Adeptus Ridiculous - Horus Heresy [GONE WRONG] | Origins of Warhammer 40k

Episode Date: January 27, 2021

#warhammer #40k #adeptusridiculoushttps://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculousThe Horus Heresy was a galaxy-spanning civil war that consumed the worlds of Mankind for 9 Terran years. Its outbreak marked the end of the Emperor of Mankind's Great Crusade to reunite the scattered colony worlds of humanity under a single government and the beginning of the current Age of the Imperium. The Horus Heresy is in many ways the founding event of the Imperium of Man as it now exists.Support the show

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Adeptus Ridiculous. I'm D.K., and I'm running out of metaphors for how I know very little about Warhammer. So we're just going to get into this episode because, you know, I've been finding it so very difficult to remember what's happened in these episodes because they're spaced so far apart. Two weeks is just like, man, what possibly happened in the last episode? Bricky, is there any way you could help amend this problem? I got this like this like shit eating grin on my face because that was a really good segue. And I'm like, nice job, D.K. Good one. It's a good way to segue into the fact that we hit $1,000 on Patreon, which means weekly episodes shall be coming out from here and into the future.

And as promised, this is literally the morning after we hit 1,000 and we record the next episode. Because I said we said we would do that in the last. one and we are men and women of our words. We are, we are. Well, shy might be an Eldritch horror, so we don't know, you know. We truly don't know what shy is, but, you know, I'm covering my bases. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. We're going to be talking a lot about bases today.

And burning them down and raising them and how all the people in them got massacred and destroyed and brutally tortured in a way that only Warhammer can do, I'm sure. It's the Horace Harris you might do. This is the big one. But I got to wait before we get into that because we got a shout on out. So, yes, we hit 1,000 on Patreon. Giant, giant fist bumps. No hand holds, you know, it's COVID.

To all the people. You got to do the elbow. The elbow bumps. Do the hip bump. Bumbo bumps. Yeah, yeah, head bumps. Sure, sure. Wear your masks when you do it.

Make sure, absolutely. Double, double bag it if you got to. Yeah. You got to be alive to hear, to hear. here at depth is ridiculous. Oh yeah. Yeah. Stay safe. So with that we had a fantastic milestone. It has been absolutely fantastic. A huge shout out to those over at the Discord server as well. They are fantastic people. We'll be having some great conversations with them. Of course, being a part of the Patreon, we'll get you access to the Discord server. And really,

we've just been having an absolute blast over there. But not only that, but it's a perfect time now, too, this is the one. This is the Horacea. Yeah, this is the Horace heresy. This is the big one. This is arguably the most important single event in all of Warhammer lore. I mean, you might be like, ah, Necronns and all ones and stuff. You know, that's pretty dang big, but we're talking about the fact that there are 11 books,

because if you say more than 11 as a hyperbole, people, or like actually Bricky, it's 11. Shut up. We see you comment section. We see you. We see you. We see you. But we read those comments.

That's not the point. The point. I don't have to get exact. I'm just saying there's a lot of goddamn books. Actually, truth be told, if I'm being actually lead quite often, it does mean I'm doing my job right because the whole point of this podcast is to condense everything. And if I'm actually dreading this one a little bit because the amount of actuallyes, I'm probably going to hear from this one, the horace heresy.

The biggest one is going to be rough. So I'm bracing myself. This is the topic when I first started in. I was like, oh, I like painting Warhammer minis for fun and don't care about the lore. Everyone was still like, but you should probably read the horace heresy. You should probably know what happened in the horace heresy. It's the big thing. It's, it's, it's emps.

It's depraved. It's holy shit. And, and yeah. So this, even, even, you know, If you know nothing about Warhammer, you still, you still know about the Horace heresy. And that, I mean, there's like that little famous image you get of Horace and the Emperor and, like, kind of that old, I don't know what the drawing style is, but it's pretty plastered all over the place. So, really, I had to get all of my heresy coughs out before we get really into this. You don't want to be practicing heresy while talking about the Horace heresy.

I don't play Death Guard. I'm not a Nergel, man. But with that all under wraps, I'm going to be talking about four major events in this thing. Obviously, it's probably going to be a longer episode than normal. But overall, the four main events I really want to touch on are going to be the burning of Prospero, which involves Lehman Rust and Magnus the, We did nothing wrong. Nothing. Well, we'll say about that.

We have the Isvon 3, atrocity, which is also less important compared to the Isvon 5 massacre, also known as the Dropside Massacre, which we will also talk about, but important nonetheless, as I said, drops a massacre, and then, of course, the siege

of terror and the battle on the vengeful spirit. There are plenty and oh, I do meme, plenty of things that I'll be skipping over, but I'm hoping to cover them in their various Legion episodes we do. So, for instance, like, I'm going to

say now, Mortarian and the Death Guard joined Horace in his heretical campaign to overthrow the emperor. Now, he didn't just be like, you know, I'm down for that, man. Let's do it. There's a whole thing. This douchebag name, Typhus, there's a

whole thing, but we'll talk about that a whole thing in his respective episode. The only thing what we will really cover involving that kind of thing will be the Thousand Sons which is the Magnus which is the Burning and Prospero but for everyone else the world eaters

the Iron Warriors some names that you probably don't even know they'll have their own individual episode on how they turn traitor sweet sweet looking forward to Typhus because the last episode you said his mini fucks and he's what he's kind of

like Arabis or something I think you said yeah he's at the Deathguard version of Arabis He's kind of like a douchebag. And he kind of wanted more than he got, but he's kind of the reason the Death Guard turned traitor, give or take, but he's also real stinky. Well, all the Death Guard are real stinky, aren't they? Like, they're just like, they've got stomachs that have big mouths and teeth and tongues, and they're all decaying. Yeah, nasty boys. So, let's get into this, shall we?

Let's shall. Let's shall. All right. So as time, if we do a little recap, Arribus, while, you know, it may not have all been him, he certainly helped, causing lots of problems. Lorgar received the largest public spanking of all time. And then because of that, Aramis is like,

I know some gods that don't mind worship. And so now the word bearers have basically turned traitor at this point. They're all gone. Now, also, Horace and the Lunar Wolves, or Luna wolves, he had his little vision after being shanked. You know, he saw the emperor being a horrible, horrible guy and all this bad things going on. It's like, oh, I got to, you know, he's, I got to get rid of the emperor. He's stupid. But as all these things come about and about, I'm skipping over a large portion of the recruitment of everyone.

But in the long and short of it, basically what are. main man Horace did is he got about three to four other legions to go with him. You had the sons of Horace which were the Loon of Wolves Horace's group.

You had the world eaters with Primark Angron. Can you guess what Angron's stick is? He's angry? He's so fucking angry that he removes the parts of his brain that didn't

make him angry so he could be angrier. This is not a meme. Did he really? He actually did. He just like lobotomized all of the parts of his brain that didn't make him angry,

just so he could always be angry. Yep. Angron. There's such a war hammer thing to do. I know, it's the best. Then you had the death guard. You know the death guard. You had also the Emperor's Children

with the Primark of Fulgrim, which is in competition with Sanguinius for the sexiest primark. Emperor's children do turn Slanesh at some point as well. Oh. All of that. They're like the main four, right? Horace, world leaders, death guard, emperor's children,

all those boys turn traitor. And I guess I could start off with the Isvon 3 atrocity, and then we'll move into Prospero. So basically, all these boys, they decide, you know, they've turned traitor. They've all joined Horace's crusade. And in the beginning, you know, it wasn't quite all like, it wasn't just all like, yeah, chaos gods, chaos gods, chaos gods. It was very much like a usurp the emperor civil war kind of coup. It wasn't really meant to be like, oh, yeah, blood for the blood god.

I just, I can't wait to kill people. It was very much like, it started off with that. The emperor is an unfit leader. Horace knows what he's doing better. I get rid of him. So it started off for like just reasons. Like they weren't looking to like widespread chaos and take over the universe or anything like that. It was just like, emperor is bad.

Like, we need a new leader. This is like, he's going to ruin everything. It wasn't necessarily just like, oh, yeah, spread chaos gods. Yeah, pretty much. As far as it comes out, well, I mean, obviously at that point, Horace, after his vision and accepting the ritual, he's kind of a servant of the gods. But he doesn't really know it and he's not necessarily attempting to know it, so to speak. Because, you know, obviously he's being very, very cautious of what he's trying to do. However, the first thing, and this is generally an issue that everyone tends to have,

is that whenever you do any kind of coup, you know, not everyone in your group is turning traitor. You know, like some people aren't necessarily going to turn traitor. And in fact, about two-thirds of all these various legions went traitor, but about a third of them didn't. Oh. And that's, you know, that's a problem. Now, obviously, obviously this other thing. Thirb didn't know two-thirds went Trader, but even so, they were like, okay, you know, this is a, this is a problem we got right here.

Yeah. So their simple plan, it was a very simple plan. Basically, those one-third people, they got sent down in the, I believe it's the Istvon system, is why it's Yisvon 3, Isvon 5, you know? Mm-hmm. And basically what happened is that with, with everything going on, your good man, your good man, either Biggie or, I think it was maybe Rogelorne or something. someone said, hey, there's an insurrection down here on Isvon 3.

Things got bad. The planetary governor is a shit. Something's going on. You need to take your boys and you need to attack this planet and deal with the problem, whatever the problem really was. It's not important. So they sent all of those one-third people down there. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Directly after sending all the loyalists guys down there, they virus bombed the planet. Like, of course they did. Of course they did. They just saturated it. Jesus Christ.

So the first thing they do, you gotta get rid of the loyal people. So you know what, hey guys, go down there and fight the war and then from their ships. They just went, bbubbubbubbubbbbbbbbbb. It was pretty bad. It was like, oh, oh no, here comes poison from the sky. Yikes. It was pretty... What exactly is a virus bomb?

Does it literally just... Is it just like, it decays whatever it touches or... Pretty much. It's like, it's like firing down like... I remember like white phosphorus from like Spock's the Line and shit. Oh God, it's like that? But like way worse. It would like...

It's like parasites. It eats flesh. It like burns through armor. Oh, God. That's terrible. Yeah. It basically is just like... Like, I'm going to saturate this.

I'm going to turn the planet's oxygen to anthrax. Oh, Jesus. You could just nuke them? No, you can't just nuke them. They might live. Oh, that's true. Everybody lives through the nuking in Warhammer. That's right.

There's always some asshole that survives a nuking. Look at Krieg. Yeah, the creg thrived on nuke. Yeah. And they're just guardsmen. They don't give a shit. Yeah, that's true. It's not as the, uh, it's known as the, uh, it's known as the life.

I'd for sure do it. Yeah, absolutely. This is known as the life eater virus. So. What a great name. Yeah, it's, well, here's the thing. It's genetically designed to quickly spread and destroy all organic cellular structures infects, reducing all planetary life, whether flora or fauna, to undifferentiated

organic sludge of biochemicals. Jesus. And organic gases as a byproduct, both of which are highly flammable. Oh, of course. Jesus Christ. Who made this? I don't know. Probably the Emperor.

Oh, yes. As far as I'm concerned, it's his fault. All right, cool. Everything is going to be the M's fault this episode, I think. Pretty much. Right? Yeah. So, basically, I mean, some lived, you know, some had took a shelter because I have to mention

him because if I don't, someone will, you know, Luton will be at my door with a gun. Death Guard, I think he's a captain named Nathaniel Garrow. figured out what was happening a little bit beforehand and he was like yo dudes you're about to get fucked get indoors and so a couple of people survived and they had to

they had to kind of like do a siege for a bit which cost Horace quite a bit of time which you know he was rather annoyed by that but Nathaniel Garrow and a group of he was a death guard captain with like a vessel he bailed and he was like I got it warned everybody oh my god Horace is traitor

so he he ran oh I mean I think without his actions, I think like chaos would have taken over because they would have had time to like reinforce the terror and shit. Right. So there is a pretty damn good chance that they would have won without this guy's help.

But I only mention him a little bit. I'll talk more about him when we talk about the Grey Knights and Maccador the Sigelite because he takes a big role in that. But I have to mention him because if I don't, people are going to get mad at me. So that happens. I get mad regardless. this. Who cares?

Yeah, they are. Whatever. So that happens. You know, that's what happened. They occurred. Everyone went crazy

and they went through the murder and they did their virus bombing. And then that's, that's Ysvan 3. I'm covering that one pretty quickly because it's not. I don't want to talk too much about it. But let's talk about the Battle of Prospero next. Now,

I'm not quite sure the timeline at which each of these things occur. So I might have like, oh, this may have occurred like before or after. Isvon 3. That's not really the point. It's just like these are the major events. All I do know is the Dropside Massacre and Siegatera last. So,

the Battle of Prospero. Do you know what Planet Prospero is? I know that that is Magnus and the Thousand Suns planet. Let's talk about Magnus. Yeah, let's talk about Magnus and how he did nothing wrong. They were just nerds trying to

study up on the Cykers. stuff, right? They were just nerds, a bunch of nerds. And you know what happens to nerds? They get their ass beat. So, we were all nerds by the stupid wolfy jocks. Yeah, the wolf jocks came and fucked everything up. Magnus got picked less for Dodgeball and he's like, I refuse. How dare you? So we covered the part where Magnus was like, yo, Big E, this, dad, this is some great psycher shit. And his dad's like, never do that again. Don't study psych or stuff. It's bad.

And I won't tell you why. I'm not saying why. Don't you dare do that. So Magnus went home and he was like, I'm going to do it. Because my dad's stupid and he doesn't understand. He doesn't get it. He doesn't rule my life. It's not a phase.

It doesn't understand me. But obviously Magnus was like such a powerful sorceress. Look at all of this power on my fingertips. Like, why in the hell shouldn't I use this? it's quite obvious that he he really wanted the emperor to see how powerful and useful the psychic powers are

because he wants him to you know he wants acceptance from his from his dead and so he decided to reach into the warp and he tried to get like a vision or he had a vision yeah and his vision he saw everything he saw a horse he saw horse turn traitor he saw the death guard

all the legions mobilizing he saw everything and he was like, oh no. Oh my God. But ironically, the one thing he didn't see was his own fate. Only one person. Only one person didn't know what happened

and it was him. He saw Horace. He saw everyone, but he didn't see what happened to him, which was obviously the work of our good friend Zinche, the trickster douchebag he is. Because Zeech decides to be a little asshole and mess around with fate quite a bit, as we know.

Well, if Magnus had seen what he was to become, this whole thing would also have been prevented, I suppose. Exactly. So what Magnus did is like, I need to warn the emperor immediately. And now, and at the same time, what he could have done is just traveled to Terra. Or pick up the phone and call dad. Come on. Yeah. Just pick up the phone.

Just pick up the phone. He didn't want to do that. And this is probably why people call Magnus an idiot because he didn't do this. Oh, he wanted, he wanted to prove the usefulness and the power of his psychic abilities. He wanted to prove how useful and important this kind of thing is. And he wanted to, I'm going to prove it to my dad. So what he did was instead of flying there, he reached out to the emperor psychically. He decided to speak to him.

him from a long distance that way because the emperor is also a psychic you know he is it works big psycher he's a big psycher so what magnus did is he actually ended up creating like a like a version of himself almost like a hollow projection right dead center in the imperial palace right next to his dad through all the warp manifesting and all that craziness and he was like dad shit's fucked horace turned traitor everything's gone to shit everything is oh my God, it's so bad. Holy crap. What do you think the emperor did?

Um, I would assume, uh, at first hearing that his best boy Horace turned traitor, he'd be like, fuck you. That's bullshit. Um,

and not believe it. Uh, close. Uh, I mean, I mean, pretty much. Basically,

the emperor we were talking was working on the Webway project, right? Mm-hmm. But in order to be, uh, make the Webway project. He need a gigantic psychic barrier to stop demons from causing him problems.

Oh, right. And so, do you know what Magnus's little stunt did? Doesn't it, like, collapse the whole fucking thing? He took a sledgehammer to one of the windows. And then all of, like, the chaos warp shit goes crazy and, like, don't, like, what is it, like, thousands of psychers just instantaneously, or something. Yep, a shitload of Cycars and the Imperial Ballas just straight up die.

And all, and Malcador was like, oh, no, what the hell? This is bad. Basically, he blew a giant hole in his freaking Webway project, and now demons can get in. Yep. And now, which means demons can enter, like, like, Terra, like Earth. Right where he's standing. And it's like, Magnus, you dumbass. He didn't know.

He didn't. If Ems was like, hey, you know, if you, if you do this, you know, you're going to punch a hole in this thing and it's going to ruin the project and terror's going to be kind of fucked and, you know, he could have warned him. Even more than that. Like, Magnus didn't know what he was building on terror because Ems didn't tell him why he left. Yeah, that's true. He didn't, he had no reason to be cautious of it. No, he had no idea. So, naturally, this forces the emperor to now.

stay on like the golden throne to constantly keep the demons out like never-endingly but the emperor is furious not only for fucking up his project but also he's like magnus specifically went against his orders yeah he said he said don't do psychic shit and and then he's like i'm gonna warn my dad through psychic shit like no how did you think he was gonna react so basically with that, the emperor now being forced to be on the throne to keep the demons out the whole time because of the giant hole he created went to Lehman Russ and he was like, hey Lehman Russ, I need you to go, like Magnus is obviously the traitor.

Look what he's done. You need to go capture him and bring him back to Terra for justice. And Lehman Russ is like, yeah, I'll get. that fucking nerd dude. Yeah, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof. I don't know why I could just picture just like all of like Lehman Russ and his whole, uh, what is he, the space wolves? Space wolves. All just going, whoop, whoop, whoop, like, you know, uh, uh, I don't see, fisting the air, but yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, they all, they all have the one hand in the air and they're just like, woof, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. So, on his way to prospero.

Now, Magnus right now realizes kind of what he did. And he's like, oh, man. Ah, darn him. So, yeah, he kind of just, he just chilled. And eventually, uh, Lehman Russ and his full on fleet of the space wolves ended up orbiting the planet. But what Magnus didn't do, and he used his psychic powers to this, he made it so that they were not aware of the space wolves, like, arrival. So when the space world's got, it's like kind of like a penance, right? As kind of like an idea, like I'm very sorry for what I've done.

I have made a horrible error. So like his orbital batteries, his anti-aircraft cannons, all that stuff was not activated at all. So they wouldn't even defend themselves when their retribution came. They would just take it as sort of like penance? Well, so originally Space like Lehman Rust's plan or his orders were to capture Magnus and bring him back to justice Along the way This this guy called Horace

Not known by the by Lehman Russ to have turned traitor was like yeah Lehmann new orders Emperor wants you to fucking burn his place to the ground and kill Magnus Oh And Lehman Russ was like who, who, who, who, who, who, yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go. I mean, Magnus and Lehman did not like each other. Lehman in particular did not like Magnus.

He thought all that witchcraft sorcery shit was a bunch of malarkey. He hated all the book reading. He's like, why aren't you fighting and got wolves and shit? Why are we some kind of nerd? Like, they did not like each other. And so for him, he's like, all right. I guess I'll kill him. Levin Russ is such a jock.

Oh my gosh. He's not a very good guy. No. He may be sure that done what he did. Yeah, he's, oh, oh, boy. I didn't like Lehman Russ before. Don't really like him now. He's a bit of a jock.

He's a bit of an asshole. So Levin Russ, with everything going on, and Horace was like, yeah, kill him all. And Lehman Russ was like, all right. He then began opening up an orbital bombardment on Parspero and with, and the Thousand Suns were caught woefully off guard by this. I imagine so since all their stuff was turned off. Like they, they suffered casualties in like the hundreds of thousands. Like all the civilians.

It was, it was real bad. It was an absolute slaughter. And by the time they actually kind of, because they were all sorcerers. they have these giant pyramids and stuff on their planet, hence why they have that Egyptian theme. Yeah, yeah. And they had like, eventually when they kind of got their stuff better,

when they start kind of regrouped, they were able to create like psychic force field bubbles. You play massive, like biotic barriers and ships. Sure, sure. Stuff like that to keep people away. And then eventually, you know, I'm paraphrasing a lot because this is a big bow. I'm purchased like a whole book or two or 12.

I don't know. Don't actually me. But, you know, eventually the tide turns a little bit and then like, okay, the Thousand Sun's psychic powers are starting to really cause space world's problems. But then did I talk about the sisters of silence at all?

I don't I don't think so. So, do you know what a blank is? Did I talk about a blank? Or a pariah? I don't think I did. Okay, long story short, everyone has a soul in the warp, right? Okay.

These are people who have a genetic fault where they don't have a soul in the warp. And so if you're near them, you experience large amounts of like being uncomfortable. Like, like it's almost like they're radiating, like a massive aura of uncomfortableness and you don't like them. The sisters of silence in particular are like, they're all mute or they choose not to speak, but they work with the custodians for the emperor. Their main goal, though, is anti-psycher because it may make a normal person uncomfortable, but a psycher like loses their fucking minds. Like all of these sorcerers were trying to attack. and then the Sisters of Silence came by.

And it's like a giant null zone of like removing your soul from the area. So all of the sorcerers started like like puking blood and they started like scratching at their helmet next to try to pull their helmets off because they couldn't breathe. They're like ripping the flesh from their throats. Oh God. It's like any kind of death is preferable to a psycher being near any kind of like blank. It's horrible. It makes you go insane. You'd rather pull your eyes out

than actually be near these people. They're pretty awful. Jesus. They're pretty freaking awful. They look really cool, though. The sisters look pretty great. The sisters are silence, that is. Should I put up a couple pictures in the Discord?

They are very cool. They're super cool looking. But eventually they deployed those, and then the psychers of Magnus got even more fucked up. And during this entire time, during this long battle, Magnus is just kind of chilling in his big pyramid, like not fighting, not taking a part of it

because he really just didn't know what to do. Wow, really? He was just chilling because like, I don't know what to do. I guess I'll just let everybody die. He's like, he wants to have penance for what he did, but at the same time, you know, his legions dying. And he really just, he didn't know what to do because if he went out to attack back,

that would kind of cement himself as the traitor. Yeah, it sure would, wouldn't it? Yeah, like, obviously you could say that these guys are defending themselves, but Magnus is coming back, Like, that could be a big part. So, oh, yeah. Eventually, after enough time, he went to his,

uh, he closed his advisor or a captain or something. It's a guy named Aramon. And Aramon, he's like, A, I'm Aramon. He got this, this crazy jewel, all right? And it looks like a scarab or something in a big old fucking pyramid. When it, uh, I want you to go there and do this ritual. And he's like, what the hell will do? He's like, don't worry.

You'll know what to do when you do the ritual. Don't worry, buddy. Don't worry about it. Sure. In Warhammer, when someone says, don't worry, immediately I, as the listener, I'm like, oh boy, I'm worried. I'm worried. I'm real worried now. So then came the big, the big hardcore moment, which was Magnus coming out of his little temple, clad in his giant golden armor and his nipple horns.

And he just came on out and he just started bodying people. just like mind lightning bolts like ripping people apart with all of its psychic powers glaving like you know man just out there but then your boy leman russ came and this becomes one of the more iconic fights is the leman is the wolf versus the crimson king and then you had your your leman russ versus versus magnus fights and did they go hard they went so hard fucking Magnus

did all of his lightning powers and all of his psychic powers but even Russ he's just he's such a savage he's so fast and he's so tough he's can I don't know

you have that part in the Dark Night Rises and most of the fight scenes the Dark Night Rises I don't think are like particularly fantastic but there's like an ending fight between Bain and Batman

and Bader is just like swinging like mad he like breaks like a pillar something. It's like Lehman Russ is like that times 10. He's just, he's a flurry. He's just a blur. And after enough time, like, they suffered so many injuries.

If I'm not mistaken, Lehman Russ dislocated and snapped one of Magnus's arms so he couldn't do all his stuff. I think he shanked one of his eyes out. Jesus! Yeah, because he has like his his eye is a big important psycher thing.

And so he was just like shank. Shank. Shank. I think Lehman Russ got punched in his breastplate so hard. It shattered and destroyed one of his hearts. Because they have multiple hearts because they're fancy fancy. Yeah. And then, of course, in true Jock Lehman Russ fashion,

he lifts up a broken, bloodied Magnus and then fucking drives him into his knee. and performs a good old backbreaker. Ah, he gives him the Batman break, huh? He does it. He does the good old all the way over his head right over the knee, and he breaks his damn spine. Break your back and make you humble. That's more of the constant memes is like,

Magnus's spine being broken. It's always a constant joke. Poor Magnus. Poor Magnus. So Magnus is like super psycher, right? Oh yeah, hardcore. Is there a reason they didn't just send one of the sisters of silence to just be like sup and just make him go like stir crazy because he's a cyker and Well, I mean don't they fuck up psychers? They do, but as with psychic energy is anything like that there's always like levels

You know like sisters of silence might might really harm Magnus but it's not necessarily going to be like his full kryptonite Whereas like lesser cykers would have lots of problems maybe demons would have lots of problems but it's the same reason why Lehman Russ, even though he was getting attacked by psychic energy, and even though Lehman Russ is not a psycher, because normally you want like a psycher to fight a psycher, he's just, he's too strong, he's too tough. Oh, okay, so Magnus is at such a different level that it just doesn't. Yeah, pretty much, yeah, I say that, yeah, a whole new level. I go with that.

Yeah, he's in a whole new world, yeah. I wasn't really thinking, I was thinking about, maybe he's just like a certain, he's got like blessings of Zinch. I'm like, no, I think he just is at a different level. Okay. So after the great backbreaker, after the wrestling move and everything, and then all the wolf boys are back there like, ooh, woo, woo. Aramon led his slightly over 1,000. Eh, eh?

Remaining, remaining members of the thousand sons. Ah, yeah. Look at that. Look at those guys. Would have known. Yeah. I like to call him the thousand sands. About to be

So Aramon went up To the jaded like the little jade in the breastplate And as Magnus was like basically just about to die As Lehman Russ was about to shank the shit out of him He said to Aram and he's like Quote this is my last gift to you And as that last psychic spell that Aramon cast him Aram cast him

All the rest of the Thousand Suns and Magnus just Disappeared Oh. Sent right into the warp. Oh. Just, okay. Yep, right into the eye of terror and materialize onto a demon world known as the planet of sorcerers. Oh, well, that seems like a good place for them to be.

I mean, if you've got to be somewhere in the demon world, then you're Magnus and the Thousand Suns. I guess, you know, that's an okay vacation spot, right? I'd say it's decent. Yeah. Now, I'm not, I don't want to... You could be dead. I'm not going to get too far into how they turn into dust and everything. But, you know, they're all dust now.

They're all dusty boys, yep. Most, pretty much all of them. I think besides like Aramond and a few. But at this point, this is basically when Magnus was like, I have nothing. At this, I have nothing. My father has betrayed me. my brother has nearly killed me there is literally only

one avenue I can go and that's to be a servant of Zich Oof Like this this truly is the last Either he was tricked into it Or simply put he chose it Because like he was Magnus they say did nothing wrong

Because he was literally backed into a corner Yeah What else could he have done? Other than die Yeah That's really good the only choice he had, right? Yeah, like, what are you going to do?

Be like, I should have died, a loser. Lehman Russell's like, yeah, you should have died, bitch. Oh, yeah, he's, he's pissed. Levin'nman Russell's so pissed. He was so excited for that death. He wanted to, like, take his head and make it like a trophy, you know? It's wolf boys. They're like Vikings.

Oh, yeah, he probably would. He probably would make a big old trophy out of Magnus, too. Yeah, hell, yeah. He had no despair. Like, a lot of times in the heresy, the brothers fighting brothers are like, they don't feel good about it. But even Ross was like, yeah, backbreaker! Woo!

I'm on my trophy, bitch. As the Undertaker. A pile driver. So that was basically the burning of Prospero. We'll talk a little bit more about it when we talk about the Thousand Sons. But yeah, good old, good old Prospero. Not doing hot. Didn't do anything wrong.

Just did things out of sheer ignorance. Yep. And, you know, you could argue the emperor. It was a big fault of that. Yep, yep. It's the emperor's fault. Very clearly. Magnus did nothing. Very clearly. Very clearly. Indisputable. So, with the Battle of Prospero dumb, I'm not quite sure if this was like while the next thing, the drop site massacre, or also known as the Isvon 5 system, was going on at the same time, around the same time or something. but this is arguably, with the exception of the final battle,

is the major turning point in the heresy. This is the big one. The big one. Because at the time, Horace, now that they've been warned, because good old Nathaniel Garrow, our king, warned them of Horace's treachery. So now you had the horse, you have the death guard, the emperor's children, and the world eaters, right?

But unbeknownst to everyone else, the Alpha Legion, Iron Warrior, night lords and the oh, and the word bears, which they actually didn't know the word bears turned traitor, technically. How could they not know

at this point that the word? I don't know, dude. After what they did to the word bears, like, yeah, I'm sure they'll come help us out. I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure Lorgar's forgotten all about that, you know, that burning down his,

public spanking. Yeah, yeah, kneeling in the ashes of everything that he loved and held the, I'm sure he forgot that. Yeah, it's fine. The four of them, are sanctioned on Isvon 5, the fifth world of the Isfond system or whatever. And so Big E and all the boys are like, go get them.

Fuck them up. Get them. So that's what they do. So a bunch of loyalist factions make their way down there. Three, in fact, the Iron Hands, led by Primark Ferris Manus. The Iron Hands are like a Mechanicus Space Marine Faction. They believe that flesh is weak. They have lots of tech and vehicles and servo arms and lots of bionic upgrades.

They take a lot of metal and they put them on there, hence the name Iron Hands. Is that like an ad mech like sub faction? Although this is a space. It's a space marine legion. Right, but they sound very ad mech. Well, I say that they're like ad mech just because they probably, I think they work closely with admec and they have a lot of admec upgrades. But no, they just happen.

to be one of the Space Marine legions. Okay. They're not like a spin-off splinter faction of whatever. No, no. I mean, everything and every one that's fighting right now is a Space Marine Legion in its own right. Because there's like 18 of them. They just sounded so admec. It's very

admec. It's the Space Marines version of Admec. Yeah. Then you had the Raven Guard. These are jokingly known as your edgy boys with Primark Corvus Korax. They have lots of like black and white armor with ravens and Big birds.

I meant they're the Raven Guard. What do you expect? Of course they're edgy. They're meant to be like stealth specialists and they're also like they're big into like jump packs. You know like jet packs. Oh, okay. The winged idea and they have like claws of lightning and all that's kind of crap.

And then the salamanders, which are my personal favorites. Oh yes. Shai just posted a picture of one of their Ravenguard models. I believe that is a cray van Shrike. He's actually a really cool model but his hairdo is something else. He's got the emo swoosh I know he does The armor is badass

And the jet pack is super dope But that swoosh Come on man He's got the over one eye swoosh I know How does he fly like that With his depth perception It's all off

And then the last but not least He had the salamanders My personal favorite space marine faction The salamanders Are one of the first founded With Primark Vulcan The salamanders are all black But like not like modern day black

Where you know like you can say like people who are black nowadays It's more like a dark brown color Like they have like pitch black Like ash colored skin Oh Like it is very dark And they have blazing red eyes Because their planet was a horribly volcanic planet

It was nocturn Ooh Yeah I just posted a picture of them in Yeah Vulcan God, I mean Lots of dragon heraldry as well. Lots of dragon heraldry. I was going to say they would look so fierce,

but the contrast between the ash skin and like the red eyes with like this bright green armor just looks so fucking goofy. I'm not a big fan of the green armor. I can't take that guy serious. I'm not a big fan of the green armor. I agree. The glowing red eyes does make them a little goofy, I will admit. Yeah, it looks a little strange. It should be like, I don't know.

black with like red tinted medals or something. I don't know. Ironically, they're actually what is known as the nicest space marine Legion. They're the only group. They're the only group to allow their Marines to still visit their families. And they constantly put civilian life over their own lives, which space marines do not do. And they're even like master crafters. They forge their own weapons. They maintain them themselves. They're like blacksmiths. They're actually super.

Cool but ironically they're also the biggest space marines like their gene seed like Vulcan is the biggest prime mark he's huge But I so funny enough to like don't worry my friends I am here to save you and your children and you have this like nine foot tall Blazing red-eyed dude. It's like do not worry young child. I will save you When you said they were the nicest I was like excuse They look horrible. They look like the kind of people that would like absolutely murdered just because it was fun and they liked the sound of squishing flesh. Well, ironically, Vulcan did set an Eldar child on fire because he was angry once. But we'll talk about that later.

I love that story. It makes me laugh in like a morbid way. Don't worry about it. Okay. All right. Getting off track here. Getting off track here. Moving right along.

They're loyal, all right? They're loyalists. So, so. Basically, the iron hands, actually, iron hands in their Primark Ferris, he's probably the duchiest one. Them, Corbus Korax of the Raven Guard and Vulcan of the Salamanders, they all dropped to deal with Horace, the Death Guard, you know, Empress Children and the world leaders. And this is when you got into like a full on one v. one war. I'm not sure exactly how many they dropped down into this area, but not only were the Space Marine chapters themselves fighting on this planet after all of them. their like thunder hawks and drop pods dropped them in.

But also it was the other space marines and their primarks. So Vulcan with this big hammer was bonking on people. Corvus was flying around his giant jetpack with his double claws of lightning and his emo haircut just like slicing down traitors. Ferris Manx, the iron hands was cutting down different guys, having his servo arms behind him like a little doc-Ock firing weapons and grabbing fleeing enemies and bringing them back to him. It was, it was crazy. Angron was like dual-wielding chainsaws and just screeching his head off.

Mortarian had his big scythe and he was just cleaving people. Fulgrim being as beautiful as he was, was like a dance, just sliding between enemies and slitting their throats as the emperor's children. It was a, it was a total, it's super badass. If we had the money, this would be a damn good movie. Sounds like endgame. It kind of is. It pretty much is the endgame fight. As close as you're going to get to it.

So as this is going on, Horace is chilling in his big old castle on the way back. You know, just kind of overseeing everything because that's, you know, he's the war master. You don't want to, he doesn't want to take a bolter out of the head. Combined that with the fact that also a large contingent of the admec have actually joined Horace because Horace promised them the spoils of war of like the STC constructs and all of the

the major technology that he gets. Oh. Which so now he's got access to tons of like knights and like Titan legions and and they're called a dark mechanicus. They are mechanicum. They're there. Dude, if you can imagine them, imagine the things that Admec get up to. But then backed by chaos.

Chaos. I didn't know that there was a dark mechanicus. They are hugely important. We'll have a whole episode on them, but they are so important, and it sucks that they're not represented on the tabletop because they are super fucking important. I was going to say when looking for like minis

and just like scanning around every now and then, I was like, I don't recall there being a section for dark mechanicus, and they sound real cool, because I already loved the action. And if you're telling me, you can have some wonky-ass chaos shit with the ad mech, that'd be sick as fuck. Yep, it is absolutely possible. I hope they eventually make minis.

But like, most of, most of Mars basically turned, like, turned traitor. Like a large amount of Mars did. Oh, actually, it may have been the whole thing. I think there were definitely like insurgents that were still in there, you know, fighting, fighting the good fight, quote unquote. But, like, they had a constantly whole thing. back Mars because come on man the ad mech they're they're horrifying um but as the as the fight raged right as things kept on going basically what occurred was the was that after all of the loyalist legions ferris manis uh south the south of all those kinds of group as they kept on making

ground they were starting to really starting to push the traders back um until the traders started pushing back and they kind of had a tug of war. But then, luckily for all of the loyalist factions, for the Salamanders and such, as they were getting pushed back and they were getting kind of pushed back and back, they weren't too worried because they had reinforcements inbound,

thank God, from the Alpha Legion, the Iron Warriors, the night lords, and the word bears. Uh-oh. And right at that moment, as the loyalists were backing up to reinforce, force and recuperate a million drop pods with quote unquote, uh, loyal factions that were unaware that they had turned traitor landed behind them and then a just pincer move and a hail

of bombs and gunfire landed into the, the backing up loyalists. That's, ooh. Yeah, he's like, I sure do love being a loyalist. I sure do love being a loyalist. Oh, look, the Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, Nightloors, and Warbirds are here to reinforce our position. And then they just start opening fire on them. Oh, boy. Well, that sucks.

It was very bad. They lost, like, pretty much all of them. Yeah, I was going to say, how does anybody really survive that? I mean, you're getting pincered by... It was really bad. I think pretty much their entire Legion was decimated. Like, they will no longer play a factor into the Horace heresy. The Iron Hands, the Salamanders, and the Raven Guard were almost entirely annihilated.

In fact, so badly so that, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think Vulcan was like hit with like a nuclear weapon or something? Oh. Okay, so Volcan, okay, so Volcan, this is essentially. that I kind of don't like. He's something called a perpetual, which means that Vulcan can never truly die. He will be reduced to atoms, but then the atoms will like reform himself and then he'll come back alive again. I don't like this bit of writing. It makes him immortal and I think it's a little dumb. But he is that. And so Vulcan, after his entire legion got fucked, was then captured by night lord primark

Conrad Kerr's also known as the most terroristy man of all time and was subsequently tortured like mad with Conrad Kerr's being like why won't you fucking die and he just kept on going

and he like if Vulcan was anyone else he would have been would have been dem if he was anyone else he would have been Dem Conrad Kerrs not Conrad Curras Corvus, wrong guy of the Ravenguard fought with good old, I believe it was Angron, and they were trading blows like mad,

but Angron got the upper hand and was about to kill Korax. When at the last second, he just blew himself up into the air using his jetpack. So he was able to escape barely, like surviving, gravely wounded in some transports thanks to his jetpack. However, the main battle there was between Ferris Manus, Primark of the Iron Hands, and Folgram. and the two of them were one v-one each other like hard hardcore. And before anything, like before Ferris could get the upper hand and Folgram being the swift, beautiful man that he was, was able to, I think he dislocated his arm, it popped it like out.

And then he like, I think he like stabbed his tendons. It's a very big major fight of what was going on at the time. Full Grim, however, did indeed get the upper hand. And after a little bit of hesitation to doing what he did to his brother, decapitated Ferris Manus. And then and there, the primark of the iron hand ceased to be. Oof, I guess he got a little ahead of himself.

Yep, that was one of the major. I mean, he wanted to hesitate, but I believe it was like the dark gods pushing on his arm kind of thing. Yeah. They were like, you got to do it. So that was the death of Ferris Manus is actually, I think, the first major primark death. I think it's the first primark death. I can't think of another one at the current moment.

Besides, I guess, the other two that were expunged from history. Yeah. But that's the drop site massacre. That's why it's called that because, oh man. It was an absolute bloodbath. I mean, I'm surprised they only called it a massacre. I mean I think in total

I think like 5 to 600,000 space marines died on the on the loyalist side and only about 22,000 lived Jesus like it is an absolute massacre. The Ravenguard, the

salamanders, the iron hands, they ceased to be a factor and that was kind of the whole point of Horace's you know like his battles is that he can't just 1 v1 big E Of course not. He needs to do like strikes and he needs to do insurrections and trickery

and that was the big one. Like with his power, he was eight guys strong. Sons of Horace, Deathguard, Emperor's Children, World Leaders, Alpha Legion, Iron War. Five actually. Wait, no, one, two, three, four. No, four.

Four strong. Sorry. Four strong. And then not only that, sorry, four plus four means eight. Four strong in the beginning. Four stronger. the Alpha Legion when they all came to betray.

So it started with four, now eight, soon to be nine, because now the thousand sons are going to pledge themselves to Horace and his cause. Oh, right, right, right. That, yeah. Because Magnus is upsetting, spaghetti. Well, he can't be anything but upset he's spaghetti. I mean, there's no other option. It really is, though.

Magnus had a bad time. There's nothing else for him to do. Can't go back to the emperor. you know, oh sure, might as well turn traitor. What else did that? What else I got to do? Finally, last but not least, we have the siege of Terra. Now, I'm skipping a lot in this in between. There's, like, Malcador the Sigelite tried to assassinate Horace multiple times,

and there's all this kind of stuff. But basically, I'm skipping over that because, oh, my God. There's a lot. There's a lot. The siege of Terra is exactly what it sounds like. It is the siege of Terra and the Imperial Palace. Now, understanding what was going on at this point, there were really not many options left for the loyalists. In fact, in reality, there were basically only two Space Marine legions that took part in the siege to help the imperial fists with Primark Rogel dorm and the white scars of Jagatai Khan, which were the Mongolian ones, if you forget.

Yeah. They're pretty cool. All about the fur. Are they the ones that ride the bikes? Yeah, they're speed voice. Oh, they're cool. They're really cool. But Horace being the insanely intelligent man that he was, he sent out the word bearers to attempt to stop the Ultramarines.

Now, that was kind of a doomed plan because the Ultramarines Legion is gigantic. It is like 400,000 where an average Legion is like 150 to 200,000. But basically, he knew he could not want. 1 v. 1 Gilliman. Like, it was not going to work. So he had to send over quite a bit, Lorgar and his boys to stop them. And it actually kind of worked.

It worked. They held them at bay for a while. But it wasn't just that that he did. It was, that was called the Battle of Calth or Keith. Kind of a weird one. But basically, he needed to take as many of the remaining loyalist legions as he could.

And he needed to, like, you know, divide and conquer. You know, you need to segment them Because if you don't, he's not going to be able to fight a one-on-one war He just doesn't have the power. Yeah. So he keeps the ultramarines held at bay with the with Lorgar And then I believe it was the the

I think it was the word bearers And the word, no, not the word bears That was Lorgar, the world eaters, my bad. I believe the world eaters, they also assisted in the I think it was the sea, it was either siege of terror or they also helped with the battle of Cath. I'm actually slipping on this one. This is really difficult for me to remember this kind of stuff.

I know that the space wolves, the dark angels, and the ultramarines were all kept aside. All of them were kept aside. Ultramarines with the word bearers. I know that the night lords kept one of them at bay. I think it was the space wolves they kept at bay. So the night lords were sent over there as well And then another one I don't quite remember

Stopped the Dark Angels There's there's it's a lot It was a it was quite a bit But also thanks to Lorgar's crazy shenanigans He was able to create like these big old warp storms To cut off the ultramarines from arriving Because there were just so many of them right Boy I bet EMS is regretting what he did to Lorgar right about now

He's not feeling good about it no sir Maybe I shouldn't have burnt everything he loved and cherished to the ground. Oh, well. Oh, darn. Damn it. But regardless of which got sent where, the long and the short of it is that the three major legions, the dark angels, the space wolves,

and the ultramarines were all being forced back. And they were all basically having like distraction fights to keep them from being at terror. The white scars actually could have helped the space wolves. but I think Rogel dorm was like hey man we need you back here like you gotta go

so they dim and then Horace descended upon the Imperial Palace and Terra in its own right and it's called the Siege of Terra because not only do you have to deal with the Imperial Fists

which are really freaking good at defending stuff like they are so good at fortifying things but you also had to deal with the white scars rolling around at Mach 5. And most importantly, you had to deal with the custodians. Oh, yeah.

Because this is the palace itself. This is the 10,000 heroes of the custodians. And they do not go down, easy. Oh, I totally forgot about the blood angels. I feel like an asshole. The blood angels were also part of it as well. Sanguineous, primark of the blood angels, and Horace's closest friend.

we're also a big part of that I recall I don't mean to bring back the YouTube comments everyone was like oh yeah Sanguinius was actually like the best prime mark and I know very little about Blood Angels and Sanguinius other than vampires and they look edgy and cool

they do look edgy and cool and beautiful I mean he looks like Alicard for God's sake but Sanguinius is he is the primark of the Blood Angels and he and Horace were like they're like best friends they were literally best friends they had a huge brother

bond. So it's kind of going back to like a, you know, brother against brother kind of deal. Gotcha. And of course, then you also had two million guardsmen, but ah, who cares about the-ah, two million guardsmen, no, me. Who cares? Lots of guardsmen, obviously, because the Imperial Guard was a big part of it, but yeah. In this case, it was the siege of terror, because they couldn't just like burn their way in. It was, it was a siege. They had to keep on bombarding, or they had to keep on pushing it. This went on for a while. sanguine as a while In Warhammer time

I have no idea Not super long Because like a few days or days I think I don't entirely know the problem The problem is that you also had the other battles Between the Space Wolves and the Ultramarines and Dark Angels I don't know if it was days months, years

I truly don't know Good old Games workshop does not have a sense of time At all I was gonna say in Warhammer It's like, oh, yeah, it lasted a while. Well, how long is that? 60,000 years. What?

Yeah, I... Yeah, it's like, oh, okay? I truly don't know, but it was a long time. Yeah, Shai says the entirety of the horacee is like five years, but that's like the entirety of the heresy. The siege of terror in its own right, I'm not quite sure. But regardless, they were on a ticking clock because, you know, Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Space Wolf.

Sure, sure. So as... You're going to hold in the back for so long. Yes. So as the, oh, and apparently Shai says five trillion dead. That's a lot. That's a fuck ton of people. Jesus Christ. Yeah, good old five, just casually five trillion. God damn. Like I said, no sense of numbers. The fact that there were even five trillion people to kill is pretty impressive.

But the fact that five trillion wasn't just all of them. I know. It's so dumb. So during this period of time with the siege of terror, of course, I'm skimping over many details, but they're fighting really hard. The white scars are doing their fighting. Jagatai Khan is fighting. Rogel Dorn is fighting. Everyone's fighting.

I think Rogel Dorn and Angron have like a fight together. It's pretty hardcore. But after all this murder and all this bloodshed, this insane sieging, sanguineus also fought like a great. Raider demon, if I'm not mistaken. Whoa. Which is kind of nutty. He has like big ass angel wings and shit, but I don't know, I know you play a thousand sons or

you collect them. You know like the Lord of Change, that giant bird thing? Yeah. He basically fought a corn version of that called a bloodthirster. Oh. He basically won a V-1 did and beat it, which is nuts. Okay, cool. Absolutely nuts.

What a bro. He's pretty cool. Now, he was fucking wounded as hell, but it hurt badly, but he did it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty goddamn nutty. So with that, after enough time, after the siege was going on, Horace was like, it's taking too long, it's taking too long, it's taking too long, I don't like this at all.

And then eventually, after enough, enough time, your boy, your boy, I think it was, Maybe it was either Arabis. I forget exactly who told him. But people were like, hey, hey, dude, we got word from our super secret dark spies and horrible people. The dark angels, the space wolves, and the ultramarines are on their way back. Uh-oh. They're coming. They'll be here in about three hours.

Uh-oh. Like, uh-oh. Uh-oh. And this came to what might have been the number one greatest gamble. and choice that horse chose because he's like, God damn it! I don't have time.

I don't have the resources. I can't finish this. I am going to fail. And trying to leave and recuperate his losses means that so will the Imperium. Oh, yeah. So he took a big, big freaking gamble.

He was on his major flagship called the vengeful spirit, which is still around today, by the way. It's being used still. I know, right? What a goddamn ship. Especially for Horace. What a name for the ship. The vengeful spirit. Yeah, I know. It's super cool. Very on the nose, but yeah. Well, most of Warhammer is.

True, true, true. So he decided to lower the void shields on his ship, which basically meant that he and people and everyone else could teleport in and out of the ship. And so he lowered it as almost a challenge. to Big E. So Big E, currently sitting on the golden throne this whole time, keeping the demons out, saw this. And he basically took the bait.

He was like, I can teleport myself right into Horace's flagship and end this here. And so what he did, though, but before this is he went to his best friend, his closest advisor, his buddy, Malcador the Sigelite. one of the most the second most powerful psycher in the galaxy but still a normal human and he said and he asked him the last favor to take his spot on the golden throne

and hold the demons out while he does his you know he does his business yeah and as he did that he entombed himself into the golden throne and he did it he pushed the demons away but man was it a lot for him it was very a difficult challenge And right before Ems left, he made a declaration,

said that Malcador the Sidgolite will no longer be known as Malcador the Sidgolite, but rather known as Malcador the hero. And I know, right? It's quite sweet. And so placing him on the golden throne, the emperor teleported himself, as well as, if I'm not mistaken, sanguineas, a bunch of custodians and various other, like, forces, and like his own personal contingent of custodian bodyguards

and also I think maybe Rogeldoorn and Jagatai Khan maybe it's just Rogel Doorn I don't know if Khan was in it or not I think he might have been but definitely Rogel Doorm into the into the ship

and they then being horse being the conniving smart man as he was he closed off certain segments of the ship he routed them you know he was leading them like rats in a maze yeah

to kind of fuck around and get them all lost on his gigantic flagship. Finally, the first person to make it to the bridge to meet Horace alone was good old sanguine. And sanguinius, right before he got to Horace, Horace went to his closest friend, his big bro, his bro-tier friend. And he pleaded with him. Like, don't fight now. join me join like don't you see the emperor's

folly don't you see he's terrible don't you see yada yada yada obviously sanguinius doesn't want to hear none of this yeah and so then they had their big fight but calling it a big fight is a little bit of a overstatement being after 1V1ing and putting down a greater

demon of corn sanguinius was quite quite wounded and now it said that he struck a pretty good blow on Horace's chestplate. I'll talk about that later. That's one of those unreliable narrator things where like some people say he did.

Some people say he did it. I'm going to say he did because it sounds cool. And because we all like sanguinean. We all like sanguineous. Sanguineous. Sanguineous. Got. Sanguineous.

But after blows were exchanged, Horace proved like absolutely no match. Or other way around, sorry. He was too much of a match for sanguinius. And with his giant like horrifying power claw strangled sanguinius to death and

dropped his body right on the floor in front of him and that's almost exactly the moment when Big E arrived to see what the hell it happened which is why in that really famous image that sanguineas on the ground

dead and that's actually a pretty it's a pretty fucking sad moment I don't do it justice because I'm trying to shorten it all but closest friends, closest brothers, Emperor's favorite son, Emperor comes in seeing his favorite son who just strangled the life

out of the primark of the blood angels, his best buddy. Like it's pretty rough. You know, this is where men cried. If Sanguinius hadn't fought that greater demon and he was like full strength, would he have even been a match for Horace at that point or would it have been closer?

It would have been closer, absolutely. but Horace had the dark gods backing him up. I'm not quite sure. Okay. So San Guineas still had no chance at really beating him. Oh, I wouldn't say no chance, but I'd argue that Horace was probably more powerful. It's a little difficult to really determine because it's different. Like a greater demon is just a big-ass demon, right?

Sure. It's not like a tactician like Horace is. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not quite sure. We're going into what-ifs at that point, but. Really, regardless, Horace was pretty nutty, so it's unsurprising. But then Big E came there, you know? And Big E was like, Horace, you ignorant slut.

Look what you've done. Word for word. Verbatim, that's what he said. Verbatim. He's just like, Dwight, you ignorant slut. Now, naturally Horace was like, come on, dad, don't you see your folly bow beneath me? and be part of my cause and I'll spare you your life. You know, the Imperium was founded upon lies,

and, you know, I know what you did to the Thunder Warriors and all this kind of thing. And Biggie has heard this song and dance before. And he's like, yeah, fuck that. I ain't vowing. Think of an idiot? I wasn't born yesterday. I don't even know if I was born.

Yeah. So, naturally they came into their big 1V1, the Horace versus the Yen. Emperor 1v1. And it is catastrophic. The fact they're fighting each other like the way they are with glancing blows of each other is insane. Now granted, Horace proved no match.

Horace would not at all deal with the M's. But you know that one thing that the emperor kept aside? In fact, he had a little bit of it. A little bit of thing called compassion. And he just couldn't bring him. himself to landing the final blow on his favorite son. His son, yeah. He just couldn't do it.

And with that time, that proved to be a bit of his undoing. The Horace disarmed the emperor by slicing the tendon in his wrist. He broke his arm backwards, and he slit the emperor's jugular. Oh, Jesus. And then he battered his armor to, like, he, emperor got bodied. And he even, you know what he did to seal the deal? Can you guess? To seal the deal?

You know, when I think Warhammer's sealing the deal immediately, I'm thinking poison and nukes, but I don't think that's going to play a part. No, sir, he did the backbreaker. Oh, did he really? He actually actually did. Well, I don't think we're at that part in the Cichita books yet, but I'm reading the wiki right now and they said backbreaker. So, God damn it, I'm gone with Backbreaker.

Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Oh, God, damn it. Oh, man, the Iron Sheek would be thrilled with the way Warhammer. It's, uh, right here on the wiki verbatim, Horace raised his father high over his head and broke his back over his knee. Oh, yeah, what else we got here? A psychic blast seared the flesh from the emperor's face, destroying one of his eyes,

uh, ripped his right, arm from his socket. Jesus. Yeah, like, Jesus Christ, Horace went to town. Now, this next part is a part that is known as myth and legend and might not have actually happened, but I want to talk about it because it's kind of cool. Basically, there's a story of a singular person who saw this happening. And right before the emperor was, you know, to be killed because he was kind of holding

Biggie's, like, body in the air, like, I've won, I've won, all this kind of stuff. After throwing his body to the ground, there was the statement that one lone individual stood in the way between the battered emperor and Horace. Now, what this individual was is dependent on who you ask. Or it could just be a story for, you know, a little bit of morale boosting. But one of the stories that me as an imperial guard player truly likes was that it was a man known as Olonius Pius,

a singular guardsman. One guardsman stood in the way of Horace and the emperor and said no. Now if you ask the blood angels with the death of their prime mark, they said it was a blood angels

terminator. If you ask the custodians, they'd say it was a custodian who was there. It's one of those like the person changes depending on who you ask. Because it's more of a sense of heroism.

You know, one who has nothing in the face of unstoppable odds still put himself in the way of the emperor to protect him which is why I like the guardsman one because it's like a normal fucking dude with a fucking Lasgum

stood in between Horace and the dying emperor and was like I will not let you kill the emperor which it's pretty manly it's pretty palsy you know it's pretty cool and so it's a very good like rousing tale right now do you know what happened to this individual I'm assuming he gets crushed like a

little bitty baby bug. He is flayed alive by a glancing psychic blast or Horace in like a maniacal laugh. Jesus. And that right, which is why I kind of believe it's a guardsman more because if it was like a custodian, like, like Horace is powerful, but custodians are really tough. And, you know, I don't know.

But with seeing that happen, seeing this, this lone soul just get like fucking annihilated through like the sheer jubes. joy of Horace doing so. That's when the emperor was like, this is no longer my son. This truly is a chaos monstrosity. This is no longer my son.

So he loses the compassion and he. And with a full, just like he fucking spirit bombed him. With his full on psychic power, all of his pure psychic energy, he fired a lance. So strong and it pierced through the little chest plate that sanguineus cut

and at that point in time the demonic gods kind of like let go of their grip on Horace Oh those fuckers And so the last moment before Horace's death was that of like regret and sorrow

and like oh my God what have I done and as that happened Horace was just like I cannot understate how dead he is okay I cannot understand state this.

All right. Like he, okay, so whenever you're killed as a chaos being, you go into the warp, right, your soul goes to the warp.

And you can be revived. If you kill a greater demon, depending on how hard you kill the son of a bitch, he'll come back like 500 years later. Because, because that's just how demons and souls in the warp work.

You know, you're functionally immortal. You're like, you're a servant of the dark gods. You die, you go back to the warp, and then you can come back later. Horace was all F-4 from existence.

His soul, his pure soul and his, is all memory of him was purged from like the plane of existence. Horace will never come back. Horace will never, ever come back. He was completely deleted from the timeline. I cannot underestimate how dead this son of a bitch is. He is so fucking dead. He is as dead as you could possibly be. I have never seen a man being all F4 from existence this hard.

Jesus. Now, holy shit. So as this occurred, very shortly after Rogel Dorn comes and sees his body, his father's bloodied, dead body or dying body, you know, very much dying body on the ground. And he's like, oh, no, my dad. And so he ran up to Big E, grabbed him, of course, and then teleported back to the Golden Throne. And him and Jagatai Khan, Primark of the White Scars, started moving him back to the throne

where Malcador was like really struggling, really struggling to hold on. But right at the last second, as the emperor was dying, Malcador released his grip on the golden throne and transferred his teeny, and I mean tiny bit of life essence, which psychers can do.

They can give you their life essence. into the emperor to keep him alive for a few minutes more. And right as that happened, the emperor's last thing he saw, the last thing that he was able to see before he was entombed on the golden throne for the rest of eternity was his best friend being turned into ash. Malkador just crumbled. His entire body crumbled into an ashy dust at his like feet. Oh, boy, that's brutal.

That's rough. So, Big Ye is then placed on the golden throne. He gives a couple more words to Rogel Dorn and Jagatai Khan. And now he's been there since. The golden throne of terror houses the emperor's dying, rotting corpse as he has to perpetually for eternity hold back the demons. coming in from Magnus's little charade and do his best to keep the entire Imperium from dying.

And that is why Macuador's final gift to the emperor is why they have to sacrifice a thousand psychers to the emperor every single day to give them his life essence so that he can keep living. Jesus. You know about the thousand psychers a day thing, right? I did. I was about to ask you about that before you brought up. I was like, is it true that they need to like sacrifice thousands of psychers a day just to keep big emps alive?

Yep, because that's how they learned with Malkador's actions that you can actually transfer like the soul of somebody to to a person. So that's why now in order to keep him alive on that golden throne, they need those cykers. So is when when he's on this golden throne and he's getting this psychrant, is he aware or is he like in like a catatonic state and he's just a barrier? It's unsure. He's definitely not as doing as how as he used to. We'll say that. No kidding. But I believe that he is to a point somewhat aware,

but I don't know to like the extent. It's difficult to truly determine. However, he definitely does have a presence in the warp. That's for certain. Okay. Gotcha. With that, though, that really is at the end of where the emperor lies as he's been there to

this day in the current time of 40K he's still there he looks like a corpse there's the famous picture of the corpse emperor where he's like a big skeleton. Yep yeah I've seen that one. Yep that's a pretty common one as for what happened with the rest of everything the death

of sanguineus sent out with sanguineas being a really powerful cyker if I'm not mistaken sent out a catastrophic mental wave to the rest of the blood angels Like the rest of the blood angels felt that death like super harm

And then that is I'm not sure if this is where it first developed Or if maybe this is where it kicked it into high gear It's something called the Black Rage Which is the genetic fault of the Of the blood angels where The longer they serve as blood angels They have an unquenchable taste

For human blood And they become just maniacal killing machines Oh that's how they become vampires Yeah And there's also units called like death company and those are people who try to go into battle with reckless abandon hoping to die because if they live they're going to be executed anyway because they become they become dangerous.

Okay. But then like the battle outside of Terra, all the blood angels basically instantly got turned into this black rage horrifying monstrosities and they went to town. Fucking all of the Horace's dudes felt his primar, the Primark die. They started. like the space marines started fleeing and

started retreating and then started running like like bloody you know that fucking image of goddam that meme of Spider-Man where he's like overacting he's like shocker get get back here I'll chase you to the ends of the earth

it was it was basically that they just they were going so mad with with power and with like blood lust, the Black Legion of Sons of Horace, all the traitors just started like running. I mean, that's, that's, I mean, the blood angels were already really, really strong. And then you send them into a bloodthirsty rampage.

I, I, I, I can see why, why you might be a little scared and you might won't run. You want to get the fuck out of there? It wouldn't hurt, not at all. That's exactly the point. It wouldn't hurt to just get the fuck out of there. You stay and it might hurt real bad. Oh, yeah, and it did. And that really at that point is where the Horace heresy mostly ended.

I mean, the rest of the guys came, the ultramarines, the dark angels, etc. They finally arrived. They cleaned up any remaining mess that were around there. Obviously, many people didn't leave, like the death guard escaped and lived, Folgram of the Empress children escaped and lived. Most traitor primarks are still alive, actually. Oh. Most of them still are alive.

If I'm not mistaken, Magnus is alive. Horace is very dead. Angron, Mortarian, Fulgrim, Lorgar, Perchirabobo, Alfarious Omagon, which is actually an interesting one. They're like a twin primark. We'll talk about the Alpha Legion one day. They're pretty cool. But the only ones that I think were actually killed on the heresy side was Horacee. good old Conrad Curz

Um Conrad Curz died later by an assassination But that's like a neither here nor there I think that's really it Yeah So what are they all doing now? Like it was Horace the only thing That was like uniting them

Or are they still considered like allies? Are they ever going to like try and Storm Terra again or like what's the what's their goal now? Well that that would be for a different episode we're already pretty damn into this one. That being said, that being said,

I think we have to talk more about that on like the Black Crusades and more about the Black Legion. Long story short, there's this dude named Avedon. He's taken over Horace's place. But that's a whole different thing. And that's, we'll talk about that another day. If I'm not mistaken, at the current moments,

like, lots of the Primarchs aren't like around anymore. Like, like, Senguinius obviously dead. so it's Ferris Manx, but like, we don't know where Lehman Russ is, we don't know where Rogel Dorn is, we don't know where Jagatikon is, we don't know where Vulcan is, they're all like gone. But in the current timeline, they've all kind of gone missing, but that

is probably for their respective legions, we'll talk about that. Okay, cool, cool. But that being said, I think that's really the Horacee. I think next episode we're going to be talking about the age of apostasy, I hope, because I'm so fucking

hype for that. I am so high It's my girls It's your girls We get to talk about the sisters of battle We get to talk about Ghosh Van Dyer Also known as the evilest name of all time

I was gonna say Warhammer has some Hell of evil names Warhammer's great at naming stuff See shy Shai wants orcs after apostasy And I'm okay with that I think orcs gonna be a fun episode

Like I've heard little bits and pieces about orcs and how wonky they are, they're real fun guys. But I'm down for an orc episode for sure. Oh, hell yeah. I want to do apostasy because it kind of ties into why the Imperium is a bunch of religious fanatics. Because ironically, the Imperium right now is basically what Lorgar always wanted. Like they worship the emperor as a god.

They have churches built to them. If you don't worship him, you're a heretic and you die. It's literally what Lorgar wanted. Lorgar had the last laugh If only Lorgar was born a little later He's still alive Worshiped Oh that's true

He is still alive isn't he That's true Yeah he didn't I guess he wouldn't He obviously wouldn't come back for that Because he's like well yeah I did want that But fuck the emperor Well and they also hate his guts

And they'll kill him at first sight Yeah there's that too I suppose Yeah fair enough But that is the Horace This is our longest episode I'm sorry it was so long as long and I oh my god did I cut I there was so much shit that I cut out

this one oh my goodness we made it though we made it we did we did the horror's heresy we got it all and it only took three episodes you know that's that's good shit instead of what was it 11 books we did it in three episodes

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