Adeptus Ridiculous - DREADNOUGHTS: EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE! | Warhammer 40k lore feat. Kirioth

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

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Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. And today's going to be ever so slightly different. Normally, I'm joined by my co-host Bricky. But unfortunately, I think he might have had too much forget-me juice. And he's out with strep throat. So wishing Bricky a very speedy recovery, but we do have a very special guest. He is our friend Kiryoth.

I will let him introduce himself in a second. But before that, if you enjoy today's podcast, heading over to patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. If you enjoy the podcast, get yourself access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen, HD posters,

real nice quality HD posters, and all that sort of behind the scene stuff. So patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. But like I said, Bricky is out today with Strepthroat, and we have our friend Kiryoth, who you may have heard on one of Shai's art streams in the past,

welcome friend thank you for filling in and uh I think a small introduction telling people about yourself a little bit it's a good start right you know let them get to know you yeah give them an idea as to what they've let themselves in for

just by clicking the thing that's yeah got a fair warning haven't you yeah you're doing us a solid and it's much appreciated well I think I think the best way to describe just generally what happens

on my channel is just random nonsense about Warhammer. That's pretty much it. Models, things that are happening, complaints increasingly. But just general, if it involves 40K or Age of Sigma, and especially if involves like the models for them or turning them into weird monstrosities. I'm all about it, and that's pretty much everything that I do on my channel, which is, for the most part, getting more and more random and weird,

but you got to switch it up. You've got to make things different occasionally, even if that means going off the rails every now and again. Man, it's more fun that way, isn't it? I was going to say, if you're just all about random Warhammer nonsense, you're going to fit in real well here. That's all we do.

It's just off the rails, Warhammer memes and lore and eventually going into the tabletop and how random shit. You're going to do fine. You're going to do, you're perfect. It's great. I feel like it's on paper at least a pretty good fit. As long as it just maintained, it's fine.

On paper, this is going to go well. In practice, we'll see. What is it? Theoretical and practical, if you're being or Gilliman and like it. Theoretically, yes, 100%. Practically, we'll just have to wait and see. Oh, poor Gilliman. Poor present-day Gilliman.

I like him. It makes him. I hate the Ultramarines. Love Gilliman. I love the contrast of having like someone that was around for the Horace heresy in present day Imperium and him just fucking hating everything, but he can't do anything about it. Like you can't just topple the Imperium. It's great. It's such a good, like, plotist where they've taken someone who is essentially like borderline all powerful.

Like he's a full on demi-god. Oh yeah. Almost indestructible can take on waves of enemies by himself as a ridiculously, like, all over. just absurdly powerful, strategic mind, and then they stick him in a position where it's like, well, you hate every second of this, but you can do nothing. Enjoy. And then you just get to watch the fallout.

It's great. Yeah. You know everything the Emperor of Mankind didn't want the Imperium to come? Yeah, it's all come to pass. Enjoy. It's like, oof. Oh, and do you remember the brother that backstabbed you and just trashed half of your empire?

They're all using the book that he wrote to just, justify it, so have fun. Yeah, it's a little... Poor Gilliman, but makes them a super interesting character. Anyway, so what are we learning about today? We are going kind of Space Marine adjacent because

if there's anyone listening who has had any experience with my channel, they would know that I'm quite a fan of the Space Marine Dreadnought in all its forms. So we're going to talk about dreadnoughts today because on the face of it... Nice!

On the face of it, it's just a box with legs and you could look at them and go, some of these are a bit dated, some of these aren't that great, but there's loads of different versions, there's a bunch of different loadouts, some of them make the people inside them go crazy. It's great. There's so many, like, different, there's just so many different things about them,

even down to, like, chapter-specific ones. So, you know, you might have, you might have your standard box, nor, as it's kind of, like, fondly known. it's the proper old, it just looks like a box on legs. It's still awesome. But that's the, that's the Castroferum patterned Dreadnought. And for ages, that was like the only one you could really get.

It was the only one that was really properly represented on the tabletop. But now, now they went all out and they were like, no, we're not just having this version. They were like chapter-specific ones. So like the blood angels have got one that's just got two close combat weapons because they're the blood angels. Of course. what they do. And occasionally they'll put someone in a Dreadnaut who still goes into the black rage,

so they paint it black and give it a red stripe. And then it's a Death Company Dreadnought, which has got, again, two close combat weapons, but just goes insane in close combat, which... Oh, God. Even that, it's like Dreadnought actually kind of rare. They're not something that should be just absolutely everywhere, but the Blood Angels will stick the, like, half-dead... space marine into one and if it if he goes crazy it's like well can we direct him at the enemy yes grand

paint it black send him on his way let's go he was gonna go crazy anyway he's got the black rage so you might be put him in a giant vessel that makes him even more potent on the battlefield and just let him go just get out of its way everybody because dreadnots are serious like you don't fuck with a dreadnought oh yeah they're really the thing I love about the dreadnought is just the fact that it is a, it's like a vaguely humanoid suit of armour. It's like a massive suit of armour for a half-dead guy. And it is so like heavy, armoured and powerful compared to a normal space marine. And the only way you can get into one is by being almost dead.

It's like you're not quite, you're not quite 100% gone. There's just enough left of you to be stuck into a sarcophagus, which you can take in and out of dreadnoughts. So, like, for instance, just to do a mild tangent for, to set up something later, chaos, chaos dreadnoughts, they're, you know, they, after a while become something a bit more twisted and a bit more, like, evil and, and almost mouthful. They become hellbrutes. I was, I was about to pull that name too. I was like, I think it's hellbrut, because I've seen a couple of them, and they are gnarly. They're great looking, but, oh. Yeah, yeah, they've got, the muscle coming out of the joints and the armor kind of turns into flesh, they're really creepy.

I love them. They're like horrific. They like fuse with the dreadnought and they got all these tentacles and, ugh. Yeah. Yep. They tend to, uh, the Keros Marines tend to go a bit mad in dreadnoughts. So a way around them just killing everything around them whilst they're not actually in battle is they just take the sarcophagus out of it. So that they are in complete darkness with no sensory input just raging at,

black nothingness until they're actually needed, which is horrific. Yeah, that is... So one of the things about the dreadnoughts is I was of the same mindset that, like, I always thought they look kind of boring, because you're right, they're like, it's a box on legs with guns. But the lore behind them is so fucking wild that you can take a nearly dead person, and it's just like, even in death you serve the emperor. And it's just like, oh my God, it's...

You can't even let the corpse be peaceful. You've got to stick that into a fucking box and just let it go hog wild. Dreadnots are cool. Dreadnots are... They're like, they are like peak 40K to me because it's not just that the person inside is a space marine which is already, you know, the iconic 40K thing.

But it's not just a space marine. It's a nearly dead space marine who has got enough willpower to be able to actually pilot this horrific like part robot that they have to be nearly dead to be put into in the first place and in some cases it just breaks them like it just destroys

their mind. The normal dreadnoughts aren't too bad for that so like you your box nauts you you castropherum which is the worst name ever by the way trying to pronounce it more than three times in like half an hour there's just no chance it's not too bad they can

remain pretty functional for quite a while but as time goes on it gets harder and harder to wake them up between battles and such and so you end up in like the territory of venerable dreadnoughts which kind of the same as the Castroferum but they get like more ornate because they've got a marine in who is like ancient there are some venerable dreadnoughts that have been around for

like for centuries upon centuries one of the most famous ones is is Bjorn the fell handed which is a venerable dreadnought of the space Space Wolves, and the guy inside it fought on Prospero against Magnus the Red with Lehman Ross. Wow. So he is absolutely ancient.

I think he's the oldest dreadnought that, oldest dreadnought that exists. I think probably by proxy, like the oldest Space Marine in the Imperium at this point as well, I would assume, outside of some of the Chaos Marines who, you know, is still lurking around, because, but they've got like time shenanigans with the warp going on, whereas Bjorn has not had that, he's just been there. He's just a monster. He gets woken up once a century. I was going to say, for a book club,

we're reading the Night Lord's trilogy about Talos, and they revive a dreadnought. I keep mixing up his name. Is it, it's either Malcador or Malcarian is his name, and he was around, he was at least around long enough to see Conrad Kerr's and Conrad Kerr's death, I think. So yeah, you've got the, you've got the, your standard,

you standard box-nought, your standard castropherum, why do I, I'm just going to say box-nought, we're just going to stick with box-nought, because it's so much easier to say. The thing is, if you just say Dreadnought, now that doesn't apply. You could say Mark 5 Dreadnought, because that's the most, like, common one, that's the most common chassis that there is, and that's the one that's like is kind of all over the tabletop

but you can't just say dreadnought anymore because it went from being here's a dreadnought you can take a dreadnought to there being the dreadnought the venerable dreadnought there is chaos dreadnoughts there's also contempt to dreadnoughts

Leviathan dreadnorts Derridao dreadnorts redempted dreadnoughts Galatious dreadnorts and oh there's another one as well that I can't remember the name of that's annoying I nearly got all of them I think but yeah there's quite a few and they've kind of gone from just being

Yeah, it's going to go from this box on legs to some of the coolest designs for the space marine stuff by far. When you call it a box, not all I can see in my head is like just this shoddy, like, cardboard box with legs now. Just like a metal gear solid box. Just an actual cardboard box with the flaps hanging down and just a little pair of legs. Yeah, with like some packaging tape on top and it just got some like human. legs and human feet coming out of it and it just says Dreadnought in like Sharpie on the front like a moving

like a moving company just sort of scribbled it on. That's, I want that. I would absolutely proxy that on the tabletop. I'd do it, I don't care. Even in depth I still serve with the cardboard kid that shy posted. Someone make that

someone make that like a 3D model so I can print it. I want to use that as a proxy for a normal dreadnought. would absolutely do it. Yes. We've proxied Doge Van Dyer before and Briggies used it on dice check. So why not this? Why not an actual cardboard box for a dreadnought? A cardboard box not. Oh God. Now that is dyes quality. That's actually pretty solid. You can make that in a actual kit. That's not bad. That's a that's a dreadnought out of cardboard. There you go. It's pretty solid. You did, in one of the starter sets, you did get.

an orc dreadnought which was just a cardboard cut out. So it was a picture of an ork dreadnought on shaped card with a little stand it went in. Oh, that's great. I mean, it's like,

it's not, it's, it's brilliant, it's also like you open the box in a of what the hell is this, but it's weirdly nostalgic. I have tried to pick one up and it's surprisingly difficult to get hold of. People don't want to get rid of them. now I'm just like man

what if an orc actually found like a cardboard box and was like is this a dreadnought like you know you know that anime picture of the guy looking at the flower like is this a or not a flower little moth is this a whatever now I'm just picturing an orc

looking at a cardboard box going is this a dreadnought and he's like oh my god this is a dreadnought and he convinces his whole clan that it's a dreadnought and this fucking cardboard box actually becomes a dreadnought because this fucking idiot Ork convinced everybody, it's an imperial trade nought in it.

That was a solid accent, by the way. Thank you. You know, if someone hasn't made that already, then I really don't know where the 40K community is in terms of, you know, in terms of like productivity. Someone must have got a cardboard box and stuck an orc out of the top of it and stuck weapons on it. Someone must have done that, surely. And if they haven't, that needs to be Shise-N-Nex art stream.

Painting Ork Dreadnoughts. He just brings out a cardboard box. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Just print the money. That feels like a challenge, actually. That feels like something that should be a challenge. Yeah.

To build an Ork Dreadnought. We've got a lot of people listening right now probably, so, you know, add us on Twitter. Just flood Twitter with pictures of cardboard orc dreadnoughts. that you've built? Yeah, you have to actually build it. Yeah, out of cardboard. Because everybody's got a boatload of cardboard sitting around. It's fine.

Oh, God. Yeah, there is an actual orc dreadnought. It's a deaf dread, instead of a dreadnought. And it's a bit different in that the orcs aren't half dead when you put them in. They just pilot it from the inside. The thing is, I, I've always known it to be orcs that are piloting them, but it does say a few places that Gretchen pilot them, which is confusing because Gretchen pilot the tiny versions.

So there's a Def Dread, which is the Orr Version, and then there's a killer can, which is a little tiny baby one. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just like a little oil drum with legs and a bussoor. It's great. Oh, yeah, I've seen Killikans before. I've never seen the Dev Dred.

The Dev Dred looks sick, though. It's really good. Jope. I love the way Orcs. do skulls. I love that aesthetic. Yeah. They definitely have some of the best looking

vehicles, orcs. And I have to admit, I think the deaf dread looks better than the standard dreadnought, just because it's more, there's more like, yeah, there's more visual interest going on and it's, you know, it's got more weapons for a start, more arms, more weapons, buzz saws and chainsaws and chainsaws

and all sorts of, like, pinces and stuff, it's so good. Looks like a Swiss army knife. Yeah. The best thing is that a lot of them have got, like, they'll have, like, chain swords and stuff, but they won't have anything to grip necessarily that isn't also a chain sword. So, like, even the top claw, if you look at the top claw on that one, it's technically a claw, but it's just, it's just swords.

It's just going to cut you half. What are you going to grip with that? Well, I guess you could just scissor a space marine in half with two chainsword snips. but that's gross. I'm pretty sure one of the best parts of the, well I'll say best parts of Dawn of War III trailer, just one of the best parts of Dawn of War III flat out because

I hated that game. I'm pretty sure in there there is a scene of a space marine getting picked up and just like crushed to pieces by a deaf dread which I, it just made me so happy. It made me so happy. Space brain getting fucked?

Yeah. And just smushed by an ork. They do have as well two kind of like bigger, more impressive dreads, the orcs. So they've got the deaf dread. They also have a mecca dread and a big mech dread,

which are both forge world models, which are similar to the deaf dread, but bigger and uglier and with bigger weapons. Those are like, those are great models. I think they might be currently out of production. I don't know whether they can

back or not, but that's like, they're like a wish list item of one day. I have no need for it, but one day I will own one of these. Oh, is that what it looks like? Yeah. Holy shit. I believe, that I believe is the mech, is the, uh, the mega dread. Mecca dread. Holy shit. It's so good. Wow. That's a, that is a, can you really call that a mini though? It's pretty That's a medium

So these dreadnots These orc ones They're different from the human Because you don't got to be a dead orc To drive this right Is any orc A Gretchen can pilot it It is whatever

It's just a bunch of levers and buttons And they just They drop a lad in And they're like This is forward And this is the This is the kill button Off you go

And then they just let They just let them have at it That sounds like a great time for an ork. Forward, kill. Wonderful. I feel like they get much more enjoyment out of it than the poor, like, three-quarters dead, missing all limbs, you know, half his face gone, space marine. It's been shoved into it. Way more fun to be an ork, dreadnobiling.

Get out and stretch your legs afterward. You mean, you have legs, which is already probably more fun. Low blow. Why don't you just cut their legs out from under him, guy? It's the actual, it's one of those weird things where for 40, like for the space marines, it should be an awful thing. Like it should be really bad to end up in a dreadnought. But like your loyalist space marines, for the most part, it's like an honour. They get to continue serving even after death.

Like even as they are on the verge of, on the verge of death, they get to continue serving the emperor and serving their chapter. Chaos Space Marines hate it. it and do not want it, and it's more of a punishment than anything else. Is it really? They, Chaos Space Marine just don't like it? They just don't want anything to do with it. For the most part, a Chaos Space Marine does not want to go into a Chaos Rednaut,

mostly because it will become a hell brute after a while. It will just start fusing with itself, go insane from, like, pain and anger, and... It's not a great fate. To be honest, it can be not great for normal space marines either. So with your normal dreadnought and your venerable dreadnought, generally speaking, they might get harder to rouse and they might go to sleep for longer, and it might be a bit trickier to actually get them into fighting condition, the longer they've been in a dreadnought,

like waking Bjorn up every 100 years, so that the entire, so that the entirety of the space wolves can gather around and listen to him, because he's like a direct link back to Lehman Rus. He's like the soul of the chapter. So he, well, I say chapter. For them, it's more legion still. But, like, he actually is like a proper tangible link back to that. There is some dreadnought that that doesn't really work so well with.

So the Leviathan pattern dreadnought, which is one of the, I think, for me personally, the absolute favorite. The Leviathan, eventually it just. places a lethal level of strain on the occupant. Oh no. So after a while, just the mental capacity and like the willpower required to control a Leviathan, they just burn out and die. And they have to be replaced with someone else because the actual dreadnought itself kills them slowly over time, which is even more brutal than being put in it in the first place, really. I know. You have to be basically dead to get put in the damn thing, and then the thing is just going to slowly kill you even further when you're basic... Oh, that's awful.

That's the worst, yeah. Are Leviathan dreadnoughts at least like super mega beefy and like... Oh, yeah. So better than a regular dreadnought, I assume. Yeah, they're way better than a regular. They're stronger, they're more heavily armored, they have access to some of the, just some of the best weapons. So a few of the things that they have access to, something called a Levitan Storm Cannon.

So it's a four-barreled gun that can just mince infantry like nothing. It can just tear through infantry. They have like older kind of dark age of technology stuff as well. Like the... I forget the name of it. It's a grav weapon that kind of just dumps miniature black holes on people is roughly how it works. So it's pretty good,

but it does have the downside of, you know, burning the occupant out. It takes a while, it takes a while, but they do, they do eventually, they do eventually die whilst interred in the, in the Leviathan, which is just a bit harsh.

Well, I mean, you know what they say. You got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette, right? So, got to crack a few, crack a few space marine brains to crack a few almost already dead legendary space marines to make an omla that's fine

also these things are tankiest shit I just posted what the mini looks like and damn that's a beefy boy damn they are my favorite they're my favorite easily

they're just so they're so chunky and the actual weapons are like are like massively beefy grab flux bombard that's the name of the other one the one that just launches grabs of people.

Jesus. The one that Shai's just put in is a, it's a derideo pattern. So this one is, this is, basically they took a contemptor, they stuck,

well, a leviathan, they stuck like a kind of, kind of boat-like front on it, and gave it the biggest guns known to man. That's like, those are like warship cannons.

Like you, those look like fucking lancers that you'd put on a spaceship. It's ridiculous. Giant missile launcher. I think actually think I think it's technically kind of based on the contempt of thinking about the Leviathan, but it's like it has very similar legs.

Like it's a heavy, it's like a heavy support platform where they just ram guns all over it. The chest is like super kind of pushed out because it can fit heavy bolters or heavy flamers just in the chest of the dreadnought. Oh my God.

Those are little guns in the chest, aren't they? Yeah. So it's got the main gigantic cannons and the gigantic missile launcher. And just in case it needs it, more guns sticking out from under the chest. You know, there's still space in the kneecaps and the feet. You guys haven't put any guns in there. You know, there's plenty of space for it. Yeah, I could fit another one or two in there.

Oh, yeah, certainly, certainly. I was expecting it to go, like, full, like, anime mecca, and, like, the chest opens up and there's, like, a big, fuck you, mega can in the middle. I was kind of hoping for that, but, oh well, looking you. I bet someone's done that, to be honest. Oh, probably. Someone's probably converted that and carved out the middle. Yeah, definitely. Maybe I should do that. That's, that's a good idea. Maybe you should. I think, mm, hmm, hmm, something, something I meant to mention at the start, which would hopefully legitimize my kind of over-obsession with dreadnoughts to some degree.

At time of recording, there are 32 in the room with me. So... You have 32 dreadnoughts? Yes. Damn. It's worth pointing out. It's not just like I like the idea of them. I also just really do like dreadnoughts.

For quite a while, my main army was a just a dedicated dreadnought army, and it was just dreadnoughts and nothing else. About 4,000... It ended up... After the change were made to points, it ended up... being well over 4,000 points of just dreadnoughts. So, yeah, I like them. They're a lot of fun. How scary would that be to roll up against them? It's like, oh, yeah, here's my army, I've got some space marines, I've got some vehicles, and you're just like, yeah, I just have dreadnots.

It actually did pretty well, but only because the people fighting me were very understanding and let me just ignore things like detachments. It was very much one of those, I'm going to do a little force of a few Dreadnors, because that would be fun. And then it just spiraled, like, absurdly out of control to the extent where I was, like, trying to build up one of every type of contemptor. So, like, the Contemptor dreadnought, it's my second favourite after the Leviathan. The Contemptor is, like, it's a smaller one. It's kind of more, more rounded, more sort of, it looks more developed than the Box Nort does.

but the contemptor and Leviathans they both have individual models for each Legion from Forge World or at least the contemptors do, the Leviathons are still catching up and I was on a mission for a while to have one of every legions contemptor which is a bit of an ask

I got a fair way through it to be honest but yeah they they are stronger and better than your standard. Red Nauts, they're better than the Box Nort. They have a bit more in terms of firepower with certain weapons, but

overall for me, they just look better. They look more articulated, they look a bit more... They still look really heavily armored, even though they're kind of relatively slim. Yeah, they're a really good pattern and there's a lot of different versions of them, like the Thousand Suns one.

So the Thousand Suns have a Psycho Dreadnought. They did in the Horus, well, in, in, like, before and during the Horace heresy anyway, I don't believe they have access to those anymore, but. Yeah, you probably just have to, you probably just have to field the hellbrute if you want to do that for Thousand Suns, right? You can still take contemptors for Chaos Space Marines. You can still take relic stuff, so relic contemptors and Leviathens. I think they're hell-forged for Chaos technically, but you can still field them, but I don't know whether they can use the actual psychic one that they had access to and have access to in the Horace heresy rules.

Essentially they were like, okay, everyone in this legion is a psycher. But when we die, or when we get nearly wrecked and get put in a dreadnought, lose access to psychic power, what do we do? So Magnus decided that he would fix it and created an Osiris device, which you kind of put onto the... It goes around the brain, I believe, if I remember correctly. of the guy who's been, you know, nearly, nearly killed. And that allows him to use his psychic powers through the Dreadnought itself.

So it's not just a contemptor with a, on that one, there's a twin-linked auto-canon and a close combat weapon, but it's also a psycher at the same time, which is awesome. It's great. That's a pretty, that's a pretty swanky device Magnus made there. He gave it to all the legions And then none of them used it What? Oh well that's true

I guess a lot of the legion would be like Psycher shit Yeah they got a bit A bit antsy about that didn't they Yeah Lehman Rust is just Just angry wolf noises Such a hypocrite though

You can't be against psychos Then they'd be like Yeah but my lads are fine Because they're not really psychers Not really Come on Liam You're smarter than this. Let's not be

nitpicking. Lehman smart. Fair. Maybe fair comment there. As a thousand sons player, I take, not player, as a thousand sons fan,

any chance I get to poke fun at Lehman Russ or those fucking space wolves, I take it. I take that shot. It's justified. It's justified. The other thing,

I'll just, because of us, I'll totally forget, because I always forget this, even on tabletop when I'm playing with a bunch of dreadnors. I always forget to take the fact that the Contemptor has a shield as well. So on the things that locks it out

from being kind of on par with a box, a bit stronger and a bit tougher. And also they have a shield, an Atomantic Field, which I think is the right name. I will double check that, but I'm pretty sure that is the, yes, it is Atomantic Field Generator,

so they get like an invulnerable save. So they are trekked, Nauts with an armor save and invulnerable save, which is pretty cool. As if they needed that, right? Oh, shit. Yeah, contemptor dreadnots, I like those quite a bit more than the boxnots, because they just seem more stylized. They seem like a giant fucking space marine.

Like, it looks like a space marine on crack. Yeah, yeah, the ratio of like, the kind of limb-to-body ratio is a lot better. Like, they look a lot more in proportion and a lot more like they could actually do what dreadnoughts are supposed to do. It doesn't look like it's as bad to be stuck in a contemptor as it is to be stuck in like a box knot. I don't know why, but the box not seems like, it seems like it, to me it looks like a prison for the corpse. This one actually kind of looks like, you know, like you seem a little more mobile. You've got arms. You've got legs to work.

And it's like, you know, you almost look sort of humanoid. you know, whereas the box is just like so clunky and awkward and yeah, the contemptor seems like a much better fate to end up. Yeah,

I just, if you're going to be in a, in a, like, heavily armored war machine for the rest of your not life, then at least make it a cool, stylish one

that's, you know, got a bit more armor and a bit more powerful and looks more like you looked when you were alive. Instead of a cardboard box with legs. With legs,

yeah. Did they ever make, like, when they're making contemptors, did they ever actually, like, craft them to look like the space marine that's inside of it? Like, make it look like his armor and how he, like, wore his shit? No, but that's only because the, like, the different dreadnoughts are, all of them are, like, reusable. So you have a guy put in the sarcophagus, and then the sarcophagus goes on the dreadnought, and then if something happens to the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the different dreadnorts are, and then if something happens to the, uh, the, the, the, uh, the, the occupant, then they just take the sarcophagus out and then stick another Marine in it. Right. They're not making a, they're not making a new contemptor for every dead space marine. It's like the guy inside dies and then, whoop, take him out, put a new battery in. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. It's, they're all like, dreadnoughts as a whole are like prized possessions and especially the rarer ones like the contemptors or Leviathens in 40K. They, they're like super, super valuable. You don't even deploy Leviathens unless things are looking really, bad because you don't want to lose it. Because once it's gone, it's gone. You can't make any more. They're one of the ones where you just can't produce anything like them now. Yeah, because you

said they had a dark age of technology stuff on them, so you literally can't rebuild that. Once that's gone, it is. Good luck. Once it's gone, it's gone. I think it might be the same for the custodies ones as well. So the custodies have got two of their own versions of dreadnoughts.

There's the Galatious, I think it's called. I just forget to pronounce it, because it's 40K, and all the names of, all the names are impossible, and then he got the tel-on. custodies have dreadnots? Yeah, they do. I didn't know that. That's fucking dope.

They can go in normal contemptors, but they do have their own, their own specialized dreadnoughts. So there's the, the one that's, the one is basically a glorified contemptor, but it's got a sword with a built-in heavy flamer and a storm shield. because why not?

Or it can take a massive guardian spear so you can have like the same guardian spear that the custodies have but dreadnought sized which is awesome. As if their spears weren't good numb just mega size it and put it on a dreadnought. Sure. Just upscale it.

It looks solid. It's so good. I think it also has a Las Canon instead of being a heavy boulter as well so it's like it's properly strong and the other is the Telemont Dreadnought which is not really I don't believe it's based on anything

specifically I think it's just its own unique thing which has been designed to look like some of the Terminator armour that the custodies have and the Telemon is like it's bigger than a contemptor by quite a bit I think it's in fact I'm just looking round it's taller than Leviathan as well

I think Shai just posted a couple pictures of it and oh my fucking God So yeah, those are the... Those are amazing pictures So those are of the Galatius Galatis Dreadnought Which, it's so cool It's so good

Actually having a held close combat weapon That's something that I really... I love converting stuff to do that Because the dreadnors, they all have like... Well, I say they all, most of them have the option to take close combat weapons But it's fists or claws And that's it.

You rarely get something that's actually holding a weapon The space walls have got a big axe and a shield on one of their venerable dreadnoughts, which is awesome. But like, for the most part, you're looking at a fist or a fist with a chainsawd on it or a fist with claws on it, and that's it. The custodies have two of the best kind of variants of dreadnought purely because they have a guardian spear and a sword and a shield. And they have the ridiculous telom on dreadnought as well, which is just a massive, like, a massive fire platform. gigantic shoulders, big missile launcher on top, it's so good. God damn. I, I, oh boy, contemptor dreadnots are so sick.

I guess dreadnuts in general are very sick, but God. The contempt is like, whilst Leviathan is my favorite, contempt is a definitely second favorite, because they've got the most variety, they've got a bunch of different weapon loadouts as well. And with the fact that, like, the tabletop side of things, they've just been expanded on so much, So you've got all the different, like each Legion has got a contemptor. So you can either have a generic contemptor, or you could have one that's a relic contemeter, or you can have one that looks like it belongs to the Ravenguards or the Ravenguards, Ravenguards, Ironhands, any of them, whatever you fancy,

there's something that's personalized for it. And, yeah, they've just got, they've got the best variety by far as well. Uh, shye wants to know what you think about the new boy redemptor? Well, I do, I also, I have to say, Redemptor is, Redemptor's up there kind of about with the Contemptor. Probably like, the Contemptor's just slightly ahead. I do love the Redemptor, but then I would say that because I do have 10 of them. So, but that's, that's mostly because I did a lot of altering and, like, gave them weird weapons or, I mean, I gave one of them an Imperial Knight chain sword for an arm. So, like, stuff like that to make them a bit more, just a bit ridiculous.

The Redemptor The Redemptor is a bit It's a bit Marmite for some Because it's because it's Yeah it is it's box 2.0 It's like a bit more articulated And it's a bit more developed Than the Box North

But it does have a gut So it's got like It's got a full-on gut Which is a beer belly It takes some getting used to And it's like Some people like it Some people aren't too sure

I wasn't too sure to start with but then I found a way to make it look more heavily armoured, which meant that the gut wasn't quite as bad. So that kind of heavily armoured section you see with the equilera on the front of it, you can actually fit that higher up so that it's just like, it's hard to tell on the picture because of the angle the photo has been taken at. But you can raise it up and you get two versions of it. So you can take the decoration off the other version.

and trim it down so it's half the size and actually make the front of it like super heavy armoured with just like the slit of the sarcophagus showing at the very top. And once I did that, I was like, that kind of makes it look less like a beer gut. It makes it look more like in proportion with itself.

The redempt is great because it's, it doesn't have anywhere near the options as the other dreadnoughts. So like with the box noughts, you've got multiple weapons options for each side. You can also fit them out to be more. Mortis dreadnoughts, so they've got like two of the same weapon on both arms. The Redemptor doesn't have that option, whereas like the Leviathan, the Contemptor, the Derridae, they all do.

The Redemptor has an onslaught Gatling Cannon, which is just a massive Gatling Cannon that can rip through infantry, or it has a plasma incinerator, which is good for anti-armour, and it's got a close combat fist. It does have storm bolters if you want them, or you can fit missile launches to it as well and it's got a miniature gatling cannon under the fist or a flame under the fist it's nowhere near as customizable

but it is strong and the weapons are powerful and it also has the added bonus of it can only be piloted by Primaris so Cole built it specifically as a as a like dreadnaught for

Primaris Marines who are brought to the edge of death in battle It has a slight downside though because the redemptor is it's absolutely hardcore it just burns out its pilots Oh it's another one of those Like the Leviathan

Yep Except the Leviathan can go quite a while Before it burns them out The redemptor has only been around For as long as Primarius Marines have been around And a good number of redemptors That have fought for a sustained period As I've written this down

because I love the wording of it. Redemptors that have fought for a sustained period will have already had their sarcophagi replaced because the original pilots have been burnt out by the machine's destructive prowess. Oh, wow. Jeez. So if you want to burn through a nearly dead spate,

or Primaris, you put him in a redemptor. Yeah, I'm assuming the redemptors are also just ungodly strong and that like the burnout of, of a former Primaris is more than worth the price of admission. Oh, definitely, yeah. It's totally worth it. You get your kind of super, super soldier for a little bit longer,

but the downside is that it does, invariably just kills them. It just absolutely burns them out because it's just, I think it's something to do with the advanced systems of it and the power of the weaponry and the kind of mental power, required to pilot it. And the way it links into the, I was going to say inhabitants, into the guy's, into the guy's brain, it means it's like more dexterous than you would think, and it's faster than you would think, but it all comes at a horrible price.

Which is just, again, it's like, it's just like a miniaturized version of 40K, because you've got, you've got the fact that a space marine can get nearly killed, put in a walking box, and made to fight for even longer. But then you step it up a notch by going, oh, and now the slightly better space marines can do the same thing, but it will kill them anyway because it's just that strong. It's just so harsh. But on the plus side, in 40K, there are a surplus of dead or nearly dead people to probably power this thing, right? Even if you're a primaris. Like, people are dying so often in 40K.

You know, it's like going down to the dollar store and picking up batteries. Oh yeah, you're not wanting for nearly dead Dead space marines really There's plenty In the 40K universe, man You could you could Door-dash some of those to your door Oh man

I don't have any batteries I'll just door-dash a nearly dead space marine They'll bring it over it's fine We'll be ready for the battle I love the idea of a like a chapter master sitting there And it's like we've got three empty redemptors Okay let me just let me just Let me just call the lads

they're planet aside right now I'm pretty sure we'll be able to fill that before the hour's over you know yeah we got this don't worry that's like that's like currency you could find in a 40K couch right like oh man there's three dead

there's three empty redemptors check under the couch I'm pretty sure we've got three bikes in there's going to be something lying around check under the cushion oh god it's so harsh it's so it's so grim dark That's what makes 40K so great, though, is, you know, it's grim dark.

Everything gets progressively worse. It's like even as the technology somehow miraculously got a bit better, the price is, oh, yeah, these dreadnoughts just burn out of the pilots real quick. It's like, oh, okay. For a minute there, I thought we're onto a winner, but apparently not. They were mostly dead. Now they're for sure dead dead dead, so. But hey, they went out in a blaze of glory, and now you get a really cool mini for it. That's the important bit.

Yeah. Oh, there is also a night lord. a night lord uh box nought there as well which is a great older model that's an old forge world model they don't make those anymore they used to make a uh a different dreadnought for each of the for each of the chaos chaos legions chaos war bands um but those those haven't been sold for ages but with them there is a a really cool variant of the box north which is a sonic dreadnought for the emperor's children which is kind of i mean it's pretty much the same as your normal dreadnought. It looks a little bit leaner, a bit meaner.

Like the waist is a bit higher up, but it's covered in sonic weaponry. So it's got a massive sonic blaster on one arm and speaker grills coming out of the top of it. They're in the shape of like kind of screaming mouths. It's hardcore. It's great. I would love to see the Night Lords one

because I mentioned we were reading the Night Lord trilogy and they literally have like a dreadnought fight. Like there's a, I think it's a Blood Angel dreadnought fights the night lord dreadnought and it's wild. And they both, well, they both kill each other. I don't know, no spoilers for the other books, but they both kill each other. And it's, it's, whew, I'm not exactly sure

how those two dreadnought fit in the corridors of that ship, though. I'm really not, because there's such beefy boys. It's just like, Jesus Christ, You wrecked the whole fucking ship. I do like that... I think there's... I'm trying to remember there's a... I think there's a Horacee...

A Horacee book where... Or is it a word bearer's book? There's one book that has got like a dreadnought fight and I'm pretty sure there's collateral damage. Like where Space Means fighting around them and they just crush a guy just because they're fighting and they just like move to the side

and yeah, they just... They just crush him against something and then just move on. don't even notice. It's like he's in the middle of firing his bolter and that's it. Someone stepped on him and then left. It's just and it's funny because in the book, whatever

his name is, Malcarian or Malcador or whatever the fucking dreadnought's name is, he refuses to be woken up. Like they tried to put him in a dreadnought and he's like, no, I don't want to go in. I might just be nearly dead, but no, I'm not waking up. Fuck you.

And I didn't realize that the pilot had a choice. I didn't realize that they were able to just be like, no, I won't go in that. You can't make me. And then just go back to sleep. Especially if it's like a chaos marine. We just don't want to.

We just don't want to do it. I don't want anything to do with this. Leave me alone. I don't put me in that thing. Something else with the hellbrute that I had noted down, but I got excited and missed. They don't just take the sarcophagus out of the hellbrut in between fights because the guy in

side is insane and we'll just try and kill everything. They also chain the empty hellbrut up in case part of the pilot's spirit is still in it. Just in case. Because it could be they take the sarcophagus out, and they take out the guy's piloting it, but the hellbrote still attacks something because enough of the pilot's psyche is left in it that it's still angry, which is hardcore. That is some serious chaos shit. That is... It's so good. That is... That is... Yeah, that's hardcore chaos. So they had literally chaining up an empty hellbrut. Yes. Yeah. Wow. That's... They'll chain it up just on the off chance. I'm assuming that's happened before and that's why they do it, right? Like, it's a thing that could actually... They're not just being too cautious. I'm assuming this has happened and the hellbrut has just been like, oh my God.

We took the sarcophagus out. Why is it still going? I think there's mention of it in one of the, it's either one of the codexes or like a white dwarf article or something. I forget which one, but, but yeah, it's, it's a risk. It's like an actual risk. So you've got to be, you've got to be super careful with your hellbrute to empty it out. Just take the guy out.

Really follow that thing out. Oh, that, oh God, that, that, that Nergel dreadnought, that death guard dreadnought is gross. That thing is disgusting. That's awful. I eat that. That's great artwork, but the, oh, the flesh, the flesh on the one side is just, it's really, really gross. You know what, there is actually, sorry, go on. Oh, I was going to say, on my feed, there was a guy that took,

I forget what the minis are called, but they were these death guards. And he was like, yeah, what would happen if a death guard took a bath and washed off all the, all the disgusting boils and he literally like shaved off all the boils and like gave regular flesh and it was the most cursed fucking thing ever. He made like green stuff hair

and he gave them like normal skin and they were like all cleaned and it was like oh my god this is so it's cursed I don't I didn't need to see washed Nergel boys you know what I am I'm searching for a page for you

for the like the worst miniature I've ever seen. It is, when I say the worst miniature, it's one of the best done things. Yeah. The curse Nergel clean ones were very well done, but it's an image I didn't know I didn't

need to see. Someone did it to a great demon. Oh no! There we go, the great clean one. Oh no! It's awful. I hate it. Oh, God. It's terrible. It's so smooth. It's so smooth. Warhammer Creaters

Stop making clean Nergel models. They're so cursed. It looks like just a fat, evil baby. It's terrible. It is just a fat. Oh, they did a different... Oh, what? Oh, no.

Oh, that's even worse than the baby one. Oh, it's way worse than the baby one. Oh, God. Oh, it's... Oh, no. Oh, the sag is just... It's just not great. Oh, no.

I don't understand how it's so much grosser than the actual great unclean one is what gets me. It's just objectively more disgusting and it shouldn't be. I think I'd be more comfortable seeing the actual great unclean one with like the mouth in the stomach and the green skin and the boils and... Ah, what's the from the back? The smooth back is just the worst. It's awful. The folds, the... Oh, God.

It's like he's wearing a skin coat It's awful It's almost like the less Like the smoother it gets The more like explicit it is And I don't understand how I just don't like it Oh it's really bad

That's not That's oh Also there's been a considerable amount of effort It's gone into smoothing out that ass as well Oh no Did we have to point it out though That That was an image I did not need this morning.

Someone's like, someone spent like a lavish amount of time and attention just on that area. Oh, yeah, can you imagine? It was like, oh, you know, the ass isn't quite well defined. Let me get some like putty in really shape and sculpted. Like, oh, four hours just sculpting the great unclean one's ass. I love the... What did you do today? It's like, oh yeah, I just, I went to the store, picked up things.

Oh yeah, I sculpted a fat and nergle. ass. All day. It took me six hours, but God, look at that ass. Oh, the alternative being the other half sticks their head around the door and they're like, are we still going out for dinner with, uh, out to dinner with my parents? I mean, you can go, but clearly, I've got something to do here. I'm doing God's work here.

You go, this desperately needs my attention. Come back in five hours and we'll talk. Oh, man. Great, great work, though, but oh. It's so well done is the thing. It's too well done. Yeah, it would be easier to deal with if it was badly done. You know?

This is a prime example of an abuse of power and talent. Like, this is the epitome of chaos, right? Why? It's an awful taste, but great execution. Yeah, this is Horace-level heresy right here, right? Horace was the best. He was the most talented. but why did you have to do what you did?

This is horrid shit. I love the idea of just one going like amazing. They show it like on a tabletop for the first time. And someone just goes, I am filled with respect for the workmanship, but please leave. Get out. Just get out.

Well, that's probably the strategy. You put it on the table and the other guy's like, I forfeit. This is ridiculous. I'm out. I'm just going to leave. I can't look at that anymore. I'm out.

fine, whatever. I'm not even going to pack up my army. You keep it. I just don't want to be here anymore. Yeah, you take all of it. This is 2,000 points of really well done tau, but I'm out. You take what you want. Never show your face here again.

So we've gotten just a smidge off top. Only a little bit. Yeah. Our listeners should be used to that by now. If anyone's like, how did this turn into a death card episode? Shut up, comments. This happens. every episode.

See, I was gonna go from the Nurgle Dreadnought and go that that is, like the Nurgle Hellbroot, and it is gross. There is another surprising source of grossness for Dreadnorts though. Because there is a word bearers, contemptor

which is... Which is real... Like, it is real warp-based, just nonsense going on. Oh, no. They have got, it's bad, isn't it? The teeth in the chest is...

Yeah, the horn coming out of his fore, like literally protruding through his skull. Yeah, it's really cool, but it's, I mean, it's word bearers, so it's, it's like, it's super grim. So it's, uh, it's, uh, like the word bearers that's, um, ended up being possessed and, and kind of became hybrids with, with demonic entities during the Horace the Galvorbach, they could transform in battle and they were faster and stronger and and one of them

got absolutely annihilated so like they were barely, barely alive and there was also a completely wrecked contempt to dreadnought nearby so they were put together and then there was a bit of a bit of chanting, a bit of

A bit of blood magic, a bit of, you know, warp trickery. And they created that, which is the Maragal tainted dreadnought. Oh, my God. Oh, God. I just noticed the teeth on the side of the thing. Yeah. It's so grim. It's a really cool model, but it's pretty awful. And it's definitely a 40K miniature for sure.

It's rough. It's something that only word bearers can take in Horacee. so it's like it's super super specific. If I remember correctly, I don't know whether they've changed the rules for it, but it's cool, but it just have a slight downside in that it hurts like everything around it,

if I remember right. Because it's got like a contemptor's reactor, but it's all like warp twisted, so there's this horrendous aura that just spills out from it and causes warp-based mayhem all around it all the time. It's also

It does have a plasma plasma cannon as well in there Which you can't really see Because a big fist has grown around it Oh yeah Oh is that an actual finger that's Oh god Yeah it's got three fingers on one side

Or at least it can take A plasma cannon That's a warp fire plasma cannon So it's still Everything about it is just It's just awful and warp based I just thought those were like bone claws, but then I looked again

at like the full size and I was like, oh God, those are fingers. Yeah, they've got fingernails. It's just no need. Yeah, that's just, oh boy. Hey, plenty of things to clean his fingernails out with those, should they ever get, you know, plenty of sharp edges to really clean

the blood out of your nails with that one. Oh, God, I hate it. It's so bad. It's a great model. It's a really cool idea, but it's word bearers, so it's all full of suffering and hatred. is the definition of cursed. Like, oh boy. Literal, figurative.

It is cursed in every sense of the word. It's awesome. I love it. It is, it is great for 40K. That is exactly what you want to see from a chaos faction. Also, the carvings. It's like it's a small thing compared to the teeth coming out of the chest and the horn out of the head and the actual fingers. But there's like little carvings.

of Colchisian rooms on the armour, which is... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really cool. Looks like it's just barely being held together by those incantation, like, scripts, little pieces of paper. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I haven't got one yet.

This will keep it together, I hope. Yet, one day, I'm going to grab one of them, because I'd need it. I just, I need it. Oh, yeah. Looks like 40K duct tape. It was the little squirrel. slap another scroll on there, it'll be fine.

He's only kind of insane. Slap another scroll on there. It'll hold it together, I swear. The flex tape of word-bearer technology. I love that. Lorgardt doing a commercial. That's a lot of damage. Boom!

Anyway, so dreadnots, huh? Fucking cool. We've pretty much covered all of them. There is one, well, There's two named dreadnoughts that we haven't mentioned. They have to be mentioned because they're important. We've mentioned Bjorn the fell handed, who is like an absolute legend dreadnought. He's been around literally since before the Horace heresy.

So, you know, he's clearly the best. But there is an honourable mention for just being an absolutely absurdly hard dreadnought, which is technically technically this is like a dreadnought chassis not the actual person inside so Bjorn the fell handed is like he's the occupant of the of the chassis that he's in

which is just a venerable dreadnought with a cool claw that's a little bit different but there is an actual chassis for a dreadnought which is just a box gnaught it's a castropherferum one like all the others

but it was made by the Primark Vulcan. And the actual chassis itself is called the Iron Dragon and it's the first ever ironclad Dreadnought, which is like a box gnaut but more heavily armored and with siege weaponry.

So stuff for close quarters, combat like Flamers, it's got siege drills and hammers and stuff, but he built the Iron Dragon ironclad Dreadnought Dreadnought Shassy which is believed by the Salamans at least to be the first

ironclad ever made. And the current occupant is a guy called Breaith Ashmantle. And that is a solid, solid dreadnought. I don't know whether it still holds up on the tabletop. But the last time I saw someone play Reath Ash Mandel in their Salamanders army, he killed three Chaos Knights. Whoa. He died.

It took him dying to kill the third one, but he took two on, in close combat and killed both of them. Now obviously there's some good roles going on there for Brayor. It's not like that's something could be pulled off every time. But... He has the potential to do it though? He has the potential to do it. He's a really cool, really, really cool dreadnought,

like special character for the salamanders that you can use as an HQ choice as well, if I remember right? So you can have him leading your army because it's just that much of a legend. Damn. That's a hell of a dreadnought. The one picture shy post of it, it doesn't look that great, but then again, the lighting is pretty terrible.

It's also an older sculpt. It's an old model at this point. It's been around for quite a while. It's kind of one of those ones where it has a lot of charm to it because it's a bit on the older side, but the story behind it is really cool. So it's a case of kind of like, a model could be a little bit better,

But on the other hand, it's like the first ever ironclad Dreadnought. So surely that's worth something, right? That's just the fact that the Salamanders have the first one and Vulcan built it. And it has a stat line that's different to other ironclads because Vulcan made it himself. So it's like, it's just a little bit special. So Eldar players would be able to relate to an old model that looks terrible. And it's like, uh, but hey, it's, uh, you know, it's a, it's a, It's a thing.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Raith Lords as well. I told you forgot about Wraitha Wars. That's not fair. Because Eldar do have dreadnors too. That's actually pretty cool. Yeah, they get some cool, like, powered by the dead models, the Eldar do.

So it's not quite the same. With the space marines, you've got like your half dead lad in there. With the orcs, you just drop a guy in and he pushes all the buttons. The Eldar, as his. typical for them. Their soul powers it and controls it, so there's no body. Instead, they've got their soul

stones. Oh, so is it the soul stone that's literally powering it? I think it's the soul stone combined with, it's the infinity circuit, if I remember the name of it properly. So, it's like, they power it not physically,

but like their spirit controls it, which is pretty solid. They don't even need the body in there. Oh, that is... So is it more like... So is it... It's not necessary, like, is it one Eldar control,

like one dead Eldar control? Or is it more like... Because, um... The Infinity Circuit is a lot of dead Eldar, right? Yes. Yeah, I think the Infinity Circuit is essentially all... All dead Eldar from one particular craft world, at least. I think the Infinity Circuits are like craft world specific.

and just all of the Eldar souls are in there and one is drawn out of the Infinity Circuit and it goes into the Wraithbone construct that is the Wraith Lord and controls it. I've just thought, what do you reckon, Shai, would a Wraith Knight be classed as a Dreadnought as well? Because a Wraith Knight's a weird one. Wraith Night is Peak Eldar

because a Wraith Knight has got a living pilot and a dead pilot. Oh. It's super specific, right? So a Wraith Knight is a really big kind of wraithlord-esque thing. It's sort of the like Walker, very similar style, a close combat weapon and a gun or two. But it's way, way bigger. But it has a living pilot and it has a dead pilot.

And the dead pilot is the living pilot's dead twin. Oh no! Oh no! It's so dark! It's so dark. It's really harsh. Oh, no. Oh, God.

It's really mean. It's really mean. That is horrible, man. Jesus. I guess if we have a dead pilot involved, it can count as a dreadnought. I guess it's a dreadnought. I guess it's a dreadnought then. I guess it's an offshoot of a dreadnought,

because there is a... Fuck, your dead twin. Oh, my God. That's why I said it was peak elder. It's like, peak suffering, you know. Holy shit. I guess that's one way to honor your dead twin is to still fight with it

and kill people with it. Sure. Jesus Christ, it's so dark. Oh, my God. I mean, it's like, it is quite a bit bigger. You know, it's a sizable, it's a sizable vehicle, but it's just the fact that it's not just one pilot alive, one pilot dead. It's the fact they had to be twins.

Twin. Like, it's twins every time. Every time you see a race night, it's like, oh dear. I know what happened there. You've suffered greatly. Yeah. Neither of you are having a great time with this, are you? It's not.

At least the orcs get to have fun in that it's just one or, Ork. Yeah. It seems like if you want to be in a dreadnought, the best one is to be an orc. Because at least you're not dead. Your twin brother's not dead. You're not getting fused into the dreadnought and with chaos warpship. You're just having a great time. As usual, it's the most fun to be an orc in 40s. Yeah, every time. Yep. There is, I reckon there's one more. There's one more dreadnought. Well, actually, there's loads of notable dreadnought. There's absolutely Tons of them. But when it comes to, I mean, if you're going to live up to,

going to live up to the name of the podcast, then you can't talk about Dreadnoughts without talking about murderfang the curse born. Which is a real name, an actual real name. Hang on, I'll get it. I'll get you the picture. Unless, and shy beats me to it.

Oh, that's fucking great murder. Murder Fang He's got a bit of a goofy face No, really He's got a goofy face Funny enough You can see You can easily tell that he's a space wolf

Treadnought Unfortunately, with the ice talons As always But they don't even know who he is So they basically found They just, the space wolves just found a dreadnought or at least something that looks like a dreadnought

wandering around on some planet somewhere and they were like I don't know who this is or what this is don't know what the deal is let's take it home it's called murderfang now they just found an abandoned dreadnought that was just rolling around

they were like aw that puppy's cute can we keep him Lehman can we keep him can we keep him oh I guess it's a lot of responsibility, you're going to have to feed it, and clean up after it, but I guess, I guess we can take it home. Pretty much, it's just, they don't even, like, they can't even put it to sleep.

It just lives in a prison until they need it, and then they just throw it at someone. Because it's got no, it's got no personality, it's got no, like, it doesn't talk or anything. It just murders. That's all it is. It's just murderfang the curse born. And every now and again, they're like, oh, okay, things are looking bad. let's throw murder fang at them. It's one of the weirdest,

like, just one of the weirdest things that Space Walls have got. Because it's just like, they just found a stray dreadnought. I mean, that's a great stray thing to find. Like, of all the things, you could just be like, hey, we found this thing that we,

finding a rogue dreadnought is pretty great. I mean, that's a pretty good thing. It's pretty cool. Hey, a free dreadnought and it just wants to murder shit? Okay. The thing is that they're like, they're pretty sure as a dreadnought, but even that is, it's like in the,

I think in the initial blurb when it's, when it's like introduced, it's called a metal-skinned creature, a metal-skilled, metal-skinned monster of the curse-born prophecy. And it says it resembles, a SpaceWools Dreadnought. I mean, it clearly is a dreadnought, but it's like even that, it makes it sound like they're not 100% sure. They're like, on some level, it's like,

pretty sure that's a dreadnought, right? Yeah, sure, let's take it home. It might be a dreadnought. I, well, yeah, sure. Oh, also, Shai said to the listeners, people are probably going to whine that we haven't talked about the dreadnought who knew Fulgroom, but he probably deserves his own episodes. So just, we know, chat, we know, we know, okay, we get it, it's cool, they'll get talked about later. Yeah, yeah, that, that, I mean, that does, that probably just deserve a certain episode. Yeah. Oh, God, dreadnots are, dreadnots are wild, dreadnots.

They're, they're the best. I hope you can now appreciate why I've got so fucking many of them. 32, you said, dreadnots? Yeah, it's free. It's pretty, it's pretty. Pretty silly, to be honest. The dreadnought master. Who better to do this episode than the person with a literal army of dreadnots surrounding him? I mean, they're just cool.

They're just really cool. There's so many different versions and loadouts and variants and, you know, they're all horrific in their own special way. All the dreadnots I've seen have been amazing. So do you just do like dreadnots or do you do wraithords too? because they're kind of dreadnoughty? Do you do the orc ones, or is it just like Imperium Dreadnought? I kind of, I sort of branched out

from Dreadnoughts into tanks and knights, so there's a, there's an Imperial Guard armoured company on the go at the moment where I'm aiming to, I reckon with what I've got, what I've got bland it should add up to about 6,000 points

in the end of just tanks. It's a lot of points. I mean, that's the, That was just the number of tanks that, like, it just kind of coincided with the number and variety of tanks that I wanted. And I was like, that's, that's too many points. There's no point doing that. And I was like, yeah, but then I'll have loads of tanks, so I should do it anyway. There are too many points to doing that, eh? Because it's 6,000 of them. It's too many points. Get it? Put the drum roll in, shy. Put the fucking drum roll in.

It's been nice. I'll, I'll see you later. I guess that probably is a solid time to take this thing home. Little, little longer than our average episode. Would that be the best way for a guest to end an episode, just walk out? Just like, I am so, I don't know how you deal with this fucking idiot bricky, because I'm out of here. You guys have taken up too much in my goddamn time.

I feel uncomfortable even thinking about joking about that. Oh, don't like it. I'm getting the great clean one shivers We've uh Definitely a solid time to wrap it up Thank you for listening to the podcast It has been fantastic If you want to support the podcast

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You've put the logo on the six. not the one. Exactly. It shouldn't be a thing, but for some reason, some places do it, including games workshop, will put logos on the one. Don't ever do that. Do it the right, do it this way. Yeah, because you should be happy to see your logo. Yeah. Also, it looks like you can buy them in amounts of 10, 25 and 50 dice. So there you go. 10 dice is 20 bucks, 25, 50 is 50 bucks. So yeah, that's, that's, wow, that's cool. God, I wish I had known at the beginning of the

episode. Oh, well, whatever. We'll talk about it in the next one. Um, and our amazing fill-in guest host for today was Karioth, who I think did a fantastic job filling in for Bricky, uh, did us a real big solid. Thank you so much. Where, where can we all find you if we want more Keriath goodness? Kiriath pretty much everywhere. I think Keriath or Krioth TV works for YouTube. And just carry off everywhere else, pretty much. Consistent branding. I love it. And you can find shy at quite shallow, pretty much everywhere.

On Twitch, it's actually the quiet shallow. I had a bit of a panic attack when she first changed it because I was like, oh my God, the quiet shy. It's redirecting me to nowhere. What happens? It's quite shallow pretty much everywhere. That's it. Dreadnots are cool.

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