Adeptus Ridiculous - IMPERIAL FISTS: NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:10 Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky. He's going to be teaching us all about the most wacky, crazy, ridiculous shit in Warhammer 40K. But before he does, if you enjoy today's episode, head him over to patreon.com slash adeptis ridiculous, where you can support us, get access to the Discord, and a lot of other fun stuff. You can get an HD poster, which, look, Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:00:42 What? What is your problem? I'm just telling the people about the poster. I did not have a single say in this, not an ounce of say, a speck, a smekle of say in this. Shy showed me the sketch, the work in progress. And she was like, what else could we add to this? How could we make this more? How could we really celebrate all of the things that Bricketts?
Starting point is 00:01:10 He loves so much about these posters. And so we have a wonderful Cadian cat boy. It's beautiful. It's on the screen right now, I bet. Patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Let's go. Tell them about that other stuff, Bricky. Oh, my good God.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Orchidate.com is where you can get some merch and dice. We're talking, actually, we're out of dice right now, but hopefully that'll be done soon. We got hoodies and shirts as well as stickers and the like. go check that out. Orkidate.com. We're finishing up Krieg. It's taking longer than we like. Sorry, I'm flying out to Boston this week for Pax East. If you're in Pax East, say hello.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But yeah, it's taking a while. So it'll come out a little bit later than normal. Apologies, but, you know, we're busy and stuff. It's also a very good book, so. It's fine. I think it's just because I know what happens on Krieg. So it's like, there's no surprise, right? We did the episode on the Death Corps of Cree.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We know what happens. I know what happens. And maybe I'm just not as into it because I'm just like, oh, yeah, I know what happens. And it's just a very sort of like historically accurate book. I will admit all these things involving the actual Krieg stuff and the planet are much more interesting than the Octarius War stuff going on. But I would not call it bad at all. I would call it It could certainly maybe not be as
Starting point is 00:02:40 as exciting comparatively Especially considering that we just finished Like a bunch of Necron books And a whole bunch of night lord shit And whatever Don't be mean DK You made a cat boy co-poster I don't want to hear Jackall from you
Starting point is 00:02:54 About taste and decency Ah excuse me That is a work of art And you You should be thanking us For making something so pinpoint accurate to things that you really like. Like how there's a fucking like
Starting point is 00:03:13 Sally Neander's Marine in the background too. That's kind of funny. Yep, yep. Got the ears. Oh my God. What's the last thing I was going to say? Oh, do we make our announcement on our true crime thing? Oh, yeah. I guess we should because it was announced on our Twitter. And like community posts, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:36 So, after some deliberation and curiosity and a shockingly high amount of people interested in it, we have decided to make Detective Ridiculous a thing. DK's incredibly good episode, combined with my painful imposter syndrome, is all increasing. And we have decided to make true crime, Detective Ridiculous a thing. We will be doing it once a month to start with, and we will not be replacing any episodes. Do not worry. It'll come out on the weekends instead.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And do not worry about time frame because D.K. is the one who does the research, and I don't have to do anything. So we're swapping roles pretty easily. Yeah. And we're going to do it once a month and see how it goes. Yeah, once a month. It won't get in the way of anything else with being once a month. it'll be fairly easy to look up stuff for it because it's only going to happen once a month
Starting point is 00:04:38 so yeah it should be business as usual but with you know a little true crime yeah yeah the outpouring of people wanting more of that was insane I genuinely think that was one of our favorite episodes we've done in like the last six months
Starting point is 00:04:54 so I yeah I had a really good time with that in my head I was like oh Briggis just being nice about the whole like oh it's a great episode great storytelling And then like all the comments came and I was like wait Maybe you have a knack for this buddy I was like wait he was he was he was he was That wasn't a joke that was like a I can be nice
Starting point is 00:05:12 I was like that wasn't just a make co-host feel better moment I can be nice when I have to but I'm forced to now shy Uh oh now luckily she's not here right now because she's she's busy but in the post edits I'm sure I'll hear plenty about it I don't have a gun in my head That's how she's how she's not shy edit's work, man. You know, you got, like, you have a regular background image right now, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:38 our classic background image. And instead, she's just going to edit in like a PNG of a Glock and her cherub hands pointing at my head. Yep, she sure is. Hippity, hoppity, you're now my property. Mm. Hey, 40K, that's how it be. Anyway, uh, that's a long-ass intro.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Sorry, um, we're talking about the fists again today. You know this. We know this. That's what we do. Yep. It's a combination of other things that Rogel Doran did that was cool, things that Bricky got wrong that I can correct, and the Fists themselves as a chapter, what they're like, what they do,
Starting point is 00:06:14 and a couple notable names. And we'll start off with things Bricky messed up with. You know, you messed up stuff? No way. I know. Why is it crazy? You are always hyper-accurate. I never make mistakes.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Accuracy over entertainment. Isn't that our slogan? That's totally our slogan. Yes, people know us for our 100% accuracy on all things. There's always a little bit of iffiness with Warhammer lore and like what is canon stuff. But one thing I absolutely 100% screwed up on is I was wrong. Rogel Dorn was not given the phalanx by Biggie. He had it.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Oh, so he found it? He found the phalanx himself? I believe, I don't think he built it, though I might get that wrong as well at this point. but I think he found it from the old school tech that the planet he had Inuit had and he reclaimed it from the system and then when the emperor arrived he arrived basically in that giant thing
Starting point is 00:07:18 as like a show of like my father I bestow upon you this powerful insane gift of the old ways of technology or whatever and that kind of a deal. Though I believe the emperor said, nah, keep it.
Starting point is 00:07:37 That's your thing now. Okay. So is that dark age of technology tech, or is it not that far back? I'm actually not quite sure. I don't think the, I don't think the fists built it, though it wouldn't surprise me if they did
Starting point is 00:07:49 because they like building. But I think it was prior to their big old reclaiming of the stars, that kind of stuff. Gotcha. Okay, cool. So we tried to give it to Biggie is a gift, and Biggie was like, no, my favorite, illiterate baby boy, take this as a, enjoy your new, your toy, your new base of operations. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Like, yeah, you control your worlds through this, my son, you may use it for your own pleasure. Fallonx is pretty badass, too. That is a badass home base to have. It's really cool. And considering that they're a fleet chapter, it really makes sense to have your basically carrying your moon around with you. Yeah. Though as far as Dorn went, I think I mostly was pretty good. You know, I mainly, I try to take a little bit of a different approach in the Dorn episode because I wanted to instead put more, less effort on, like, specific deeds. Things he said was fun.
Starting point is 00:08:50 It was fun listening to him scream at Gero. And he has other things. Like, I remember he has this humorous moment where he is, I guess, fighting Fulgram. And Fulgram is, like, sitting on. on like his one of his walls or something, like one of Doran's walls to the Peoria Palace or something along those lines. I don't remember the exact thing, but it's...
Starting point is 00:09:09 Dam was in your walls. Folgram is in your walls. Blaring heavy metal. He's not the person you want in your walls, man. You don't want Folgram sitting in your walls. If anyone's in your walls, it's probably Kurz. You also don't want curs in your walls either. That's the...
Starting point is 00:09:25 Well, yeah, Curz, if anyone's going to be in anyone's walls, it'll most likely be curs. Every time I think about Curz and Walls I just can't help but see that one meme picture of the SWAT guy being Lionel Johnson and Conrad Kurz being in the cabinet behind him just grinning from ear to ear. Oh yes
Starting point is 00:09:45 That is a fun one That is my always my mental image of Conrad Curz now He's got that smug-ass face is so funny He makes some statement about like You know Fulg's trying to try to get you know get at his nerves and stuff. He just has some small thing where he's like, no, you're just an idiot sitting on a wall.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Damn. Very matter of factly, Dorn. Very dorn, like, you know, just a very simple, like, no. Yeah, very stoic. Very unmoving. Yeah. He says, like, it says,
Starting point is 00:10:23 Folgram wiped his mouth with the back of his hand and smeared blood across his cheek. Are you really not going to try and convince me? Asked Folgram, that I've made a mistake. me back into the fold where I can make amends. It's like, no, said Dorn. I'm just going to kill you. Oh, boy, let's go.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That's like the Bugs Bunny he hit him with. He had him with that Bugs Money. No. Damn. He's just, he's just, no. Would Dorn be able to beat up Folgram? Uh, I don't know. Fulgum is a pretty gosh darn good duelist,
Starting point is 00:10:59 if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. I remember hearing that Fulgram did some pretty baddy shit, but it is Dorn. I mean, Dorn is no slouch. Dorn, he's the only primark to kill another primark, right? With Alpharius and or Omagon? What? Did you forget about sanguineas?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Oh, well, that's, well, okay, fair enough. Did you forget about Ferris Manus? That's okay. Everyone forgets about Ferris Manus. Yeah. Have we learned about Ferris Manus much? No, he's the Fulgroom killed him
Starting point is 00:11:32 He cut his head off Oh well fuck him Who cares He's probably pussy anyway It's fine Ironhand fans One day will get to you And one day
Starting point is 00:11:44 The pain will stop But just not today Yeah the Iron hands fans Can stay huddled up with the Blood Angels fans And the Oh shit Who's that other guy
Starting point is 00:11:54 Everybody wants us to talk about That maybe sort of killed Folgram or something Maybe sort of killed Like a cut him in half or something Dreadnought dude Oh, Rylanor No, he didn't cut him and, no, he blew up
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's all right, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine Don't worry about it, it's fine It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, All of those fans can stay huddled up together And have a little cry session, have some cookie dough, you know, it'll be all right guys We'll get you one day Shai's in the background, like, get on with it
Starting point is 00:12:23 This is all important stuff, keep it in. Oh, yeah, I think it is important, for you to remember the only Primerick to kill another Primark. Literally other Primark's dying. Well. I mean, Curz has the most kills if we count each regeneration of Vulcan.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, that's true. Yeah, I guess you could technically count those, couldn't you? All right, this is stupid. All right, so, let's talk fists, more fists. Ah, yes, you love the fisting. Love the fisting. Love big fist. That's big fist. Got a lot of Warframe fans from that. So, yeah, it's a good time.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So in terms of the fists, when it comes to recruitment of new people, they often carry around these fortress chapels on different places in the Imperium. That they can grab some recruits from Terra or Necromunda sometimes, but often they have a whole bunch of these fortress chapels on different kinds of planets. And these chapels are staffed by generally veteran imperial fists that are so wounded, they can't really fight anymore, but they still want to, you know, serve their chapter. So the Imperial Fists actually have these big fortresses on these plants, but they exercise no political right on the world.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Like, because remember I mentioned before, they don't want to rule. They're a military group. Right, right. So the staff of these facilities generally kind of just watch the world and seek potential candidates. Sometimes they'll hold tournaments or contests for suitability. Sometimes they'll actually instigate combat on the worlds to test for strong recruits because the Imperium aren't good guys. Huh.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So they'll essentially start a conflict just to see if there's anybody worth ganking for the Imperial Fists? Sometimes they also even go to hive worlds and they conduct a purge of the underhive scum and slums in order to remove undesirable elements for like, I don't know, like the planet or like the governor But sometimes when they do that They'll actually take a couple of the fighters That are deemed worthy You know decent fighters that are like Hey, this guy down there was really putting up a fight
Starting point is 00:14:42 I'm gonna snag that And so they'll take you as prisoner And then possibly try to induct you as a If you remember the original thing is called a neophyte And then kind of get you into the thing So they very much have like a recruitment through pure strength kind of thing. People who survive a conflict, people who survive a purge,
Starting point is 00:15:03 people who really, who really stand up and like try to defy us. The more you get, like, the more you defy, the generally more liked you become. Huh. Wow, yeah, the Imperium aren't really the good guys, are they? No, no, no, no, no, mm-mm. Yeah, let's start a conflict.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Why? Ah, we need more recruits. But what about all the innocents we might kill? Eh, who cares? Eh, you know, they were, they're not innocent because they weren't strong enough. It's 40K. It's fine. Kill a few innocents?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Eh. Eh, you know, there are genuine Conrad apologists out there that are like, you only skin the couple. Well, more than the like of like, oh, well, yeah, he skid the thousand people. But then the world went, you know, gave up. You know, Gilliman killed 10,000 with a war. Like a loss of life thing. But it's like, no, it doesn't work because then they. They tend to revert when they're no longer scared because that's the point.
Starting point is 00:16:01 You can't rule by fear. I was going to say, Conrad apologized. Who would apologize for night lords? Bricky. Hey, hey, they're fascinating. I don't. I like them because they're so cartoonishly evil. They're so cool, too, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:16:19 They're very fun. They're very cool. But if you like fisting, we're talking about fisting today. So very often the fists don't. don't really make any demands of the actual planet or anything, other than the right to test who they believe worthy. You know, like the people, the worlds, like they simply ask for the ability to test those they deem worthy.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And like, no matter what, like wherever the recruit comes from, whether he's like, some planet has like a warrior band or maybe like a hive gang, they basically try to instill the doctrines in them. which is all the martial qualities of the fists. The things that the fist themselves are very, you know, they hold in tradition, which is strength against pain, imovability of both emotion and fighting
Starting point is 00:17:12 and heavy attention to detail. Right. So the Imperial Fist would only post up at planets. They were like, oh yeah, we could probably get some recruits from here. They wouldn't post up at like a planet that was just a bunch of like,
Starting point is 00:17:27 weakling like farmers or something They would most likely go more in the line of Because they have these fortresses on plants that have a population on them If they're gonna go for any random backwater planet They probably take the phalanx out there and do its own thing That's fair yeah yeah No reason to waste it on a planet of like agricultural farmers or something Yeah and if you will you just bring the failings over it sort of grabs some people and you leave or maybe not even that
Starting point is 00:17:52 Maybe you just take a regular battle barge or some kind of like regular assault ship and take it over there, grab some people, and come back. Yeah, yeah, cool. As for the actual aspirants themselves, once they're picked, everything from their criminal record or like psychological profile, their muscles, their reflexes, pain resistance, all those things are tested. And then they spent around six months in the failings where they learn low Gothic, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And they also undergo their initiation, which is something known as the Tunnel of Terror. Oh boy, that sounds like just the most fun time ever. Oh, man. Now I'm just imagining like you go to a carnival and there's the tunnel of love, except like it's all Xed out and just in like Sharpie, it says terror. And you still got to go in the little dove. Yeah, you go on the dove, but the dove is like made of syringes or something. And it's like, ow, ow, ow.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And it's got like angry eyebrows that are just like glued on. Oh, it's just like the big red. eyebrows on the tunnel of oh my goodness it's the tunnel of love and then the guy comes up for maintenance he puts the eyebrows on and he's like oh no the tunnel of terror oh shit this isn't where I want to take my date
Starting point is 00:19:08 oh no good a world eaters marine shows big arm car and the betrayer oh no it's like the Perry the Platypus meme or whatever it is that the tunnel of terror though is a basically like a
Starting point is 00:19:24 gauntlet but the gauntlet changes heavily in terms of extreme heat, cold, increase, decrease gravity, pressure, spaces, empty or big, or like big and small, claustrophobia or the opposite. It's just this, it's like a pure gauntlet like that. Like, there's vacuum. Sometimes, like, it's a vacuum there. It's, like, just strange pain, but then there's, like, some safe spots here and there. And, like, it's a long tunnel with all these crazy stuff to help them adapt.
Starting point is 00:19:56 to the various, things they would need for being a space marine. So where is this tunnel of terror? Is it in the phalanx? It is on the phalanx. Remember, this is the size of a small moon. Yeah, it's just, and it can have all that shit in it, like can have vacuums and...
Starting point is 00:20:12 It's a small moon. Huh. Wow. I mean, I guess the scale of the phalanx is like, yeah, it's gigantic. I've seen pictures of, but it's like, god damn, that thing is. All right. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Tunnel of Terror. It sounds like it fits the name real well. I also, I have this in my notes, but I remember looking at it and saying like, and putting in quotes here, citation needed. Because in quote, from where I read this, it says, if the aspirant passes, he becomes a neophyte cadet and the symbol of the imperial fist is tattooed on his butttock. So what you're saying is he gets his butt-fisted Or he gets a tattoo. A putty pie brofist tattooed it upon his ass. Well, you know, let's just pretend that that's canon because it's amusing.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah, I read that from the wikian, I was like, citation needed. Yeah, definitely. Comments, if you would like to tell me where this, like, if there's a quote where you could find this, please share. Maybe it was even in that Roguele Dorm book I was reading, but I only got halfway, so I wasn't sure. It doesn't sound like a 40K thing.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Big fist symbol, tattoo on your ass? Yeah, that doesn't really sound like a thing that happens. I could be wrong, but usually if they're going to force a tattoo on you or something, it's usually going to be someplace that's pretty visible, or like, it's going to be your forehead or on your face or something like that. Usually, they don't get into, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:48 I'm going to tattoo this fist or on your ass, bruh. It's like, uh, hmm. I don't know why you made them all sound like Southern Country Hicks. I'm a tattoo, a big imperial fist on your ass, and then later we're going to do some more training. Yook, yook. It's funny because you sounded Cajun when you did my impression of Southern.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Do I sound Cajun? Yeah, he sounded a little Cajun. I was like, oh, and then we're going to go wrestle some crocodiles after I get that tattoo on your ass. brother. Jesus Christ, you got D.K. Creole over here. That's going to be
Starting point is 00:22:29 a rap name. D. Creole, dude. That's what the K stands for. I spell it with a K. Oh, my good God. My fucking grandmother's from Louisiana. They have great food down there, though. To be fair, they have great food. The dice check boys were at a party of mine. My grandmother was there, and Demecki was wearing a hat.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And she was like, son, down where I come from, you can't. wear hats down in the dinner table. I suggest she's like three bottles or three glasses of wine. And she's like, I suggest you take that off right quick. That does sound like a good old Louisiana grandma. She was wonderful. She made great gumbo.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Anyway, you think Appriot Fists make good gungbo? Are they going to be Louisiana? Have we decided that we're doing Italian word bears and Australian catch hands? And we have Louisiana boy imperial fists? Oh, hell. I love it. Yeah. Louisiana
Starting point is 00:23:25 Creole imperial feasts. I want to see, I want to see Rogel Dorn watching one of his aspirants making gumbo with one of the trials, you know? And it's like, and like they're doing the pepper and like in their arm starts to hurry.
Starting point is 00:23:40 It's like, don't you fucking stop. This is part of the trial. You must be impervious to pain. And they're just like twisting the tap at the top for like hours and hours. Oh. We've made a new meme. Look at us.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I don't know. Depends how are we going to force the meme. Yeah, whatever. All right, that's true. Anyway, after they get their ass-fisted, they then go into psycho-indocrination, which is fun, you know, a little bit of that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:24:07 getting into their eyes and clockwork oranging. Yeah, that doesn't sound as fun as a... Asmisting. It doesn't sound as fun as a, like a creole crab. What is it? Whether they have the big buffet? of like crawfish. Oh, crawfish like
Starting point is 00:24:23 Jumbalaya or that kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, like the crawfish boil and they just lay it out with all the pool. Yeah. Yeah, with the big corn and all of stuff. Yeah, yeah, that sounds so much more fun than, you know, psycho indoctrination. A boil.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Southern boil, yeah. Yeah. But then after that, they go into the induction of their implants and stuff in which they would eat, eat poisonous plants and venomous animals. Oh, no. And then for the next one of their implants,
Starting point is 00:24:50 amophagia, whatever. They have to consume meat and divine the details of the nature of the animal they ate. They go through a bit of this indoctrination in the actual Dorn book when they talk about a character known as Archimus. He was the one who got shanked
Starting point is 00:25:08 by Alfarious but saved Dorn's life. And he was the leader of the Husscarls. Archimus Way Young was actually a young named Kai. And it says he was born on Inuit, but I'll remember them saying that in the book, but I may have not gone as far enough. But he was taken as a prisoner and held for a long, long-ass time in the cell.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And Kai eventually, he was a ganger, I believe, like a hardcore ganger. Okay. And he wasn't, he was not particularly kind to any of the fists. He was actually brought in front of Rogel Doorn himself, and I think he bit his palm to the point where it bled. And Dorn was like, do you offer your blood in acceptance? He's like in defiance against you and all of you people. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And Dorn was like, good job. All right. Oh, really? Oh, he loves that. It's like, yeah, stall war in defiance. Like, you don't give in. Never give in. True.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I suppose that is one of the, sort of like the creedo of the imperial. imperial fist, right? But damn. You think if someone bit their palm, like, ah, this is in defiance of you, bitch? He'd be like, all right, I guess you're going to have to die now. Instead of just being like, well done, kiddo, join us. Not as an aspirant.
Starting point is 00:26:32 As like a chaos space reader's like, you know, another Marine, as maybe a death guard named Nathaniel Garrow, perhaps. But him, no, no, no. Though during the training, I remember he had like massive psychoanalysis with his brain and stuff. And he was on like a slab.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And all around him were just dead aspirants like seizing and and foaming at the mouth and getting removed by servitors. And he was like him like one or two out of a hundred. Then he was actually chained, like, yeah, I think chained by the neck with two other squadmates called Archimus and Yonad. And during the training, they had to fight a bunch of combat servitors and stuff, jumping at them and this kind of made
Starting point is 00:27:18 them to force to trust each other that in wit idea of like you need to be strong because if you aren't the herd dies and because they were
Starting point is 00:27:27 chained together if one of them died you know it would end up making like all of them would die because it's dead weight yeah you got that dead weight
Starting point is 00:27:35 you can't yeah oh boy that's that's a hell of a trial during one of their major trials are the other guy Archimus ended up dying
Starting point is 00:27:44 to save Kai's life and eventually when he was actually inducted in the Imperial Fis, he took the name Archimus to honor his friend. Aw, that's so heartwarming. What a guy. What a guy this guy. It was a little unfortunate when I read the part when his rib cage was open
Starting point is 00:28:02 and he was laying on, and he was laying on like the bed without anesthetic. And they were just shoving the organs into him and stuff. And he was like, I'm not going to give up. I'm not going to pass out. I won't do it. And they're just like putting shit in him. and like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Oh, God, he had his rib cage open with no anesthesia, and they were just jamming organs in there and attaching them to him? Imperial fists like pain. It's a big part of their culture. Holy shit. I get that, because, you know, magic pain love tell me what to do.
Starting point is 00:28:34 But, ho, that's a lot. That's a whole other level of, ow. So, after all that stuff, after the sheer volume of pain and problems and stuff, they have to go with, eventually they have an initiation ceremony and the Neophyte's family is informed that their kid has become a space marine.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And they may rejoice in their offspring's great fortune. Cool. Because, of course, and then they'll never see their kid again. Hey, at least they can be like, hey, my kid's a space marine. Like, that's, you know, that's a lot of pride for someone in the Imperium, you know? I was thinking there was going to be something
Starting point is 00:29:12 nightmares that happen at the initiation. Like, oh, for your initiation, I'm going to take out your spleen with my fist. I'm just going to reach in and cut it. They actually use the fist and they make the incision where you got the tattoo on your ass and then they go in through there. Oh, boy, that's, yeah, that's, oof, that out hurt. That'd be a pain in the ass, if you will. Magic pain ass.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Tell me what I was due. So, past that, so you know, you get your initiation, you become yourself an Imperial Fist. As the doctrine itself, like how the Fists fight, we kind of mention that. It's so strange because the Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists, the Siege Fortify meme is also a text-to-speech meme. I always find it humorous because the siege fortified meme is a meme, but both chapters are kind of both really good at both. Yeah. Like, they're both fortification builders. they're both siege, like crafters,
Starting point is 00:30:12 they're both really good at both types of warfare. The Imperial Fists are great at sieging. They are great at Fortify, and they're great to holding a position, and they're really good at trying to get rid of one. So with the art of the siege, the Imperial Fists are super dogged in that sense where it's like they are completely immovable in their defense.
Starting point is 00:30:32 They just, you can not get past them. They are a phalanx. Hey, you know, a, you know, pure fortiolingable. position can't can't break them but they also are really good at identifying weak points and breaking through other defenses and just finding the problems and
Starting point is 00:30:50 the structures and reducing it to rubble when you're great at building stuff you're probably pretty damn good at breaking it too just like the iron warriors yeah the iron warriors are the exact same they love their siege and their shelling and all that but they also built the iron cage
Starting point is 00:31:06 ooh but you can't take the Iron Cage. That's part of the reason actually why Imperial Fists tend to have a lot of casualties. They're, they, like, will refuse to fall back.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Hmm. Or that an enemy can't be broken. And because of that, they'll keep going. Like, instead of they, this position is a compromise, we need to leave. They'll be like, no way in hell. Got to see. You got to keep moving forward. We're sitting here. Yeah. Yeah. And by the hand
Starting point is 00:31:38 of Dorn, we will hold this position. and they'll lose a lot of people. It's the same reason why they lost so many in the Iron Cage Bell because they wouldn't stop trying to go for his throat. Until Gilliman showed up and was like, hey, maybe stop being so stupid. Why? What was that accent he had? I'm not exactly sure what that accent was.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It was so stupid. I just threw it out there, you know? It's Gilliman. Who cares? It's Gilman, right? I like Gilliman. He's pretty cool. actually. Yeah, he's cool now. Now he's cool. Old Gilliman, boring. New Gilliman, full of
Starting point is 00:32:16 ultra depression, actually a pretty compelling story. Very fun. Yeah. But that makes the fists particularly great with big heavy weapons. They're really, they love their bolter, as I mentioned before. They love all the flavors of bolter, but they like their tanks. They like their artillery. You know, they, they love to just reduce stuff to rubble when possible. They're not a very fast chapter. I mean, everyone has some stuff, but yeah. You know, they, they're very much just like that grinding assault. Right. If they need to assault. Would they be on par with kind of like how the death guard are kind of like a slow moving like force that are just like very slowly and meticulously they move forward? I mean, not as maybe mindless as the death guard, but kind of like
Starting point is 00:33:02 that same idea of they're not going to be like zoom-shund white scarring you, but like they're just just this like steady, big shield that keeps moving forward? I'd say that the death guard are able to pull that off because of their laughably large amounts of, like, tankiness. And also because they're breaking the enemy with their plagues and disgusting crap like that. Oh, yeah. So not only are they moving up slowly because they're death guard, but they're moving up slowly, won't take much damage and the enemy won't be hitting them as much because they're puking their guts out. Yeah, and they're sick.
Starting point is 00:33:37 The Imperial Fists, they do the same, but they do it with expert-like tactics and build craft. Right, right, naturally, yeah. Yeah, so instead of the Death Guard just being this immobile failings of walking forward, the Imperial Fists just can see every weakness in a battle line, every weakness of a structure, and they can fortify all of theirs to where they have none. Man, they must be a pain in the ass to fight. Unless, I'm not sure, the Iron Warriors, of course. Then they love you. Then they love doing it.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Like, hell, yeah. Yeah, that's their dream. But yeah, it must, otherwise, it must be an absolute pain in the ass to fight the Imperial Fist. Yeah, I mean, in the tabletop, they're right terrible, unfortunately. But they're probably the weakest Marine faction, which is too bad. But they are certainly, probably, like, yeah, probably quite annoying to try to deal with because you can't break their position. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And even if you do, they'll throw them their own lives away to try to defend it anyway. So with that, it kind of goes back into their belief of like Rogaldorm was the, you know, the Great Crusade, right? They used the head, not the head of the Great Crusade, I guess the emperor, but just this fresh thing of victories and believing in the emperor and believing in the Imperium. And that mentality still sticks around with them quite a lot. The siege of Terra in particular has a pretty big effect on them. that struggle, that main struggle, and to them that failure is a huge part of how they feel. Like they were the defenders of terror and they failed. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Thorne felt that way too, right? He felt really like, yeah. It's a very, it's like a feeling of shame for a lot of them. And so there's a lot of like ceremonies and honor with that kind of stuff for just like things like promotions and just kind of like respective stuff of that nature. A lot of like What's the term looking for? A lot of these customs were made
Starting point is 00:35:41 to make us so that they observe their deeds quite a lot to prove themselves But they also have a second custom Where they have an adjustment surname Depending on the chapter person Like they'll always have a name post Like Captain Coorland
Starting point is 00:35:59 Or the name is slaughter or Dolores Dalaros which is kill shot or like a captain something is severance They always have these like special names
Starting point is 00:36:14 Rogel Doran's name was defiance Naturally Okay okay So they're known as wall names Of course Get in the wall And those who have earned these names Are known as instead of Battle Brothers
Starting point is 00:36:28 They're known as Wall brothers Because you know It's like it's like the stalwart idea that they've earned these names, like good shots or kill shot, cold eye, life taker, cleaver, bleed out, etc. Very, very like spec ops tactical names, you know? Yeah. I guess it would make sense for them to be called Wall Brothers because they're like they're fortified like a wall. They're strong like a wall.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I mean, you know, if you're Wall Brothers, you all form walls and you form like this impenetrable barricade. And I kind of get that. I like that idea of being like Wall Brothers and being considered a wall. you know, for the Imperial Fist. That makes sense. Yeah, I mean, it goes along with their culture quite easily. Yeah, yeah, definitely. They also like to partake in honor duels quite often
Starting point is 00:37:12 for way in the days back on Terra. That makes sense. They love, like, to duel with each other, obviously, because it's good, and it's good for the fighting itself and test their swordsmanship. And you're only permitted to do these duels if you're a full-fledged battle brother. No neophytes, none of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Right, right, right. Because they want honorable, like, good fights. You don't want to beat up on a neophyte that just joined the Imperial Fist. There's no honor in that. And there's no, unless, yeah, and also I don't think they're fully fledged yet. I don't know if a neophyte is fully, like, implanted. I forget the exact specifics, but, you know, they're not going to beat up on someone who's, like, a regular human. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:48 But, like, two duelers will enter the arena, completely stripped down to the waist with protective eyewear, but they have their feet, like, locked in these big boots that are generally maglocked. and then they salute an umpire and then they will invoke and activate some kind of instrument and then they will they will fight and they have their big old fights and it'll last probably a matter of minutes and until a quick silver cheek wound
Starting point is 00:38:20 ends the contest a slice upon the cheek oh okay and that's how you sort of win yep they salute each other and then they step back and then The servitors will then hurry to bring them these great foaming stone steins. One red and one black. And it says to drink in one draw and then smash the other into shards.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Damn. Okay. So this is like proper sport for them. Yeah, yeah. It's a big deal. And so they'll have like dueling scars over their bodies and stuff for hard won victories. That kind of thing. All right, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:39:02 They also do a lot of scrimshying, which is actually a pretty big part of their culture is scrimshowing. Scrimshowing. I am blanking on what scrimshowing is. I've heard of it before, and I am blanking on it. Images and words carved into bone. Ooh, okay. Think what the Carcadons did,
Starting point is 00:39:24 where they have like scrimshaw talismans and stuff of that nature. Oh, okay. Cool, cool. Yeah, yeah. Well, like, yeah, like, this little guy. Okay, it's a little, okay, that did not, that did not post the way I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Let's try this again. There we go, like this guy, like a scrimshaw. You know, you kind of carve into bow and things like that. Yeah, yeah. They really like their skirm shying. And they even have a little mantra when they do it. It says fists of beauty, fingers of death, Empress Fists with Death, or Fingers of Beauty,
Starting point is 00:40:00 Why? I fucked this up. Did I write this wrong? I'm going to the wiki. I fucked up. I screwed up. I think I accidentally over, like, I copy this over something else. There we go. Fists of beauty, fingers of death,
Starting point is 00:40:16 Emperor's fists with death is our trist. Trist. Trist. Yeah, Trist. Trist. Sure, yeah. Trist. What hell is Trist mean? I don't know. It's a big important word
Starting point is 00:40:28 that big important people use. It's not big at all. It's only five letters. Well, I mean, it's like an old-timey word that nobody uses anymore. And the only reason you use it now is to sound all big and important and shit. Noun, a private romantic rendezvous between lovers. Pronounced like trist. Oh, because of course it rhymes. Fists of beauty, fingers of death.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Emperor's fists with death is our trist. Oh, all right. They're poets, but they don't know it. They love... They love their, their scrimshawing type of stuff. That's actually a big part of their culture. And as they become higher and ranked,
Starting point is 00:41:06 they generally dawn a lot more scrimshaw kind of talismans and bones stuff around their bodies. Because scrimshawing on the actual hand of Dorn is a big part. The names of the chapter masters, which I think I mentioned before. That's right. You did mention it. I didn't realize that was called scrimshowing at the time.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah. The officers, captains, lieutenants, they wear scrimshaws as jewelry, as holy decorations, incorporating tiny little slivers of the emperor's own armor, apparently, from eons and eons ago before he was imprisoned. Oh. And these polished and grave scrimshaws will depict tons of things, weapons, other armor, like little mini...
Starting point is 00:41:48 What was the thing that the Night Lord Dreadnought Micrarian had yet? The mural of him, like, on the skull of three imperial space marines? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little, like, murals like that attached to these, like, deeds of honor, that kind of stuff. Hmm. Whose bones are they using specifically here? Is it just bones of people they've killed? Is it bones of, like, their fallen brothers?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Uh, does it matter? Like, what bone that they scrimshaw on? I don't know. I would imagine fallen brothers and stuff would be the idea. Yeah. Because that just sounds like the fists, but I actually don't know. Yeah, because I can't imagine. yeah, I killed this space rain, let me harvest his bones and use it as a trink.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Well, I guess you could, because then it's like, oh, yeah, I'm such a badass. Like, look, this is a fucking heretics bones. And look at how many I killed, because I got a full-ass necklace of them. Bitch. Or it could be like, my battle brother died in combat. And I honor him by wearing him still in the battle so he fights with me once more. Yeah, I could see both of them being a thing, actually. Huh, that's a great question.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Of a really good kill, but also like a really close brother. Like one for one is like a way to sort of show how tough you are Another one to honor your your battle brother your wall brothers It's also important because it goes along with the meticulousness of detail Fists like Dorn you know do it right or don't do it at all The fists have that importance of being incredibly Hyper specific and hyper meticulous with everything they do So being able Scrimshaw and Scrimshaw a lot is a pretty tough art
Starting point is 00:43:24 You know? Yeah, yeah So doing it properly is huge Yeah, got to get plenty of kills, so you have plenty of canvas, too. So there's also the pain glove, of course. Of course. Here's a quote by one of the chaplains of the Imperial Fists. It says, pain is a lesson that the universe teaches us.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Pain is the preserver from injury. Pain perpetrates, or perpetuates our lives. It is the healing, purifying scalpel of our souls. Pain is the wine of communion with heroes. It is the... quicksilver panacea for weakness, the quintessence of a dedicated existence. Pain is the philosophic vitriol, which transmutes mere mortal into immortal. It is the sublime, the golden astral fire. So, this is a chaplain, so they're crazy, but. Yeah, it's going to say really,
Starting point is 00:44:21 really, yeah, they're a little insane. It is, uh, it is, uh, it is, it is, it is, A couple things. It is used either as a punishment for neophytes, but for veterans, they use it as meditation. The idea is that through pain and suffering, they will see clearly. They will see past the pain. Because when you experience something as violent,
Starting point is 00:44:45 as rough as pain, the ideas of making decisions comes so much easier. Okay. So, for example, the pain glove itself is, nerve shriving excruciating nerve striving or shriving uh sometimes solar hours or days in said glove and the glove is a steel framework suspended within a transparent cling tight one piece tunic embroidered with fine silvery wires so that exposes the human nervous system as if it is hanging within
Starting point is 00:45:25 It is placed over the tops of the shoulders Or it only lacks the head and top of the shoulder There, but it is across the rest of your body As you are naked when you go into it And it clings to your body And it electrocutes and stimulates your nerve endings Throughout your body And you feel a bunch of agony
Starting point is 00:45:46 Sometimes you could adjust it In the feeling of being roasted or incinerated alive Okay It could be like like the feeling of flaying. It could be all these kinds of feelings because it's going to your nerve endings. And then they take it off and they're like, I'm enlightened. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:46:08 That sounds awful. Yeah, it's not great. No, that sounds like the worst thing ever. But to them, it's their kind of meditation. To them, because just like how an imperial fist must be defiant in all attributes pain is one of them. To be stalwarted unmoving, pain is one of them.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah. So, you know, it makes them pretty tough. Yeah, I mean, I was going to say that that will make for a very tough soldier, like if they are willing to endure that just for some clarity, like, if they're
Starting point is 00:46:47 like, oh yeah, let me just, oh man, I need a tough day at the office. You know, I got into a fight with the misses, and I really just need to clear my head. What am I going to do? Am I going to go have a couple beers with the boys? Of course not. I need to go feel what it feels like to get flayed alive and burn to a crisp. Like, holy shit. Like, can you imagine ever to fight someone that does that? Mm-mm. Yeah, the person who takes pain and they're just like, mm, meditation.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Delightful. What a relaxing thing for me. Oh, now, I can see clearly now the rain is gone. Like, ooh. Yeah, I wouldn't want to fight an, I would not want to fight an iron war. or an Imperial fist. Or an Iron Warrior, but yeah. Yeah, you wouldn't want to fight either, but particularly I can understand the difficulty would be dealing with it. Yeah, dueling one of those fuckers
Starting point is 00:47:36 has got to be just impossible. So you actually have the gene seat itself, of course, and some have mutations. Theirs is pretty good. Never has any real sign of mutations, generally pretty stable. There are only two issues. They've apparently lost the use of their betcher's gland,
Starting point is 00:47:54 which allows them to have poisonous spit. Apparently they don't have poisonous spit anymore, which is interesting. That's not too bad. And they also lost their suss in membrane, which allows them to enter a state of suspended animation, which I didn't realize that their sousine membrane was not working either. That's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:48:17 But as for their actual gene seed, of course, it comes down from dorm. And because of that, it causes a few other issues, which is, one, never faltering ever from a position, which costs them a lot of casualties. Two, meticulous, ridiculous attention to detail, scrimshaw, figuring that stuff out. And three, no one is ever flawless. The idea that after they finish a mission, they will meticulously hardcore find all the faults they have with their own actions and their squad, which will make them become sometimes withdrawn and confrontational. which they're like they won't accept or issue any order doesn't result in imminent battle because they don't like they didn't know
Starting point is 00:49:01 they're super hyper fucking analyzing themselves and they're like yeah look look back at your plays coach that kind of shit yeah and you just hyperanalyze everything yeah I mean that all does sound very like dorn traits that would pass down for better or for worse so yeah I mean that that all makes sense there is uh there is apparently a strange genetic deficiency that
Starting point is 00:49:23 arrives in some of the successor chapters called Dorn's Darkness. Uh-oh. Apparently Dorn's Darkness, it says it takes one of their number, it might not appear very obvious, the untrained eye. It's maybe like a little bit of a slackness of a jaw
Starting point is 00:49:39 or a limb's tremor or a blankness of an eye. But those who survive it apparently report the experience itself as a straight up living nightmare. A sleeping wakefulness where they relive the bottomless woes of
Starting point is 00:49:56 Dorn himself during his most trying time they will feel the same pain and agony of Dorn walking in and seeing his dying father and dead brother you know like every like a pure one to one ratio of what he felt and the profound misery that he experienced and apparently it is very
Starting point is 00:50:19 prominent in a subchapter called the Exoriators. Wow, that's a name and a half. Yeah, Exoriators. They are Exorriators, whatever. They're a successor of Imperial Fists, and they apparently have that problem a lot more commonly. Damn. And so apparently what might happen is they'll be left in the chair,
Starting point is 00:50:43 the care of the chapter's Santayarch, or senior church, Chaplain in order to offer some kind of solemn to this spiritual like darkness their feeling. Sometimes even something with like a stasis casket, which because this might end up, end up with them dead. And they'll be put in like a decorative stasis casket. It's really weird. It's a, it's like, it's like almost like death from a broken heart. It's kind of bizarre.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah, a little bit. I don't know a whole lot about this. If, if the comments would like to share a bit more of the feeling. and a little bit of more specificity, that'd be awesome, because I can't really get a lot from it, but it seems really interesting. So it just, if you're inflicted with Dorn's darkness, you just at a random time just feel like the immense depression
Starting point is 00:51:37 that Dorn did at like seeing what sanguineous in the emperor basically dead? Like the soul-crushing pain of what he felt, yeah. Yeah. And it just kind of washes over you at random, times and you need to does that how it works? It just sort of happens sometimes? I'm not 100% sure.
Starting point is 00:51:59 That's what I'm trying to like figure out. It's like I'm not 100%. It seems quite strange and weird, but I'm not fully sure. That is a crippling thing to have happen. Yeah. Because that is a that's a boy.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah. Yeah, a little more specificity if you could comment section. That'd be great. Yeah, I like... It sounds interesting, but yeah. So, with all that, we'll talk a little bit about their characters. Not a ton, because a lot of their big characters have moved on to a different chapter,
Starting point is 00:52:35 which we'll cover later on, the Black Templars. Ah. So, so I know that the viewers really fucking badly want me to talk about Sigismund. Okay. Sigismund is kind of the coolest dude ever and is arguably
Starting point is 00:52:56 one of the most badass first captain remember how everyone has their first captain you've got typhus, you've got Karn you've got Aramon, you've got
Starting point is 00:53:09 Sevatar you've got all these first captains, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sevatore was the night Lord one, and Sigismind is the Imperial Fist's one. And he eventually went to go become the high marshal of the Black Templars.
Starting point is 00:53:27 As, quote, zeal makes all things possible. Duty makes all things simple. Oh. All right. All right. Yeah, he is a guy. No kidding. I believe he was also the one who said in the far future,
Starting point is 00:53:47 will only be war. Well, he's right. He is right. He is spot on. But Sigismund is an interesting guy. This is what he looked like as a imperial fist. Pretty normal actually for a space marine, actually. And then he became a black Templar.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Oh, boy. He got his emo face. Yeah, he sure did. I mean, and he got some drip, too. Like, damn. Look at that sword. Yeah, high marshal black Templars This guy, if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:54:24 he was one of the best dualists in all of the Battle Brothers And the only other person who matched him Was Night Lord's captain Sevatar But in particular, Sevatar at the end of their incredibly long fight He just cheats Of course.
Starting point is 00:54:47 he's the knight lord. He's not interested in fighting fair. Yeah, he cheats, and by doing so, he, uh, he is disqualified and loses. Mm-hmm. But, you know, it's like... He doesn't care. You know, he doesn't give a fuck, you know, so... He won, who cares? Savitar and Sigismund battle is kind of a fun one, but Sigisman, we'll talk about him more
Starting point is 00:55:09 in the Black Templars episode, but what of my favorite quotes that he has is when he's speaking directly to Abadon of the spoiler. Wow, Mr. The Spoiler, huh? Mr. The spoiler, and he specifically says, you will die as your weakling father died, soulless, honorless, weeping, and ashamed. And it's pretty metal.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Whoa. We'll talk more about Sigismund and Black Templar, but yeah, he's a guy. Wow. That, oh boy, he looks very cool in that Black Templar outfit. Like the, the, the Imperial, fist out, is just like,
Starting point is 00:55:47 oh, okay, whatever, he's a space Marine, yeah, yeah, okay,
Starting point is 00:55:49 cool, he has a face. But that black Templar shit and that, like, crackling blue,
Starting point is 00:55:55 lightning sword, and, who, now I want a black Templar episode, even though they're apparently
Starting point is 00:56:01 not good people, the black Templars? Black Templars are, um, well, take the, the zealotry of the sisters
Starting point is 00:56:13 of battle and apply them to a space marine marine chapter. Oh, that's right. I think you've told me that before. Maybe in the last episode you told me that, and I've already forgotten, but whatever. Yeah, I do remember you saying that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Okay. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, they're, no, they're, they're pretty evil. They are arguably the most evil of the loyalist space marine chapters, but they're fun. And, you know, if you're a person who likes knights and you like, you like old school crusaders and shit, but they literally have something called a crusader squad. like you'll you'll enjoy that if you if you enjoy that old school times you know okay okay I think it's a pretty cool vibe so yeah I think it'll be pretty cool when we do eventually talk about them not confirming what the next episode's gonna be
Starting point is 00:56:57 I am not confirming the next episode is black Templars nope nobody's confirming it wink wink no I'm I'm genuinely not confirming the next episode of black templars I do not know what the next episode's going to be yeah chat we're not confirming that the next Holy shit. Black Templars. I am going to do another guard episode just to make them upset. I'm here for it. We're going to make another Necron episode just because we can. I'm here for whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I would actually be okay with another guard episode. I would actually love another Neckron episode. I mean, I like both those things, so I wouldn't mind. Of course you do. As for characters that are currently usable on the tabletop Imperial Fist style people. You've got, I believe, two that I can think of at the moment. You've got Captain Lysander and Tor Garadon. Lysander sounds very familiar.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Lysander is this guy. I don't think we've talked about him. I actually read a book about him when I was like 14 years old. Damn. Long time ago, huh? It was a while. And it was, I think it was called, it wasn't called Pandaracts. It was called like something close to that name.
Starting point is 00:58:13 It's like another axe one. And I remember he was leading a force of their first company because he's a first, I think he's a first captain. And he was lost in a warp storm. And then I think thrown on like a random chaos held planet with the iron warriors there and a curse, in a cursed fortress world called Maladrax was the name. And he was tortured.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I think they were all tortured there for years. and eventually, without any weapons or armor, he made his way to escape, found this chapter, and just tried to destroy the hell out of the actual planet. I think he actually barred a deal with a fucking demon. Wow. Yeah, and the inquisition came to him, he was like, we're going to test you when he came back.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And he was fine. He'd no signs of chaos taints. Oh, well, good for him. Oh, man, I imagine it would be very, very difficult to torture and break an imperial fist. It's gotta be fucking impossible. Yeah, obviously, I'm not surprised that you were like, oh yeah, they tortured him for years.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Oh, but he was fine, he got out, he was fine. It's like, oh, yeah, for an imperial fist, most tortures probably child's play compared to the magic pain glove. Magic pain glove. Tell me what to do. The, yeah, I don't remember much about that book because it's been so long, but I remember them coming back and being the shit out of the Iron Warriors.
Starting point is 00:59:39 and then him brokering a deal with a demon and the kind of stuff like that. I remember it being pretty dope, but he's got a big ass hammer and a big ass shield, and he'll beat your ass. Yeah, it sure looks like it. He sure looks. He'll beat the shit out of you,
Starting point is 00:59:54 just old school, just plow the shit out of you with a hammer and, you know, yeah. And I mean, his hammer is literally called Fist of Dorn. Because, of course, it is. Of course it is. Why not? Oh yeah, it actually looks kind of like a fist that's holding the hammer part. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 That's cool. That's cool. The other guy, and this is a much more recent one, this guy's name is Tor Geridon. And he is a chunky lad. I was going to say he looks fucking stupid. That picture of him looks so dumb. He was a more recent. better. His mini is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:00:40 The minnie's great. That other picture, he looks like, er, bacon. Bacon? Yeah, it looks like he's like, I need bacon. Give me meat. If you zoom in on his face, he's like covered in blood. Is that? Oh, whatever. Yeah, he looks like he's honking around for a fucking meal, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Oh, my God. All right. The mini is badass, though. That mini is sick. He's another captain. He, I think you remember helped using it, like help command the failings for a while during the fall Acadia, which was a big part of his stuff. He has to have a whole lot of lore right now. But the main thing is he uses something called Mark 10 Gravis armor, which is a new armor that they've added to the game just recently with their updates of like the Primaris stuff. And so that's why he's a relatively recent model because of that.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Because he's got the most up-to-date armor that a space marine could possibly have. Yes. He's a pretty cool guy, but there's not a whole lot of about him, so I think we need a little bit more time to learn about him. I think a lot of the Imperial Fist characters come down to High Marshal Helbrecht and Sigismind and some of the successor chapters, because the other major character I can think of was Archimus, which was, or Archimus, which was the guy from the Dorm book, who was Kai, who got stabbed by Alfarious, that whole deal. Oh, right, right, right. He's the other major character, the leader of the Huscarls, but A lot of their characters, I don't, besides Sigismund and like Helbrecht and stuff, I don't, there's not a whole lot I can think about in terms of them.
Starting point is 01:02:16 The notable character list, besides like Dorn and all that, obviously, but yeah, I can't think of a whole lot of extra ones. I mean, you know, we have had single character episodes before. We could always come back and do a full episode on one of them. Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Like, totally fine, but, and hell, Sigismund in his own right might deserve an entire episode just by himself, if I'm being honest. Yeah, yeah, we could absolutely come back. back around to any of those people. Sure. Why not? We've done it before. We've done it before. Do it again.
Starting point is 01:02:44 His damn fist is literally called Hand of Defiance. That's a pretty big deal. It's a cool one. Damn. That armor, that new what is it, Mark 10 Gravix Armour? G-R-A-V-I-S. Gravis Armour. That fist
Starting point is 01:03:02 is indeed massive. It is huge. Huge. Jesus. and I'm assuming those are like targeting cameras for that big old cannon on his shoulder. I believe that hand is called a grab gun.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Grab guns are particularly good because they are, they use the gravity and the mass of whatever they're firing at against them so they do extra damage against like units that have high armor saves and stuff so they're good against Marines and vehicles. That thing above his head up, I think is the
Starting point is 01:03:33 Cignam array, which I believe allows him to, yeah, kind of like a pointer kind of help with targeting that kind of thing. That's cool. That's dope. So he's got to be a pretty important character if he's like the only one that has that Mark 10 armor that, right? Oh, no, no, no. The Mark 10 armor is very common.
Starting point is 01:03:50 You can, many of the new characters use it. They're not new characters, but there's a bunch of like units you can feel that wear Gravis armor. It's just that armor was recently made and he's one of the few characters that wears it. Oh, okay, cool. So it's not a big special deal. It's just like, oh yeah, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:04:07 That's Mark 10 armor. Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit fancier than other armor, sure. But, like, Terminator armor is a bit tougher, but not as, like, thick. You know, regular armor is smaller, but offers more mobility, because you lose that mobility with that. I don't know, like regular space marines are toughness four. That armor is toughness five. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And they generally have, like, one extra HP. Marines are normally toughness four to health. Gravis armor is toughness five, three health. But, like, Terminators are toughness four. But they have three health and a two upsaving, seven. Three upsavis, whatever. It's all game stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Gotcha. Though I do know the hand of defiance, his fist, does strength times three, which is, makes some strength 12, which is fucking hilarious because he just rolls up with this big ass fist and he's like, die and he just punches your head off. Damn. It's kind of funny. Can you imagine getting punched by that thing? I mean, now you punched a shit out of a truck.
Starting point is 01:05:04 You turn into a mist. Yeah. Yeah, you know, fine powder. It's like, where'd Gary go? He just breathed him in. The Imperial Fits have a stratagem literally called pain is a lesson. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:05:18 You know it. You know, you know they like their stuff. They do. They're masochists. Actually, what are some of these funny-ass Imperial Fist strategies? We've got bitter enmity, bolstered defenses, Pretorians, Rath, Sappers, clearance protocols, Sentinel of Terra, gift of the phalanx, the shield unwavering.
Starting point is 01:05:40 No, that is, that is as Imperial Fist as you could possibly get. What the hell even is this? In the end of your morale phase, selected Imperial Fist infantry unit within three inches of an objective marker. Until the start of your next turn, add one to the attacks characteristics of models in that unit, and resolving attack made against that unit at one of the saving throw.
Starting point is 01:05:59 That's actually pretty good. Wait, what the hell? Wait, that's actually probably, it's added one of the saving throws so it actually adds with the the new armor of contempt buff they just got wait this is oh it's two CPS it's a little expensive but wait a second
Starting point is 01:06:15 that ain't that ain't bad you heard it here first viewers Bricky's gonna start an imperial fist army let's go can't wait to see it well done yes yes oh my god they literally have a psychic power called Fortify of course they do
Starting point is 01:06:31 of course they do why wouldn't they yep makes sense PONIC purge, rack and ruin. Oh my God. Very on the nose. Very, very, very, very good. Very, very on the nose. Very imperial fist fitting.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Very, but fun. Hmm. Hmm. All right. I mean, that's about, oh, that's funny. Bitter enmity is a special strategy to kill Iron Warriors. Makes sense to why it's called bitter enmity then. Let's go. Yep, yep, that's perfect sense.
Starting point is 01:07:01 All right. I think it's about it. It's about it. It's about it, you know? Overall, casual covering of everything going on. Feeling good, looking, learning, all that good stuff. Magic pain glove. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yep. I know the meme now. I know the meme. Look at me. Tell me what to do. Right? Yeah. Sorry, the magic pain glove was speaking to me.
Starting point is 01:07:32 That was a solid screech you got there going. I had to answer it, you know. Shy, I'd like you to take that screech, please, isolate it. And then I want you to adjust it. Maybe it turned into a song, you know, kind of like the Cowboys yelling. And then like, you know, maybe get some reverb on that one, play that shit at the end of the episode. We'll call it here. God, please don't do that.

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