Adeptus Ridiculous - KHÂRN - Nailed It: Angron Parenting Method | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousKhârn, also known as Khârn the Betrayer, is a Chaos Space Marine of the World Eaters Legion. Khârn is the greatest of all the Champions of Khorne, second only to the Daemon Prince Angron in power. He is the avatar of Khorne, embodying that god's indiscriminate rage and bloodlust.Support the show

Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantis, his name is Bricky, and his name is Kirioff. But we'll get into that in just a second. If you enjoy today's episode and maybe you want to support the podcast, heading over to Patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen, $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in crispy digital form. Right now, it is such as the power poster. You'll know it when you see it.

It's probably in the video right now. Patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Bricky, speak your truth. It's me. My truth. I shall speak my truth. Obviously, we have finalized and done flesh and steel. And the next book for the book club is void exile. And we're going to be more on it this time. I promise as I tie my hands behind my back or cross my fingers, whatever. Wow. I was going to say, what? This is just a book, dude. Nightmarish. Yeah, teahee, teahydons. It's okay. They're supposed to be like a little spooky. But also, um, check. So I would actually, normally I would say, hey, check out the merchandise. There's some cool merch going on. But I would actually suggest that you don't.

Uh, we are going to be having a going away sale on a ton of items. And the next, starting next week, including a tiered discount of all the way up to 20% off. So there's a lot of stuff And there's a lot of things going away And so, but that kind of launches next week So next week, prepare yourselves And we'll have a really big sale So tune in next week

And also we'll probably post on the socials And the Discord and stuff But yeah Besides that Krioth What are your thoughts on my God Oh dear Lord What?

I was gonna ask a question about the merch Did we ever sell the born in time For Gathrim and T-shirt? Or did that not get past the plan stage? That's coming. That's coming. Oh, is it really? Well, the plan is that we're going to have a drop for like Q4,

but we have so much stuff on the thing that we want to do like a last chance thing. And then we can do the thing I want to do for Q4. That's amazing. It made it on the poster. It's so good. Oh, I will just say, Shai has put a message in here that I think is important to deliver to the people. I won't shout it even though it isn't. caps because it'll blow the mic out.

If you subscribe to the $15 tier, you get 70 fucking posters. Come on, it's value. It is. It's entirely true. Oh, that sounds like a show. I got to be a hundo with you, Shai. I was kind of wondering if this was the case, too, because I actually started the next book. And I felt like in the first 10 pages, I was like, what the fuck is going on?

And Shai said, Bricky, people are asking, why are you reading the third? book in the trilogy first. What? Apparently, that's the third book. It, they, they, oh. And I must say, I started reading it in like 15 pages and I was like, what? What is all the, where, who? I thought, oh, okay, oh, God damn it.

Because I looked and I checked on online and I was like, oh, this appears to be like, hey, it clearly seems to be, you know, like the same relations or whatever. But it says, because I was on, I was on Audible. Yeah, it says nothing about it being part of the trilogy, actually, doesn't it? It says Carcherodon's book one, Carcaridon's book two, and then Carcaridon's Warhammer 40K. And I'm like, oh, this is clearly something else. Yes, that's what I was thinking, too. God damn it.

All right. Well, okay, screw it. Void exile. Vastor can wait. We're doing red tithe first. Okay. Sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. Jokes on you, idiots.

This was the plan the whole time. Red Tide stars night lords. Oh, fair. Cool, let's do it. We'll get through the trilogy, right? We can get to Vash Tor soon. Anyway, on brand as usual. How much plot could there be?

That's going to make people annoyed. That's, they, those Caradon fans are rabid. I cannot wait to read the Carcherodon's books and then immediately sit there and be like God damn my Carcadon's episode sucked because now I have all this new context and then having to redo it Also on brand for us

We have gone a little off the rails very early So Kirioth I'm sure you are just chomping at the bit To spoon feed us Just the most interesting lore I say lore because I don't know if it's Warhammer. I don't know if maybe you're doing Trench Crusade again. I don't know if you're doing

Hell Divers. It could be anything. Keriath, how are we today? I'm doing good. It's hard to chomp at the bit and try and spoon feed someone but I'm going to do my best. Also chomping, very shark-like, very appropriate. I've got two quotes for you. I've got two

in order. Now if you get it after the first one, I'll be impressed. If you don't get even close to it after the second one, I don't have to threaten anything I think shy will apparate next to you and stab you So not no pressure Me me looking up what apperate means

Just like a pair To magically teleport from one place to another Making a person or object suddenly appear at the destination They disappear from their original look Oh so she's going to do the You're already dead thing God Yeah yeah 100% We know she's capable

She just hasn't bothered yet because it's a lot of effort, but I'm pretty sure it can be done. So, quote number one, Our Primark is a newborn creature of the warp. He needs no protection that legionaries can offer. Rather,

I am sanctified in the colours that are said to most please our new god, but I will not lose myself. Lorgar? I'm with them? I mean, it's chaos related, but that's pretty, that's pretty clear.

That's pretty obvious straight off of that. It's more a question of which chaos? Primark? I can help with the second quote, if you'd like. Can I hear the first one one more time? Yeah, yeah. Okay, our prime arc is a newborn creature of the warp. He needs no protection that lesionaries can offer.

Rather, I am sanctified in the colors that are said to most please our new God, but I will not lose myself. sanctified in the colors that most please are new God, but I will not lose myself. That? Yeah, I mean, it's, I'm going to take a guess. I'm going to assume it is an overarching concept of the traitor primarks turning into demon primarks. That's my overarching guess. I was thinking, like, I don't know if I'm taking this too literal, because it's like, oh, yeah, our primark.

and we're in the colors that he loves most. Immediately I thought of like Angron and just like blood for the blood god. Oh. And they're like draped in, they're like draped in red because they're just covered in blood. DeKheff, you are so, so close to this.

The next quote was Kill Main Burn, kill main burn. So you are, you are like, you are very, very close. It's not Angron, but it is someone close. to Angron. Is it? Carn?

Yes. Nailed it, huh? Yep. I had to get it in early. You've got to get it in early. I did all the heavy lifting. I want partial credit. That was, yeah.

I mean, that was some good working out there, D.K. I am legitimately proud of you. Oh. I mean, speaking of working out, God damn. Oh, yeah, Karn. that unarmored arm? Absolutely. I mean, look at the size of the axe.

It's the same size as him. He's got to have, he's got to have a bit of muscle going. Or he's going to be in real trouble swinging that thing around. I don't know why that didn't. That wasn't the first thing I noticed in that picture of like, wow, that axe is literally as big as him. You know, I never really looked at it. I never really looked at it.

And like, it's stupid to even say that. this, but I never really truly realized how impractical that helmet is. It is so tall. But it's so cool. No, I don't give a, listen, it's the world leaders. I don't give a shit about practicality. I could care less, but I never realized, like, it's, it's like five heads lengths. It's so big.

And I'm just imagining him trying to get through doors. Granted, you probably just, like, runs into the doors, like juggernauts them, but, I'm like, damn, that's a big helmet. And the helmet's yelling. It's such a good look, but you have to think when that helmet was first adopted, there will have been a lot of like Stormtrooper-esque banging your head on the bulwark and then getting annoyed about it. Like, it's got to have happened quite a few times.

But the trade-off is you look like a lunatic, which is exactly what you want. So, I think worth it, honestly. I think it's worth it. you think the thousand sons had the same problem maybe even worse i'm pretty sure there's a taller even than the world eater ones i've not measured them personally but they look i think because also it's like it's usually one like one big thing sticking out they've they've got more girth than the world eaters ones so that feels like it makes a difference that is a terrible sentence look it's a dedicated car on episode so today

so today we're going to go over the very reasonable and level-headed, Khan the Betrayer. At least in his eyes, he's reasonable. To pretty much everyone else in the galaxy, he is the physical embodiment of rage and death. He's feared not only by his enemies, but also his allies. And even the dark gods themselves generally don't like summoning Khan, because even though he will bring in a high kill count, that kill count is likely to include a fair amount from all sides involved. So we're going to go over Khan from his early history to the siege of terror and his eventual destined transformation into the betrayer. And again, all artwork of Khan is solid. I don't know why, but it feels like they

go hard every time. I was going to say, I haven't seen... Oh, go ahead, go ahead. I said they're not given restraint. Like, why would they? You know, it's like, oh, this is Karn. All right, go nuts. Yeah, we need art of a power-armored murderer. Do what you like. Okay, cool. Yeah. So the story of Khan, much like most of the named Warries of Chaos, starts quite a long time ago. Khan was born on terror and was inducted into the pre-world eaters, known as the Warhounds. Him and the rest of the earliest neophytes were brought to the world of Bod for training,

and his training was conducted by Centurion Gruner. And even before the return of Angron, Gruner's ruthlessness established a baseline of strength, through brutality within the Legion, and these lessons were fundamental to the moulding of Khan. Khan rose through the ranks and became the captain of the Warhounds' 8th Assault Company. I do feel like the name Warhounds, it's pretty good for a Legion, but it's definitely not as front-loaded as World Eaters. There's no ambiguity for World Eaters.

Warhounds, a little bit, you know, and yes, of the 8th Company is a lovely. detail. I like that a lot. And you have plenty of like canine-based chapters anyway. Like you are, do you really need a war hounds and a lunar wolves? And the space wolves.

And like, who knows how many other like subchapters are named wolf things. It's like, okay, fine. Word bears goes way harder for sure. Also, like, you know, world eaters, especially. Yeah, yeah, I must say, Those are the wrong folks, but they were friends, I guess.

Kind of sort of. Friends, the greatest bromance in literature of history. What you talk about? I don't know why I always mentally flip-flopped those names every time. Probably because the two books that we read are the ones that have the word bearers and the world eaters. And then next thing, and then me with a novel in my mouth. Oh, yes, the word eaters. but I mean the war hounds that whole thing

kind of like the space wolves are half the reason why they're no longer the war hounds anymore because you know hounds are dogs dogs obey and they don't do that we'll get there we'll get to the night of the wolf I'm sure I remember that yeah it is in retrospect the least appropriate name for that legion it might have been at the time when they first started out

but history said no. So eventually, Angron gets found by the Emperor after he's hastily transported onto the Warhound ship. Of course, the Legion were really happy, really proud. They finally get to meet their father.

But for some reason, Dad wasn't happy and stormed off to his room. Stormed off to his room, you mean after he like... What everything he knew? Three custodians with his bare hands. or whatever he did.

I was going to say, I imagine he'd be pretty pissed after watching everything he knew and loved die on the planet, which he was like, oh yeah, don't worry, guys, I'll totally die with you.

This is my resting place, and then, what, yeah, I imagine he'd be a little annoyed. It's not the best introduction that Biggie could have given him. You know,

there's a few things there that perhaps could have been done better. It's only moments like this that cause me to, like in last week's episode, say things like the emperor, who's an idiot, it's only because he does

silly things sometimes. We love him, but judgment calls, in some cases, he just didn't make the right decisions, you know? We love him? Speak for yourself.

I was about to say, we is a little strong. I was going to say, I think he's a carrion emperor. He can burn for all I care. His actions have led to the, led to law, God's work being proliferated across the galaxy.

Therefore, we have to like him. Because the best son won. Thanks to his actions. See, there's a constant thing where it's like, well, unfortunately, you know, maybe the emperor wasn't supposed to be an idiot. Unfortunately, he was written by like 12 different authors. And in some of those books, he's an idiot. And unfortunately, those books are canon.

So unfortunately, he's an idiot. There is a fair bit of that. Oh, that's a good little, DK, read the thing. Oh, so shy posted this little X. I don't know where it's from, but, Father is not always right, said the Khan evenly. Spoken as you were meant to speak, said Malcador. Perhaps, said the Khan, but perhaps also he should have looked beyond his intended use for us

and should have trusted us. He is a distant father. It's very true. That's Biggie in a nutshell. I will say, and I feel like this is something that I'm slowly kind of turning this way, and Luton kind of put me onto this. I'm starting to think that Biggie is not that smart. I mean, he is smart, like obviously, technically.

But I feel like he's, I'm starting to think Malcador is the guy. I am beginning to get the feeling from the other stuff that I've read that Malcador is actually the main person behind all the scenes, and Biggie is like his puppet. or was, and now Malcador's gone, so now the puppet master's gone. And so it's like, oh, crap, I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know. I, I, I'm getting this, this feeling that, that Mr. Malky might have been a bit more. For me, he's the brains, big, he's the brawn.

He's just sort of the figure head that's just there to like appease the masses while Malkador's really doing all the, the heavy lifting and planning and scheming behind the scenes and just, I want to go that far, Like, it's weird. The amount of, like, Malcador-based things of Malcador talking about how, like, I found

the emperor. Like, I found him. I helped raise him or whatever. Like, I brought him up. Like, I'm the real, whatever. And I can, you can never tell because Malcador is very unreliable of a narrator because he's Malcolm tour. But it's, I don't know.

It's a toughie. This is a whole other conversation to be had here. This is a long- True. This is a whole different episode, right? There's nothing to do with Carn. in and of itself. Yeah, but you see, this is a current episode,

so we need a shit talk to the emperor. That's like required. Hell yeah, brother. So yeah, Angron gets discovered. He gets taken away from a final battle with all of his friends. He's not happy about it. And in the process of being distinctly unhappy,

which is fully justified, he kills a couple of custodies, it's fine, and quite a few of the captains of the war hounds in the process. And if you're wondering, like, well, why didn't anyone fight back? Big E specifically said, do not raise your hands against Angron. Don't do anything to Angron when he shows up. So after Angron has slapped around his own captains, killing a good chunk of them, he stormed off, refused to acknowledge his sons, and morale went through the floor.

Understandably, because the Warhounds have been searching for their prime mark, for their father, that they find him, and he wants absolutely nothing to do with them. And as a result, they didn't really know what to do. Khan, however, felt a deep connection to his Primark, despite only seeing him for just a moment. So he took it upon himself to see if he could talk some sense into Angron. He walked off, unarmed, by the way, boss move, found his dad, and had a really nice and calm chat. The intro to which, Bricky, if you could do the honours here, Of course.

He exhaled and took another step into the room. For a moment, he thought he could hear movement, the padding of feet, a rush of air that felt like breath before everything splintered and whirled, and he crashed into a pillar wall to land hard on his back, gasping in pain. It's like, hey, hey, dad, do you have the milk? And then he just like, just gets decked in the head. Also, I thought it was funny. It was like, oh, yeah, Biggie had to tell everyone not to attack.

really, Angron, who just crushed like three custodies. It's like, no, don't worry, Biggie. You got it, buddy. I'm not going to swing it back guy. Don't worry. No, trust me, I got this. Don't worry. Having seen that, I don't really feel compelled to try and defend myself.

I might just try running instead, to be fair. I wasn't thinking of doing it, but thanks for the reminder, Biggie. P, P, P.OV, your, PPOV, your car and about to talk to your dad. Well, funnily enough, Angron was not having any of this mild-mannered approach and he just proceeds to throw Khan around the room, screaming at him to fight back and Khan refuses to do so. What followed was an absolute spanking that nearly killed Khan, but at no point did he actually push back. Eventually, Angron asked Khan a simple question, which was why.

Because Angron could tell that Khan was built for war and built for bloodlust, but he couldn't understand why he wasn't fighting back. Khan said he was proud of his Legion and his brothers, which prompted Angeron to kick him across the room and start taking the piss, saying that it was not prideful to watch the captain's die, and that Khan didn't know what brotherhood was or what battles truly were. At which point, he started beating him to death again, until Khan laid it out as clear as he could. he and no other member of the Legion would raise a hand to him because he was their blood, their fountain head and their leader

that needed to take a rightful place at the front of the Legion. Kahn said he envied those who'd fought alongside him before he was found and that his only hope in life was that he had a chance to fight with him in a similar manner, which calmed Angron just enough for him to actually speak with Kahn. And they actually had a bit of a heart to heart. Angron lamented about the death of those he cared for at the hands of the emperor, and Khan was able to tell him about his battles and the interactions with Angron's brothers. The stability didn't last long, obviously, and Angron eventually snapped again,

kicking Khan in the chest across the room and demanding that he fight back, but Khan said one last thing that stopped Angron entirely decay. You are my primark and my general, Lord Angron. swore that I would seek you out and follow you and I will not fight you and if I must die then yours is the hand I will die by. I am Karn and I am loyal to your will. Damn. Heartwarming. All while getting the shit kicked out of you, huh? Yeah. That's crazy. Getting absolutely beaten to death pretty much. Angron mulled this over and not only partially accepted the war hounds, only partially, but he did accept them, which he called his world eaters.

but Khan then got the mantle of Angron's Eckery a job that, as you can imagine, absolutely sucked. Yeah. I'm sorry, what is an equery? We're now 0 for two on words today. It's essentially like a kind of... I'd say assistant, but it's deeper than that. Like a...

I mean, like a seneschal, like Abelard, my king? Yeah, that's all. thing. Okay, that's sick. Cool with that. I assumed he was just sort of like the go-between so that like your normal everyday soldier or space marine wouldn't have to go up to Angron and get absolutely massacred.

But it's like, Carn, we have something we need to tell Angron, but we don't want to die. You seem to have survived your meeting. Could you ask him about the air conditioning settings and you know, stuff like that, I assume? Me taking a Zamb. Annex and like an oxycodden because I'm about going to go tell my dad that I crashed the car.

Something like that. Yeah, pretty much. There were some cultural differences between Angron and the World Eaters, and the chief one among them was the fact that Angron didn't really respect them because they didn't have the butcher's nails. I mean, to be fair, they didn't have the butcher's nails. I mean, to be fair, they didn't have the butcher's nails because the implementation of them would likely kill them. But this was an issue for Angron.

And due to the... Oh, my God. I've read this line like four times today in the hope that I will get through it without laughing, but it probably won't happen. I mean, I can read it if you like. You know what? You do this bit because it's got me every time. Possum knows my level now, and he's specifically targeting me in ways that I never anticipated. Due to the lack of nails in his household,

Angron stepped out to the hardware store one day and didn't come back. Literally, he hijacked a ship and pie stout from his Legion for two years. But Carn was unrelenting in finding his primark. I forgot he did that. He just left. That's right. This needs to go like sulk on some kind of, I was going to say midsummer. That's not what it's called.

Something moosephar fucking place. Yeah. And Karn has to go like kind of verbally bitch-slapp him back into like being the Primark and being Angron and being like, hey, this isn't the way our Primark works. Come on. Stop being

such a pansy. Like, what are you doing, man? And kind of has to like whip him back into shape. Yeah, it's not on those lines. That's funky. Yeah. I mean, it was a case of Khan finding him on a feral world and Angron was in a bit of a feral state.

And he'd hoped that his brothers would find him and kill him, which is, I mean, even the 40K standards, pretty dark. He was not happy that Kahn found him first, and Kahn essentially just demanded that he returned to the Legion, stop messing around. But he did offer a bit of a bargain. He said the wrong thing in the process of trying to convince Angron. He told Angron that he and the World Eaters would do anything to have Angron come back to the Legion. And obviously for Angron, Anything meant busting out the butcher's nails

for a bunch of fatal procedures. However, Khan, Khan is, he's got some worth. He's pretty solid. He made it through the process, and it wasn't pretty, because the result was him

ripping people limb from limb as he came to from the operation, and he essentially woke up completely covered in blood, and as he finally regained control of himself, Angron approaches him and calls him his son. What a terrible parent-child dynamic. Absolutely horrendous. You have absolutely permanently maimed yourself

to feel nothing but agony unless when you're mad. I'm proud of you. I finally accept you. Yeah. Oh, boy. Yuck. Oh, horrible. What followed is best summed up as a bloodbath.

Like, it's a tactical one, but it's still a bloodbath. Obviously, Angron is a loose cannon due to the nails. Kahn still not the most stable of folks, but Kahn was essential when it came to breaking through and communicating with Angron. And to his credit, pre-heresy Kahn was very level-headed, and his ability to communicate with Angron in an interpersonal and tactical manner was extremely needed. It was revered even. But just because he was level-headed by World Eater's standards doesn't mean he was, by any means, chill. In addition to the Nails implementation,

he also went through extensive surgery and treatments to heighten his desire for aggression. He even got a little gift from Horace, which was a kill-count tracker installed directly into his helmet, which... Wow, really? Why does that even exist? Why is that a thing that you need? That's, hey, I mean, that sounds like something he would really like, though. Also, yeah, pre-heresy Karn looks dope shy.

Wow. That's great. It looks so good. Yeah, it's a cool, dude. His brutality was well known by this point, even by those who didn't know him directly. And there's a, there's a love. lovely little quote by Nathaniel Garrow, one of the best boys who had a terrible time.

Oh, who's doing this one? Oh, this is you, man. I did the last one. Oh, this is me. Okay. A cadre of his, Angron's chosen men were at his side, led by Nestartes that Garrow knew by reputation alone. Karn, master of the eighth company. Unlike Idlon, who was known for Raggedosio. What? Carn's name was synonymous with brutality in battle.

There were rumors of slaughters Karn had caused that even the most ruthless of the death guard found difficult to stomach. I mean, I'm assuming it's like the phrase braggadocious where you're very big on bragging. Yeah, I... I've heard that phrase. Dude, we got to stop using these hard words today.

I'm not sore enough for this. There's too many. So, like the other word, I just assumed context from that and the base word being like kind of brag, braggadocio, that it was something like that. So I kind of just went with it, but I've never heard someone use the term braggadocio. Yeah, I'll be honest, I'm right there with you. Like, I'd read that word before, but you don't see it often. It's a rare one. It doesn't come up a lot.

Regardless of Kahn's brutality, though, he did have close ties with quite a few space marines, including. including the innocent, beautiful boy, Garville Loken, and Sigismund. But sometimes friendships come to an end. And a great place for friendships to end is Isvan 3. Yeah, I suppose so. Yeah, you know. That is so true. It's very fitting that I don't understand the words in the World Eater episode.

I'm just like, you need to get some more of those books to eat breaking. Yeah, my word eating needs to continue it. Or, I mean, I prefer my world bearing, but that one's a little different.

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, come to Isfam, my friendship's hand. Yeah, new tourism advertisement there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a, there's a whole light. Kill your friends. Put that on a sticker and throw it up in the shot brother.

There's like a whole I survived three and all I got like that was this stupid t-shirt yeah I survived that needs to be

a whole like submerch category for just you know tourism quotes of gas rim and I survived is Vand

three like all of this stuff just like that was a stupid key chain yeah stupid sticker yeah if it's clothing

it's just block white text on a black t-shirt and nothing else Like, that's all it needs to be. Comic Sans text, yeah. Comic Sans. Come to Isfant 3 where friendships end. That is perfect merchandise.

Classic. So, the purging of loyalists on Isfant was, of course, not the best way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Though we don't see the initial corruption of Kahn, we know his battlefield tact. And it's pretty clear that Korn held the door open for him. we do however see the end result of a corrupted khan during a conflict with his old friend loken and by conflict we of course mean khan started to get all murdery and loken was like bruh jesus christ parson loken not happy wanted an explanation from khan because he could not recognize him by his actions khan stopped for one moment and told him that he was the eightfold path and that there was no way off the path and that we must all always go further. In that moment, Loken knew that this would only end one way.

Death. Loken obviously fought for his life, first with weapons and then with fists, but he did have somewhat of an ace up his sleeve because a land raider impaled Kahn, which is one of my favorite moments from those books, simply because it's a bit random in a way. It's like, oh, it's a fight to the death.

Oh, it's going really badly. Oh, wow, he got impaled by a land raider. What the hell happened there? It was... Rollercoachosures. That feels like such a world eater thing, though. It's just like I'm imagining their version of like the and then like the land raeer just slams into him going at full speed.

It just sounds like a world eater thing to do. And then like a different world eater jumps out of the top and it's just like, I have your back. He's just hanging off it like a stuffed animal on a garbage truck, just dangling there. Yeah. Fortunately though, fortunately, well, for him,

unfortunately for literally everybody else, Kahn was saved by his old pal apothegary Korgas, and he was back in action after a little while. One of the earlier conflicts we see

involving Kahn had to do with the aftermath of the scouring of Prospero. Obviously, the scouring itself was the space wolves attack against the home world of the Thousand Suns due to Magnus' inability,

to stop with all the psychos stuff. The World Eaters, though, had made their way into the ruins of Prospero to seek out an item known as the Moon Wolf. It's wolves all the way down. The Moon Wolf was a piece of Horace's power armour that Magnus used to contact his spirit during his inevitable fall to chaos.

At the same time... Oh, that's how he did it. A little bit of classic focus. You've got to have something to focus in on. I was going to say like a tracking dog being given a bit of clothing to track someone down, but that seems really dark, but I don't know why. Could just be chasing the murderer, it's fine. Anyway, there was also, that doesn't make it better,

Thousand Sun's Captain Menez Calliston, who was also in the ruins of Prospero, gets jumped by the World Eaters, and Khan himself interrogates him for information on the location of the Moon Wolf. However, Calliston is able to see into Khan's soul and sees a dual reason for him being there. Though they did legitimately seek the moon wolf, Khan also sought out Prospero to find ancient arcane tech to free him from his pain and to ease the terror of his constant pulsing agony that could only be numbed with murder. Calistin obviously tries to reason with Khan and says that despite the device is being lost,

that he had an innate psychic ability to ease the pain. And for a moment, it felt like he was able to speak to a former fragment of Khan's self. But Khan then snapped out of it, calling him a witch, and beating him to death.

Because of course he did. See you. Right. God damn it. It's like, hey, knock that off. I just, I don't know, man. Please stop. Well, it's so, it's so,

It's so difficult because, like, you know, you know the world eaters. And you think about the world eaters when you play world eaters or when you learn about world eaters and you're like, damn, these are like actual frothing maniacs. And then you learn about their past. And you're like, oh, man, this is actually kind of sad. Like, you know, they have a clear, like fall from grace. Like, it's kind of sad seeing how they were before they were like hardcore corn corrupted world eaters and et cetera.

And then, but then you like read things like this. and just like, no, stop it, which, and then beats him to death. And then like, I'm like, aw, world eaters. Yeah. Yeah. The Warhammer bell curve is such a real thing. Too true. Too true.

Yeah, it's like, damn, these world eaters are lunatics. No, they're so misunderstood. Like, nah, these world eaters are lunatics. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you want to feel even more sad, in his final moments, Calliston knew that turning down his offer would haunt Khan deep down for the rest of his life.

He envisioned Khan's future, seeing a completely uncontainable force of rage that can never have a master because he cannot even master it himself. And he was absolutely correct. Yeah. Horrible. Just horrible. From there, the most significant pre-s siege conflict Khan found himself in was the Shadow Crusade, which was deeply covered in Betrayer, which my favorite part was when Khan walked in the room and says it's betraying time and betrayed all over Erebus.

He did say those exact words. Word for word, that's a quote, yeah. Yeah, it's indirect. Yeah, I actually shy, I think you're spot on with that in a way. huge metaphor for abusive relationship with parents. Wow, that's dark. Oh, never mind, you just beat someone to death with their own arm. Never mind. This is sick.

Dope. So, we've got Khan's final return to terror as well to talk about. The Siege of Terror, absolute playground for Khan. He's a full-on berserker mode, absolutely full of beans, and a full-fledged attack on his former home. You're doing this on purpose now.

You're specifically, I don't think you say this beans thing normally. I feel like this is specifically for me to hurt me. It's in the script, Ricky. You've got to say it. It's in the script. That one wasn't in the script. I added that. I didn't really think about it because I do say it fairly often, which now I'm thinking I probably shouldn't.

Just full of beans. I don't know, man. It's a legitimate phrase where I'm from. Legitimate. Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, it's legit. I say it all the time too You know

I don't believe that But I appreciate it It's kind of full of beans right now Bricky is what I think It's just like You know what it makes me think of It makes me think of this one Meme I've seen all the time

The December festive one And this is a Reddit link I'm sorry but it's the first one that came up It's a you know Festival of confused Full of Cheats I'm sure of the day of the week You know, it just makes me think of that.

Yeah. I'd never seen that one, but all right. Okay, sure. I love that. It's just so accurate. Okay, beans aside, Khan is a lunatic, and we know this. There's been an attack on his former home world,

and he's got a bit of bloodlust going on, and if Angron gets his way, he and the World Eaters will be the first to land on terror to begin the siege. There is one problem, though. Horus had already made a vow to Mortarian that the death guard will be the first ones to make landfall, and the others will have to wait.

As you can guess, Angron handled this pretty poorly. He goes on a full-fledged rampage through the conqueror, deck by deck, blindly destroying everything in his path. And as he gets lower in the ship, it becomes very clear that his rage could result in him in, like angrily destroying the reactor and causing a ship-wide detonation that could wreck all the other ships in orbit. I remember this.

I remember this and I'm pretty sure Latara is like, goddamn and get it out of here. They just like throw them onto the planet, right? Well, I feel so bad for Latara Sarin. She's such a good character, but she's constantly having to put up with Ankhron being like a monstrous, lunatic in her presence. And then all the rest of the Legion are like, yeah, we're going to emulate that.

And it's like, oh, my God, you've got so much to deal with. You've got the patience of a saint, even though you are definitively, like, not great yourself. Yeah. I get the feeling it has the same energy of, like, the abusive dad and yet the mom is, like, worse. Latara is, like, a great character, but she is, like, objectively, like, a horrid war monger. Oh, yeah. I mean, most

Space Marines and their stuff are, but it's just funny for her to be like, God damn it, like, you can, yeah, beat the kids. You can beat the kids, but like, you wrecked my Bugatti, we. Don't dent the house.

Jesus. Don't shove them through the wall. We'll have to get that repaired. What is your problem? Go outside and do that. Well, Lothara Sarin has to go up to Khan, who was also not having a good time

because he also wanted to be first on the planet and kind of explain the situation. After a bit of back and forth, they made contact with Gendor Sryvok of the Night Lords. Sure. Sure, whatever, man. That's how you pronounce that.

That's fine. I'm sure it's close enough. Oh, yeah. I would have gone Gendor Scribock too, yeah. Yeah, my favorite Nightlord's character, Grendel, lovely. Grundle Scrivark.

Grundle Scriber. So they get in contact with Grundle Scribark of the nightlords, which even then they don't want to do it because the night lords and the world eaters don't really like each other. And they have a plan to throw Angron into one of the labyrinths in the nightfall for the time being,

and then to just drop him onto terror when they're ready. The only catch is that they needed someone to lure him into the trap, and, you know, Kahn can talk with Dad better than anyone else. So Kahn gets to go into the lower decks of the ship and get Angron's attention. And without even seeing him, he senses Angron. And Angron just says, Lord Korn demands blood and schools, and asked whether Kahn could hear those cries too. And here we go, here's a lovely, not a tall alarming quote. Ah, all right, I think this is me now. Carn felt a stir of unease.

He heard the whispers. The words remained elusive, but the furious insistence that murder be done and blood spill was clear enough. He feared hearing what the words would say. He knew that enlightenment would come in time. I do not hear him, my lord, said Karm. You will. He values you, my son. Heavy footsteps thumped deep in the stacks, knocked chains jangled.

these slaves are unworthy of offerings for the blood god but you karn your skull will make a fine gift oh boy hearing that from angron is not exactly the final words you want it's not great oh man also i love the acknowledgement there he values you i'm going to kill you anyway yeah i like the idea that that corn probably is like, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, I know corn does not care from where the blood flows, but I do get a feeling that corn cares a little bit. Yeah, I feel like if corn saw this, like, hey, hey, hey, hey, well,

he, he brings in a lot of skulls. I don't want him dead just yet. So. Yeah, I may be, I may be evil with a bit. Don't kidding. He's an essential worker, man. Yeah, he's an essential fog in the wheel. Come on.

Have you seen his return rates? discord? Come on. Yeah, yeah. This is like, this is like the evil tech CEO. And Karn is the developer who made their baseline code. And he just like, you know, like, yeah, he's a shithead, but like, we gotta keep him. We got like the, everything runs off of what he knows. We got to, up his salary. I don't care. We can't lose Jeff.

Mm-hmm. But please stop. What an analogy. He's necessary. Yeah, yeah, this is, this is the, uh, Angron's the C-O. And he's like, you got to stop it, man. You got to stop beating Jeff to death.

Poor Jeff. Kill the intern. Put one out for Jeff. So Angron and Khan, they engage in a heated battle. The entire time Angron is goading him, calling him a failure and an embarrassment. But unlike the earlier conflicts, Khan actually fought back. although it's obviously very clear Kahn is not a match for Angron

but Angron was too blinded by rage to notice what Kahn had up his sleeve a plasma pistol and a teleport homer so before a final blow could be struck Kahn shot Angron in the face with the plasma pistol and attached the teleport homer to him forcing him to be teleported off to the nightfall to await deployment

which I just love that the distraction technique for attaching a teleport homer is shooting someone in the face with a plasma a plasma pistol with the heat of the sun

and I would have loved to have seen Angron's reaction and it probably was like just oh damn fly bit me in the nose suddenly he's in the nightfall yeah it's like a stasis chamber or something in the nightfall I don't what was it again a labyrinth

you got to put in one of the whole labyrinths that Coes built. Oh, yes, of course. How could it? Right, he got put in, like, the place that he tortured Vulcan for forever or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the more I hear about Co's, the more I'm starting to think he was a bit of a wronging.

Yeah? You know. Yeah. Just the only on you now. Oh, I'm scaring. This is new revelation? You know, I'm getting, I'm getting this weird, like, reverse pole situation where because the night Lords have become like a little bit more of a popular faction. People are learning about them.

I think some people are getting a little too like, ah, yeah, night lords, you know, they really were betrayed for this situation. And I kind of have to step in and be like, no, no, they suck, man. They're evil. They deserve what they got. They were pretty categorically awful from like day one. You don't need to be like, oh, no, no, they're fine. No, they just went down the wrong path. No, no. This is. this is being too Talos pilled. Sorry, Talos is also terrible. He's just like

neat. Yeah. So we got a... What is this shot? Wait, no, this is actually perfect. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Oh, no.

Apologies for the foul language I'm about to say, but I have to read it. When you think about it, there really are no good guys and bad guys in the 40k universe, everyone is just as bad as each other, said by brother rink strangle of the orphan slayer's lesion. Jesus, Craig. God damn.

Oh, man. Yeah, like, yeah. I don't know. I see that sometimes. I'm like, guys, come on. I'm the biggest night lord simp. And like, don't. No, no.

Knock it off. Not really with the night lords. When Biggie has to expressly be like, guys, the torture, like, you got to calm it down. Like, it's too much. I'm Biggie, damn it. I love the idea of it being like, okay, we'll try and cut down on the torture, but can we still display video of the torture onto our armor when we're attacking people?

It's like, guys, come on. Yeah, please. Yeah, but Biggie's also a shithead because he did tell them to be the torturers. So, like, you know. That's true. Now I'm going back the other direction. See, you got to find the right. in between here, you know.

You got to find the right in between. Anyway, all that being aside. Curse was a, was a, was to use some phrase. A vision rate of a, a bit of a nutter and full of beans. Full of beans, rather, hell yeah. 100% of the time. Wait, December 1st through 26th, festive. December 27th, on the nightfall, full of beans.

unsure of the day of the week. Oh, Angron. I look forward to that poster. That's going to be a great one. Eventually, eventually, all of the traitors, they finally get a chance to show up planet-side on terror, and Khan would find himself involved

in an incredible amount of conflict on the planet, so much so that his name had become almost entirely synonymous with the concept of oncoming death. He had almost gone feral at this point, tearing his way through line after line to get closer and closer to the inner palace. Eventually, he encountered his old friend Sigismund and, wait, is it Sigismund or Sigismund? I've never heard it said out loud. I've always heard it as Sigisman, like a ghe, like a g-a, like a g-o-oh.

Okay, I will adjust. So, he encountered his old friend Sigismund and a brutal jewel ensued. Of course, Sigismund, a lot more tact. and a very skilled swordsman, but unfortunately for him he brought a butter knife to a tank fight and the sheer might and blind rage of Kahn was almost too much to handle. Fortunately, the man with the best moustache in 40K Rogaldorn showed up, presumably after a bathroom break, and hit Kahn so hard with Storm's teeth that Kahn was thrown a dozen metres through the air and was put out of commission.

But you can't keep a good lad down. Now can you? Khan found himself back in action, making his way through the palace, leaving unspeakable violence in his wake. He also left unmemorable violence in his wake, as he manages to kill the commander of the Sisters of Silence, Janisha Kroll,

and doesn't even remember it happening, which is honestly personally upsetting, because Janisha Kroll has got such a cool model. Also, Janisha Kroll is like a really interesting, character. She's the leader of the Sisters of Silence. She actually plays a pretty good role in like a lot of the pre-heresy stuff too. And she just gets steamrolled by Korn? Well, I mean, her getting steamrolled by Karn is not like entirely, doesn't sound like out of character.

I think it's the laxadaisical way that it happens. That's a little bit upsetting. Yeah. It's, yeah. I mean, so I'm going to put a quote in here. So this is, This is exactly how it's portrayed, shifting from a first-person perspective of the sister to a third person of Kahn. So, it's so rough. Do you want me to read it? Yeah, take it away. I see Karn coming. Karn, first captain.

He is a true giant. My null curse does not even slow him down or give him pause. I raise my sword, veracity. I speak in Karn's language. I... A flicker. Karn noticed a long number Oh, hang on

A flicker, Carr noticed a long number of his tally count had suddenly risen by one. A moment of confusion. He did not remember making another kill. He did not see anything. But his axe is spitting blood. The rage makes everything a blur.

The number did not matter. It never had. The flicker of confusion passed as the nails bit and the fury deepened. He moved on. Oh man, that sucks for her. That's harsh. I do wonder if that was because of the null field.

You know, like, he just doesn't remember it because of, you know, like, she says it doesn't seem like it has an effect on him. But I can see, you know, I can see the idea of him just, like, not remembering it because of the field in a way. But that, that somehow makes it even worse, where it's like this thing that she was born with that was a massive boon in terms of. obtaining her position of being what she was, then just means that the person who killed her a significant and important character didn't even know it happened. It's weird.

Oh, it's gone up by one. I don't care. It's so harsh, which obviously, peak 40K, you know, no lives matter, but like, oh, God, it's so grim. Yeah, it's weird, because on one hand, it's, like, not very satisfying, but it's completely, it also is completely like in character.

In a way, it's great. Yeah. It's grim dark, right? Yeah. It would be great to have a heroic duel where finally she succumbs to the kind of overwhelming strength of a chaos space marine who is being directly powered by corn through bloodshed. But you don't get that. You don't even get that. You just get killed in an offhand manner.

by someone who's so angry they don't even know you're there to begin with. That's way worse, and as such, it's way more Warhammer. Yeah, it's bizarre, because I feel like it's, it's a kind of a shitty ending for Janitia Kroll, who deserves better, but it's a very accurate ending for, like, uh, uh, Karn, you know, in a sense. Yeah. I was going to say, what's the quote from Game of Thrones? Like, what was it? If you were expecting a happy ending?

you weren't paying attention. And it kind of, it kind of has that vibe of like 40Ks, like you're probably not getting your happy ending. It's just going to be bloodshed, torment, loss, tragedy, awful, blah. Yeah. And like even the biggest heroes or the best and brightest can just get absolutely destroyed. Like, again, one of the things that's really fun about the word bearers omnibus is there being a champion of the white consoles, was it?

but he's like he's the chapter champion he's so skilled he's so good in close combat he's an absolute legend and then he comes up against a dark apostle who just dismantles him without using a weapon just kills him just absolutely destroys him and he's the best

of the chapter and he just gets wiped out and it's like oh my god it's so harsh this guy this guy was an actual like in the annals of the chapter a hero and then some guy just shows up and it's like, nah, and just ruins him. It's underwhelming, but in a way that's perfect

for the setting it's in. Yep. So, eventually, through his journey inward in the palace, Kahn does meet his match. Sigismund, again, but this time the Black Sword was ready. The two engaged in combat, but Sigismund did not say a word, which was infuriating for Kahn. It seemed that Kahn's drawing to Sigismund both the first time and the second time was a subconscious quest to relive the days of them sparring and fighting together. They would, in the past, talk and laugh all the time, but now the Sigismund he faced was silent and cold. Kahn screamed at him to be angry and to be alive, but Sigisman resisted it, silently parrying and fighting back. The attrition of this battle wore Khan down to the bone, despite,

being yoked up on corn flakes. And Khan ended up getting weak and winded, and as he became less precise, he saw the crumbling walls of terror around him and the impact of the multi-year war against the Imperium. And for a brief moment, he felt that the cycle of battle had been completed. His final exhausted words to Sigismund

was him panting, I am not as damaged as you. And he didn't even see the killing strike. Khan was killed on the world that he was born on. By him? But... Yeah, but... The end.

The end. He's gone. He's dead. Never to return, I'll wait. To be fair, he was actually dead. Like, as far as anyone was concerned, he was gone. And his body was taken onto the flagship of the ninth company by Captain Drager and placed on a bed that became something of a shrine. But the world eaters have a problem. They are scattered due to the events of the siege, and they're without a leader.

The scattering, of course, turns into infighting, the infighting turns into almost civil war. There are many that believe that Khan returning would bring unity back to the Legion, but others are not so sure. Eventually, a splintered group of world eaters decide that the only way to continue forward was to remove the past, and the best way to do this was to break into the shrine for Khan and kill him, as this would level the chain of command and result in the dedicated need for new leadership. So after stalling the ship, a splinter group of world eaters attempted to do just that, cutting their way all the way through to the shrine, and one of the world eaters raised his blade and cast it down on Khan's body.

And funnily enough, it didn't go well. Ah, mm-hmm. There was hot blood splattered upon Karin's face, droplets on his cheek, brow, eyelids, and mouth. His lips parted ever so slightly, the movement imperceptible. A scarlet droplet touched his tongue. Life blood spilled in battle, or sorry, lifeblood spilled in battle. Life blood spilled in anger. Behind him, the world eater drew the point of his gladius back, ready to deliver the killing blow.

Karn opened his eyes and blood began to flow. It should have been a fatal stroke. There was no way that the veteran legionary could miss his target at such range. But then, this was Karn. Well, I'm a little confused here. Wasn't Karn like dead dead? And they're going to kill him when he's already a dead body? If you're beloved by Korn and you bring as many skulls to the throne

as Khan does, are you ever truly dead? Are you ever really gone? Or is there a little bit of lingering warp nonsense going on that means that there's a chance you could come back? Oh, I, well, I guess, sure, it's just, yeah, this all happened. I was like, wait, did he kind of sort of survive-ish? Why are they, why are they going to stab the dead body? Like, what? He's technically dead, but there's a lack of, like decomposition and the like that would go with being dead. So there's a little bit of like, there's a little bit of leeway where it's like

oh he could be, he could be gone. Gotcha. Maybe there's just a tiny little bit that's still hanging on and all he needs is a power up in the form of some poor bastard's blood. And then he's up and running once again. I mean, that is the most

like, like world eater corn thing. A little, like he's just about dead. A little bit of blood. gets on him and he's like, he's just, I'm going to kill you. Just a little blood. It's like the duke I hit with like a Narcan shot or something. Mm-hmm.

So with all this happening, within a matter of 30 seconds, Kahn just wipes out the room. The lesionaries that are watching describe him as barely human. He was revived as an unblinking apex predator completely lost to blood, lust and the nails. And initially, after being begged to lead the Legion, Khan said no, stated that his desire was never to be in a diplomatic role. I can't imagine why that would be, all those years of dealing with Angron. But time was short, the world eaters needed to unite,

and in order to do so, a world was needed to call home. They did find a world known as Scalithrax that felt like a pretty great spot, all things considered, but the world weren't the only ones who had eyes for it. The Emperor's Children also had a pretty strong desire for this planet, and there was an attempt at a ceasefire, but representatives of the Emperor's children met with Khan to discuss terms, but they were a bit miffed from the get-go. They didn't really care for the fact that the Cornate forces were decked out in weapons,

and one of the emissaries mocked the size of Khan's act. To make matters worse, a demon accompanied them, who would not break contact, or like break eye contact with Khan. So you've got a guy going, oh, what's with the axe? Are we compensating whilst a demon is eyeballing him constantly? Not a great combination for someone who has the butcher's nails implanted, heightened aggression and anger, and was recently basically dead until his own brothers tried to kill him once and for all.

Yeah, that seems like a rest of. for everybody dying. Yeah, pretty much. The demon told Khan that he could see the threads of many different futures, some strong and definitive, and some that unraveled before him. But regardless of the future, the demon called him by one name only, which was Betrayer. The meeting came to a relatively quick end after Khan made it very clear to the emissary that their legions would never ally and never be friends.

In a moment... In a moment reminiscent to the below picture, the emissary says, you would lead all legions to war equerry, and I'm trying to... Oh, no, I can't do it, hang on. Oh, oh, oh. Are we getting an epic embed failure?

Are we going to laugh at this user? We're 100% getting an embed failure because I've got a picture in this script that I can't copy-paste. Oh no Curia! Oh Yeah, just clip it.

Print screen, man. Print screen more often, man. I know. It's bad, isn't it? You know, I have a 70% keyboard. I don't have a print screen button. I have to use the actual, like, clipping tool. It worked in the end.

Ah, the quote from man stabbed me. God, got it. Yeah. I've never seen this one. I like it. Quote from man stabbed. What are you going to do? Stab me?

Well? The answer was... Yes. I was watching... I was watching Zodiac yesterday, and I was like... They kind of made me think of this a little bit. Like the Zodiac Killer documentary movie?

Yeah, the movie, the one with Jake Jelen Haller, I'm Danny Jr. Mark Ruffalo. Oh, that's not a terrible counselor, actually. Very good movie. Very good. David Fincher. Yeah.

Pretty good. Okay. Carn was in it, actually. Now, if you think the reference to that screenshot is a joke, the final line of the meeting, as stated by Drager is as follows, nothing unifies like a war he breathed. Then everyone started shooting.

That's it. It worked. That sounds 40K. Yeah. So this is the point at which Kahn officially, becomes the betrayer. So the world of Scalithrax is a world with a very difficult to maintain climate. So the battles between the Empress Children and the World Eaters had to be put on temporary hold when night rolled round because it was deathly cold. Even though the Empress Children had the numbers,

the World Eaters had more raw fury and they were slowly picking away at their lines one by one. And it was inevitably going to be a big win for the World Eaters. But this whole like clocking out for half the day thing was not something that Kahn cared for. He did not like this. Victory was close, but it needed to happen much faster.

The nails demanded more killing. So one night, retroactively called the Night of Madness by the World Eaters, Kahn decided to pick up a flamer and turned his legion into Kani Asada. God damn awesome.

Awesome. No. possum. I don't understand. I don't understand the reference. Karni Asada, you know, the food? Yeah. Oh, oh, right. Sorry. Yeah. So I had Mexican food in England and it was so bad. Carnia, carnaissance. Oh, yeah, you definitely shouldn't do that. Yeah, it was not good. Carnia asada is a, like a steak type thing. It's like a chopped up steak. It's very, very commonly used. Play grilled, right? Yeah, Carni Asada is the Spanish pronunciation.

I see. Okay. It is very good. It is phenomenal. Very common in, I think it's the main thing used in anything like California. Like if you have like a California burrito, for example, it's carneasada, avocado, things like that. Yep. And French fries.

Okay. Yeah, French fries is enough for some reason. But I shouldn't get it in my own country. Yeah, no, no, it's sucked down. Yeah, sorry. Listen, man, one day when Adrick becomes the most popular podcast in the world, we'll fly you over here and then you can have Carnie Asada. And then we'll send you right back. Yeah, just for that one meal.

Then I'll go straight back home. When we have our own studio building, right? Yeah, we'll fly you out. Yeah, definitely. Also, this is the part that I remember. I don't remember what Carn episode we did before, but I was like, When is he going to get to the part with the flamers? When is he going to get to the part with the flamers?

Yeah, the flamers is the one I remember the most. Yeah. 40K has really had a big impact on you, isn't it, TK? Sure has, bro. When's you going to start birthing people? When's it going to happen? The flamers, the flameers, the heavy flamers, brother. Please.

So, yeah, Kahn picks up a flamer, and then just goes through all the encampments, screaming, setting everything on fire, igniting all the huts and show. shelters that the World Eater slept in and destroyed their cover as a means to violently encourage the Legion to wake up and get right into battle. This resulted in a bunch of World Eaters burning to death, obviously, but it did also result in them rushing towards the sleeping Empress children completely on fire, and anyone that attempted to stop him was torn in half, presumably whilst also being on fire. That's my guess, anyway.

So, due to Khan just succumbing fully to the nails and the extreme amount of blood in a short amount of time, blood spilled from both World Eaters and Empress Children, the forces on the planet fell into a cornate blood rage that resulted in the World Eaters on the planet, tearing one another apart. This rage was so strong that it even impacted those nowhere near the flames. Those who would not fully succumb to the blood rage, fled to. of the planet to retain some semblance of a legion, but an incredible amount were lost,

either by the violence or by the horrible cold that they're experiencing. Because of that, the World Eaters were fragmented and scattered, destined to be a warband-based fragment of their former selves, and all of this was due to the actions of Khan during one evening of blind madness, where the man once heralded as the potential

savior of his legion tore them apart from the inside out. Kahn had betrayed his legion and his betrayal became synonymous with his name. Bad times. Bad times. Nails emoji sleigh. Yeah. Korn must have been so proud, though. Like, he must have been just like a proud Papa watching this.

Like, just like a dribble of like molten lava tears coming down his face. Like, that's my boy. That's my boy. So that's a question. That's a thought process. I'm a little curious about. Like, would corn like that? Because, like, betrayal is not what I would call, you know, like, that's not a very corn thing.

Murdering anybody is a corn thing. But betrayal is not a corn thing. I guess that's kind of true. but like there's just so much bloodshed and there's so much battle and there's so much chaos and there's so much other stuff that he is such a big fan of

I tend to think I tend to think he'd be pretty happy about it I guess maybe it's a determination like he's like well I'm not a big fan of the betraying part but I do really like the wholesale murder part and so maybe it's

just like like you know the best the better of two evils, I guess. Yeah. And like she said, betrayal wasn't the goal, right? He just wanted the fighting to start again. It wasn't necessarily him going,

I'm going to really screw over my guys. It was more just, they need to get out there and fight. Oh, no, a bunch of them have burned to death. Well, that's a shame. Well, I mean, he didn't think that's a shame. He didn't think anything. But, you know, like, I think probably intent matters to some extent, maybe.

Orn Al-Han just really likes Khan So he's like Well, it's not what I'd have done But I'll let it slide for now Because look at all this blood Yeah, look at what you've did Betrayal's a very Zinchean thing

But maybe he's like Oh well, if you're betraying for the wholesale murder of everybody Then yeah, all right, that's fine We can betray that way, it's cool I'll give you this one Don't make a habit of it But for this time I'll let it slide

After all of that Khan is very active in the setting of today despite his unwillingness to unify the world eaters, he has amassed a pretty large following, for reasons unclear besides, you know, mass killing. The butcher horde stalked through the galaxy, relentlessly killing anything in their wake. He, of course, was planet-side during the fall of Cadia

and led a massive front against literally anything and everything in his path. More recently, though, Kahn has decided to raise the stakes of his kill count for Korn and has been going after Imperial Saint directly. For example, he rushed to the planet of Sardreca, which was a victim of the blackness, and was holding on by a thread anyways, because of the presence of St. Celestine.

He won V. Wanda, which ended up when he managed to rip her wings off and decapitator. So about times for Celestine on that one. Then he made his way to the shrine world of Salondraxis to face St. Lozapath, where he crushed him with a massive statue of the emperor and ripped his head off. Big thing for taking the head off. Understandable, you know, the whole schools thing.

Yeah. That is such a good art. Oh my God. Yeah. How? It's mad. I love it. They really up the scale of the chain axes in their art, don't they?

They get bigger. The chain axes and the helmets get bigger with every subsequent piece of world eater art. Like, I think I'm just still too used to the same. size of them in Dark Tide where they're literally just handheld because you're just, you know, you're not a space screen in that game. And so I'm like, oh yeah, that's a chain axe. And it's like, no, that's a chain axe. I can never not like this art because the full version of the art has just my two favorite things. Thing one, Angron in the back left. That wasn't the full art. Being enormous. And also

Jeff from accounting, also known as Axie McAx face on the left with the giant. I an axe just in the face. What is that creature? What is that cultist? Right. I think I remember you showing me this picture. You're like, oh, yeah, that's Angron in the back. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

That's just smoke back there. You're like, no idiot look. And I was like, oh, shit, that is Angron back there. Yeah, that's Angron there. And like, what is up with Jeff from accounting? Like, it's just, there's no room for the internal organs in that face. It's just all axe. It's all acts all the time.

That's such a good picture. Oh my God. Axi-Mcax face. Like, it's so bizarre looking. And it's not just the fact it's an axe. The scale of it. The size of it is insane compared to the size of the dude.

It's just mad. Man, you thought Corn had a hard time getting through doors with his helmet. Like, imagine that. He can't walk through a single door. It's got to be a double door every time. No, he's walking like Patrick when he has the board nailed to his head and he keeps running into the wall. I've seen that one.

I get your SpongeBob reference. I've seen that give. Oh, thank God. It finally happened. Okay. To finish off, we've got to talk about Khan's armory. And when I say armory, I mean the one notable bit of Wargiri has. Because let's face it, he's got most of his power armor.

It's missing an arm because he wants to show off the incredibly ripped bicep. He's also got the helmet. He thought that it was going to be that joke. It's like, oh yeah, that one ripped arm. That's all he's got. That's all he needs. Armory. That's all he needs.

He's got the helmet. Obviously, he has to duck to go through doorways. Plasma pistol. Classic. He used it to shoot Angron in the face, which is still one of my favorite things. But, but. The main thing, the main thing about Khan when it comes to his weapons and his equipment in general, is that he's a big fan of the usage of chain axes instead of chain swords. They're more archaic and difficult to handle, but Khan's comfort level with them makes them essentially an extension of his own rage.

Very early on in the Great Crusade, Khan carried with him a chain axe called the cutter, which, I mean, come on. the boat out name-wise. It's not the most inventive thing you've ever heard. Nah, it's world years. It's perfect. It's exactly. It really is. What does it do? Well, not much is known about that.

Yeah. Stand still. Not much is known about it other than the fact that it was ultimately replaced with his most well-known weapon, which is Gore-child. So Gore-child and its twin weapon,

Gore-father, were wielded by Angron. Gore-child was nearly destroyed after Angron used it to dig his way out of a collapsed structure, and Khan took it upon himself to preserve the weapon and rebuild it to its former glory. The engine on the axe is quote-unquote gore-fueled and is oiled. I'm sure it's some kind of like machine spirit type thing, you know? Oh, definitely, sure. And is oiled by the blood of those he killed. and the leather on the grip of the chain axe

is leather made from the flayed skin of the cowardly. Oh, cool. Specifically the cowardly. Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. I vaguely remember something like, doesn't Angron think it's stupid that he like refurbished Gorgell or something?

Like he thinks like, oh, that's a broken axe, you idiot. Don't use that. You're stupid or something like that. There's a whole thing in Betrayer, where it's like... Hold on, Kierreoth. I want to guess on this one, because I actually have the same question, but I actually want to guess because I'm not 100% sure, and I want you to confirm it if possible. Isn't it like a thing where, like, once a weapon has been, like, used up and utilized, like, it's in respect for the weapon to, like, put it aside? Pretty much. It's effectively like a discarded weapon you shouldn't pick up and use again. It's done. Which is fine in principle, but I think it is in betrayal. In practice, it's pointing. out that if you get disarmed whilst fighting, do you punch your way out or do you pick up a weapon

and start hitting people with it? And of course, in practice, it's more likely you're going to pick up a sword and start stabbing as opposed to going, well, I'm out. There's no free weapons here because they've all been used. So, you know, just I'll go back, resupply, then come and carry on fighting. Like it's, it's kind of like an honest. thing and a Warriors Code thing, but not actually really all that practical for fighting. So as a practice, it's like, in theory, this is what we do. When it comes down to it, you're going to pick your blade back up and hope that it does the job because it's that or die.

So, yeah. But yeah, that is the man. That is Khan, the man, the myth, the betrayer. The betrayer. lunatic, the betrayer. I love it. He's great. I love that on his helmet, it's just xenomorph-claw

scars left by an unworthy, and now deceased, enemy. Love that you. Just make sure to point that a little bit out. Like, oh yeah, some bitch xenomorph did this. It's dead now, but I guess it's still on my helmet. Let's point it out. Yeah. That and the

cornate fetishes of rage, the skulls of minor beings killed out of cruelty. out of crude out of the quality yeah the descriptions on like the armor for like some of the chaos stuff

is some of the funniest stuff because it's trying so hard to be like oh it's chaos but it's like it almost comes across it's like just comical and it's just it's always fun to read those yeah

100% it's just so goofy it does also it does also show there's a bit of like sentimentality there where car I mean, Khan could have just got another chain axe and called it The Cutter 2 or whatever.

But instead, no. No, we've got to find Dad's chain axe, find all the teeth to it, and have it reforged, and good as new. He didn't need to do that, but he did. It shows that he is, like Shai said, he's a little more sentimental than he likes to put on, yeah. He's a lovely complex character, sometimes. Sort of. Sometimes. Sometimes.

We return back to the bell curve. Yeah. Wait, what's this? I hate his plasma pistol slander. I think his double-barrel plasma's little warp fiend casing is badass. Wait, I think it's badass, too. Who said that it looks stupid? It does look cool, actually, yeah.

Yeah, to be fair. Usually the chaos space room weapons are a lot cooler, and they're just more weirdly designed than just, you know. Also, it's got the old. Oh, that's all that? Oh, Oh, Kiroath. This is your fault, apparently.

You said no one is anything but his axe. Which, like, okay, I get what you're saying, but the Paz-a-Pustle is cool. My only issue with it is that it's not named. If you literally have Karn on the tabletop, he has gore-child, Gore-Chile, right? Yep, yeah. Yeah, I was presumably because there's also like Gore-O-Other. There's so much gore.

You've got Gore-child, his weapon, and then, see, Okay, mm-hmm, Mm-hmm. It's a little anger here. Damn, what a cool mini. Oh shit. It's Hotsunay-M-Ku.

The nails are biting. Ugh, gr. The, Oh, wow, it is Hatsunei-Miku. I didn't even see that until you said it. Getting a little pissed off here,

because in the Warhammer index, in 10th edition, you know, like, listen, I like my 10th edition. It plays, it plays well,

but the flavor, they're killing it. We're losing it. In the index, or sorry, currently in the new codex, Karn has plasma pistol. And plasma pistol supercharge, that's hazardous. In the index, I'm pretty positive.

It was called Karn's plasma pistol, which is also dumb because it should have a name, but it's like it was Karn's plasma pistol, not just plaza pistol, and it didn't have hazardous because it's him and he's that guy. And they removed it and made it a generic plasma pistol. And I'm a little pissed.

That is. That is dumb. It shouldn't have hazardous. I mean, oh, what could you call it? Angron's blindness. I don't know.

Engron's missing an eye. What does having hazardous mean, by the way, for those of us that are cheated in? You can blow up in your face. Yeah. Ah, I see. Okay.

Carn on the tabletop, I don't quite know how good he is or anything because of world eaters, a new codex. But he, I mean, he's neat. The unit he's leading

gets re-roll hits of one and re-roll wounds of one. But the big thing is that at the, he also revives if he dies because he's so tough. Him. He's him. The betrayer thing is at the end of the charge phase, if he's not within engagement range. So, you know, end of the charge phase,

if he's not hating something or in engaging range with someone, you have to take a leadership test. And if you fail the leadership test, one of your bodyguard models and your unit dies, because he kills him, which is kind of fun, but I don't know. They could do a little better than that. Yeah. I mean, it does suitably fit the way Karn is portrayed is like, oh, we need to start

fighting. I will kill my own people type of thing. So it's kind of cool that it's, you know, lower accurate. Yeah. No, I mean, that part's like fine, but I don't know if he's good or not or anything, but he's fine. I mean, at least he has Gorschal as the male weapon and it has eight. attacks. So that's funny.

I like that. I love it. But yeah, I'm getting, I'm getting a little, I'm wagging my finger at you games workshop. I'm wagging my finger at you. You really need to. Can you, this is only, it's related. It's corn related. So it's fine. Can you remember how many points the Lord of Skulls costs at the moment? For CSM or for, um, uh, world leaders? for World Eaters 505.

Lord of Sculls is the big tank thing with all the Yeah, it's the really stupid one that I love Because for a while there That was 888 points And I loved it And it was bad and no one used it Because why would you?

Yeah, I mean The points value was spot on The points values in 40K now Are in decibels of five So they just don't do that anymore but also 888 points is over a third of your army and it's not good enough for that. Yeah, it's such cheap.

It was terrible. But it was a Lord of Schools. It was called and it was 888. 8.8. Oh, yeah. That's true. Yeah, he bodied Salisdine so he should be able to kill a 1v1 on the tabletop. Is it accurate?

Oh, yeah, I mean, he could probably kill. Well, Cairn's weird. Celstein, okay, here's the problem. Selstein is like, Well, there's the miracle dice. Celestein also comes with two bodyguards. And Celestein is also like 200 points or something. And Carn is 85.

Sorry, Celestine is 160. And Carn is 85 points. Granted, in melee combat, like, if it's like, all right, Celestine versus Carn, I think most likely Celestine, I think will most likely kill Carn or like, there's a 50-50 chance of her killing Carn. and then Karn will kill Celestein like three times over. But in the world of 40K, you or in the tabletop,

it's who charges who first type shit, you know? And then you have your bodyguard models in there, and then, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, blah, yeah. We need a myth busters episode where it's classic engagements from the books, but then using units from the tabletop, who would win?

And I bet most of the, them are inconclusive. I mean, for the most part, I know Aspect's tactics does some stuff like that, and the most part, it comes down to, you know, random. Randomly weird. Your dice rolls and, yeah, yeah.

Angron versus Titan. I mean, I'm pretty sure Angron, like, besides like a Titan or slang, like Canis Rex or something, I'm pretty sure Angron by himself does the most damage of any singular model in the game. It's eight attacks at strength 14 AP3, D6 plus two damage with dev wounds, which is very, as it should be hard.

Yeah, as it should be. Yeah, it's Angron. Like, he should be hitting like a truck, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he tends to. I don't know. I'm, the more I play magic, the more I'm like, damn, the fluff and flavor that is available in magic to do funny and weird things really needs to be attributed to 40K stuff. It really needs to be. I need to cut my hand and for every drop of blood is every

corn roll I get to have on the table top. Oh wait, you want to go first edition AOS then? That's what you're after. No, I'm after the ability to do weirder things. I'm turning into a fluff enjoyer. I've always been a fluff enjoyer. I just like a functional game. Seventh was not functional. Seventh was fluff, but it was not function. Now the game is functioning, and now there's

not enough fluff. There's a tug of war here. We need more. Yeah, they need to find that perfect balance of having a functional game that still keeps some of the funny little fluff in the narrative stuff, right? I've said it a million times. Chaos Space Marine Dark Packs? Incredible. Perfect.

Phenomenal rule. custodians, Marshall Catas, dog shit, terrible. Absolute worst thing I've ever seen in my life. We can do both. God damn it. That's the campaign slogan. We can do both.

We can. We can do both. When magic has stupid things like Roll a D20, you know 40K can do that. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, anyway,

I'm done. I'll rant about it again some other day, but And the butcher's nails Quiet in Bricky's head And the butcher's nails relax Good Lord All right Karn

What a legend He's the guy I thought you were going to end the episode With just a very calm Karn Do do do do do do Yeah, that's actually a good idea Hold on

Kahn He's him