Adeptus Ridiculous - FERRUS MANUS: I SHALL BE THE HAMMER OF THE EMPEROR, AND I SHALL NEVER TIRE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousFerrus Manus, (literally "Hand of Iron") the Gorgon, was one of the twenty Primarchs created by the Emperor before the Great Crusade. He led the Iron Hands Space Marine Legion. During his time on the world of Medusa Manus's hands became encased in a hard metallic substance, and he became known for his iron resolve and disdain for weakness.Support the show

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky, and we're going to be learning about 40K today, everybody's favorite grim, dark, horrible fantasy. But before we do, if you enjoy today's episode, head over to Patreon, patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you can get access to our Discord, bloopers if they happen, the $15 tier gets all the HD posters, and if we hit 20,000 big ones, I will do a fantasy episode for Bricky on probably the Skaven. So, Patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous and Bricky, you got some news, I hear.

I get here, you got some big news. I got myself a big news shy. We're going to need all the bells and whistles. I need a drum roll. I need a spotlight, at least a spotlight, at least minimum of spotlight. Maybe confetti, if you can afford it. If we can afford it, do we have that in the budget?

Maybe two spotlights, one for Bricky, one for his, forehead because, you know. Yeah, best she can do is fart reverb. That's okay. Do the fart reverb, but like it's a drum roll of fart reverb. So it's just like constantly. Anyway, we have a massive major new merch drop coming in. And this has been one that has been going on for over like three or four months now.

And I finally have everything set up and ready. I commissioned an art piece. a while ago by a particularly excellent, excellent artist and I have the piece finally right here. D.K. and shy, I have not seen it yet. Oh, yeah. You only told us that

Whoa. So I call it the music of the third, a rendition of the emperor's children's Maraviglia effect. As you can see, you've got Bekwokinska in the center. All of the musicians. You could see some, you know, all of it, of course, distinct enough,

legally distinct enough to its own point. Wow, that's amazing. It was a long and very expensive commission, but the more you look at it and you look in like the corners and the various imagery gets a little bit creepier and just kind of unsettling. Oh, man, that's great. I'm super happy how it turned out.

I absolutely love it. So you can pick it up in two poster forms, the 18 by 24 and 24 by 36 inch sizes. And also, it is our debut of trading card game mats as well. the classic yeah the classic like kind of neoprene sort of a trading card game mat the 35 by 60 centimeters i believe is the size we packed up a couple hundred of those they finally arrived as well and those are also for sale and it's also available on just a simple black shirt black hoodie just to uh you know add a little bit of extra to it so uh starting here

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This took a very long time to commission. And then the mats took a while to get here and all the things. But I'm very happy. I can see why that took so long. because that is whew that is primo

that's great thank you thank you the artist wishes to remain anonymous okay so

so that that's a whole thing however uh yeah they did a phenomenal job oh yeah that is bang

a rang absolutely it's ridiculous I love it also I like play mats because I don't

I don't like play card games or nothing I use them as like as like a desk, like, you know those full desk mouse pads? Oh yeah, yeah. I just lay it down under my keyboard and my mouse,

and it's like a desk mouse pad. It's a lot more convenient than just having that one little mouse pad. Absolutely. I actually have one right now from Outer Wilds. The greatest video game ever made. Yeah, I have a, it has been a hotel one, but that's because I'm a dork. It's pretty dorky, but the color scheme probably would look pretty good.

But anyway, yes, that has been launched now. I will probably post this on Twitter now. Today it's Monday. And then have it all go live Wednesday. This episode comes out. Super exciting. Hell yeah. And it is topical from a time perspective because today we have another episode.

And are you DK ready for your quote? Today, topical, because today we have an episode. It's about what the episode's about, you slut. Oh, okay. So we're doing another Emperor's Children, Fulgram adjacent episode. We already did them, didn't we? Adjacent, I guess, would be maybe the term. Yeah, and we already did the topic that the painting, or not, well, I guess it is a painting,

the art piece that you displayed. We already talked about that horrible, awful cacophony of madness. Okay, so it's not Emperor's Children. I'll read you the quote and see if you can get it. I won't, but sure. Okay, well, let me do it anyway. Yeah, do it anyway. I'll give them a best damn shot.

Rest? We were not made to rest. We go on unflinching, unstoppable, unending in our strength. The Emperor did not make us for such mortal concerns. as hearth and home, vanity or contemplation. We are his engines of war, his hammers, beating out the fabric of existence into a vessel fit for mankind to inhabit. Ah, so this is absolutely a space marine chapter.

All right, so far so good. Hmm. Is it, oh, who are, I don't recall if we did an episode on them. Oh, I'm trying to remember who Fulgram was good buddies with, and they both made a weapon for each other or something, and they were like, oh, your weapon's way better for me than my weapon, and then they sort of swapped, and that's why Fulgram has the sword, and the other dude has, like, the big crazy freaking hammer thing. Ooh, what might the other dude's name be? Oh, what is his name? Is it? No, it's not Theris Manus, is it?

Because that's, that's the boring scientist. I'm going fair as manis Holy Dick, you got it Let's go! I knew I'd get it! Yeah, I had total confidence in you. I, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that didn't even take along. No, it didn't. I'm actually very impressed. It also helped that I knew that it was Emperor's Children adjacent and that we had done an episode on Fulgram and the Empress Children

and the thing that we done the poster on. That was kind of the reason for why the poster drop was today was because... Well, yeah, obviously, because it was going to be related to the episode. So, yeah, I got it. I got it. So when I say that this episode might not be as long as other episodes, what does that mean, DK?

That means it's going to be under an hour, right? For us, a shorter episode is under an hour, right? Or it just means I'm a liar. Or that, yeah, because usually whenever you say it for an Adric episode or I say it for a detective ridiculous episode, it just falls out of control. So, Ferris Manus. Obviously, there are the two major episodes that go along with every Space Marine chapter, Ferris Manus and then the subsequent episode on the Iron Hands. Yeah. I, you know, okay, so when I started researching Ferris Manus, I was like, okay, all right.

Ferris Manus, often referred to as the primark with the least lore or the most boring or just kind of like you have to say, what's your least favorite primark out of the 19 or 18? It depends if you count the two alfarius. Yeah. Most people I think would say Ferris Manus, not because he himself is a particularly bad primark. He just doesn't have enough to make him interesting. And I was like, all right. God darn it. I've heard this for so long.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves on this. Let's go ahead. Let's really get that research. Let's learn about Ferris Manus. And so I started researching Ferris Manus. And then I was like, damn, there's really not much. Oh, man. No, that was your chance to say, man, I started the research and I realized I was in over my head.

it. Oh. That was your chance, dude. Oh, damn. But you blew it. Oh, sorry, I was getting a little too headstrong. If only Ferris Manus had been a little headstrong, right? Yeah, a little.

Like still be there. So, yeah, I will say out of all of them, he definitely does feel like he has the least lore overall. In fact, so much so that we have covered a pretty great deal. of it already in the Fulgram episodes. Is his lore just what you learn from like Fulgram and his like, uh, friendship with Fulgrim before? Not fully, but a bit more than I'd like. Yeah.

Oh, okay. I, so obviously there's the openings of Farrus Manus. And of course, as we've been talking about before, the episode is really important to understand what Ferris Manus is like. you know, more than just every single bit of lore. But what he's like is kind of a cold dick. So it doesn't help. Like, I don't like the fact that I'm not a huge fan of Ferris.

I wish, I really was hoping that I was going to roll into this episode and be like, no, he's so misunderstood or all these kinds of things. But instead, what I got was just, I feel like GW doesn't much care. Yeah. And being the, being the casualty of the horse heresy so early on, adds more to Fulgrim's lore than it does to Farris. But anyway, enough about that.

Let's go ahead and get kind of like more into the nitty-gritty. Let's, let's do. Because as far as I know about Farris Manus, yeah, literally when I hear his name, it's just like, oh yeah, he's the guy that got his head chopped off and he was really good friends with Fulgrim, and they made weapons for each other, and they held hands as they pranced through the field of roses and then everything fell apart.

Or the amount of missing head memes we've already done this episode. Yeah, that too. Yeah, that too. Also, all I know about him is that he's incredibly boring, and that's all anybody will ever tell me about him is that he's just boring. So here's how it goes. Basically, as we all know, gestation pods. He was yeated at a pretty substantial speech.

into the planet of Medusa. Medusa was one of those feral worlds where the sky was always dark and just kind of depraved tons of like cavernous mountains and lava and ice and just like a major volcanic activity style world. He was basically thrown

at such massive speeds that he slammed into the highest mountain of the entire world known as Karashi. It was the ice pinnacle, was the name of it. In fact, it said that he was, he slammed in the mountaintop so hard that the land beneath him shook with the impact and the entire world felt the tectonic plates of how badly he smashed into this thing.

Wow, he smashed into that planet so hard that he caused a world quake. A world quake. Okay. That's a pretty big yeat, but all right. We're talking like mountains toppled, chasms were forming, like the planet shifted when he's landed in it. In fact, some of the locals said that some of the mountains genuinely shook themselves to pieces with his arrival. He destroyed mountains. As a baby.

As a baby. Well, I mean, it's just because he got so forcefully foothed in. to a mountain, right? Not he himself didn't destroy the mountains with like sheer psychic brutality. So a lot of Ferris Manus's early life is not documented. And I'm pretty sure 90% of the time when there is a non-documented Primark thing, it normally is because they don't really have a dedicated Primark book for that situation. Yeah.

But Ferris has a lot of like stories about him. The natives of Medusa were kind of feral, roaming tribes kind of thing, a little similar to Vulcan with the way his tribes were. But Ferris Manus was very often seen as almost this like mythological figure. And a lot of his early stories were told from the perspective of myth. For example, it was like, it was all about the early exploits of him, whereas no one could match his strength of arm so he could not find a worthy opponent. And he saw not every physical challenge that he could always returning victorious. He challenged a storm

giant to a competition of strength. The giant lifted a mountain between his hands and set it back down a mile away. And the giant's laugh died as Ferris lifted the entire mountain range on to his back, carrying it to a neighboring island. The humble giant was never seen again. Like, you know, kind of tall tales. Yeah, it sounds like Greek mythology, right?

I mean, he is on Medusa. He is on Medusa. And I mean, to a planet full of just roaming tribesmen, a Primark must indeed seem like this just godlike mythological figure that you will write fables

and songs about, right? Like if a Primark came to Earth today, it'd be like, oh, you know, and everybody would be in awe. I don't know. I think we would probably nuke him. Yeah, you're probably right. We'd probably, he'd be like, I come in peace. I'm just here to shine the light of the emperor on you. And then, yeah, we'd probably duke the hell out of them. What's the Simpsons thing where it's like, it's coming in peace, break its legs. Yes, that is the most earth thing to do. So Ferris eventually, after a few years, left the mountaintop that he was on completely fully grown, traveled the length of Medusa and stuff, and became known by its people and its various cultures.

These cultures were full of like tribesmen, you know, old school kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And during this time, the tall tales about him continued. He climbed tall mountains, swam to the oceans, always kind of pushed himself, basically. and he was kind of, well, he's no matter what, he's kind of a dick.

He must have gotten that from his dad, eh? Oh, yeah, maybe. He values strength amongst everything. There is literally an ability the iron hands have in a game called Mercy is weakness. Oh, boy.

And so like he, there are the clans, the neighboring tribesmen would fight each other. And he just wouldn't get involved. Because he's like, ah, this is healthy. You know, murder between each other is good. Keeps the strong, strong, and tempers the weak. And weakness is a terrible quality that should not be kept.

Oh, boy, he's one of those. He's actually, he sounds more like an edge lord, you know. Mercies for the weak. We need more war to call out all of the bitches. So, you know how. you know how when you're on Twitter or something and you see someone with a Socrates profile picture and you're like, you're about to hear some of the most prolific racism you've ever heard. Like I feel like Ferris Manus is actually what the Sigma male meme is really about. Oh.

Like I think he is the Sigma male in general. The don't bother with weak people. they only drag you down. Be strong, cold, and stoic for that to become a 100% better than the alpha. He is the Sigma male. Yeah, I mean, Shai just put that drawing of him in chat. And I'm just like, yeah, he looks like he is just cocked, locked, and ready to launch a racial slur. Like, he is 100% a problem child.

But, yeah, oh, you want to read this what Shai said? Ah, yeah, Shai said memes aside he was cold, rigid, had no patience or mercy. He was close to Per Troubao in personality, but without pettiness or cruelty, he just didn't care. Yeah, he just doesn't care. He's like, oh, God, this weak person is dying, whatever. Whereas Pratirabu would, like, probably step on them. He would just leave him there. I'm like, well, this is what you get for being weak.

For free? For free? For free? Steps on you for three? But the most famous story of Ferris Manus was his battle against Azernoth, the great silver worm. Now, we know what this is now.

By the time, it was kind of this talk of fable and myth, where there was a great silver worm-like construct hidden it deep within the mountains of Medusa. and nothing could ever damage it. No conventional weapons could ever harm it. His fists and weapons would just bounce right off of it. So eventually, he was found a way to subdue the beast, grab it, and drown it in a river of lava.

Wow. And when he did so, pulling his hands from the lava, the metal necrodermis of this creature had melted and fused itself to his forearms. Ah, that's how he gets him. Yes, hence giving himself the iron hands he is so known for today. And that's why they're called the iron hands. And it's all making sense. We now know that this metal worm was actually like an experimental necron construct. Oh, so he actually got himself some of the necron.

Necrodermis. Oh, it's literally just called necrodermis. Yep. Like the necrodermis melted over his hands. That's why they're so darn tough. Well, yeah. I mean, that, that necrodermis is no joke. The, no, it's a super not a joke at all.

But his big metal hands were then layered by that because a lot of the mountainous things up there were both like necrone-based and also just dark age technology, just all kinds of weird creatures and crap up there in the, in the overarching lands of Medusa. But that was like the big Titanic showdown was him versus this worm and drowning it and getting the metal hands. Damn, imagine just getting a worm and then just right into some lava with your bare hands. Like, what a Chad move. I mean, Folgram did choke to death an avatar of Kane, which was molten lava made manifest. I mean, hey, they were destined to be best friends. You know, that's a good point. So after that, he returned down to the clans with new ideas and just all kinds of concepts and thought processes to teach them.

He helped to craft these crazy weapons out of tools made of metal, shaping them with his living metal hands. And for the most part, he taught the people of Medusa all kinds of, you know, lore and importance and technology. all that kind of stuff at a very fast pace because Primark's the usual. But he didn't really take over the planet diplomatically. He was a dictator.

He was like, you now all serve me and we're going to do great things. And if you don't serve me, I'm going to kill you. Okay, so he was definitely not a great leader. He was just, okay. Well, maybe he was because he's so damn strong that's like, oh, of course we're going to follow you. Why wouldn't we?

You're obviously the best among us. So, you know, I was, I knew you had the sound. I was waiting for it. Yeah, when you said it, I had to do it. I'm sorry. Yep, yep, yep. But yes, oh yeah, Shai said the clans of the play, I didn't understand anything but violence.

Because, yeah, they were all feral tribesmen. Yeah. So it did help. But even like when they became a bit more normal, you know, Ferris was not a temperate leader. putting it mildly, sure. He is a dictator. That's what he was.

It was a full-on dictator. And the weak of the tribe were cut out and removed. And the strong were made to continue. And so long as you could bring something to the tribe, so long as you were strong enough to help him and his world, then you got to stay. And the moment you didn't, then you left or were removed. So kind of like Spartan idea of like the,

Spartans, where it's like only the strongest, you know, and even at birth, it's like, oh, is that a weak baby? Throw it off the cliff. Yeah, pretty much. I'm pretty positive that the frail children were thrown out into the elements so that they were not an unnecessary burden on the rest of the community. And when an adult... Literally Spartan. And when an adult was incapable of providing, they also left.

So... So the eldest, so you didn't really grow old and feeble because the, you know, the, you didn't really grow old and feeble because the... community dealt with you before you got there. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because there were, there's two Spartan style primarks out here. There's, uh, Ferris Manus and Perchirabo, because Perchirabo was on Olympia and had an extremely, extremely Greek, uh, wait, no, Spartans were Rome, wait, Spartans were Greek, right? Um, yes, Spartans, I think so. I only remember that because I do believe the Spartans sailed with.

with the group. Well, wait, no, they were definitely Greek because Craigs is a Spartan. Yeah. There we go.

I think you got a war. I was going to say, I only remember, because I'm pretty sure they sailed with the Greeks in the Trojan War. Right. Oh,

yeah, Spartans, hell, I didn't get along with the rest of the Greeks. Yeah, they did not get along with the rest of Greece.

So there were, there were the two kinds of Greece. I guess Greek-based factions. Percharabo and then there's the the iron hands. one's from Medusa, one's from Olympia. There's a lot of kind of stuff.

Though Olympia, despite being a much more war, like technologically advanced area, they felt a little bit more like the Greek nobility. Lots of wine, lots grapes and togas, that kind of thing. A lot of hedonism bots. Probably.

Not Per Traba, though. He's an in-cell. Well, I mean, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, a little bit. This feels like more of the horrible, dark, depressing thing. where the mountains were covered in ice or lava and tectonic plates were shifting, and the sky was a constant cloud of dust or dark.

So, yeah, they were definitely more feral. And I guess him taking it over definitely had more of the forced into a Spartan-like style. And eventually, when the sky opened up again and the other divine being arrived, namely the emperor, Ferris took the emperor with him, strode up to the tallest mountains, and fought him. Not surprising that he would see the emperor and want to fight him.

Yep, not surprised by that at all. He saw him as an equal and was like, we shall have, our battle shall be legendary. I'm sure the emperor was like, you see us as equals. That's so cute. What a cute little baby boy. I'm positive that he did the same thing

that he did with Vulcan, which is temper himself a little bit for their fight. But of course, much like their myths, it was the same thing as the confrontation devastated the landscape, shattering the very heavens, you know, very, you know, tall tales. Yeah, sure. But once they came down from the mountains, their bond was strong and they had a mutual respect. And after that, of course, he was given his 10th Legion. Iron hands are the 10th, the big X, and he left Medusa kind of reluctantly.

He had these feelings of loyalty there, but he also wanted to do the sense of duty he had towards the emperor, and he knew that he needed to make strong warriors. Sure. And he knew that his people would survive without him down in Medusa, and the emperor was needed immediately, or needed him immediately. So he learned of his legion, formed his army in his image,

and made way to conquer the galaxy in the Great Crusade. All's well that ends well. The rest, so there's a lot of iron hands stuff. Like I said before, this episode will definitely be a shorter one because I actually think the iron hands are more interesting in terms of... Than their prime mark. Yeah, honest to God, yeah, I think so. I don't know.

shy could back me up on this one, but I think the iron hands are more interesting than their prime mark. Oh man. Ferris cannot catch a break. It's unfortunate. But they themselves, the iron hands are forged the way they are kind of because of how

Ferris treated them. Oh, sure. They got to be like battle-hardened warriors that are just, I don't want to say perfect, but like near perfect, because if they're not, Ferris is probably going to them or cast them out and not let them even be part of the tribe, right? So they have, these are literally the best of the best.

They're, like we said, they're Spartans. Oh, who. Mercy is weakness. Mm-hmm. Mercy is weakness. That's the whole shtick it has been for a while. So are the Iron Hands like super, well, I don't want to say that, are they super strong in-game? Because every Space Marine chapter is going to be super strong.

But, like, they seem like they'd be. tempered a little harder and stronger and beefier than a normal ass like ultramarine that's been doing taxes? So iron hands actually have broken the game more than once.

That's mainly because they're a shooting army and they just happen to have really good rules. Okay. The iron hands are definitely embodiments of their prime arcs cold, steel-like methodical thinking.

they I think okay so I guess there's the minotars who are also huge douchebags but if you had to think of like the opposite of the salamanders like oh look it's a civilian that can't help themselves sucks maybe you should have been stronger bye although honestly for an iron hands if they were going to like really encompass their prime market like oh look a civilian that is weak and can't really help themselves let me kill you and take you out of your misery It's like, ooh, hey, that's a civilian, buddy. And they're like, I know this. Now they don't have to suffer uselessness.

And it's like, hey, buddy. Like soing scoob, those civilians were unarmed. Also, what is that picture shy put? What is on that Iron Hands backpack? He looks like an ad mech. That is most likely a Tech Marine. I don't know if that's the Iron Daddy himself. But, oh, yeah, this is a...

Daddy. There's a character named Iron Father Firos. Oh, okay. There is a group of technologically advanced kind of tribesmen on Medusa that are called the Iron Fathers that kind of eventually advanced to a form of hierarchy in the Iron Hands world. It's very cool. I love that, Tech Marine. That's so dope. Shai says, due to Ferris Iron personality and his liberal, literal iron hands, many within the chapter considered flesh to be a sign of weakness and seek to expunge it from themselves to

mechanical enhancement. To this end, they have made it a practice to make extensive use of bionic modifications, going so far that there are rumors of some Battle Brothers being wholly mechanical. So Admec fans really kind of dig the iron hands too? The admec, well,

yeah, if you want, if you're a giant admec simp, yeah, I would imagine you would be playing the iron hands. That's your sidearmies. Iron Hands. I do know that Ferris, I believe himself, didn't much like this practice. I know there were some iron hands that would literally just replace their hands with full goddamn um, uh, full goddamn mechanics.

And he'd be like, why? What are you doing? I just want to be like you dead. Uh, shy. If you got a quote, you can. I actually, is it the, they are not my hands quote? I was about to read that one. they are not my hands

if it's that one oh is that one yeah i'll go ahead and read it all right they are not my hands this fact is that it oh well no no no it's more they are not my hands this fact is forgotten by my brothers inexplicably it has always seemed to me the hands are strong to be sure

and have created great things for us all but they are not mine and that counts for something They forget that the silver on my arms comes from a beast that I vanquished. It is the mark of a great evil that I ended and yet it persists within me. I would struggle to remove it now. I will not remove the silver from my flesh

because I have learned to depend on it. The fault is with my mind. I rely on the augmentation given to me by my metal gauntless, so much so that flesh beneath them is now little more than a distant memory. A day will come when I will strip it from me. lest I lose the power to master myself forever.

Already my legions warriors replaced their shield hands with metal in my honor, and so they too are learning to doubt the natural strength of their bodies. They must be weaned off this practice before it becomes a mania for them. Hatred of what is natural, of what is human, is the first and greatest of the corruptions. So I record it here.

When the time comes, I will strip my hands of their unnatural silver. I will instruct my legion to recant their distrust of the flesh. I will turn them away from the gifts of the machine and bid them relearn the mysteries of flesh, bone, and blood. When my father's crusade is over, this shall be my sacred task. When the fighting is done, I shall cure my legion and myself. For fighting is all there is, if we may never pause to reflect on what such devotion to strength is doing to us, then our compulsion will only grow. Oh. So no.

That's a good quote. He does not like his legion mutilating themselves and replacing their bodies with mechanics. He is not a fan. Yeah, it sounds like he thinks it's an illness. They are like mentally ill if they think that that's a good thing. God damn, Shire. It proves that Ferris Manus is such an ignored character. Even as in the universe's own legion doesn't care what he thinks.

Oh, it's true. Well, maybe he should have been a little bit more likable then. Yeah, you know, I do find it interesting that he doesn't like the necrodermis that he has and he wants to like rip it off because it's made him forget about his natural strength. I kind of like that idea. One would argue that too much reliance on something that is not your own is a weakness in its own right. That's true. That's true. Like he's using the silver as a crutch.

Yeah. And so he says that despite them being as powerful as they are, one day he'll remove it so that he can have mastery over his hands again. And as you can see in some of the photos that Shai posted, you could see either they are quite mechanical some of these space marines. Yeah. Yep. They have definitely, I bet the ad mech are big fans of some of these iron hands more big, big fans. Good God. If you are the kind of person who really likes dreadnoughts, vehicles, and just like this weird style of being toughness, like this is generally your faction.

If you are a tank heavy and dreadnought especially heavy person and you like those things a lot, it is absolutely this faction that you are the most happy with. Their main rule in game is called The Flesh is weak. So, yeah, guess what happens after Ferris? He goes in the Great Crusade. Guess who he meets? He meets Fulgrim. He meets Fulgrim, the Phoenix and the Gorgon. Hilariously, as we mentioned, the Fulgrim goes and talks to Sanguineas.

And the Senguinius is like, brother, this art is so beautiful. I love it. And Fulgram is like, another person who appreciates the arts and then Ferris comes in from behind is like, that's stupid. Art's stupid. Why would you care about art?

That's stupid. And then Fulgram laughed and called him a terrible Gorgon, which is why the name stuck. Which is just hilarious because he's from the planet Medusa, which is, you know, Gorgon. And he's a Gorgon, yep, yep.

So, yes, the Ferris, Manus, and Fulgram met and it was a good amount of kind of this little poking fun at one another. Ferris had this incredibly stern personality and Fulgram was always so joky and kind of would always poke at him like hey, hey opposites attract, right? Opposites attract

and then of course at one point Fulgroom went down to a forge and said that he was going to create the strongest weapon ever made and Ferris was like with your little baby boy hands You're a little, little pasty little baby boy hands. Little baby man with your baby hands. You're going to hurt your manicure, a little little baby boy? And of course, they go to each other. Both made a weapon to surpass one another.

Fulgrim making the Thunderhammer Forgebreaker and Manus making the sword fireblade. And they are both like, God damn, what you made is so much better than what I made. And then they swapped. And then they became friends. Yeah. And ever since then, unfortunately, most of this is are counted in the Folgram episode.

Yeah, that is. There's not a whole lot else past that. Ferris Manus goes on this major battle called the Diasporix persecution, which was them fighting some human and Xenos-aligned people, rebels. And of course, killing them all because that's the Great Crusade. We know what we do. Aliens die of the Great Crusade. And then, you know, Fulgrim gets the Learblade, starts to get a little bit funky, funky.

A little kooky crazy. More than normal. Yep, way more than normal. Horace begins to rebel and says, ooh, that fairest guy is going to be a real problem. Because, oh, he is, he is very strong. very calculated and he leads quite a few forces. Hey, Fulgram, you're friends with him, right? Go sway him.

And Ferris, of course, says, Oh my God, you absolute buffoon. I can't believe you would be so weak as to betray our father this fast. Yeah, I bet Ferris Manus was just none too happy about that. Yeah. Well, you're his, wow, Fulgram, your mind is so weak, Horace swayed you this fast.

and mercy is weakness. So he smashed the fire blade of Fulgrim to bits, knocking himself out, but Fulgroom couldn't bring himself to kill his brother and instead killed all of his Terminator guard instead and then left. Ferris, none too appreciative of this act, decided to be like, God damn it. Hey, hey, M, can we go kill all of,

can we go kill this death guard? And then can we also go kill these world eaters and sons of horse and emperor's children. He's like, go get him, champ. And he's like, sick. Get him, tiger. His cold personality was put at bay, replaced by this just like pure fury and anger.

Mm-hmm. And so he gets down to this beautiful place known as Isfon 5. And he's like, yay, the night lord's alpha legion word bears and iron warriors are here to back us. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They're eating her, and now they're going to eat me. Oh, no. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. And then he gets a little ahead of himself. Yeah, the showdown. And Fulgroom and Ferris fight. Ferris Manus's head is cut off by the Learablaid, moving with the power of the demon. And it rolls upon the ground. the Iron Hands Legion quite decimated by Isvon 5, and for the most part, is taken out of the Horace heresy, for the most part, due to this.

Which is great for Horace, because, yeah, they would have caused problems. Yes, and, and. Big problems. Let's see here. Read this. Shai said, 10,000 years later in the 41st millennium, a daemonette of Lanesh taunted Iron Hand Sergeant Name Morvaux

on Chardonniss claiming that had seen Manus's head and it is still screaming. Ooh. Cope, seethed, and mauled. Cope, seet and mold, get wrecked. Your primark is up. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, the only part of this story that I kind of wish was different is I wish that, I wish that Folgram had cut off Ferris Manus's head with the blade that Ferris Manus had made for Folgram. Just to add that little bit of extra, you know, it's like, this is the blade you made for me in, like, in friendship, you know, and they swapped weapons. And it was that blade that sliced his brother's head off instead of just...

I mean, the Learblade is very cool. But I don't know. I feel like it would have been more tragic if it had been the weapon that Ferris Manus had crafted himself, thinking it was the... strongest weapon ever. That was his undoing. Well, if I'm not mistaken, Fulgroom fought Ferris with the hammer.

Uh, or was it the hammer? Yeah, but the hammer didn't kill him. No, it didn't. I believe they actually fought each other with the opposite weapon. Like, I believe that uh,

fulgrim fought with the hammer and Ferris with the flaming blade. But then the, the blade that, yeah, did the final blow was the Learblade. Yeah, it should have been the, it should have been the,

the, the flaming blade. Also, I don't know why in this picture he has a wrench. Why does he have a big wrench? Yeah, he's got a big old wrench. Like he was like he was trying to fix something. He should have his, he should have his like big old thunderhammer, right?

I don't know. I don't think he's fighting with a wrench. It's very bizarre. All right. Whatever. That's case. Yeah. But yeah, like,

unfortunately that's kind of where Ferris's Manus' story ends. Oh, man. There is the one major situation. uh that comes along with the whole legion of the damned part um and i don't know if you remember this but in because i know master of mankind was not our favorite book that's an understatement but at the end of the in the webway battle the emperor did arrive with a uh like headless avatar that fought alongside him and people think that that's fairest because headless and it's not that bad of a concept no um that the headless avatar that he fought with and the battle of the webway

but at the same time it's you know there's a little bit of an unsure with the whole legion of the damn thing and all that stuff and what ferris has been up to yeah um it's i was gonna say like how else do you necessarily bring ferris manis back right because obviously they're gonna want to bring him back somehow, right? Because money, so they got to bring him back somehow. And I mean, do they? Well, I mean,

I guess they don't have to. Are they going to bring back sanguaneous? Haven't there been talks of that, though? And didn't we say that that would be a terrible idea for Blood Angels fans? But didn't someone think that that might actually happen? I mean,

everyone, someone, I think, either made a statement, and I don't think this is from the horse's mouth, but I think it was like heard down by someone by someone who worked at GW who said that every single Primark will come back in some way. And someone that's like said that at some point. But that's like five times removed like six degrees from Kevin Bacon. So I don't really know if that's true. But yeah, I don't think, I don't think much is going to kind of come from it.

If Ferris Manus comes back as like this headless horseman, Legion of the Dam thing, I wouldn't really... I wouldn't really hate it so long as it's used extremely sparingly. Yeah. Like, extremely sparingly. Mm-hmm. But at the same time,

it's really unfortunate because I don't have a whole lot more about Ferris to talk about right now. I mean, yeah. I don't know if Shy has much more either, but for the most part, to understand Ferris, it's, he's extremely cold, kind of a dick, thinks mercy is weakness, and tries to eradicate it everywhere he can.

He was buddy, buddy with Fulgram, and Fulgram killed him. And that's, I really don't got much else. Oh, well, Shai said people literally say that reading his own Primark book gives no effing info on him. Oh, yeah, there it is, Ferris Manus, the Gorgon of Medusa. Wow. I guess so. And I guess it's not that good. Okay, doke.

well, there you go, I guess. Ferris Manus, everyone. We did it. The reviews are not good. Because it probably gives no real information on the primark that it's supposed to. Cool. I wish, I genuinely wish I had more. And this is not like, this is just a G, I think just a GW thing.

there had to be someone to die during the heresy in order to give the heresy really good stakes outside of Sanguineas and Horace, of course. Of course, yeah, yeah. And, you know, like there had to be some casualties more than, you know, characters have to die because it's interesting. Yeah, it's the big war. It's the big heresy.

You can't just have Chaos take the fattest L ever and have no casualties whatsoever on the side of emperor except sanguineus as sacrifice. Like you've got to have more casualties than that, right? So I guess Ferris was just checked off. He feels like the character that makes... You know what he reminds me of? He reminds you of a character that's introduced in like a Marvel movie and then

is killed off in the same Marvel movie because they don't have the same... They don't have the balls to kill off like an actual character. Right, right, right. And it's really unfortunate because the Ironman. hand's are really cool, like, like looking all the mechanical bits and the tech marines and the dreadnoughts and... Oh, yeah, very cool. Like, you want to have like this army of cyborg space marines. Like, it's really dope.

And I think the iron hands are actually better than their prime mark. They're more interesting and they've become more interesting since his death. Yeah. Uh, but, yeah. Shy in all caps says, reviews on Gorgon and Medusa are literally saying, that his book, quote, gives good insight into emperor's children. Oh, wow. Even if you try to learn about Ferris Manus from his book, he's so boring and uncared about that it's like, you know what?

In his book, let's just write about the Empress children. They're the interesting part of this story anyway. Forget him. You know, in fairness. In fairness, it is lore accurate. for the Emperor's children to be stealing the spotlight. Yep. That is a very Emperor's Children thing to do.

Especially over Ferris Manus, that would probably make them so happy. Like, the Emperor's Children fans must love this book because it's just a slap in the face to Ferris Manus. Well, Emperor's Children fans, I don't think, hate Iron Hands. Yeah, they do. I don't know why they would. They were friends. No, they totally do.

No. Who are you? Shut, shut up. I love how seriously you took me. Who do you think you are? Who the, do you think you are to speak for all those people? That's always the line at the end of, in the middle of Guardians 2 when Chris Frat shoots his dad. It's like, who do you think you are?

It's a really good line, actually. You want to read this from Shai? Shai says, and to be fair, Es Manus, to be fair, Ferris wouldn't care. If someone was to write a book about him and ask him what he wants it to be about, he would say, write that shit about Fulgram.

He loves that stupid crap. That is exactly what he would say, actually. Yeah, probably. That is exactly what he would say. If they were like, Ferris Manus, a remembrance sort came up and was like, I would like to make a painting of you. He'd be like, go paint Singuineas and Fulgram.

They're the little, little, bitches like art and shit. I'm gonna get out of my way. Garbage. I need to go train. I need to go do tactics and important things. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's fair actually.

Get out of my way. Pushes him a little too fast and breaks his spine. And I was like, well, that sucks. He just breaks and half. Should have been stronger. Yeah,

I was really hoping that I would go into this and be like, the thoughts on fairest madness were wrong. And there, is one part that I was wrong about. He hates what his Legion has become. Or he would hate what his Legion has become. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. If he was still alive, he would be very upset with what they've turned into. But besides that, I was really hoping for to be wrong to be like, okay, this is what they, because you know, I was thinking of like Per Chirabo. When I remember Per Chirabo is like,

he's a petulant man child. I'm like, all right, let's learn about Port Chirabo. And I was like, okay, no, he absolutely is, but I kind of love him. Yeah, at the same time. This is exactly what I thought I was going to get, or exactly what I've been told, and it's unfortunately rather disappointing. I'm sorry, Iron Hands fans, but... It is what it is what it is.

Your Legion is substantially more interesting than your Primark. You know, and I think Iron Hands fans are okay with that, because I'm like, well, yeah, maybe Ferris Manus is boring, but look at our sick army. Look at how cool our stuff is. whatever. Ferris Manus sucks. Fine. But look at the wealth of cool that we've got. So it's a fair trade. It depends.

I have a buddy who plays Iron Hands and he makes his thing called Sons and Medusa. They're all green and stuff. It's very cool. But, you know, in game, they've got great rules. They have broken the game multiple times because of how hard they just gun you down. But, you know, it is what it is. It is what it is. It is what it is. So that's that. Thanks for listening to everybody.

I apologize that it was not as fancy as I would have liked. But next week... Also not a short episode, by the way. No, it wasn't a short episode. Yeah, longer than the short episode we were supposed to have last time, actually. But next week, we will be talking about the iron hands themselves. And God damn, did we try this episode? Yeah.

We sure did. We tried. But next week, it'll be the Iron Hands ones, and it should actually be a bit more interesting and a little bit more like, huh, huh, going on. Interesting, yeah, a little chin scratcher. Yeah, indeed. Well, there's not much of a chin to scratch anymore. Well, yeah, Ferris ain't going to be scratching that chin, yeah. I pressed the wrong soundboard button.

Well, I, for some reason, when you press that button, I just imagine Ferris's head being blown off by a reverb fart. No, don't I look All these, All these loyalist legions are here To back us up on us van five Turns around