Adeptus Ridiculous - FLESH TEARERS: They're good guys! Sort of | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

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this isn't morally gray. Morally gray is whatever the topic we have today is after last weeks. Oh, boy. I don't think anything's going to be gray after that. I think everything is going to seem light and sunshine and rainbows after, you know. I can't believe that I am sitting here and saying, War of the Beast was not the worst part of 2025. There was a late entry right at the end to just, you know,

to just sort of take the top spot. It was, I mean, look, it wasn't good that series of books. Correct. And then it turns out that actually, over the grand scope of, you know, Warhammer fiction, there are, there's more than one stinker in there, you know? There's more than one. And we, I think, I think really we got the original terrible trilogy, which on the upside, just think about it this way,

it means never have to do that again for those specific books. I'm sure there's bad books that we will indeed cover in the future, but those specific ones, they're gone. You can just forget they ever happened, except no, you can't because I made you read all of the quotes, and that will be with you forever now. So sorry, and for the audience, you're welcome. So foreshadowing is a literary device.

However, I don't think this is foreshadowing, but it sure feels like it. Yeah. It feels like it for those who come after moment. Look, I'll say right now, this is nowhere near the level of pain that you experienced last week. Because it's, we're not torturing you. We actually aren't. I almost feel like in order for this episode to have the correct level of energy and for you to be happy to even start it proper, I need to lay out, don't worry.

We're not doing war with the beast. Again, although for a minute, I do think that would be quite funny to open with that quote. We're also not doing anything Ian related. We're back to a standard, a baseline, a normal, bit of informative and fun chat about something that we like. Okay? So you don't need to worry. There's no paranoia. We're all good.

Okay. I don't fucking trust you. I don't either. You're saying it in like a realm that just doesn't, I just doesn't. don't trust it. I don't know why. Yeah. Well, you were like, oh, don't, don't worry, guys, you won't feel as much pain and torture as last time. I'm like, that still suggests pain and torture, brothers. I don't know if you know that, but you're still, you're still putting out there that you're going to make us suffer to some degree. I mean, you specifically are going

to suffer at least a little bit, because you've got to have a go at guessing the quote, which, you know, historically has not gone well. But honestly, I thought you were just going to go for the existential dread of like, oh yeah, all of our existence is coming to an end someday and we'll all turn to dust and the sun will supernova and the earth will be reduced to nothing but space dust and I was like, great, what a way to start my Monday. But no, give me a

question to acceptable, no, so here is the mystery quote. I like that I can't even be reassuring anymore. The level of trust is just degraded so badly. So let's just do the quote and then we'll go from there and you'll see eventually, hopefully, that it wasn't that bad. Men

crave food. They crave flesh. They crave power. We are not men, the emperor's angels. His space marines crave honor, they crave retribution, they crave justice. We are not angels. We crave only violence, bloodshed. Hmm. That could very easily be like some chaos shenanigans, except they explicitly say like, you know, emperors angels and stuff. The flesh eaters. You're so close. Blood angels. You were, okay. Flesh terrors.

There you go. You've got it. Yes. I got the last name wrong. My bad. I was thinking, this sounds like blood angels. But this sounds, but we've done all of that. Who is like that?

And oh yeah, the flesh terrors. The flesh terrors. The friendliest, most approachable of space marine chapters. I don't know. I don't know what your problem with them is. They are absolutely lovely, sort of. Yeah. I'll be honest, I thought he said flesh eaters as like a, just a joke version of the name the flesh terrors, because really, there's only one way to go for that that makes it worse. And I thought that's what you were going for. But you know what? I'll take that as a first guess. A misremembering of a single word? We can, we can tell that as a first guess. I mean, I misremember whole words often. So, like, this. This is perfect for me. You're right. We're going to be talking about the flesh terrors because they are, frankly, quality.

So the horrors are in the past and nature is healing. You know it's a good day when possum can kind of talk about vampires. So today we're going to cover the flesh terrors. The flesh terrors are actually one of the oldest chapters of space marines in the history of 40K and are notably included in the rogue trader era as one of the original 12 chapters color scheme wise. They're a bit of a darker version of the Blood Angels proper, but this expands beyond just their look.

Also, the fact that they're that old is rad and another reason to just love them. Can I ask a quick question? So, is this flesh tears like, we're the terrors of flesh, or are they ripping and tearing flesh? Ripping and tearing. Ah, okey-doke.

I don't know why in my brain, I was like, It could be either one. No, it's a legit question. It's Ripin' Taryn. No, flesh terrors is a really fun faction. If you ever want to play that game where you are like imperial or loyalist, you know, and you're like, which of these chapters is this one? And then you go to the flesh terrors and you're like, oh, well, clearly chaos.

Gotta be chaos. Yeah, but no, they're, um, what is it? I don't know why the word is escaping me right now, but it tends to. They're a successful chapter of the blood angels. Oh, yeah. It's that fun thing of backwater planet. They know that space moons are coming. They know that the Empress children, the flesh terrors are on the way.

They most likely would be kind of surprised to discover which of those is out to do them serious harm. And then, to be fair, once the flesh terror has arrived, they would also probably be surprised to find that they also do them serious harm, but didn't really. mean to. Yeah. The fleshed areas have suffered greatly for millennia due to a corruption in their genes seed, making them more susceptible to the greatest flaws of

any son of Sanguineus, the red thirst, and the black rage. One minute, you're going to have to explain this to me, probably. One minute, they'll be smoking submersibles in the Mariana trench, and then suddenly the worms are back. That's a Dracula flow reference.

Yeah, I was going to has Dracula flow, brother. Okay, Dracula flow reference, my friend. I've watched... I went and watched all of those, but it was such an onslaught that I can't remember all of it.

Yes, it's like watching a modern day Xavier Renegade Angel. It's too much. It's too much for the brain. I appreciated it at the time, but really it sort of washed over me like some sort of extremely black tar. So, despite,

their devilish name, the flesh terrorists have proven their angelic worth by fighting violently for the honour of their gene father and for the sake of the Imperium as a whole. Though their numbers are thin, and by thin we're talking less than 400 total, they choose to fight to make a strong name for themselves, knowing full well that the inevitability of their gene defect will take them down. So we're going to go over their chapter history, disposition, and some of their more recent history. Which, by the way, means we need to go back to the Horus heresy, because the flesh terrors go way back. And we're going to start with Nasir Amit, who is the flesh terror.

The origin of the name. That's a name and a half. Holy. It really is. In the context of the blood angels as well back then, good lord. So he's one of the first members of what would become known as the blood angels, and he was particularly brutal from a young age. was born of a rather violent and semi-mutated bloodline on the planet of Boatia, and during this time the Legion was known as the Revenant Legion, and they had something of reputation for more barbaric activities. When Sanguania's was found and the Revenant Legion was reformed into the

Blood Angels, most of the members would sort of chill out a bit, but Amit did not do this, and would just retain much of the initial barbarism that the Legion had. He would also enjoy partitions. in the gladiator pits of the world eaters, and he became good friends slash chain brothers with the man he was most frequently paired with, which was the world eater known as Cargos blood spitter. Amazing man. Oh, I...

Do I know Cargoss? That guy sounds familiar. He was an apothecary, if I remember, right? Cargoss. Oh, wow. Funnily, had issues with the names. I guess Space Marine Apothecaries or, yeah, if you're in the world eaters, yeah.

Even the apothecare is going to be like, oh, yeah, I'll take some time. Oh, he probably was in Betrayer or something like that. Maybe. Oh, maybe. Cargoss sounds familiar, yeah. So, I don't know, maybe there was something around there with that one. But yeah, okay.

I think I remember him a little bit. I think you're right. I think he just show up in Betrayer. Yeah. I think he's one of the ones that was for a while there, mostly keeping hold of his, his, well, just his shit. But, you know, it's world eaters.

So inevitably, they all lose it in the end. Shai said next, Kargoss was part of the horde that assailed the eternity gate during the battle. He nearly slew Arkinland, killing his pet cyber monkey, Sapien? Damn, he almost kills Arkandland, but kills a monkey.

Meanwhile, Karn doesn't know what the hell he's doing and kills Janitia Kroll. Make it make sense. what the the Chad Khan the Betrayer versus the Virgin Cargast Hell yeah

Nasir Amit though he would become the captain of the fifth company of the Blood Angels during the events of the Great Crusade Among all the companies the fifth rose to infamy fairly quickly and this was due to the aggression and bloodlust of Amit

himself who would earn the nickname of flesh terror. The men under him would be known to carry both a bolter in one hand and a flaying knife in the other. Nothing to see here, uh, Corn. Just look the other way, please. Yeah, I'm sure corn actually loves them. I mean, you can't, you can't go into battle as a, as a, you know, a loyalist space marine carrying a flaying knife.

It literally exists to just take people's skin off. Why are you carrying that? What is wrong with you? That sounds like something the 30K night lords would do. Something like they would have. 100%. Clearly. Why is this space marine in the Photoshop sound?

Look like a Hills Have Eyes character. Because he's carrying around a knife designed to take people's skin off. That's why. That's a chain sword. Yeah. Knife is a gross understatement, but I do understand what's in that picture. I mean, yeah. I mean, the chain sword will do it.

That will 100% flay some fucking flesh, but that is not specifically a flesh, sir. Yeah, true, that'll tear some flesh. So the members of the, of the Legion, would carry a reputation with them that would expand outward from the blood angels, and those who encountered them would get a taste of their Interesting tactics. The brutality of Amit was complimented by his honesty. So when the Council of Nikea was called, Sanguinius ordered that Nassia stay in his personal quarters

until the proceedings were done. Both he and Sanguinius were very much in the librarians a great actually camp, and Amit assumed that the reason that he was told to wait was because he would 100% try to argue against the emperor, which, to be fair, is absolutely something that he would have done. Yeah, he would have gotten absolutely slaughtered for it. It goes great, just, you know, casually arguing with the leader of all humanity. When you're a nutter carrying a fling knife.

Yeah. In my opinion, you know, someone who likes to flay people on the move, you're wrong. I'm sorry, what? Fortunately for Amit, the first captain of the Blood Angels Raldron came in first, giving Amit someone to yell out. He promptly freaked out about the emperor to him, and he believed that the decision was wrong, and he questioned the ease of merging the psychers back into the regular ranks of the Astartes. Before he could get even more heretical, Sanguinius entered the room and reassured Amit that this was not his preferred outcome either,

but the word of his own father was law, and they all needed to accept it in an unwavering way, and that the librarians would in fact be able to seamlessly integrate within the Legion without issue. press what is it press extra doubt um yeah don't know that went well for any of them did it very good curiath very good now bonus points if you can tell me what game that's from oh oh oh no is it from one of the mafia games or am i nope no no close no oh god damn is it though it's a little close it's it's a little close the the the style is similar that's LA Noir yeah

yeah as soon as as soon as as as soon as as I put that and I was like I did know that admittedly

I think I only know that from watching Achievement Hunter play it which again makes me feel like I might die of old age

any day now but I know I knew that once shy told me the answer I knew you know

I mean I can't I can't say the reference I want to say from L.A. Nour Oh. There's a particular accusation you can do to a guy and it's really out of pocket.

I say all this, but I've never actually played L.A. Noir. I'll send a clip later. Gotcha. Thanks. It's going to be bad. I just know it. So Amit would, of course, fight valiantly for the sake of his father and the fighting would result in numerous joint missions with other legions. A notable campaign would bring them to the Cygnus cluster at the behest of Warmaster Horus. The campaign would see the Blood Angels attempt to cleanse about half a dozen worlds and 15 moons. There were human settlers there and they needed to be rescued from a Zenos threat.

And they were to be accompanied by the word bearers. Alarm claxons here and the space walls also showed up. Yay. They were also there. Yeah. Although I think this is. was around the time where the space walls were shadowing all the various, all the various primarks just on the off chance.

I think that's around the timeline for that. So there was space walls all over the gath. I have a very important news. You must all click this link so we may watch this L.A. Nour clip together. Oh, God. All right. So tell us about this kid, Gabriel. You had a run-in with him?

Mechanico. A presumptuous young man who did not know his place, he presumed to ask me questions. We do a lot of presuming here in the United States, Consul General. It comes with the turf. You fuck young boys, Valdez. Are you a madman? Jesus, crap. I came out of a new way.

Jesus. Oh, my God. It's just, what? Oh, he never, it never gets sold. Holy hell.

Wow. What the, like that's just, oh, good cop, bad cop accused, and it's just at a, like,

the actual accusation just comes out of left. What the hell? The, the con, the con to full grim in that one scene. Yeah. It's 100%. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, why not put that in the episode? Shai, screw it, it's funny. It's good stuff. Sure. Listen, we haven't detoured much this episode yet so far. I had to make up for lost time or gained time, I suppose. Anyway, we can continue with the flesh tears. I actually need myself several times because I've blown the mic out of their coughing.

Jesus. That is mental. That is crazy Straight Just straight in There was no padding on that one Just straight in as a brazen as you possibly can be God damn

Okay It was unknown to the Blood Angels at the time That Valdez did indeed Like it, no It was unknown to the Blood Angels at the time That the Cygnus cluster was not prey to Xenos But actually it was chaos all along And this was a trap devised by Horace

to corrupt Sanguinius and his sons. But, because Sanguinius loved his dad, he followed Horace's request without question, as that's what Big E would have wanted. Upon arrival in the system, the blood angels were immediately attacked by warp monstrosities. The terror of the warp did a remarkable amount of damage by killing almost all of the navigators and astropaths they had,

leaving them blind and confused. Oh, that's bad. just what you want getting into a new system or your navigation. Losing every means of transportation and navigation you have. Yeah, great. Ideal situation indeed, Karioth. What was the phrase possible use? I was getting a new GPS for finding a new navigator, wasn't it?

Because the previous one was covered in his own excrement. All their GPS went out, bad times. Yeah, but my GPS doesn't scream. I bet there's Or potentially open portals. Yeah. It also doesn't potentially open up portals to the warp when it goes insane and let demons out. That is also true.

That's an expensive bit of deal with a T to make it do that. You can get around without a GPS if you just, you know, know the area and not really the case with like, you know, warp travel. You have clearly never experienced my sense of. direction because what you've just said is not true. Listen, listen, let's just do the old school way. Okay,

let's print out a 10-page thing of map quest. Oh, no, and try to fiddle with it while you're driving. Yeah, mount a clipboard to the dash, and then you can just turn the page as you go. So the attempts to liberate this cluster continued,

but Amit became increasingly suspicious of the nature of these attacks. It seemed a bit too convenient that these forces just happened to be here where Zenos should have been. During the liberation efforts, the Red Tia, which is Sanguinius' personal flagship, crashed into the central planet of Cygnus Prime. The circumstances of this crash were due to the spreading of madness across the ship that had resonated out from the surface of the planet. The commanding officer of the ship, in the midst of her insanity, simply piloted the ship into the world. The final straw

Look, she wasn't having a good day, all right? It's not her fault. Chaos makes you do weird stuff. I believe that was the understatement of like the year that she was not having a good day, but all right, go on. The final straw on the whole suspicion aspect of this attempt to crusade was the sudden departure of the word bearer's ship, the dark page,

whilst the red tear was crashing. Really, this is a mild tangent. I love the name of word bearish stuff. I was going to say exactly that thing, like the black page or the dark page or whatever is such a word bearish ship name. It really is. It's also inherently suspicious as hell.

Why would you name a ship that? That's true. I guess they haven't officially gone traitor yet, have they? They're not officially at this point, rogue, I don't think. I don't think, I'll be honest. It's been a while since I read this part of the Horace heresy. And frankly, after a certain point, the timeline of those books gets somewhat confusing. You mean when they, you finish like a trilogy within the 50 books and then it goes back to another point in time on the next trilogy and it happens next time again and again and again.

Yeah. Yeah. It can cause some issues trying to keep track of when you are. But I don't know if they're fully out and out with their heresy at this point. But all their stuff sounds great. But in the context of looking back, it's like, how did anyone trust these people? Well, this is our ship, the knife in the spine. Oh, I can't believe they turn traitor. Knife in the spine is a very good night lord's ship. That's true. Yeah, night lords, night lords jumping up in the knife and the spine is like,

oh, yeah, that's business as usual. That's their thing. Yeah, okay, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Here's, here's the brand new word bearer ship. The burning of the truth.

It's like, oh, okay. Here's our ship, Judas is Ascarian. Yeah. All right, where it bears on you go. It all looks good to me. I don't see what the issue is.

So Sanguinius would call a meeting of the Council of Angels to discuss the incident and talk about next steps. During this meeting, Amit would speak freely and loudly because he's a boss. He didn't understand why they called these things they were facing abominations and not what they actually are, which is demons. Everyone got a bit antsy about him talking like this, and even Sanguineas tried to tell him that he'd made his point. But Amit cut him off, saying that he hadn't yet made his point. And he stated that this was clearly a trap. A statement that made Sanguineus tense. Amit asked, hypothetically, who was it that sent them here in the first place?

You know what, D.K., you're up. Oh, wow. "'Choose your next words carefully,' said the primark, becoming very still. The captain gave a grunt of humorless laughter. "'You know that is not my way, master. I must say what I believe, and I believe the warmaster sent us here with a lie on his lips, with knowledge of what he—' Gold armor flashed like lightning, and Maris recoiled at the crackling shock of metal on

Saramite. The deep rush of white wings snapped against the air. Suddenly, Amit was sprawled in the hull with a new impact crater on his care-worn armor and sanguine standing over him. The angel moved so far, knocking Amit down with the pommel of his great sword. The red blade now came about in the Primark's hands and the tip rested upon the captain's bared throat. You will beg for forgiveness for casting such aspersions on my brother Horace, He spat, and then I will cut this armor from you and mark you for punishment. I will not, Amit managed, blood flecking his lips, his full measure of courage spent in that moment.

Yeah, you know, in like in this period of time, saying that shit about Horace will absolutely get you obliterated. Like, just ask Garrow how it went when he told Dorn of like it actually happening, right? Oh, this was not the time to be raising suspicions against the primarks, except it absolutely was, because a significant chunk of them were being incredibly suspicious. I hate to say as well, I do sort of agree with the shy. The reading of I Will Not was a bit like my nine-year-old having a time. Well, in all fairness, he just got absolutely bodied. like man's in shambles. Like he has a new impact crater in his armor.

He's not going to be coming back being like, I will not. Like that man is a beaten child at this point. And that's sanguineas that just absolutely worked. He pushed his shit so far in. He's spitting brown. Like, I don't know. I've never heard that phrase before.

Christy. I just made it up. It's madness. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Anyway, these are the decisions I have made in one. I really want. And this is not feasible because it would be saying like not enough people would buy it

and it would take so much effort on behalf of a really good artist. I want a beautiful Sistine Chapel-esque poster of, of sanguinius standing over Amit with the sword at his throat and then underneath in beautiful cursive script simply man's in shambles I really want that on a poster I would buy it and I would put it on the wall proudly that would be great

that man got absolutely dominated crazy actually I got a better idea for you Kyriath here we take a photo We take a lovely artistic rendition of anger on post, you know, like, or maybe like either nails or post demonic, depends. And then just beneath it in full like bloody red text, like it's like a blood drawn thing.

It just says full of beans. Okay, no, I want that. I want that. I would absolutely purchase that and hang it in my room. Yeah, 100%. Oh, God. Oh dear. Okay. So there's an interjection from Hellic Redknife of, you guessed it, the space wolves, which saved Amit. He stated to Sanguineus that Magnus had violated the edict of Nikea and that corruption was among the legions and that the demons they faced on the battlefield knew the name of Sanguinius already. I mean, at this point it does make you wonder, should you perhaps have said something earlier than now? But we won't get it. into that because that could lead to us just, you know, point by point deconstructing the entire

series, which we frankly, it would be a life's work at this stage, several lives worth, and it would take a long... I'm out of effect for a book, right? Yeah. He didn't want to spit brown. Jesus. Okay. Despite this information, the battle for the system would continue on Cygnus Prime itself.

On the surface, Sanguinius would encounter Cabander. big old, big old bloodthirster. And they're, yeah, had a fight with him. I think Cabander broke his legs, if I remember correctly. And their fight would result in the Primark's suffering a wound. If I remember right, yes, I would class his legs being broken as suffering a wound. Because obviously. Just something about the Primar guess.

Ah, he broke both legs. As a wound. Like, what? That's literally. handicapped him. Merely an inconvenience. He'll give me three days and I'll be all right. And I guess he's got wings so like what do you need legs for but like still?

Oh God. So the impact of this wound would shake the Legion, understandably, and it would trigger the red thirst in many of them. Particularly, and you'll be shocked to learn this, particularly the fifth company and Amit. So blinded by the impact of the Red Thirst, Amit and his company would go into a violent frenzy, resulting in them killing Hellic Redknife and his company of Space Wolves. When he came to Amit was filled with dread and horror, and immediately reported himself to first Captain Raulteron to accept punishment for this crime.

However, he was told by both Raulteron and Askeleon of the Sanguinary Guard that they had already told Sanguinius what happened, but not truthfully. The truth they feared would cause further division in the Astardis during an already questionable time. Sanguinius was noble and honest, and the impact of this would cause him great despair and result in him telling Lehman Rus what happened, likely causing them to come to blows, when what they needed right now was unity. And I feel like Lehman Rus and the Space Wars would immediately just show up and be like, hello, we're going to kill you all now.

Sorry, but then's the rules, tough shit, etc. they would at very least want to kill um amit and the flesh tears at the least a hundred percent yeah absolutely pay no attention to the unit pay no attention to these wolf and ignore those we don't talk about them it's fine um amit asked how he was supposed to ease the pain and he was told by eschallion that it was a burden that he would have to hold on to and bear through. A nice, like, foreshadowing for Dante being the oldest space marie ever, and not being allowed to just die and stop shoulder responsibility his entire hundreds of years long life there. And Amit would do his best, but his aggression in general would remain,

so much so that during the Battle of Pyrrion, Sanguineus would beg for Amit to control his emotions. Oh, yeah, calm down. You know, it's always worked with my girlfriends, too, you know. Everyone knows just saying calm down, sorts it all out. Yeah, it makes things much easier. Well, when it's coming from sanguineas, like best boy, it's a little different, right? Yeah, yeah, no, that's so true. So anyway, by the way, you know, I'm single now, so anyone out there interested.

What a great time to put that out into the ether, eh? If you two would like to be told to calm down, simply creeped out using the contact form below. Now, as we all know, the heresy was in full swing at this point, and it would come down to the siege of terror itself. Nassir Amit was involved in the defence of the inner palace during the early stages, and during this conflict, he would once again encounter his old chamber of the world eaters. they had a nice reunion, which, you know what? There you go. Bricky, you can have this one. Yib-be!

The nails are silent in Kargoss's mind, and so is the war all around him. Amit, he says, my brother. And Amit, the flesh terror, his arena partner for years, his own chain brother, spits on his broken face and cuts his throat. Eat shit, traitor. This didn't kill him. believe it or not. Later, he would encounter Cargos again while offending the eternity gate.

Guess what he said to him? Eye to eye face to face. It is the most intimate moment of Cargos's life, a moment of intimacy without sensuality. The two of them joined by the impaling blade and everything slows down. I told you, Amit breathes to eat shit, traitor. The blood angel moves away. Cargos doesn't give chase. his legs fail.

You know, I always, I gotta be honest. It's very bizarre whenever they use like modern day human expressions like that, as opposed to 40K expressions. Because normally I'm so used to them being like, ah, fething, fethers, carkin, this, this and that. So whenever they're like, your cock is small, word bearer, eat shit. It just sounds odd sometimes. Yeah, you expect them.

to really like jizz it up and be like tonight you dying on your own excrement right or some shit like that and yeah that is exactly what it sounds like you're correct i was i was just a casual eat shit brother you know in the in the in the shutterboker dLC for mass effect there's a um a little excerpt with morden and uh captain kirrihi the STG and it's like a recounting of it and most of it involves morden telling kurehi that his face resembles a cloaca And I, every time I, I think about that a lot, what I think about, when I think about, like, Warhammer insults. Normally, it's like, your mother dines with prostitutiums. Ha ha, and then, like, runs away.

And then you've got nasty around it. Eat shit, traitor. That's it. That's all it is. Me rolling six dev wounds against world eaters. Each shit reader. I mean, I just like the idea that each shit is such a good phrase that it's survived however many, you know, thousands and thousands of years. Look, there's been changes to the language, but the fact is, no matter where you are in history, you tell someone to eat shit, they know what you mean.

It's an eternal comment. Mark off your bingo cards for Bricky bringing up the Night Lord's trilogy, but. But I always remember one thing that too. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's true. We're really nailing them down quickly. I always remember something I appreciated about, about ADB's writing with that series, was that whenever the actual Marines would insult each other, it was normally like,

normally like kind of gang speak and things like that. And somebody's a little bit more, not formal, but like funny 40K speak. But then when any of the human characters, like septimists and stuff, we're talking, they kind of loosened the language a little bit. You know, they're talking about like the night lords saw their victims in their own excrement. And then Septimus would be like, it smelled like shit in here. You know, it kind of has like a... Yeah.

They kind of change up the verbiage, which I think is kind of a neat little touch. Hell yeah. So during the height of the conflict, Amit will become overwhelmed with the nature of this fight and would openly weep. Men showing their emotions, not a bad thing. He would consider the weight of what Sanguineus did by the closure of the Eternity Gate is something apocalyptic, but something that his gene father did with honour and love for his sons. As the gate sealed, Amit was one of the last inside, and he saw what pain the sanguineus encountered in doing so. He saw him covered with brutal wounds and irreparable armour.

The sight of his lord wounded, closing eternity broke him. As the closure of that was essentially admitting some forms of acceptance of the end and the fate that faces them all. The pain of the sacrifice of others, the loss of life, and the pain his legion faced terrorized him. This pain would be fully realized upon the death of Sanguinius, and Amit, along with the rest of the blood angels, would immediately succumb to the black rage. Most of the angels would have a terrible time during this, but Amit would be significantly impacted. He went on an unspeakable rampage, wiping out an incredible amount of loyalists. Not okay for mental men to go on a killing spree when they're having an emotional moment.

And at the end of this, Odi Sartak, a lone wolf of the space walls, found Amos in a sea of blood and corpses, inconsolable with grief and horror. Mondays, am I right? Yeah, that's definitely, that's, oh boy, I definitely got, I mean, I guess it's the black rage, but it's like, God damn. The thing is even with the black rage, you've got to be very good. at killing things to not have someone take you out whilst you're murdering hundreds of your allies, you know?

Does the Black Rates just enrage you, or does it give you, like, a power bump? I think it just enrages you, but it makes you so hyper-focused on the, like, the art of combat, if you will, that there's no other consideration. It's just new target dead, new target dead, new target dead, until someone removes your brain. Or something, something, something, something. man with nothing to lose, you know? Yeah. So yeah, poor old

damn it. He kills a lot of people that ostensibly were on his side. But the thing is, this sort of thing cannot go unpunished. You can't just get away with this stuff, which is why he became a chapter

master of the flesh terriers during the second founding. I'm honestly not sure why it was just decided that it happens. Would you like your own chapter? But that's what happened. That was his punishment? No, there was no punishment.

Oh, okay. I thought you were like, yes, he was punished. Now he has to be a chapter master of the flesh tears. And it's like, wait a minute, that's a goddamn promotion. What do you? This is one of those things where it sort of feels like the internal logic of the world takes a, small break to deal with the fact that the flesh terrors were always a thing and they needed a really good origin for it because I'd have thought, you know, butchering a bunch of loyalists

would be looked down on? Yeah, and a bunch of blood angels too, right? Like, a bunch of his brothers. You wouldn't think you'd want that as a chapter master. Yeah, but all the legions had to be broken up. So, you know, that guy's good at killing. Look how many of our people he killed. He must be great at it.

Let's put him in charge. I don't know. That's one of those things where it feels like there are certain gaps that had to be bridged. Then again, you know what? After the attack on terror, the emperor is all mangled. Malkador's dead. The internal powers of the Imperium are all knackered. I feel like maybe actually I'm being harsh.

And that, to be honest, most of the people still in charge and able to make these decisions pretty much probably just went okay let's divide them up and then get them the fuck away from us because look at this mess that's just true you know what you can all splinter off go and deal with all the nonsense out there

do not come back here unless you're in imperial fists because you're boring enough for us to cope with you everyone else just leave just go get out Just get all the problem childs, throw them in a ship and just send them off to some corner of the galaxy never to be seen again. It does kind of feel a little bit like that, which is maybe uncharitable, but he's also maybe more charitable than the idea of, we have a bunch of guys here who butchered our own side and one of them ends up chaptermaster, which just seems like a weird way for things to go. Anyway, so at the conclusion of the Horace heresy, the chapters would be split, and this split would see Amnambi.

him become a chaptermaster of the second founding, and his chapter would be called the flesh terrors, named after his own personal history, some of it very recent, as we've just learned, and both as a blood angel and now as a flesh terror, Amit was known to wear a piece of artifice armor that was notably in bad shape. He took every piece of damage done to him as proof of his own might, and he would wear this damaged armor to even formal events, much to the dismay of those around him. The armor, after his fate would become a relic that would see no further wear along with the subsequent piece of armour that he would start rocking,

because once he was promoted to chaptermaster, he would wear Terminator armour, but he would be the only master of the flesh terrorists to do so. Those who succeeded him would view the Terminator Armory War as a type of mental prison that forced the wearer into really leaning into bloodshed, and it was borderline haunted. great

sick Jesus all right there is a very good bit of art of him in the in the Terminator armor just above the

daddy chill gif oh yeah let me double check that oh yeah that is above the daddy chill gift you're right and it is very sick armor of him in Terminator plate he looks like yeah

that looks like a guy that'll tear some flesh. How come, how come, dadless, you have two chain fists? He didn't. You've got to be able to tear as much flesh as possible.

Also, the logo is a very good logo. Like, I actually really like their chapter. Oh, yeah, the buzz saw with the red tier. Yeah, or blood drop or whatever,

you know. It's also incredibly non-suttle. When you look at some of the other logo, that are out there and other chapter insignia there's some sort of symbolic meaning towards it. The flesh terrace literally just have a, like, a bustle blade.

Yeah. I wonder what they're after. They're not trying to pretend about anything. Wow, guys, it's really cool how you got those abstract splashes on your armor. And they're just like, what? I know writers who use subtext,

et cetera, et cetera, yada, I was literally about to pull up the gift for that. So Amit would leave terror with his flesh terrors with a single battle barge called the Victus, and they were ordered to work almost as an extermination force, as well as a crusading force. After several millennia, they would make their way to the planet of Cretacea to conquer it in the name of the Imperium, but there was some sort of energy from this planet that deeply influenced Amit. Cretacea was, to put it buttly, a death world. The atmosphere was dense, the flora and fauna were hostile and huge,

and the task of conquering it was monumental. As they did so, though, they managed to find tribes of feral humans that somehow had adapted to the harsh surface. From here, Amit's curiosity turned into an obsession. An obsession, Jesus. This world was the perfect embodiment of the flesh terrorists, and he would state that it was their duty to conquer it and claim it as their home world.

The feral humans would serve as future recruits into their ranks due to their ability to survive such horrific environments and the surface would act as a right of passage for those who would call themselves a flesh terror. Amit would never return to sanity after the claiming of this world and would vanish, though many years later a piece of him would return, which we will come back to in a little bit. Oh, so he just... They just conquer this planet

and he just kind of disappears into time, never to be seen again, his Terminator plate lost and just, meh. Pretty much, he sort of lost his shit and disappeared. Huh. Not what I was expecting for his end.

Just what you want out of a chapter master of bloodthirsty. Yeah, it's fine. Don't worry about it. That's fine. So from this point on, we're going to move forward a bit to more recent flesh terrors history. So out of all the Sons of San Guineas, the gene seed of the flesh terrors is particularly messed up. They suffer from a mutation that makes them far more susceptible to the Red Thirst and the Black Rage than any other successor chapter. This has happened so many times under the command of Amit and their current chapter master Gabriel Seth,

that they have become almost entirely isolated, and their numbers are in a constant state of depletion. Notably, one of the causes of this could be due to the fact that the flesh terrors do not utilise the process of ensangination. They're just raw-dogging vampire blood, and it's a bit of a problem for them and everyone around them. As a means to stave this off, the flesh terrors will quite frequently drink blood during and after battle,

and they need a lot of it, so much so that they have a little farm on Cretacea and the things in the farm are humans and much like a dairy farm, they have a consistent supply of blood that is produced on their home world and kept in storage so they can have it on the go.

That's not great. Love that one. Big fan of that. Yeah, don't love my loyalist space rain angels with a human blood farm. Speak for yourself, man. This rocks. That's so fucking metal.

Just normal loyalist space marine stuff. As you've probably worked out, the flesh terrors are a force that is remarkably small, but also remarkably violent, as if the name wasn't enough. You say their logos are buzzed, aye? Who'd have known it? Who'd have thought? I found the flaying knife. I mean, for God's sake. That's just...

That's a hatchet and two swords, man. I didn't have a fucking knife. Oh, dear. So their love for bloodshed and violence means that their tactics are designed for maximum speed and maximum devastation. They have a large, large number of assault marines compared to other. chapters and their death company acts as a standing force in their lines. The smaller number of flesh terrors has resulted in the majority of them being able to wear multiple hats and do multiple things. Most Marines are proficient in various squad roles, so tactical devastator and

assault, and can mix and match depending on the nature of battle. Of course, low numbers also means a dramatically low number of vehicles, with an exception, which is the death company dreadnought, of which there are many. Yeah, I bet. Just a few. This shouldn't be a surprise, but the flesh terrors have a notably higher number of apothecaries compared to most other chapters

so that they can somewhat work through the gene seed issues as best as possible, instead of trying to do something to prevent that whole mess. Now, as we mentioned earlier, a lot of other chapters really don't like working alongside the flesh terrors. Their proclivity to violence makes them a bit unpredictable, and the knowledge that they can go AWOL at the drop of a hat is a big fear. A particularly bad incident that earned them infamy took place on the world of Callum. They were sent there alongside the Doom Eagles, which is an

ultramarine successor chapter. The planet was facing it a crisis, courtesy of the deployment of terror weapons on the population. The arrival of the flesh terrorists was violent. They fought against the terror weapons and anyone or anything that stood in their way. The weapons were ultimately destroyed, but so were millions of imperial innocence as well as the Doom Eagles that showed up to help. Ah, millions as child's play. They probably got that many on the farm. It's fine.

Yeah, and the Ultramarines, how many successor chapters they got? They've got like 20 million. It's a couple blueberries. You got to break a, you know, you can't make it. an omelet without breaking a few eggs, it's fine. For some reason, I thought you were going to say, you can't make an omelette without breaking some blueberries, and it just immediately made me laugh.

That too. On the one hand, yeah, you know, a couple of million, whatever. Also, does anyone care about ultramarine successes? Not really. But the Inquisition... That's a big deal.

Oh, yeah. We might not give shit. Yeah. The Inquisition did, however, funnily enough. But because the brutality of the flesh terrorists was very well known to the High Lords, they were very efficient

when it came to pacifying worlds. So the High Lords felt that the ends justified the means, which is peak Imperium. Love that. Now, they've faced a bit of an interesting quandary in recent years, courtesy of the Primaris Project. As we've discussed before,

they, along with other successive chapters of Blood Angels, participated in the devastation of Baal and suffered quite a bit of loss. Numerically, they were impacted quite a bit harder than most due to their already depleted recruits. As a means to replenish their numbers, they were offered Primaris support. The Primaris project would result in the gene seed of the flesh tear

as being stabilised, and this was a bit of an issue for Gabriel Seth. Much like we talked about in the Space Wolf's episode with Ragnar, the idea of these new Marines undermined the primal ideal of their original flaws and issues, and despite the overwhelming negativity that came from the Black Rage and the Red Thirst,

the susceptibility to those essentially defined the culture of the flesh terrors. Seth initially wanted no part in this and felt that the reduced number was preferable to losing the identity that defined them. But having then seen Primaris Marines in action, he was very much like, this is sick, actually, and was on board.

That sounds about like how we respond in a somewhat similar manner. I feel like that was the response almost across the board. The number of times Games Workshop teased a little bit of like infighting, but no, we can't have these new Marines and then all it took was someone seeing them and going, actually, forget all that of the stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I'll have some of that. Yeah, let's go.

Also, that's crazy. He's like, oh, what, you want to give us sane space submarines that follow orders and are actually loyal and don't fall to bloodshed and mindless violence at the tip of the hat, how dare you make me loose my identity? That's just, all right, that's a hell of an identity to hold on to, but sure, go off, I guess. I think you'll find we're better when we are permanently on the verge of killing an entire planet out of pure anger. How else am I going to mistakenly kill a million citizens? Come on, man.

You're putting a real damper on my party and my identity here. You're taking away my excuse. I need to do this. You can't take away my excuse, right? Oh, man. Now it's actually a good time to talk about Gabriel Seth, since he had such an objection to that, which, I mean, there's not a lot known about his early life,

but we do know that he's been a part of the flesh terrorists for quite some time. He has all the marks of the flesh terrorist doctrine in a kill-all-enemy sense, but he's notably a bit more stoic and focused. Granted, this means that he's prone to ignoring other commanders on the field and simply accomplishing the goals he has in mind, but ultimately he's a bit better than, you know, just screaming so much that he gets punched in the stomach by dad. Near the tail end of M-41, Seth rose through the ranks and became the chaptermaster,

but this was far from celebratory. An assessment done by the sanguinary high priest of the chapter ultimately determined that the combination of attrition and black rage within the ranks of the flesh terrors would result in the extinction of the chapter in only a few decades. Wow, what a time to ascend. Also, that picture of them, is that like a chain great sword? That thing is huge. Yeah, you had a massive two-handed great sword. God damn. I didn't realize they made chain great sword.

but hell yeah. It's so good, or at least it was so good. I don't think his models available anymore, which is absolute bullshit, frankly. Considering that the flesh terrors were already a very fatalist chapter that have accepted the fact that the black rage is all but inevitable, Seth made a vow to turn this into a valiant thing. He would ensure that the flesh terrors were not to fight out of the fear of being overtaken,

but by the idea that they were to make as big of an impact as possible before fizzling out. If their legacy is strong, then their fate will only be a footnote. The historians will only remember the great victories, not the, oh shit, he tore through a sea of his own people before dying. Seth would advocate. It's an important thing to remember when talking about legacy, right? Just hearing that casually thrown out there, got me a little bit.

Well, start as you mean to go on. Oh, my God. God, what? I don't think I've seen that before. Fleshed out a contemptor with two buzz sores. Hell yeah. That's a really sick mini. That's so good.

What else do they have, right? I love that. God damn. So Seth would advocate for prioritizing proactive military measures and patrols through enemy space, as well as essentially answering any distress calls that they might pick up. This resulted in them isolating further. away from other nearby chapters, which is ultimately a good thing because it means less collateral in the event of the Black Rage overtaking them. Their desire to burn out in a blaze of violent

glory has strained their relationship with the Blood Angels proper, as well as other successor chapters, and their actions have garnered the attention of the Inquisition in an almost comically frequent manner. Yet, Seth has proved to be a very efficient and competent leader. He's always found in the vanguard of his men, and acts as a true and dedicated. up front leader. Despite his nature, he's still as susceptible to the black rage and red thirst as any of the other flesh terrors, and this concern

occupies his mind in all moments of calm. He views the frequency of combat and the risk of this overcoming him as a true test of his worthiness in the eyes of his gene father. Again, guy's a legend. He's holding it down.

Holding it down does feel a little overzealous of a of a verb but okayish I'm just I'm just saying maybe Gabriel Seth might not be holding it down yeah I also remember his old mini

and he doesn't look like he's holding it down oh boy yeah he looks like he looks like he looks like he is right in the throngs of a black rage like oh boy that's not great I like to get in his throngs if you know what I'm saying. No, I don't actually. I don't want any part of that thing's throngs.

Nope. Nope. Bricky's going to get right in there in time to calm down. I was going to get in his throngs to tell him to relax. This is when Bricky brings out the daddy chill gift, right? You're acting crazy, okay? Gaslighting. What even is that word?

It's not actually a word. It's made up. Just say, you need to calm. down now. He's doing the best he can with what he's been given, which is a chapter of lunatics who fly off the handle and butcher innocence when things get a bit rough. Like, you know, in that respect, I feel like he's holding it down, sort of.

He is one of those lunatics. What do you mean? All right, given. I'll give you that one. So, Seth and Dante's relationship, It's been a bit testy, but one of some degree of respect. After the events of the Archeo-insurrection and Sabian, the numbers of the blood angels depleted substantially, and Dante put out a request to all the success of chapters to convene and discuss the future of the Blood Angels.

Seth received this call and initially refused. All right, I take it back. Maybe he's not holding it down. However, he was convinced to go by the Blood Angels emissary, Sergeant Rayfan, because he was like, hey, if there's any chapter master that can understand what it's like to not have a lot of dudes, it's you. Seth begrudgingly agreed and joined the other chaptermasters. At the conclave, Dante explained the situation, but also requested a tithe from all the chapters to help replenish the fractured blood angels. Seth firmly refused, stating how their numbers were

already depleted, and that all things considered, the number of remaining blood angels was still a bit more than what the flesh terers had. In fact, during this, during a private conversation with Dante, he proposed that the blood angels be the one to disband and that those numbers are spread to the successes instead. It's a, what is it? It's a bold strategy carton. Let's see if it plays out. I don't think that goes the way he thinks it's going to go.

Also, would you really want tiths from the flesh terrors? Like, they're all fucked up. Like, do you even want that tithe? It does feel a bit like, look, everyone, give me some of your stuff. stuff. But so my stuff is Infected. Instable as fuck. I don't care. Give it me anyway. Well,

okay. It's not going to last long, but sure. Counteroffer. You fuck off and give me a thing. Yeah. As opposed to all of us giving you something, how about you simply cease to exist and give us everything you have? It's not the best

bargaining chip, is it? No. No. So this private conversation stalled the meeting they were having, and the meeting was further stalled after an issue with Fabius Bile in the crypt of Sanguinius. During this attack by Fabius, Seth would fight alongside Dante to help hold the crypt, along with the other chaptermasters and their men. At the conclusion of the conflict, Dante is understandably a bit shaken by the battle and says that the request still stood for recruits, but they would not blame the others if they did not wish to contribute men. if the blood angels were to be depleted, then it was their fate. After a bit of silence, Gabriel Seth stood forward and pledged a portion of his flesh terrorist Adante and encouraged the others to do the same.

He believed that them all fighting together was a reinforcement to the fact they were all the sons of Sanguinius and they were all brothers in blood. It all works out in the end. Yeah. And then they fall victim to the black raids and they all kill each other at the end. Now, that would be a properly dark ending to that particular. Dante is forced to kill all of them. He's the only one left alive.

It would feel somewhat apt, though. Yeah, for the blood angels, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. Yeah. But you would have to leave Dante alive at the end because somehow, apparently, he hasn't suffered enough. So the others unanimously agreed, and Dante remained shocked that the man who convinced the others was not him, but Gabriel Seth. Of course, they were very prominent during the devastation of Baal, and despite the haphazard natures of others working with them, the flesh terrorists have been exceptionally active in recent years, and they are currently operating within the Imperium Nihilus. At the chapter master meeting, Seth starts his speech with, you have a point, Horace, however. Well, maybe he's got something of an attitude problem.

I mean, if this episode has taught us nothing else is, you know. Well, fair. Gabriel Seth would also uncover some history regarding the fate of Nassir Amit. He would come across a pre-second founding Flesh terrorist ship that had merged into a spacehulk. inside that ship Seth would find Amit's helmet Seth would be drawn to the helmet

which gave him a strange sense of calm he decides to put it on and see what the final visions were that were contained on the cogitators in the hopes of figuring out Amit's fate activating the helmet would cause him

to go unconscious This was a cursed armor That's very funny Honestly that's much lighter than what I thought would happen And I thought he was going to put that thing on and immediately just like, oh, well, there's the black rage all right. And then just go on like, you know, an unstoppable rampage, just ripping it like the hull of the ship and just going nuts. You know what?

Because you've said that, D.K., you can read this bit. Oh, sick. What he saw was blood, a whole universe of blood. Skies tearing themselves apart that bleed on the lands below. and submerge whole continents in viscera. Skull deserts burning tornadoes and nothing but terror. He saw Emmett's face among these visions, and he heard the voice of the flesh terror.

But his voice was not that of a chapter master. It was the roar of a god of pure violence. Seth would describe this vision simply as the end. I'm sorry to think they're gaining, I'm sorry I think they're gaining favor with someone. someone they may not be super stoked about. Someone that would love some flesh tearing, though. It's a little bit of foreboding, isn't it?

There's a little bit of this could all go horribly wrong about that particular vision. But you know what? Could. It might not. You don't know. They're loyalists right now, currently, sort of, even though they call the flesh terrors and they keep, you know, murdering innocence. But they're still loyalist.

And Gabriel Seth, as we've already established, is holding it down. So don't worry about it. I still think that was up for debate, that holding it down thing. But all right, go ahead. Now, we're going to finish out talking about some of the relics of the flesh terrorists because that's pretty much that's where they are currently. They're in Imperium Nihilus.

They're doing what they do. They have horribly depleted numbers. They succumb to the black rage all over the shop. And, yeah, that's pretty much where they are currently. So they have a few different relics, right? Gabriel Seth has a cloak called the Blood Mantle. Very subtle. Love that.

Which is apparently cut from the banner that Nasir Amit carried in battle. The two-handed chainsword wielded by Seth is known as the Blood Reaver. Happed. You know, I'm sure I've been on this ramp before, but my least favorite thing is when games work. shop goes, you know what this chapter's all about? It's about X. So we need to attach X to everything they have. Like the space wolves. Yes, yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we've got, we've got a wolf lord on wolf with wolf cloak and

wolf talisman. Shut up. Stop. And it's just, no one likes it. No one's sitting there going, now that is some good writing. Everyone thinks that's dumb. This is the same thing. You can't have the blood mantle and the Blood Reaver. It's just not on. It's, it's not. You can and he does, Kereyath. You can and he does. I refuse to accept it, especially

right, when the Iron Halo that he has is called the Halo of Thorns. That's legitimately good. That's actually a good item name. This is why, this is why the word bearers are great, because there's a lot of ways you can name

a book. and and it makes like everything has some kind of fun thing like the the cursed tome of Lorgar or some crap like that and that's cool or the dark page's ship the dark page ship you know the the hand of the crap what was Lorgar's um like subtitle name again Eurizen oh no uh yeah he was the Eurizen he was Wasn't there the hand of something? I keep thinking about the Furious Abyss, which was actually quite a cool ship name again,

even if that whole plot point was like, yeah, a whack, but, I mean, isn't their capital ship like the Lex something or another? Yeah, they had like three built.

They had three big Trident ships built, and one of them was the Furious Abyss, and then there was the Lex of something or other. Like, it was, it was actually, but the thing is, It's more imaginative than the blood mantle and the blood reaver.

That is true. Sheds blood, you know? I just don't. I just don't. I feel like there's more exciting things to do. Yeah. Oh, the Fidelitus Lex. That was the name.

That's right. That's right. Again. Blood mantle, blood river. Didn't they deal with the Fidelitist Lex? And then they were like, oh, ha ha, you thought you've won? I've got two more. And it's like, God damn it, Lorgar.

Yeah, I always kind of forget that the warbearers were like, genuine force. Yeah. They were, they were kind of like a real, oh damn kind of situation they had going on back in the heresy. Did they deal with the Lex?

Or was the Lex? The one that survived on the Furious Abyss was the one that was destroyed. Because it had like some loyalist Marines, but from trade to legions like faffing about on it.

I just remember one of them gets dealt with and then they're just like, ha ha, I've got two more and it's like, you bitch. Pretty sure the Lex got itself

blasted. bits in Betrayer, but I might be wrong. I can't remember. Wait, no, the Lex is, I just Google Furious Abyss and as I was doing it. I remember the Lex is, it's not one of the Trident ships. It's, uh, it's the, the flagship, which does get wrecked in Betrayer. So what were the names of the other? Nah, don't worry.

That doesn't matter. The Thumb of Lorgar or something. Who cares? We'll move on. Thumb of Lorga. I was going to say, that's his bald-ass thumb-looking head. that's it the

Trasar Trisagian Sure Trisagian Trisagian Trasagian and Blessed Lady Blessed Lady is generic

but it's still better than sticking the word blood in front of anything Right So he's got the Blood mantle The Blood Riever He also has

The Halo of Thorns Which gets a pass Because that sounds cool and vaguely Catholic There is also a heroic member of the flesh tear is known as Bale-Zor.

His heroic nature within the chapter started as a space marine and continued after being interned in a dreadnought. While in this dreadnought, he faced off against a World Eater's war band known as the Bonescar. He fell in battle, and the dreadnought has become known as

the Bones of Bailzor, which has been worn by many Battlebrothers since, which is actually pretty cool. That is pretty cool. That is pretty cool. We're given that one. That's currently the flesh tearers as they are now. Well, yeah.

Also, that dreadnought's gotten like no guns on it, does it? I mean, I guess they're the flesh tears. They would want to be up close, personal, and just tear your flesh. But I don't know, something about seeing... Underslostung stormbolters, I feel like? Or is it understung Flamers on a Furiosa Dreadnought? I can't remember.

It's one of the two, but there's a couple under the fists that you can't quite see. Oh, okay. I was thinking maybe the like the... the inside of like the grabby claws was like a blaster or something but yeah makes sense for a for a flesh tear though now I'm trying to work out I'm trying to remember which one can you remember Ricky if it is it a flame or is it both I I think you can pick either or but I'm pretty sure I would assume it to be flameer because

I just remember those have old flamers on the bottom of their wrists you know yeah yeah storm bolter or heavy flamer hell yeah I remember correctly. Who cares? You can't buy it anymore. It's gone. Which is its own fucking episode, frankly. I could, I could fill an easily fill an hour bitching about how much stuff has been lost to legends or kits going out of production, etc.

But on the upside, at least, at least in the trailer for Total War Warhammer 40K, my beloved, there was a one second clip. of land raiders speeding across the floor shooting all of their weapons and as such that trailer gets a nine out of ten and it would be a ten out of ten except one of them wasn't a crusader but outside of that hell yeah dude

the best part of the Total War Warhammer trailer was the orc battle wagon running over another orc with the death rollout that was very good that I looked at that and I was like they get it they get it. I'm in.

Yeah. Anytime I see a tracked like space marine tank in like modern media, I just immediately go, this is brilliant. I love it. It's not grave. It's not hover. That's a predator.

That's a land raider. I'm in. I'm 100% in. I don't care what the rest of it is. I'm in for this. And they did it. So I was happy. I'm very shallow and easy to please. Hell yeah He said

With conviction I Well now I'm going to put on my My blood cloak And my blood boots With my blood Reaver gets a It's a

Hey It's a giant Chainsteaded great sword You've got to make the choice You can either have the blood mantle Or the blood Reaver Which you're going for Reaver

Ten times out of ten I'm going for the The chain great sword, 100%. 100%. Yeah, it's the best. It's great.

And really, we just need to remember that even when everything's going wrong and everyone around you is a psychopathic murderer who may fall into killing everything

and everyone around them, as long as you are mostly keeping them on the rails, you know, two times out of ten, you're holding it down. You should, You keep saying that word, those words, you're building it down.

And like, the more you say it, the less I believe it, honestly. You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means. My attempt to salvage your trust after the start of the episode, it seems, has backfired massively. I mean, I was wrong. This is a normal episode. You are correct on that one.

But Gabriel Seth, you know, Gabriel Seth is like, it's kind of like when you see a lineup of criminals. And you're like, well, yeah, that dude just did Crandef Dotto. He's nothing compared to baby killer McGee over there. And I feel like, I feel like in the world of flesh terrors, you know, Gabriel Seth is the one stealing cars. And we're just like, yeah, you know, he's holding it down. He's not really. but by comparison to some of the, you know, horrific crimes in 40K, yeah, he's holding it down. Wait, I want to read this real quick.

Though he knew that his chapter would be refilled with Primera Space Marines after nearly being destroyed completely by the closet here. And is Seth was not very satisfied, thinking that Games Workshop, er-hum, Rabeauté Giliman would just turn the flesh terrors and other chapters of sanguineous bloodline into bland copies of ultramarines and red armor. All right. He wasn't holding it down, but he didn't know what he was talking about. about that's true he was holding down the truth man he's holding down the truth the truth