Adeptus Ridiculous - LEMAN RUSS: THE WOLF-KING | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:14 The Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky and, ooh, grim dark. But before we get into that, if you enjoy today's episode and you maybe want to support the podcast, heading over to patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous, where you can get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen. The $15 tier gets you access to all of our crispy posters in HD digital format. And, ooh, Bricky, guess what?
Starting point is 00:00:43 new poster. The January poster. The first of the brand new year. The first of 2024. Are you ready for the new poster? I don't know because I can't ever judge your tone anymore. You've gone every direction with every kind of poster. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:05 You'll love it. You'll like it. You might not love it, but you will enjoy it. It's a bricky forward poster. Yes. All right. All right, let's see it, Shai. Give him the business.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Let's see this bricky forward poster. Oh, that is a bricky forward poster. Yeah, it's the guard. That's pretty good. I forget which regiment it is, though. Shy told me, I don't remember. Tempestisions. Ah, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Those are pretty good. All I remember is there were like two variants. One was helmeted. One had a hat. And so there's one with the helmet, one with the hat. And it's good. It's great art. I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:43 think it's great looking. I think that's fantastic. I love the Sions. They're one of my favorite units. They're really just cool looking. They got the gas masks are awesome. I like the brays they wear a lot. That's that's good. You know what? I'm happy with that. Bricky forward poster. Bricky forward poster. And you, a viewer, can purchase this poster now at Orchidate.com. link in the description. Check it out. It is under the ad rick section for the posters. Wahhoo, brand new poster.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You should purchase this poster now. Now. Mods, buy this poster. Buy this poster. Which means, Shad, the next poster needs to be like ultra-cursed. We've given a Bricky Forward poster. The next one needs to be like Brickie's nightmare incarnate. So it needs to be just the most anime Uwu-woo thing ever.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Naturally, with life, one must give and take. It's a balance. You cannot have light without dark, right? Ah, the Alan Wake. Oh, is that an Alan Wake thing? I mean, isn't that kind of the whole point of the first game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alan Wake.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You haven't played the second one yet, though, right? Not yet. But you played the DLC, so you know who Mr. Scratchie. right? I played the American Nightmare spin-off game with Mr. Scratch. I did not, and I was very confused in Allen Wake 2 for a little bit. But anyway, we're sidetracking. We're sidetracking a little bit.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It is. One last thing on that, though. Do not play American Nightmare. It is dog shit. Well, I guess I'm glad I skipped it. It is awful. Oh, my God. It's like a two out of ten. Genuinely, it's terrible. Anyway, all right.
Starting point is 00:03:37 All right. Yeah. Okay. So, got ourselves. We got ourselves. It's a big one, right? It's a big one. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It's a big one. It is a big one. I got to be honest. There's not a lot of quotes on, yes. Okay. So, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't you dare.
Starting point is 00:04:03 What? The issue that we run into here is, that the quotes for this particular topic are they're too obvious. Uh-huh. Even for me? Oh, yeah. Oh. And that's, that's the hardest.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It's the space wolves! He got it. Let's go! Did I really? Is it actually the space wolves? Exactly. Let's go. Well, you didn't quite get it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, it's Lehman. It's Lehman Rusk. Oh, right. It would be Lehman Russ first, and then it would be the space. base wolves, right, right, because that's how we do it. That's fair. That's fair. Every quote I had had the word wolf, wolf king, Lehman, or Russ in it.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So I could think of me. Maybe, maybe. Yeah, that was a little obvious if all of them have Lehman, Russ, or Wolf in them. Fair enough. Fair enough. Which, like, makes a lot of sense when you realize that Lehman Russ is known as all kinds of names, mostly involving the Wolf King, the Great Wolf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 the Lord of Winter and War, etc. Yeah. So, little hard to have thrown out a solid quote, all things considered. But yes, I guess I think we should still talk this up as a point for D.K. Shai. What? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I should get a point for that, considering I just threw it out into the ether, just thinking like, oh, it's a big episode. Surely it's got to be one of the chapters we haven't covered. And that's, I guess, Space Wolves and the thousands. sons? I think the last two. I don't think we're missing any after those. Yeah. Random
Starting point is 00:05:42 guest doesn't count. All right, she's just... You know I give me the credits. You get a point. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Nice. It's like a gold star, but shy like like fucking smudged it. Oh. Yeah, half of it is like ripped off and broken and doesn't stick
Starting point is 00:05:58 anymore. Yeah, yeah. It's like a bad gold star. Yeah. Anyway, yes, Lehman Russ. The Wolf King himself, the Emperor's Executioner also known. Yeah, a very single-minded man
Starting point is 00:06:14 from what I've heard. So that's a great point to start this thing off, is this episode's, so I knew a good bit about Russ, often through the through osmosis with a lot of the other
Starting point is 00:06:30 primarks and various 40K lore. Space wolves are absolutely a a decently popular faction. I know many of people that have space wolf space wolf armies and, you know, for the most part,
Starting point is 00:06:47 they are, they're pretty, they're pretty solid. They're wolf Vikings. They're wolf Vikings. I mean, they're Vikings first before their wolf stuff. But they're called space wolves. Come on.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I mean, well, the horse is, horse was the Luna wolves. True. But he's also a traitor. He's a filthy traitor. He is a filthy traitor. But it is a little interesting learning and reading up even more about Lehman Rus. Does he have a book?
Starting point is 00:07:21 Like an actual, like a personal Primark book? Yeah, like a Primark book. So it depends on what you're referring to by Primark Book. Because a lot of the Primarks have Primark books. this one would be Wolf's Bain because of course Oh, that makes sense, yeah, yeah. But this, these Primark books are not necessarily like primark raising books.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Oh, it's like something important they did after they became a Primark and just kind of. It's like, um, how I say, like so Per Chirabo, for example, he had a book that bounced between his younger life and his older life and it gave him a crap a little more lore. You had Alfarious's book, you know, from what we can take in truth with that one. Yeah. And this one is a lot like Dorn's book, Praetorian of Terra, whatever, which is mainly like heresy stuff. Yeah, not upbringing just what they were doing during, or right before the heresy and during the heresy. And like, they're still bouncing around, don't get me wrong, but it's more like, Like, like, Fulgrim is often centered around Fulgrim,
Starting point is 00:08:35 and there's a lot less of, like, his time on Feneres. Right. Fulgrim would be, um, crap, what the hell is Fulgram's home planet? Whatever his home planet is. It's not important right now. Yeah, but it would be Feneres for, for Lillen-Russ. So, so yes, but no.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Okay. So, in fact, his doing the research for, for Lehman Russ, as I've mentioned to our viewers many a times, is that the Primark episodes are not to cover every deed that they've done because, oh, my God, it is to cover, it's a lot. It's to cover the understanding of the character. Like, I want you to leave here, really, really getting, Leon. Not every little minutia of their life, but just you have a firm understanding of what the Primark is about. And that created an interesting challenge to this episode,
Starting point is 00:09:32 because Lehman did not take long to research. Oh, really? I imagine his research is a lot of, oh, the emperor sent him to kill someone, and then he did. Well, that's a lot of his deeds, yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lehman is a simple man.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Now, we can't confuse simple with being, like, dull or non-combole. complex. Yeah. Lehman has intrigue. He has very, like, interesting parts about him and, and very fascinating character quirks. Um, so, like, yeah, memes aside, he's not like a moron. Oh, yeah, certainly.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. Um, well, no Primark is. Right. No, but, uh, he's not like the, the dim-witted, uh, I just want to drink and kill guy. Right, right. I don't know if you got to the part in, um, Son of the Forest yet where they were kind of describing
Starting point is 00:10:36 Prim marks and they were like, yeah, the greatest human in history might, in their preferred field, that they have been studying their whole life and that they are masterful at, may one day
Starting point is 00:10:51 reach the knowledge level of a primark in a field the primark didn't care about. And I was like, oh, so yeah, primarks are They're not stupid, regardless of if they're like the prime mark of war or the prime mark of drinking or whatever. They're still like upper echelon.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Right. And so that's the, that was the biggest challenge here was to describe Lehman Russ in a way that had, they had everyone understand him as a person, despite him very much saying what he is on the tin, but like also trying to get down to the minutia. So anyway, let's go ahead and get into his history. Let's do it. So, Lehman Rus, primark of the space wolf, son of the emperor, space wolves being the sixth legion. I actually didn't write this down. I'm trying to remember if I'm just correct. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm pretty sure it's the sixth legion. Google, Google, Google, Google. Hey, Siri, what Legion are the Space Wolves? Oh, yeah, I was right. Hell yeah. I didn't think I would need it, but I nailed it. Oh, man. Siri didn't give me shit.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Wow, how dare she? But yes, Primark of the Sixth Legion, he, like all the other Primarks, was yeaded across the galaxy after the entire Primark project and the emperor had to go find him, yada, yada. He was dropped on Fenris,
Starting point is 00:12:26 a extraordinarily cold, I don't know if we would call Fenris a death word, old. I'm not quite sure if it's classified as a death world. Wow, that is a half white planet. Also, appropriate name for the, for the prime mark of the space wolves to land on Fenris. Little on the nose, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It's 40K. Oh, this time, like, this might be the most on the nose of the ball. As far as, as far as things go, this might be the most on the nose episode. we have. It's pretty, it's something. But yes, it's a feral world and a death world.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Those are its two options. So very, very low technology and also death world. Yeah, it's no cation, but the, the temperatures are definitely one of the biggest aspects. Still no fun. No fun place to land. Yeah. So Lehman gets yeated onto this world and he, he is found by a very deadly.
Starting point is 00:13:34 mother thunder wolf Oh And instead of killing him The wolf raises him As one of her own Oh wow He is literally raised by wolves
Starting point is 00:13:49 I did a double take When I first read this And I was like You've got to be shitting me No freaking way So Liam and Russ Leader of the Space Wolves Literally raised by wolves
Starting point is 00:14:02 He was literally raised by wolves He was literally raised by wolves for a good portion of his childhood. Okay, okay. Are thunderwolves just like really big wolves or something? They're basically an offshoot of wolves from, of terran wolves that are on this planet, except they're just enormous. So like a dire wolf? Yeah, but like quadruple the size of a dire wolf because. That's a, that's a Princess Mononoque wolf.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I mean, yeah, kind of, a little bit. Yeah, sometimes. All right. Depends on the sides of the wolf. This is the death world after all. Sure, sure. So he was raised by these wolves and also had two particular brother wolves. Their names escape me right now.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But I think I actually have it here. It's definitely from Norse mythology side. Here it is. Frecky and Gary? Gary? G-E-R-I. Maybe it was a giddy or something. Oh, Gary.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Gary. No, I don't know how to describe it, but they're... All right, all right, all right. The Wolf, the Wolfkins of Russ, his brothers growing up, so to speak. One is the brown one in the background of that photo, and then there's the white furred one in the front. Okay, okay, okay. I'm surprised we didn't get like a Scotty or something. I mean, to kind of explain how big they are, here are their minis.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Whoa! That's a space marine right there, so, like, they're pretty... They're pretty chunky, dude. Geez, they're like the size of a small tank. Yeah, they're really big. Nice. I love a giant wolf. I got to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They're very cool. So he was raised alongside these wolves and went and go pillaging for wolves and the like, or wolves, pillaging for food for the wolves and all. And eventually a group of hunters and folk found them and began, you know, murdering them with poison arrows and all kinds of other stuff because they're giant wolves and that's what people do. Sure, sure. I mean, you know, they'd probably eat you if you didn't.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, so Lehman Russ pissed off, killed about a dozen of them with his hands because he was a feral wolf boy. A feral wolf primark boy. And especially because they also killed the mom wolf that he was raised by. So rest in peace, mom wolf. Oh, poor mama.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But eventually after a dozen or so them died. A lot of them like, wait a second. Wait a second, that's a kid. Wait a minute. That's no wolf. That's no moon. What the hell? And so they stopped attacking them and escorted both Lehman and his two Wolf brothers back to the camp, kind of, you know, carefully, but to be like, hey, with what the hell? And yeah, yeah, definitely want to give them a wide, birth when you're walking them into town. I would have liked if this whole opening thing did get a bit more fleshed out, but at the moment we don't have a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Basically, eventually, they welcomed them into the tribe of Russ. That's the name of the tribe. It's the Russ tribe. And they went to go meet the king. King, Thengir of the Russ. And the king, despite the objections of some of his court, took mercy on him as a boy and sought to train him for his useful potential despite the objections. I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Like, if you can train him to actually like humans and serve humans, there's no reason not to. You saw what he can do. I mean, better to have him on your side than against, without a doubt. And then you get all his wolves. Yeah, and then, you get the wolves, but then you also got to remember like, hey, this kid is out and, like, living in the wild and it's like negative 100 out here in Fenris sometimes or whatever like it is it is inhospitable in a lot of ways yeah and he's just out there with loincloths I guess or like pelts I don't really know because like if he had a pelt then they would assume he's skin to the wolves so
Starting point is 00:18:17 I don't really know exactly well you know maybe one of the wolves died of natural causes waste not want not and you know ah here's a great thing I want to read Shai's description of Fenris? Sure. During the summer months, volcanoes erupt, burning great ashes with lava flows and churning the seas, spreading great floods and tidal waves. As the planet enters its long winter, the temperature drops so far that most of it actually icees over, giving the planet the appearance of a snowball from orbit. Oh, that's, uh, that's chilly. That's, uh, death world. Death World.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Woo! So, in classic Primark fashion, Lehman was learned things really quickly. He learned to speak really fast because he's a Primark. He became their best fighter by far because he's a Primark. Sure. And he was given the name Lehman. So he was Lehman of the Russ. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Lehman of the Russ. Yeah. Of the Rus' name. Yeah. Exactly. So eventually King Thing Gear passed away. natural reasons, and he was then elevated to the title of king, of wolf king of the Russ tribe. In classic primark fashion, he ruled extremely well.
Starting point is 00:19:39 He brokered a piece between man and wolf, which was kind of baller. Yeah, that's sick. Truly the wolf king. Truly the wolf king, but between his upbringing with the wolves and now his primark intelligence, the wolves and the humans lived mostly in harmony, which is pretty, pretty impressive, all things considered. Yeah, that'd be a pretty dope place to live where, like, humans and wolves just, like, coexist,
Starting point is 00:20:04 and they're just kind of, like, you have your own little wolf familiar with you? I guess not really a familiar, but little wolf friends. That's cool. Yeah. And they're often utilized a lot in the tabletop. You can actually just run just wolves. Not your entire army isn't all wolves,
Starting point is 00:20:22 but, like, you can run units of, like, 10 packs of wolves. Oh, there, you, oh, you can, have space marines that are riding wolves? I just saw that picture that Chai posted. That's... Thunderwolf cavalry is what they're called. That's pretty cool, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Thunderwolf cavalry are actually one of the more popular units in the space wolves for clearly obvious reasons. Oh yeah. If I was running space wolves, I would have a ton of the wolf riders.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Absolutely. Yeah, they're really, really fun. And, you know, they have those wolves, but they also have just like thunder wolves, which are just the wolves by themselves. Yep. And that's fun. Malling the space marie. Yeah, Fenrisian wolves just on their own, running around, jumping on things. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Very cool. I got to say, I'm digging the space wolves more and more as this goes on. So one important thing, oh yeah, a lot of the wolves do have cybernetic enhancements because they've been injured in battle. It's kind of neat. Oh, sick. Yeah. Oh, cyborg wolves, let's go. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:21:35 We'll get more into this in the actual... Space Wolf's episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's neat. Actually, well, here's an important thing. A lot of the tales of Lehman Russe's early life are written by Narl the Elder, which is basically just this person who kind of wrote down a bunch of old-school sagas. So space wolves as a faction are all about stories, much like Norse mythology is.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I was going to say that sounds like a very Viking thing. One might also say it's a little gnarly. Leon Russ would kill you for that. Yep. Well, that would not be the first offense he would kill me for. I am sure if I talk to Lehman Russ, he would just, yeah. Actually, you know what? Maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:27 He might not kill you for that, but he would genuinely be upset. He would bitch slap my face so hard. Like my skin would just, yeah, yeah. But a lot of the whole idea of the space wolves are all about their sagas.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It's about creating a story of legend, of deed. So a lot, like even in game, the space wolf special ability is called deeds worthy of saga. And so it's all, it's all about like doing, if you do like really crazy things in game, you get buffs.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And so that's the whole idea is you're building up your saga. Ah, okay. Yeah, very, very on the nose Norse mythology. But I like it. That's cool. Like, Norse mythology has always been like super interesting and, and I kind of love that honorable saga so you can get into Valhalla or your name will be remembered in song for all of eternity until Ragnarok or something, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:26 I love that. That's cool. The, and, and so a lot of Lehman Russ's early times are told in that oral style, you know, transferred from person to person. And so it was talked a lot about like how he would turn back whole armies by himself. He would wrestle Ben Rizzian mammoths and then cook it that evening and eat it. Lifting entire trees from the ground. You know, just crazy stories of Lehman, which like. Some of those I could totally believe, because he's a goddamn primark. He's a primark, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mean, imagine an exaggerated story about a primark, like, as if they weren't already, like, superhuman. Ironically, though, if anyone was to exaggerate the stories of themselves, it would be Lehman Rus. If anyone, so we read Lions on the Forest, and they have, like, Kai, one of the risen Dark Angels. And he always talks about how he was like, well, I would have defeated them all with my superior bladesmanship. Kind of like taking the piss out of himself. Yep, yep, yep, yep. That was their dynamic. He was, uh, he would exaggerate and then his friend would bring him back down to earth.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And look at our little friend group. So because of that, Lehman is kind of that way where he'll talk himself up in this really boastful, bombastic way, kind of knowing full well, he's full of shit. But he just really likes it. But then if you challenge him, he might have been exaggerating, but he can back it up. Well, yeah, because he's leaving Ross. So it's not like you're going to step to him and be like, oh, Lehman Rush, you're full of shit. And he's like, really? Try me.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But basically. So, for example, when the emperor arrived, because he heard of these crazy deeds and he's like, that sounds like my son, he arrived in his own little cloak. and feel that made him look like just a regular old plain robed figure. Though everyone else who were sober in the hall, as well as the wolves kind of shrunk away from his presence, because he's the emperor. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And Lehman there, of course, never to be one without a challenge. Just kind of laughed when he arrived. I thought you were going to say, and Lehman, never one to be sober. Well, there's that too, but. Basically, they were to have a contest upon each other. And if the stranger were to lose, then Lehman Rus would have the stranger serve at his side for a year. If the stranger was to win, then he would simply sit at the Wolf King's right hand during the feast and drink with him.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Oh, wow. So everything for Russ to win. Pretty much. But the contest, of course, was chosen by Lehman. He gets to pick. So the first one was an eating contest. Naturally. Of course.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Of course the Wolf King wants an eating contest, sure. So the emperor ate more than any other man anyone has ever seen. And by the time the emperor finished his food, he looked up and Russ had consumed three times his food. Whoa! So, Lehman, point one. Dang! Lehman's a honky boy!
Starting point is 00:27:02 The second contest was a drinking contest in which, after the emperor's sixth barrel of Fenrisian Mead, there was no more alcohol to drink, because Russ had drank the rest of the feast, already. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So, point two to Lehman. After his sixth barrel. Jeez, all right. So point two to Lehman. Okay. And then after this, the emperor got really pissed off. And he was like, you are nothing more than a drunkard and a glutton just doing, just stuffing your face. So the final challenge was a trial.
Starting point is 00:27:53 by combat in which the emperor was like, man, fuck this. And he took off his entire disguise showing himself and punched Lehman so goddamn hard with his glove that it knocked him unconscious. That is so, so technically, two of the three, in a two out of three battle against the emperor, Lehman Russ won. He won two points to one, right? Yeah, he did. But he beat the emperor.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Then he got his ass kicked. And then... Yeah, for being a drunken glutton. And so that is great. Oh my God. It's very Lehman. And so he woke up with blood in his mouth and a broken fang and he was like, all right. And then he swore feal to the emperor with a smug grin on his face.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You know, I got to be honest. I've talked a lot of shit about Lehman Russ since I initially was a big Thousand Suns fan. but the more I'm hearing, the more I'm really starting to warm up to Lehman Russ. He's kind of a shitter. A little bit, itty bit, yeah. So he swore field tea then to the emperor
Starting point is 00:29:06 because clearly it was his father and the usual kind of thing. You can kind of assume that Lehman probably was just taking the piss anyway. Oh, sure. He'd probably do that to anybody that, like, challenged him, right? like, oh, I bet I could beat you. And he's like, okay, sure. So I really like this excerpt here because this is when the emperor brought him on this flagship with Horace.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh. And so Horace kind of just looked at him and stared at him was like, there's no fraternal feeling at all. He just saw him and he's like, are those actual wolves? The emperor said, after a fashion, They resemble the animals of old earth, but you would find them disappointingly small if you ever saw one. And it was just the two wolves of Lehman just sleeping on the ground on it, the emperor's ship. I mean, if I saw Lehman Russ and two wolves, I'd be like, yo, that's dope.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Are those wolves? Let's go. Forrest was very much like, these guys are just like primitives. Like, they're just a bunch of, what? And the ending part of this is hilarious to me. It says, because they beamed up a lot of, not just Lehman, but also a lot of his, like, retinue. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it says, one of the warriors was tapping at a decanter with a dirty fingernail puzzled by the glass.
Starting point is 00:30:38 A roar of laughter went up from his fellows as he accidentally pushed it off the table and shattered it on the marble floor. glass skitter across the hall priceless purple amosek soaked into irreplaceable rugs he's a freaking cat he is
Starting point is 00:30:55 he just like smacked it off the table and all the guys are like whoa let's go it's like you ruined the rug and the end and wasted the amersack it's just really funny
Starting point is 00:31:08 to think about that that is great slaps it off and he's like ha I'm starting to warm up to Lehman and the Space Wolves, man. I'm not going to lie. Oh, we're doing it. We're doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 We're doing it. We're doing it. You're doing it, Peter. You're doing it. Peter, the wolf is here. That was a hook reference, actually, but that's okay. Oh, sorry. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It's fine. Anyway, so naturally, Lehman Russ gets his Legion, his Legion, Russ and goes along through the Great Crusade. He gets his fancy suit of power armor. He gets a fancy frost blade called Mjolnar. On the nose a little bit again, but go ahead. Teeth taken from the maw of the Great Cracken Gorman Yarl. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Which I'm assuming is there a joke of Yormengander maybe, but... Probably, yeah. Oh, is that their armor? Do they have pelts on their armor? So I would argue I don't know if shy would disagree with me but I think the Space Wolves defect
Starting point is 00:32:19 the most from the classic Space Marine look because they're covered in talismans, pelts iconography they got their giant beards and hair flowing in the wind oh yeah their Horace
Starting point is 00:32:35 heresy look is dope oh man that's so much better than just like because the the post heresy is just kind of like, it's like blue and, what is it, yellow, is ish? But that's so cool. Oh, and why would they change that? Why would you ever divert from that?
Starting point is 00:32:56 I mean, they don't, they didn't like divert that much. It's just like a, like a little bit more of a blue color. Oh. Well, I could have sworn that they're regular, like, because the one I always remember seeing was kind of just like blue. and I remember being very unimpressed with all the space wolves minis I saw. But like the, like you said, that Horacee one, it's so cool. I think it's also because the Horacee Harrison, I think it's a character.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I think it's like one of the fancy boys. Okay. But like, yeah, for the most part, I don't know. They did a Joy Toy launch for Ragnar. Maybe I just saw, like, maybe I'm just mistaking what mini I saw. Oh, that's, okay, that's really cool, too, actually. Okay, I'm, I'm, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:33:48 That's a joy toy one. So it's like the bigger one, obviously. Yeah, and a little more detailed and probably, you know, your standard mini doesn't have as much. But that is, that is pretty cool. Okay, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I think the issue is that because they're space marines, you have to make space wolves just a different color space marines. You paint them space wolves. And if you want to make them look like lore accurate, you need to add all the little bits and bobbles yourself. Oh, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So like all of their named characters probably look really, really sick. But it's like, oh, yeah, just your regular space marine infantry is like, yeah, it's blue. If you mistake it for an ultramarine, except for a little color variation here and there, gotcha. Yeah. So like Ragnar Blackmeng, for example, has a mini that was recently done. He cut off Gaskell's head, if you remember. remember that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a mini, and it looks a bit more correct. Okay. But anyway, we're getting off topic. Yeah, we're getting way off topic. This is for the
Starting point is 00:34:50 Space Wolves episode. Right. So Lehman has all of his boys, and he has his legion. He does the usual Great Crusade thing, going out, bringing plants into compliance, the euse. But it's important to note how the emperor and brothers saw Lehman. So there's an interesting, like, dichotomy and dynamic between a few of his brothers. Lehman and the Lion didn't much like each other a whole lot. Yeah, I got that. In a weird way, they actually, I think,
Starting point is 00:35:25 started to grow on each other near the end. But they often butt heads pretty consistently. And there's a neat way to look at them is that they're kind of two sides of a coin. but they're opposites and how they run it. Right. They want the same things, but they just go about getting it very differently. Not quite.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Like, for example, when we talked about the Lyme, he was the noble knight of Caliban, but in reality, deep down, he is like a monster. Oh, yeah, for sure. Some of the things he does, yeah, he is, whew. Yeah, he was truly like a wild animal internally. Russ was actually a pretty decent dude and was actually quite noble, but he wore the persona of the wild animal outwardly. Oh, that is a great way to put it. Lion was a noble knight who was a wild animal on the inside,
Starting point is 00:36:31 and Russ is a wild animal on the outside, but inside is a noble decent guy. Okay, okay, okay, that's, hey, that's, hey, that's, fitting. Yeah, like the lion is a savage playing knight and the Lehman is a knight playing the savage. Gotcha. So it's a neat little dynamic between the two of them and I think it's one of the reasons they butt heads a lot. Oh, absolutely, sure. Because there's actually a part in which the two of them kind of get pissed off at each other and they duel for a while. He's just out of anger and stuff. But eventually, like randomly during it, Levin and Russ is like,
Starting point is 00:37:08 Wait a minute. This is stupid. And he just kind of laughs his ass off and walks away. Wow, really? He just, okay. He's just like, wait a minute. This is dumb. This is stupid.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I don't want to do this anymore. He just kind of leaves. Okay, okay. Chad move. And the lion molds really hard about this? Oh, I'm sure he does. He probably copes seeth mulls and just starts screaming and rolling on the floor like a little chat. Well, okay, he probably doesn't do that.
Starting point is 00:37:37 But yeah, he's probably not happy. No, so later on, like, he comes back afterwards, I believe, I believe, and is like, eventually just says, we never finished what we started. And Lehman's like, I don't care. And then the lion just stabs him in the chest. Oh! Just like shoves his sword all the way to the hill in his chest. And then the lion goes, blacks out. Or, um, Lehman blacks out.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And then, and then the lion just kind of leaves. He's like, fuck you. Damn, what a, what a man child. He, what a... His personal, like, you know, like, honor or whatever was, was very hurt by the fact that Levin was just like, wait a minute, this is stupid. Lion leaves like, ha ha, I won. But it's not as if, uh, it's not as if this is like the only time they butt heads. There was a situation in which the lion fired upon Lehman's vessel for a second because...
Starting point is 00:38:36 Oh, really? Because Lehman Russ in his love for just going forward really quickly and murdering people. I thought you were going to say because Gilliman's mother was on the ship, but... That's good. Because he blew up a ship that the lion had already boarded and without realizing it. Oh, okay. And killed a shitload of the lion's top people. And this is one of those moments of the lion is like,
Starting point is 00:39:06 Or another line, Lehman is like, feels terrible about it and like tries to atone in that battle. Yeah. And apologizes and stuff. That's a bit of an oofy. Bit of an oofy. Yeah. Yikes. So, Lion, not the one you want to accidentally kill a bunch of his people.
Starting point is 00:39:24 If I'm not mistaken, there's also that interesting, um, uh, interesting little part in the first heretic book where they're all, like a boisterous party or something and the Lehman is really drunk or at least pretending to be drunk and he chats with Lorgar for a bit yeah and they kind of they kind of like seemed kind of okay with each other despite them being so horrendously different oh yeah totally opposites but for the most part you know
Starting point is 00:39:59 to really describe Lehman Russ well he was a boisterous loud you know I am going to go do whatever my dad says and I'm going to do it perfectly fine because I am the emperor's executioner. I will
Starting point is 00:40:16 loudly sing my praises to the stars and murder anyone he tells me to because I am daddy's best boy. Seems like the leader of a frat house. Well, I mean, with like a rich dad, you know. Oh, he is a king of the
Starting point is 00:40:31 like a bunch of Norse dudes. Yep, yep, yep, yep. He's he's he's dope though. So far, so good. I mean, I know what he does later, but still, you know, I am warming up to the space wolves and to Lehman Rusk significantly more than I thought I would. Ironic, I'd assume you'd be a little more cooling down. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So, anyway, yeah, Gilliman would have mentioned that there was a few. he referred to as the dauntless few, which were four people, himself, Dorn, I think sanguinius, I think Ferris, maybe, and also Lehman. And they were the ones that would never,
Starting point is 00:41:22 ever betray the Imperium. Like, he fully trusted them as not having to worry about a chaos influence and Horace. Yeah, that's fair. Of those names, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I mean, you know, like, obviously Dorn, too, but.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah, and obviously sanguineous and yeah. But it also kind of goes to show the difference between the two of them, Lion and, we learn a lot from Lehman by looking at the lion, because where Lehman is sent off to go, like, all right, comply this world. And then a whole bunch of loud, loud space wolves drink their asses off and run down and have a great time killing people and battling.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And they yell at it to. everybody. Everyone's very clear what the Lehman Rus is all about. He shouts his loyalty to the sky where the lion is like, not the emperor's executioner, he's the emperor's exterminator. Yeah. Like go deal with that planet
Starting point is 00:42:24 and don't let anyone know. I was very stupidly about to ask if Lehman Russ had interacted with the lion since he woke up and then I was like, how could he? Because he's, you know, he's not around anymore, right? He's not around currently.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah. So I was like, oh yeah, I guess he probably wouldn't have any interaction with woke up Lion Woody. Yikes, sorry. A good example of this Emperor's executioner stuff is actually the Knight of the Wolf, which you should actually remember quite well.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It was when he went to go confront Angron to tell him to stop putting the butcher's nails in his sons. Oh, yeah. That was in Betrayer. Right. Didn't work out so well. No, the two of them eventually came to blows and fought each other. But both of them kind of, like Lehman held, it said that Lehman held back because the emperor told him don't kill the damn guy.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, both people say they won the battle, but both kind of think they lost the battle. Yeah. Oh, right. That's the one where like Angron, what is it? Is it one of his? One of his guys like, bro, you didn't win it all. They had you surrounded and they could have killed you at any moment, but they chose to retreat. Like, how could you possibly think you won that? I think Lorgar was the one who told him that.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah, you're right. It was Lorgar that told him that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, it's been a while since we read that, actually. Oh, yeah, but Treyer was a bit ago. Yeah. But Night of the Wolf was one of those situations in which it specifically was an entire, an entire statement where, hey, the emperor's executioner,
Starting point is 00:44:12 Lehman Rus, the guard dog of the emperor, the loyal hound, would go out to do this thing and, you know, Angron is Angron. Angron is indeed Angron, yes. So now that, so it was, it was a small part, Nighter Wolf, but now I can post this meme, which is, unironically, one of my favorite memes I have seen in 40K the last like two years.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Okay, okay. Lay it on me. There you go. Let's see. That is, that is so accurate and that is indeed going to be one of my favorite memes going for.
Starting point is 00:45:05 It's very, very funny. And so accurate. Anyway, the Horace heresy actions of Angron are, not Angron, sorry, of Lehman are not particularly super, they're important, but they're small. His overall actions in Horace heresy are small. The main big one that we've talked about a couple times already is, of course, the burning of Prospero. Yeah, where he, where he, where he. Baines Magnus
Starting point is 00:45:45 He basically Eventually Magnus blows through The Webway For the Biggie Biggie is furious And says that Magnus Is a traitor
Starting point is 00:45:55 Lehman Go bring him back God damn it Sent bring him back To Tara And then Horace intercepts them And says
Starting point is 00:46:04 Hey Times have changed He is like The biggest traitor Ever Dad wants you to kill him Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:12 and just burn Prospero to the ground and of course Lehman Russ is like oh it's Horace saying it well that must that is that's basically the word of the emperor A Horace was
Starting point is 00:46:23 Warmaster at this time and also you know Lehman of all people would not would not fail in his duty to do what dad wants him to do
Starting point is 00:46:34 yeah yep so um though yeah Russ still that being said Russ still did try to talk Magnus down first.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah. Well, wasn't it something like Magnus cut communication from Prospero because he felt so bad about breaking the webway that he was like, you know what? I deserve whatever's coming. Like if they burn Prospero, I kind of deserve it. That was, there was a little bit of like a fealty kind of fatalism that he had there where he really, he kind of, yeah, he did want the space wolves to kill quite a lot of. of them for his mistakes, but he was kind of being a little whiny. Yeah. I mean, we still have a thousand sons episode to do.
Starting point is 00:47:19 We can get more into that. That's true. That's true. We can get more into that when that rolls around. Sure. Sure. But with this and the sorcery of Magnus and his folks, they brought a whole bunch of sisters of silence to the burning of Prospero.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And as we know, absolutely raised this place to the ground. It's called the burning of Prospero. You're telling me. they actually burned it to the ground. It's just, it's crazy to truly, like, state how much they absolutely obliterated Prospero. Which is why,
Starting point is 00:47:55 after getting his back broken, Magnus needed to escape using the power, like asking for help with the power of Zinch. And that's kind of what damned Magnus and Thousand Sons was. Yep. Zimich and Leman's. Zinch and Leech. and Lehman's, well, Horace is in her interaction,
Starting point is 00:48:14 but also Lehman's kind of, maybe a little too headstrung. Yeah, maybe went a little too hard on Prospera. Maybe he took a little too much fire and brimstone with him. It's a little, it's a little, I'm not huge on this part. I feel like it's a little shaky writing that Lehman would just be like,
Starting point is 00:48:34 oh, okay, Horace, I'll kill him. And it feels a little too easy. Maybe, yeah. But again, it's like if that's what he thinks the emperor wants, like he is going to do it to the best of his ability and to the most complete he can. Yeah, well, absolutely, because he is Lehman Russ and he is one of the most loyal. Why would he question Horace, you know? Why would he think to, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, but there, like, the issue I think is that, is that Lehman Russ is not, because he's not stupid. and despite his looks, I feel like there should have been a little bit more of a questioning himself deal. Like, is this really what father would want? Like, I don't have to completely burn Prospera. Like, I can, I can like take it over and conquer it. But maybe I don't have to like literally kill everybody and just leave it ash, right? And maybe he could have just asked dad just like, hey,
Starting point is 00:49:39 we sure about this. Confirmation, please. Yeah. But like, that's going above and Horace is the war master. So, like, I get it, but it does feel like a little shaky. Yeah. Regardless. Yeah, so Magnus gets thrown into the war portal and all that stuff. And after leaving this, Lehman has a bit of a run-in with the Alpha Legion.
Starting point is 00:50:02 If you may remember the Alpha Legion, specifically with they talked with Jagatai Com, when we talk about the com and Jacketai was like, I don't know which one of you is loyal, so I'm just going to stay out of this, bye. Fair enough, fair enough. And so there was a big fight with the Alpha Legion. There's Lehman going to town on one of the Terminators. Yeah, I imagine Lehman Russ would kind of dunk on the Alpha Legion.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like, just in a... I mean, I guess they'd probably use a lot of trickery and stuff, but I, for some reason in my head, if there was like, oh, yeah, there's a fight between Alpharius and the space wolves and Lehman Russ, it's like, man, Lehman Russ is going to like walk all over them, right? Well, it may be like a one-on-one
Starting point is 00:50:48 Revolutionary War formation to fight shore, but at this point, the Alpha Legion kind of beat the Space Wolves here. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, well, they were already damaged from after the burning of Prospero. Oh, that's that, okay, true, true. For some reason I was thinking they were all
Starting point is 00:51:06 100% versus 100%. That's fair. What is more... Yeah, that's right. Alferius was also there fighting disguise as a regular Terminator. Ah, okay. Which also makes things pretty tough.
Starting point is 00:51:21 That's true. You think you're fighting a Terminator and it's like, oh, by the way, that's a primark! And eventually they actually had to be bailed out by the Dark Angels themselves. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:51:33 So the Dark Angels arrive, save, because, you know, every battle is, in the Horace heresy is almost, the Primark almost dies, but then he's saved by X. Sure, because they're too important
Starting point is 00:51:42 to just kind of throw away. Right. Wow, so the Alpha Legion kind of dunked on a weakened space wolves. Oh, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:52 besides the night lords, what other faction would dunk on a weakened person? That's fair, actually. They'll only get into a fight, you know you can win, right? Yep. And this is also one of the big
Starting point is 00:52:02 turning points for Lehman Russ from a character point of view. As shy says here Surrounded on all sides And abandoned by the white scars Russ consigned himself to defeat And admitted to Bjorn Bjorne's one of his closest advisors
Starting point is 00:52:16 That blindly serving as the emperor's executioner Had been a mistake Russ pledged to take his own path from now on Oh So this was like the big moment Where he was like whoa I really should maybe like Yeah I'm gonna follow the emperor
Starting point is 00:52:34 But like I should maybe think for my a little bit and like assess situations better instead of just like oh emperor told me to go in and do it so I'm gonna do it basically because it it backfired on him here and almost you know killed him the entirety of the of Lehman Russ's kind of slight character development here is him realizing that maybe doing everything just being sent out as a tool isn't really always the best and making his own decisions would be pretty darn helpful. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So at that point, though, after the entire Alpha Legion section, all of that jazz, the Naya the Wolf, most of the Horacey stuff, the main that, well, let's say, I'm kind of underselling how much the Alpha Legion kind of hurt him right there. It was a pretty rough one. Okay. So by figuring out what to do for himself, he decided to go down a spiritual journey back on Fenris. This is one of the most on the nose parts of the whole thing. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:48 So there was a ritual involving himself seven rune priests, which are basically just psychers. But they think psychers are stupid, but they're supposed. psychers. But run priests. These aren't psychers. They're ruin priests. Yeah, this is the spirit of Allhala. It's different. That's different. Oh, I totally forgot. You know, they call the emperor the Allfather. No way. Do they really? They actually do. Yeah. It's for Russ and the Allfather. Okay. All right. Hey, so far, everything's been really cool. So I'll take the on the nose Norse mythology stuff because I have been enjoying
Starting point is 00:54:28 Lehman-Rust's stuff so far so I'll give him a pass I'll give him a pass All right, all right But yeah, it was kind of silly Yeah, very on the nose So They decide to enter this place
Starting point is 00:54:41 called the Underverse Which is basically just Hellheim I'm being honest Through a volcanic cavern known as Sertr's door Oh, we're doing it Oh, we're doing it. So they entered the hall of, Russ entered the hall of the Earl King,
Starting point is 00:55:00 a warp entity that collects Fenrisian souls which die outside of battle. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It didn't particularly go well to start with as the Earl King had hordes of Wolfim, the half-wolf people. Okay. And we're about to be murdered by him,
Starting point is 00:55:22 where he decided to try to get his soul back in exchange for four challenges. These four challenges are absolutely also part of North mythology, and I think Thor did these. Oh, I was hoping you were going to say, first he ate a lot, then he drank a lot. So the first challenge was that he needed to drink the damned souls Amarok's bowl dry, which he could not. That sounds tough.
Starting point is 00:55:51 That sounds tough. ...ne... Which he could not. What's an old crone? He's an old lady. Oh, okay. And then he finally was to move the king's great sleeping wolf, which he also could not. Oh, so this is a very humbling experience for Lehman.
Starting point is 00:56:12 The fourth challenge was to explain what these challenges meant. and what this was was that the first challenge was the changing of the seasons of Fenris the drinking of the bull the second the old woman was the inevitability of age you can't wrestle down the old crone sure sure father time always wins and the unimovable wolf
Starting point is 00:56:40 is the inescapable of death the inability to escape death okay So after realizing all these things, the hall crumbled and a version of Russ that never landed on Fenris appeared like a vision. Oh. And at this time, Russ actually had a gift from the emperor. It was called the Emperor's Spear, which if I am ever expecting Lehman Russ to come back, he would most definitely be armed with the Emperor's Spear. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I mean, it seems pretty clear. that that's going to be his weapon moving forward when he returns. This spear has the actual ability to reveal the truth of whoever is stabbed with it. Oh, that's a big deal. Immediately after realizing this, the fake Russ shanked Lehman in the chest with the spear, which, quote, revealed to him the truth regarding the nature of the Primarks. Oh! Which we don't get to know, sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Well, well, we kind of, well, no, I guess, yeah. No, we don't know. We don't know. It says that Russ despaired, and the knowledge would one day see him leave Fenris. But after that, the whole final point of this was the idea that if you're going to stop Horace, shaking him with the spear will bring out the true Horace. and therefore, you know. Now, it's assumed that the knowledge that he got was the fact that the primarks were made with a bunch of warp shenanigans and deals with the gods.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yeah, because that's what happens in the... Which book was it? First Heretic, yeah, yeah, is they suggest that the emperor made a deal with the chaos gods, that they would teach him how to make primarks, and then he was like, oh, hey, our deal's off. losers, and that's why they scattered the primarks across the galaxy, right? That is part of what we learned in that one. But simultaneously, it's also, we don't actually know specifically. Yeah, that's true. You could say that their nature could also have been a kind of like what the emperor had made them for,
Starting point is 00:59:08 for like the truth and that truth is why he despair. It's kind of hard to tell. Yeah, yeah. So where is Russ now? Oh, he's on Fenris when he did all this stuff. Yeah, yeah. Does he, he doesn't die from that. Is he just like,
Starting point is 00:59:24 following in despair somewhere now? No, no, no. He wakes up from this and then decides that the best course of action for him right now is to go ambush Horace and shank him with the spear. Okay, okay, cool. Which, naturally, is a pretty good idea. Oh, it's a great idea. Unfortunately, he does, or fortunately he does go ambush the vengeful spirit and immediately fight Horace.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Doesn't quite get him with the spear, hits him with a glancing blow. They duel in a crazy fight, usual Primark duels. Russ almost dies in the fights. All of his guys arrive to save him. He's dragged away to safety. Every single Primark duel in the Horace, heresy ends this way. Sure. I was going to say As cool as we have portrayed
Starting point is 01:00:17 Lehman Rus so far at the time, there's no way you're winning a duel with Horace. Horace currently is pretty juiced. Yeah, I mean, even before Chaos, he was like the favored son and everything. And then you juice his ass up with chaos and it's like, good luck. I'm surprised you got a glancing blow.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I mean, Chaya's good, make a good point. Fulgram did kill Ferris Man. and fatally stabbed Bobby G. That's true. That is, you know, he was head and shoulders better than Ferris Manus. Oh, here we go again. Sorry, I couldn't help it. We're going to get banned from the Discord for the fifth time.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Oh, man. But every Primark duel goes this way. He tried to do it, didn't quite do it, got so badly wounded he went into a comatose state. Ooh. Was only reawakened when Korax arrived with the Ravenguard, as well as meeting up with Lionel Johnson and you know trying to get them all prepped and ready for the craziness
Starting point is 01:01:21 of the final fight of the war so Horace beat him into a coma huh oh yeah I mean Horace was pretty juiced at this point he also you also put the emperor on the throne when you think about that that is true he well the emperor wasn't like he wasn't going full force right because he still was like oh yeah
Starting point is 01:01:41 It's still horace. It's still my boy. And it wasn't until he killed that guard that he was like, not my son. That's true. That's according to the emperor. That's true. The emperor says that. That's true.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Unreliable narrator potentially. Fair enough. The power level of the emperor is so fluctuating depending on the book and the writer. It's like there's no good explanation. True. True. But this is kind of why. Leman Russ was not present in the siege of
Starting point is 01:02:13 Terra was all of these issues with him being in a comatose state and these all difficulties, especially because Dorn and the like were said to Lehman, hey, don't go kill Horace right now, we need you for the siege of Terra. And so
Starting point is 01:02:28 when Horace made his gamble to teleport the emperor onto his flagship, it was with the express knowledge and fear that the space wolves and I think the dark angels and the rest were on their way. Right. Because he had a time frame issue.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Mm-hmm. And so, Lehman Rus arriving late to the siege of Terra is really damn rough because he was told by Dorn, don't leave. Oh. So if he had actually listened to Dorn and had actually, like,
Starting point is 01:03:06 not gone after Horace, not gone comatose and defended Terra, things would have turned out a lot differently. Shai says it reminds her of the Empire Strikes Back. No, don't go fight the asshole Luke. And then he does. And then he gets his ass cake and he loses an arm. He does. That's true.
Starting point is 01:03:26 That's true. Yeah. But he gets the important knowledge that Vader is his father. Yeah, I guess. He needs that information in Return of the Jedi, I guess. I guess. Anyway. So obviously, Lehman is not.
Starting point is 01:03:41 there for this final siege of terra. He arrives late, which is very unfortunate, and he is clearly distraught by this. Oh, yeah. He's got to be, like, I'm sure all of the primarks are just devastated, but if anybody, like, of the survivors would be most devastated. It would be, you know, people like Dorn, people like Leman Russ, because they were like the most loyal, right? Dorn, I think Dorn and Jagatai put him on the throne itself. Yeah, oh, that's right. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 It is not great. Yeah, that sucks. But, you know, Lehman after this point, it's kind of funny. Gilliman became the Lord Commander the Imperium and made the Codex of Starities. And Lehman basically was just like, yeah, whatever, dude. He just kind of didn't even really listen to it much. Fair, that, that, that sounds like a very Lehman-Russ thing to do. I was gonna say, Lehman, a part of me was like, he's, he must feel like he is almost, like, lost his purpose,
Starting point is 01:04:50 because his whole thing was just like, oh, I'm loyal to the emperor. I do as the emperor commands, and I always do it, he's got to feel a little empty. He got really depresso. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah. That is kind of the interesting final bit. it's quite interesting. Eventually, some time after Lehman Rus' or the emperor's interment, they have this large feast.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Oh, I have his final words. Don't worry, shy. Okay. They have this final feast. And during this big feast they normally have, Russ kind of stands up and just stares out into the nothingness across the hall. And falls directly onto his knees. in like despairment.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And he says this, Listen but closely, brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then, my children,
Starting point is 01:05:56 I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me. And come, I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. at the end, I will be there for the final battle for the wolf time, which I'm pretty sure is just Ragnarok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:15 At that point, he took a contingent of his space wolves and left. And assumingly went to the warp or something. We have no idea, and he has never been seen again. Oh, wow. So after that, he just... He just puts himself into, like, self-exile? It's assumed that he went to the eye of terror to find the tree of life. Oh.
Starting point is 01:06:48 That will bear fruits to heal and restore the emperor to life again. Mm-hmm. But we don't know. It's assumed. It's believed. Wow. That's, that's heavy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:04 That's heavy. That's a heavy way to go. That's a heavy final final words. Every standard year after his disappearance he had the same feast. Every year his drinking
Starting point is 01:07:15 horn was filled if he ever came back and eventually after seven years he never did so Bjorn his successor was elected as the new great wolf
Starting point is 01:07:25 and began the hunt to search for Russ again. Damn. Bjorn the fell handed is a character you can use in the game. He's a dreadnought.
Starting point is 01:07:39 But he's kind of got this like old man stick to him where you kind of, you like, you drink a bunch of mead, y'all shit and piss everywhere. You wake up Bjorn, like, hey, Bjorn. Wow, that's a dreadnought all right. Yep, that is a dreadnought. He's pretty cool. But now, so now he helps run these great hunts
Starting point is 01:08:01 in an attempt to find Russ again. Okay. They were, the first hunt found nothing. The second hunt was the gray hunt and they found Russ's armor. Oh, where'd they find it? From the temple of Horace on the world of Rudra by the edge of the eye of terror. Oh, okay. The fourth hunt uncovered a conspiracy to overthrow the administratum in a coup.
Starting point is 01:08:34 The ninth great hunt led to the Gene Steeler destruction, Gene Steeler World destruction in a system. And so on and so forth, the great hunts have gained many victories, but very few actual signs of Lehman himself. Just the armor, huh? Just the armor. It is said that each hunt begins when Russ speaks through visions in the minds of his ruin priests,
Starting point is 01:09:05 giving them wisdom and sending them on new quests. But how much of that is psych or shenanigans is hard to tell. It seems like a lot of it's psych or shenanigans because if Russ was speaking to them, then wouldn't they have found more Russ stuff? Well, it's cryptic. It's like cryptic vision. It's true.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Which was also a very big Norse thing, right? Was these cryptic visions? Right. And the, the throne. of fate and the, what is it, the, the three witches that share the eye of fate or something? Oh, the, um, the, um, the, the, the, the, the, the three, uh, people that, like, write, right, right fate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they can cut the strings and such. Yeah, I remember, I remember them very vividly in God of War Ridenark. I thought it was a really
Starting point is 01:09:52 good scene. Yeah. I, it's gonna sound, I remember them from the, the, the, the, please. Oh yeah, they are literally called the fates. The fates, right. There are a lot of, like, there are a lot of super big Norse mythology fans in Warhammer, like there are World War II, like, nuts. It's cool mythology, though, to be fair. Like, I, when I was in, like, my first year of college, I dabbled a little bit into that stuff, but, yeah, I could see how anyone like that would absolutely just gravitate to the space wolves in Lehman Russ for sure. I only say this because I
Starting point is 01:10:34 clearly don't know a whole lot about it. And because of that, I apologize to any of our fans who are gigantic into Norse mythology and aren't hearing me specifically be like, hey, this is a lot like this part in Norse mythology. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Hey, I don't really know either. So, But so far, it all sounds dope. I mean, you know. Yeah, so that's where Lehman's at right now. It's assumed he went in the eye of terror.
Starting point is 01:11:05 He'll come back during Ragnarok, basically, and all of the space wolves are out hunting. For the time being, Lehman, the greatest sin of Lehman Russ is the fact that he doesn't have a beard. What? Really? Yeah, he doesn't have a beard. Oh, that's true. He doesn't.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah, that's right. He doesn't. What the hell's up with that? that. Yeah, that's, that's kind of messed up. So if he's in the eye of terror, could he possibly be a warp tainted then or no? I only ask, because I kind of want him to have
Starting point is 01:11:37 like wolf features when he comes back out and be like, uh, you know? That is one of the things that a lot of people like to, uh, to hope for is that he'll be this like giant half wolf half Viking like kind of like Korax as the bird.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah, exactly. I, when like I want Korax to show up and just be like, have actual like raven wings and like, you know, and stuff like that. Yeah. Right. So, so he could be like that, though at the
Starting point is 01:12:09 same time, I think that it might be less less that vibe and more just a spear wielding Norse, you know, soldier kind of vibe. Yeah. And it's like oh, well he's a primark. Of course he didn't get mutated by chaos. He was a primark. He was a primark.
Starting point is 01:12:25 He's a primark. It's a primark. It's a primark. He's a primark. Just a little primark. So for the most part, when it comes to Lehman as a character and the like, what I said earlier, he really is kind of what he is on the tin. But at the same time, he's still got some honest to God complexity. Yeah, he's interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Interesting in a lot of ways. he's got like I don't know Shai do you think he's the prime that's having the most fun actually Fulgroom is having a lot of fun Yeah I was going to say Fulgram probably I don't because like
Starting point is 01:13:07 maybe pre-heresy I would say that like Lehman Russ was having a good time having a good time but like post heresy he is like probably
Starting point is 01:13:21 the worst off of like all of them, right? Sorry, maybe I misspoke. During, like, during Horace Heresy 30K time, Great Crusade era, I think he was probably having the best time. Right now, he is definitely not having a good time. Yeah, right now he is,
Starting point is 01:13:39 he is in the express lane of agony. Like, I mean not agony, but he is, I am straight up not having a good time, bro. So, yeah. Oh, San Guineas was having a lot of art and fun. That's true. The con did have a good time too I feel like Lehman had more fun than the con
Starting point is 01:13:58 But maybe not as fun as Well, Sanguania's was also hit with death visions all the time And that wasn't very fun Yeah, that probably wasn't fun But at least he knew that he was going to like His death had a purpose, right? He saw the best future and he was like, oh yeah It's gonna lead to like the emperor surviving, right?
Starting point is 01:14:15 I don't think anyone had as much outward And showed the fun they had Maybe Fulgroom I think maybe just fulgroom I still I still love that little bit where Liem and Russ and the emperor the drinking and eating
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's so good He out ate and out drank the emperor And the emperor was just like Bro And just I love that So I think that was the moment Where I was like yep Okay Lehman Russ you've won me over
Starting point is 01:14:48 I don't care about the Prospero thing You've won me over It's pretty pretty peak. And I think that's one of the fun things about Lehman. And I think one of the reasons why Space Walls fans like Lehman is because, yeah, he actually has some genuine character. He has some character arcs and some interesting traits. But at the end of the day, he is an extraordinarily loyal son, not because of like any heady ideals of honor or anything, but because just he's a loyal son. Yeah. And he's got some pretty complex character development too. Like he
Starting point is 01:15:22 goes through it. He, like, he, you can see him develop from, like, just, you know, this kid that's raised by wolves on a death world to, like, realizing the tragedy of just blindly and loyally following the emperor.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Like, it's, it's, it's quite the character arc. So, I am, I am happy about, uh, turning into, I mean, I might not be now a space wolf's fan or whatever, but I, I, I, I thoroughly enjoyed learning about Lehman Russ today.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I'm glad. I'm glad that you can get him. Yeah. More than anything. Shai does make a great point. Next episode, I think we'll actually be a little bit more fun because we'll be talking about the months of shame, which is awesome. And we'll talk a lot about the months of shame.
Starting point is 01:16:13 And we'll also get a chance to talk about the one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. 8, 9, 10, 11 named characters that they have that have minis on the table top. They have 11 named characters. Is that the most named characters out of any chapter?
Starting point is 01:16:37 I think, yes. I think it beats everything extremely. Wow. It's a lot. Yeah, we might split it up because months of shame might involve its own episode. But.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Dang. Yeah, they have, because that's the whole point of, you know, of the space wolves or all the sagas. The saga and earning your name and, okay. Oh, that's cool. I'm looking forward to next week then. Yeah, so we'll go ahead and do that. Next week will be the Legion and it's named characters, and then we'll do the months of shame a different time. Nice.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I'm looking, so we're off to a great start with the Space Wolves. I've already completely 180ed. I am really liking Oh, I'm looking, oh, I'm looking forward to the next couple weeks. This is going to be good. This is going to be real good. So, to end the episode, we have to bring back an old favorite.
Starting point is 01:17:31 We do? Yes. Okay. What's the old favorite? I remember Magnus the red. It's like, oh, no, me, me. Like, nerd emoji, my psychor ability. And Lima Russ comes up, back break and goes, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
Starting point is 01:17:48 I forgot all of them. Hell, yeah, let's get out of here. Yeah.

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