Adeptus Ridiculous - Duperrault Family Massacre | Detective Ridiculous

Episode Date: September 3, 2022

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/40-year-old Arthur Duperrault was a successful contact lens optometrist. He and his family resided in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and he had long dreamed of taking his wife and children on a week-long family cruise from the Florida Keys to The Bahamas, which he had sailed during his World War II service, as opposed to the family facing another cold Wisconsin winter. For several years, the Duperraults had saved money for this opulent experience.By the summer of 1961, the Duperrault family had saved enough money to finance this cruise. The family arrived in Fort Lauderdale in early November, where they chartered the 60-foot (18 m) ketch the Bluebelle, stationed at the Bahia Mar Marina, for $515. Duperrault hired a well-known local yachtsman, 44-year-old Julian Harvey (with whom he was acquainted), to skipper the vessel for $100 per day. Harvey's sixth wife, 34-year-old former stewardess and aspiring writer Mary Dene Harvey (née Jordan), was also appointed to serve as a cook on the ketch. The Duperrault family boarded the Bluebelle at around midday on Wednesday, November 8, 1961.  The vessel was last seen leaving port early that afternoon.At approximately 12:35 p.m. on Monday, November 13, a crew member aboard the oil tanker Gulf Lion observed a man identified as Julian Harvey, waving frantically from a dinghy drifting in their direction and shouting, "Help! I have a dead baby on board!" . What happened on board of the Bluebelle? Learn on this episode of Adeptus Ridiculous.Support the show

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Patreon, but that's also Warhammer based stuff. And today we're talking about the only thing worse than Warhammer, real life. Yeah, we're talking, and it's a doozy today. Today is, uh, it's a bit of a doozy. All right, is it a dozy as in like it's going to be a long

topic or it's like this is just sad um i'm i don't think it's too terribly long but it's it's it's pretty sad it's pretty tragic uh it has uh i mean there's a happy ending to it sort of you know so you know i um i hope that you all had a fun and enjoyable time on our last episode with you know we had we had weird crypto Bonnie and Clyde, horrible TikTok rapping, and just a bad job of covering your tracks after stealing something. Because today we're getting back into some horribly, horribly depressing events. Because today we are covering what is known as the Dupro Family Massacre. Yo, Massacre.

Yo, Family Massacers? Yikes. Let's go. That's my favorite kind of tragedies when it's not just one but multiple. Yeah. Also, do you want to maybe tell the fans why you sound kind of funny? Oh, I sound kind of funny because I took a pseudo vacation to Hawaii. The whole reason I went was my dad was born and raised in Hawaii.

He passed away in 2020. and it took this long for us to finally be able to travel into Hawaii and do all the service stuff and have a little sort of memorial vacation thing. I'm like 99% sure I caught COVID there, so my voice is still a little raspy, but I'm fine. So if you hear, like, me, I was about to say if you hear me sucking on something, and I was just like, that's that. I was like, I don't know how it's a cough drop,

because throat's still a little raspy. But yeah, otherwise I'm totally fine. Like, I don't feel like ill, tired. I don't have a migraine. My vision ain't blurry. I just a little raspy, a little congested, you know. Cough, drop this dick down your throat. Damn!

Man, I already got COVID. You don't have to kill me a second time, dude. Jesus Christ. The funeral industry is like the most crooked fucking industry in the world. I hate them so much. To be fair, we didn't do like, uh, we didn't go through like, uh, we didn't go through, a funeral service. It was just, we, we, um, we, uh, we, uh, we hired like this, uh, this company that does like,

uh, they're like an outrigger canoe club. And so my family got into these big outrigger canoes and we paddled out into like the middle of the sea. They like did this big circle. So we left like this giant like lay of flowers in the ocean. And we laid my dad and my, uh, uncle, uh, out to rest in this. ring of flowers in the middle of the ocean on Kona. Okay, that's actually really fucking baller.

Hell yeah. That's super cool. Yeah. And does not sound like it is whatsoever going to be like the same tone this episode's about to become. Oh, no, we got to have some wholesome stuff before we get into the truly depraved stuff. Hell yeah. Though, I mean, the only thing depraved that happened was I had to squeeze my fat ass into the canoe. It was kind of slim, so, but that's the only depraved thing that happened.

Otherwise, gorgeous, beautiful, wonderful. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I'm very glad the burial was good. That sounds actually really awesome. Hell yeah. Despite the context.

Despite the COVID, too. All right, go ahead and, uh, all right, all right. There's, um, something massacre, family massacre. The Duporo family massacre. Dupro. Dupro. D-U-P-E-R-R-A-U-L-T. And even though this is the Dupro-F-R-Family Massacre, this story has to begin with a man named Julian Harvey.

Julian Harvey was born March 1st, 1917, and he had a little bit of a strange early life. While he was still an infant, his parents had... separated, so he never really knew his biological dad, never really had that sort of strong father figure. Only a few years after that separation, his mother, who was a chorus singer on Broadway, would remarry a very wealthy man that would absolutely spoil the living daylights out of Julian Harvey. Even bought him a literal sailboat for his tenth.

birthday, which would start a lifelong love of sailing in Julian Harvey. And that lifelong love of sailing will be a very important detail later in the story. So around the time of the Great Depression, the crash would hit his father's interests very hard. And it was because of this crash and this just tremendous loss of money that his mother's second marriage fell apart, just fell apart and it just didn't work. Julian, however, would be sent to live with his wealthy aunt and uncle in New York, so he was still pretty spoiled. He was still living the high life, despite the fact that the Great Depression had just crippled his parents financially and emotionally. Julian was only 13 at the time. So...

God, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Only 13. Good start. Good start. Only 13. He's spoiled. He's already seen two fathers. Great Depression, but hey, he's still being spoiled right, and he's still living the high life, you know? The high life.

The high life, yeah. Several sources claim that Julian held a few different jobs in the following years. Multiple sources say that he got a really into bodybuilding and fitness.

He built an absolutely just immaculate physique, and he maintained that physique throughout his life. And because he was in such good shape, and because he maintained those just Hollywood good looks, he landed a job as a model for the

John Roberts Powers Agency, which I guess back then that was a pretty big deal. Wait, wait, the John Roberts Powers Industry. Yeah, the John Roberts Powers Agency. Oh, agency. How many

plurals do they need? Wait, wait, wait. Is it like a, like a male modeling type thing, or? I think it's a everybody model type thing. Okay, so it's just models. It's just models. I think back then they were a pretty big deal.

I think they L plus ratio plus fell off though, so. No, don't. Don't. What? I'm pretty sure they did. I tried Googling them and I found nothing on them for like the last 40 years or something.

So they fell off. I just don't L plus Rick Shield. I hate Twitter. I hate Twitter. Anyway, according to a video by Dr. Todd Grand, he also worked briefly as a door-to-door salesperson, but he couldn't hold that job because he got way too nervous about talking. to people before knocking on the door. It should also be noted that apparently he was married in high school, but it only lasted a year before being annulled.

And according to his first wife, who said this in an online Times article, she said, I don't think I satisfied him. I don't think any woman could. He was very egotistical about himself, and he weight-lifted. a lot. So sort of shows you the kind of character Julian Harvey had. He was very into himself

and, you know. Well, he also grew up with a lot of money before his father lost it all, right? That is true. And even when his father lost all the money, he got sent to his wealthy, he got sent to his wealthy relatives. So, you know, he's always,

he's always had that sort of charmed, So he was born, not only was he born into money, instead of, you know, like making it his own way. He then again, doing bodybuilding is not necessarily easy at all. That does take a lot. But he's born into money and he's really fucking into himself. Yeah, he is very into himself. All right, all right. So in 1941, Julian would enlist in the Air Corps, which would go on to become the Air Force.

and he actually became a legit sort of distinguished combat veteran hero. He would see combat in World War II and the Korean War, and according to an article by Salon.com, he flew in over 30 combat missions as a bomber pilot and was decorated with a slew of medals, including the Distinguished Flying Cross, which I think is a pretty big deal as far as like aviation is concerned. Interesting.

He flew bombers in the war? He did. He was a bomber pilot. Over 30 combat missions, apparently. I wonder if he, hmm. I like my, I like my B24 Liberator. I like my B29 Super Fortress. And knowing our fan base, they like them too.

So I'm just curious what he flew. but it's fine. I know it doesn't matter but I'm curious. I'm actually not sure what he flew. I just knew that he was a bomber. Big bomb.

Big bomba. Bomba. Bomba. This new girl walks in high school with even bigger bombas. Even bigger bombas. Oh, no. Also, Julian remarried

a lot. Six total marriages, I think he had. He had two children with previous wives. one of those kids never found the name of, and he had a boy named Lance with his third wife. And speaking of his third wife,

and this would be in 1949, they were involved in a very suspicious car accident. So one night, Julian, his wife, and his mother-in-law are all driving home from the movies. As they were crossing over a bridge, the car skidded, fell off a bridge, and into the water. His wife and mother-in-law unfortunately did not survive the car crash and drowned in the car. Julian, however, somehow escaped the crash without so much as a scratch.

Ah, the mother-in-law and the wife? You said mother-in-law and the wife, right? Yeah, mother-in-law and the wife perished, drowned in the car. Hmm, I see, I see. Okay. We've got some suss. A little suss. Put the amogus emoji.

Yep. Julian claimed that in the heat of the moment, knowing the car was skidding and about to go over the bridge, flung the door open and dove out of the car to safety. Strange thing is, though, divers would investigate the car, you know, to try and get in there and find whatever evidence they could. and something they noticed is

all of the doors were locked and all of the windows except the driver's window were all rolled up. It should also be noted that Julian received a very handsome amount of money from an insurance policy

that his wife had and he was living with another woman mere months after his wife's death. When does they say when he, when this insurance policy was put to, uh, was, was, was activated? I, I, I, I, I don't remember when the insurance policy was activated. All right. But it is, it is still very, very suss that his wife dies. He gets this massive insurance policy. And not long after he's already living with another woman.

Yes. And even though it sounds like just the most clear-cut case of insurance fraud, they didn't have any hard evidence to charge him with. So the case was dropped. Yeah, you can't really... It's one of those things where it sounds super sus, but you don't really have much. Yep, yep. There was another strange accident that Julian was involved with around 9.000.

I think by this time he'd remarried another two times or something. Oh my God, oh my God. He remarries a lot. And by this point, he's been medically discharged from the military. Again, a video by Todd Grant said that he had been injured a few times in the service and was diagnosed with severe anxiety. So he's now married to his I think it's his fifth wife

It's hard to keep track So the two decide to buy a yacht Because of course Julian Harvey just Loves his sailing And within less than a year Julian had crashed that yacht Into the submerged wreckage of a World War I Battleship

Wait He crashed his yacht into a submerged how submerged was it? I mean, not that submerged apparently. Yeah, because he crashed on it so it must have still been kind of peeking out.

Weird thing is the wreckage was very clearly marked and there were even witnesses that claim they saw Julian move his yacht closer and closer to the wreckage. Some saying that he was deliberately

circling the wreckage several times and was trying to like read where the nearby warning buoys were and try to make it look like he was like oh what what's that is that a warning buoy um and despite all that julian still somehow receives the insurance claim on his yacht and was not found guilty of any sort of suspicious behavior or purposely trying to crash his yacht or commit insurance fraud Again. Again. Again. This time with property instead of people. Yes, this time with property instead of people. So, Julian takes the money that he got from the insurance claim on the yacht. And what does he do? He buys another yacht. Oh my God. And this yacht would also meet a rather questionable fate. So he was in this pretty ugly legal battle with his fifth wife.

She was divorcing and suing him on the grounds of mental cruelty. Like mental, like emotional abuse. Yeah, like mental and emotional trauma and stuff like that, yeah. Well, so far based on what I'm hearing about this guy that parses. Yeah, yeah, that tracks. Now, this might come as a bit of a shock to you, but somehow this new boat magically and just without warning, caught fire and burned down

when he took it out to sea one time. Natch. Okay. Go ahead. Doesn't insurance generally like replace the cost of the thing insured? What is he getting out of constantly buying new boats and then burning the boats? So depending on the insurance policy, you could actually get double your claim

depending on what kind of club yes because that's actually a very important little tidbit for later so he was doing the classic spend money on thing and then and then therefore get 50% back yes yeah he was

50% more okay okay also he needed the money because for legal fees so he wasn't trying to like make money off the boat he was just he was trying to pay the legal fees but yeah Naturally, he gets the insurance money on it.

It helps with the cost of the divorce, despite it looking very fraudulent. And, yeah, he successfully got the insurance money and got out of that sticky divorce. And guess what he does after that? What does he do after that? He buys another boat. Oh, my fucking God.

It buys another boat. But don't worry, nothing sus happens to this boat. Apparently this one, he just sells and he moves his ass to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where he would start making a living chartering boats for parties and special occasions. He would also meet and marry his sixth wife, Mary Dean. Mary Dean. Mary Dean. D-E-N-E.

Or Mary Den, Dean? D-N? I'm going to say Dean. Dean? Dean. Dean Kamen? Dean Kamen. What a segue. Wow. All right. His sixth fucking wife and his third fucking boat. Yeah. All right.

So with that, we're kind of caught up with where we need to be on Julian Harvey. And don't worry about him being a ridiculously awful person that loves his insurance fraud. because we'll get to that. So let's finally talk about the Dupro family a little bit, right? This is the Dupro family massacre. There isn't a whole lot of build-up and intrigue with the Duproes up until this point. The family consisted of the husband, Arthur, his wife, Jean, and their three children, Brian, age 14, Terry Joe, age 11, and I wonder if it's Rene or Renee?

R-E-N-E. Wait, I- Back up real quick. Did you say wife, Jean? Yeah, his wife, Jean. As in... Billy Jean is not my lover? She's just a girl who said that. I am the one.

The kid. Anyway, yeah. Wait, okay, I'm trying to put his sister. together. Wait, what was the name of the main guy? A full name of the main guy again. The yacht guy. Oh, the yacht guy?

That's Julian Harvey. Julian Harvey. Julian Harvey. And his sixth wife's name is what? Mary Dean? Oh, Dean. Mary Dean. Not Mary Jean.

Mary Dean. Oh, okay, that's where I got confused. So this, so this, the massacre family is totally unrelated to these two people, name-wise currently now. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. I think I got Gene and Dean confused. Gene, okay.

Yeah, yeah. All right, continue. But yeah, they're three children, Brian, Terry Joe, and Renee? R-E-N-E? Would you say that's Renee or, like, R-E-N-E? Uh, I don't know. You said, you said duv-de-v-v-e-duv-P-Roe. Dupe-Roe.

But the way you spell to it is fucking awful, so. That's how they spell it. Yeah, but it reeks of foreigner. Wow. We'll go with Renee. We'll go with Renee. Arthur had previously sailed in World War II, but at the time,

is a moderately successful optometrist in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Okay. And Green Bay, being the frozen tundra that is sometimes known to be, made Arthur really want to save up enough money so he could take his family someplace exotic, tropical, and just warm.

So Arthur would save up enough money, and plan to take his family to the Bahamas by way of a chartered boat out of you guessed it Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Oh no. Yeah, it was also sort of a warm-up test trip for the family because Arthur had often spoke of wanting to take the family on a months-long trip around the world in a sailboat.

But he wasn't really sure if the family was up to all of the time they'd have to spend at sea. He wasn't sure if they were ready for months and months of sailing. So this was kind of like a warm-up trip, see if they can handle life at sea, see if everybody's cool with it. On his yacht? Yeah, well, on a chartered yacht. On a chartered yacht.

Yeah, so they're going to take a test trip, see if this is something worth investigating. Hmm. So, it's now Wednesday, November 8th, 1961. and the whole DuPro family was set to board a chartered boat named the Bluebell with its captain Julian Harvey.

Oh, fuck. Julian Harvey's wife, Mary Dean, would also be joining the DuPros on this voyage to the Bahamas. She would be sort of helping to crew the ship, she'd make meals, and just kind of help tend

the DuPros with whatever little things they might have needed. And by all the The trip into the Bahamas was actually exactly what the Dupros were hoping for. All the sources I looked up said the trip was filled with snorkeling, souvenir shopping, collecting seashells on the beach, and just overall an ideal chartered vacation trip into the Bahamas. It was reported that when the Dupros were filling out the forms to return to the United States from the Bahamas,

Arthur specifically said that this had been a once-in-a-lifetime vacation, just so, so fulfilling, so fulfilling. So, let's... It adds hesitation, increases tension. A little bit. Let's do a quick little fast forward to, oh, about November 13th. There's an oil tanker called the Gulf Lion that makes an absolutely strong. startling discovery. They spot what appears to be a dingy in the ocean.

When they get a little closer, they see that this dingy has Julian Harvey on it, waving his arms to grab their attention and shouting, Help! I have a dead baby on board. It was the body of seven-year-old René DuParo. Now, as you might imagine, after being rescued, Julian Harvey was handed over to the Coast Guard in order to tell them

what the fuck happened to the Bluebell where was the Dupro family and of course where was his wife Mary Dean why is he why what the fuck happened why is it just you and the body of this dead girl Oh you okay I skipped a bit there I wasn't so wait

it's just him and the girl It's just him and the girl on the dingy The parents are not there The parents are not there None of the kids are there. His wife is not there. His sixth wife is not there. His sixth wife is nowhere to be found.

Boy. Boy. Boy. Boy. Boy. So what Julian Harvey told the Coast Guard was that a sudden squall had caused serious damage to the ship. The mast had snapped into all the rigging collapsed,

injuring his wife and the Dupro family. Apparently the mast had also penetrated through the ship. ship and cut the gas line and started this roaring fire on board the ship. After being unable to put out the fire or save anyone else on board, Julian was able to escape on the ship's dingy. He had seen Renee's body floating in the water, retrieved it, tried to revive her, but she had sadly already passed away. Julian said he kept her body on board the dingy out of respect for the deceased child and the Dupro family.

But one very important thing happened while Julian was giving his testimony to the Coast Guard. Amazing, incredible, impossible news had come out that 11-year-old Terry Joe had been rescued. She was alive and she was currently recovering. Okay. Upon hearing the news that Terry Joe was alive and was recovering, Julian Harvey was reported to have said, Oh my God, isn't that wonderful? Unsurprisingly, he also asked if he could be excused

from the Coast Guard's interrogation because he was feeling a little too tired and wanted to talk to his family. After his request was granted, Julian drove to a little motel called the Sandman Motel, paid in all cash for a room under the fake name of John Monroe and proceeded

to kill himself. Oh my God. He cut his thigh, ankle, and jugular vein in the bathroom of the motel and the maid would find his body a few hours later. He cut his femoral artery?

Yeah. Cut his thigh ankle and jugular. That shit's deep. The thigh one. That's, I mean... That's... Yeah, that's deep because the thigh is very... you know. All right. All right. All right.

When I used to be an EMT, I was no longer squeamish, but I've lost that ability. So let's move on. That's fair. There was a two-page suicide note that was left behind for one of his old buddies from the military. But it kind of just said that he wanted his son Lance to be taken care of and that he himself wanted to be buried at sea. That his buddy or? Well, Julian wanted his remains to be. buried at sea. Okay, and then to take

care of his buddy's son? No, his son Lance. His son Lance was I think he had that with his third wife. Oh, okay. Okay. He's a lot of wives to keep track of. He, six remarry's?

Anyway, on November 20th, Terry Joe had recovered enough that she could tell the Coast Guard and authorities what she remembered happening on the the night where her whole family tragically died. Terry Joe remembered that on the night of November 12th, she had retired to her cabin to sleep.

The rest of her family and the Harvys were still above on deck. Later that night, I think around 11-ish, she would be jolted awake by a thudding sound and the sound of her brother screaming for her father to help him. Terry Joe rushed above deck to see what had happened and found both her mother and her brother in a pool of blood. She didn't see her father, her sister Renee, or the Harvey's anywhere. So she scrambled towards the main deck,

and she finally did run into Julian Harvey. When she tried to ask him what happened, he shoved her back down below deck. Some sources say that he had like a pale, or a bucket and may have hit her with said pale or bucket. But then again, some sources say that he just shoved her. So he forces her back below deck while he's up to his suspicious shenanigans. But with nowhere else to go and she's kind of stuck below deck,

Terry Joe just kind of retreats back to her cabin where all she could do was lay in bed and I assume hope that this was all just a very, very bad dream. But at this point, the boat begins to visibly fill with water, and Terry Joe could smell the stench of oil. Strangely, Harvey does actually appear in her cabin with a rifle in his hands, and the two simply stare at each other before Harvey just up and leaves. He just leaves her there after awkwardly staring at each other. He probably thinks the ship's going down, and he's just like, nah. No need. Terry Joe, obviously mortified at this point, wasn't sure what to do.

But she knows she's got to do something because the water is now making her mattress float. How old is she again? Was like 11? She's 11, yeah. Right. Okay. So Terry Joe starts making her way sloshing and wading through at this point, waste high water to the main upper deck. when she got there she called out to Harvey asking if the ship was sinking

to which Harvey apparently matter-of-factly just responded with yeah god damn it this sounds like a dude who watches Andrew Tate just this fucking Sigma grind set type bullshit is like yeah yeah obviously hello idiot Harvey then shoved a rope holding a escape dingy into Terry Joe's hands and told her to hold onto it,

so it didn't float away before he could get onto it. Naturally, however, given the absolutely insane circumstances that Terry Joe was enduring, she let the rope slip through her fingers. Without much time to react, Julian Harvey's got to jump overboard to catch the dingy before it gets out of reach. And so now, poor little Terry Joe is left. all alone on a sinking ship. It is worth noting that Terry Joe was adamant

about the fact that when Julian Harvey left the ship, there was no fire, and the main mast was very much so still intact. Which also adds up because when Julian Harvey was rescued, nobody on that rescue ship noticed a fire in the distance, which would be pretty fucking hard to miss. Yes, it sounds like, It sounds like the classic sabotage, and it makes sense with an insurance fraud man. So anyway, as the blue bell is sinking, Terry Joe remembered that there was like this cork-type life raft.

It's this white sort of raft thing that's made out of cork. With what little time she had left, she threw the cork raft into the water and used it to safely escape the sink. blinking bluebell. Once on the raft, Terry Joe recalls not wanting to make a sound or cry out for help because she was so afraid that Julian would hear her. And given what she had just seen and witnessed on the boat, knew that if Julian heard her and knew where she was, chances are he would try to kill her. So she tried to remain as perfectly still and quiet as possible.

That, however, was only the beginning of Terry Joe's problems because she would now be adrift at sea in this cork raft with no food, no drinkable water, or any kind of shade. And from what I was looking up, temperatures at times in that area were reaching well over 100 degrees. And you really have to understand just, how small this sort of cork life raft was. Like, she had to sit up in this thing and have her legs swung over the top of it. So she was basically submerged up to her waist while she was floating in this little cork raft

thing. If you see a picture of it, it looks more like, just like, it's almost like it's got a ring of cork, and it's like just a net underneath it almost. a strange looking thing. It wasn't until November 16th. Three and a half days later. Oh, three and a half, wait, that she was found? Yeah, three and a half days later that her cork raft was spotted by a Greek freighter called

the Captain Theo. Oh, three and a half days in that heat and that sun. Yep. And there's actually a pretty famous picture, which is like, it is heartbreaking, tragic, and actually kind of haunting of what Terry Joe look like in this cork raft. I'm going to see if I can find it really quick. Normally, I, shy would provide this sort of thing, but she's not in the recording at the time. I did find it. Hang on. Hang on. Oh, I'm imagining some, some hard blisters and just, like, kind of that, that bubbly, leathery look. Well, it's, so this is what she looked like floating, like when they found her, just floating in the, and you can see the ocean has indeed. Oh, her fucking legs are thin.

Yeah. Whoa, that raft is small. That is a tiny little raft. Now, as you can see, it's only got, like, this net underneath it, so it's not. Not even like this full raft. It almost looks like something you would use to catch fish. Yikes. Oh, my God, her ankles are so fucking thin.

I mean, I know she's 11, but Jesus. Yeah. Three and a half days. Terry Joe's skin had been absolutely ravaged by the heat from the sun. Her feet were shriveled up from being in the salt water for so long, too. and the crew had to kind of nurse her with orange juice, drinking water, applying Vaseline to her dried up lips, and sponging her down with wet towels before she could very wearily and raspily

barely answered their questions about who she was, and that the boat she was on was called the Bluebell. Though the crew of the freighter did what they could, after Terry Joe answered their question, she still fell into sort of this comatose state shortly after her rescue. It should also be noted that that little corked raft that she was floating in, it literally disintegrated in the rescuer's hands minutes after they brought her on board. If she was out there much longer, that cork raft would have fallen apart

under her and yeah nothing nothing so it was pretty miraculous that she was found at pretty much the last possible moment she could have been found at

that reminds me a little bit like do you remember the story of 127 hours the guy who got stuck in the rock in the hiking canyon oh god I had never heard of that no oh it's like there's a guy who I'll make a quick but there's a guy who basically went hiking, it didn't tell anyone where he was going.

He fell down and he had to rock pin his arm. And he had to cut his arm off and anywhere to escape. Okay. There's a specific thing where he cut his arm off so late. He wrote a book, even took pictures of it. It's pretty fucking crazy. It's like a Janus Franco movie with it.

But anyway, the interesting thing about the rescue because after he cut his arm off, he hiked, I think. Like, he repelled like a hundred feet down one-handed and then hiked like eight miles. with the one arm but the idea he was so dehydrated that his blood was so thick and syrupy that if he had waited any longer

he would have most likely died from dehydration and lack of mobility but if he cut it any sooner his blood would have been so like much less thick and you probably would have died from blood loss so it was like this perfect window

of when he did it kind of makes me think like they got off the raft like literally minutes before yeah it was yeah it was like miraculous uh but the captain immediately signals the coast guard to let them know that they had picked up a little blonde girl named terry joe dupro that she was on the bluebell and that she was very clearly suffering the effects of exposure to the elements for the last nearly four days and it's this specific call from the from the, what was it, the captain

Theo, it was this call that would interrupt the interrogation of Julian Harvey and lead him to commit suicide. And given all of these just wild developments, authorities began to take a much

closer look into Julian Harvey's history in regards to insurance fraud and what he had been up to recently. Shock of all shocks, Julian Harvey was in pretty serious financial troubles. But more importantly, just recently, sometime before the charter, he had set up an insurance policy for his wife, Mary Dean. According to Wikipedia and at least one other article that I found, it was a double indemnity policy for $20,000, meaning that if Mary Dean's death had been deemed like an accident or something,

Julian Harvey would collect double the amount and actually walk away with $40,000. In the 60s. Yep. So authorities... Oh, go ahead. So you said, you said Gene. so his wife Mary Dean

yeah Mary Dean his wife yeah fucking God yeah God I'm confused again didn't you I did um but okay I'm thinking to myself what about the other family then well

so authorities piece together that Julian Harvey had every intention of killing his wife during the trip and using the due pro family as sort of witnesses to the fact that it had been accidental or she vanished or something like that just means to add a little more credibility to a story however it is believed that either the father the mother or somebody in the dupro must have seen julian harvey kill his wife or at least

him trying to the to like dispose of the body and in that moment he was like well shit they know killed her. So it's better if I just kill all the witnesses and cover my tracks. That sounds like him. That sounds like the guy who says is the boat sinking. He's like, yeah. Yeah? I guess I better just kill everyone. And

the only reason he didn't kill Terry Joe, or this is what they think, is because he probably believed that there was no possible way this little 11-year-old girl could survive the sinking ship. She probably drowned. It's all

possible that maybe he wanted to kill Terry Joe, but when she let go of the dingy rope, he couldn't kill her because he had to get the dingy. Otherwise, he'd go down with the ship, too, so he couldn't kill her. It was also decided that the reason he kept the body of Renee was again to try adding a sense of credibility to his story of a shipwreck, and he was like, oh, but I couldn't have done it. I tried to save the little girl. Why would I try to save little girl if I intends? Makes no sense. When it was all said and done, the Coast Guard concluded that Julian Harvey would have been charged

with the murders of all of the Dupro family, his wife, Mary Dean, and the attempted murder of Terry Joe. Or, well, he would have been charged if he, you know, didn't commit suicide, yeah. As for Terry Joe, you can imagine it took her. long time to come to terms with all of this. Her whole family brutally murdered. She never even saw what happened to her father or her sister. In an interview she gave on a, it was a video on a docks in motion channel. She claimed that after the event, she had a really hard time believing that her father was actually dead because she'd never seen his body. So sometimes she thought he would just show up again. Like, she would.

would just pick up and drive to a Florida beach with the hopes that she would find her dad. And it wasn't until she was 35 years old that she finally accepted that her father was in fact dead and gone. 35. It wasn't

until she was 35 that she really accepted it and stopped sort of searching for her dad. That's a rough age to 11. Like you're a little younger. You can kind of repress it a little bit more. It just a hit much you're older and you can kind of

understand the world better. Yep. Oof, that sucks. I believe it was also reported that she had kept the pajamas and gown that she was in that night because

she felt like it was one of those things that like connected her to her parents and so she never really wanted to let go of that. Yeah, once you lose the like the last remaining item of them. It's like the memory's gone. Yep.

She would also change her name to tear. T-E-R-E. I'm going to say tear, tear, tear. Tear sounds better. Any particular reason? In order to protect her privacy, she wasn't super comfortable talking about the tragedy and felt understandably awkward and uncomfortable in large crowds that knew about her. Ah, so I'm assuming this was probably a pretty big story at the time.

Yeah, I think it was. And when she returned to school, because she moved back to Green Bay with her aunt, uncle, and her cousins, to at least try and have somewhat of a normal life with her family, she also couldn't

really confide in her friends or her teachers because while they were all, they all knew what was going on, They were all told to pretend like nothing had happened. Just keep going like everything's normal. You don't want to traumatize this poor child anymore. So just pretend like nothing had happened.

She wouldn't talk about what happened that night publicly for the next 20 years. Since it happened or since 35? Since it happened. She wouldn't talk publicly about it for 20 years. So basically right after she came to grips with her dad's being gone is when she talked about it. Because 11, 25 is 36. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, when she was finally fully accepting of her father.

Yeah, that makes sense as to when she would finally start opening up and talking about it. Yeah. Eventually, she would talk to the media. I think in 1988, Oprah actually had her reunited with the rescuers that saved her. but even at that time she wasn't able to really fully talk about what had happened to her and what it was like to float on that cork raft

for almost four days it wasn't until 49 years after the tragedy that she had given her first televised interview to Matt Lour talking about just everything she speculated that Julian Harvey

probably wanted to kill his wife as quietly as possible, but Mary Dean probably struggled, fought him, caused a big scene, and that is what attracted the attention of the Dupro family. There was also a Coast Guard regulation change because of her rescue. So the cork raft that she was in, it's that white color, right?

That cork raft very, very easily blended in with the waves and the white caps in the ocean and it made it almost impossible for rescue planes or other ships

to see her because it just looks so much like a white cap from the distance. So the Coast Guard made it a regulation that those life rafts had to be a bright orange color so that in situations like this, boom, you can spot

him really easy, you know exactly what it is. Which, by the way, the only reason Terry's white cork raft was spotted was because a crewman on the captain Theo thought it looked really odd that there was an ocean white cap out there that just wasn't disappearing. It just kept on, you know, and that's why they found her. Wow, what a goddamn hero. Holy hell.

Yeah, he was just kind of zoning out, looking out in the ocean. She's like, why is that a white cap not disappearing? That's weird. And as they got closer, it's like, oh, shit, that's a person. It's like making a life raft blue. Yeah, it's very similar. Make that life raft blue, you know? Oh, man.

Oh, man. God, I'm trapped in this forest. I better put on my green camo outfit. Then they'll see me. Yeah, they'll totally see me in the camo. I should definitely move like a tree. Yeah. It's also worth noting that tear,

Tare actually felt like she had bonded with the sea. In an interview, she said that Julian Harvey had left her on the bluebell, thinking that the water and the sea would swallow her whole. But instead, her time adrift, she said it created this sort of like bonded connection between her and the water. So she actually started working in water resources and water regulation zoning, stating that she wanted to protect the water in the same way that the water had protected her.

Huh. Yep. Which I thought was kind of interesting because I would have figured, like, if that was me, I would never want to go on a boat again. I'd never want to see the ocean again. I would be, I would have aquaphobia. Yeah, it's either you develop a giant fear of it

or you create a connection with it. Like, it's one or the other. Tare also said in an interview with Matt Lora that she didn't want people to hear her story and go Oh gee, what a poor little girl But rather she wanted people to feel like Look at this woman, look at everything she went through She still survived, she still got on with her life

What a fucking champ She would marry a man named Ronald Fastbender And the two of them would have six kids three were with Terry and the other three were from I think a previous marriage with Ronald Fassbender Hmm

And I'm doing the timeline right now The kids are probably like Forties or something right now I'm not sure What it's like to be like a part Of this kind of like Story slash legend

I know right I don't imagine it's Don't imagine it's gray. I imagine you get tired of talking about it, but... Yeah, because people find out who you weren't. That's all they want to know. Yeah. And it's like, oh, man, but I...

But I've already told everything. And it was a really tragic and horrific event. And, oh, no. Also, I'm like... Just me. Yeah. But yeah, that's the Dupro family massacre. You know, it's not much of a detective thing

or our question. It's pretty fucking obvious. this dude is just a monster and wanted to keep doing insurance money things and got caught. Yeah, it's not much of a super mystery. I mean, I guess it's a mystery because he took it to the grave with him and he didn't. But it's pretty obvious. Wilds would he commit suicide, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like, that is the only interesting question I have, though,

is the fact that he did commit suicide. That's actually surprising to me. Normally people who are this fucking full of themselves would go on the run. They would never commit suicide because they see themselves too highly. I believe... I don't remember if it was the suicide note or not, where he just said he was like he was just tired of it and he was just exhausted, and he just felt like it was just time to go, I guess.

How old was he when he died? Hmm. How old was he when he died? I would... I gotta say like 50-ish. He must have been like his mid-50s. Mid-50s? Mid-50s, yeah.

Okay, all right. I can look at that. I can see that. Yeah, that's true. There's not really any sort of detective or lingering questions or lingering mysteries. This son of a bitch just murdered a whole family because his plot for insurance fraud went out the fucking window. Oh, shit, man. I've been trying to get into bodybuilding myself.

Now I need to own a yacht and then burn it to the ground. that's the real way to become a real Sigma male Sounds like that's The last thing you need to do You don't want to become like Julian Harvey Bricky

Bricky It's Bricky Are you destroying this podcast? Yeah Yeah Yeah Is this podcast drowning because of you

Bricky? Is this ship sinking Bricky? Yeah Yeah And What do you want to say something about it to my 308 rifle in my hands.

No. I think so. And I shut the fuck of it, hold this line. Oh, it slipped. Get the fuck out of here. I jump. Yep. I roll a 20 on dexterity.

All right, this is a little bit dark. Is this podcast over, Bricky? You know, this is a good episode. I was rather intrigued this one. I find the fascination of how it's going to end very well. I think you do a really good job. at building up the curiosity. That's cool.

Because you always give like, you always give just enough information, but never too much. And so it's kind of, I kind of enjoy how I, I make you reiterate things a decent amount, but I like to, uh,

I like to try to piece it together with time. Hell yeah. And this is a crazy story too. Yeah. This is a fucking nuts story with a nuts fucking, we got, we gotta, we gotta hit the,

the silver on my phone. fingers and boots on my feet. And then we got to hit the family massacre, you know. Of course. The duality of man. Duality of man, yeah. So you think that stealing $40 billion in crypto makes you a rapper? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You think, D.K., are we ending this episode? Yeah.