction or chapter or whatever.

The dark angels? Yeah. You said dark nights. Oh, sorry. We were talking about knights and, and brain just, br, So the Dark Angels are, I'd say pretty popular. Okay. I'd say they're pretty popular.

Yeah, it's the fact that like the Dark Angel, I mean the First Legion, lion's pretty cool. But also it's because they have such like a unique prospect with how you can play them. You can play them like regular space marines, but then you have these fancy different Terminators. And then when we get to the Raven Wing, you'll have the fancy dudes there. So I'd say they're pretty darn popular. Yeah. Well, it was just like they have so many characters and they have so much lore that it's like they seem kind of like they must be a pretty popular faction if they're getting so much stuff on them, right?

I mean, when the Dark Angels became really good on the tabletop, they did start coming out of the woodworks. But when the Gene Steeler Colts became really good in the tabletop, they didn't quite come out of the, well, in that case, coming out of the tunnels. but, so yeah, I would say they're definitely more popular than certain space marine factions and other groups. Okay. The second company we have is the Raven Wing. And the Raven Wing are fast assault units, mainly using land speeders, bikes, and flyers. And you'll like these guys a lot because they still wear the jet black pre-heresy colors. Oh, hell, yeah. I'm assuming that's part of them.

the Raven Wing because they're jet black like a like a Raven. Yeah, pretty much. As you can see, there's a Raven right there. Oh, hell. Yeah, dude. This is, this is, this is, this is, this is the one. Is this the one? This is the one.

The, the raven, the way. The Raven wing are really needo. They are all about speed, bikes, flyers, all that kind of stuff. There's a, Yeah, the raven guard. The raven guard would be like, excuse you. They also have a highly elite unit called the Raven Wing Black Knights that I mentioned before. These guys are-

Oh my God, those are so cool. They've got big old, like literal ravens in the back, and their main dude is a guy named Samuel, which is on this big old jet bike. It's so edgy looking. I love that. I am an edgy boy, or I like the edgy aesthetic. I am the least edgy person you will ever meet. But, God, I love that.

I love the bikes with the actual angel wings on them, and they're all black, and I love it. This is it. This is my faction. This is the one. The Raven Wing? The Raven Wing. The poor Corvus and the Raven Guard. totally getting...

Well, I don't know anything about them. I know. All I know is there's that one guy that has the really cool jet pack. I don't remember what his name. It's not Corp's War. Craven Shrike. You've told me his name

like 60 million times. Yes, I have. Every time. Every time. It's crazy. But I love his jet pack. So maybe once we do an episode on them, things will change.

But right now, mm-hmm. He is, it is very cool. So the second group their truest purpose overall is to hunt down members of the fallen. And only the inner circle knows this. Like their speed, ferocity, the point is to hunt down the fallen. Okay.

Often the Ravenwing attack squadron rule arrive, beat the shutout stuff, and then leave quickly. Equipped with teleportation homers as well, that can help continue the attack so far. Is, I was going to ask this a little while ago, but I kind of forgot. Is there a specific way that they track the fallen? Or is this just sort of like, they just investigate and they hear rumors and they're like, oh, the fallen, there might be a little thing of fallen over here. So we're going to go check that. Or like, because they're like of the same gene seat, can they sort of like feel when there's a fallen around? So real quick, before we jump into that, I'd like to read what Shai mentioned here.

Yeah, go for. which is that we didn't really fully discuss the fallen's perspective from the side. So basically the idea is that Dark Angels sent to Caliban with Luther, right, felt that they were abandoned by the lion and the emperor and robbed of all the glory of the Great Crusade. And because of this, rebellion spread across Caliban led by the former nobles who originally opposed the Imperium's takeover of the planet. and the complete industrialization of it and erasure of not only their culture, but, you know, all of their trees. And then Luther discovers that the monsters on Caliban

originated from a chaos corruption and figures out like, hey, as soon as the Imperium figures out that that's the case, they're going to destroy the planet because this is a chaos corrupted beast. True. And so he believed that, that the lion had knowingly thrown them onto the planet

with the knowledge of the beast being chaos corrupted as a final death sentence. Oh, all right. I mean. And then so they secede. Because it's like, oh, you're not just going to get rid of us. You're planning on killing us. I, wow, all right.

I mean, it's still, that still sounds like a flawed mindset of why you should like be like, and let's just see from the Imperium. Because, you know, like, even if the emperor finds... That's a, that is a big stretch. Because, like, even if the emperor finds out, like, oh, that's a chaos corrupted planet, like, I don't think he's going to just obliterate

all of the dark angels that are there. Like, y'all will probably get evacuated, but, I mean, your planet still ends up as the rock, so who cares? I think it's a little bit of a stretch, but it does kind of be useful to understand the mindset. Yeah. I mean, Luther's already kind of...

Not having a good time? Yeah, and he's probably not... He's not super keen on the lion anyway, so he's probably looking for any reason. So I guess it makes sense that his reasoning is a little warped and a little stretched because he succumbs to chaos, for God's sakes, you know? Warped. It was a warped.

Well, yeah, it's... It's a fine enough reason to push him over the edge as he was teetering. Yeah, yeah. He just needed a little push. But it does make a good sense for the fault. Because a lot of the times the chaos space marines believe themselves to be the ones who were betrayed. Nightlords were condemned for doing the thing the emperor told them to do. Lorgar had his Jerusalem burnt to the ground.

Perciarabo was given all the shit jobs. where Tarian never was enacted justice for his dad. Yep. Good God, Angron. Oh, poor Angron. Oh, man. So because of that, you know, the fallen, especially now, might have one of the better reasons why they feel betrayed comparatively. I guess.

Just overall, from the concept. Yeah, I guess, sure. It's a fine reason to be pushed over the edge after being given. such a shit job. Madness, as you know, is light gravity. Just need a little push. Batman. It's a Batman quote.

It's a dark night quote. Yeah, it's a Joker quote. It's a Black Knight quote. Hey. So, the Raven Wing Black Knights themselves are heavily armed shock cavalry. They are equipped with those plasma talons on the front of their bikes. And they often are given these big things called Corvus Hammers. They're almost like big old hammer picks

That they were used to fight the old beasts back on Calabam And they roll up and they just you know Beat the shit out of you But since they're the Black Knights They are part of the inner circle So they know the true purpose of the hunt you know I was gonna say shy said once again Ravengard Seath Because it's a what do you say is a corvus hammer

Oh my god you're right It is a corvus hammer Oh my God The Ravenguard are none too happy about all this. You stole everything from us. You stole busy lifting drinks. You know, I will say that Ravengard do have, I think it's a stratagem in the game called Laylow the Tyrants,

which I will always think is the coolest things. I'm not mistaken, Corvus really doesn't like oppression. Okay. Because I don't like oppression either. Yeah, but I think his world was like. like particularly bad. Oh, it's one of those. Oh.

Anyway, it's copseed mulled. So other cool things in the Raven Wing. There are a couple of really fun vehicles. There's something called the Nephilim Jet Fighter, which is fun. But there's also this fancy thing called the Dark Talon Fighter, which is actually the thing that Vashdor needed and the Alpha Legion grabbed in the prior Farsite arcs of moment. Okay.

The dark town fighter has a weapon called the Rift Cannon, also known as the stained glass cannon. And what it is is a old dark age of technology weapon that emits a warp energy beam, opening a taincy rift into the warp at its point of contact. And then all the problems that occur with that. So it's basically just a warp ray gun. A big warp ray cannon.

That wherever it fires, it opens up a teeny little opening into the warp. And then whatever the hell happens from that happens. Wow. That seems like a roll of the dice type of thing, because you're fiddling with the warp. And it is a dice game. That's, I mean, that's fair. Also, damn, that jet looks cool. Oh, dude, the dark towels are so sick.

I think I saw one of those on the minis that you posted earlier. God, those look cool. Yeah, that was the thing. There was a downed dark talent, I believe. And yeah, the mini itself actually looks great. Oh, my God, that slaps so hard. I love the, like the monastery architecture that's on the wings and the sides. I love all of it.

There's nothing about this dark talent fighter that I dislike. There's also a weirdo speeder, a speeder, speeder. speeder that they have called a raven wing dark shroud. It's a land speter with this dark age calabinite relic, which creates this field of impenetrable darkness known as the shroud of angels. Oh my God. Listen, man. The edgy boy inside of me can only take so much, all right?

Like you can only, oh my God. Oh, that's so rad. It's so over the top. Oh, my God. That's so rad. It's a little, it's a little dumb, as you can tell, the Marines are definitely old sculpt Marines, you know? Yeah. But basically that thing emits this field of impenetrable darkness where bullets and lasers and cannons will enter it and just never reappear.

They'll just go away. This, listen, I have a new faction that I have. associate with. I know I've gone from like thousand sons to blood angels to whatever, but this is it. This is my final resting spot. It's over. It's over. Look at that

thing. Look at the way it spits out like atheric, aldrich darkness. It's like darkness wings. I don't know what that is. Oh, it's wings. Literally wings of darkness. It looks like wings of darkness. This is it. This is it. Apparently I'm a dark angels fan now

because this is it. Well, not dark, just this one. The Raven Wing. Oh my God. I mean, I know you don't give a shit about the tabletop, but they are really good right now, too. So they move so fast. I am right in there with the meta. Let's go.

Let's go. Yeah, they are mega edgy bikes and flyers and all kinds of great stuff. I love it. I've arrived. He has come. I like the good lord I have risen. After out of the hexagrammaton, past that. Let's talk about the rest.

So the Dark Angels librarians are pretty fun. They have a specific kind of discipline called the interromancy discipline, which is, there's a lot of interesting ones they have. I like one of the best ones there is called righteous repugnance, which is. allowing them to stoke the hatred of his brothers to make them fight harder, things like that. But there are two that are particularly crazy. One is called Mind Worm. Oh, no. Which allows the librarian to violently burrow into the enemy's consciousness,

into the screaming victim's brain, ripping free their secrets in a spray of gore. Oh, boy. So they enter the brain, get the secrets, and then Yeah, they basically, like, I know you took a cookie from the cookie jar, and then you just explode out of your eyes. Oh, no. All right, that's very 40K. Kind of love it, though.

And if anybody should have that, it's probably the dark game. Probably, yeah. And the other one that I've always thought was insane was called Mind Wipe, where basically the librarian will scourge the mind, of the enemy, dragging out every memory and skill that makes them who they are and leave them reduce to this, this hollow shell. Oh, boy. Like, you're generally pulling out their personality.

That's messed up. That's, that's, that's, that's, pardon my French, but that's fucked. Wow. Do they get their abilities to, or are they just, are they just wiping the slate clean? It's not like they're like, oh, you're an expert swordsman, mine, and they just like, or is it just a clean slate wipe? I believe it's, I believe it's basically like servitorizing them. Like you just remove, I mean, they're not like lobotomized, but you just remove the, imagine you're fighting an enemy space marine and then you just pluck their ability to swing a sword. Oh.

They just don't know how anymore. That's, I mean, that's, that's a useful talent, especially when you're like fighting chaos or something. Like that's a, oh boy. It's pretty nasty. How do the librarians look, by the way? I don't think, or they just kind of look the same, just kind of that same green and white cloak deal? I mean, pretty much.

They do have a guy, I think it's Zechial? They really do be leaning into those religious names, don't they? Oh, no, his mini is so bad. You got to show it to me. You can't say it's a bad mini and then not, let me see it. Uh, yeah. It's not the worst, but it's not good. It's, boy, that's pretty awful.

Like, those default colors are bad. And then just, it's, it's the robe. The fact that so much of them is covered by just awful robe is, yeah. Oh, you're not going to like the dark angels if you think that those, that the, um, kind of tan robes are the thing you don't enjoy. Well, it's just there's so much tan robe. And it's not particularly well, molded is the problem.

That's fair. Ooh, shy is an edgy thing. Oh, okay. Here's something to make you feel better with edginess. Chief Librarian of the Dark Angels carries with them the Book of Salvation, which contains the names of those fallen that have been tracked and put up against the wall using their own blood as ink. Let's go.

I mean, that is pretty edgy. But in terms of 40K, that's not that bad, actually. I mean, 40K, you got people literally. as the wall. They put children in the walls. Yeah, so in terms of 40K, that's actually not the worst thing to happen to a POW. It's pretty edgy.

Well, it's not about what happened to them. It's the fact that he's got a book made of, like, written in blood. Again, for 40K. Yeah, it's really not that bad, actually. You know, it's still edgy, though. Yeah. So,

so let's say you want to be a dark, well, you don't want to be a dark angel. I want to be a Ravenwing. Yeah, well, yeah, but let's say you're going to become a dark angel. Right now recruits for the dark angels kind of arrive from everywhere. Often feudal worlds kind of like Caliban if they can because they have no homeworld. But the idea is really just the wiping of the prior existence. Like, quote, forget your past life.

From this day on, you are simply a dark angel. Nothing else is of consequence. The chapter is all that matters. That's what Israel says to new recruits. And if you fail the training to become a dark angel, you will be mind-wiped and servitorized. I was about to ask if they mind-wipe the new recruits to make it more like, hey, guess what?

You fond of that planet you came from? No, you're not. Mind-wipe, you know, but, oh, man. Too bad. Become a dark angel or become nobody. Yeah. Geez, that's a, that's steep. That's a steep cost of failure in the training.

Good God. So there's a whole lot of really fun relics and things, the Dark Angels. And honestly, the Dark Angels probably have, Shy would you say the dark angels have the most lore out of any of the Loyalist factions? Maybe besides Ultramarines. Sure seems that way with how many characters they have and everything. Like, damn. There's a lot.

And they have so many, like, sub- factions too with like the the death wing and the raven wing and the other four whatever's. They seem like they are very well represented. I would agree. Besides the Ultramarines, they probably are number one. And they have all these crazy kinds of relics. They have like the pennant of remembrance, the mace of redemption. One of my favorites is the cup of retribution, which is literally a cup that it was said the emperor drank at when the feast

the line when they first met. But to really encapsulate the dark angels, if I had to pick the one thing that was like, this is the most dark angels thing out there. Let's talk about the interrogator chaplains. Oh boy. Let's go. All right. Let's do it.

So there are things in 40K known as chaplains, which is a hilariously, a hilariously backwards thing because the idea of a chaplain, is kind of a thing that Lorgar almost founded and now it's a common practice in the loyalists so it's like ha ha well Lorgar was right you know everyone it became a religious emperor worshipping Imperium

of course you gotta have chaplains right Oh Lorgar Oh Lorgar You son of a bitch But so the Lorgar Not Lorgar The chaplains in space marines

in space marines in general are kind of meant for this inspiring focus. They come and they recite litanys and incantations and they, they fill their brothers with this kind of gusto and then they fight hard and they are the keepers of lore and they're a chaplain. They're a space marine chaplain, you know? Yeah. Okay. However, the Dark Angels have things called interrogator chaplains. And to quote, to quote the most, successful living at Chaplain. Damnation is eternal. All souls cry out for salvation, and there is no salvation without suffering. Attributed to interrogator chaplain Asmodai.

Oh, no. Asmodai is a kind of a popular one. He's... Is that him? Let's see. The bottom one is Asmodai. He's also a bit old.

Who's the top one? Just the Interregor chaplain in general. Oh, with the skull mask and everything? That's cool. So chaplains always have a skull mask. Their big thing, I think, is a bit more of like the robes and stuff, the hood. Yeah. But the difference between Interregor chaplains or regular chaplains,

the Interregor chaplains are entirely there to, can you guess? torture, maim Make your day very awful. Interrogate, yeah. Interrogate via torture And I'm assuming nothing fun and nice For the interrogatee So they also have the special

Duty, I suppose To remove the gene seed From any dead chaos space marines they find Just in case one of the fallen Have thrown their lot in with the group, without really realizing it. And unlike the inspiring role of chaplains, they're actually quite grim and quiet

and always looking around for a sense of weakness. You know, like when you're driving on the highway and you see a cop, you just like instinctively slow down a little bit, just in case. And you instinctively don't want to pass them because you're just kind of like, if I pass them and yeah, you get very paranoid, sure.

And so imagine that, but for the dark angels. Like the interrogator chaplains are always suspicious of everything and everyone in their surroundings. Oh, okay. So very, very dark angels, but they're very suspicious. They're always on the lookout for someone that maybe is about to trip and fall. Gotcha. So they're like the police of the group. Brother, help me up.

I've fallen. Brother? Brother. I love that meme now. Would you like to read this quote? Sure. Shai posted the quote. It says,

Asmodai ordered the slaughter of all the new recruits from Narcum because of their lackluster answers to his question. Upon hearing laughter in the halls of the rock, Azmadi placed the penance of silence until the entire seventh company, onto the entire seventh company? I'm assuming onto the entire seventh company. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn.

Didn't like these. answers. I got kill them all. All of them. Kill them all. They're not worth it. Get rid of them. Jesus. There is a... Wow, that's a little extreme. I mean, I guess that's the Dark Angels. They do tend to lean towards the extreme. So one of the important things, I guess, when it comes to the interrogator chaplains, is

and how they interrogate with the fallen. Because the fallen is always the meme, right? It's always like, oh, the Dark Angels are actually heretics. And they, Dark Angels, let me tell you, they love that joke. It's their favorite joke. They love it when you repeat it all the time every single day. They think it's so funny. They think it's hilarious.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure they just love hearing that meme ad nauseum. Absolutely. I mean, to be fair, after hearing all this, like, I would not be suspicious of the archangels of actually like ever doing anything heretical or against the Imperium. Like they want to be as by the books as possible so that no one ever associates to them with the fallen again, right? That's the point. But the thing is mainly that them and the Inquisition do not get along.

Okay. There are quite a few situations in times where I believe the Inquisition has either been outright killed by the uh because of their suspicions or or certainly had something uh you know how commissars go missing in catachin

yeah a little bit of that okay and the inquis like here here's a wonderful photo of an interrogator chaplain interrogating a member of the fallen do you see if do you see if he has any eyes because I don't see any eyes

I don't I don't see any eyes I just oh bull Holy Jesus. So to determine, to determine really this understanding and like the dark angels are obviously extremely loyal and they're so angry about people who deem them as unloyal and they're so shameful of their past that they do things that are so out of their paranoia and suspicion that are so like teetering on heretical like possibly murdering an inquisitor that is trying to. to look at them because they deem it to be for the best because the Imperium knowing about their their failings at the time is just a terrible, terrible thing. And they would gladly keep that a secret. They are loyal. Absolutely. They just do some pretty screwy things sometimes. Yeah. They're just, they're very extreme in trying to be like, no, we're loyal. There is no

question. Stop it. You're questioning it. Let me put screws in your head and remove your eyeballs. They're just, they, they are tryhards to the extreme. But I think it's important to realize why.

Mm-hmm. Because, like, the fallen, because here's the thing about the fallen. The fallen are, were grabbed by the warp when Caliban cracked and broke and were thrown

into the warp and scattered much like the primarcs in the, in the beginning. And because of the way the warp is, time is also screwy. Oh, yeah, it is. So they could have been, the Fallen could have been launched to any time period ever. Like, they've found Fallen sometimes just operating, becoming true, like Heretic Astardis,

really embracing the dark gods and joining the Black Legion. You've had some that have even ascended into demonhood. as a demon prince. Others have become leaders of pirate gangs or occultist cause. Some have been attempting to live a simple nomadic existence at the end, fringe of the Imperium. Some have risen to become tyrants of planets, sometimes are empires with multiple worlds under their name.

Some have genuinely lived and attempted to become like an abhuman in just a regular world. in trying to live what they would call a normal life. Yeah. Out of the, out of the view of the dark angels, I would assume. And it's so difficult because how do you know, like,

who's been sent where? Like, how, like, who knows, who's to say that one of the dark angels wasn't sent in time, adjusted something, got confused, who knows, and is currently a genuinely outstanding member of the Death Watch,

currently bringing justice to the various like Zeno's hordes. I mean, that's true. They could have been launched into the past and then adjusted and yeah, that's true. Who know? Maybe they are actually part of the imperial fists and they're hiding their identity.

And so because of this mindset over 10,000 years of endless suspicion and paranoia, like the Dark Angels don't very often don't look at other space marine chapters as, you know, they're all a possible threat. Their paranoia of the fallen run so deep that they can't even trust like their brothers. They're like other space marine chapters or people in the Imperium.

Gilliman sent them primarus Marines to reinforce their ranks. And they fucking tortured them because they thought they were spies. Wow. They were they were spies of. Gilliman to learn the secrets of the dark angels. Holy geez. So there's no real way for them to tell who is or where a fallen is. They're just paranoid of everyone and think that potentially everything could possibly be a fallen or someone that's out to get them.

Well, they can tell. They can get the gene seed, for example, and find out that way. Well, sure, but you just have to rip them open and find out. Or psychic powers, or most specifically, the number one goal of the Interiator chaplains is to make them repent. And that's the meme you'll hear a lot. Make them repent. Repent. Because the goal is to find a fall in and force them to repent for their sins.

Okay. If you do repent for your sins, then they will kill you immediately. As is justice for what you've done. And it will be quick and swift. Yeah, there's no coming back from being a fallen, you will die. Yes. In fact, Asma die has a lovely little relic. Let me see if I can find this thing.

There it is. The Blades of Reason, it is a multi-stage blade inscribed with oaths of duty that is known as one of the best, one of the best torture devices. developed by the archangels and it has a special... Yep, which will kill them. The mercy switch will bring the oblivion to the repentant. I repent, I am sorry, good. Click, brach. Death.

Well, all right. That's, I guess that's a good switch to have on your blades of reason. Sure. Sure. And find the fallen, make them repent, and then kill them. And if they don't repent, long, long excruciation. Oh, but you might as well just repent, like, because, I mean, I don't think it's worth all the suffering you're about to go through, right? Shai says, quote, though capable of causing extraordinary amounts of pain, the nerve-searing effects of blades of reason are not fatal and so can be used on a victim virtually indefinitely.

Oh, my God. That sucks for whoever's getting beat up with that. Oh, man, that is, ouch. So that's kind of the thing. And the interrogator chaplains also, they have like a Rosarius. And they add a single black pearl to their Rosarius for every fall and they've convinced to repent.

Now, granted, it's actually not as common as you think. Master Molokai was one of the best chaplains and died after 300 years of service with only 10 pearls. Well, I guess it should be rare because those are fallen kills, basically. And that's kind of the whole point is it's hard to find the fallen, and you're always paranoid of the fallen. So it's not like someone should have a rosary with like 800 beads or something, right? 10 should be a hefty feat. Yeah, especially just finding the fall as hard. 300 years he found 10.

It's like, okay. There was a slight excerpt in the Vastor book about the Dark Angels capturing and talking to that black legionary. And every time they would arrive, it would be like ear blaring noise and like various blinding white lights played at intervals that were never the same food to arrive and stuff that was never at the same. Oh, no, they didn't give them any food. They was letting him starve at various time frames, like just all. kinds of manner of torture. You're not a Star Trek fan, are you? I was about to, you know, how many lights do you see?

Oh, no, I don't get that one enough. That's okay. The Captain Picard was getting tortured. The Romulan wanted him, or the Cardassian wanted him to say, oh yeah, there are four lights, but they're only three, because that means he broke him and blah, blah, blah, don't worry about it. Shy gets it. I thought you said the Kardashians, and I'm like, damn, Kim really going crazy.

Cardassians. I know. Yeah, Shai gets it. Shai gets it. It's fine. But, you know, that's kind of the rub with Dark Angels, is that the fallen have really, it's tough. Because I know a lot of Dark Angels fans love the Dark Angels for their strong knightly appearance, their oaths of duty and just how competent and powerful they are. And the tragedy of them is how far they've fallen, ha ha,

due to their excessive paranoia and suspicion. It's really brought them down as a chapter. Yeah. And it's also, unfortunately, kind of the only thing people think of when they think of the Dark Angels is that meme. And it's like, no, there's so much more. So the, the rest. memes for a reason. So the rest of the Imperium must be just, they must

walk on eggshells when they're around a dark angel or when they're around the Dark Angels because you just, you never know when one's going to snap. No, they don't know that at all. They don't know anything. Well, the rest of the Imperium? No, the Dark Angels are the greatest starties of mankind,

saviors of humanity. Oh, well, I was just thinking it would be like, never, they don't know. I would just think other Space Marine chapters would just be like walking on eggshells around him because it's like, oh, if you say the wrong thing to a dark angel and they start to be suspicious of you, like they're going to snap and they're going to do some

messed up stuff to you. And they're just, they're paranoid freaks, you know? I mean, the other space marines might see dark angels as quiet and reclusive and maybe quick to anger, for example, sure. But they don't know what happened. No one knows what happened besides them. That's true. It's just the inner circle that kind of, well, that's true, I guess, yeah.

They just see them as their weird cousin, as the kid in the back, you know? Yeah, yeah. They don't, yeah, that's true. I gotta be honest, I'm kind of loving the dark angels. Like, I kind of love that, like, they're weirdly loyal, but they're like too loyal and they're too paranoid and they're just like eye twitching in the corner, hoping that nobody brings up the fallen or something. Like, I kind of dig the dark angels.

They're the, they're the creepy kid in the back of the class that never says anything, but get straight A's. Yeah. It's just like, you don't really want to engage with him, but he certainly does his work fine. The teacher will never call on him, ever,

but he'll still get all the rancers, right? Yeah, I mean, in a sense, yeah, the Inquisition tries to, once they find out about the Dark Angel stuff, they sometimes tend to investigate it by talking to the Dark Angels. That's always a bad move. Oh, yeah, if you find out the suspect stuff

of the Dark Angel, Like, hey, guys, found out this stuff about you. Can we talk about it? Yes, let's talk in my private chambers. Suss. Okay. Oh, sure. You son of a bitch.

I had to, I'm sorry. You son of a bitch. But yes, that's, besides that, they're just considered their, I don't know. They're just considered the creepy ones, the insular one, so to speak. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Shai says that she likes Dark Angels visually, but the whole endless paranoia thing is not that

interesting to her. She thinks Black Templars are a more functional version of the two angrily loyal assholes with night aesthetic. Sorry, Dork Angels. Dorks. Dorks. Listen, I've found my home

with the Raven Wing, though. That's just it. It's over. I found it. That's the one I I am home. I am home. I like the endless paranoia thing. I do too.

I think that's kind of cool. I think it's fun because it's, the loyalists don't necessarily have any sneaky legions, like the Alpha Legion that can just do creepy weird stuff. And the Alpha Legion just love all their destabilization and all that. But the Dark Angels have such a, I don't know, I like the idea of never actually doing really

anything wrong, but at the same time being terrified of anyone thinking you're doing something wrong. I don't know. I like that vibe. Granted, the Black Templars do have a really good night aesthetic, though. I just think, like, this is heresy, but I just think Black Templars are watered down sisters of battle. So get fucked Black Templar fans. I'm not going to make any friends with that, but I think the sisters do their vibe way

better. Yeah. But I'm also biased. I like the balancing act that the Dark Angels have to do between. being paranoid and and, you know, trying to still be good space marines and it's just, I don't know, I like it. I like the Dark Angels. It's been an enlightening episode for me.

I like it. It's also a really good fall from grace. Oh, yeah. As far as kids, I think a lot of the other loyal space marines don't have as good of a degradation over the years. Because the chaos ones absolutely have, you know, some of them are. are full chaos born. The word bears have gone entirely into this zealous, occultish crap.

The Iron Warriors are these awful hybrids and good Lord the Emperor's children. A lot of the loyalist space marines have degraded, but like not a lot just in some traditions and stuff. But the Dark Angels is like are massively different pre and post heresy. and I like that degradation. I like that fall. It's more visual. It's more there.

Anyway, is it unacceptable to end the episode with the Among Us sound effect? It is completely unacceptable, especially after we've had such a good episode, and I'm so into the Dark Angels now, and I'm so into the race with, like, Motherf!