Adeptus Ridiculous - Interview with Richard Reed, Necron & Tomb King voice actor extraordinaire

Episode Date: February 13, 2022

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Cool. D.K. Yes. Someone's in our walls. Oh no. Who did we put in the walls this time? I don't know. Let's listen closely and see if we can hear them No, I don't know say something Richard I don't know how it's all right? I don't know how that goes Hello, my name is Richard his name is Richard Richard We have a guest today. We have an interview today. Let's let's go Let's go Richard Reed current current voice of a many of Necron for

the people who watch our stuff, but also, I'm sure there's much, much other audio work in the past, but if we say the audiobook reader of Twice Dead King and Infinite Divine, I think that's where our fans will kind of click as to this possible. Are you doing, Richard? I'm doing very well, thank you. Yeah. How are you two? Well, you know, it's 9 a.m., so you already commented about that before the episode. Oh, yeah, sorry, yes, so we, yes, all right, yes, but I've already said how I was, so you're asking me twice as well. But the viewers don't know how you're like. They don't know, man. I do really well. Thank you for having me on this. Excellent. All right. Now we're on the same page.

I find it hilarious that when you first came in, he was like, oh yeah, it's like 5 a.m. for me, but boy, do I feel bad for you guys having to wake up at 8 a.m. And it's like, wait a minute. It's 5 p.m. Oh, see, okay, look, I'm a dumb American that doesn't really know the times very well. So, yeah. Yeah. I'm, yeah. Did you not hear the, did you not hear the British accent there, DK? Well, yeah, but I don't know what the actual time zones are, like, because I'm stupid. To be 5 a.m. might have to be in sort of the Pacific Ocean or something right now, like streaming live. Yeah, in like Hawaii or something.

I hear the Pacific Ocean is lovely this time. I'm sure, yeah. You have about 15 minutes away from it. I wouldn't mind being in Hawaii right now. You lived in Hawaii for like five years. Yeah, and it's great. It's wonderful. You can't afford to live there, though.

It's so expensive. No. Yeah. Wait, Richard, do you live in... Yeah, sorry. Do you live in London? I live kind of just outside London, really. Okay.

I've lived all over the place in the UK. I used to live in Yorkshire, but now I'm originally from a county called Essex, which is just outside London. I'm glad you pronounced it as Yorkshire, so I no longer have to say Yorkshire. And now I know how to properly pronounce it. Excellent. And Worcestershire, you guys always get that wrong. Oh, yes, Worcestershire, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Oh, what, no, Worcester sauce?

No, no Worcester. Yeah, yeah. Warchester shots. Hey, dude, dude, do you do like voice impressions or something? That was really good. Yeah, that's a good accent. How'd you do that? Yeah, maybe I've got a, you know, a sort of a career in it, maybe.

Yeah, you should consider it, you know? If you haven't already, consider going into like voice work, dude. Really spot on. Um, actually, that's, that's a sort of. That's a great Dean Kamen right there. Richard, do you know who Dean Kamen is? I do not, no. He's the inventor of the Segway.

Ah, I was going to say, I was going to say, lovely segue, lovely. Now I can tip my hat to that chap. Tip my hat, oh my lord. I can't sound any more British, could I? I'm stealing that, by the way. You know, I was at LVO. I fought a guy who came from the UK

and he had a bunch of tyrannids and high guard. And I saw on the other side table he had all the hive guard. He's like, yeah, a bit cringe in it. It's just like, oh, perfect. I'm going to have a good game today. Anyway, the dean came in there. I was actually, because we were talking about

different voice work and stuff. I actually wanted to ask, you know, because obviously right now, in our fan base, all the Necron stuff, but where did you kind of get yourself started with that, with like, all the voice work and any kind of that stuff? With Warhammer. either or originally to begin with and Warhammer passed if you'd like okay so um so I originally went to drama school well I've been I've been acting since

I was about seven um and I sort of went to to school and everything and it sort of I was thinking well it was coming towards the end of school uh what do I actually want to do afterwards and I thought well what am I actually good at acting so I went to university and then drama school trained. And then at drama school, I was sort of got in with the radio company, sort of the radio team there. And the director in that sort of department was very kind enough to give me a few audio drama jobs very early on.

And then it sort of evolved from there, you know, as with everything, the ball sorts of, you know, gets rolling a bit more. and we sort of go on from there. But with Warhammer, I think it was, I've always been kind of semi-interested in one, Warhammer.

And I played, what was that MMO back in, oh, like 2008? Was it age of reckoning? Something like that. Maybe, something like that, yeah. In the late first decade, right? Yeah. And I played that for a while at university

and I thought I loved it. But I never, painted the miniatures I've kind of seen them from afar and then it was Total War Warhammer and I saw the trailers for that and I thought oh I want to get on that

that looks really cool so yeah so I kind of dove in from there and I started painting some orcs up and it was it was all the fantasy side

that I've kind of started with because I felt personally I felt 40k was just too deep I was a bit you know daunted by it but which I think is very valid because it's extremely broad and I think the best way is to sort of pick what you like and sort of go in from there but but yeah then I sort of as I said I painted up the miniatures and I thought I want a piece of this action and I was lucky enough to get an audition for the second game. Oh the second total war Warhammer game. Yeah, yeah. Oh shit, you're in that? Yeah, I'm Cetra in that one. Oh shit, I didn't even know that. Wait, Cetra. Uh, how's that,

has that spelled? Cetra. I've never played him. Who is, who's Cetra? So Cetra, ah, sorry, for people who don't know, because he's actually pretty popular. So there's a faction called the Tomb Kings. Oh, he's this fucking dude. What you did this guy? What the fuck? Yeah, he's basically the sort of overlord of the Tomb Kings. He's like the daddy the Tomb Kings. Maybe like

Trazan, I guess. Maybe I don't know. But he's sort of you know, incredibly egotistical and That sounds like him. All right. Yeah, he's psychotic. But he was considered the best

sort of king, if you like, of that time. and then obviously Nagash got his mix on some dark magic and they all became mummified. But yeah, so that's the fantasy side. But yeah, and then I kind of got got in touch with the guys overall who do the books for Games Workshop. And yeah, rest is history. The Black Library, I'm assuming you're referring. That's right, the Black Library, yeah.

Yeah, because I had audio drama experience, I started doing. the audio dramas first and then as you know as things happen it sort of moved on from there and I'd always wanted to do books but at the time I was very new to books and I was a bit daunted by them

but they are they are very long and I can imagine the amount of takes you need to do and considering that it's like a average book's like 11 hours or something I'm a one take wonder darling no no it is yeah I've been called

in one take, excuse me? The man who voices... I'm just gonna sit down for 11 and a half hours and just bang this out. Oh man. The man who voices Trazen called me darling. Hoof, I gotta get a fan. Woo. Yeah.

Did you... Oh, my... Did you woo me on our fucking podcast? He just wooed you, yep. Holy shit. D.K., did you talk to him before this episode? I had nothing to do with this. Did you corrupt him? Mm-mm. This is not me.

I didn't. You're a bastard. So, yeah, so it was just kind of, it just sort of went from there. But, you know, and I, as I said before, I had no real experience with the 40K universe. And it's actually been a really amazing experience to read the books and almost learn as I go along in some ways. And obviously, I do some codex like reading. and on icon and background like sort of loose background

more but just especially with Mephiston I had no idea about really who Mephiston was Oh he's a he's a chat Yeah and then and then I started You know reading them and I was like damn He's actually pretty badass Mephistan

The character Yeah I was like to say The going from From Cetra to the Nekron Seems like a completely natural evolution Considering the kind of The yiny yang of the fantasy and the 40K worlds.

Yeah, in some ways, yeah, Nekron's are basically sci-fi tomb kings. Well, that's just me, my interpretation of it anyway. But, yeah, I mean... You like to do that. They have very similarities.

It makes sense, though, and it makes total sense. Yeah, so that's just, that was kind of almost like a starting block for the Nekron books, and then it obviously went from there. Was, um, because I know we first heard of you

when we were the Infinite and Divine because that was kind of like it was kind of hot off the presses at the time and everyone was very popular yeah super popular everyone like Trazen beforehand but then you know you finally got a really good Necron book that was their new lore

not their old like Terminator lore was that your first Necron role or yes I think it was yeah that was the first one it wasn't your first audiobook though No, no, no, no, no. It was my first necron sort of involvement. And even, I think, I could be wrong, you know, your memory sort of blends things together. But I think that was almost fresh law for me right off the bat because I obviously knew of them, but I didn't know the depths of their sort of law. So I think, yeah, which might explain a lot. I might not. But I think before they'd been obviously sort of like,

I am a necrone, I do this, I do that. And I thought for the first book, for Infinite and Divine especially, you can't do characters, especially these big characters as this sort of monotonous droning, I am a robot voice. It would just be incredibly boring. So I kind of wanted to give them a bit of life. and the story lent itself to that. And so I had this idea that, sorry,

I had this idea that these, the main characters had character to them and the subordinates were a bit more machine-like, if you will. Yeah. Yeah, which really works well lore-wise too because Necron's biotransference, they get like the much more pristine body and mental faculties if they're like high lords and overlords,

whereas like a lowly warrior's Bipu Bop. Well, that kind of just works in society really. Everybody remembers the sort of rich nobility, if you will, and the normal commoners get lumped in as like these drawings, right? And that's

today and it's always been forever. I mean there's been, there was that fantastic part in Twice Dead King ruin where they were talking about them in the biotransference lines and all the All the peasants were just in like piles on the sides.

They were in sick carts. Yeah. And I mean, it didn't have, you know, it wasn't necessarily subtle, but it didn't have to be. It made its point very clear. Yeah. Yeah. And you can just imagine the sort of quality that they were kind of given. Maybe they were given lesser quality materials during their biotransference anyway.

So which can sort of render their brain activity inert. Who knows? I don't know. I'm just sort of going on my own tangent. Who knows? Guy who literally reads the books. Who knows? I have no idea.

Dude, I just read them. So how does one of these recording sessions go? Like, how much information do they give you? Are they like, yep, here's the book, read it, make the characters as cool or whatever as you want? Because they've got to give you some direction, like, oh, Trayson should sound a little like this, Orkin should sound like this, old tics should do this, and, yeah, like, how's that process go?

I think the good thing The thing that I love about working with GW Games Workshop is they kind of They semi let you do What you want they semi let you interpret because I'm the actor And they allow the actor to interpret the text In any way they want to I mean people have played Mephiston before me

And will do after me Yeah everybody every actor will have their own interpretation of how he sounds so I think in some books he's sort of given a sort of I am a fist on and I was a bit like I'm a fist on sort of thing

so it's really up to interpretation which is I mean with the sessions they obviously give you law if it's a new faction or universe and they give you like a little breakdown but for the most part I mean earlier on They gave you more information and I needed it.

But as time progresses and you get more familiar, I just sort of crack on with it. And I say, you know, I just, you know, write up what I think X sounds like and take it to the directors and they think, yay or nay. Do you have a lot of talk with the author, for example, like Nate Crowley for the twice? Zero. Oh, zero, really? Interesting.

Yeah, I think you very, very rarely have, you know, discussions with the author. Because sometimes, I mean, especially in audio dramas, sometimes having the author there, it would just, I don't, I can't talk to about Warhammer in this respect because I don't know their policy on it. usually when you have an author in the in the room with you it just takes 10 times longer um not like it they kind of over i don't want to say over complicated but like they have a specific vision and if you divert from it even a little bit it maybe gets a little too and that's in no way to criticize the author's work because sure absolutely fantastic work it just sometimes you know instead of you you have to you've got a 12 13 hour book that you've got to crack on with and just to have a sort of um

discussions about the sort of sound of X character versus Y, it would just take ages. So you have to be like, okay, this guy sounds like this. Okay, yeah, that works. Let's go for it. Yeah. And I think it's, and I think also, I think probably mainly, as I say, I don't know.

I don't organize these sorts of things. But I would assume it's mainly just logistics as well. We all live all over the country. Some people live abroad. as well. So it just doesn't really work to have people fly. Although I think for

Realm Slayer we had David in. So yeah, so sometimes they come in for the audio. That's interesting because the because I mean I assume there'd be like a tiny bit where it's like hey Mentep is a cryptic

should he sound old or does he sound different? Like small things like that. I think what happens sometimes as they, the authors, I don't, as I say, again, I don't know, but the authors may or may not give information to the engineers and directors. Yeah. I was going to say, there's probably like directors and engineers that they trust, that they're like, yeah, they kind of know my work and they know how to like, they know what to tell

the people to sound like. And they, I'm sure they have discussions, but as with the authors, but as the actor, I, I don't have, I don't talk to the writers much, if at all. How's, how's, how's, how's, how's, how's, how's, how's, how's work been with COVID? Like, how, that, because that's got to be rough in your industry. Like, I, I, I keep seeing voice acting like, yeah, I had to build my own voice booth because this is just some bullshit and, uh, and make my own little studio and like,

how's, how, how you doing, y'all right? Hum, I'm, I'm really. No, no, it's, it's actually, no, it's, it's, um, to be honest, I had a, uh, uh, a little home setup thing going on before COVID anyway. So for me, it's sort of business as usual. And the thing with the books as well, you can go into studios or you can do record from home. They're so flexible.

I mean, so I've recorded a couple from home and mostly in studios. So in terms of maybe more people entering the voiceover realm, the industry. Yeah, much, probably a bit more. competitive. But overall, you know, it seems to be pretty much okay. Okay. Good.

I was kind of curious about that too, because I heard like a lot of people had to put down exorbit amounts of money to get a home studio set up properly. Normally people who live in like L.A. or something, they just travel to easy studio. Well, a lot of people have, but I mean, I wasn't one of them.

I'd already done it. I kind of thought that same thing when lockdown happened. I was like, damn, my work is not compromised in any way. But shit, I kind of wanted a day off. I literally nothing has changed now. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's been, I think a lot of industries are struggling, perhaps, or finding ways to go around enabling sort of home recordings.

But I think for the most part, for me, you know, it's I just do the project either way or anyway okay it's been good it's been fine yeah yeah it's been fine

good good good because that's that's always a question I think what we both had is like how does that because for our industry nothing fucking changes nothing right if you're like are you okay during COVID I'm like it's literally the exact same

we just got to keep isolated but I think yeah I think I'm in the similar position as you as you guys maybe because you know, it's business as normal but the parameters are slightly different

and obviously I don't know I've sensed like there's been well there's obviously a lot of tension but also maybe more flexibility than before in some areas as well

people are a bit more sort of as well flexible I guess yeah kind of have to become more flexible too a lot of places have realized they don't need employees

in every single day and the volume of like, hey, this meeting could have been an email, I think has finally been realized a little bit more. I think the important, sorry, I was just saying, I think the important thing is, though, that obviously people are still employed, you know? Yes.

Because I wouldn't want, you know, people, bosses or whatever, to think, well, we've gone without this, so why don't we just get rid of it entirely? A lot of people out here in America are are making their damn goal to not be employed anymore and honestly

I heard about that. Yeah good. Show that employer who's boss you know. I Chipotle will piss on your on your grave they could so honestly I'm fine with it. Oh really? Oh okay. Well you know

there goes the Chipotle sponsorship. Yeah there there you know just God damn it coming right up. Corporate America you know that whole thing you know a lot of the whole anti work movement is kind of rising up a bit and i think covid really kind of kind of nailed that that last nail in the coffin like wow these people do not give a shit about you yeah you're right actually there has been a sort of whereas these sort of billionaires perhaps have gone onto the radar slightly there's a lot

more criticism of them now and people just straight up leaving these you know well as you say these jobs i didn't know chipoli was that bad though oh no i just used chapoli as an example like like Like a common restaurant, McDonald's, whatever the hell. Yeah, though, I mean, like, remember that when COVID first hit, and like every celebrity in the world was like, we're all in this together as they're live streaming from like their 40-mill house in LA Hills. And I'm like, oh, my God. So speaking of rich assholes, let's talk necrons.

Let's go. Let's go. So, I mean, obviously, me and D.K. here, we're massive fucking necrone fans. Necron supremacy, yeah. Yeah, we honestly think that the lore for them has been handled probably the best out of any of the factions lately. Because they had their little redux going from beep-boop to nobles. And then the twice dead series really add even more to that with like the idea that the nobles are, they're not unthinking, unfeeling robots.

They are people trapped in robot body kind of concepts. Yeah. Right. Yes, of course. Yeah. Well, they have a loose soul, I guess. Well, they do, they don't, don't they? I guess they literally don't have a soul, but they, they have, like, the motion still there that's kind of, like, creeping on them. Yeah, that disc frack is horrifying, but... Oh, my God.

We haven't finished rain yet, so we'll be careful on that one, but... Yeah, the I have no mouth and I'm a scream kind of, kind of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So considering that you did not in the gash crap Et cetera How dare you how dare you I I don't do the fantasy thing well I don't do the fantasy thing Nagash is such as absolute peak enemy

It cannot ever stick Wow Oh oh oh oh oh Ficked up Bricky yeah I am I am posting cringe I apologize Though uh actually Okay side moat Which faction in fantasy is the bone IRS that takes your bones? Oh, I think it's Catacross.

Bone reapers. Okay. I was told about the bone IRS a bit ago, and I kind of want to make some bone IRS. I only know the haunts from fantasy, so I can't really. I can't help you. I guess it's a bunch of skeletons that come to a town. They're like, you owe us this many bones. And if you say no, they're like, we're going to take your bones.

I think there was this loose law thing where the ogles were sort of getting bones for them. Because obviously they eat loads. And then they were like, uh, uh, uh, not anymore. And they sort of had an uprising. And then, yeah, a fight, I think. I could, I could have made, I might have just made that up right now. It sounds convincing. We don't do, we don't do Sigmar.

We believe you. The comments might act The comments might actually But who reads those right? Yeah So that was actually the question is You know obviously for for Warhammer stuff You know you have a natural advantage of being

Of being a British man Because that's a very large majority of the voice acting But it helps you did The this Egyptian kind of accent a lot now How did you How did you get that going? Well, I am not obviously Egyptian in any way, and I didn't want to make a kind of an attempt at that in any particular way. But what I wanted, because there's obviously a kind of almost Egyptian-ish iconography with the Necrons.

I kind of just wanted to give an accent that was different pretty much. kind of loose Yeah very very loose sort of Mediterranean maybe Like it could It could be anywhere Like I wasn't Because they're not from

Greece They're not from Egypt They're not from You know The stars They're in You know It's a made up sort of

Well Universe really But I just Obviously with There's a lot of space marines I'm a space marine And all that sort of thing And

And I just I didn't want to kind of, hello, I'm a necron. It was just, and that's been done before quite a lot of times. And with this sort of new take on it, I wanted to give it a different flavor. And just to have a bit more, you know, interesting. It needs more pizzazz than an ultramarine. I would agree.

And also, as I said before, sorry, as is before, there were, you know, necrons have been like, I am a Necron and it's just It's just a bit It's just a bit boring really Just on the nose too Yeah yeah Yeah and I wanted to give it more Character and flavour really

Yeah And it has like this air of nobility to it That they kind of need like Especially like the name of Necron characters Like they need that like Differential nobility Air to them Yeah

It has this sense of rigality Unless you're fucking Oh God what that hell is his name. Bricky messing up names again. Dude, the Necron names are impossible, okay? They all end in heck.

What's the hammer dude who always speaks in the third person? Oh, Zoltanek. Zoltanek. Unless you're Zoltanek. He's always, where he has nobility, but he sounds kind of like a dufous. Or Neth, who sounds like he's just one tick away from a

screen of death. Yeah. It's the Xbox 360 Red Ring. That's what happens on his, like, core flux when he dies. It just like goes, beep, beep, beep. That's what I like doing about, like, what's what I love about these books as well? You,

you sort of, you, you really become attached to certain characters and I, I genuinely felt kind of a bit sad after the end of the, the second, I won't give anything away, but I just felt, I've just felt sad that it was over. I had a really good time, and

it's very like, when I, I struggle sometimes to remember back on on points in the books because when I read them, I read them very much in the moment and it's almost like a sort of a dream, if you will, and bits are picked out here and there. But sometimes,

you know, you give it very much all in the moment. And as I said, when the last one sort of wrapped up, I was like, oh, that's a hot man. On another one.

Yeah, yeah. Come on, we're, uh, I'm, I'm about a, I think halfway through, they're currently fucking around with the Trebushay.

Oh, yeah. Which is quite enjoyable. But I know D.K. is farther than I am currently. A little bit. If I told you where I was specifically, I would spoil a little bit for you, Bricky. Gotcha. I will. I won't, you know.

Well, wait. Though I must, I must admit, a personal favorite character of the book so far is absolutely Lysikor. He's got such a, I don't know what it is about the voice. give him but he sounds like such a conniving dickhead. Like say, gore. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, he is. He is a caniving dick. That's exactly what it is. Well, it's impressive to have the conniving dickness come out in vocals so well, is what I mean. Well, yeah. I don't know what that says about me. Yeah. Excellent. Good job. You're a real dick. You're portray a conniving dick head real well, real

spot on, buddy. Yeah. It's like I didn't even try for that voice though. Uh huh. Yeah. It's my natural voice. You son of a bit. Rich, have you ever V8 orcs in the past? Yeah. Yeah, I've done a couple, yeah. Oh, D.K. No, this is going. We did, I did, I've done a few orcs in audio dramas, and I did a short story.

Ork short story was really fun. We, DK randomly during one of our orc episodes, just fucking threw out a random impression. and for some reason he has a really goddamn good job. It's because I read Brutal Cunnen and I just tried to like mimic the person that did that. And apparently people think it sounds very orcish, but I specifically don't want to do it for you because you're from the UK. And I feel like anybody from the UK is just going to be like, wow, what a tool. We've literally lost all of our Italian fans already, okay, so it doesn't matter.

What a limey bastard this guy is. I won't ever force anybody to do a... I will. That's one of the most cringe things. They say, oh, you're a voice actor. Go on, give us a voice. And you're like, okay. Give us a voice.

That's sweet. Yeah, that's an awesome like that. Yeah, that's a voice in it. Hey, there we go. Yeah, good job, D.K. Thanks. Yay. See, that's what you've got to do.

You've got a warm. up and make them think they're not going to do anything. And then you do a voice. You got to tickle their balls a little bit. That's right. That's right. I have been a professional ball tickler for years now, D.K.,

so I think we're solid. I don't... I'm questioning everything we've ever done for the last year and a half now. What's wrong, D.K.? What are you racist? No, I just... I just don't like you.

We said that earlier. It's like. Yeah. It's like, what's wrong, D.K. You don't want to tick on my balls? What are you anti-Semitic? I just don't like you. Just throws out off, I just, I just hate you. I just really hate you.

There's nothing to do with what you stand for. So, what the fuck are you talking about? Oh, yeah, Cron's and shit. So, I mean, I haven't, obviously, we haven't finished rain yet, but it seems to appear that there's a good chance there will be a third one. I hope so.

Yeah, just from like how people have told me it ends very loosely and can, because the first one ended at a pretty hefty cliffhanger. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. But the second one is very, I've been told it ends also. Not quite as a cliffhanger, but there's still plenty to go. And so I'm curious about the third one, but for the first two twice dead king books that you can tell us so far,

do you have a part that you really particularly enjoyed voice acting? Any particular part where you're like, ah, this part was dope. I like doing this. Well, it's funny. Sometimes when you read a book, when you physically read it in the studio, you think,

oh man, you know, I could have done that bit a little bit better. And so there was that bit where, I think it's Giussiras and Altix. He's using his memory. And that they're sort of sparring. No, they're looking at a line of warriors, a lineup of war.

Warriors. Oh, yeah, way in the beginning, I think. Right at the beginning. And I, as I said, I thought, oh, when I did that chapter, I was like, oh, yeah, it was okay. I could have done that maybe a bit better. I don't know. But when I listened back to it, I thought, oh, that's actually really lovely and

atmospheric. And I think it was the atmosphere that I loved in, in that scene. I could really just picture it in my mind's eye. Anything that I can picture really nicely in my mind's eye is a, is a sort of. sort of a favorite but that's so in that one and obviously there's I don't want to give things away but there's a very touching scene with Jazeera and altics and I think just seeing um sort of the imperium from another perspective is always lovely because you get to see that they're not sort of heroic in some ways they're just as brutal no the twice dead book rain I was telling

when we did our book club of it, it is arguably the most frightening I've ever seen the Imperium. Just like them going through the stars and then it kind of reveals the fleet of ships chasing down the orcs. It's like, oh my God. I think Nate did a short story

as well. And it was all my, I think it's from the perspective, from sort of a crew member of one of these individuals. Yeah, like a penal legion or something. like that. Yeah, and it and it sort of

describes, it's like almost from his first person and it describes the atmosphere of the ship and and it was, it's a really brutal sort of existence and then when it sort of comes on from a different angle so it's almost like he's so fanatical

that he's like, oh this is the best, you know we're doing a good thing and it's like it's almost like you know that Starship Troopers bit and they land on the planet and his friends just get vaporized by sort of gals like like beams and yeah and it's just the horror

that he can sense so but but well so both sides are equally brutal you know there's no Necrons aren't great people either no exactly aren't any great people in Fortykaya in general so it's just varying

shades of grey really right yeah I mean they they sacrifice their own people to become metal you know soulless beings I wouldn't exactly call them the greatest no they're also they're also really racist running around

like oh the unclean are touching yeah the unclean humans yeah there's that part in the beginning of the first book where he's just like shanking that orc and he's like oh you stupid little race stab stab stab stab stab yeah and then he's sort of they have all these little scarabs that clean their sort of carapaces and things like that

and he was just like they they almost have that sort of they want to vomit when they see flesh and things like that. So, yep. Yeah, you know, I was actually a little, a little disappointed that, well, I don't know, only halfway through rain so far,

but I didn't get any VA work or anything of the, or any quotes from the, like the blood angels or anything in the first book. Because I would have liked to hear a couple, like, heroic for the emperor charges or something, just to kind of like, just like, you know, I know they wouldn't really,

I guess they could translate it or whatever, but it was very much like just an amalgamation force. you know, like it's just a force as opposed to anything else. Well, kind of feels like that's how, like, the Imperium is being portrayed. It's just this massive, like, it's just like this swarm. It doesn't have any real individuality to it, so you don't want to give them a voice because then that paints an individual person where it's really, they're just a fucking swarm of endless, like,

oh, these guys are prehistoric, but there's 30 billion of them. It almost treats them like tyranids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They are parasitic in their own way. Someone had a funny quote where it's like, why do Eldar, you know,

why are they having such a hard time against humans when they see them as such like inferior, you know, inferior being? And it's like, well, for the same reason, you'd be terrified if a silverback gorilla blows through your wall with a shotgun waving it around in full plate armor. Yeah.

Yeah, they can be a little spooky at times. actually that uh I mentioned that that Gisera's part I remember I think I know just talking about the part near the end the uh the the immortals lighting up is like the best part of the whole fucking book it's so good

when you realize what Gisiris was actually doing that whole time and he wasn't just mindlessly cleaning them yeah there's some really darn really darn good parts of that book but it's funny you mentioned the that short story about the Legion guy because

out of curiosity did you ever read slash listen to any of the Night Lord trilogy books? No but that's on my list. I've heard they were very very good. Top it to the, put it to the top of your list, you sign of a bitch. I fucking love those books. Top of the list, yep. Top of the list. There's a great moment in the second

book really early on where there's a character named Marook and he's like one of the factory workers in some imperial piece of crap planet. and they they have this just that really short period of time where he write it's him about him going back

from work with his ears ringing and legs hurting after a 15 hour shift and it's like only seven more years and I can finally buy a ticket off this rock yeah just just that kind of like awful awful living condition of the Imperium and it reminds me of what you mentioned with the Penal Legion kind of

they're a little bit more fanatic well it's it's sort of like anything that has like the blood of the work kind of vibe to it is just really interesting when you are trying to portray these sort of space marines who are, you know,

nightly and regal and, you know, superhuman juxtaposed with the sort of the grime of getting them to that state, do you know what I mean, by funding these ships and everything like that. Their weapons, etc. Yeah, they're very,

it's interesting to see just to the extent they can, um, uh, the extent that the fanaticism, the devotion of like a regular soldier, whereas space marines, despite being so knightly and everything, are also really huge hypocrites. Yeah. Well, welcome to the Imperium, right? Welcome to the Imperium, yeah. That's, that's kind of their motto. We're hypocrites.

Fuck you. I was, uh, I was thinking, I just keep thinking about like, because one of my favorite factions, the sisters of battle. And just the disconnect. Yeah. Like they're just fucking insane. They really are. It's so fun though. It's such insane fanaticals, yeah.

You should check out, um, our martyed lady. I have read that one. Have you listened? Yeah, or listen to it, sorry. Listen to it. Yeah, audio drama. That's, um, that's, if you like Battle Sisters, you know, you'll, I think you'll like that one.

Well, you've, that one, that one started off like a million and a half Celesteing Grafax fans. and you know God bless them. You're doing God's work. So I play Diasis, the sort of evil Pope, if you like. And there's a

scene in that. Oh, you play oh yes. I don't know if Diasis was his name, but the Ecclesiarch. The Ecclesiarch, yeah. Yeah. And there's a scene where there's like an assassination attempt and Celestine basically rescues him. And

sweeps him up and he I love these visions of this sort of horrible like wrinkly skinny like sort of pope just going like flying through the air being saved grabbed him and like flew him

high in the air above like the crowd yeah that's right I remember that that was pretty early on in the book that's right yeah yeah that was fucking funny I try to remember his name like Deceus or whatever it was I remember that because that was actually actually a, that was actually a pretty big development in the, in the lore of the Imperium.

Was that book, or, you know, that story? Because, yeah, I forget his name, but, but yeah, because he was trying to repeal the decree passive. That's right. Yeah, he was trying to get basically his own army that wasn't just Battle Sisters. Yeah, he was trying to do what Doge Van Dyre just tried to do. I love that we've corrupted. you and you can't say Goge Van Dyer. I can't do it anymore, man.

I love it. It's only Doge Van D. Richard, are you familiar with that meme at all? No, I'm not. Oh, thank Christ. For some reason, we kept them turning Gose... Oh.

Yeah, gosh, I got right that time. Gose Van Dyer into a dog. Because they're so close. The name is so close that, you know, it's an easy translation. Yeah, I think he definitely would be into crypto, so... Oh, the character

developments. Gouge Van Dyer would totally be into crypto and NFTs, yeah. NFTs for sure. For the longest time, we were talking about how Doge Van Dyer would just, the Sisters of Battle be forced to fight barefoot. This is for the good of the

Imperium. And now I'm thinking about he's going to start taking pictures and minting them for NFTs. NFT, uh, battle sisters, feetpigs. Yep. Way to go, Gouge. You've ruined the galaxy. What's this CEO of Ubisoft? Gojvah. the fuck.

Jesus Christ. Oh man. DK, did you have any more questions you want to ask her, man? Not off the top of my head, no. Richard, can you call D.K. A sussie baca in a necromba? No, I'm kidding.

Don't worry about it. Really stutter at like Neth, if you could. It's like sussie bucka. My day has been made. My day has been ruins. The duality of man. One person loves being called Sussie Baca, the other one rolls into an early grave. No, I mean, this is a good time.

Thanks so much for coming by. Do you have anything for us that you'd like to ask us? No. No, give me that hell out of here. Never talking you idiots again So you say you're Necron fans But what are the sort of Is it mainly Necron?

Do you have Necron armies? I do I have a Necron army I've got Zerick I got Luminor Zeres I don't have Trayson or Orican Because their models are trash They should do new ones

Definitely I think they might actually be redoing Orican They have one of those rumor engines and they said something about how it's going to be divine, and I'm like, I am a little shocked that they have an updated Trazen's model. Like, he's so popular. Everybody loves him and his pokey balls that, like...

He's the ultimate Pokemon, isn't he really? Yeah, he's the Pokemon master. He's Ash Ketchum. Like, how is he not gotten some crazy, gigantic, updated model? How is that a thing? The ending of Infinite and Divine is, like, the most fans-service ending, but it's so fucking good that I just can't even be upset.

about it with the fucking Pokemon he has a shard of a catan doesn't he know like a legit shard right he has a shard

the seaver in his fault now that's crazy yeah that's a little that's a little suss not gonna lie what would you say

both of your favorite both of your favorite bits from Infinite of the Divine would be oh you want to go first DK or me the the window

I I love when Tresen is looking at the window that they accidentally devoted to the necrons. Oh, yeah. Do you have a window, Orican? Yeah, yeah.

That whole scene's really nice. I like that. The mistranslation of history and the Imperial had to come in and be like, that's not, that's not necrons. That was us, I swear. The silver skull space ring chapter. The silver skull space ring, yeah, that was us.

That's right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It looks suspiciously like us. Yeah, yeah. I got a tie Either the part when they're watching the opera play I'm talking about whether they would actually want their souls back That has a really good emotional depth But I think my favorite might be when he's chatting up the librarian

He's had in service for like 80 years Yeah They are both my favorites Those two scenes It's just the sheer like weight of time That just doesn't exist for these people. Yeah.

You know? Really, really, really fascinating. There was a real tragedy to that poor, oh man, you know, he was like, oh, hello, and then, you know, sort of, Trazan's, like, really annoyed. And he's like, I have to retire now. And he's like, what? Why? You know, and just, he doesn't understand.

Yeah, he's like, what? Oh, God, it's so inconvenient that you have to die, the sort of thing, you know. My bones are breaking. Yeah, yeah. But he did make something weird. He was like, yeah, you know, my kids are in the scola. They're going to good schools. You know, just like simple shit.

Yeah. I do like that it's actually canon that the necrons have like solid distortion feels where they can pretend like they're human. Yeah. Kind of curious. That could go for some pretty good, pretty good little possibilities for later material where they're like hiding in an imperial, whatever. and I kind of like

imagine a sort of flesh terrors but with that sort of clucking device on and sort of so they kind of look half human anyway and they look like

bits of skin and that just goes full Terminator oh boy yeah well there's a lot there's a lot of skin being

thrown around in the last couple twice dead books so that goddamn curse man that actually made me want to buy a seraptic

from the first book yeah those things are Fucking huge. Yeah, I haven't got any necrons. Because I obviously paint, I paint fantasy stuff, but I'm really tempted to get some... You let you know you want to. Come on, you got it.

I was actually going to commission a 3D artist to do an altics figure and then have like five little mini, like circles around him to act as his submines that are like little tokens you can use for power-ups. Yeah, they were cool. I like those sub-mines. They were really tricky if you've got to. talk about recording they were really hard to um to sort of differentiate yeah differentiate yeah yeah five separate minds yeah yeah so that in the end we just sort of came down it came down to more sort of like personalities rather than vocal tones so much but yeah it was like oh no five subminds in one guy's head oh god

that's supposed to sound like him but you also have to almost like differentiate oh dear But yeah, I think we did okay. I would say so. He did excellent. We have made so many Kron fans from these last two books, my dude. Oh, sweet. Oh, yeah. I think me and D.K. are at the forefront of necrons are better than everything else.

Suck our ass. I don't know if we're at the forefront, but. A loud voice. Literally every time someone says necrons, we scream necrons supremacy like sheep. That's true. I guess we do, don't. We have made more episodes on Necrons than any other faction, well,

the exception of like if you just combine space marines in general. See, I'm unbiased, but I do, you know, I think what they've done by making them, giving them character and breathing life into these metallic soulless bodies has been really interesting. And, you know, it's been well worth it. It's been fantastic. It is most definitely,

breathe a lot of life into the characters. And I like the people trapped in robot bodies idea that the nobles have as opposed to the old stuff. So good shit. Yeah, I mean, I think, sorry, I'll just say quickly. I think back when sort of maybe three, two, three years ago, I was saying, oh, you know, Nekron's, they don't really have a lot of love, do they?

Are there some really good NECON books? And I think the, the director was just like, are you waiting to see and then he's just like yeah have this bang I was like oh okay I'll do this one I guess I'll do this

yeah and now you're the voice of tracing the infinite the most popular Necron character in the thing let's go but as I say what's great about working with Warhammer and GW is that somebody else will voice him

no doubt and they will do just a good of job So it's really like I love the Sort of every New actor gives a different flavor To the character Yeah

It's really nice And it also adds a little bit of like Personal preference to it I always think Warhamers are like Star Wars Where some things are really good Some things aren't that good And you can kind of pick and choose what you want Yeah

So it's great Anyway Richard you were like Ah well I'd be there for 30 minutes I told you we would go along I told you we'd start talking about random bullshit. When we go off the rails, it never lasts 30 minutes. Hey, Richard, thanks for coming on, man.

Really appreciate you doing this. Yeah, it was thanks for asking me. Yeah, it's been a real pleasure like recording these books. So long may it continue, hopefully touch with it. Yes, please keep it up. We need more. Yes, and despite it being good for many people to get work, please do voice the third twice dead book

because it would be very jarring to to have someone else. Or if they could just let you voice all of the Necron books, I'd be fine with that too. You know what, Richard, I want you to be the sole VA of all Black Library content. I want you voicing the men. I want you

voicing the women. I want you voicing the tyrantids. That's, I don't know if he has enough time in the day for that, Bricky. That's not what matters. Get the big bucks, baby. It's about the money. I think Keball, Longworth, and John Banks would be very unimpressed and Emma Gregory as well that'll be

Jonathan, Jonathan Keeble is a very, very good VA. He was basically, sorry, I know we'll wrap up soon, he was basically my inspiration,

if you will, into getting into books and, well, voice acting in general. He was one of the, I listened to like a lot of books and I was like,

this author, I mean, this narrator, he's damn good. And then it would just be Keeble all the time. I was like, Okay, he's pretty good

You know what, if we ever have Kibelon, we'll make sure to tell him everything you said and make you feel very embarrassed Oh, he knows it Okay, good I just wrote them a love letter How they know? Yeah, whenever I see him, I found boy

And we're all sort of, we're all very British And we're like, oh yes, well, yes, it's very good Yeah, yes, move along Move along It's a very British indeed, geez All right, all right, sorry, I'm just going to have to edit all this. We've got to cut it off.

All right. Oh, okay, okay, fine. But real quick, Richard, shout out your stuff. Your socials, all that stuff. Get yourself out there. Oh, yeah. So if you want to follow me, I usually only use Twitter, really. So it's at Richard Reed VO.

And I think, let me just check. Let me check my Twitter. Is this my username? At Richard Reed VO. Bam. There it is. And then of course, under the same name, I'm assuming, for, like, if you're going on Audible and you're looking up, like, the... Audible, definitely, yeah.

Yeah, you can find other bits and pieces that are narrated. Awesome. All right, now, Richard, have you seen Bikin's boobs? Oh, my God. No. What, do I want to?