Adeptus Ridiculous - HIVE CITIES: I HATE IT HERE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousAround the entire Imperium over 85% of all planets have at least one hive city cluster.Hives consist of great housing and factory blocks, forming ranges of man-made mountains. These huge towering urban complexes are known as city hives, or simply as hives, and their individual peaks or towers are called city spires or spires. A close group of hives is known as a hive cluster. There are often several thousand hives on a single Hive world. A Hive consists of many layers; the lowest layers form the underhive. Hives are worlds in themselves, where the populace has never seen the outer world, and concepts such as the ground and sky are completely alien. There are entire regions inside the hive blocked off by collapsed sections, where is found the treasure of the hive, the Archeotech hoards, ancient stores of technology.Exotic planetary environments give rise to unusual hives, such as those of Landunder which cling to the floating surface crust and extend downwards into the world's oceans. Even gas giants can host hive cities suspended in their upper atmospheres, like Scitalyss or Vesmir II, which are sometimes known as skyhives. Above the latter the main hives are connected with the gas-enshrouded planet via elevator mineshafts providing a steady flow of raw materials.Support the show

one to another episode of the Adeptus Ridicants podcast. My name is TKD Amontes. His name is Bricky, and it is indeed that time of the month because Kariath is here. We'll get into that in just a second. If you enjoy today's episode of the podcast, and maybe you want to support the podcast, head over to patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you can get access to the discord, bloopers if they happen, $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in Krispy Digital HD format.

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Yeah, the white hair, the crown type thing, the jewels, you know, the family jewels. The sort of purplish motif, too. Yeah, yeah, I kind of see it. I kind of see a little bit. I see what you're coming from. I see. Now, Ricky, if I wanted to procure one or both of these posters in physical form, how, pray tell, would I go about doing that?

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just yell at my children to get out if they try and come in the room. No, you can't see this. Yeah, yeah. Don't. Oh, all right. How about you yell at me about this episode's topic? Oh, what a segue. Nice.

Nice. Nice. We're going to do a presentation of scenario again. Okay. Okay. Okay. Imagine you live amongst countless others. You've never seen the sky.

You've never seen the sun. You go from your hablock to the manufacturerum. You do your shift. You come back home again. You enjoy a nice bowl of corpstarch and recycled water. Recycled from where you probably don't want to think about that too hard. You then repeat that the next day and the next day and the next day. One day you are called to go outside to actually leave your place.

of living and work, and go out into the sunshine, whereupon you step onto the ashen ground outside of your home and get caught in a horrendous storm that immediately flays the skin from your flesh and the flesh from your bones, and then your bones disintegrate as well. Where'd you reckon you are? Ah, mm. I could. Krieg?

Wait, you say a storm, right? So, so, okay, okay, let me, let me see if I'm getting this laid out properly. We're like a hive worker of sorts or some kind of like, like, hume. And then, I was thinking under hive, but yeah, go ahead. And then we leave out of the hive city to the barren wastes of the city. And then it's like the worst storms ever because often hive cities have like bad weather outside of the planet. So am I, am I stepping in what you're? You're pretty much there.

Okay. Okay. So is it the planet you want the answer for? Or is it the under hive thing, like before the planet? Or is it both? It's a necromunda? Essentially, we're going to talk about necrumanda along with a few other hive worlds. Oh, let's go.

Because they are horrendous. Let's go. So do I get a dub by proxy? No. I mean, you're the hive big part of necromander, so. And really any spire, to be honest, they're all pretty dreadful. That was a team dub, right? Because I didn't get a chance.

Team dub. Well done, team. Well done, team Adrick. Let's go. Tell us about the necromba. No, just straight up no from Shai. I got to be honest, that picture Shai posted goes so hard. Whoa.

It's so good. Is this recent? I don't think I've seen this photo of like a Hyde City before. That reminds me of the mission in Space Marine too. Oh, I was about to say, I thought it was Dark Tide, because remember the train? Oh, that's fair. Yeah.

Oh, okay. I mean, Dark Tide is set like in a Hive City slash on a Hive World. So you've kind of got really a very good representation just going through screenshots of sort of the architecture of the place and sort of how it looks. But there's a ton of different hive worlds and different, just different interpretations of the same flavor of awful. whereby you have billions upon billions of people living in a single structure, I guess, sort of in inverted commas, where there are just people stacked on top of people,

on top of people, until you get about halfway up, at which point things start to get a bit nicer. But they only start to get a bit nicer for, well, the rich, the nobles, the people of importance, you have a huge crush of humanity and then as things get a bit nicer it tends to open up

and you've got like the noble houses and the imperial houses and yeah it's a really really fun bit of like 40K stuff because it's like they take all of the things that would be the worst thing to deal with outside of just aliens eating you and compress it into a mountain

that people made and then everything outside it is awful. And everything inside it is awful unless you live at the very top, which is perfect. I was about to say, like, this is, I think one of my particularly favorite parts of Warhammer satire is that,

you know, in their high, like, ooh, the rich in their high spires. And they're like actually in high spires. And then they actually just, don't even ever have to see the poor and the and the helpless because they are so far beneath them, like actually literally beneath them. It's just, it gets me. Also, I mean, can you imagine if you were that rich that your view was that above the clouds into the stars is what your, like your bedroom view is? It's ridiculous. And it's, it's not just being above the clouds on, on like a good chunk of hive world. Because.

because of how absolutely horrific they are ecologically and how much they destroy the planets they're on. You're above the clouds, but you also know that the clouds are poison. Like, it's not just kind of natural weather patterns or just being so high up that you can kind of escape rain or anything. It's, you're escaping things like toxic rain, horrific storms that can rip the shielding from the outside of this gigantic structure. Like, you know that the people below you can't even go.

go outside without having significant amounts of protective equipment on because they will die. In most cases, immediately. If they leave, they are immediately out of look whilst you're just looking into space. And this really nice kind of glow of the atmosphere and everything underneath you is awful. So is today basically just like how a hive city is made. Like what, here is a hive world. This is what it's like. Is that kind of the episode synopsis?

us. Pretty much, yeah. There's a few different types of, well, there's quite a few different hive worlds and the hive cities are relatively similar from one to another, but there are some really interesting kind of extreme ones as well. We will talk about one called Land Under at some point later on, because I had no idea that's existed and I love the concept of it, even if it is mad. Essentially, imagine, like, the world of necremund, but upside down, which sounds weird on the surface, and it is weird, but we will get to that. Effectively, hive worlds, they make up somewhere between, like, 25 to 10% of imperial planets.

It's not a hard number because imperial bureaucracy is terrible, and record-keeping is awful, and no one really knows as much as they think they do when it comes to the Imperium and record keeping. But the thing they have in common is that the population of a hive world is absolutely staggering. So I've got a few different examples of population numbers. So Land Under, due to the type of world it is, that has got a population of less than a billion, which is actually not very many.

Like that's not huge. But for contrast, the planet ICAR 4 has a population of 500 billion human. beings. Whoa. Which, logistically, how does that even work? Right?

Yeah. I mean, I guess, I guess if you have a hive city that literally reaches into space, I mean, Jesus,

500 billion, though? That spread across, like, lots of hive cities. So it's a hive world because there are multiple hive cities,

but that's still insane. Like, that number of people on one planet is, is absolutely mind-blowing. Like, I can't, I can't, like, tell how much that is, even though we've got the number. There's also another one called Minea, which is 154 billion strong. And they have a 2 million strong garrison of guard, and as a planet, they send 1,250,000 people into the Imperial Guard every year.

So it's, that, that, that primary governor is doing his job. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. G.W. is not beating the allegations of, God, we just don't understand numbers.

It's so funny, though. It's just, imagine a number that's silly. Now quadruple it. That's how many people are all. It's like, okay, cool. All right. Sure.

Whatever, dude. It just, I don't know. It gets me. Because wasn't it Armageddon that we talked about way back when it's just like, yeah, you know, in a sense, if they did the, this is how much ammunition, how many people they did and people did the math, it's like, well, if the teams are operating properly, then it will allow them to fire their guns for about like 45 minutes at normal efficiency before they ran out of ammo.

Yeah. It's like, ah, classic. Love it. So one of the sort of core features of hive worlds is that a lot of them are, at, you know, absolutely reliant on imported food and water. So the sheer size of them, compared to the planets they're on, they cannot possibly sustain themselves, especially since a lot of them are kind of based around the manufacture of ammunition or prometrium or

tank, just full on tanks. There's a planet that has an insane amount of construction of just Lehman Rust tanks going on. In fact, I think that is the one from Darktide, where the main export is Lehman Rus tanks because of a certain type of metal alloy that they mine. But it means that the planets are horrifically, like just horrifically polluted.

You've got land that has been completely destroyed via either harvesting or mining. You've got manufacturers that are just spilling out polluting air 24-7 for like potentially thousands of years non-stop. So you need that import of food and water. And it's another thing of where the kind of difference in social classes comes in. So the people that live in the lower part of the spire, they get like corpse starch and they get synthetic foods.

And they get water that is just recycled from the polluted water of the planet or, you know, whatever comes out of them. Call my ass spare grills the way I drink piss. Wow It's basically what they're doing I mean in a sense Yeah pretty much Yeah you rattled that off Way too easily friend

I was thinking of it I was waiting for for a curiosity And then I couldn't find one So I just interrupted It's like Man Got a little too sure You're happy with the meme

I feel like that's like Most of these episodes anyway Isn't it A little bit yeah Oh no I was I was thinking waiting for me to shut up so you can say something. I was going that way with it.

D.K. waits for me, and then I wait for you. It's a cyclical cycle, you know. It's a whole thing. Yeah, it's an aeroborose, if you will. If you want a more British reference for the drinking your own re-sike, then Red Dwarf, where they have margaritas, and then they get very

unhappy with how it's not margaritas at all. About 50 people will have got that one. So, yeah, effectively, you are, you're in a horrific state if you are lower down, but the higher-ups, they get the nice food. They get the imported food, they get the nice water that's brought in from off-world, or in some cases, is made out of the polar ice caps and purified and stuff. So they don't just live above the people down below them. They also eat better food, drink better water, because they can just have things

brought in from out of system. However, that relies on stable warp routes, and that relies on imports being possible. So if something goes wrong, like there's some sort of chaos shenanigans, hive worlds and hive cities can collapse very quickly because there's just not enough to go around. Well, that would never happen in 40K though. They're all so well-adjusted and balanced and put together. Something like that would surely just, that's probably no records of that happening, right? He's being so drastic again. Everyone beat on. on him. Sorry.

But yes. I mean, what's, isn't like, because there's the houses of the hive city, right, that's like shown in hive primus that you posted earlier. But are we in the under hive or are we in the sub? So I think your average person is, your average person is kind of like under hivey, really. Either that or like working and living in the same, like the same. like the same section, they don't seem to really care how close people live to like manufacturers and stuff. Like hab and housing and where all the bullets are made are pretty much

contained in the same levels. So it's just constant horrific pollution, noise, recycled air as well because of course there's not really a way to have fresh air in a city that starts out like 10 miles wide but is like, sorry, like 10 miles tall, but maybe hundreds of miles wide. So it just becomes this mass of almost everything is on the interior to the extent where you'll have some cities that have got actual little weather systems within them just because of the huge open space inside it. Oh, they have to consistently like even manipulate the weather of the hive city. so that they can actually live in their hive city without like,

because they've just ruined the planet to such a degree with this absolutely massive structure that they're just like, yeah, if we don't, if we don't get like a weather satellite in here, we can't, we can't even live here. We're going to just die.

I mean, I guess in a sense when you've created yourself a gigantic, like, like rock crete and adamantium box, you know, like I guess you wouldn't really be able to breathe very well, I imagine. Yeah.

Yeah, they have to be ventilated. There are also heat sinks as well due to the sheer amount of heat that they generate. And especially like for Necremunda, for Hive Primus, I think one of the kind of schematics for it, there is essentially a gigantic plasteel tube that runs through the center of the entire spire, which is used to heat it. So it goes down into the planet's core and then it goes up. through the city and that acts as a heating element. But it also needs heat sinks for the amount of heat produced by manufacturers and just a number of people living there and all of the horrendous pollution and radiation going on outside as well.

Yeah, it's everything that occurred. I mean, like living in the hive cities is already terrible, but then like the extrament and all that shit coming out of it goes into the wastes. next thing you know, you get like a gigantic 70 foot tall toe that like will has 14 eyes and two tongues and then you die if the radiation doesn't kill you first. Yeah. This is what happens. Like in in that first example you gave us where like if you step outside, it's just like a whirling storm that'll just eat you alive. Is that just like some planets are bad like that or is that because oh wow, we made this hive city. It's ruined the planet and now everything outside of our little.

shield is, you know, screwed. So some planets are just like horrendous. Like we've talked about death worlds briefly in the past, but hive planets, like, just ruin the planets. They destroy them. Ecologically, they're an absolute disaster. So they destroy regular weather patterns. They churn up any sort of arable land.

So any sort of farming is just a no-no after a certain point. The amount of pollution chucked out means that you don't just have kind of storms. You can have, especially on like Necrimander itself, there are ash storms that will build up, but then never wind down. And so they will just get worse and worse and worse. And so a bad storm could kill nomads.

A catastrophic storm can wipe out an entire hive city just through how abrasive and, like, poisonous and, violent the storm is. So hive cities have been lost two storms so severe that they have continued to build and build as they have traversed the planet. Because in a lot of the hive worlds, things like oceans don't really exist. They've been either drained dry or they've been completely poisoned by the actual, you know, again, by this massive ecological impact. So there's no sort of natural weather patterns left. It is just huge storms of like irradiated ash and sand. So like on Necremunda and some of the other hive worlds, there are manufacturers that are buried under ash.

So all of the stuff that's being made is spewing stuff into the atmosphere. That is then falling back to ground. And manufacturers are being lost to ash because up to a certain point, they can keep them running as long as they keep them vented. But there will be a point where there's so much ash built up on top that they can no longer be serviced and they can no longer function. So like the level of the ground is actually being affected and raised by how much pollution is being spewed out by the hive cities. Yeah. And so Shai posted like that picture again. And I don't know, I guess it's because my eyes are just obviously drawn to the big.

big Hive City spire. But then it's like when you look at the ground, it's like, oh, yeah, it's just toxic waste. There's just pipes everywhere. It's all rusted. It's all just, and that's the whole planet. And it's like, oh, right. Oh, right. Man's hubris really, really do be turning these places into just like a toxic pit.

Yep. How many hive cities is like the most on a single world? Like, because like, just one big one. big one is probably enough to just, you know, ruin a planet. Is there, like, because there are hive worlds too, right? Normally they have like the big one and then they have like a whole bunch of additional hive cities kind of around the place. Oh, okay.

I mean, normally, because normally they do like the usual naming sequences, right, where it's like, uh, um, something primus, something secundus, something tertius, right? That's often how they do a lot of their stuff. Yeah. Um, even in, in the, the map. picture there. Like you even have like the slick black

sump. And you just imagine it's like this giant or radiated piece of like oil water. And then you know, they have all the various towers out in the way. And then you have like here's the plateau and then the waste and the flats and the

Yeah. Okay. Because I heard hive world and I was like, wait, you can't have multiple of these gigantic high cities on like a planet, right? That's exactly what a hive world is. It is a world that is completely dominated by these hive cities where it's borderline just covered in them. Technically, terror is a hive world because pretty much the entire surface of the planet is just covered by a city, pretty much.

So I can just quickly reel off just to give an idea as to, and this is just the example of necromania. And necrumander is by far not the only hive world. there's like 30,000 something of hive worlds. So in the Western Hemisphere of Necremunda, you've got hive primus, hive tracia, Aproclus hive, hive Temenos, the skull, hive secundas, hive Arcosos, hive Minerva, hive prosperine,

allotus, alpha prime, arinthor, Bellium, Seri, Sinus, Hince, Janus, Meridian, Rothgol, Phatos, Titania, Uthos, Alantia, Valkyria, prison hive Zaltra. Because, you know, hives couldn't get any worse until you make it a prison. Just the whole thing is a prison. I didn't know that was the thing.

I didn't realize there were a whole like hive cities dedicated to just being a prison. Oh, yeah, it's like, and then it got worse. There's also the Skygelt Tower. And then in the eastern hemisphere, you've got hive mortis, Gothrilles, Gothrills, Needle, the Quinspirus cluster, so multiple hives, which is five spires. So if you take like Hive Primus, which is a single spire, the Quinspirus cluster is basically five of those together. And then you've got Hive Vosroth. And those are just the, like the actual

hive cities themselves. That is ignoring the vast underground networks known as the hidden, the forbidden cities. That's also ignoring all of the nomad cities on the planet as well. So it's like billions upon billions of people in one structure, but a planet can be just covered in those structures, which is how you get to stupid numbers. numbers like 154 billion people live here or 500 billion people live here. Yeah, build up, baby. You can really fit a lot of folks if you go up.

Yeah, and then just build up all over the planet. It's just build up everywhere. Build the prisons up. Build every city up. Just cover the planet in spire cities. Yeah, I mean, you think about like, you think about like the Earth. right and you're like okay we're like what is it 70 something percent water so that those that's all uninhabitable you have the entirety of Antarctica which is uninhabitable well mostly uninhabitable

mostly yeah yeah and then you just think like well you know the biggest cities hold a lot of people don't get me wrong but there's a lot of free space and what if instead you went up like 14 miles yeah or whatever I don't know how high it goes before we reach like atmosphere but probably it's like So Hyve Primus is 10 miles high. Hell, yes. With there being basically a massive barrier, like a wall, separating the bottom five miles from the rest of the spire because the rich people don't want the paws to get in without a permit.

So it's like a massive adamantium shield blocking off like the upper part of the of the hive city from the lower part. And the thing as well is, because it drains all the water, everything gets completely ruined, you end up with more space to build on. I mean, you don't end up on a world with something called the sludge seas without doing some real damage. So that's, again, a necrumander thing where the seas have gone from being like nice ancient oceans

to they are now just a chemical soup or just polluted mud. there's also like a big crust that's been baked by the sun. There's no ships, conventional ships don't work anymore on that planet. It's flyers or overland machines. There are no actual like ocean-growing vessels because there's no oceans anymore. They're just all horrendous. But, but there are hive cities that have been built on them. So that they're either like...

Oh, on the Sea of Sledge? Yes. So there are hive cities that have been built into... the sludge seas where, you know, like on like an oil rig, there's those like massive piles that are driven in to the, like, the ocean floor. They've done the same thing on Necremunda, where they've sunk huge piles into the sea floor and then built the hive on top of that. They're smaller. They're not like the same size as hive primus or anything. But they are still horrific, you know, like mountains full of people, but built literally on top of toxic

wasteland that used to be water. Oh, gross. Oh, Shai said, oh, that reminds me of that funny moment when Tyrannids attacked a hive world, tried to go into the seas without realizing that the seas are actually toxic waste, and it melted a shitload of them. Yeah, I remember that, too. It's like, the Tyrannids went for an invasion, and they, he's like, oh, because Tyrannids are smart, and they'll go through the water. And then they go through the water, they're just like, ah! And they turn into, like, the integrating emoji meme.

Wait, hold on. I have it here. Don't you worry. And then they probably adapted and could swim through it, right? And then eventually they stopped firing people into the water. And then probably made their adjustments and then went from there. Yeah. But I mean, there's always that one story of that one tiernid invasion where like the noble was

hiking and he was like, oh, the air is really thin. But I'm an experienced hiker. I know the air is not thin like up here because the tyranids are siphoning the air. Oh, God. Yeah. Also, if this is jumping the gun, feel free to tell me.

What's, like, the biggest Hive City that they've ever made? I don't know if it's the $500 billion one. Only asking because I would assume 40K, future, sci-fi, that they would have the tech to actually be able to build

these things up into space, like actually pass, like, the atmosphere, maybe. Shai, post me a photo of Mars. Please. I guess Mars... The please on the end really made it that one. I don't know why, but it never, like,

when I think of terror, I'm like, oh, yeah, there's not hive cities. That's just the Imperium's place. And it's like, well, no, like, of course the... Of course Terra would have shite loads of, like, hive cities on it. I don't know why I'm... Anyway... Yeah, I think it's because terror is kind of set as... side. It's like kind of, it feels like its own thing.

Yeah. Because it's the birthplace of humanity and that's where everything starts and everything reached out from. And so it's kind of like, oh, well, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Tara, basically. Yeah. Also, do we have a photo of Terra? Like a modern 40K era photo of Terra? Oh, well, I guess there's that one.

Is that one? That looks like, um, I'm so sorry for making a dorky, weeby, that's not a wee reference. It looks like, um, what's the planet in Star Wars that they, they fly to you? And it's just wall-to-wall lights everywhere on the continent. Oh, Coroscent. Yeah, it looks like that. Shai literally said that. Oh, no, did she really? Terror is seriously like Corrissant, but Gothic and horrible.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't. I looked so quickly at the picture. I did not see her literally say that. I'm sorry. But yeah, I mean, I'm pretty, I remember Tara being like, yeah, just, just astronomically, nothing but cities. I mean, God save you when you get to, like, the imperial palace. That thing is insane.

Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think Tara would look like this. but like from every description of it, it absolutely should look like that. I mean, yeah, there's, there's that. There's also the classic photo that that's been reposted, uh,

everywhere, which is, which is this one with all the pilgrims that go to the, like, that kind of area. Oh, I've never seen that one. That's a good one.

There's also this one that I, I also really enjoy as well. Um, you got Dorn up there, but, uh, yeah, Tara's pretty,

pretty crazy. It's weird because Tara is like, it's, it's a high, world, but it's also more regal in a lot of it is more regal because it's terra. And even the undercities of Terra,

even though it does still suck, are not as, like probably as bad as some other undercities, I would assume. Well, it's, it's like an amalgamation, isn't it?

It's a hive world, but it's also almost a shrine world, but it's also the administrative hub of the Imperium as well. So it kind of fulfills a bunch of different, criteria for what it technically is. But at the end of the day, it's still,

most people, I'd imagine, would just never see the floor. Like, it's just, everything is built up so high and for so long, and it's expanded so much that I've always wanted to know if there's some reference in a book somewhere, and there'll be a, like, law, kind of genius somewhere

who'll be able to answer this. Whether the size of terror is, has technically got bigger over the course of the Imperium. And by that I mean like the actual size of the planet, like by the definition of how big the planet is, has it got bigger over the years? Because I feel like it should have done or it must have done just from how much it's been built up and built over itself.

Oh, you mean has it gotten bigger as in like have they built up like one mile high across the entire world? So in a sense its diameter is larger. Yes. Like is it literally a bigger planet than it used to be? Okay. I thought you meant like, did they change the lore? Like did they do it in a reccon of some kind originally?

But maybe. I mean, either way. Either way I'd like to know. Shai makes a good point. Or it could be considered smaller, considering they've siphoned every usable resource from Terra. They dug so deep into it. Yeah.

Yeah, entirely. So I guess that could also be a part of it. Because I know, I know Terra has no oceans. They're gone. Oh, yeah. With all these pictures I've seen, yeah, there's no way there's any water left on that planet. That too is funny. Because how does that even happen?

It's that thing of like, okay, it's got, it's so extreme and it's so big that the rules of how a planet would even survive or people on a planet would survive no longer matter. there's no water on it. And yet it's covered in cities and there's billions upon billions upon billions of people there. But it doesn't matter because we have interstellar travel. So they just have what, water shipped in by the trillions of gallons every single day.

Like that's the only way it can work. But that's how it works. I mean, hey, they've got warp travel, you know, just, just, you know, phase them in from wherever your ice planet is, right? I do, I do love that because, like, it's just, it just doesn't make any sense. I, that just, you just can't happen. There's no way in hell that a planet like Terra can, can have enough water for its people brought in via ship for its sustainability. Like, it's just, I just don't think it can happen. And yet, we're, I'm, at least, I'm sitting here and being,

No, no, it's 40K. Yeah, I get it. I totally get it. Yeah, sure. I do the same thing. I just give it all a pass. It's like, yeah, this is done and it wouldn't work. But it's just understood.

This is sci-540K. It's just like, oh, yeah, sure. They've got something for that. I mean, I'm assuming that obviously, like, the water is repurposed in a way. Like, the stuff you drink will get piss and then piss. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, matter can't be removed, the usual kind of thing there. But I'm also thinking about the amount of water required for, like, you know, like,

engines. and just general machinery. True. I can't imagine how much it's going to require. Yeah. It's not just people needing to drink. It's how things are kept cool. It's how, like, even just things like going to the toilet.

Unless everything is bone dry somehow and still functioning, kind of that's a solution we've got now, right? And so it's like, how does stuff go anywhere without this? thing that we use now, is there a better solution they've found? Like, maybe, but still. That's literally what I thought I was like, oh, keep things cool. I'm sure they've just got like coolant packs that aren't made of anything with water and that's just cool stuff down. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, it's so sci-fi 40K fantasy pill that it's like, oh no, I'm sure they've invented something to bypass the need of water here. I'm just, I'm just imagining like, how does terror

handle its water problem is like the use of excessive amounts of psychers like they just they just use the warp in a contained way to create water because like that's fine like it's they're wizards, they're sorcerers in a way right? Like I just like oh I cast

water spell and now now the mechanic come as more water I don't know. They go full D&D on it just create food and water every day. Let's go. I mean they'd also need so many of them but then that's like another kind of facet of it where it's like, oh, however many souls are needed a day. But it's okay.

They're collected by the black ships, which are insanely rare to the point that no one ever really sees them. But then how does that work? Oh, wait. It's an entire galaxy and you can have 500 billion people on one world, apparently. And then suddenly it's like, oh, the economies of scale makes sense if you stop paying attention to the fact that they don't make sense. You know, I gotta be honest, like, this is going to severely affect the trout population. Okay. Also, yeah. Also, yeah, the Birch, the Birch Khalifa, that's right.

They had to, uh, ever, I had no sewer system. So they had to, to pump this shit out in massive shit trucks. I, I didn't realize they were just pumping it out of it into trucks and just, the trucks were just offloading it in. I mean, it does now, obviously. Like, it hasn't now, but still. Also, there was a horrible part of me that was like, oh, how do they get enough water? And I was like, oh, it's 40K.

Do they do some horrible thing where, like, if you are a criminal or something, they literally put you into a machine and it just processes the water out of you as it kills you. That is. Because humans are made out of water. Liquidize you. That is so, you down real smooth. That is so admec pill that I totally believe it. Right.

They just literally liquefy you and then they emulsify you and then they strain you and get the water out of your, out of your blood. I would 100% see that as an ad mech thing to a penal colony. No anesthetic. That costs money. Yeah. And you feel all well as much as you possibly could. Also, what's the best filter out there? It's the kidneys.

Luckily, we've got 500 billion people on this planet. There's an excess of kidneys. We'll just strain them all through kidneys. That'll be fine. That'll work. Let's do that. It's so funny how we had the recent episode of Dark Admec, Dark Mechanicum, and the idea that they would do this type of thing for either faction is completely believable. Yeah. Like, I would want 100% see the horrible chaos, Dark Mechanicum and just Adeptus Mechanic is doing the same thing.

It's like, time for the kidney factory. we're out of, we're out of, adamantium. We need, we need to filter the water. Everyone, go to the penal colony, get me 9,000 kidneys. And that'd probably be pretty easy to get to. Oh, just 9,000 people, sure, sure, sure.

Yeah, and servitorize the rest. Yeah. And the thing is, for efficiency's sake, you could take 18,000 people and remove one, or you could just take 9,000 and remove both and have them die. And that would probably be better economically. Or just like servitorize.

You know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good God. Delightful. Oh, so good. So, mildly, it was a mild tangent, but it was all related, so it's fine. There is something that is specific to Nacramanda that I wanted to mention, which is the forbidden cities, which I did mention a little bit earlier, which on Nacremander, there is a network of tunnels.

connecting different hive cities. That way, if there's an invasion, you can move troops from one to the other, super quick. You don't have to go over the surface, you're not at risk of being shot down or intercepted. It's a great idea. However, quite a lot of them just either were forgotten or fell into disuse

or collapsed or crumbled, and they have now been kind of re-discovered reimagined as forbidden cities, which are the exclusive source of a drug called GAST. And GAST is made out of decayed corpse starch deposits. Oh, yeah. So is that gas like G-A-S-S-E-D or like G-A-S-T? Is that gas like you just...

G-A-U-S-T? I just tried to say it. Oh, wait, wait, is it like G-H-A-S-T? There you go. Like a gas. Oh, okay. Yes. Okay.

So, so yeah, there are these vast tunnels that are kind of, they've kind of become, become these areas where this drug is processed. And you might think to yourself, okay, well, that's clearly bad, right? You don't want that taking over your spiders. You don't want the hive cities falling to the use of this drug. except it's really the nobility of Necremander that are controlling the trade of GAST and they are the ones who are utilising it to just get richer basically. There's a drug here, people like the drug, we will take over the use of, the distribution of, and the manufacturer of this drug, and they have become insanely wealthy, even more than they were

before, to the point where some of these forbidden cities are like literal palaces filled with the most insane works of art, like opulence, kind of retreats for the rich and the wealthy whilst the normals, the plebs,

you just random guys, get annihilated by a drug made from corpse starch. Sadly, that is the least surprising thing I've heard all day, is that the drug trade is controlled by the upper echelon nobles as a way to get more money of the people. Like, yeah, that sucks, but it's like, yeah, that tracks. The thing is, it's also such a horrific, like, risk gassed. So because it's made from corpstarch, it's got human proteins in it.

and when you ingest it, it can awaken psychic abilities. Uh, can. It can. Or it can draw a person's soul into the warp. Whoa. Wait,

oh, because it could be made out of like condensed psycher. Yep. Oh, so you actually corpse starched like a laden psycher that didn't realize that. And then you're like, mm, do you eat this like bar or whatever?

and just get sucked into the warp. It's a favorite of like ingesting, condensed human, but of course, humans are psychically active. They may not be awakened, but like the race as a whole, the species as a whole, they have the ability to draw on psychic powers, and they can kind of peer into the warp and harness that. To the point where, you know, thousands upon thousands of sacrifice today,

gasped, it can either kind of wake someone up and be like, I'm psychic now. Or their soul can just get sucked into the warp. Which either way, I feel like that's not something you necessarily want in your hive city if you are a noble. You know? Definitely not. Is this just the case of them getting sucked into the warp? Or does it actively open a warp portal?

They get sucked out and maybe some demons come through. From what I've been able to find, it just seems like they become all limp and floppy and the soul's gone. Oh, okay. So it's not like a demonic incursion every time. But even then, it's not great. It's not ideal. No, definitely. But, I mean, unfortunately, I'm like, oh, well, I can see how, like, the upper echelon kind of don't care then, right?

Because, like, oh, what, someone that's using gas just got, you know, and sucked into the warp. Eh, no skin off my back. I made, like, a hundred grand off him. Yeah, too bad so sad. Bring me another picture of ice ice. water, right? Abelard, murder the poor. Yeah.

Thanks, Avalard. Also, what is this spikers? Like, like, like, yes. Like the brute spiker from Halo 3? Uh, absolutely not.

Come here. Come here. Is the, is that? Oh, what is that? Oh, that mini goes so hard. What is this mega mine looking shit? Oh, So it's so good.

So, on Necremander, you have House Delac, and they are, they are able to create their own psychers called Spikers. And the way they do that is by injecting them with gassed. Oh. I have depicted you as the soyjack and me as the big-brained gigacad cyker. look at the guy on the first photo he looks so smug about it he's like yeah my brain is enormous it's full of wrinkles yours smooth and there's so many vials of gas like it's not just pumping into like the needles in his head it has those giant uh tubes on like the back of its cape i guess that's so much gased

Oh, look, they want results, all right. So effectively, what you've got is House Delac, they have got a unique privilege that no one else has got on Necremunda, which is that they're allowed to create their own psychers. This is allowed by Lord Helmore, allegedly. That's what House Helmore says. Whether he actually said that or not is, you know, either way. It could be, it could be true, might not be.

They might be lying, we don't know. But it takes months or years to get one of these spikers. What they do is they strap someone down into a harness, basically just strap into a hospital bed, and they just inject them with gassed. Their body will atrophy, the cranium will get bigger and bigger, the ones who don't suffer like biological collapse, or spontaneous and fatal cerebellum expansion. Like, oh my God.

So some people's heads just explode because they just can't take it and it. Yeah, the head just expands too much. Yeah. Great. They just, they basically pop like a balloon full of water. A given mouth valves and then conditioned by House Delac to serve as leaders of their gangs. And at that point, they are insane. They're absolutely insane.

They don't know what's happening, or they can hear like all thoughts within hundreds of meters in all directions, which because they're in a hive city, that can mean thousands upon thousands of minds and thoughts simultaneously, all constantly talking into the spiker's head. So they're not well adjusted. Also, so they're not even taking like latent psychers. They're just taking anybody strapping him to a table and just pumping him full of the gas. Oh, yeah. Just anyone really. Because gas can awaken it in anyone. So, you know, just random bloke walking down the street late at night, he's gone.

He might be aghast or you might have his head explode. It could be one of the two, not a gas, a spiker, but. And you're in a hive city. So you have plenty of people that, who cares if they, go missing. There's 500 billion of us. Yeah. It's like, okay, well, you were in the under hive, that means your fair game

because there's no more enforcement there effectively. I mean, that's the other thing as well. The under hive, it's not like specific to necrumander. It looks like, from what I can tell, it seems as though hive cities generally follow a very similar pattern, no matter the planet they're on. A necrimander is like

a good kind of template for that. But the lower down, you live, the worse it is. So by the time you get into the underhive, like, law enforcement is basically nothing down there. It's roving gangs usually sponsored by the houses of the middle of the spire, searching out archaeotech, vying for power, you know, doing anything they can to remain relevant and or strong in this environment. And so the under hive is just, it's just a place for exiles and maniacs to fight it out constantly day after day. Cool.

I love it. Yeah. It's so good. I love a place that sounds worse than literal hell. I love horribly depressing options currently available to us. It's the greatest. Oh, yeah, you never get tired of them in 40K. You never get tired of them.

that's what makes this setting good it does it kind of is though like unironically it kind of is because it's just so depraved and it's like where else are you going to get this level of just right see in gw they always hire a guy you see he's the he's the the the fucked up guy

it's a special kind of guy and this guy spends his whole life thinking just like sitting there with a pen like quill or something you're just like how do I like write the worst thing I've ever thought of in my life? Like you know, like you know when you're just walking down the street and your brain has like the worst thought imaginable?

Like for some reason, your brain will just spike and be like, I wonder what happens if like bombed this place. You know? And it just happens for no reason. Like there's nothing about it. There's no reason for it. It just occurs.

And then that guy does it and then he takes it all he puts it on paper. And then he adds a 40K flare. Yeah. What a guy. What a guy. And then they, and then if they. can draw and or model they hire them to make necrumunda models.

Exactly. That's how that goes. Actually, yeah, to be fair, as Shai said, gangs keep some resemblance of order in the under hive. When you reach the sump, it's nothing but lunatics, chaos cultists, gene stealer cultists and horrible monsters. It's kind of like, in a way, the lawlessness only really applies to the house gangs because they just fight each other and kid each other.

but you also can't really do anything without their say-so. So in a weird way, they are keeping order kind of, but they're also vying for power and vying for the amount of archaeotech and random good resources and weapons and all sorts of nonsense that you can find in hive cities is improbable, but it's one of the things that makes them so fun. So there's a lot of fighting over territory, over,

over artifacts, that sort of thing. Um, it's, it's when you get like below the under hive into the crushed lower layers and forgotten foundations that things get really sort of just off the wall mad. Yeah. Yeah. Lovely.

I love it. It's so fun. So good. It's such a, it's such a level of like, ah, it's like a warm blanket. It's just like,

it's a nice, like, comfy blanket of like, we're back into just the horrifying world of Warhammer It's like it's a warm, comfy blanket of skin Yeah, you know, it's like something I'm sitting there with like a big blankie With some hot chocolate I'm there like watching arcane

And just like ah, what human misery I love it here That's the problem Everybody wants to be your enemy Insert cat Yeah Yeah Oh yes

So Spyr is Hang on, I've got a picture because I love the spires. The spires are fantastic. So, kind of like, the nobles can get bored. The nobles want to do stuff. They want to go and prove themselves. So you have spirers,

which are kind of like the youths of noble houses. They have really nothing that they, they can get whatever they like. They don't know, like, hunger or kind of financial strain. can just do whatever they like. They're nobles, and they live at the top of the spire, so it's whatever they need. But they will go into the lower levels to hunt, to try and prove themselves. They get insane, expensive suits of armour, and they go down and they make a name for themselves in the lower levels of the hives, because they want to. They don't need to. They could just live

life of luxury. But no, they go down having been like surgically altered to fit into these insane combat suits so that they can go and murder people and all weird things in the depths of the hive cities. Wait, so they're just like, I'm so bored of being so rich. I want to kill. Ah, I need to kill. Pretty much. Yeah. To be fair, that mini slaps though. Minnie's cool. It's, it's Very, um, like the, like the, uh, the, wasn't the most dangerous game or whatever, kind of has that like similar vibe where it's just like they've done so much. They can do whatever they want. Like, what's one thing they can't do a lot of murder?

Turns out you kind of can though. So when you say they go in, oh, I'm about to make a name for myself, like, are they specifically going for like, like are they looking to actually like help people by like killing like say they're a mutant psycher down there? Oh, okay. Absolutely not. They don't care about that. Okay.

Just just making sure we're on the same page here. So they're just going down there killing anything that moves because ha ha ha, he, he, he, I want to kill. I mean, yeah. Okay. So to give you an idea, this is, this is Lady Hera Helmore. she initially made a name for herself by being an absolute psychopath who despite being the daughter of Lord Helmore, the ruler of Necrimander, just went into the underhite, like went into the sump, the under hive and just started, she wanted to murder people. She liked playing the game, the game being, can I stab you quick enough that I don't die first?

So, you know, she's an absolute psychopath and she sort of went down primarily just for. or the love of the game, the game being killing people. Now, things changed slightly. When Hive Secundus became more available, and people could go into Hive Secundus, which is a demolished, broken hive, is full of mal-strain gene stealers. So they are gene-stealers that have been infected by a genetic disease

that was concocted to try and wipe them out. Instead, it just made them all creepy and weird. and some of the best miniatures Games Workshop has ever made. Just as a side note, Lady Helmore was like, oh, brilliant, a new challenge. So she had herself surgically altered

to wear that suit so that she could go and hunt. She is a nutter. She's an absolute psychopath in the best way. So it's like, okay, killing people is all fine and good, but this mal-strain stuff, there's also artifacts

I could maybe get. Please do chop off my legs above the knee so I can wear this Archaeotech suit and go in fights aliens up close and personal. I... I won't lie.

It is kind of... I mean, there's rich, and then there's... I've got two servo skulls lifting up my, like, robes, rich. Though I have to say, the thing that I like the most about that many because I think it absolutely slaps

is the fact that she can't see shit like how is she turn her head Jack, it's so puffed. Yep. That's part of the challenge, man.

That's part of the challenge. It's so puffy. She's got television. It's so puffy. She can't like turn left or right. She has to turn like Michael Keenan's back man. He has just turned the whole way around. Oh yeah,

yeah, yeah. It's just, I don't know. It's just so funny to me. So cool, though, such a good mini. The mech is really cool, I won't lie. Yeah, they're great. And the ones are just put in those are the Maltrained Gene Steelers.

So they're all deformed and messed up. Those are rocking. Yeah, those are really cool. I would like them for replacement for Tierra Jean Steelers personally. Yeah. Yeah, they're great. I bet Necromunda models get, like, proxy. he did in a lot, right, for, um, like 40K games.

Cause, whew, those are dope. Hairas cruel and manipulative nature greatly aided her when she killed six of her surviving siblings after they foolishly attended a family meeting she had called. Ah, yes, foolishly attending the family meeting. You should know better than to come to the family barbecue. Come on. I was about to say like, oh, yeah, like, of course, how, how dare you? What you've known, I would have killed you? Don't you know me but at all?

Come on. That's so silly. Invincible Season 1, episode 1 vibes for that one for me. To be honest. Spoiler alert, I guess, for like what, two years ago? When did that come out? It was more than that, wasn't it? Everybody knows the horrors of episode 1 of Invincible.

Like, that got memed on so hard when it came out and it got so, yeah, nobody doesn't know about that. Oh, so good. So there are other hive worlds, and there's just, there's a couple that I wanted to, wanted to mention. So Necramunder is like the kind of template for it. It's the most well known, because, of course, I was going to say Necremondra is set on Necremunda, but that's a stupid thing to say, because clearly,

we did talk about Land Under earlier, just briefly, which I, the name is fine, and it makes sense, and it makes sense, but it just makes me think of that song that I can't remember who sang it about I come from a land down under and... Well, women roll and men thunder. Yeah, I just get that in my head

every time I see it, which is not helpful. No, but that's okay. We're here for you. It's just, it's catchy, but not necessarily in a good way. So as Hive Worlds go, it's not the most highly populated, but that is because

Land Under is a absolutely insane world. One of my favorite things that I've ever read from 40K, and I wouldn't have known if it wasn't for researching this episode. So it's called that because the geography's inverted. The planet has got a crust that just floats freely on a chemical ocean. So it just kind of rolls around. but there are eight hive cities that are built on the underneath of the crust

with a ninth that has spires that extend above the waterline and a down spire that reaches nearly to the bottom of the ocean. So you've got like kind of continent-shaped land. Okay, so you've got like continent-shaped land. But they are floating. They're not anchored to anything. They like kind of shift around the world. And instead of the hive cities being built on top of them,

they are built on the underside of them. So that instead of reaching for the stars, they're reaching for the core of the planet. Oh, wow. That must be a trippy. Please tell me there's art. That's it. What you see from shy there, that's it.

Which is so sad because it's so cool. That sounds like it would be the coolest looking thing ever. It's crazy. Outside of the other painful parts of it, you know, naturally. The other more difficult issues that go along with it. So they produce, they make cybermastiffs. and they mine the oceans for crystals, which they then trade. And that's the whole world.

There's nine cities. They're on the wrong side of the land masses, so they're pointing in, not up, and that's the whole thing. Is there any reason they can't build on top of them? Is it just because, like, oh, yeah, because they're floating, they just can't? Or? If there's a reason, it's not given. I think it's because they're so flimsy,

but then you'd think if they're that flimsy, why build them on the underside, which is arguably even worse, but I think we're back into the, we're back into the thing of, eh, it's 40K, whatever. Yeah.

I was just thinking, like, the only thing that would be cool than that is if there were five cities built on, like, both ends, so they were like just,

they look like a mirror image of themselves, because they were just coming, they're going below and above. That would be badass, to be fair. So we, Oh, well.

I really wish there was art for it. It feels unfair. We did also mention Minia, which has got the population of 154 billion, which is by itself stupid. So they have a 2 million strong garrison. They export 1,249,000 people a year for the guard. And at one point, at one point, some cheeky so and so. called Gooter Inverin opened a warmth rift at the top of a hive tower. Oh. Was Guter a, like, noble, or was he just some dude who wanted to stick it to the man? Rogue Psycho.

Rogue psychic just decided, you know what? I'm summoning a keeper of secrets. Let's go. Smoking duck gif, classic. Classic. Ah, classic. Classic.

But it was. okay, because a squadron of Iron Knights led by this is the best name I've ever come across for a commander. Commander, golden dag morning star. Is he a fucking,

is he a fucking orc? Sounds like an org name. It actually does. So yeah, they just went and killed the cycle and it closed the riff and it was fine. But for a second there, Miner and got some, got some real excitement

got some real excitement they were stoked they were like ho ho let's go oh no okay okay land under art for decay by shy age nine shitty ocean

this way to space floating crust under hive hive spire thanks shy actually is that how I don't know why I thought land under was actually like two separate words also

it was like it was land space capital you under. Let's add two circles next to a floating crust and then we have Squidward's nose. Come from a land down under. Kieria, let's just talk about the next thing, please. I just miss red floating crust as something

more bleepable and it really I don't know where I am now. It's really messed me up. I got to be honest, shy. That high spire is looking like a little too big. I think we should really take that down a notch. I'm getting a little

self-conscious. Yeah, same. It's just unrealistic, isn't it? Oh, sure. Can't just be throwing that out. Yeah, that's, I'm starting to get a little like a sad. Anyway, so, Karioth,

what are you, we, what's next, buddy? Let's do one more, one more hive world, which is, which is horonis, coronis, sorry, Coronis Agathon. I,

look, this is a mild tangent again. I love the world building in 40K. I love the names. I utilize a lot of the naming conventions from 40K in my D&D campaigns. But when you've been reading them for, you know,

a good couple of days, it starts to blur into a mess of pronunciations that you know aren't right, but at the same time, you can't. can't help but overanalyze and get it wrong more than you get it right. Do you know what I mean? Like you see something and you go, that's a normal word.

They've just put is on the end of it. And then I get it wrong again. It makes me sad. Me, when Necron's add KH to literally everything they do. Yeah. It's 40K. Nobody knows how to pronounce anything in this damn thing. You're fine.

It's true. The primary mark of the Ultramar Marines is literally entirely about that. That's true. And nobody can pronounce his name. I'm still in favour of him, I'm just calling him Robert. I've heard Roberts so many times. Just Robert.

And I'm like, I can see it, to be honest. The lion waking up and be like, damn me up, Bob. Like, oh, hmm. Just call him Bobby Ultra. And that's fine. We don't need anything else. So, the world of Coronis Agathon.

It's notable because there are 10 million Imperial Guard soldiers on it. Right. So it's a hive. It's technically a fortress world, but it's also got hive cities on it. And it's garrisoned by 10 million Imperial Guard. And during the Dark Age of Technology and the Age of Strife, it just got through those. Totally fine. Survive them, no worries.

And then, during the Great Crusade, it was brought into the Imperium by an expeditionary fleet and a family of rogue traders, which is a cool detail. At that point, it became a really important hub for the Imperium. So it ended up being like the kind of centre of multiple other planets called the Agathian domain. At which point, it also became well known for its solar auxiliary cohorts. so the heresy equivalent of Imperial Guard regiments, except then the horse heresy happened. And there was an actual little debate

as to which way things should go, except the rogue traders, the family that initially delivered this planet to the Imperium, led a coup and sided with the emperor and wiped out a bunch of naysayers. Let a coup to sigh with the emperor. Yep. Which kind of gives an idea as to which way that was heading, doesn't it, the wording of that?

Yeah, yeah. Well, thank God they chose the winning side. And they still go in today. Clearly, the right decision was made. I feel like they would still be going today, even if they made the wrong decision. It would just be under new management, as they tend to be. But, yeah. There is one more that I just.

I cannot find the note that I made for it, but I remember specifically there being a hive on a world, and I can't remember which world it was, and it's really annoying me, where it's a hive city that is led by a group of democratically elected council members, which for 40K is an insane statement, and other hives on that world have tried to, like unseat their like ruling council and have been unable to do so.

But I love the fact that democracy, that's a no-no. You can't go around doing that. We've got to get rid of them. We've got to kill them. Depose them, whatever it takes. But they're persevering. No, so they're not, they're not dead yet. The democracy is still alive.

It's still going. It's still going. I wish I could find that, I wish I could find the name of the name of the world, but there is a, there is a hive city, potentially one out of God knows how many that have a democratically elected council and they are governing the people. Just the one, no more. Just that one place. That's lovely. I love that idea. It's just like, ah, fantastic. We just have this one democratic system and I'm sure I give it maybe like two books before the Inquisition arrives and they're like

yeah and get rid of them. Nah, we ain't doing that. All right. Overthrow it. Bring in the Guard, send it out. That's not how this works. Get out. The Inquisition, the Inquisition are too busy with other stuff than to worry about democracy on one hive world, right? Turns out all the the, I was going to say Democrats, but that's just what democracy comes from. All of the the phrasing. All of the democratically elected officials are all Jean Steeler Colts.

Aha. They have three arms and everything. It was all a ploy by an enemy. That probably makes the most sense as to why that one place has democracy. Yeah, it's all just nonsense.

Yeah, it's all just a ploy set up by the tyrannids to one day come and conquer it. Yeah. They're just waiting for the right generation to get it. there. Chai is right though. I mean, so long as they're paying, they're tied. I don't think they give a shit. Yeah, yeah. They'd have no reason to go there as long as the goods are coming through. How many guard are you sending? That many? All right. Well, yep, checks out. There it is.

Knocked that off the paper. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. Lovely. Lovely 40K. It's a good time. It's a good. Well, it's a right time for us to be reading. Exactly. It's a bad time for them. Yeah, you don't want to be there, but, you know, I love the learning. I dislike the pain or being a part of the pain. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I would hope to not be a beast submitted to this level of ridiculousness. Yeah, I like being on the rear side. You mean a debt is ridiculous. Oh, no. Hey, let's go. I'm not enough to do that. Let's go. We haven't done that bit in a while, though.

Oh, it's been so many episodes as well. And I did it. And then immediately, like, did you hear I run out of energy halfway through the way. I didn't. But you were just like, I do. The will to live

shattered. Brought down? I wasn't going for any other reference there, bud. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. Let the, sending you to land under.

Standard ending at this point for these ones, isn't it? Oh, we not have any more? Are we, are we done? I mean, we're running, we're running pretty long. I feel like, I feel like you've got the, you've got the, you've got the gist of it. Yeah, it's a horrible nightmare of too many people in a small space.

And if you go outside, you die. Ah. So, you know. So, it's like much what I'm doing right now. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for a city name or just, yes, it's now. Yeah, I mean, you could be, pick a few. You could be like, ah, it's like San Francisco.

It's like Dallas. I wouldn't even say. London, Birmingham. Yeah. Ohio, Cleveland is the standard one too. I've just rolled up and now I'm just like, yeah, the bird cleaver does look like a hive city. But for some reason, that feels like it shouldn't be set out loud, but I'm not really sure why. I think we should ignore New York City for the most part.

I'm trying to think of particular cities. Just in general. Yeah, yeah. It's not there. I had my fair share of Italians recently on a stream. You know, I got to roll it back. But, I mean, I feel like, what is it? I want to pick cities where leaving the city is going.

like certain death. Wait a minute. Oh, it's Las Vegas. Hey. It's Vegas. Of course. Of course. Yeah. I mean, there are so many stories of people who go to Vegas gamble all of their money away and then they literally cannot afford to leave Vegas.

So they get stranded there because you can't. You can't like it's a nightmarish desert. Like it is in the middle of. Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere, isn't it? It's just. Actually nowhere. Yep. Yep. People, people forget that like 90% of California is like a massive desert.

And it's just, at least in like the second, the bottom half. And like all, everyone is stationed on the coast as you should be. And so, and so when you're making your way to Las Vegas out in the middle of Nevada, you know, it is. Yeah. You have to realize how empty California actually is. And I mean, like, Nevada is pretty empty too. But like, it's stationed there. And if you, you can totally get stranded there and there's, and you just can't get home because It's a really long walk. It's a really long walk.

When I, in order to drive to Vegas, takes me about four and a half hours as a straight shot. And it is pure, it is like nothing but pure desert. How many miles from you to Vegas? Um, it is 272 miles away from me, which is 4377 kilometers. Good proportion of the, of, of like, my audience is from the US and they marvel at how I can't get anywhere in any amount of time.

I drove 100 miles a few months ago and it took me five and a half hours and now I feel robbed even more than I did before. It's pretty okay. Did you pick that just because it goes through Penisden, Cock Alley and Sluts Hole Lane? Oh, let's not forget Cockbridge Dick Place and Cockermouth.

Oh yeah, going all the way of twat. It's important to get all the way to twat from Shitterton. Let's not forget asshole. Are this real? I can't, I don't know if they're real. There is no way. There is no way.

They're real. They're real. I don't know how to phrase this. I don't know how to say it without like sounding like I'm making some sort of joke. I have been to Cockermouth. It's a real place. All my willpower, dude. there's only so much I can do right also this is all going in the bloopers right shy

like right I don't know I don't know I'm having I think this is good also like okay just just to I mean we talked about this before Keriath like you got to look at the comparison California's a lot but you think yeah yeah also you have like mountains and stuff

anytime I see someone say oh yeah I took a road trip and it's 500 miles I'm like, yeah, but we can't go 50 miles without hitting roadworks that limit you to 30 miles an hour. So how am I supposed to get anywhere in this tiny ass country? Oh, I said ass, not ass.

Oh, that feels like a betrayal. Oh, you're slowly going to us now. We've got him, Rick. We've got him. Let's go. All right, everyone's out via Shitterton. Shub him into Shitterton and make him never be able to leave.