Adeptus Ridiculous - FULGRIM: PRIDE BEFORE THE FALL | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:24 into another episode of The Adeptus Ridiculous Podcast. Hopefully you all have a wonderful Christmas, or if you don't celebrate Christmas, hopefully you had a wonderful Sunday, and we have a very big episode for you today. But before we get into that, if you enjoy today's episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous Podcast, consider supporting us on Patreon.
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Starting point is 00:01:01 slash adeptus, ridiculous. Bricky, are you ready? I mean, maybe I should do my part first, but I will soon be ready. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Our Black Friday and end of the
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Starting point is 00:02:23 A big day. day. A big purple day. A very purply day. A purply pink day, one might even say. Strokes mustache. Hmm, strokes long white hair. I mean, I'll give you a quote and this time I know you're gonna get it. It's the emperor's children. Damn, you're good. Yes, let's go. I read your mind. I knew the quote. Let's go. I'm so proud, but unfortunately you're wrong it's Fulgram. Get love to get fucked Lamow. Oh. Well... Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I mean, technically, you know, we always do Fulgram before the Emperor's Children in a sense, so... Well, he's Emperor's Children, so theoretically, I'm right. You know, theoretically, you're also wrong. What, he's Emperor's Children... So we have to cover a little Emperor's Children. and that's going to be a topic in the episode.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Technically, you are correct. He is, in fact, the emperor's child, in a sense. Technically correct is the best kind of correct, mind you. Fulgroom is going to remake his entire Legion with Blackjack and Hookers. Ooh, saucy. Sossy is one of the peak adjectives I would use to describe Fulgram. as well as serpentine and Preeti.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Pretty. Pretty. He's purdy. All right. Time to condense one of 40K's most established characters in an hour. Oh, joy. I've got this. Don't you worry.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I believe in you. A classic reminder for those viewers today, we will be covering mostly nothing but fulgroom. And then the next episode, we will be covering the Emperor's Children More with a good amount of discussion on the overall Legion and its two main characters, which is Mr. Bile and Lucius.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And then the third episode, we'll talk about Mr. Rilinor because you hit the Patreon goal and you'll finally get to learn about Mr. Dreadnought. Oh boy, people have wanted to know about him for a long time. Yeah, Rylnor, in my opinion, he mainly just has a baller speech, but, you know, despite it all, it's good enough.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So, here's a quote for you anyway, just for the hell of it. It's fulgroom. Going from the pursuit of perfection in all things to ultimate depravity isn't a journey anybody makes it one step. It's a series of small ones. Each one justifiable in its own isolated way. But after you've taken a hundred of those small steps, you're a long way from who you were at the start.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good quote for the emperor's children and sort of, whoops, now we're chaos. Oops, all chaos. Oops, all chaos. Mm-hmm. I like that. So, in the worlds of the 40K,
Starting point is 00:05:50 I will kind of go through this again because you already know what happens, but for the viewers. Good old Biggie made his 18, well, 20, 20 primarks, and he had them in their capsules. And it is said that he took secrets from the chaos gods in order to create them and then said, Lola Mal got mine, get fucked to the chaos gods afterwards. and the chaos gods. Exactly what he said. Yeah. Verbatim.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Specifically those words. It was crazy. And the chaos gods were like, man, I don't like that. And grabbed all of his children and threw them into a dumpster. Yep. And by the dumpster, I mean the warp. Yeah, basically the dumpster. Basically the dumpster.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Folgram the dumpster baby thrown out. And then he was instead landed on a planet known as chemos or chemos or chemotherapy. I don't know. C-H-E-M-O-S. Oh, chemos. Chemos, chemos, chemo-that. I'm going to call it chemos from now on. Kemos is a resource-poor mining world.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It is a very bleak, unforgiving planet with a tiny little binary star with a nebula cloud surrounding it. So it's got this like twilight sky all the time. I imagine Katie kind of has a similar vibe to it, but this time it's more natural and not unnatural. Yeah. But this planet was settled way back in the dark age of technology as a major mining world.
Starting point is 00:07:26 But during the age of strife, the Eldar, birthing Slanesh, and then warp storms everywhere with all that classic issues. It was basically completely cut off from most to everything else, which means they could not get the one major resource they needed the most, which is drum roll please. Food. Oh. Oh. you didn't have to do the drum roll. Well, then what the fuck were you waiting for? I try to put it in edit most likely, but food.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Oh. They needed fucking food. They had no fucking food. Yeah. They had no food. So, their fortress factories across the planet had to produce all the resources. And people worked horrible lives, like dusk to dawn, working, working, working, working, working, and they still did not have enough food.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And like it wasn't it wasn't the classic mechanic just like efficiency must be increased. If your back is broken, get us, we will servitorize you to increase efficiency. Like, no, no, it's genuinely like, I am working day to night because if I don't, we all die. Like it is a full stop survival mode kind of thing. It is a desperation type of thing. Jesus. Also, that planet looks like shit. It looks like a big turd.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, it is just all land. There's no water. It is just like one large hunker chunk of rock. Hunga chunker. There's no body of water anywhere. Like I'm thick, like I'm chunky. Thick and chunky like all races. Yo, it's the big chungest planet.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Anyway, the people of this planet, the chemos, like, Kemosians, or Kemosian's pronunciation harm. So because of this desperation, basically there was really no culture to this planet. Like arts, the arts, the recreation, fun. Ha,
Starting point is 00:09:26 what even is that? You can't have fun when you don't have any fucking food. So it was all sacrificed name of survival, right? And so eventually scouts of this planetary force were like, dooloo dooloole-loodaloo, I sure hate living here, found Fulgram's capsule.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And normally they'd be like, huh, kill it. we can't feed that we can't feed that infant that's another mouth to feed we got to get rid of it yeah yeah it's like they were they were really pulling off some some lessons from china like well oh get rid of it too many children yeah um but they were just you know like most primarks like oh what a beautiful baby it's so beautiful it's gorgeous it is affecting us with its beauty and they brought it to the leader the executives and the executes executives were like yeah fine you can keep it so it was
Starting point is 00:10:16 raised by one of the caretakers. Oh, caretakers was the name of their policing force, but he was being raised by them. It was named Fulgram, which was an ancient deity of the Comozian people. All right, named after a god. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:10:32 We're sticking with the classics here. Now, as it went on, the rest of the Primark origin story, it's your pretty classic one. He got really big, really fast. He was really smart, but particularly he, using his genius, was able to fix up a lot of their mining equipment.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You know, like make it a lot more efficient, making the production a lot better. Eventually, at the young age of 15, he became an executive himself, one of the executives on the planet. He was just really good at upping the world's production. In fact, so much so that he actually was able to start overtaking some of the mining outposts farther away for the planet that had been abandoned because not enough people, not enough food. Yeah. Okay. So they must have loved him,
Starting point is 00:11:22 because once you start increasing efficiency, you don't have to work as hard, there's not quite as much desperation, and things probably just overall got a lot better for chemos. Yeah, things got great for chemos. They actually, for the first time in decades, were starting to produce a surplus, allowing them that buy food and materials.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And Fulgram naturally became the leader of this planet, you know, typical Primark stuff. And because of this, he specifically wanted to supervise this massive cultural renaissance of arts, of the arts and cultures, everything that had died in the name of desperation. So the arts and sciences became like commonplace. They blossomed into this massive new cultural, you know, it's a cultural renaissance. The man rebuilt Kemos' culture in place as it no longer. needed to, you know, toil away the same way it used to, to survive. Oh, well, good for chemos, for finally having an actual renaissance. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah, and I mean, Fulgroom can be seen as a lot of people. Humble is not one of them. But at this point, Fulgroom was was thoroughly just going with the classic nature of like, I want to make shit better. Shit sucks here. I want to make things better. I want the arts. I want the, I want beauty. I want painting. I want poetry. I want all these things. Add a little splash of color to this gray hunk of rock. Could you guess which color he wanted to splash? Purple.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Purple everywhere. Everywhere. Color this planet purple. Immediately. Everything. Naturally, the first thing to come when the arts were reintroduced is someone who despises art. His name was the emperor. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I mean, he doesn't actually despise art. I don't think so. Well, he is a killjoy, though. He is a killjoy, absolutely. So he arrived and was escorted to Fulgram's private quarters in which Fulgram met the space marines originally there and the other various primar. I think they brought a couple of primarks.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I don't know if they brought other primarks or not, but he was one of the earlier found ones, so I'm not sure how many had already been found besides Horace. And I think technically Alfarious, but that's a bit of an iffy thing. I mean, just bringing out fair, just bringing Horace is probably enough since he is the favored child. And, you know, probably. But despite it all, he saw all of these giant armor-clad Marines made for war, but not just war, but, you know, they look pretty.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And it was like, ooh. And eventually the emperor walked in, full grim, like most primarks, was like, holy shit, went down to his knees, offered his service. The classic. Instantaneous. No struggle. There's no need to transport him up and let him watch all of his friends die or anything. It was just, oh, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm in your service, yep. No, he in fact was not Angron. Good, good for him. Although he still ends up with chaos. No trial of fire with Vulcan. No, no, sorry, dad, I've already seen you murder me before. I know what plans you have for me. Curse thing?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Nah, nothing like that. Yeah. Oh, okay. So he just kneels. It's like, oh, yeah, I love you, dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 No, Fulgram's upbringing is very close to a loyalist primark. And we'll see when it goes downhill later. But Fulgram returned to Terra,
Starting point is 00:15:01 you know, had a little time in the Emperor's service, as they all dim, and he met his third legion, the Emperor's Children of the Third Legion of Space Marines.
Starting point is 00:15:11 This, however, was a bit of a problemo, as there was a major incident involving the gene seat of the emperor's children and a lot of it was lost and could not be properly reproduced because they didn't have Fulgram so in term when Fulgram was sent to meet with his space marines he sat in front of a meager 200 dudes oh yes only 200 a mm-hmm I actually that that's like actually fucking minuscule. Yeah, well, I guess in the world of 40K, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:49 200 is just like a little pin drop. I think the other ones had like tens of thousands. Like, yeah. It's a genuine degradation of people. Regardless, Fulgroom went to his 200 sons and he gave this, this rousing speech, this huge amount of this beautiful, beautiful speech, so strong and amazing and all, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:16:15 that the emperor was taken, because Sowa back, was so impressed by the speech, that he named them the emperor's children on the spot, and said only they could carve the imperial aquila on the chess plates of their armor. As you can see, they've got the aquila right there in the center. They do, yeah. So they got the name because the emperor was so impressed with Fulgram's speech to these 200 sons of his? So enthralled by it.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Oh, okay. For the longest time, I kind of just thought it was because Fulgram was like, oh, yeah, we're the emperor's children. We're the children of the emperor. Praise him. It was just sort of his own little name for his... I didn't realize it was the emperor that actually gave it to him. Well, this is a great example of what expectations do to a motherfucker. Well, I mean, honestly, this is a better story than what I thought, because, like,
Starting point is 00:17:15 like them actually getting it because Biggie is so impressed with his son, that's better. That's, to me, that's above my expectations of what I was, you know, kind of thinking they got their name with. I mean, you can see here by the quote that Shy just posted in the chat. It says, we are his children. Let all who look upon us know this. Only by imperfection can we fail him. We will not fail. So, you know, kind of like goes with what he said.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. Oh man, the foreshadowing, eh? Yeah, only my imperfection, right? Mm-hmm. It's a bit of a combination of a few things. Fulgram was unable to truly live up to his brother's... How do I explain this? With words.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's what I just say. There's your words. Fulgroom was... was a genuine case of I want to do well by you dad. I wanted to take the world's back. I want to bring things into compliance and make humanity strong. I want all these things. I want to do as well as my brothers.
Starting point is 00:18:33 In fact, I want to be to do it perfectly. But I have been given 200 dudes and they have like 30,000. I literally cannot do it in time Or to the amount you desire You named us the emperor's children And yet we are going to be doing Probably the least amount of stuff Because we are so small
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's just not possible for them to do What all of the other What all the other sons are doing Because there's such a small force I'm sure they do a lot All Things Considered but there's no way they can live up to the name emperor's children with just, you know, their meager forces. He was just consumed by the idea that they needed to live up to this insane honor,
Starting point is 00:19:25 which means that they, in order to do anywhere near as good as his brothers, needed to be basically perfect. Yeah. And this kind of idea, this pursuit of beauty and perfection was kind of consumed him a little bit. and his legion and his battle tactics. They would fight in this like unusually artistic way, this huge concern for appearances and aesthetics. This level of like, okay, we need to be perfect
Starting point is 00:19:57 in all of our combat to live up to dad, really just kind of consumed his mind. This need to be. That's why he looks the damn way he does. Like he already was someone who cared a lot about the arts and sciences and culture, but he needed to be like the perfect sum.
Starting point is 00:20:15 He was the emperor's children. He had a tiny fleet that couldn't. He's just a little fleet, you know? Just a little army. Just a couple guys. Just a couple guys. A few of them. That's a little army, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Tiny army, not a huge army. No. No, just a tiny army. Now, do you remember who Fulgram's best bro was? Um Shit Like one of it was it one of the other primarks
Starting point is 00:20:45 Or was it like Um No This is why nobody ever forgets This is why nobody ever remembers Ferris Ferris Manas Oh it was Ferris Manus Damn it I was gonna guess that
Starting point is 00:20:57 But I don't know Why I didn't think it was him Primark of the Iron Hands So So it was the Phoenician Which was the Fulgram And the Gorgon Which was Ferris
Starting point is 00:21:08 and they first met on Terra and one of the greatest forges as Ferris Manus was busy you know toiling with the forge masters demonstrating his own skill with his liquid metal hands as you can see in that picture the T-1000 sure
Starting point is 00:21:23 oh yeah no naturally I mean doesn't Ferris Manus literally mean like Iron Hand in Latin or something it's like super on the nose asking me if I know Latin I was also directed to shy thank you hand of iron, thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Hand of iron, yes, yes, all right. So, Fulgroom came down to the forge and seven. He had come to craft the most perfect weapon ever created, to fashion the most perfect weapon ever made, and bear it during the Great Crusade. And Ferris was like, ha! Fucking idiot, you and your pasty-ass hands could never equal that of my metal hands.
Starting point is 00:22:05 you with your your your your pasty little little little maticure little boy hands and never make any shit like me who's literally has a metal fucking hands and so and so fair
Starting point is 00:22:19 uh fulgram said all right fuck fuck you challenge accept him and they both strips to the waist and had hard oh all right well I mean hey as long as they had a good time okay hey they were testing each other as
Starting point is 00:22:35 weapons, you know, naturally. Ah, yes. So after three months of unending effort, toiling in the forge and other things who, no, we don't know exactly what happened in that for. Three months straight? Fulgrim ended up finishing his weapon, an incredible Warhammer 40,000 called,
Starting point is 00:22:56 it's a warhammer, called Forgebreaker. That could, and I quote, level a mountain in a single blow, which sounds like bullshit, you know. Yeah, it's the classic case. Yeah. Forge breaker, a gigantic hammer.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And Ferris Manus made a golden bladed sword called the fire brand? Or is a fire blade? It's fire something. That said it forever burned with the fire of the forge. And both were the best weapons ever made by a man. But upon seeing each other's weapons, they declared the other person the winner. Ferris was like,
Starting point is 00:23:38 damn, that's a baller fucking hammer. And Fulgram was like, damn, it's a baller fucking sword. And I was going to say, it sounds like they both made a weapon for the other one, like this big hammer, break the...
Starting point is 00:23:52 I mean, that sounds like something for Ferris and Manus and this golden, radiant, always on the fires of the... That sounds like a fucking... Fulgum. weapon. Nice beautiful sword.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It sounds like they made a weapon for each other. And that's exactly what happened because they both declared each other the winner, bickered, and then decided to call it a draw and swapped weapons. And then that's exactly what it occurred, was that Ferris used the hammer
Starting point is 00:24:22 and Folgram used the sword. Yeah. I was going to say, I can't see Folgram using a giant warhammer. I was like, that makes no sense. That's a good comic there, Shai. I like that. What is this? Um, let's try my hand at that art, fancy art business.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Best buds. Best buds. Very cool. Eight pack. Pretty hair, you. But actually, funny enough, that's kind of the thing with Ferris and Fulgram is they were kind of the opposites, but they appreciate each other in that way. Kind of like, remember Karn and Argel Tall?
Starting point is 00:25:00 They kind of like didn't agree, but they were still friends. Yeah, they're still buds. Yeah. Best buds. Like, Ferris Manus was known as the Gorgon, which was after Medusa. And the idea, because he came, his home planet was Medusa. But like, a Gorgon is a terrible nickname.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's a horrifying being that would turn people into stone. Yep, they don't want to look at, you know. Yeah, and most primarks would be pissed off with that name because it doesn't have the regal power. But in a humorous situation, Fulgroom and Ferris were both meeting in this mountain, and Sanguinius was there and gave the emperor, a whole bunch of gifts, right?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Statues of glowing rock and gemstones and crap. And Fulgram was like, oh, my God, it's so beautiful, sanguineous. Oh, my God, wow, someone else shares my love for the arts. And Farris Maness was like, that's stupid. What a waste of fucking time, art. What a dumbass crap. And so Fulgram laughed him and called him a terrible Gorgon. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And Ferris was kind of like, I like I get I like it so he kept it Wow All right All right Mocking him for being a smooth brain He's like cool
Starting point is 00:26:13 I don't like Ferris and Dorn are really similar I'm not gonna lie They got a lot of similarities Difference is that Ferris likes his blacksmithing And Dorn likes his building I was gonna say Ferris Manus also looks like one
Starting point is 00:26:26 That maybe doesn't quite understand The concept of reading He well he understands Yeah, he knows how to make a sword, but reading about a sword, stupid. Yeah, he looks like if he saw a book, he would try to headbut it. Yeah, he reads a lot of manuals, yeah. He's the kind of guy who, instead of opening up a Netflix, he turns on, like, the TV guide. And he's like, wow, look at all these channels.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm not going to read all that. And he's head butts the TV. He's got a forehead for head for headbutts. button. He does. Ferris Manus is quite the... I mean, he's got iron hands for God's sake. That's true. That's true. But yeah, I just don't know. I see that picture of him that shy pose and I'm just like, he's going to headbutt everything. Yeah, well, he doesn't do much headbutting any, oh, she beat me to it. Damn it. All right. Continuing. Continuing, the Great Crusade arrives. Fulgram is trying to do his absolute best to make a
Starting point is 00:27:33 contribution to the crusade in his namesake, but really couldn't. So mainly he has played second fiddle to Horace and just kind of rolled around with Horace for the most part and helped him out with all of his stuff. Eventually with time, his ranks were increased from Terra and from Kimos, particularly the fortress city called Calax, which is the one he led from. And with finally enough forces, he was kind of starting to set off and conquer around dozen or so worlds I mean
Starting point is 00:28:04 killing off the aliens in the wake and stuff before he would eventually arrive on the Xenos world of Leeron Leerran Yeah Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah Yeah, L-A-E-R-A-N Learren Okay And Leeran is when Everything gets Fucky Okay, a little fucky-wucky
Starting point is 00:28:26 All right A little fucky So this world was home to a Zenos race of serpentine people multiple arms and it was a full-on water world nothing but water.
Starting point is 00:28:42 All the continents had sunken beneath the surface and the actual laeer, A-L-A-E-R is the name of the Zenos race would live on these giant bunches of floating coral that were held up by anti-gravity generators this was a fancy-pancy
Starting point is 00:29:01 fucking Xenos race. They had some tech. That sounds really cool. That sounds like a faction I'd actually want to play as. Oh, they're super neat. They have like four arms. They got all this fancy kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:29:15 There's no official arts. Yeah, there's no official art, but they look fucking dope as hell. Oh, man. Why is there no official art of these things? Because they all died. Oh, that's true. Fulgram does find this planet.
Starting point is 00:29:29 he probably would wipe the mountain clam it for the emperor, wouldn't he? I mean, these were a strong-ass faction. They were even considered, like, taking a long time to subdue and perhaps even a possibility to keep them alive and offer trade agreement just because the pain in dealing with them was going to be so much. But Fulgroom, ever wanting to show his prowess, ever wanting to show what he can do, it was like, no, we'll take it ourselves and just by ourselves.
Starting point is 00:29:59 and he didn't he exterminated the entire population of the Lear and took a lot of casualties in doing so but murdered all of them for the emperor for the emperor
Starting point is 00:30:13 damn do the lair have anything to do with why Fulgram becomes serpentine or is this just a coinky dink? DK you're jumping ahead I'm sorry I didn't know I'm just trying to
Starting point is 00:30:30 connect the dots since I know he becomes a snake boy Well, why'd you spoil yourself? Because your mother, I don't know Damn, you got me But yes, the Leire also considered themselves like a perfect race
Starting point is 00:30:49 With Fulgram was like, No! I killed you, you're not perfect. So, the nexus point, dead center of all these coral islands was this enormous temple held up by that anti-gravity stuff and it was found out eventually that and if you couldn't tell by the art these were sladesh worshipping demons or not demons aliens these were slanesh worshipping aliens hardcore to the tea the entire center nexus point was just constant like blaring music and sensation and orgies and all
Starting point is 00:31:28 this snaky shit. All the excess, yeah. And dead center way deep down this enormous temple was an artifact. An absolutely exquisite beautifully crafted blade
Starting point is 00:31:43 called the Leere Blade or Lear Sword. I guess you could prefer it to either. I think it's the Lear Blade though. The blade sounds good. That sounds good. And the Leire Blade was, had this like, gorgeous pommel on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:32:01 It was this curved front on the top of the hilt. And inside this blade rested a greater demon of Slanesh. Uh-oh. And Fogrom was like, damn, that's a pretty fucking blade. Because guess who didn't tell anybody about the dangers of chaos? Oh, bad dad strikes again. Mm-hmm. He has no fucking clue what this is or anything.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So when the blade starts speaking to him, when he picks it up and he's like, ooh, damn, I like this blame. And he starts using it a bit more than the Fireblade Ferris gave him. He just thought that the whispering was his subconscious trying to tell him things. Because he doesn't know any better
Starting point is 00:32:54 because he wasn't told because bad day. Oh, bad dad strikes again. Oh, no. And he's an emperor's children. Why did you tell him? That's one of your favorite kids. Just tell him about chaos, damn it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yep. God damn it, Biggie. You're so bad at this. He was like, oh, I can't tell my kids about chaos because then they'll be tempted. Doesn't tell kids about chaos. Chaos tempts them. Yeah, kids have no idea. Chaos is tempting them.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So, the demon inside, it is a cool sword though. The demon inside very quietly and slowly kind of whispers in his ears, you know, slowly moving him towards the aspects of Slanesh, because perfection is already a Slaneshi trait. The arts is a Slaneshi trait in general.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah. And all he needs to do is kind of crank it a little bit. He began to use the sword a lot more, like I mentioned, than the Ferris's Fireblade sword. And he decided, you know, if this is my subconscious, thinking, telling me about things, maybe I should listen to it, you know? I should listen to my own mind.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Oh, no. Oh, no. So the emperor's children start to get a bit more debauchery, debaise, whatever, with this. The blade is a greater demon of Slemesh, And a greater demon of Sleinesh can be like a keeper of secrets. In fact, I probably argue that this is a keeper of secrets or something like that, that level. Because it's being able to tempt not only him but his legion,
Starting point is 00:34:42 as his legium with the use of Fabius Bile, among others, starts to get a lot more depraved. Oh, no. We'll talk more about that. Nobody in the Imperium notices how depraved and debauchized they're getting. nobody thinks to be like, hey, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:00 uh, it seems like a bad idea. Why are you doing it? Oh, hey, what's with that fancy new sword? Like, nobody?
Starting point is 00:35:06 I mean, he can't really sense that there's a, there's a, there's an evil chaos sword and do something or? Well, they didn't, well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:14 do the night lords were doing night lord stuff too. And like, angron was going around beating people and, and, and, and, and Percharaba was killing a tenth of his legion every so often.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, there were a lot more, things to think about then, hey, Fulgram's acting strange lately. It's true, you do bring up a fair point. There's a lot of sussy shit going on that, uh, okay, okay. Not to mention
Starting point is 00:35:39 they were still like, yeah, and like, yeah, the world eaters being the world eaters, making their brains fucking up their heads, like, there were a lot of other issues we had. God knows what Lorgar was up to. Oh, yeah, true. That, that's
Starting point is 00:35:55 fair. I mean, Folgram acting a little weird and having a new sword compared to the night lords and the world eaters and Angron. I suppose that's not really cause for concern that Folgram has a new sword and he's going a little cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Cuckoo for cocoa puffs. So yeah, he just decided to start like, you know, taking a bit of a listen. And eventually he found this new world. Gorgeous world. Beautiful. very nice. It was an Eldar Maiden World and he met with Mr.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Gigachad Eldrad as an Ulthway guy. We don't even talk much about Eldrad, but Eldrad's kind of a Chad L Chad. Eldrad was like our seers have seen through and has seen the
Starting point is 00:36:48 betrayal of Horace and Fulgram was like, I'm going to fucking kill you for saying that, you Zenos bitch. And then... And does? No. Eldred is very much alive and quite strong.
Starting point is 00:37:02 But he tries to kill him. But it's not just like he's already mad, but not only is he mad, he's also like corrupted by this blade. So the blade, the Sla Neshi blade in the presence of Eldar was like, kill him. Kill him now. Do it. He didn't. He couldn't pull it off. But he did have to fight an avatar of.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Kane in which he strangled to death, which is, in my opinion, really dumb. Jesus Christ. He strangled an Avatar of King to death, really? Yep. Holy shit. The Avatar of Kane is kind of a punching bag, if I'm being totally honest. Oh. Is it usually just used to be like, hey, look at how strong this other person is.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They kill the big demon. Kind of little. bit. Yeah. Okay. So it's kind of like the wharf effect where it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 oh, look how strong this alien is. They beat up Wharf on the away team. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, pretty much. It's,
Starting point is 00:38:09 yeah. It's really upsetting because the Avatar of Kane is super dope. Yeah. But basically Eldred left and Folgram was like, I'm so goddamn mad
Starting point is 00:38:18 about this. And so he decided to virus bomb all of the maiden worlds he found. Whoa. Because fuck you, Eldar. And I must
Starting point is 00:38:26 say, based. Extremely based. You would find that based, wouldn't you? Yeah, I guess, I guess a sword that has a greater demon of Slanesh in, it would be like, fuck deal, or kill
Starting point is 00:38:42 him, all of them, you know, so, yeah, that makes sense that the Slanish blade would. One more time, please there, what was that? Kill them, blah, you know, she's going crazy. Lanesh, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:58 All right, just wanted to make sure. Okay, yeah, yeah. So after that, Fulgram was then dealt or sent to go deal with Horace and the problems that Horace was having. And Horace at this point, mega corrupted, already super problematic. And as they were both like kind of ship to ship, with quite a few ships, like the Empress children could really like lay fire on the Horace's fleet, he was considering like, okay, he could basically stop this right now.
Starting point is 00:39:30 He could stop the whole heresy. You could stop everything. And then because he was just sitting at his flagship, not with the blade on his hip. And then as he was like talking to Horace and Horace is telling him everything that's going on and his plans, his betrayal, Fulgroom is just there.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Like, I could put a stop to this right now. And then he kind of looks to his side and someone says, My lord, don't forget your blade. Which I'm positive was the blade twisting the mind of whoever he was holding. Yep. You know, it's like, bring me to him, bring me to him. Then Fulgram grabs the blade and changes his mind. Of course he does. Of course he does.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Damn you. So another instance of if Biggie was a good dad, the heresy could have been prevented. In so many different ways, if Biggie was just a good dad and used good. good dad tactics, the horse, the heresy didn't have to happen. Again. This is, I think, why a lot of people think that the emperor is playing some 4D chess and knew the heresy was going to happen because he's, his level of incompetence is so high that you just can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:40:47 But it's obvious cope. That's complete copium. Oh, yeah, that's total copium from like Biggie fans, right? Yeah, because Biggie isn't even really like a, like, he's not like a character. He's a, he's a vessel of the story more so than anything. But yeah, his incompetence is excessive. Oh, yes. You need a bit more.
Starting point is 00:41:08 He could be Slaneh with that excess. Yeah, he needs a bit more explanation for why he hides all the fucking chaos. But regardless, now Fulgrim is kind of with Horace in this one, because Horace's idea that humanity can never be perfect under the guise of the emperor. Yeah. Like removing the loyalty to the emperor, to Tara. Like the emperor is the thing holding back humanity's perfection, humanity's future with his lying and his scheming.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. So, you know, it's not a hard, not a hard push. Horace then sent him to go kill Ferris Manus because he was the closest with him. I think Horace kind of knew he wasn't going to, Or no, he didn't try to kill him. He told him to go persuade him. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:03 But Horace, I think, knew he could never actually do that. Ferris is a brick. He's like Dorn. He's just, he just cannot be easily swayed like that. And so I genuinely think that, shy, we're not there yet. Yes, shy. They met on his ship in which they chatted and Folgram trying to pull him towards chaos. and Ferris was like, are you high?
Starting point is 00:42:31 Are you a goddamn moron? No. Fuck, no, I ain't doing that. And so they fought. And actually, Folgram had the fire blade at this point. And I believe, actually, Ferris Manus grabbed the blade with his two iron hands and was like, I made this blade. I can goddamn unmake it. And he blew it up.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Oh, shit. Yeah, he actually unmated. He just just was like. crack and exploded, knocked them all unconscious. Fulgroom woke up first, but couldn't really bring himself to kill Ferris. So instead had all of his Terminator Phoenix Guard, is the name of them, to kill all of Ferris's bodyguards instead, and then open-fired on Ferris's fleet, except for his flagship, just to cripple him, basically. Oh, because he couldn't bring himself to kill him, so he might as well cripple.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Bilema's way wouldn't be a problem anymore. Yeah, which didn't do a great job because the iron hands are, they're all like, like, imagine every Marine being a, being a tech Marine, like being like a fucking tech adept of the Mechanicus. They all are just mega
Starting point is 00:43:43 understanding of all that of mechanics. So they fix that shit quick, but, you know, trying to cripple them down a little bit. So, this is where you get to the big part. the drop site massacre
Starting point is 00:43:59 Mm-hmm So it's You remember the drop-site massacre Yeah I'm Horace I'm a traitor Hooray Come come kill me
Starting point is 00:44:11 Salamanders raven guard Et cetera etc Iron hands and so on And they all go to kill him And then it's like Oh look we're being reinforced By the Iron Warriors Night Lords
Starting point is 00:44:21 Alpha legions and Emperor's children Yay reinforced Oh my God They're killing me Rott-Row-Raggy A disintegrating emoji Yeah That is
Starting point is 00:44:33 That is indeed a massacre If ever there was a perfect example of a massacre That would be one Stop shooting us Iron Warriors You're hitting our troops As the word bear
Starting point is 00:44:44 Have faith word bear We're all leading today Phr Always like that Always like that quote From First Heretic Stop shooting me. No. No, says
Starting point is 00:45:00 pro traubo. Lamao. Continues firing Lamau, Elameo. So Folgram, equipped with his fancy lairre blade goes down to the surface and fights Ferris Manus. His best bud. His best bud. And they fight and they fight and they fight and they come at blows and they
Starting point is 00:45:20 smash and they slam and they and they whack and they slam and they and all the words. Are those the canonical sounds that they're fighting makes? Of course, a Fulgrim is, like, Ferris Man is a primark. He's a tough son of a bitch. He's a tanky son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:45:41 He's very good at fighting and all that stuff. But Fulgrim is pretty up there in terms of dueling. You know, Angron, Lehman Rus, sanguine, a few others. They can just like rip apart the, larger body count maybe, but Fulgrim and like the con and I think the lion are like some of the
Starting point is 00:46:00 top level one-on-one fighters. It's time to do we're sending you to the shadow realm Ferris, which when you think about it, the shadow realm really just is the warp, isn't it? It's yeah, it's kind of the warp, yeah. So Fogne gets the better of him
Starting point is 00:46:17 and stares down at the bloody, broken mess of Ferris. And at this point he kind of is absolved in his mind for a second he kind of just looks he kind of sees his brother down there and his brother is looking at him and there's there's no like admiration or sadness in Ferris Manus's eyes
Starting point is 00:46:37 it's pure fucking hatred wow it's pure like fulgrim I hate your guts like I despise you I mean he did turn traitor traitor and betray everything that to he you know everything that he stood for so i could see that and fulgram kind of looked around at his lesion and he this is when he kind of had this moment of clarity as he saw his noise marines
Starting point is 00:47:07 and or his space marines and this is full stop the hardest they had been degradated with fabius biles experiments and all they've been doing like they were they had just giant distended jaws and stretched skin and like the corruption of Slanesh had really taken over his Legion by now that he never truly saw
Starting point is 00:47:32 I don't know how you miss it but all right well he was under the influence of the chaos yeah yeah like they originally it started with drugs and things to help enhance combat and then for fun and then
Starting point is 00:47:50 there's also the the musician play and his flagship, the Lefinis, which is we'll talk about next episode, which is a whole thing. All right, all right. That's a whole thing. But
Starting point is 00:48:05 despite all, he saw kind of where he had really gone down to. And at this point, he wasn't planning on killing Ferris Manus, but his arm just kind of moved with its own motion. Chaos sort of moved him to do
Starting point is 00:48:22 Mm-hmm. Chaos just kind of took control of his hands and was like slow sweep, just went, and there rolled Ferris Manus's head. Oh. So one might say he got ahead of himself. One might say Folgram was head and shoulders above Ferris Manus. One might also say Folgram was heading in the wrong direction. I'll give you one more. No, I'm good. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm expecting one more. Um, I don't have one more, sorry. Anyway, after this fucking embarrassing statements by D.K., he will become a servitor next episode. Oh. The, uh, this fulgroom was like fully loosen at this point. Mm-hmm. Fully loosen.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It was like, oh, my God. What the fuck have I done? Like, I, he was my brother. I killed him I like absolutely losing his mind and just happened to me
Starting point is 00:49:46 I made my mistakes just fucking burst into tears on the spot and the demon in the blade spoke to him and said that it could take away all of this pain all of the suffering
Starting point is 00:50:03 and sorrow and Fulgroom in this point of just pure anguish and like emotional pain at what he had just done decided yes I will choose nothingness I will gladly take
Starting point is 00:50:18 oblivion I will end it all and with that the demon snatched up his body and locked Folgram away into the painting on his flagship that's boy that's just that sucks
Starting point is 00:50:36 if Fulgram was suicidal basically. Fulgroom was like, I can't live with what I've done. And I would rather choose oblivion. Oh man, that's, that is tragic. It's pretty sad, oh, Spaghetti. Yeah, that is, that is Shakespearean tragedy right there. Everybody dies, the villain wins.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So after this, like, Fulgroom goes back to Horace, and Horace is like, you're not Fulgrim. Uh, what? Hmm. That's, this isn't right. And the demon was like, yeah, nope, I ain't, I put him in the painting. I'm, I'm a demon. I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But I am a warp entity and a great demon of Chaos Lanesh. And I'm not going to kill you. He came to Horace unarmed. He's like, I'm trying to do the same thing you're doing. Like, I'm going to serve the ruin his powers. And Horace said, man, it's probably better that I don't. Okay, sure. Probably better than I don't kill you and keep you as an ally because you're in my goddamn brother's body.
Starting point is 00:51:44 But I'm going to, I'm going to free him one day, God damn it. Oh, okay. So Horace still actually wanted to free Folgram and get his brother back. Oh, yeah, at the time, at least. Yeah. At the time, because, you know, Horace eventually gets problems. Yeah, yeah, he sure does. Yeah, he has his own issues at some point.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But actually, funny enough, the person who was taken the most of the most. backed by the one who's the angriest about this was Lorgar Lorgar Lorgar Lorgar They all sat around the table And Lorgar was just like
Starting point is 00:52:20 staring at Fulgram Like eyes locked with him The whole time This is after the dropside massacre right And so He was just looking at him Over a long time
Starting point is 00:52:33 And you could like See his face was like Scrinching and anger And like you know when someone just really fucking mad, but they can't say anything. They purse their lips and their eyes are wide. So staring at him the whole time. And eventually, Lorgar stood up, grabbed his Crozius, and just whacked him in the head.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Lord Garz walked up and was like, what the fuck is this? And went, wham, smashed him in the head with it. And then Horace and everyone else was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Chill, bro. Chill, chill, chill. Yo, bro, chill. Yo, shit. God damn it, D.K.
Starting point is 00:53:19 But, Lorgar kind of had this feeling of this is not the same. Folgram is not here. Fulgrim is being taken over. This is not like my sons, the Gal Vorbach, the demon-possessed hybrid combos
Starting point is 00:53:36 where it's a symbiotic relationship. This is not like my Argel tall. This is parasitic. Oh, yeah, this is just a complete takeover. It's not even Stevens. It's just, yeah, he was just completely taken. This is when Lorgar is like ludicrously powerful too. Like Horace put his hand on Lorgar's shoulder, be like, hey, stop it.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And then Lorgar turned to him and like stared him in his eye and like with this psychic ability, he's forced Horace's hand off of his shoulder. Ooh. Damn. He psychically commanded Horace to remove his hand from his shoulder. Yo, that's some emperor shit right there. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah, Ascendant Lorgar is kind of nuts. Lorgar before then, may have been a primark, but he was kind of a little baby bitch boy. Ascendant Lorgar is nutty. It's almost like he took a fucking... Yeah, extended Lord of no joke. I mean, it's almost like he took a fucking,
Starting point is 00:54:30 like, Titans melt a shit to the face and lived. Yeah, you know, yeah. But despite this, despite this, Logar eventually left and was like, I'm going to figure this shit out. I'm going to, I'm going to, et cetera, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:54:47 and he left. Because Lord Gar is pretty pissed ever since fighting Korax. Wow. Naturally. Naturally. So this is where the weird part arrives. So there's this guy called Captain Lucius.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Lucius the Eternal is also his name. He's the, he's your main captainy guy. The, you know, the typhus, the Savitar, the Sigisman, the classic guy. I remember him.
Starting point is 00:55:10 He's the one that has the armor with all the faces on it. That is correct. He has also got a terrible mini, but that is him. Yeah. The art of him looks really cool, but his mini is atrocious. Mm-hmm. He's also really good in game, which sucks, so that means you've got to run his mini.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Doesn't they have some weird thing where, like, you told me about him. It's like if you kill him and you take any emotional pleasure out of it, he immediately like respawns in your body and he becomes you and you become a face in his armor or some shit? I think that's about right. Yeah. I need to double check, but I think you've got the idea. Yeah, he sounds, he does sound, he sounds like a big old bag of bullshit, but yeah, I remember liking Lucius. Can confirm, indeed, bag of bullshit. Anyway
Starting point is 00:56:08 Confirmed Confirmed Yeah his Horace Harris Heimini is all rights though It's kind of boring to be honest with you But like it's fine But it's not like anything It's super interesting
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah It's pre weirdness Anyway Lucius was like Something's up with dad Dad's being weird I don't know I don't understand this
Starting point is 00:56:31 And he kept on thinking that there's He kept on having these weird dreams constantly dreaming and dreaming about the painting and I was just like that something is wrong with Fulgroom's body so eventually went to the painting in the music hall
Starting point is 00:56:48 and looked at it very closely and the eyes of the painting like followed him and stared at him the whole time with like this weeping sorrow and tears and crying and he was like holy shit dad's in the painting holy shit dad's in the painting
Starting point is 00:57:02 holy shit dad's in the painting Okay, okay So him and a bunch of the warrior lodge, the Third Legion, and I think Fabius Bile as well, all were able to swarm Fulgrim and knock him unconscious with a bunch of their fucking like Phoenix guys. Like really overpowered him.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And they basically took Fulgrim, strapped him down to the examination table, and did ungodly things to his body. Oh, no. They did excruciating torture to him. to try to remove the demon from his, uh, from his body. Um, Fulgrim, turns out,
Starting point is 00:57:44 had already torn himself free. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. It just gets worse. So Fulgroom actually a while ago had already excised the demon when he came to his senses and put the demon back in the painting. So it was the demon, making the dreams of Lucius to try to get him to be freed.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh, no. And so Fulgrim willingly submitted himself to this torture for the hell of it. Wow, really? Yeah. Just for Fonzie's? Yeah, and then Fulgram just easily tore himself free of his restraints and stood up and was like, yeah, it's me. Not bad, boys, not bad.
Starting point is 00:58:32 See you next Sunday. I'm not going to lie. I do not fucking get this part. I think it's because Fulgram wanted to, he's kind of gone the Slenesh route already and he hates the emperor for lying and he's like, wait a minute, yeah, this demon was a fucker,
Starting point is 00:58:48 but Sleeneh is the king of perfection, the chaos got a perfection. We should try to be like them. And I'm going to discover all of the excess feelings of the world. So Fulgroom seems to have embraced Sleeneh much more willingly, possibly due to,
Starting point is 00:59:05 to some coercion and corruption, possibly due to just Horace telling him. But he says during the time he was stowed away in the painting, he was studying chaos, studying the warp, studying the demon, and he liked what he saw. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And, I mean, Shai says he did it for the memes, and I'm not sure if I'm entirely there to debate her on that one. He might have just done it for the memes. He did it all for the nookie. Wow. So you can take that cookie Wow, you are going back Away's dude
Starting point is 00:59:41 Stick it up your years Yeah, a little bit I mean you're sticking it up something all right So after this The next step in the Horace heresy Was for him to meet up with Perchirabo and the Iron Warriors To go get this fancy
Starting point is 00:59:57 Pancy thing called the Angel Exterminatus Which would be amazing to help them In the Horus Heresy Good old And this is, I think, also the part where Per Chirabo is like, hey, check out my cool Titan Mini and it slams his face into it, which is hilarious to me. Yeah, okay, okay, sure. I just, I just find that fucking humorous.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Because Per Chirabo is Per Chirabo. But basically what happens is that they're going to this fancy, fancy crown world of the Eldar. and they in this world is way, way deep down, deep, deep, deep-de-deep, they are going to find this angel exterminatus. Also, when they first met, or when they met this time around, Folgram gave Percharab with this fancy cloak with this fancy-pancy gem on it. And it was like, here's this thing for my, you know, it looks nice. Here's this great bit for you because, you know, we're friends and all this crap.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Okay. So they all decided to go way down. into this Eldar crone world in which all of the crystalline statues of Eldar wake up and they're like ah, they're getting close to the well of power or some Eldar stuff It's the not important part
Starting point is 01:01:14 They start attacking, they start fighting the Eldar Classic, not important Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure the Eldar loved loved, loved seeing Folgram there completely given over to Slanesh, I'm sure they just loved seeing that. The Eldar actually, you know, the more I think about they can't really catch a break.
Starting point is 01:01:33 No. The Eldar do not. They seem to catch not many breaks. Maybe I'm, maybe I feel bad for them. Maybe, not just kidding. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:01:42 You love it. But down this unending spiral of light, way down to the bottom of the world, there's this big, slender bridge arched out to the center of a giant spherical chamber of just like, unending, defying proportions.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Anchored to the equator of the planet, jade light, like a miniature sun, all this crazy void of impossible bright heat, blah, blah, et cetera. Per Chiraba found out the angel exterminatis never existed because Fulgrim was to be the angel exterminatis. I shall become the greatest weapon of all time. And of course, Petrabo was like, oh, my fucking God, this narcissistic douche. that does sound like a
Starting point is 01:02:31 fulgroom move so fulgum are like per shrabba unamused at this was like all right now per trombe had the hammer of ferrous madness
Starting point is 01:02:41 and was like okay I'm gonna kill you now you fucker for doing all this shit to me okay but finding out that the gemstone that fulgum had given him
Starting point is 01:02:53 was actually draining him of his life force and energy and fulgram was planning on basically giving up Perchirabo to the chaos gods in exchange for his ascension. Oh my God. Wow, Fulgram.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Wow. Holy shit. All right. That is, that is, I mean, that's, that's, that's some 40 chess right there. That's, that's next level strats. So he smashed Perchrabu to the side across the chamber. And he was then lifted up into the air. with like a green torn of light around him.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Like the ascension, his armor shimmering all this fancy stuff. Some loyalist guys came in to start attacking them. A lot of crap like that. I'm skipping over a lot because we're already now 10 episodes in the year of this one. Yeah, yeah. But Perthrable was able to regain his,
Starting point is 01:03:48 to his feet, grab the stone and just yeat it into the gigantic chasm of to nothingness. Yeah. And moving forward, up. Fulgram kind of trapped up there being surrounded by this thing of fire and flame. So Perchraba
Starting point is 01:04:04 walked up to him and said Lola Mao and just smashed him in the chest with the fucking hammer. Just full stop went this is all right pretty boy this is what you get wham
Starting point is 01:04:21 and this basically killed this basically killed Fulgram just I would imagine. Just destroyed his mortal shell. Yeah, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a big oof. But, uh, in destroying his mortal shell, his energy and body started to change and adjust,
Starting point is 01:04:47 and his legs became serpenty, and he grew horns. And this was the big ascension to demon fulgrim that we all know. Uh, so perch rabo could. totally stop him from ascending. No, by killing his physical form, he basically gave him room to ascend in a non-physical form. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:10 So he was the catalyst for making... So what would have happened if he didn't hammer blow him? I feel like... Shit, I don't know, maybe the same thing. Maybe his physical form would have just been ripped apart. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah, he's just like torn up... By the worst powers of chaos, yeah. And sacrificed or something. of that nature. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it says, oh, Shai says the whole draining
Starting point is 01:05:35 of Perchirabo left him crippled and that's why eventually had to become a demon primark to save his own life. Oh. Wait, you mean, you mean Perchirabo? Yeah, I think she means that's why Petrobo had to become
Starting point is 01:05:48 a demon primarge, right? Because he got drained so much by the gem. Yeah, still don't love that. At least there's a reason for it. Still don't love the Perchirabo. being a demon primark, but at least there's a fairly good
Starting point is 01:06:02 reason for it though. Yeah, that's true. Like, yeah, I don't like being a demon, but I also don't like the whole dying thing. I'd rather be a demon than, well, I don't know. If anyone, if anyone was like, I'd rather be dead than a demon, I think it could be pretty. It would be Per Trambo, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Yeah, it might be. Actually, I don't know. Per Trubo is so hateful. He'd be like, he'd probably be like, if I'm a demon, does that mean I get to kill Dorn better? Like, yeah. Like, fuck yeah. Sign me up. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I guess it depends on what side of bitter he wants to be on. He has grudges to settle, yeah. Anyway, demon Fulgram arrives. Shy, correct me on this one, if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the Emperor's children of Fulgram don't do a whole lot in the siege of Terra. I think they mainly just go around Tara grabbing civilians and torturing them for the lulls.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Sounds like that. like a Slaneshi thing to do, sure. I'm actually pretty positive. That's the main thing they do during the siege. They're just like, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to go torture and maim and do unspeakable, horrible things to the citizenry of Terra, including certain other things that we cannot say on YouTube. They go rogue and literally turn civilian populace into drinks and drugs in a blender. Oh my God. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:28 That's about right. And they're just like, man, fuck this whole terror thing. I'm going to go. This is what happens, Horace. When you bank your entire goddamn, your entire goddamn force on the stinky death guard, fucking Angron, and the dude who turns people in the milkshakes.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Nice job, Horace. Great allies you've got there. Also, by the way, Conrad Kerr is flying across the depths of space because he got jettisoned in a locker. And then Perciaro's like, Like, wow, I'm out of here. Shai said, and
Starting point is 01:08:03 Per Trambo's seeing this shit says, fuck this joke of a siege, I am out. And he dips. Oh, yeah. Eventually, he's like, okay. Our entire forces are surrounded by demons of corn. The death guard, like, I'm gone. Yeah, Per Trambo literally leaves. He's like, this is a joke.
Starting point is 01:08:21 This is ludicrous. Perchiramo, staying based, as always. As always. Oh man, that's, uh, I'm still trying to wrap my head around, uh, them turning rogue and turning the populace into drinks and drugs. That's, that's a lot. Yeah, so, so nothing. That's very Slanesh, to be fair.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Fabius Bile loves his drugs, but he loves his drugs a lot more when they can be synthesized from people. Oh, that's, that's, uh, yeah. Um, um, yum, yum, yum. Soylent greens is people. Soilink, yeah, Soilin purple. Yep, Soilent purple. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, from there, Fulgram goes off to do his own thing. He, uh, he fights Gileman, shanks him in the throat with a toxic blade and puts him in the, uh, stasis field for 10,000 years until he's eventually woken up again.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Oh, so it's Fulgram that, uh, gives him the mortal wound that needs to be, uh, that he needs to go in the pot for? Oh, okay. Yep, yep. I guess I didn't realize that or I forgot. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I told you, but it's fine. That was a while ago. Yeah, yeah. He, uh, he slices his throat, pens him away. Um, Fabius Bile was able to, uh, clone Fulgram. It's so crazy. The wiki has only three paragraphs on this, on this whole clone. Okay. He's able to finally make a perfect clone of Fulgrim, and the Fulgram clone is like, man, I sure do hate all the horrible things I've done. And then, and then Fabius Biles, like, damn, I'm a little scared that you're going to do all the horrible things you did again.
Starting point is 01:10:05 So, yo, Trazen, here you go. Have this clone in exchange for a bunch of gene seat I want to experiment on. And Trazen's like, bet. So now Trayson has a clone of Folgram. Okay. So they literally just made a clone of Fulgrim just to give to Trazen and never see again? Yeah, it was one of those things
Starting point is 01:10:32 that I think they wanted to do more with the story until they realized it was a bad idea and then basically just locked. You know, Fulgram, not Fulgram, Trayson's vault is a great, like, retcon vault. Just like, just lock away shit that we don't want to deal with right now. Just put it in the vault.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Put in the vault. Yeah, because Trayson's not going to give it up. So whatever, just lock it in the... It's fine. Okay. That's weird. Yeah. I mean, could they just...
Starting point is 01:10:53 Couldn't they just kill the Fulgram clone? Just have Fabius Spide, be like, oh yeah, this is a bad idea. Shank. I mean, it's a little hard to kill the fulgram clone. It's a clone of a fulgram. That's true. It's the clone of a primark, I guess.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah. It's fine, it's fine. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. And that's kind of where we're at with Fulgram. There's not a whole lot of talk about what Fulgrin's been doing about right nowadays.
Starting point is 01:11:22 He's, uh, the person who'll be talking a lot more has been Angron. Um, but that's why Angron's return has been recent. They tease Fulgrim, you know, he's probably out and about killing and torturing and doing other things I can't say on YouTube to people. Uh, because that's just what he does. Yeah, he's slithering around out there somewhere doing some messed up chaos stuff. And humorously enough, his, uh, demon form actually looks a shitload like the lair. They have the forearms. They have the slether, the serpentine body.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Though he does have big wings now and stuff, which is kind of cool. I like... It does look like a layer. I hope they lean into the, like, his face in that picture. Kind of reminds me a lot of like, what's the ring girl, like Sotico or whatever? It reminds me of like the spectral Japanese ghost that has the really long, wide open mouth and the bright eyes. Oh, yeah, it does. It kind of has that vibe.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I hope they lean into that if they ever make as many. Maybe. Like the crooked head, the white hair, just like the long, leering face and the giant constantly open mouth. Yeah, sure. Kind of interesting. I kind of like the menacing one above, though, honestly.
Starting point is 01:12:40 The one that, uh, the one with like the purple armor and everything and the big wings and the blades in all of his hands. I kind of like that one better. I kind of like the more, like, Yo-Kai-lowe. looking one. Yeah, but you're dumb. You made a whole bunch
Starting point is 01:12:56 of head jokes and they didn't even land unlike Ferris Manus' head, which very much landed on the ground. Hey, but yeah, I mean, that's, that's really Folgram. Fulgram is the
Starting point is 01:13:12 result of one bad data game, but unending, ridiculous levels of expectations and the need to please absolutely destroying somebody. Yeah. Yep. He wanted to please dad. He wanted to live up to the name dad gave him and it ended up being his downfall.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yeah. It's kind of goes, it's a lesson to be learned that don't like a constant pursuit for more and more and more will only bring you down and putting horrible expectations on people is just not a good thing. Yep. Yep. He was trying to fill a excess that couldn't be filled. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm. That being said, many other parts of him were definitely filled.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I get it. Sex. I get that ham. I get that ham. Sex. He's talking about intercourse.

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