Adeptus Ridiculous - ELYSIAN DROP TROOPS: FEET FIRST INTO HELL! | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousThe Elysian Drop Troops are Imperial Gu...ard Regiments known for their rapid deployment capabilities, often deploying by rappelling or grav-chutes from Valkyrie Airborne Troop Carriers at high altitudes. These drop regiments are able to strike deep into enemy territory, specialising in ambushing the enemy or capturing important objectives, and can operate for extended periods of time without resupply. Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:19 to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky. And well, hello there, Keriath. But before we get into that, if you enjoy today's episode, then please consider supporting us over at patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous, where you can get access to the Discord.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Blupers, if they happen. The $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in just the crispiest HD format. and whoa, Bricky, I know you're just back, and I know you're, you know, a little loopy, but new poster! Are you ready? Hi, everybody. I've returned from Anime Expo, and I'm not sick yet, but I will be, and I've drank too much, and so I have a hangover voice.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Let's see this new poster. Wow. I think you are both going to love and hate it. Oh, that's awful. This is not a good gift. This is a bad gift. What? I think it's great. What is wrong with it? There's abs. There's big boba. There's a cool warpstone. She happens to be a rat lady. What's wrong with it? If I had more energy, I would curse your lineage.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I will riddle with holes, your cotton hide. I can't tell if it's the best one or the worst one so far. I don't know. It's the best one. I don't think it's either. However, I would absolutely say it trends towards the worst one. I don't know what you're talking about, dude. I think it's wonderful. I love it.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Also, just send me one of these in advance, Pricky. Like, don't even make me message you. Just send me one of these, like, right now. As soon as the print starts, just immediately print one out, sign it for me. And you don't have to sign it, but just, you don't have to sign it, but just, chip it off to me, you know. God damn you. So,
Starting point is 00:02:24 Karioth, what's up, buddy? What are you doing here today? Well, due to being heavily impacted, but I think the technical term is by the weeb. Bricky, obviously,
Starting point is 00:02:38 not feeling, I feel like that's going to get me in trouble. By the weeb. Is that going to get me in trouble? It's fine. This time round, not in the wall. Instead, instead, I approach from above, like a drop bear, or something, jumping from some sort of aircraft and falling to the ground gently, purposefully, using some sort of parachute maybe, or a grav chute. Are grav chute is real?
Starting point is 00:03:11 We're going, we're going to right deep into the, we're just starting it off right now, but like, for an ironic context, Yes, I've returned from Anime Expo and I was very busy. So we got Curath to help with this episode. And that's why he's here. Anyway, like a drop bear. Like a drop bear. I haven't heard drop bear in the longest time. I think all of our Australian listeners just collectively did the head slap thing
Starting point is 00:03:37 because they're just so sick and tired of the drop bear thing. I don't blame them one bit. The naked gun thing. So, so, D.K. What could possibly be dropping from the sky utilizing a parachute and or grav chute of sorts? I don't know, a paratrooper or a drop pod?
Starting point is 00:03:59 What a fantastic thought process. I mean, technically, technically not wrong. Technically, sort of. You close. Okay, pretty close. Do I keep guessing, or am I close enough that we're just going to do the episode?
Starting point is 00:04:16 I mean, I think you probably... Do we reckon that he'll have that level of in-depth knowledge of, say, guard regiments? Just an example. I don't think he has heard of this one, no. I don't think this is one that we have generally spoken of. He's heard of the new version of this guard regiment that they have been going with. But, yeah, I think Games Workshop has forgotten about it as well. So, you know, at this point, I think we give him a pass.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's fast. So check that off as a DK got it. Let's go. Yeah, sure, that counts. I can't remember whether we covered some of the specifics in the Guard Vehicles videos or not. So we'll give you a point for paratroopers. We're going to talk about the Elysian drop troops, which is an Imperial Guard regiment, and they are absolute legends.
Starting point is 00:05:10 They are quality. The fact that their range is no longer available is, frankly, some sort of, actual sin that they should be punished for, but... Do they even have a range? Yeah, they had Forge World range.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Really? Their stuff was Forge World. Of course it was Forge World. And now it doesn't exist. I, on Iraq, I don't think I've seen any of their miniatures, even their Forge World ones. I think that's because hardly anyone bought them. I think that's the main issue.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, God, that's disgusting. I mean, for an old, like, For an old unpainted mini, that is not the worst thing ever, right? Like, is it great? No. No. But it's serviceable. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:58 But I must admit, it's, I mean, honestly, I, here, if you should get this, like, it looks like a, like a 3D seller. It looks like like one of the side sellers. And that's the images that a lot of those third-party sellers like use for these things, you know? Yes. It does look 3D printed or something. Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Also, that one picture of, like, the actual, like, jump pack thing it's got on, I am a fan of big stupid jump packs. Oh, you're going to love this then. I am enjoying this already. Okay. All right, Kariath. Because I've understood,
Starting point is 00:06:39 I know of the Elysian drop troops. I know that people have a huge hard on for them. Kind of like how they have a huge hard on for like Kastrickon, just because they're like, are specialists guard troops in a way. It's like, ah, yeah, let's go. But I don't know much outside of just like the general equipment and gear. And that's why I was like, you know what, Bricky, not knowing much about a guard regiment, this, we got to fix this ASAP.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, no, that's fair. What we're going to do, we'll go through kind of the gear they use, where they're recruited from, then we'll move into how they use it. and we will follow that up with some excellent examples. So, funnily enough, you can probably guess that they come from the system of Elysia, because Elysia... No. Shockered about it. You ruined the podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:29 As soon as I said that, I was like, oh, no, Brick is going to be so mad at me for sarcastically doing that. He will kill us all straight in with a sarcasm. What do you expect from me? It's my air, man. It is my sustenely. I expect you to be better. Sarcasm is my lifeblood. Well, you know what now, you know how my parents feel.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Okay, okay. I expected more from you. Anyway, from Elysium. No, Elysia, because we can't do Elysium here. Oh, no, definitely not. Legally distinct, Elysium. Yeah, it's legally distinct, as is so much of 40K. So it's about 30 light years from Armageddon,
Starting point is 00:08:11 so there is an absolute hellhole. right on the doorstep, so that's fun. And the system is just... It's known for being rife with pirates, with, like, orc war bands and stuff, with Armageddon being relatively close. That is a... That is quite an issue.
Starting point is 00:08:28 They have... They have something of a focus on certain types of warfare, which will get into, after we've kind of gone through the gear that they use. And they pretty much all come from the Elysian... planetary defence force. So they do a full tour of duty in the PDF, and then once they've done that,
Starting point is 00:08:50 they go on to be trained in the art of being a bunch of nutters, frankly. They are very different to a lot of the other Imperial Guard regiments, because they have a fairly distinct lack of things like heavy armour, so like, you know, Rogal, not Rogal Dooms, Lehman Russe's, just tanks in general, They don't do a huge amount of that because of their style of warfare. Instead, they focus on, like, fast-moving vehicles. They focus on getting in as quickly as possible, hence the whole grav-shoot thing, which is, I think, my favourite version of, like,
Starting point is 00:09:32 I guess, like, sci-fi parachute. It's one of those things that's kind of, I would suggest, needlessly, needlessly complex for what it does. So pretty much all the least, yeah, What a picture. Oh, wow. Hell, yeah. Also, so...
Starting point is 00:09:49 That's why a bunch of... That's why they are, as you say, a bunch of nutters because they do things like that. Adrenaline junkies, no doubt. So, with these... What are the jump packs? Grave something or another? The grav chute.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Basically, parachute, but grab instead of para. It's literally how it's spelled. But it feels like it's just a... backpack that has a jump pack on it. And, like, can they use that for more than just, like, landing and parat gliding? Like, if they're on the ground with this thing, can they use that to just, like, fume, fume, and just, like, go, like, really quick and just, like, zoom into the battlefield? Or is it literally only for, like, the paratroop sci-fi landing aesthetic, and then they ditch
Starting point is 00:10:36 the backpack? How does that work? It's pretty much for the sci-fi aesthetic parachuting in. It can hover, so it can stay in place for a little while. It's about a minute that it can hover in place, but it can't do what like jump packs do. So when Spateman's got jump packs, they can jump all over the battlefield. They can go from being on the ground to, you know, however far away straight off the bat. With the Elysian drop troops, their gravs shoot, it gets them on the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And then once they're on the ground, they are on the ground. They are staying there from that point on. So they basically dive face first through a load of anti-air fire, fire up the Graveshoot at the last minute, land, and then hope that everything goes well, because they're down there now. They are down there and they're in the middle of the fight. So then I'm using them to zoom around the battlefield like a Gundam or something. No, that would be a little cool. Powerful. I will say there is a little bit of a, how did you put it?
Starting point is 00:11:43 put it, a contradiction in the lore online that I read for the, for the Elysians, which is, it's kind of wacky that they decide to, like, hey, yeah, when they land with their drop shoots, they actually hit the ground pretty hard because they're going at, like, terminal velocity or whatever. And because of that, like, they need to learn how to roll and make sure they get through that. But then they also can, like, hover for a minute. So, so why the hell they hitting the ground so hard? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:12 why are they slamming down at like, why are they doing the full superhero landing every time when they could probably get down a little bit more gently? Then again, I'm kind of, my kind of interpretation of that is just going off that picture. If we assume that the level of fire is that bad all the way down, do you want to hover? Do you want to stay in one place for like, you probably just want to keep moving 24-7, never stop? You've got to get down there. You stop for like 10 seconds. you're going to get shot to pieces.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I feel like that's probably the main reason for it. But then again, they also do a bit of covert stuff. They can drop behind enemy lines and stuff because the whole point is that they can just get in there nice and quick. They're not like weighed down by having a ton of slow marching infantry. They don't use things like Basilisk emplacements and stuff. They aren't being followed by columns of armour. So at the same time, they could maybe manage that.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I guess it depends mostly on the on the fight they're going into. That's true. I mean, for the most part, it's just enter the fray and enter the fray really fast. Yeah. Again, just keep moving.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Because if you stop, you're dead. It's so good. I was kind of expecting him to be like the guard version of the raptors with those, with those backpacks. I want him to be like guard raptors. Just,
Starting point is 00:13:34 shom shum, you know. Still cool. I still like them, but yeah. So yeah, they also have the drop canisters, as Shai's pointing out. So their helldivers-esque supply drops drop from orbit, and they refer to the canisters as coffins as their size and shape, allow them to be used as improvised funery caskets, which is great. Okay, all right, all right, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I mean, you got to put them somewhere. Why not put them in the equipment cabinet Stick him in the thing. Cofin, yeah. Stick him in the thing and then you can pick him up later. There's no more supplies in the drop pod, so stuff him in the crate.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, sure. Jim's head got, like, eaten by a Heldrake on the way down. So after we, get all the supplies out of here and after that, let's just put them in and we'll be done afterwards.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Oh, no, we were going to drop supplies, but I accidentally called in the 3080. No. Oh, no. Everybody's dead. Everybody's dead. There's gigantic explosions everywhere. Everywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Everywhere. Yeah, all of our, all of our Elysian drop troops are dead, but somehow the enemy remains unaffected, as if not targeted by it. Anyway, what's... Very specific. So very specific. What's... What else about the Elysian drop troopers?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Kereyoth? They've got quality leadership. I can tell you that. They have a policy of... leading from the front. So when it comes to company commanders and the like, they're not at the back
Starting point is 00:15:11 giving out orders, no, they are going phase first, into the enemy. They will drop with like special weapons and stuff. They will, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:20 the company commander, the actual, the actual leaders of these forces will be up front and getting in nice and close. That, I like that picture.
Starting point is 00:15:31 However, Oh, that's such a cool picture. They have really cool last guns. The Elis and Lasgun is it's like a bullpup style lasgun as opposed to the standard
Starting point is 00:15:42 which... Wait, what is the standard lasgun? Because that just looks like a lasgun to me. So, standard one's got the clip in front of the trigger. Yeah, a bullpup is where the magazine is placed behind the trigger, where a regular one is the magazine is placed in front of it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh. Like, you know how... I shouldn't... The description you have given me... You pay counterstrike, come on. Yeah. No, I haven't. Have you not?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Okay, fair. No, I hate military shooters. Okay, that's regular. See, magazine in front of the trigger. Oh, okay. As opposed to look for the back of the trigger. What difference does that make? It's more compact.
Starting point is 00:16:21 So because they are dropping down and because they have relatively limited space, because they've all got a pile into Valkyries and Vendettas. The Vendetta is basically the Valkyrie, but it's got extra Las Guns slash Las Canons on it because, of course, it has. they've got to have everything nice and compact. So the grav shoots kind of fold away, the gun is smaller. Oh, okay. I guess with the pictures, I couldn't really tell, like, the scale, but yeah, I guess the bullpup one would be a little more compact and a little easier to, like, if you need to stow like 9,000 of them, you'd rather have the bullpup one, right?
Starting point is 00:16:59 More so that, like, because you have the magazine loading from the back, that's also technically the stock, the weapon is just shorter in, general. So because it's shorter, you can like move it around quicker. Like it's, you can like, you know, corners. It's that kind of stuff. Yeah. I know literally nothing about guns. This was one of those things where I thought you would know at least this. Like, don't get me wrong, we're both from California. We don't know anything about guns. I have literally never held a gun in my life. I own a bull pop gun. I own a, I own a bullpup shotgun. Like, it's, It's not, you know, it's... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:39 If anything, I would have expected this. But all right, it's fine. It's fine. We accept the fruits of our labor. Yeah, and now anybody, any listener that was like, what the is a bullpup? They also know. See, look at me. I'm doing God's work.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You're welcome, listeners. This is a Warhammer podcast. Everyone already loves their firearms and their types of guns. They already know. And they already know about the most famous 40K bullpup, which was, as a Osreoles old gun. God. What was it called?
Starting point is 00:18:11 Lines Rath? Which, for some reason, just ended up being an absolute mess of a weapon. And I can't really criticise about lack of knowledge when it comes to guns, because obviously being from the UK, there are no guns here. We threw them all in the sea. Even the military goes in armed only with pool cues stolen from pubs. We have nothing. Oh, God, you had to put a picture in.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I had to put a picture in. I don't know. That looks kind of cool, though. Oh, God. Whoa. Oh, oh, no. What is going on with the back? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Right. What do you mean? It was kind of cool. I posted, should I post the same image as I did? It's just larger. Yeah, but once it got larger, you get, like, the, like, the designs on it look cool. The red looks great. And, like, I guess I wasn't really paying attention to the, whatever the fuck is going on behind the, in the back there with the bullpup or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:03 The stuff in the magazine can't actually exit. As I put it in a video once. the pointy end? Yeah. The bit that you point towards people to kill them. How does it get up there? Does it teleport? Is it magic?
Starting point is 00:19:14 What happens? Okay. I'm sorry, but like this is just, this is, I saw the first image, and then someone made, posted this,
Starting point is 00:19:22 and, and it, it looks like a big old dick. That's, it looks like a big old dick gun. So they, the new, more sensible.
Starting point is 00:19:36 They, change the lines rather than the new asriel, and it loads from the side now, which is much nicer. I love the wing aesthetic in the red, though, and the skull. That's cool. Stylistically, cool. If you just cut off the back end of it, I'd be okay with it. Cut that back part off. If I just cover that part with my hand, it's like, oh, hey, that's a pretty cool looking gun, right?
Starting point is 00:20:00 And then I move my hand, and it's like, uh-oh, spigettios. A waiter, it's time for your daily dose of Iron Warriors art. You know what? I never get tired of how much you use this picture because it's so sick. So if you were going to spam a picture, I'm glad it's this one because God, it's so good. It's so funny. It's just every time we talk about cursed guns in 40K, I will always repost the picture of the Iron Warriors art because it's so good. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Fair enough. Anyway, Bull pup las guns. Very compact. Very, very easily, like, good to have a smaller gun when you're dropping from the sky. Sure. You don't want a big, hefty gun when you're dropping. You don't want to trip over it whilst you do any cool forward rolls. You hit the floor at insane speeds.
Starting point is 00:20:53 There's also ones with underslung, underslung like additions to it as well. So a little bit of, like, grenade launcher on the bottom there, which, if anything is even cooler. the way they approach the battlefield, as I mentioned, they've got the vendetta, they also use Valkyries as well, but they do need something to transport vehicles, which is where the SkyTalon comes in, which is basically a Valkyrie, but the transport compartment's been taken off, and instead it's got four lifter arms that just clamp onto vehicles and hold on to them, which... That thing looks so weird without the transport thing in it. That thing just looks so odd. It's cool, but like, yeah, it looks like emaciated. I don't know how I was to put like a big chunk of it. It's just gone, so it looks really flimsy. It looks like a Valkyrie that has definitely been underfed for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah, yeah. I know it's, I'm sure it is like a real thing because, you know, I just posted a picture of one. But like, yeah, it's, you know, it's so weird looking. It reminds me, occasionally they, they have. had these in the old Clone Wars games for Star Wars, and they would drop like those six-legged kind of like beetle-looking walkers from the clone troopers, and I always remembered those because it was like the gunships, but they looked all hollowed out, and I'm like, oh, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:22:18 When it's carrying something, it looks normal, but when it's dropped, it's like, oh, what the heck? Yeah, what happened to you? Yeah. So they have those two to carry in the troops and any vehicles that they take with them, which we'll get to in a moment. and because everything has to be on a theme, obviously if we're doing airborne assaults,
Starting point is 00:22:36 then you need something to protect those carriers as they go in. So they also make use of the vulture gunship, which is amazing. I love that. If I turn around, there's one on my shelf behind me and I never get bored of looking at it because it's just awesome. It's quality.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It's so good. Giant, terrible. The turbine behind the drivers never gets old. It looks so cool, though. Oh, my God. Why don't they, is this a pretty popular gunship? Well, it's Forge World again. So it's legends.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So the rules never get updated. Damn it. Why is everything cool in Forge World? Here's the rule. If you look at it, you go, that's badass. What does that do? The chances are, it's from Forge World, and it's terrible on the table table table.
Starting point is 00:23:30 and you can't eat of tournaments. That's nine times out of ten just how that works, I'm afraid, especially with guard vehicles. Guard vehicles especially, terrible for that, where you see something you go, that is incredible, and then you find out that it costs 150 pounds, and it's borderline unusable,
Starting point is 00:23:46 and also is probably a nightmare to put together, like the Vulture was, just throwing that out there. Terrible model to put together. But, oh God, remember when they did tests of 40K air vehicles and the Valkyrie has a negative lift? Well...
Starting point is 00:24:02 Wait, does that mean it's too heavy or what? I think it just permanently goes down. Like, it just can't... It can't function. Yeah. I mean, looking at it, how would it? I mean, yeah, it's... I mean, the Valkyrie is, in fact, a very dumb...
Starting point is 00:24:18 A very dumb vehicle, but it's fun, so... Yeah, and it looks cool. Basically, a box on wings, like all other Imperial aircraft. Let's not talk shit on box on wings, all right? I love my box on wings. Half a 40K is box on wings. Which box on wings? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:36 That describes all of them. I was going to say, in the Imperium, your airplanes are boxes on wings. Your tanks are boxes on treads. Your dreadnots are just dead boxes. Everything is boxes, right? It's the way to go. Sometimes you just got to take a box, put it on some form of locomotion, and then throw it into battle. That's the attitude they had.
Starting point is 00:25:01 When Arkin Land designed the Land Raider or whatever, I know he didn't design it, you found the STC, whatever. Land Raider! It's just worth bringing him up for that. Hell yeah. Every time. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So, outside of those, the obvious... I actually have like three Valkyries. I love the look of the Valkyrie plane. It might be like one of my favorite guard vehicles. It just, I don't know, it just looks so menacing the way it kind of aims itself downwards and all that, has.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, it does. But I really, it's fun too because for the most part, it was just like, what do I use the Valky for? Well, you fly it up into your opponent's face, drop a bunch of crap from it, and then blow everyone to bits, and the Valkyrie will fly away and do something else later. And it's like, ah,
Starting point is 00:25:45 my Valkyrie. Doing God's work. It's a great vehicle. I love them. It's one of those designs as well that just doesn't really get old, even though it is basically a box with wings. It's just got that sort of cool factor about it.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So with the sky talon, the skeletal one that drops our vehicles, what it tends to drop off that is the Taurus and the Taurus Venetor. Now, Elisians don't go like heavy on tanks and stuff because of needing to get around nice and quick. So they have these cool but slightly weird, weird buggies. that have a gunner on top. There's a four-wheel and a six-wheel variant. The ones that Shire posted are new ones. You can actually get them in plastic now.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But you can get them in plastic, but not for the Imperial Guard. You get them in plastic for the Palatine... Palatine enforcers for Necremunda. They just brought back that vehicle and went, it's for a different system now. Off you go. So, yeah, there's the six-wheeled and the four-wheeled variant, and the SkyTaltern comes in, drops down one of those,
Starting point is 00:27:00 onto the ground, and then it speeds through the battlefield, melting, shooting, lasgunning people. I mean, that's a cool attack, buggy. I like that quite a bit. Although, as soon as I saw it, I don't know if it's just because Shai had just mentioned orc planes working fine despite, you know, their wacky design because the wall.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I was like, these would make great, like if you were going to, if you're an ork player and you wanted to kit bash some kind of vehicle, this seems like it'd be a great base. to start with and just like ruin it and like orcify the hell out of it. That seems like a great base to start with. Yeah, definitely. I mean, they've got like, they've got quite like Mad Max sort of vibes to them,
Starting point is 00:27:40 which is always a good starting point for any orc vehicle. Insert, nod, Raider, Commandion and Conquer 3, my beloved's. I was going to say, that's a cool looking thing. I was like, I don't know what it's from because I haven't played Command and Conquer, but it looks great. It just makes me think of that kind of stuff. It is very Mad Maxy though. You're all right.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Did any of you see Furiosa? Not yet. I watched it two days ago. It is Nothing will ever beat Mad Max Free Road Because it's like the best movie ever made. It was really, really good. Oh!
Starting point is 00:28:17 I liked it a lot. Okay. I had heard a lot of people say that it was kind of mid, but I was like, is it mid because you're comparing it to Mad Max? Or is it like mid because you're like, you know? So, good to hear. I very much liked it. I thought it was very good.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And it's like, yeah, you're not going to beat Fury Road, but it's really good. And yeah, there's a couple like buggies like that. And, um, in the, uh, did you get a giggle when they were like, that little one of those little sub factions. It's called the mortifiers. And I was like, uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I, I really, I, I, really. I liked that they actually did something with, this is going to show a level of obsession that's probably not healthy, but they were going to put flyers in Fury Road, but then they didn't feel like it fit. And so they ditch that, and then they ended up reusing it for Furiosa. And so having, like, the octobos with this big, like,
Starting point is 00:29:10 dude, the giant octopus fucking, like, plane. So cool. It was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I loved it. Lovet it so much. Just watch the movie, dude. Well, I will. it when it comes out. I don't go to movie
Starting point is 00:29:25 theater as much anymore. Oh, it's out. I think you're streaming now, yeah. Yeah. Is it really? Yeah, I bought it on YouTube and just like watched it. Oh, okay. Well, I will I will do that in the relative near future. By the time this episode airs, I'll probably have watched it. Very, very fun to film. But yeah, the buggies definitely do
Starting point is 00:29:45 have that kind of Mad Max vibe. Not as decrepit, but you could easily make it that way. You really orcify it, like you said. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 100%. So the turrets on the back of them, you've got things like auto cannons, heavy bolters, grenade launchers, heavy flamers, the ones that the Palo-Light enforcers have have got like concussion cannons on them because they're more like sort of crowd-controlly. But again, they just dropped down, chucked on the floor and then they go speeding around kind of harrying the
Starting point is 00:30:17 flanks and encircling and they're really cool. They're just awesome vehicles. And again, I was really sad when I went to look for them a while ago and realized that they stopped making them. I don't know how many years ago, because they're classic. But they are now in plastic. So that's like a rare happy ending for something that disappears off Fortwell for years at a time to suddenly come back is kind of rare. But we did get it. Life in plastic is fantastic. That is...
Starting point is 00:30:52 Shut up. I feel so honest. What did I do? I'm just saying, it is fantastic. Mine is two. I don't think you can brush its hair, though. The other thing that they use, moving on.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They also have a good line in sentinels. Again, you need something fast maneuverable, so they have their own sentinel, which is the drop sentinel, which is basically a sentinel, but it has its own grav-shoot system, so it gets dumped down, and then it lands and starts
Starting point is 00:31:26 meltering people real good. It's kind of stripped down. It's not as tall. It's not got quite as much armour and stuff. It looks awesome. And they have a support Sentinel, which is basically just a Sentinel, but with a heavy weapon attached.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Because if you haven't got a bunch of tanks, you still need to carry, like, heavy weaponry here and there. So that is their, like, that's kind of their heavy version. And yes, I do have this. The chemical assault one. Hang on, let me find it. I do love a good chicken walker, though. I love me.
Starting point is 00:32:02 What the fuck is that? The chicken walker, as you said. I love it. I love a good chicken walker. Yeah, it's a classic chemical assault pattern sentinel. Oh, hell yeah. Then they have chemical rockets attached to them that like fire, flesh melting, skin-burning chemicals out of them. As you do in 40K, if you're a chemical assault, whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, it looks great. It's very normal arsenal for the armies of... Well, not even the armies of... For anything. Imperium loyalists probably have chemical assault weapons, too, right? It's a normal 40K thing to have weaponry that melts your skin. I mean, it's for... You've got to have...
Starting point is 00:32:50 At least one of that in every army. surely. At least one thing that is a borderline of war crime, that's just standard fair, is it? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not talk about... Yeah, but I say, let's not talk borderline here. We need full throttle war crimes.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Brother, it's only a war crime if you lose. I'm going to take that, I'm going to take that border a line and then skip rope with it. We are so past the... You can't even see the line. The line is a dot on the horizon. Oh, no. What?
Starting point is 00:33:22 that from? I can't remember what that. Okay. Oh, you know what that's from? You got the reference? I got the reference. I just can't remember what it's... It's from an episode of Friends where Chandler Cheats on... Where Chandler Cheats on Joey's girlfriend. Yep, yep. Yeah, okay. I can now hear it. Oh, my God. I can now hear it. Yeah. Yes. Curia. Have you... It's so nice to have someone that is, that is my age group.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Unlike this... this child, Bricky. I can't believe I'm here helping lead a geriatric home. Whoa. He doesn't, he hasn't watched friends, Kariath. Can you believe that? I was very heavily recommended to watch Nathan for you over this weekend. So that's going to be my, that's going to be my next, well, if it's good, fixation. What the hell is Nathan for you?
Starting point is 00:34:20 you. It's a TV show. What do you want me to describe it? Is it really? Yeah, Kariath, what's the next thing? Okay. Also, they use things like Century Guns and the Cyclops Demolition Vehicle. Chuck that in quickly as well. Because
Starting point is 00:34:36 any excuse to mention the Cyclops, because obviously the Cyclops is class, and they also drop these these like the tarantula turrets they're called, they also drop those down. Because they're lightweight,
Starting point is 00:34:50 and they just become a little emplacement, and I just wanted to talk about the Cyclops, because it's so cute, it's so cute, and it's so cool. And you can fit them in the, in the, uh, in the Valkyrie, and then chuck it out of the back, go and explode someone. I, I love the Cyclops Demolition Vehicle. It was, it's utilized very often,
Starting point is 00:35:09 or it was utilized very often, and you would just roll it up to something. It's just a big suicide bomb. It's all it really is. Like, I love that image so much. Yeah. I love, like, yeah. I was just the little one coming in.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Now, even I've seen that way. Get in there, deploy Mini Me. And then MiniMee drives up at 30 miles an hour and just blows up. It's great. Mm-hmm. I absolutely love that thing. It was actually utilized a lot in the tabletop because they would just, like, put it in corners to the die deep striking crap.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But sometimes they don't need it anymore. They're just rolled up. I'm like, all right, go boom. It's lovely. Got to be one of the best pictures. Ever? Come out of Games Workshop that. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I really like the tarantula century. It's actually kind of sad how crappy they are. And also the fact that that and the Cyclops Demolition Vehicle will not last much longer. No, they're going to be gone. Like so much of the stuff that Fortune World makes, it's just a slow kind of things just drop out of the ranges constantly. And I can't see them being around all that much longer.
Starting point is 00:36:18 It's one of those things where they don't give them, They don't give them rules so people don't play them especially not competitive because you can't use legend stuff in competitive and then because people don't play them they don't buy them
Starting point is 00:36:32 and so they stop making them but it's like if you if you gave them rules and supported them more people would buy the thing rather than no one buying the thing but that's probably an entire you're talking crazy Kiria you're talking crazy brother
Starting point is 00:36:48 I don't know that doesn't Old men shout at Clouds episode right there. Yeah, yeah, we'll do the GW business practice episode and we'll just like violently cry. Violently, yeah, yeah. Isn't GW's business practice like, oh no, we need more money. What do we do? Release more ultramarines. Or I guess just space marines in general, right?
Starting point is 00:37:12 It's not, it's not like wrong, but it's a bit incomplete of a definition. but I get what you get in that. For the most part, it's just like, why did you create these plastic heresy era tanks and things and then give them a couple rules and then remove them? Like in, in, it's wild. Anyway. Because it says heresy on the box and people will get confused.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I can't. They won't know that you can use them in two things if it doesn't say the thing on the box or something. Point points at chaos demons. Yeah. Yeah, let's not, no, don't mention that because they'll take them out of a system. An AOS doesn't need to lose demons because they still are kind of integral to a lot of the factions. Don't point it out.
Starting point is 00:37:58 If we don't mention it, they won't notice. Quick. Okay, so you've got a rough idea, right, how the a lesions operate. They fly in, they jump out, they drop a bunch of vehicles. The vehicles carry the flanks. They've got some cool sentinels. And they also have excellent escort craft in the form of the vultures. once they're on the ground, it's a case of hoping that initial strike really works super well to demoralise and or destroy the enemy,
Starting point is 00:38:24 because prolonged fighting is not necessarily great, because they don't have that sort of heavy support element that a lot of the other Imperial Guard regiments have. So, why don't we go through some examples of the Elysian drop troops in action with some stuff what Shai has collected for? for us to take a look at. Terrible intro. I don't know. That was fine. That was about on par for us. It's shy time.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Whoa. Currioth, I must admit, you're, it's not like you, you don't have an accent, but be hearing like stuff, what shy, like the what thing.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I wasn't going to say it. I'm glad you brought it. Okay, I always hear it because I always hear like the orcs say that. It's like, like, all them gets what them humans, or the humis.
Starting point is 00:39:15 do it and it's like, ah, it's all the thing. Anyway. That's fair. It's totally fair. So here's what's, I'm going to read this first mini paragraph and D.K. Read the big one. Okay. Welcome to Shai's segment. Put in butt plugs because we're going to start shitting ourselves. We realize it's 20,000 characters long. First of all, we obviously, we obviously, we need to include this into the episode. You see, Elysians have more in common with hell divers than very quickly fall. off. They do have a literal regiment called hell divers, mostly known for dying a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Well, they're our hell divers. Thirteenth, Elysian hell divers have gained something of a heroic reputation amongst the regiments of the spinward front. Emerged from seemingly impossible odds on multiple occasions, dubbed the hell divers for their tendency to descend upon the enemy from above and leave destruction in their wake. The Elysian 13 are the subject of overworked. The Elysian 13 are the subject of overblown tails and flights of fancy amongst the masses. The Departmento Mutatorium has only encouraged this tendency, reporting whenever possible the victories of the 13th publicly, along with those of the other Imperial Guard regiments
Starting point is 00:40:29 whose exploits will bolster morale. The truth is, as always, somewhere between Emperor's cheeks, Colonel Johann von Meir, the regiment's commander, is daring, optimistic, courageous, and more than a little vanglorious. Her fervor for the glory of battle has seen the Elysian 13th deployed to the deadliest of conflicts and the most casualties over the years. And only, oh, nope, I've fucked that up, the deadliest kind of the most challenging of missions succeeding at any cost and to great acclaim. The hell divers have suffered great casualties over the year and only a handful of companies of their original 10,000 warriors still remain, though each is a veteran of many battles. As they say, most of you may die.
Starting point is 00:41:15 a sacrifice I am willing to make. You know, I like hell divers. There's a cold motivational speech at the end there, in it. Most of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make. It's starting to wonder. And very imperium.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I must say, starting to wonder how cold it might be in comparison. Ooh, this one's going to tickle bricky. All right. Sina Sikava was first conscripted into the Elysian drop troops during the invasion of Elysia after the formation of the Great Rift. he fought in airborne operations on Kappa, he-ha, six against chaos space marines, being one of the only 60 troopers who successfully reached their landing zone alive.
Starting point is 00:41:56 With his company disarray and its officers all dead, Sikava organized a defense that fended off waves of cultist attackers. When reinforcements arrived, they discovered the wounded Sikava and his troopers surrounded by a pile of dead enemies. He went on to serve in battle after battle, fighting orcs. At one point, used a sniper rifle of a fallen comrade to put, down an Eldar Farsier and so on. Don't make the joke, D.K.
Starting point is 00:42:20 But the reality was... I don't say anything! Even during his first glorious victory, some people noticed that Adeptus custodies had descended on Alicia to shadow the traitors and save Sina's life. Speculations to any connection were quickly stifled when a group of custodian guard abruptly attached themselves to battle group where he served. The Golden Warriors were seen fighting along at least three war zones, never straying far from Sikiva's platoon, but also never fighting alongside them.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Ultimately, Sina's Sikava fell defending the Shrine Fort against heretic forces. Whatever interest the custodies had in Sikava was never discovered, but they were never seen in battle group Khorasine again. In fact, two days after his death, they redeployed leaving as abruptly as they had arrived. I like the... That's weird. No, that's about right. The Aquilin shield.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Although actually, hang on, in fact, two days before his death, not even after, they left before he got wasted. So one of the interesting things that you read about the Aquilin Shield and the custodians is that the special individual they go to defend often is one who is going to be of great renown. And because, you know, custodians are, I don't know, somehow they know everything or whatever it is. So very, very often they get whatever needs to be done done. and then they leave. And normally the person that are offending dies immediately afterwards
Starting point is 00:43:46 because they've already done what they need to do. Yeah. It's good. They show up, they help a legend, and then they go, right, and we've,
Starting point is 00:43:55 and we're finished. Off we go. Does he know? He knows. They knew. He knows. He knows. He knows.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I guess I'll read this one. The Scopios incident. Scopios was a small planet. Wait, wait. What about Kyrioth? He needs to do. read some things. Oh, Kierreth, you want to read this one? I just reclined in my chair. I was like, okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:44:17 No, read this one. Let's go. Unreclined. Get back up, old man, and read this. Get back in there. Oh, my back. Okay. So, this, now, now I'm in my head about pronouncing things. The Scopias incident. The Scopias, no, these guys, what happened? Help. Oh, man. Maybe I should have read this one. Yeah, well, I, it's fallen apart. Okay. Maybe we should have just let the old man recline. I passed out immediately. It happens when he gets to this age.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Scorpios was a small planetoid in interstellar space, approximately one week's warp travel from Elysia, used by the Adeptus Mechanicus, as a containment facility for dangerous experimentation. Sounds promising. In 873M38, an alien spacehawk was discovered by the explorator ship, the incalculus stellar and towed to the Scorpius facility, which sounds like a fun and safe thing to do.
Starting point is 00:45:13 When a routine patrol by the Imperial Navy reported, shockingly, that they lost contact with the Scorpius base, the 22nd Elysian Drop Troops Regiment was sent to investigate. Upon arrival, the commander of the 22nd, Colonel Prince, deployed several recon companies along with naval observers to go aboard and examine the facility. At first, it seemed deserted, but as the recon teams penetrated deeper into the facilities, Fighting broke out, but each time the enemy skirmished and retreated, giving Prince no clear picture of the nature of the threat he and his men faced.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Captain Schultz of the third recon company called in the first real intelligence. The automated production facilities of the base have been transformed beyond recognition by agents unknown and were now manufacturing skeletal metal warriors. Oh boy. Colonel Prins responding to warnings from the fleet astrophaths, the drop of his entire regiment onto scopius with the orders to cleanse and burn the facility which was promptly destroyed and marked as forbidden. Moral of the story, adeptus and
Starting point is 00:46:19 take their fingers out of Necron shit and stick to praying to washing machines. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's, yeah, I think they made the right call. I think that was the way to go. Get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Stick to praying to washing machines, huh? Yeah, yeah, you know Of all the phrases Candles, you know I mean, true, like I figured Shy would have been like, oh, they should stick to fucking
Starting point is 00:46:51 Toasters or something Because you know, Admec and such I mean, Praying to washing machines was fairly tame for Shy actually I mean, I mean, you know, that is also a thing they may be doing. Yeah, I guess they could be doing, but,
Starting point is 00:47:05 oh, hey, yeah. Maybe one is a form of prayer for the other. Why only stick your dick in the toaster when you can also stick it in the washing machine? Oh, this is a long one. Holy. Oh, boy. You know what? I want to take this one.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I'm feeling my second wind. Hey, let's go. Hit it. All right. The raid on Castoral Novem. November? Here's the example of Ravengard doing the opposite of the Death Spectors, quote, Let them all die thing, and proving them right.
Starting point is 00:47:39 In 952.M4.1, Waugh Garik had invaded the Castoral Nobem sector and transformed its capital, Castoral Novum, very imaginative, into the orc base of operations and manufacturing by enslaving the local population. Garrick, Garak, whatever, had much bigger ambitions, however, and 9-A-A-M-4-1 began assaulting the four-star sector backed by newly built heavy weapons, stompas and gargans. determined to stop Garg with a surgical strike on his base of Kustral Novum before he could cause any more damage. The Imperium deployed elements from four companies of the Ravenguard under Shadow Captain Corvday, while the departmental munitorium, or 181, or 181, I guess, Elysium droop-troop, droop-troop regiment of the Imperial Guard. Because we always stick together. It's droop-t troop, best of friends for him. Anyway, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:32 That is, how old are you? Hey. We've established that 50% of this episode is old people. We know this. Hey, how about we all just shut the hell up and keep reading this thing that Shai so lovingly crafted, all? We can all watch an episode of Friends after this. Let's not talk about how old I am. Let's just keep reading this finely crafted story by Shai.
Starting point is 00:48:55 To draw the attention of the orcs and allow Ravenguard to continue their brutal struggle against relentlessly resisting kerosene containers, the 181st Elysian D. the 181st Elysian Troop Troop Regiment launched an airborne assault on the Greenskin Gargan construction yards engaging in a pitched but ultimately doomed battle against superior numbers. However, Raven Guard Captain Corvdei
Starting point is 00:49:16 provided a reluctant to send the guardsmen to their deaths and abandon his goal and led his forces against the orcs attacking the Elysians. I guess Corvidei, Corvidae, whatever. Corvadee. Corvadee succeeded in holding back the orcs long enough for the Elysians to withdraw. However, Corvay's novel actions turned out very dumb because surviving gasoline barrels
Starting point is 00:49:39 got used to fuel really big Ork Mechas, which started kicking Humey ass. Soon, Orc Stompas overran the Elysian and Ravenguard positions. Attempting to evacuate both the Ravenguard and Imperial Guard forces, Corvday launched a diversionary attack against the Ork Stompas and Death Dreads to try and buy time for the retreat. Like the dumbass he is, Corvday was strained on the field of battle after his butter after his land raider was destroyed by orc fire before being rescued by Thunderhawks. The surviving Elysian troops then withdrew via Valkyries with the remaining Ravengar.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Though they had managed to survive total annihilation, the Imperial Raid had been a failure. Roughly 70 Ravenguard and 2,500 Elysian drop troops had lost their lives in the botched raid. Worse still, much of the Imperial heavy weaponry could not be evacuated in time and was left behind to be looted by the orcs. For his failures during the reign, Corvday served two years in the Death Watch. Ravenguard zero or fuel barrels one Yikes
Starting point is 00:50:37 That's rough That is bad That is a bit of a failure Yeah that's that's Yikes Eish Cool What a tie in these folks
Starting point is 00:50:48 What people they are Yeah All I'm learning is that the drop troops Have a great time Matter who's around them Also They always come out on top If you fail
Starting point is 00:50:59 You can be forced to serve in the Death Watch as a space marine? I thought the Death Watch was something that, like, you chose to be a part of because you hate Zenos. I'm pretty positive he served two years in the Death Watch as like a penance, his own personal penance. Oh, oh, so he was like, oh, okay, I thought, I thought, by the way, that sounded like they made him do it. And I was like, wait a minute, isn't that something you got to choose to do? Isn't that something you're like, I accidentally got a bunch of people killed and did a terrible job? If you
Starting point is 00:51:29 need me, I'll be over here until people forget about it kind of situation. Right, okay. And he's like, oh yeah, I'll be in the death watch and I'll go kill a bunch of orc to make up for my failings against the orcs. Okay, cool, cool. All right, let's see here. D.K., you're up next.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Oh, wow, that is a bit of a wall of text. Elysian droop troops participated in Terros campaign. Prior to the campaign, planetary governor Owlis, head of the Taros government, deployed friendly trading relations with the Tao, and sought to defect to the Tao Empire with the support of much of the planetary population, probably because working in a shit processing facility 20 hours a day at Commissar's gunpoint eventually gets old.
Starting point is 00:52:19 When his treachery was unveiled, the avenging sun's space marines were called upon to assassinate Governor Arles. Aulus in what was to be the first Teros intervention. Teros called upon... Teros intervention force descended on planet and valiantly failed the assignment after suffering tremendous losses,
Starting point is 00:52:43 including over half of their Terminator contingent and one dreadnought, all capitals, LOL. Following the battle, the Tao officially annexed Teros while the Imperium decided on a full-scale invasion to rectify the situation. After 42 days of war, supply shortages and tau raiding had stalled the offensive. A new imperial plan was accrued upon, utilizing Elysian droop troops to seize Teros,
Starting point is 00:53:12 hydroforms, and controlling the planet's water supply. Dubbed Operation Comet, such a Gundam name, it was a daring plan fraught with dangers that involved striking deep behind Tao lines. The Elysians and stormtroopers were dropped from Valkyries to assault hydro-processing plant 23 through 30. Seeing that shit coming a mile away, Tao bombarded the poor bastards by tiger sharks, tiger sharks, hammerheads, and devilfish. On the third day of fighting, the Imperial Navy was too bogged down with Tao air elements
Starting point is 00:53:50 to assist, and the Zenos closed in to finish the job and retake the plant. After the Imperial Colonel Balach refused a Tao request of surrender, the Elysians were annihilated, probably while thanking their boss for not asking their opinion on this development. Elysian general Skikava was actually captured by the Tao, the highest ranking imperial official taken in the war. Sikava flatly referred. the offer of the ethereal
Starting point is 00:54:22 to join with the Tao Empire because that worked out great for the other guy. Why not go for the double down? General Sakava organized a prisoner uprising at a Tao P-O-W camp manned by human collaborators. Sakava and several men managed to escape attempting a harsh trek through the desert
Starting point is 00:54:43 to reach imperial lines. As he succumbed to thirst and fell unconscious, he was recovered by Imperial patrols. Sikava told the Imperials of the Ethereal he had met, and not knowing the Tao Supreme Headquarters, not knowing of the Tao Supreme Headquarters, a new plan was devised, Operation Death Blow. And blow it did. Targeting the Tao Aetherial in an attempt to decapitate the Zenos hierarchy, the Imperials deployed a member of the officio-assassanorms Eversore Temple.
Starting point is 00:55:17 While Valkyrie-born Elysians assaulted the rest of, the headquarters, the berserker assassin managed to self-destruct inside the Tao command bunker, killing Ethereal Andver. But the plan failed. Enraged by the loss of their leader, Tao officers rallied the surviving Tao as their reinforcements arrived and wiped out the Elysians who fought to the bitter end. Elysians refusing to surrender did nothing to improve Tao's mood, and they began an offensive that targeted the falling back Imperial Guard. The evacuation became chaos with troops fighting for any available transport space as commissar and stormtroopers tried to keep order. With the Imperials having abandoned tariffs, the planet was renamed Tross by the Tao and converted the planet into a mining station.
Starting point is 00:56:04 We do love a good happy ending. Absolute catalogue of failure from start to finish that, won't it? Yeah, man. Absolutely terrible. Sheesh. Not a whole lot goes right for these poor Elysians. Like, they get sent into some really, like, ah, situations. Yeah, they do, I feel like they don't have a good time.
Starting point is 00:56:26 No. They don't have a great time. After seeing all these stories, I'm like, I wouldn't want to be one, because chances are I'm going to be sent into, like, a no-win situation where my commanders are absolute idiots and get me killed. Or taking prisoner. Yeah, you plummet out of a, out of a, out of a Valkyrie. then you go through a bunch of anti-air fire,
Starting point is 00:56:49 you survive long enough to slam into the floor, you stand up, and an incompetent officer gets all of you murdered. Great. Just stand a day as an Elysian troop troop. God, I love the Imperial Guard. Hale you. Hale you, brother. Apparently this one's for you, Kariath.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Okay, the cacophony of extremist six. The cacophony of Extremist 6 began when the Emperor's Children and the Riotus Host Trater Titan Legion. God. What a name! The Riotist host Trader Titan Legion! It really told me by surprise. The riotist host Trater Titan Legion invaded the Populist Imperial World Extremist 6 during the 13th Black Crusade. Under the orders of Lucius the Eternal, the riotous host, used their sonic weaponry to level Extremist's is numerous star-scrapers, which caused the death of billions.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Welcome to XVI- Welcome to 40K. Yeah. Once word of the devastating invasion reached the Imperium, the 352nd Elysian droop troops, along with the tempestus formations of the 12th, thetoid condors. I know everything in 40K is made up,
Starting point is 00:58:09 but that feels, that just sounds especially made up. And the first Zetic Harriers arrived on extremist six to enact vengeance on the traitors. However, in the battle that followed, the regiments were completely destroyed by the forces of Sla Nash, which were greatly aided by a giant snake-bodied demon that easily killed any astromilitarum guardsman that crossed its path. I wonder who that was.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Well, I guess it's just going to remain a mystery because you didn't spell it out for me. I have no idea who that could be. Also, I can't imagine who this possibly be because there's a good chance they don't have a model yet. That too. You're right. I just want to point out, the riotous host, Traitor, Titan, Legion. They were part of the invasion, and the response was, okay, but what if we throw a bunch of guys out of planes at it? Now, I'm not a military expert, right?
Starting point is 00:59:07 I feel like there's other choices out there that might have been more sensible, but that's just me. That's just me, okay? All right. I mean, you're not wrong. That being said, I'd like to utilize a prior Imperial Guard strategy. And imagine the general that's giving these orders. I imagine, can you truly tell me that this general has not, like, needed to do anything else besides throw men in planes? at stuff. Like, he's got a lot of men in planes. That's true. That's the whole point of the guard
Starting point is 00:59:43 is just, just throw, just throw insanely ridiculous numbers of guard at the problem, and eventually it'll be solved, right? Yeah, and we did, we did literally read earlier, uh, as most of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Like, yeah, yeah. All right, this one, I'll, I'll round us out. The battle for Alicia. Sometimes after the Great Rift's creation, Elysia was invaded by a large force of chaos space marines. In order to prevent the invaders from becoming a threat to Tara, the adeptus custodians, Captain General Trajan Valoros, The man! Has led the fury of Tara's shield hosts to do battle against the traitors.
Starting point is 01:00:29 The receding war saw the forces of chaos defeat him and Elysia saved. For once, Elysians didn't all die, which genuinely shocked me because clearly, God, Games Workshop, or both, hate them very much. Yeah, wow, they succeeded. That's amazing. The real happy ending for the Elysians, they didn't lose their home world. Hooray, we saved our home world. It's the best they've ever done. We're keeping our heads above water. Hooray. You know, I'm thinking back to this right now. I'm like, how, do you remember the old
Starting point is 01:01:04 saying, just like, how many tigers can we have sent? to attack the sun? No, actually. I've never heard that. I've never heard that saying before. I'm afraid I'm not even being sarcastic. I've just genuinely like never heard that one. There's an old joke,
Starting point is 01:01:21 an old internet mean, which is like one trillion lions versus the sun, who would win? And it's like, well, I mean, and then the joke normally goes like, I mean, that's a lot of lions though, right? It's a lot of lions, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I don't know. But the sun would. win obviously. Well, what if the lions attacked at night? It's still the sun. The sun. See, you're not accepting the brain rot. Isn't it?
Starting point is 01:01:47 Oh my God. That really is an internet meme. You're not getting the brain rot in, but I'm just thinking to myself, like, who would win, right? Folgram or how many men in planes do we need to take out of the phonerum? Because, like, eventually, eventually if you had enough guard, you could probably do it. Like, if you had an infinite number of guard, like, you probably could eventually take Holgram. I mean, basically, they do have a boardline infinite number of guards. How many are you willing to sacrifice trying to take out Folgram, though?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Right? So, oh, okay. Oh, yes, excellent. Three octillion tigers. Perfect. Three octillion tigers is how many tigers we need to defeat the sun. All right. Okay, you can't just, you've got to give the working out as well.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like, you can't just skip to three-up killing targets. There's actual works going to this. Well, we will do, I'll read Shai's math for you, all right? This is the last Elysian droop trooper story. Oh yeah, this is completely relevant to the droop troops that all would stick together. The Sun's Mass is 1.989 E30 KG. I'm American. I can't.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I don't know. Let's round that up to 2E30. One-fourth of that is five. E-29. Adult male tigers range from 90 to 310 kilograms, midpoint 200. Adult female tigers range from 65 to 170 kilograms, midpoint about 117.5. Assuming roughly even numbers of male tigers and female tigers, this puts the overall average mass of a tiger. It's somewhere around 158K, give a take. We round up the sun earlier, so I'm not going to round up the tiger now to 160.66.66, which is exactly one-third of 500.
Starting point is 01:03:36 So three E-27 tigers, three octillion tigers, Bada-boom, Bada-Bing. That's how many tigers you need to beat the sun. Hey, my manakia. Thanks, Shai, for that lovely math lesson. Do we have any other Elysian stuff to talk about, or any other stories? Oh, Shai has one more.
Starting point is 01:04:02 I was going to say it feels like that tiger is sailed, but we do have one more. Oh, shut the fuck up, Curia. That was so bad. Even as I was saying it, I was like, I have no conviction for this one. Like, it's so much of a reach. I don't actually, I lost confidence halfway through. I got it.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I wasn't happy about it, but I got it. Yeah, minus three octillion tigers for sure, yeah. Oh, you've up to it. It was only minus two. Well, you've got to stay relevant. Your disappointment encompasses the sun. Oh, thanks, dad. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:35 No problem. I'm going to get some milk now. God damn it, let him read the things you can. Sorry! 997 M41. Elysian and Haricone regiments were sent to investigate the Antoro system after all contact is lost.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Reports indicated the presence of the Space Hulk Agony of the Damned. None returned. Stop fucking touching these things. Why would you even... Just leave it. Just turn round. What Space Hawk is this?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Oh, this is agony? of the damned. Okay, well, I'm going home. Do you want to come with me or are you're going to you're going to stay where you are? Like, what a name? It's the Imperium though, right? If they turn to... How many tigers can you fit in that? Yeah, how many tigers do you fit in that? Yeah, what's the size of the
Starting point is 01:05:24 Space Hulk? Agony of the Dam? Like, can we see how many tigers we can genuinely just like shove in there? Yeah. How many... Should I do the math, please? How many tigers will fit in that Space Hulk, agony of the dam? Even, even better question, though. Okay, actually, you know what's a little... You know what, I take offense to this.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Agony of the Damned is absolutely an imperial ship name. Like, The agony of the dam. Like, yeah, against the dam. Like, it's very clearly also imperial coded in a way.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Okay. Yeah, maybe a little bit. Now, if it was imperial coded, it would have to be like the emperor's righteous fury or something, right? I mean, yeah. Then again, Imperium also has, you know, a faction, like a chapter of space marines called The Flesh Terror's, which, frankly, you've never heard a more chaos name in your life, but. Yeah, if you were like, this episode is about the flesh terrors. Chaos or loyalist? I would immediately be like, obviously chaos.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And the children of the emperor, or the emperor's children even, they're not, they're not loyalists. For the emperor. Could go either way. How many octillion tigers can we fit in a loyalist legion, you know? Yeah. I love it. Any more? Are we, are we, have we reached the pinnacle of the Elysian droop troops?
Starting point is 01:06:59 I think we have. I think we have. It went very tiger-heavy at the end there, but I think it was valuable information all the way around. Oh, yeah. We all, my life has been thoroughly enriched, not by the droop-trop, but knowing how many tigers I need to conquer the sun. Love it. Right, let's mount up and ride out. That's a lot of tigers, though. Yeah. Broncos country, let's ride. That's a lot of tigers, though. That is so many tigers. That's so many tigers.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I'm like, you can't even fathom, like, one octillion. All right. How many, how many men in planes do we need to kill three octillion tigers? Better question. All right, Kyriath, you're standing there, right? You're standing there. Now, now an eight-year-old spawned. in front of you and you need to you need to beat them unconscious and when you do you get a 30 second
Starting point is 01:08:03 rest before another eight year old spawns how many eight year olds do you think you can beat down before you're like they finally overwhelm you and overpower you are you talking about what do you think it would be a hundred duck sized horses or one horse size duck how many tigers do I have access to to take on the eight-year-olds. You have three octillion tigers to attack the eight-year-olds. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:08:35 So it's been anime brain ride is really, that hangover is hitting hard. Now that second wind is toxic fumes, apparently. I can't wait to watch this back and see how many minutes ago shy end of this episode.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Hell yeah. All right, guys, I'm going to go source three octillion tigers. I'll see you later. I can't wait until Bricky watches this episode back and he's like, I don't remember saying any of it. All right. Goodbye, everybody.

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