Adeptus Ridiculous - DAY OF ASCENSION | Warhammer 40k Book Club

Episode Date: October 22, 2022

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here we are hooray wow what a what an intro I wanted I felt like it should be short and concise

just like the book top notch top notch yes the book Day of Ascension yes Day of Ascension, the story of the Gene Steeler Cults uprising against the ad mech, and not a space marine in sight.

No space marines. Nope, just those wacky mutated humans and those crazy, robotic, red-robed weirdos. It was very nice to have a beautifully five-and-a-half-hour-long read. it was very short but it was yeah but very well very well done written by something

offsky um I remember the of the name I forgot it was Adrian the Tcha oh dear Jakovsky

sure yeah we'll go with that yeah it is well well DK to do share what are your thoughts

on the day of ascension. I mean, I wasn't blown away by it. Like, it didn't have me, like, hooked and all that, but it was, it was fine. I enjoyed it. You know, there were some nice little twists and turns, but, you know, it was, it was fine. It was fine. I wouldn't say it was, like, my favorite book ever.

It's, it's all right. Interesting. We are going to disagree on this one. Oh, okay. I loved it loved it I loved it I thought it was

fan fucking tastic it was sweet and concise and didn't overstay it's welcome and it hit all the right story beats

and you know you know you ever wanted to just read a Holocaust book because that's basically what this was in the beginning Yeah, it was It was rough start

Rough start for the people living on Moron Yeah, I always thought they said moron And I was like, huh, but no Mordor The Mordor One does not simply get tyrannids to eat you at Mordor One does not simply barrel roll

No, I really liked it I will admit they do go very hard with the Nazis rooting out the Jews kind of thing in the beginning of the book. Yeah, they really... I mean, if you're an Admec fan, they are not painted in the nicest light here. It's not good.

It's very not good. No, they are quite fucking evil. Oh, yeah. And in a pretty normal admec way, you know, we always talk about admec just being awful, awful. people who don't care about human life and well that was about it yeah oh yeah I mean

what is it Triskellian is constantly being mocked for being in the soft sciences and trying to figure out how to make their flesh better which is like oh my god for an admec that has got to be like how could you even propose that you know you should strengthen the flesh like it's crazy I I thoroughly enjoy the

like mirror that you get between the main girl starts the D Davian Davian thank you Davian and Triskelian basically mirroring each other when it comes to the overall plot therein

like Davian is the lower one who really wants to rise up because things are going bad but her elder is like no wait wait and then you get Truskelien who really wants sciences to be utilized or important and you get I bet with the ad nickname Um, sort of the B.

Oh, Bursalom. Burzolum. Berzum just being like, oh, I don't want that. I'm a big fat fucker. I'm, I'm extremely overweight

and ad neck. They said he was shaped like a bell. Yep. And he could, and he had no waist so he couldn't bend over. So he just lean, like a giant leaning bell.

Yeah, because, what was it? Cherskeleon grabbed his coat. And he just, and that's why he didn't get assassinated. in the beginning because can't look yeah

pretty great opening he grabs he grabs him yanks him down and then the the assassin the keller morph uh named uh i'm i was actually really bad with these names i feel so bad securey

secure an absolute baller of a character oh hell yeah um securey just straight up like misses the shot and blows off her skellion's arm um because of that and that's where our events really go into motion And it's, the book takes place over really just like a couple days. Wow.

Okay, what do you think of Triskelian as a character? I was so conflicted with Triskelian because like he is a scummy admec. But at the same time, like, nobody really respects him, even though he's trying to like, you know, rise them up. and, you know, he's kind of sort of trying to do the right thing. But then again, he's also a giant piece of shit. I really liked him, if I'm being honest. In like the same way you really, you like the character of Ray Fines and, like, Schindler's List, where he's awful, but he's just played by Ray Fines

and he's just a really good actor. Yeah. Yeah, God, I was like, man, I can't believe I'm feeling sorry for this guy, because all he wants to do is like do genuine Nazi experiments and like break fleshy things to see how far they can be broken and like dissect them all

and he's just it's like when I almost called him bulbous it's a good name for me he's a bulbosaur yeah um when when his the fabricator general didn't send any of his research to Mars

I was like fuck man I feel really bad for you now none of my research made it to Mars. What? Yeah. And he had the great assistant who was always like, yes, indubitably, sir. You just would agree with him every time he said anything. Yes, man. It was a loisier or something. Yeah, and her giant Castellan robot.

Mm-hmm. Damn. Yeah, it sucked feeling for Triskelling, because he's just so, it's not a, he shouldn't be a sympathetic character, but it's like, oh, I was supposed to be Fabricator General. I kind of got screwed out of that. and now everybody thinks I'm a joke and now I'm a master of the parade or the festival and it's like

he's such a scumbag though Oh god, yeah I want to use that if I ever make an ad me What was his name like Chief Festivier or something like that? Yeah, Chief Festivator Yeah, I want to just make a fucking tech freeze and just put a party hat on him And make him

Chief Festivator Chief Festivator Chief Festivator Well done. God, it was so funny. But yeah, but with the except, like, you do get a lot of, of World War II Holocaust-level stuff here. Oh, sure, yeah. That is the basis for the book, no doubt.

But, you know, I'm glad they didn't shy away from the obvious tyrannid problem. Yeah. I was wondering if throughout the. entire book, they might just pretend like the Tyrannid thing doesn't exist. They rise up, they win, and then a book ends with, and then the skies got dark. And I thought the book would just end like that, but no, it actually has a happy ending, I guess you could say. I mean, for all intents and purposes, it's about as happy an ending as Davian can get. Kind of, yeah, she lives. Yep.

She gets to go out and spread her seeds, so to speak. She gets to touch other worlds. And they watch as the tyrannids just start mauling the planet. And they're just like, oh, look at how I can't believe I'm missing this. Oh, the angels, how could I miss this? And it's like, girl, I don't think you realize what you're missing. Though, I think she does, though. Isn't that kind of part of it at the end

Where they're very much like Yeah Angels or Monsters What's the difference? I thought at the end She was like still kind of You know like she still thought they're like Oh yeah they look just like I thought they'd look

Oh yeah they're angels Maybe I miss read it I don't know I know she Well no I think she said she They did not look like how she thought they would look But they did what she thought they would do Firing all their stuff down on the planet

And it's like the angels would come like this and she expected that, but she didn't expect them to be giant winged maws of teeth. Right, right, right, yeah. I might have just misread that. So, out of curiosity, why weren't you as big on the book as I was? Because I fucking love this one. I don't know.

It just didn't quite do it from. Like, it seemed, I don't know if it was just because it seemed like the Gene Steeler cult seem very... I don't know if I want to say expected. Like how they acted was very like... It's how you expect Gene Stealers to act, and it didn't... I don't know, it just didn't resonate with me that well. I don't know if that makes any sense, but...

No, no, I mean, sometimes when you read a book or any piece of media, it just might not hit the same as other things do. Yeah, it just seemed very, like, by the numbers, like, oh, yeah, this is, you know... Although I did feel very sorry for the Gene Steeler, cults. Like, even though they've been, you know, tainted, that's kind of hard not to feel for them and be like, oh, yeah, this is why people praise the many-handed emperor, because look at the ad mech and look at how horrible they are. And I mean, when you're the Imperium, it's like, you're not, you know, when your choices are ad mech or, you know, uh, jean steeler,

it's not hard to see why people will follow the gene stealer cults. Yeah, I think that was, because I remember when we were talking about, talking about all of the Gene Steeler Colts in our episodes. There was the underlying feeling of pretty grim, dark, grim darkness about they get thrown into the soup and their mind get severed. Yeah. But like, I have a bit of a hard, okay, so I'm having a bit of a lore impasse here. Because this is a plan, a plan generations in the making, as they always say, right?

Yes. Which means that a lot of the people who jump into the soup Are not like They're not the ones who really betrayed their people They're kids upon kids upon kids Yeah so I don't really know if that would be a thing That they're very like what would they really forget That's true that's true because they're not

They wouldn't even have been the ones that like seeded the planet Or been there for like the initial seeding or betraying or anything like that so I originally was saying that, you know, at the end of the day, the tyrannids are an evil because they are a gigantic high of mine that consumes all. Yeah, they're just looking for their next meal. But I must say, I think I'd pick the Janstair cults over the ad mech. If anything, just for those four weeks of festival they had after they roused up and won, those four weeks of no more backbreaking labor.

because the familial ties between them all, between their aunts and uncles and brothers and sons, was so strong. Oh, yeah. It's, I don't know. If you're on morod, like, I, too, would pick the Gene Staler Cold. No way I would go admec.

Like, admec is just, like, enslavement. It's the worst kind of enslavement. It is the worst kind of enslavement. Like, it's, it is the worst. So yeah, I'd be hard pressed to find someone to be like, oh, yeah, I totally go ad mech. Oh, I sympathize with the ad mech. Like within the first, like 30 minutes of the book,

they're going around taking people for like the Scatari legions. This lady's like, no, please don't take it. He's my only son. And it's like records show that you have birth three children. Like, no, the other two died in the minds or something. And Scatari is like, you did not fill out. the proper death forms. Yep. So you're taking your last kid too.

Yeah, say, next time, get your paperwork in order, steals final child. Yeah, oh my God. It's awful. Brough. Brough. Oh my God. Yeah. Amec or bad.

Shai had a quick thing. She said, the whole disconnect from mine throwing the soup is not universal as that happen all the time. Nids often allow many of the cultists to live so they can spread the cult. Every time I bring that up, Gene Stair cult fan. scream about that in the comments. Oh, really? That actually, in a sense, is what happens at the end of this book.

Damien and a few other people. What was the name of that big Scutari, the Alpha that they had? Oh, Tentangram? Yeah, wow. Dude, I read this literally yesterday. I read it like two weeks ago. And you're getting all these names. Wow.

Yeah, Ten Tangram, the Skatari Alpha was, yeah, the two of them go to go, like, see to other worlds and stuff. Yep, that was the big reveal at the end, right? Was that, yeah, this, they've been seeding this planet for a lot longer than Triskelyan thought. The, yeah, yeah, because, well, they kept taking all of their, because it's been like, what, five, six, seven generations. And so when they keep stealing all of the kids that have the genes to their cult infection in them, someone made a funny point they said Admec in books are written two ways Funny weak nerd and god

And I found that in Bruton we had God Oh yeah definitely we had God And in this book we had weak nerd Well I don't know well Yeah I guess they were weak nerd that's true For the tech priests at least For the tech priests yeah that's fair

Like, because I remember in Brutal Cunning, they had that big fight at the end with like the major fabricators. And he just pulled out like 17 like guns and torches out of his body when they started fighting. It was really fun, but this one, no, it was like Triskelly was running away from a single pistol. Yeah, yeah, it was. And then you had, you had a, I want to call her Cyrene. Cyrene is the, um, she's first heretic. Yep, no eyes. What the hell's her name again, the assassin?

Securi. Securi, okay, that's a fair issue there. That is. Those are very similar names. I can see you getting those mixed up. Yeah, Shai makes an interesting point. In Brueh Kunt and Admec were strong, but they were underestimating the orcs, which was dumb. Whereas in this book, Triskeleon underestimated the gene-stealer cults, but not a lot.

Well, yeah, like he underestimated. just how much the mutation had taken from, like, the admec, or that it had even infiltrated the admec. He was just like, oh, yeah, these mutants, I can use them to start an uprising and start a coup and take over, and everything will be fine. He didn't quite plan for the fact that, no, these gene steals have been here and been seeding a long time.

Like, they're in your robots. Yeah, that was the interesting thing. is that he did win. His plan worked. The only thing that wouldn't have worked, the only thing that stopped him was the fact that the Steeler Colt was fucking around with there's Katari.

Which means he certainly had a good idea and his idea mostly worked out. Even though Davian released them and did all these other things, even with all of that and the outward problems that occurred, it worked. his plan come to fruition.

Just the Scutari were screwed up. One minor detail. Did you like when Davian met the aunts and uncles? I thought that was fucking dope. Yes. Yes. I mean, naturally, you're going to be in awe of these great aunts and uncles. And wasn't it, was it Clarissa that didn't want her to start any trouble

and didn't want her to try and go rescue secure? and didn't want her to do any shenanigans and to wait for the promised time or something like that. I don't, again, the names. Clarissa sounds close. I always thought of her as Clarice from Silence of the Lambs. I don't really know why. I don't know why I thought that,

but that's where my mind went. Yeah, she was the old, like, really won't good, or Charlie's dad, a grandpa, bedridden, and then stands up immediately when he gets to go to the Chalka Factory. Yippee! Yep. That was her. It's like, no, don't, because she was there,

Megas, I believe. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like the head honcho. The psycher leader, yeah. Which also makes sense for a tidbit that I didn't actually think about. She asked to release Securi

and the Magos was like, why did I say yes to that? And I think it's because she was a cyker and probably fucked with him a little bit. Yeah, probably. Because Megas are psychers. That's, uh, that's fair. Yeah.

Yeah. It could certainly work out that way. I don't know. Maybe, maybe. It's a very, it's a very short, short book, but it keeps you, I think it keeps a very solid level of like, good tension, good curiosity, almost the entire way through.

Yeah. There's really not a dull moment. I think, I don't know if it was just to me, but like the only big twist was like the end part where all of this Katari turn. I wasn't expecting that, but I don't know, everything up until that point, it seemed to progress like how I thought it would, you know? Like I kind of thought everything was going to kind of go according to plan. Burr's one was probably going to get killed. And the only thing that I was really like

unsure of was what Triskelyan was going to do to Davian and everything afterwards. Like if he was actually going to like just kill all of them and betray them or if they were going to, you know? No, that's a good point. It did basically go the path I thought it would because I've seen enough World War II movies to know about how this is going to go. In fact, I think that's the reason why I found Triskelian's plot more interesting. Oh, yeah.

Because I wanted to know what is he doing with the Fabricator General. What is his plan? What is his coup ability? Yeah. Because he's obviously very capable. Like, he's a capable dude. He was supposed to be Fabricator General. But I did want to see him kill Berzelum, though.

Burzlam is just, whew. Berslum was a comically huge piece of shit. Oh, yes. He was comic Like he was a stereotype How how ridiculous he was How adeptus ridiculous he was Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha about it

No he was and then you you have His little underling who was always just agreeing with him all It's it's very comical Yep it is very on the nose comical Tyrant Just a comical stereotype of the tyrant Which I mean it certainly worked out the way

it was supposed to go. It was interesting that the main character for the admec was the one who cared more about flesh. Yeah. Yeah, you would think in ad meck, there wouldn't be too many people that were into the soft sciences. The soft sciences. Soft sciences. I do enjoy the VA quite a bit for this one. Oh yeah, the VA did amazing. Yes. I liked him a lot mainly also because I'm Well, I love me some Jonathan Keeble. Jonathan Keeble, I love you, man. You do a great job. But you narrate every goddamn 40K book.

Every single one. All of them. I think I've read five or six books with his VA. And it's very good. But I'm like, there's patterns that occur. And so I was very happy to listen to a different VA who did a very, very good job still with how he did it. Yeah, he did a really good job on. Berzelum.

Berzle. Berselam. Oh, Triskelian, you young man, you do not know about the fucking metal, you bitch. Bambam, bim, bim, bim. Be into the soft sciences. I'm Berslame. He's so great. I need to, what is, what is his name?

I need to at least say, say. Oh, oh, the voice actor, yeah. Yeah. Find his name and give him his due. That is called well of ascension. That is not the one. Harry Myers. Harry Myers.

Harry Myers has done, oh, wow, quite a few 40K books. Oh, as of recently, he's done a whole lot of non-40K books, and then he did Erdesh, the Serpent and the Saint, Erdash, the Magister and the Martyr, gloom spite, the Wraithbone, Phoenix, and the vor...

Ooh, what's this? The Vorbis conspiracy. The Vorbis conspiracy. Oh, is this an audio drama? Sorry, we'll get to this later. But yeah, I guess there's a lot less to talk about with Dave Ascension because it is very expected. You're right, there isn't a whole lot of twist returns.

It's a... I wouldn't call it a safe book, but it is a very constantly retold story that is just given a gloss of Gene Steeleer-Cult and Admec paint Yeah, yeah That's probably what it was

It's like you've heard this story before The ending is nice though I like the sort of twist they pull on the ending But yeah Yeah I think it could have been a little bit less exposition there Oh definitely Because the doctor just like said the whole thing and I'm like...

Yeah, it was just the doctor explaining the whole damn thing. Yeah, I could have gone with a... Well, you've been taking her kids for generations and you say were xenos infected dot, dot, dot, dot. That would have been enough. I've been like, all right, I get it. I get it. The ad mecker turning.

He gave the little clue right there. Got it. He gave us like two paragraphs of exposition. Exposition on how, hey, here's exactly how it happened. I mean, I do like the irony of the Day of Ascension being turned on the Admec from their little holiday to, oh, it's the day that we ascend and the... The title of the book is excellent. It's a three-way thing, actually. It's the Admec's Day of Ascension.

It is the Genius Steelers' Colts uprising and it's Triskelian's Ascension to Fabricator General. Ah, that is true. His day of ascension. Yeah. Yes, that title for all of five minutes. He gets it for a cup of coffee and then... Yeah, the soft sciences, naturally. Okay, so there was one thing I was kind of curious about here.

And this is certainly a conspiracy theory that I have. Okay, so we remember... Oh, no, it would have taken too long for this to come out. Ah, never mind. So, did you at all notice how much Day of Ascension was like arcane? Um. So you have, you have Vi, who's Davian, and then you've got Vanda, who's her adult telling her, no, it's not time yet, it's not time yet.

It's not time yet, so it's a rise up or do anything. And then you've got, you've got all the higher-ups that are like the council, which is bulbous and shit and then the ad mec guy who always wants his stuff done which would be Jace and then they even have a progress day

thing for Piltover instead of... Yeah, Dave Ascension and I'm like I was reading it and I was like we all know that Riot Games director Mr. Trindamir

loves Warhammer and he got Graham McNeil to help writer of Warhammer books to work on Arcane and I'm like I'm got that picture of fucking Pepe Sylvia goddamn Charlie Day right there. That whole thing. It was really close.

But they released like two months apart. And that's when I was like, oh, never mind. Might just be a coincidence. Yeah. Because again, that's a fairly, you know, popular outline for stories, right? Oh, yeah. There are other mediums that you could sort of put that template over in and get the same sort of coincidental overview. of, so.

Yeah, that's when I looked at it. I was released January 29th, 2020, and then Arcane was November of last year. And I'm like, oh, damn. I realized it. But, but goddamn, was it close sounding? The similarities are there, though, so, you know. I absolutely are.

Though, I didn't actually realize Dave's Session released this year. Wow. Almost ended, like, end of January. Like, yeah, it's closer than I thought. Yeah. I, uh, you know, there's not, a lot extra to talk about it overall. It's very good. I like... It's solid. You know, not my favorite,

but it's a fine book. Well written. Good story. But yeah, kind of expected until the end. Yeah, I guess I think I like it a lot because it's one of those books that can be read by... This is actually a thing I would give to anyone who even is not doing 40K. Like, this is, this is good. All you got to do is tell like ad mech like machines and these are bugs. And you pretty much can just let them go with the story, you know, because you don't really need a whole lot of earlier 40K understanding to get this book. Yeah, you give them a brief overview of what the Nids or what the Gene Steeler cult is and what the ad mech are.

And yeah, that's kind of all you really need. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I actually would give it a very high rating. I give it like an eight and a half. Oh, I give it like a six, six. six out of ten. A real six out of ten. A real six out of ten.

It's a fair book. It's slightly above average for me. Nothing out of this world, but it's, I would still recommend to pick it up and read it because it's a well-done book, but it's not going to, it didn't blow my socks off. That's totally fine. Six out of ten is above average, and if we're going above average, I am okay with that. I think it's excellent. I highly recommend it to any tiernid player.

and I think it would definitely make some Gene Stere cult fans out of it. Oh, definitely. Because you have to sympathize with a gene stiler cult in this book. Like, there's just, their plate is just so, so difficult. And it's, it becomes like one of those books where it's like, oh, yeah,

I totally understand why someone would betray the empire or the ruling faction in lieu of the many-handed emperor that they don't know any better about other than, oh, we're all just trying to be better and we're all just trying to get the angels to come for us, you know? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yep.

All right. Excellent, excellent book. I would say go read it. Go check out Day of Ascension personally. And yeah, very, very good choice. I'm very happy we chose it. Shy says she demands to pick a new book this time, despite not really having a right to because she doesn't read any of them.

So I will, you will be humored. You shall be humored, a little shy. Mm-hmm. Uh, bloodlines. What is that? A Gustio Vidarov novel by Chris Wright? I suggest Bloodlines by Chris Wright or Rate. It's a Warhammer crime novel, no Space Marines, no Imperial Garum.

This is a detective noir story and a look about what it's like to live in a giant hive city full of crime and corruption from the point of view of an average hume. We've done lots of space marine episodes. We've got a break from that. Also, Luton said it's really good. plus the Vorbis conspiracy you mentioned earlier is part of this series. I will fucking read it. Wow.

You know what? I said she's going to read it. That must be a hell of a book then. All right. It's also got a great cover too. Wow. Yeah, it does. It has a really good cover.

All right. I am so down for that. I was actually going to recommend Eisenhorn for the next one because it's also a detective kind of thing, but it's more inquisitorial. So I am down for. I am down for it. Hell yeah. Interesting.

Interesting. What? Bloodlines. Did you say it's part of the Vorbis conspiracy in the sense of like it's a, it's like a prequel or something? Or is it like, or is the Vorbis conspiracy like an anthology series?

That'd be kind of neat anthology Warhammer Crime. That'd be cool. That would be very neat. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that's our next book. Bloodlines, apparently. Apparently?

Interesting. Let's go. I genuinely expected some orc shit. I really did. Okay. I expected orch shit too, and she demanded to pick the new book. I was like, oh, it's got to be orch shit, right? Demanded.

Demand. I was like, man, this is a new orc book came out that I don't know about. All right. Oh, yeah, I'll usually try the war boss book is not an audible yet. That's a good point. That's fair. All right. Well, short and sweet.

just like the book itself, to all of our viewers. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Go ahead and get started on bloodlines whenever you get the opportunity to. That'll be our next major project. And we will see you next week for, I believe, the Dornian Heresy episode. Ooh, that's right. We do still have to do that, don't we? Hell yeah.

All right. Peace out, man dog. Bye. Stop. Thank you.