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Welcome everyone to another episode of The Adeptus Ridicomis podcast.
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So how about today's episode, huh?
Am I getting a quote or what?
How about those war hammers?
Yeah,
how about those war hams?
Those war hams.
So I do have a quote for you.
I love,
Oh, rum ham.
Rumham.
Rumham?
Um.
Rum ham.
This is ham.
So,
in rum.
All right.
So,
I'm sad.
You don't watch
Voice Sunny in Philadelphia.
No, I don't.
Sorry.
It's a very dumb show
but in a good way.
Anyway,
yeah,
your quote.
It hasn't been a while
since you've actually
guessed a quote.
That's true,
yeah.
All right.
We've been doing so many
of the blood angels
and, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's hit it.
We are the
iron fist of the
machine god.
We are,
above all, above the orders of Terra and of Mars. We are beyond the command of our forge worlds.
By ancient design, we are independent to avoid ensnarm it in the politics of men. We safeguard
the dominions of the cult mechanicus as we see fit. We argue or agree to audience for petitions
for aid and grant our might according to our own will upon the petitioner's merits. We are not
hold.
Well, this
definitely sounds
like an
ad mech
episode.
It's
Forge World,
it's called Mechanicus,
a lot of that
going on.
Yeah,
yeah.
I don't know
what specific
part of
admec this is,
though.
So I,
it's got to be
some
wonky little
admec cult,
right?
Part of me
wants to say
Dark Mechanicum
because that'd
be
cool, but there was nothing that sounded overly
chaotic about that.
So,
you know,
a fair enough guess.
Obviously, the admec part is
easy, but a fair enough
guess on Colt Mechanicum, but it
is not. It is not the Colt Mechanicum.
Any other
guesses, or are you out?
Belisarius call.
It's an episode on call.
Also not a terrible
one, that we are not told kind of.
Not terrible. Not terrible.
Um, no, it does not call either.
Damn it.
Uh, we are talking about the Titans.
The Titan legions, the big fucking robots.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah, you know, Titans, Admec, you know.
Yeah, Titans Admec, you know.
Yeah, Titans Admec.
That's fair.
That's fair.
It makes sense.
It's not like, it wasn't the easiest of quotes, but it's, it makes sense when you think
about it now.
Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.
I wasn't thinking about, like, giant robots.
Oh, damn it.
Yeah, it's not a Kyrioth episode.
Ironically, because next episode will be a Kiryoth episode.
Ooh.
Because this episode is covering Titans,
but is more specifically covering the establishment,
the recruitment, some specifics of the Titans and all that,
as opposed to the covering of the Titans themselves.
The individual ones,
we will go right back to our usual vehicle man, Kirov, and
hell yeah.
Next week we will have him on to talk about those.
Okay.
So I always get Titans and Knights mixed up.
Are Titans significantly bigger and badder than Knights?
Or is it the other way around?
Yes, absolutely.
Titans are gigantic.
Knights are pretty big, but like,
I think if you look at like
say an armager club
you know what
night size 40K
I'm gonna look this on
Are the armagers the ones that I have
The ones that I built?
Yes those are the small knights
Yeah those are small knights
Yeah
I don't actually have a specific specificity
On night size but
There is the minis
If it makes it a little bit easier
So on the right hand
side of the top picture
there's like a dreadnought there
like a little boxy dreadnought
and there's your knight
and there is your smallest
titan next to that night
and then there's your
Titan above that one
and then there's two more above that
one not shown
oh wow
yeah Titans are big boys
holy shit
yes they are
they are very very large
a knight is often
I think always crude by a single person
however
tights are like
multiple crews.
Right.
So you may remember a little bit in the betrayer book.
That, I believe, is an emperor-class titan that Shai just posted.
Oh, oh, oh, right, the ones with the cathedrals on their backs, right?
Yeah, the, why is the church moving towards us?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Now I'm, now I'm on the level playing field of, okay, that's a titan.
An emperor-class titan is a whole other beast, though.
That is like...
That's a walking city.
That is a rarity.
That is a rarity, rarity thing.
Those are gigantic.
We'll talk a bit about the main four, I'd say, that are in the kind of like play.
But besides those, there's tons and tons of options.
But yes, a titan is often crewed by a couple of people.
You may remember in the Betrayer book that there was the Princeps and then the Moderati.
Wasn't it?
Moderati Bligh.
was their name?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's the Princeps,
which is the main big honcho,
and then there are two,
there's various amounts of moderatai,
which is depending on how many of the needs.
They boarded the Titan, right?
Yeah, and they whacked him in the face.
Wacked him in the face with his snazhammer.
Oh, that, wow, that was,
for some reason in that book,
I kept thinking that Titan was like the size of like a knight,
and now that I'm like better on scale it's like oh shit
so actually it's a little bit crazier than even that
um so I so like
they smashed into a warlord class titan
so if you look at this image I just sent you
um right so like the warlord is third
from the right so the one the one that stepped on Angron
was a war hound, which is the middle one.
Oh.
So, yeah, brutal cunning took down a warlord titan,
which is why Titan fans mauled the fuck out at that book,
because what the hell?
You know, now knowing the scale a little bit better,
I can see how a few Titan fans would maybe copseed mulled a little bit
about the warlord Titan being taken out that easily.
I can't see that now.
Granted, it was a weird thing.
They used a shock jump dragsta to teleport inside their shields
and then whack its cockpit.
Yeah, so it's a little specific.
Also, there's your armager way down there on the bottom left.
So tiny.
It's very small.
So tiny.
But anywho, the problem with talking about Titans
is that Titans will often involve just us
comparing dick sizes.
Like, who's got the biggest Titan?
Who's got the biggest robot?
Yep.
So, anyway, we'll move on to the actual specific.
So, Titans, also known as God engines and God machines.
They are fielded by the...
Right, yeah, rightfully so.
Those are giant.
Fielded by the Titan legions of the Admex Collegia Titanica.
Now, there are as like Zemnichael.
those titans though I think the imperials don't like to call them titans because it besmirches the name of the
admex holy word um so there's like el dari phantoms or like uh orc gargans you remember the gargans
oh yeah yeah yeah the hume gargant umy gargant yeah so they have those variants because they don't
clash with their beautiful view of humanity of course um but the first titans were built during the age of
strife on Mars used by the newest religion, the cult Mechanicus, soon to become the
Adeptus Mechanicus, in order to rid the mutants and the various clans across Mars that were
taking over the area.
Now, these Titans then accompanied afterwards, the Colt Mechanicus through the warp,
establishing forge worlds, creating a multitude of Titan legions, which is an armed force
entirely made up of Titans, which can vary.
from about a dozen to 2 to 300,
which imagine fielding 2 to 300 Titans.
I was going to say,
who's going to stand up to that?
You know, that would actually not be a terrible, like,
movie concept, like you're playing as Tao or something,
and you look over the horizon,
you see all of your various cities,
and one city is just ironically getting a little closer.
And then it walks over the horizons.
Yeah, it walks over the horizon.
Yeah, it walks over the horizon.
You're like, oh, my God.
The Titans just blot out the sun.
So Titan's size, they stand between 15 to 60 meters tall,
but since we're American and we use imperial measurements.
I was going to say, can you give me that in freedom units?
It's about 50 to 196 feet tall,
which I think the Warhound is around 50.
So the Warhound's about a five-story building.
and then up to 196.
However, the emperor class titans,
which are that one that shy post
of the giant gold son of a bitch.
Yep, the city, the walking city with guns.
Those can stand up to 150 meters,
which are nearly 500 feet.
Like, it is a moving skyscraper.
All the titan, like,
instead of houses, nighthouses,
they have their little legions, Titan legions.
And they're always like legio something, legio this, legio that.
But despite that all, they all, to an extent, serve a division of the adeptus mechanicus,
known as the collegia titanica, also known as the Adeptus Titanicus, also known as the
Legio Titanicus.
Just all these words mean the same, basically.
Wow.
So to reiterate a little bit on the timeline of 40K, because I get this wrong sometimes, you have
way back when the old empire of man.
This is like from now to X time frame
where you just started colonizing worlds.
You got Mars, was one of the first ones.
You colonized Mars.
You start colonizing other worlds in the solar system.
Really slowly, but this is like 500 years from now kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Then you moved into the age of technology,
which is also referred to.
who has the dark age of technology,
depending on who you're asking,
or what time frame you're asking.
This is up to, I believe,
the 25th or 26th millennium
when invention was like full stop,
high class sci-fi.
In, like, techno-arcana,
insanity levels of technology.
Like, this is where they built all the STCs.
This is where, like, all of the,
oh my God, the humans rival the L-DAR
in terms of tech and are
punching close to the necrons.
So this was peak
humanity. This was like humanity at
its finest where if like nothing bad
happened, they probably would have just
ruled the galaxy. Pretty much.
The only competition they had were the
Eldar. So regardless
from here, a couple of things
happened and the fall of humanity
kind of collapsed. Now,
this is mainly known as
the age of strife.
And there are a couple
factors to this. The human
psychers starting popping up
is one assumption and that's when it caused a lot
of issues. There was the gigantic
galaxy wide warp storm
that shut off fashion
light travel across the board
which was caused by the birth
of Slanesh. There
was the idea of the invasion
of multiple Xenospecies
attacking said
cut off areas. But the biggest
of the mall, actually I guess I would say
that Slash is the biggest of the mall. But the other
biggest of the mall is the men of iron
revolting against humanity
and murdering all of us.
Hence AI bad. Yeah,
yeah, that's a good reason to
outlaw AI. Yeah.
When something like that happens and it almost destroys
your entire race and plunges you back
into the dark ages almost. Yeah, I think that's a good
idea. Yeah. So this was
the age of strife and
what happened after that was Old Knight,
which was kind of the concept of
the techno-barbarians
taking over the planets and that kind of like,
This is when the Titans were created
Because as we remember the admec were
In order to survive on the horrible radiation-strewn world that Mars had become
They needed people who knew how to operate their machines
And those that did who had the knowledge to do so became revered as deities
Not deities but revered as priests
And that's why they believe in tech
So they built the triad Ferum morgulus which were the
first three Titan legions raised by the Collegio-Titanica and were sent out to fuck up all of the
techno-barbarians and other cults that were alive on Mars that were not serving the machine
god and his god machines.
That must have been some serious overkill for like techno-barbarians to be trying to fight.
I mean, I'm sure it was like an early-age titan, so maybe it wasn't, you know, as crazy.
as the ones they make now, but
boy, good luck
techno barbarians.
That must have been a slaughter.
An absolute just annihilation.
Well, techno barbarians
are sometimes a bit
confused in thinking
that they're all like Mad Max savages.
They're not.
You have to imagine them
maybe a little bit of Mad Max savagery,
but they're also, they still have
the remains of tech from the golden age
of humanity.
the age of technology.
So there's a little bit of a, of like,
they may not know how to use it well,
but what's that old, that old, yeah, like,
what's that old saying?
Someone said it's like,
Eldar might think of humans as primitives,
but even you'd be scared if a silverback gorilla
wearing full plate waving a shotgun around
blew through your wall.
That's fair.
That's fair.
They see that as a space marine.
Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
So despite that all,
You may not know how to use it properly, but if someone can pull the trigger on a gun that deatomizes you, well, shit.
Well, shit, yeah.
It doesn't matter if they know how to operate it or how to make it, you know, pulling the triggers.
It gets the job done.
Now, of course, in the world of religion, they'd never kill each other over different beliefs, right?
That's never happened.
Oh, no.
In our history, that would never happen.
What a silly idea.
Completely ridiculous.
Oh, yeah, I get this ridiculous.
And the ex-mechanicus at the time,
cult mechanicus,
naturally started killing each other a little bit over this.
Once the Teddo Barbarians were gone,
they used these Titans a bit for civil wars and the like
because they had different belief systems.
Sure.
You know, the usual kind of crap.
But eventually came a certain man.
You may know him.
He's big. He's gold.
They create the Treaty of Mars with the Emperor,
and then the emperor is like, yeah, you want to take your god machines and go out and kill other things and take those worlds over and create forge worlds that are entirely made to building more god machines.
The ad mech are like, maybe.
Maybe. I would think the ad mec would jump at that chance.
I mean, you know, they'd be like, hooray, long live the emperor, hooray.
Let's go kill, pillage, make forge worlds and make more death machines.
I mean, you know, in the classic of deathist ridiculous fashion, we're paraphrasing it quite a lot.
And treaties of planets are long arduous processes.
But, I mean, they certainly signed it, didn't they?
Yeah, they sure did.
Yep.
So the Treaty of Mars is there.
The Emperor's Great Crusade continues.
And therefore, the Titans become a major and main fighting force for it.
In fact, Titans are a substantial part of the Horace Hector.
Heresy.
They are utilized a shitload in the Horace heresy.
A shit load.
Because you had all the, like the Mechanicus turning traitor against the Emperor that would
serve chaos.
And then you had all the ones that were, that didn't.
And then you had the Civil War on Mars that occurred.
And it was just a whole thing.
Let's try.
I guess there would be Chaos Titans from like the Dark Mechanicum, wouldn't there?
I mean, hell.
Even in the Horace Heresy trailer that we saw
where you could see a ton of Titans
just walking around the place.
There, you can see the Titans,
they walk around in the skyline and stuff
and they are just huge.
I don't remember watching this trailer.
You haven't seen this trailer?
I don't think I've seen this trailer.
But there they are, and they look great.
D.K. has not seen the fucking Horacee trailer
with the goddamn...
What?
All right, so continuing on, we have, shy, don't beat.
Shy, you just, shi, she's sassing us with her clash to get on with it thing.
For your information, I am getting to the Princeps part.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, shy.
Let him do his job, shy.
I'm getting to the part with the people who pilot the Titan.
You said yourself, we'll talk less about the Titans today anyway.
That's true.
So, Titans.
The main crew of Titans, the main officer of a Titan crew, is known as a Princeps.
You may remember him a little bit from both the Betrayer Book,
but you also might remember them carving him out of a Titan in the Nightlord's trilogy.
Also, brutal Cunnan, because that's Princess.
No.
Oh, yes, they named the Squig Princess, because they misspull Princess.
Because he couldn't read Princept, yeah.
Princess.
Yes.
So that's a weird human name for a, for a gargant princess.
You should, you should be named after what you just ate.
Princess.
That's so, that was really fun.
It was really smart.
Yeah.
Anyway, the total command of the Titan is via the precepts and is via the mind impulse unit.
It is a not really well understood device because admec, but it allows the mind and body of
the precepts to control the titan like it is their own flesh um so it is the kind of thing where
if they feel like they're moving their arm to the side they feel like they're moving their giant
guns to the side they're adjusting leaning forward leaning backwards the whole the whole thing
how how does one become a precept exactly i mean because i'm i'm assuming it's not just something
you're born into uh i'm assuming you have to have like an actual special link with the machine
and I'm assuming not everybody has this special link with the machine, right?
Well, of course, you are born into it if you are a princess.
Well done.
Thank you.
So the main thing for our precepts is so in order to undergo your link with the titan,
you need to have some kind of input device put into your body, right?
Which, you know, there's a million device ports for people in 40K.
The device is inputted either in three ways, either the neck and the skull.
It is lined entirely along their spine or they are using like an amniotic tank.
Because you need to bind your mind to the Titan.
Yeah.
Right.
Which breaking down the Titan's machine spirit and binding the two together is a ludicrously difficult task.
Yeah, it doesn't sound easy.
It requires substantial levels of.
willpower in order to properly do it.
And so because of that, in order to become a precepts, you will go through a
academical thing, like the Collegia-Titanica.
It's the Collegia-Titanica Academies or academics, whatever.
It's a Titan College.
Yeah, it's Titan College.
Or you can advance to your rank as a preencepts by originally being a moderati or going
as a moderatus and then you know
just ranking your way up through it
because the idea
is that in order to have
that level
of willpower to
break down and
control the machine spirit of a
goddamn Titan
is like you need to be
mind and soul
strong you need to be like superhuman
yeah the idea is that
only one in 10 million
people meet the criteria to become a
preencepts and fewer than
that will even begin the training
and so
basically
like if you lose a
precepts it's like
you will go get him back
it is a genuine like save
private Ryan god damn it
saving private titan
because they're so rare you can't afford to lose it
because it's like you lose that
precept and you've essentially lost the titan because who else
is going to pilot it because these things are so
fucking rare. Yeah, and not only that, you have to find a new precepts to pilot it,
and the time it takes to properly meld yourself with the Titan is so long. That Titan is out
of commission without that singular pilot for God knows how long. Yeah. So would that
would that make it where it's like, uh, you don't send out a Titan unless you really need to
send out a Titan? Because like there's just too much risk involved.
Because if you do lose that preencept, it's like, what a waste.
Well, not quite.
Also, Shai wants to make a funny thing.
It says, the primary test for becoming a preincepts is actually one of the easiest and safest thing in 40K.
You go to Admec, they test you, and you're out there's just tell you to fuck off.
It's true.
Before the binding.
Yeah.
Before, like, the binding to the machine part, of course.
The binding part sucks, but the actual testing to see if you're a preencept, very safe.
But no, they like sending Titans out quite a lot.
Like I said, Horace Harris used Titans like mad.
They use Titans like crazy.
And if they can bring out a Titan for it, I mean, sure, if you,
classic military industrial complex thing,
if you don't need to use the resources, then don't use the resources.
Yeah.
But it's not like, I wouldn't say a Titan is like a last case scenario type thing at all.
because one of those things
can just lay waste
like companies of tanks
with its gun
that's just go
yeah that's true
so in a sense
it might be argued
that using the Titan
earlier is better
because then you won't end up
dealing or having as many
overall losses
because you brought out
the gigantic fucking meck
true its power is so overwhelming
that it's better to use it
you know
at the start
and not get to the point
where you could potentially lose the Titan.
There's only the slight problem, though, is that if you're deploying a Titan,
like the thing you're sending it to kill is gone.
You know, if you're trying to retake, say, a factory or a city,
you're not bringing a Titan.
Yeah, because it's going to destroy the thing.
It's just going to scorched earth it, and you're never going to recover it.
Well, you'll recover it, but it'll be ash and dust and rubble.
I mean, there was the part in the Nightlord's book
when it was loading up its plasma gum,
and it was sucking in the air from everywhere around.
around it to heat it up.
And like, if you're just a regular person next to it,
you're just going to get third-degree blisters and burns across your entire body.
Just by it not even, not even firing the gun.
Just charging the gun.
Damn.
Yeah.
It's, that's a whole, that's a whole side note.
But, yeah, so there are some pretty nuts weapons that the Titans carry.
So, yeah, if you want to take back a factory, you send in the guard or.
Yeah.
Some various of what that.
Maybe some spice marines or maybe you send in some rejects in this cool game called Dark Tide, you know?
Who knows?
Hey, that is a fun game.
It is?
A Titan can't take back a Hive City without destroying the goddamn Hive City, you know?
Unless you want that Hive City destroyed.
Yeah, you don't send in the Titan.
So, linking to the Titan, though, is extraordinarily strenuous and will often cause a lot of problems to
the Princeps, which is why they are so
very stoic and strong.
If they are, they might, they might end
of being broken by the Titan,
becoming completely overwhelmed
by them, and they just, they just
go crazy. Oh, no,
that would be bad. They just lose their minds.
And they just go crazy and berserk and just kill
everything, or?
Maybe, maybe they just go loopy.
There's one that's pretty
fucking dark. They,
can be lost in the machine's mental landscape in the sense of their mind is it's been sucked
like into the AI slash like code or whatever and they're just like stuck in there like freaking the
fuck out and you can't disconnect them or also it'll kill them because their mind is detached from
their body oh no that's that's very bad that is a lot of no moss it is a lot of no moss
Yeah, that's bad.
Oh, I was going to ask, when they're linked up with it and all that, did they, like, if a Titan's arm gets, like, blown off, does the Princep feel that?
Does it feel like their arm got blown off, or is it not that serious of a link?
Yes.
Like, oh, they got the pain link, too?
They got the whole link.
They move it like their body, and they will feel it like their body.
Oh, so if it's getting, like, pelted with bullets and stuff, they feel it?
I mean, you know, a bolter show probably feels like a poke.
Yeah, but they feel everything.
Yes, very often if the Titan is destroyed, the Princeps dies.
The mental link will just kill him.
Kill him, yeah.
Which is why in the trilogy they are able to knock the Titan down,
and then they carve out the amniotic fluid tank for the Princeps,
because they didn't blow up the reactor of the Titan.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was crushed and fell.
Yeah.
That also goes along with the crew a little bit, though.
Because sometimes, like, also the human itself, the precepts, being attached to the Titan is incredibly addicting.
And even though it's a huge strain on their mind, living a normal human life will sometimes become genuinely intolerable.
Because it's just, it's not the same as controlling a building with guns.
It's fair.
which will then increase their descent to madness a bit more
because they don't like their normal thing
and they want to get back in the Titans.
Some are permanently installed in their Titans.
This happens to chaos a lot.
Chaos will very often have them just like bleed it into their Titan,
blended in like the walls of the screaming gallery kind of thing
because A.
So they just never come up.
Oh my God.
Chaos.
Oh, my God.
God, that's horrific.
He's controlling it all right.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, well, his mind is just in the machine, so like, he probably doesn't care what his body looks like, right?
Because he's just in there.
So I guess it looks grim, but he's probably alright, mentally anyway.
Well, not mentally, because he's still chaos, but.
Eesh.
He is, he's a bit of a, he's a bit of a problem.
Sure.
when you want to be a, I mean, let's just be, let's be real here.
Chaos.
Not always the best, uh, 401Ks, you know?
No, no, not always the best future plan for chaos.
No, mm-hmm.
Um, this is actually one of, oh, go ahead.
Is, is, is the preenps the same for every kind of Titan?
Like, because the Imperator or the Emperor-class Titan is so much bigger.
It, does, do the preinceps work the exact same way for that, too?
I'm assuming that the large of the titan, the more mentally strong you'll need to be,
which makes a lot of sense, you know, because they mentioned when a moderata might get promoted
to becoming a princeps, they will almost always be promoted to becoming a war hound,
the smallest version, precepts, because it is the smallest titan.
I believe there is always one preinceps, but the crew is larger,
which leads into the concept of the moderators.
or the moderati's
Monoradi, whatever.
The extra crew are often
also hooked
into the Titan mentally
and they control
various parts of the Titan
such as, say, one of the
guns or
some like hydraulics,
things like that. It's to help reduce
the strain on the Princeps.
Right. So that they don't go
completely insane. Yeah.
It helps lessen the mental strain.
handling the machine, which is why
Warhounds generally have a three-person
crew, as well as
a tech priest and some servitors managing
the plasma reactor.
And then the larger you become,
the larger and larger the crew
becomes as well.
Naturally. And then, yeah, because you need more people
pulling it off. So you might still move
the titan like its arms, like your
arms and all that, but the guns
and the reloading and the figuring
that whole thing out, it's a crew.
It's like a mental crew thing.
Gotcha.
So you would, if you're the Prince,
you're moving your arm and putting it forward
and there's someone else that's going to be like
firing off the Gatlin gun.
Basically, or like you kind of work together with it.
It's like both of you holding the gun together in a weird way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got you.
I know, it's like if you're walking around
a big suit of armor, you can barely move
and you have a whole bunch of people around you
lifting your arms up and legs around when you need to.
Just to help a tad.
Yeah, gotcha.
It's an interesting way that the,
the crew works and obviously because of that the preincepts uh they're they're very very very um
rare for the sat reason but a preiceps is like i feel like a preiceps would live a pretty good life
outside of the titan besides the possible mental anguish and issues it goes along with that
i i imagine he might even have a pacific rim level shit where he's like a celebrity oh yeah i i i
I would not doubt that at all
if Princeps were looked on as like
celebrities and just like
yeah
very very high class, very
spoiled, I don't know say spoiled but
they live the good life considering how rare
they are and how much they bring to the table
so yeah. So long as they're able
to
so long as they're able to
handle that
that level of
mental anguish.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, because I mean, piloting, if you are strong enough to pilot a god machine in 40K,
you most likely are going to be given a pretty good amount of luxury for this.
I mean, the starities, the astardies, despite the horrible things that happen to them,
they have a pretty good job, you know?
Yeah.
Like being a Spice Marine.
Spice Marine.
is really like
you get a lot of good stuff
you're revered as a hero
life seems good
yeah when you're when you're not
fighting chaos
yeah I mean you're not living life
as a planetary governor constantly banging hoars
and drinking wine and shit
what's true true
true but you know you're a hero
you serve the god emperor
you know
so which one do you think is more highly revered
a prince sceptor of space
Marine.
Gotta be a precept.
Oh,
oh,
a precepts,
yeah.
Yo,
yeah,
a preencepts,
100%
because a
warlord titan
and it's
in a proper
two moderati crew
can just rip
apart of space
Marines of need be.
Like,
they stepped on
fucking Angron.
That's a primark.
Yeah,
that's true.
That's true.
I mean,
they did kill him,
but then they
almost.
Didn't they shoot
Lorgar with like
the plasma gun too?
Twice.
Yeah,
twice.
And he's
Lived, which I take issue to that slightly.
Lorgar should be fucking dead.
Dead.
Imagine on the tabletop, right?
Just goes burr.
Yeah, so like, yeah, a preencepts is, it's weird because a princess for better or worse,
it is just a guy.
Like, he is just a regular human with a couple things in his body.
with some studs in the back of his head.
Yeah, or he or she, yeah, either.
But point being, it's just human person
that has some ports in the back of their head
or their spine or whatever that kind of thing is.
And so long as they're not fully entombed in their Titan,
they're not some superhuman, like, gigantic person.
They're just a really goddamn good pilot.
Yeah, and very mentally stable.
Hopefully, they're very very.
mentally sound and
I always wonder
because sometimes they say that
Princeps will be affected a bit by
the Titan, kind of like
I read the name of that chair
that they use to link you to a knight
but like the old users
of the knight will kind of feed
its way into your head.
I feel they have a similar
thing where the
personality of the Princeps
is often altered a little bit
by the Titan and the Titans
power. So like
Warhound Titans, for example,
are, uh, there was that kind of
kind of fast and like little hunting packs.
So they can be kind of loners and be a little bit quiet to people, but like
larger titans are a bit more stoic, strong, a bit more, uh, friendly, so to speak.
Yeah, that would make sense that the, uh, it would affect the pilot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so change their, uh, you know, change them and make them act like that.
Yeah.
often warhound class titans too they generally hunt in packs of like three or more um which is horrifying to think
that the three war house just stalking the battlefields yeah it was going like we're weren't we're
it's awful yep get wrecked ripping ripping things up um they did just come out with a new titan too
called the war master titan which we'll talk about next episode of course but um there's like various
the style of them and like the amount of crew that run them obviously a varying high uh size is what i'm
looking for size of what it is it's uh it's fascinating because piloting a titan is such an
important job but it's it's a good job and it's a good job if you can do it yeah and not many people
can no is it is it as difficult to be one of the crew because obviously
super difficult to be a
preencept, but like to be a part
of the Titan crew, is
that as rare?
No, no. Being a
moderatia is not, I mean,
it's still pretty cool.
But, you know, take it as A-list
and C-list celebrities we'll go with.
Right. Okay.
Because, you know, for every war hound,
there's probably minimum two
moderatae, but the larger you
go, there's generally more and more and
more, but there's still only ever
one, Princep's.
True, true.
Princess.
I said Titan AI is very animalistic
and warlike, and
Princeps need to keep it in check.
In fact, Titans behave like
animals when not under-controlled
precepts. They stir, roar, and
move around impatiently when in cargo
holds on the way to war.
Oh.
Especially warhounds, I imagine.
Because they kind of look like dogs.
They look like hunting dogs.
Mm-hmm. The war hounds.
I didn't realize that
the Titans, like, would move around and just kind of, like,
twitch a little bit like an animal in a cage when they were, like, being transported.
I just figured, you turn the damn thing off, it's not moving.
It's done.
I didn't realize it would just kind of...
When it's just kind of being loaded into a cargo bay.
That's creepy.
I'm still having a hard time figuring out the whole machine spirit thing in 40K.
because
I must say it's AI right
it is AI right
but it's that's so heretical
it is
and that's ad-neck stuff so it's like
why would
but it's not been confirmed to be AI
I don't think
like I don't think anywhere in the lore
do they specifically state
a machine spirit
is its leftover AI
that has grown sentience,
a very mild, very light sentience.
Because there have been stories
that of like, yeah,
the crew of like a land raider dies
and the land raider just keeps skulking the battlefield
looking for targets.
But it's just AI that wired to be limited in its function
unless connected to a human,
that I'm assuming the admec do not realize is A.
They assume it's something involving the machine spirit.
Yeah.
They think it's the machine spirit, but really it's just like an AI with limited functions.
Of course, it's canon for AI to be confused, for Adamatic to make it more confusing.
Good old man, neck.
Where are we saying something about them being just a slight bit hypocritical sometimes?
Oh, God, they're so hypocritical.
Just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
They, they're, but they're the ones who run the Titans and, you know, they're, they're, they're, but they're the ones who run the Titans and, you
You know what?
When the emperor, if the, Mars did not have these titans,
I think the emperor would probably try to wipe out them
because, you know, religious praise people.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
But, you know, the emperor.
And they're like, they have, they provide so much weaponry and titans and all that stuff that, like, you can't.
You can't.
They're too valuable.
I mean, the emperor is a fedora tipping atheist.
That's his whole schick.
but he brought in the cult,
the genuine cult mechanicist into his army
because wow, they make great machines
and also I think I might need them
and also I should probably not fight them.
Because it would hurt.
Like, I think we talked about this, right?
Like, he probably could have wiped them out
but the amount of losses that he'd sustain was just too astronomical.
So it's like, um, treaty, let's fight together.
Let's not be enemies.
And also, like, why wouldn't you try to befriend the people who are making skyscraper-sized robots
that you can then use your own advantage to murder other aliens and take their planets?
Yeah, definitely a woman to trade with them.
I'm sorry, not murder other aliens and take their planets.
reclaim the lost planets of humanity.
Ah, yes, yes.
We're just reclaiming it.
That's why we need to commit genocide on these years.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
They took what was rightfully ours,
so we have to, you know, reclaim.
The one point of contention I know of
is the creation of the Titan.
Obviously, they're created in large forge worlds
and they have all the different Titan, you know,
Riza, Lucius, Mars, etc.
But there's this back and forth concept
of whether or not Titans are built using STCs
from the Dark Age technology.
I remember the Wiki said something about
they are not built using STCs,
but then I think
it probably maybe it was Luton.
It was either Luton or someone else was like,
I don't think that's right.
I'm pretty sure they are built with STCs
because ADMEC and not doing that's big old heresy
and it was basically like,
like proof, source, and then the,
and then you have the clip of Edison or Armstrong.
My source is that I made it the fuck up.
So, so not really sure how they're made,
maybe STCs, maybe not.
I bet they're SDCs.
STCs.
It is ADMEX, so you would think that there's probably an SDC for it.
I would be surprised.
Okay, comment section, you know what to do.
Yeah.
And that is about what I've got Titan-wise for this episode.
The specifics of the Titans will obviously be in the next episode because that's where we're going to Kiryoth him.
Yay, Kyriev.
But in terms of, just for a slight second before I go for the tabletop thing, it's a little funny.
Titans are fieldable on the tabletop.
The smallest titan, the Warhound Titan, is 2,000.
points, which is the cost
of an entire game.
There are some people
who go to normal 40K
and they bring one singular
Titan.
How do they do?
They always lose terribly because you
don't have enough units.
It's one Titan. Yeah, I mean,
it's really tanky, but you could
still kill the thing.
Yeah.
You know, the models
are of course enormous.
No kidding.
But the Reaver Titan is 3,000.
points. Warbringer
Nemesis Titan is 3,800
and the Lord
Titan is 5,500
points and has a total
of 120
health, which
a Lehman Rust Tank has
13.
Do
people do
massive
like night Titan
games on the tabletop where they're just like, yeah,
we're going to do like, I don't
50,000 point games and just bring like massive amounts of like Titans and stuff like that?
There's two.
There is, one is the Titanic's game, which is playing with nothing but Titans.
And they're like really small models, like the size of regular minis.
Oh, yeah, I've seen those.
Yeah, that's like another version of the game.
But there are things called Apocalypse games, which are known for being like 50,
K points both sides.
The games that take genuine weekends
to play.
But it's about spectacle.
It's about making a board
the size of a small room and then just
moving up your shit. You can use your
Titans and your and your
night. Well, I guess you wouldn't have to do nights
but you're giant Titans
and stuff. That's got to be a fun thing to watch.
Yeah. It's
like a Titan is horrendously
expensive in the thousands of dollars
and even
GW gives you a certificate
for being like, thanks, dude.
Certificate of authenticity for your Titan.
Damn.
I said they're $2,000 to buy.
That's probably a small one too.
Damn.
Yeah, they're pretty ridiculous.
Do they sell the Cathedral Titans anywhere?
Is that, like, they can't actually...
No.
GW. doesn't actually have that, right?
No, they do not have Emperor-class Titans.
Okay.
$10,000
mini
Yeah
Those are
Those are rare enough
In the actual
Fucking lore
And I doubt that
They would be around
And they don't have that stuff
Yeah
Yeah fair
Fair
But yeah
Besides that
That's the Titan stuff
I've got
They are
They're the Titans
They're fucking gigantic
We'll talk more
About the weapons
And the types
With Kyrioth
next week
And yeah, yeah, it is, it's a lot.
I must admit, I don't much like the look of the Titan minis, minis, huh?
Much like the look of the Titans, I think they look bad.
I think they could do with a better, whatever that head unit is just looks too,
I don't want to say derpy, because it's not derpy, but it's just, I don't know,
something about it just doesn't look right.
Yeah, shy, I was going to say, I like the new one.
The newest one, I think, looks great.
Oh, yeah, that looks fantastic.
Also, I think you're probably referring to the war hound one.
It's because it looks like a dog.
Like, you even has the noses there on the front.
If you look at the one that has a fiery left arm.
Yeah, maybe.
There's the other, there's the Reaver as well.
They're really like a squish-stooey-Griffin-head.
I don't like that one either.
Squish-stooey-griffin.
Yeah, that's the other.
one I was looking at. I couldn't
think of how to describe it, but as soon as you said that,
I was like, yep, that's the one.
Yep. The warlord,
the big one on the right, looks like an actual
knighthead, and the newest one, I think,
look really, really good. Yeah, the actual
nightheads look so great. Like, they should just
use that for everything. Yeah,
that was a lot more fun. Oh, yeah.
Anyway, next week, we will have
Kuriath on for the next big episode.
Run around more Titan-based
things. Thanks everyone
for watching.
And wow, I will be see you next time
Yeah, I guess we'll see you next time
But um, boom, holy shit
Damn, a normal ending
