Adeptus Ridiculous - LOYALIST POWER ARMOR DEEP DIVE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousSpace Marine Power Armour is an extraordinarily sophisticated defensive system which combines huge resistance to physical damage with a sensory array and sealed environment which protects its wearer from the ravages of the void and alien atmospheres. Integrated with the armour are networks of electro-motivated fibre bundles which mimic and augment the muscular strength of the wearer, as well as connection cables which hook up to the Black Carapace implant of a Space Marine. The true genius of the design, however, lies in its close integration with the already superhuman physiology, senses and reflexes of the Space Marine within. Working in concert, armour and Astartes together become a weapon without equal.Support the show

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Patreon.com slash Adeptus. ridiculous. And since Bricky is not here today, let me tell you to head on over to the shop, orchidate.com, get some merch, get some t-shirts, get some hoodies, get some objective markers, get some dice. Check the description below for the link. It's great. Check it out. Wow. Hi, Karioth. How are you today? It's getting so smooth. It's getting so smooth. The push towards the store, I'm loving it every time. I've just thought, all the, Objective markers with the cool little tyrannage with the knives and forks? Are they still around?

Because... I think so. I meant to get some and I never did. And I might go and get some immediately once we've finished because they're... I'm sorry, but I love them. I love them so much. And even if you don't need an objective marker, I feel like they could probably double as a mouse pad or a coaster or just a fancy decoration for your table. 100%.

Stick them on the wall. It'll look great. Yeah. Just glue it onto your wall. sure, why not? But don't do that if you live in a rental property because that can get you in trouble. Better yet, just staple under your forehead. Why not?

Now, that is a level of dedication that only a few people listening to have. Very, very few people have that level of dedication. Please do not staple anything to your forehead. We hear it adeptus verdictus. Do not recommend that and say, do not actually do that. This is indeed a bit. You, see, you went the opposite way. I was going to say if you've staped onto your forehead.

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No. We're off to a rock and start, Kierreuth. Dear, it's going to get worse the longer it goes on. You realize that, don't you? Yep. When the bricks away, the mice will play. Let's go. Okay, I've got, as is traditional, a nice quote for you.

This one, this one, though, this is a fill in the blank quote. Oh. The blank's fairly early on, so you'll have to really hone in to them to drop in the correct word. Are we ready? Yeah, well, as I'm going to be. I say that every time, knowing that the actors usually know. No. One day, one day I'm expecting just a burst of confidence, and it'll be fantastic.

So, hell yeah, Kierreuth. I'm so ready. Hit me with a quote. Let's go. The centuries ornate, blank, shimmered in the stormlight. The sheen never settling on a single hue as though it were infused with a rainbow. One moment of burned orange, the next a rich purple, then a deep blue, each rippling synchronously with the others. Give me the blank part one more time. The centuries ornate blank shimmered in the stormlight. Centries ornate blank. And it was like purple and multicolored and stuff?

Yep. Yep, as though infused with a rainbow. It's got a nice sheen on it. That sounds like some zing shit, but I'm not sure what... I mean, that's safer than go for the Slenash option. You're all true. If it was Slenash, it would have been a lot more, you know. probably quick as a guess, but not in a good way.

And it's a century, like, S-E-N-T-R-Y, like century, like a... Yeah, it's like a guard. It's not like the century old thing. Nope. Oh, it's a guard, huh? Yeah. Maybe... Only thing I can think that they would have that would glimmer and shimmer is, like,

some kind of Lasgun, some kind of special Lasgun. Maybe I don't know. I got nothing. You're in the right tennis court, but on the wrong side of the net. What was that analogy? Where did that come from? Yeah, well, I mean... It's not bad.

I don't think that's a bad analogy. It's not terrible. I don't know why I said it. So that's new. Okay. Do you want me to fill in your blank? Yeah, hit me with the old yeller. Okay.

You weren't that far off. because it would be the century's ornate armor shimmered. Of course, of course that's what it would be. What else on a guard would shimmer in weird luminous and colors? What else would it be? You weren't far off. Now it's so obvious. That's the thing.

It always is after the fact, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, for some reason, my mind immediately went to Stormbolter, and I was like, why would a century have a Storm Bolter decay? that, there's no reason to immediately go to that. And then it was like, oh, no, that's all my brain wants to think about, oh, no, that's, I know it's not that, but oh, no, oh, no. That's the parent suggestion.

It's because it's specifically mentioned stormlight. You heard storm, you went to weapon. Ah, that's what it was. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, there was logic and intelligence there. Not a lot, but it was there, sure. It did exist.

You're right. not a great version of it, but it was there, for sure. I like how I try to introduce an out every time. And each time you just like slap me down and you're like, no, no, it was dumb. Move on. It was pretty dumb.

And hey, this is what our fans have come to expect from me. It's playing to type. That's what we'll call it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. So, there we go. The lad has been accepted this time.

So what we're going to talk about, power armour. That is today's topic. We are going to be discussing unlimited power armor. Not every single type of like space marine armor because there are some that we won't cover in this episode. There's quite a lot out there. So there are multiple, multiple things to go through. But for this one, for this one, it's power armor all the way. So the only thing that is more sturdy and reliable than the plus armor of a space marine is their power armor.

It is quite literally the poster icon. Oh, God, I can't say this word. My word. The poster iconography? Oh, iconography. Right, right, right, right, right. Thank you. Jesus Christ. That was a good start, in it.

Oh, yeah. It's iconic. It's an iconic part of 40K. I should have just said that. And even if you don't know the franchise, in the slightest, you will recognize a space marine in Power Armor. And funnily enough, as you can imagine, it has gone through an incredible array of changes over the course of the last several decades. Oh, yeah. Just a little bit, right?

And has changed from some stuff, some dudeswear sometimes, to the utter lifeblood of the Imperium as a whole. and it's a bit overdue, but we are going to go on a very deep dive into the history of space marine power armor, ranging from how it's made to all the different patterns, including some of the unique ones for some of the lesions and chapters out there. Nice. I specifically remember when I first got into 40K and I first saw a space marine, I just, I thought they all had jet packs, and I thought they could all like fly. And I was like, that's clearly what that big backpack is for, right? And it's like, no, silly boy.

No, that's not what those big backpacks are for. To be fair, I see that quite a lot. Like, especially if you, if you ever want to go down the rabbit hole of seeing 800,000 reaction channels react to anything Space Marine 2 or Astati's related. I thought you were going to say, do you want to see React channels react to Brickies? Everything about more. That too. that also applies there's a lot of those as well

yeah just a couple a lot of those it's a great video so you know which one is it it's one of lootings as well does the rounds every now and again but that is a misconception that you do see quite often

because I mean it's a big chunky backpack with what looks like two thrusters on the side so it's not unreasonable Yeah, I thought it was for mobility because they're such big, chunky armor guys, that they would need it to move fast at all. Yeah, and then the fun thing is discovering that they don't need a jump pack to move fast.

They can do that anyway because they're absolute monsters. And then you play Space Spring 2 and it's like, oh, this is what they're like with an actual jump pack. Yikes. Oh, bless the jump pack. It's never going to be properly implemented in any case. because it would make it too broken. Way too broken. The story?

Space Marine 2 Jump Pack never. Nope. Absolutely not. So it should be pretty apparent, but this episode is going to be specifically about the power armor of loyalist space marines. So we're not going to cover Terminator armor. We're also not going to cover like Chaos Space Marines power armor.

And we're also not going to talk about other franchises. So Fallout Power Armor is out, which Possum was very sad. about because they really wanted to write about that. But we can talk about that stuff in another episode. So the first question, really, what exactly is power armour? So to really get to the core of it, one has to go way back in time to Terris pre-crucassade times. And as we know, records of Terri's pre-age of strife are virtually non-existent, but the usage of a very brutish proto power armor during the unification wars implies that there was some sort of power armor

that existed during the time beforehand because let's be honest that there wasn't a huge amount of innovation going on during the unification wars until the emperor decided to show up and make improvements on absolutely everything including power armor itself for the thunder warriors oh poor thunder warriors bless them they they did they did they did such a good job. They did their job too well. Yeah, far too well in a way. Mm-hmm, yeah.

Ultimately, the best sort of starting point for power armor is the Thunder Warriors. And what would eventually become known as, like, Mark I armor, there's a lot of patterns. So though the patterns, like, do wildly vary beyond the Mark I armor, there's quite a bit of consistency. So we can kind of broadly summarize what power. armor is to a space marine. It is, as we all know, a highly advanced shell for a space marine that is directly tied to their senses via the black carapace. It's designed to be less of a suit of armor and more of a second skin for the space marines and can be worn pretty much indefinitely

so long as it does not suffer extreme damage. The wearing and taking off of it, though, that can vary a lot between legions, and so can the common patterns that are used. For the most part, they're all equipped with a backpack that serves as the main power source for the entire suit, and beyond providing auxiliary power to the suit, it also acts as like a hub for the life support systems and the environmental protection stuff that can protect the space marine from environmental concerns, as well as the different pressures present in different atmospheres on different planets. One of the things that I love about, like early games workshop especially, is they loved

to name specific parts that you wouldn't think about and you wouldn't really, you know, think like, oh, well, how does the backpack properly work? What are the gubbings called? They named it. They went in there. So they've got a small stacked atomic chain, which is also known as just. stacks that acts as a perpetual battery for the suit. It operates on a super low voltage so the usage can last for ages.

Kind of like the small battery in the old copy of your Pokemon Game Boy cartridges that are probably dead. May or 99 rare candies, best in peace. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. A little circular battery. Yeah. I'd say, yeah, this is the thing. So, Shai said, it's interesting that.

Games Workshop with all the nonsense they have actually added to the power source to power armor, because a lot of franchises don't bother. Fallout has a very tiny nuclear engine. Halo doesn't give a fuck just to make sure that armor looks more slim. Yeah, they especially early on, they loved, they loved their stats. They loved kind of going, well, this is how fast this tank can go and what size gun it has and what engine it uses and like what weight it is and the exact dimensions and all that stuff, which is really fun to research and really fun to look over.

But it's also quite a lot of the time a bit nonsensical. But it's like it's the nice balance of it. It's like, okay, that is silly, but I love that you did it anyway. I love that you thought about this, even if the end result shouldn't really function. It's still cool. It's silly, but it makes sense. Right? It's got a lot of, a lot of in-depth silliness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice little, I guess one might say there's stacks of detail. Anyway, go ahead. One could, but one should. One could, but one won't. The biggest feature of the power armor, obviously, is the actual armor bit itself, of course. So it's predominantly made out of Ceramite, which is highly flexible, highly resilient ceramic material, that's naturally resistant to heat conduction.

It's easily layered, so it makes repairs a bit easier. It's bendable, so it's really good for movable armor pieces, and it takes quite a lot of power to break through it. It's also used in conjunction with adamantium to make the armor that much stronger, adamantium being the strongest material in the Imperium. Now... The Wolverine metal, yep. That's the one.

you might be thinking at this point, hang on, I somehow missed this when I was going through this earlier. Kirioth, you gallant steed. Why don't they make that? Okay. That just, that broke my brain for a second. Why don't they make, why don't they make the whole damn thing out of adamantium since it's virtually indestructible? Well, for starters, it's incredibly rare. not just something that the Imperium can, like, throw around. I was about to say that, too.

I was like, it's got to be because there's just not that much adamantium because it's such good material that, of course, it's going to be like your pseudo-unobtainium in 40K or something. It feels like one of those materials that any time it shows up in a fictional universe, there's just not enough of it. There's never enough of it. It's hard to get hold of. It's difficult to work with, you know, there's just like four grams of it in the

universe, that sort of nonsense. It's one of them. And it's not just rare, incredibly heavy. So, like, whilst it's more prominent in Terminator armour, the idea of using it on mass, it will cause like a noticeable change in space marine versatility. And this is an example that I absolutely love. Think the whole, why don't they make the whole plane out of the black box material debate? Oh, right. Because then the plane would never take off because it's just too goddamn heavy and it's like, why would you do that to yourself? But also,

borderline indestructible. So if it ever did manage to take off and it did crash, which you probably would from being far too heavy, everyone on board would survive, so that's something. Yeah. Pretty feasible though, is it?

No, not really. No, no. At that point, you've just got a more complicated car. Yeah, true, true. Mm-hmm. A more complicated car. Plus, like, despite being, like, nigh indestructible, adamantium, it can be damaged or warped. So, ceramite can shatter and break if it's hit too hard, which effectively prevents it from impacting the space marine underneath.

If you replace the breakability of the seramite with an indestructible material and you have impacted adamantium, that would just crush the space marine underneath it. Think like crumple zones on modern cars versus... I mean, the cyber truck, where there aren't your comfortable zones? And it's just a big, it's just a big, I was going to say like metal dumpster on wheels. But, you know, yeah, basically a big metal coffin. Or have you ever been scrolling Twitter and seen the, I think they make him in China or something where it's like, it's helmets? And it's like, oh, he takes the helmet, smashes it on like a metal spike. It just collapses and shatters.

And he does that three times. It's like, oh, look at our helmet. Dong, dong, dong, and then just gong. And it doesn't shatter. And it's like, look how good it is. It's like, but your brain is soup now. Your head is just a fine miss now. What are you doing, man?

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Those are the three guaranteed methods. Yep. So both the seromite and the adamantium are movable due to the fact that there are plenty of fiber bundles beneath the plates that serve almost like an electromagnetic conductor that helps it move along with the user. It's not like the Space Marine is physically moving each piece one by one. It essentially runs in parallel with the Space Marine's movements.

Okay. Cool. Oh, no, I'm having a coffin fit. Hang on. Oh, no, Curias dying. Keep it in. Keep it in. Shide. The last will and testament of Kiriath. I'm having a coughing fit. And he was never heard from again. He died of cringe because of you... I didn't even say anything that. Well, okay, this fact. Probably was kind of cringe.

That's fair. But like that was that was that was that was like 15 minutes ago. That can't be the. Shut up. I'm just out here collapsing of environmental hazards and the hazard is breathing slightly apparently. Apparently, yeah. Oh man. I was talking about asbestos earlier.

Is this it? Oh, no. Oh, no. It sounds like you use power armor. We're all good. I'm not dead yet. I'm curious. Okay, everyone.

I hope that got cut anyway. Now leave chunks of it and it's fine. Just leave in the coughing and then the mention of asbestos and that's it. We're good to go. Okay. So, beyond the power source and the plating, there are other factors that are almost entirely universal across the different patterns. So you've got a highly advanced auto sensor array that provides the area with not only

a tactical display, but also the ability to filter and change the frequencies of sounds around them along with targeting sensors, which is really cool. I'm pretty sure in one of the Horacee books, there is like, there's mention of the helmet's like deadening sound. So when there's a massive explosion, it doesn't like blow your eardrums out. It makes it manageable, but it's able to like filter out voices and stuff. Don't, don't they have like a loudspeakers, basically for your voice on the helmet too. Yeah, the Vox Grill. Yeah, our favorite Nightlord's book has that,

I don't think it's Talos, one of them picks up one of the engineers, and it's like, are you from the gunnery deck? And he literally just blows his ears out, and he can't hear, and he's like, ah, and he just starts shooting him. And he just, the guy dies because he tries to shoot Saramite,

bullet bounces off his armor, and he brains himself. Oh, my God. What a way. to go. There are different filters that the helmets have as well, so that they allow the space marine to see things ranging from ultraviolet to infrared and basically provide vision in total darkness. And there is the aforementioned Vox Grill so that they can both breathe with highly advanced

filtration and Yap while pointing at enemies. There's also nutrient reserves or like reservoirs that are embedded in. in this system, which are self-replenishing and make it so the space marine doesn't need to eat or drink. And there is a life-size monitor that regulates and balances all life support functions so the marine can be provided with like antibiotics, antitoxins, pain killers, stimulants. They've got everything they need to stay healthy. And they've got fancy shoes.

So they're reinforced greaves. They're designed with gyroscope. stabilizers so that they can function on any surface as well as having automatic magnetizers so they can walk on magnetic surfaces even in the vacuum of space along with the sabbaton which protects the foot itself pretty pretty nifty to be honest pretty pretty pretty nifty they've got built-in anti-gravity gravity boots whenever i think of grab boots i think of the is the are you a trekkie at all you watch star trek but at all I have watched quite a bit of Star Trek in the past.

I've not kept up with whatever the current ones are, to be honest. I always think of first contact when I think of gravity boots. And when they're like walking on the underside of like the enterprise and they have to have the gravity boots on otherwise, whoops! And they have to like destroy the plate. Yeah. Obviously the true like secret weapon behind power armor is the space marine that it's attached to. As we said a little bit ago, the armor is not designed to just be something to be worn.

It's like a symbiotic second skin for the space marine, and the functionality is directly complemented by the fact that it's being used by an augmented super soldier. Mm-hmm. With several hearts and several sets of important lungs, sure. And a burning desire to kill anything not human. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Also, is it pretty nor...

So, I always noticed in a lot of the books anyway, there's a lot of moments where they will just, if they're not on a mission, they will absolutely take off their power armor. But it doesn't sound like they really have to? No, they can leave it on for quite a long time. I suspect probably there's a bit of like, there's a bit of comfort in there where taking it off

also means that you get to train without it, which could be important if it becomes, you know, badly damaged. Plus, it needs to be removed for maintenance and stuff. So space marines will quite often maintain their own power armor. So it's like they could probably just stick with it for as long as necessary. But if you're in a safe environment

and you know you've got time to actually work on it and fix it, you're going to want to be out of the suit for a bit. Yeah, tip top shape and all, yeah. So when it comes to put, it on and taking off power armor, it is not quite, what is this? It is not quite as easy as say, taking, I don't know how to pronounce this. And I wasn't going to ask. I was going to wait for this moment, because I think you're going to recognize this where I won't.

Oh, he's making a, okay, he's, he's, he's hitting you with a common writer reference. That's a pro-rise key. Okay. So it's not as easy as taking a progress key, putting it near the authorizer. and putting it into the RISE slot and being covered by the RISE architecture and specifically, write D.K.? Yeah, yeah.

So our editor, our editor script writer found out that I am a rather big common writer dork, which is, it's a, don't worry, if you don't know what it is, it's a big weeby thing. It's essentially like Japanese Power Rangers plus one. More or less think of a Power Rangers transformation,

right? When they did Megasort, and then they're covered in there, yeah. Okay, I've got that one. I can do Power Rangers. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, there you go. More of us. Close enough. As you've probably seen in the very popular Space Marine two cinematic, it can be extremely intuitive and hyper-religious ritual in and of itself,

put it on and taking off Power Armor, with the aid of Servitors, chaplains, and it all goes on piece by piece. On the surface, this may seem like a bit of an excessive thing to this, considering it's like it's the general plating up and dressing down of some dude but it's it's a bit like twofold in this sense so for starters power armour is itself a bit of a relic so it has ties to the history of a chapter that are like they're properly important and result in a lot of care and attention being put into the usage of the armour the second is a bit more practical when you consider that virtually anything that is mechanical that follows a step by step

step process in order 40K is prone to being a ritual due to its direct ties to the admec. So in a sense, one can view the ritual behind the piece by piece removal or placement of the armor as a religious version of following the steps on a tech support manual to make sure everything is in its right place and sealed properly. That artwork is badass. I love that. It really is. I was going to say for like the admec that actually makes sense and honestly just for the space marines, I can see it being sort of very ritualistic. since they are like, more or less they're God's holy warriors, right? And so naturally the taking off of their armor would be seen as like one of these big rituals and these big to-dos and, yeah.

A lot of weight and importance behind it. Mm-hmm, definitely. I can't. There is an insane hailstorm going on and it's incredibly loud. This fucking recording is cursed. Curia! What is happening? What is happening?

Almost dies laughing or coughing and then there's an apocalyptic hailstorm coming through. Damn, Curie. We've had so many, like, clean, just start to finish, no issues, just sorted. And for some reason today, okay, it's not one of those days, okay. I'm sorry, shy, this is going to be awful to edit. It always is. Okay, well, but is that just the ones that, the ones that I'm here for, or is that all of them because

that'll make you feel slightly better. Well, the ones you're here for are usually like, oh, no, here we go. Yeah. Oh, just the ones that are decayed. The decay in it. Man. I love you too shy.

You're great. You are. I was going to say catching strays all over the place, but they're not straight if they're specifically targeted, are they? It's not strays if there's like a sniper scope directly, like constantly in your forehead. So, again, it varies substantially across the board the process of putting on and taking on the army.

You tend to see very elaborate rituals in certain legions, while others are more lax. And it is stated in various books and codexes that power armor is actually fairly easy to remove and put back on in a pinch. And most space marines are preconditioned to understand it. So the theatrical side of things, it's not actually needed all the time. Like if you're on the battle barge You want to take your armor off You might go for the more ritualistic way of doing it If you're just on some Godforsaken planet

Your armor is absolutely ruined from combat You can just strip off yourself pretty easily Gotcha So all that all those art pictures Pretty much just like yeah you're a space marine We want to make a big pomp and circumstance out of it But it's completely unnecessary Yeah that's the fancy way to do things

But you don't have to do it that way if you don't need to Mm-hmm. That kind of goes hand in hand with the creation of the armour as well. So it can take many decades to forge a single suit of power armour and each is maintained with absolute care and devotion by skilled chapter serfs or even the space means themselves. But there is a very key word in that description. It can take many decades. But that's not always the case. In theory, if you've got some form of an STC for armour place, and all the materials needed to do so. It could take several minutes or several hours, especially if you're on a forge world with like a limitless supply of energy to get the job done. Sometimes it does take very little time. There's plenty of books where a resupply of armour happens

in a short amount of time. But like why is it that inconsistent? What is the inconsistency there? The meta reason, that's the, the meta reason, very much a speed is dependent on the narrative bit. So there's probably a bunch of factors that go into it specifically. Being a bit closer to one of the many forge worlds

or armament stations in the galaxy can result in a quicker turnaround while being deep in the void might make materials more scarce. And another primary factor has to do with the surplus of armour any one legion may have. We'll go into it as we discuss the different patterns, but some of the patterns are built off of scraps of other armour. So a legion with access to a lot of spare bits can probably get new armour out there

a bit quicker than others so because of this, plenty of legions are very quick to salvage what they can in the event of something happening to a fallen battle brother to allow for a faster turnaround in the event of them needing to throw a new space marine out into the heat of battle. Yeah, got to make sure you collect that armor

because it's invaluable power armor. Everything to red. And it's a memento of your brothers, so. Yeah, that too. and also just because a forge world is a forge world it doesn't actually mean they'll be able to produce something as intricate as power armor in a quick amount of time. If they're not supplied,

it would be like going to a gas station and asking the person behind the counter to build a car for you. Yeah, that'd be a tough one. Or it's like, oh yeah, we have literally no fuel here. It's like, we'll fill me up anyway and it's like, I don't know what you want from me. Yeah. What am I supposed to do with this?

The tanks are empty. Like, you can nibble at the thing, but like there's nothing in there. can't supply you, yeah. Nibble at the thing? I was going to go for like, you know, I'm not really sure where I was going with that, you know? For some reason, my brain went to like, you know how hamsters kind of have to nibble at the like the water thing?

Yeah. I think that's where my brain was going. And then I was like, no, no, no, this is gas selling. You don't nibble at the gas hose. That's just not a. So anyway, suckle the nozzle, Kyrie. You just got to suckle the nozzle. Oh no

What an episode What an episode of all time It's It's falling apart But that's that's Power for the course Yeah Exactly

Space Marines Yes shy You get it You get I want a version of that picture Where he's wearing a Space Marine helmet That's what I want

That's what I'm after Hell yeah And make sure it's beaky If you do the meme too Make sure it's a beaky helmet Yeah As for the coloring on power armor, pretty much to be expected, it's painted. Ceremite is a flat gray, an unpainted Ceremite is best shown on the cover of Horace Rising.

And the paint used tends to be heavily pigmented lacquer of sorts, but the consistency in type can vary from chapter to chapter. When it comes to painting your armor, on your miniature specifically. Yeah, I was going to say that. I do kind of like that they canonically, their unpainted armor is just like, oh yeah, it's just all gray,

but you can paint in any color you want. Yeah. Yeah. All space marines, even in universe, come off the line in gray plastic styling. Mm-hmm. Love it.

When it comes to, you like painting new miniatures, so many different paint brands, it's ridiculous. So some might choose Citadel, Valleo, Reaper. You can then translate that in universe,

to them just using whatever paint they like or prefer. So wherever they get it, whatever color that they want it, a Legion is not going to specifically request a, like, everyone has to use the same type. They all just do what they like in universe, just as we do when we're painting the ones that we've got. Which I quite like, to be honest. I also like the idea that if you have gone for a super thick, heavy lacquer,

that means that if you choose to paint your space marines and you forget to thin your paints, there's probably some chapter out there who's bad at it. It's probably some chapter that's got big brushstrokes across the shoulder pads. And yours do too. Big lumpy marks where they use too much paint, yeah. Yeah. It's accurate.

That's what you say next time. Next time someone says thin your paints, go, I think you'll find this is law accurate. Yeah, my head canon fan chapter is actually known for their big splotchy paint marks. So learn the more. As for who does the painting or repainting of armour, that just varies from source to source. Most of the time you see the Space Marine who owns it or uses it, repainting the armour. Notably, Loken in the early Horace heresy books is described as tending to his armour

in an almost meditative manner while also lamenting on how this used to be done by Servitors, but we do have instances of others doing it. night lords have artisans in extremely heavy air quotes to do it for them for example and other times it's great those are bombastic air quotes they're very skilled at their work it's fine i bet they are or you can just have a servitor do it or you can have a personal surfer the space marine so just your your little essentially your space butler will repaint your armor if needed.

We're going to go into proper marks of power armour now. So we're going to start out with the early history of it and Mark 1 power armour. So as mentioned earlier, power armour goes way back to ancient Terran history with the Mark 1 armour

being the best example of what things used to look like. To quote an old white dwarf issue, in fact, this is the sort of armour worn by the techno-barbarbarian warriors that dominated the earth. When the Emperor began his conquest of the planet, his retinue was equipped and armed in the same way as the troops of other warlords. The first Space Marines formed part of that retinue and were equipped with the same sort of armour as other warriors of the time.

The Thunderbolt and Lightning emblem on the breastplate of the suit was the personal badge of the Emperor in those days, predating the Imperial Eagle, which only became the symbol of the Imperium much later. This emblem gives the suit its other common name, which is Thunder armour. let's go. Imagine a lawless world where everybody's got power armor and they can use it. That's kind of crazy. Absolutely terrifying. Yep, yep, you need Thunder Wars for that one for sure. Don't love that.

The Mark I Thunder Armor is like the true definition of a relic in the realm of like contemporary armaments. And it's noticeably clunky compared to the modern equivalents. due to the fact that the soldiers were in the armour were not the extremely genetically modified super soldiers that the space marines became, they had hardly any of the functions that are now baseline requirements in modern power armour. And when you think about it, that makes sense. This armour was mostly used to help reconquer terror and terror alone, so all they needed to do was be stronger than the other guy on terror. There's no need to go into the void.

There's no need to adapt to new habitats or atmospheres. You just need to be big, armoured and punchy, and that's pretty much what the Thunder Armoured did. It increased the strength of the wearer by almost four times their normal strength. That's not a bad power upgrade. And when you want to punch someone in the face, that's what you're looking for.

Definitely, definitely. It was deliberately huge due to the fact that the majority of combat was close combat. combat on terror during that time. So it was like deliberately like, well, we're all hitting each other with sticks and swords. We need to be much better at hitting each other with sticks and swords than anyone else. Is the person inside the Thunder Armor still kind of like genetically modified at this point and like a super soldier? Or is it just like, oh yeah, you are our biggest, strongest dude.

We haven't necessarily genetically modified you, but get your ass in the power armor because you're our best fighter. So Thunder Warriors were genetically altered, but are not in the same way that Space Marines were. Like, space marines are the kind of, they're the honed version. They're a lot more controlled. They have a huge amount of longevity. As far as, I think at this point, as far as anyone can really tell, they are basically immortal in that they're not likely to die of old age. And sickness doesn't really do anything to them. but they obviously die in combat a lot,

so the upper limits of how long a space marine can live, there's only a few that have lasted a really long time because they're in the most dangerous job in the galaxy, which is fighting things forever, literally, whereas Thunder Warriors, yeah, as shy says, like a hack job, they were stronger and faster, and they were also massively unstable and just were not designed to last for any real length of time.

They had a shelf life from the beginning. Okay, okay. Because, I mean, they are the frontline combat warriors, so you probably don't expect them to live that long anyway, so that makes sense. And they were designed for effectively conquest of one planet, and then they were expected to just either die in the process of doing that Or die because the emperor didn't want them anymore.

Space was supposed to be more than that once the wars were done if they ever were done. I was going to say, or be mercilessly hunted down by your creator. One or the other, right? You either die in combat or your creator will set you down and exterminates all of you. Either or. Either is fine. They do have cool sunglasses, though. That is true.

Oh, they do. Those are very slick, yeah. the combination of the helmet and the sunglasses is so good. So, yeah, the Thunder armour, it was loud and clunky, and it was mostly used for throwing Thunder Warriors of people. And that was it. Once it was a case of leaving terror, having recaptured the planet, like Thunder Armour was not going to cut it.

There's just not enough protection. There's not enough in the way of keeping Legionnaires safe from the void from various other habitats, it had to be replaced by something a bit harder. So that's where we get the Mark 2 and Mark 3 armours. So having reclaimed Terra, Luna and Mars, the Emperor needed to begin to branch outwards. So the space marines he created during this time

were adorned with Mark 2 armour. Due to its usage in the infancy of the Great Crusade, that pattern of armour is now known as Crusade armour. and from the start already massive glow-up compared to Thunder armour. The Crusade armour is fully enclosed with built-in life support systems, environmental adjustment systems, allowing the suit to be utilised in different atmospheres regardless of toxicity. The vast majority of the above-mentioned necessities found in all contemporary forms of power armour

were first utilised in that crusade armour. And that armour is also the one that tends to be affiliated more with the usage of like knight-like patterns of space marine helmets such as the stygian pattern and decimator pattern helms. There is something missing in this armour though. So there is one thing to note with this armour that tends to vary from source to source. Head articulation, which is lacking technically. So in the vast majority of sources it's stated that the Crusade armour's helmet is not movable.

So the space marine could move his head around inside the helmet, but you couldn't turn the helmet. It was always front facing. Oh, that seems like a very, very terrible design choice. Like, I mean, even if that space marine was an owl and could do a 180 with their head, that big old clunky backpack is going to, you know, make things a problem. But like, that helmet does not move side to side so they can't look to their left, look to their right.

They just have to stay looking forward. Like, they can move it inside their helmet, but, like, that seems like a very, very poor design choice. My assumption is that it's something to do with keeping it airtight and keeping it, like, see when it comes to being out in space and stuff. But, yeah, it's an interesting choice because if you can't turn the head independently of the chest, how do you respond quickly to, like, external threats that are on either side? Do you turn your whole upper body? do you like a ballerina pirouette?

Like what? How do you, how do you respond? And the thing is... Tank controls, right? You just move your whole damn catch. Your whole upper half. You got to rotate it. Yeah.

The thing is that this is a thing that Games Workshop wrote about the armor. However, Forge World released models that gave the creator the ability to move the head around. So it wasn't just stagnant and front facing. So it's caused a bit of like chatter as to what is or isn't the truth about how that crusade pattern armour works. And Games Workshop actually addressed this in a Warhammer community post that had a little factoid that just said, did you know? The Mark two's helmet was

originally fixed to the gorge it, meaning it would not turn with the wearer's head. When Forge World released sets of Mark two armor, they redesigned the helmets to enable more modelling options. So in universe, the helmets were fixed to the gorget and so couldn't turn. But when it came to the models, they decided, we want people to be able to turn the heads so that the poses aren't just all static, you know, straight on. Yeah. Which then just meant that what was actually written in the books didn't quite match the models. But let's face it, it's not going to be the first time that's happened. So Canon, head doesn't move, tabletop, sure, let the head move. Pretty much. Okay. Yeah. Also, Shai said she likes the Mark 2 better than the beaky arm because the helmet looks so cool, which it does look really sick. The sort of almost medieval looking helmet on like the futuristic power armor does look really cool.

And the single visor, I love the single visor. It looks awesome. Definitely. Mm-hmm. there is a comment that I do have to just, you know, finish, finish that bit off with. There you have it. Capitalism making people turn their heads yet again. Thanks, Possum. Well, well, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Not wrong. Sure. So, this particular pattern is viewed by some legions of some of the best armor out there,

despite how difficult it is to repair. and there are some legions that utilize crusade pattern in some capacity still, although obviously a lot more limited at this point. Due to their usage more so at the beginning of the crusade, you begin to see a drop in the usage of them closer to the end of the crusade due to Horus, but not directly because of the heresy. Horace's tenureship as Warmaster resulted in him working really hard to rapidly rearm the stronger and more favoured legions

with the Mark 4 armour while the Crusade pattern was sort of relegated to the realm of like hand-me-downs and in terms of space, very prominent in those not close by who could not get new armaments. But before we get to the Mark 4 armour, we do need to talk about the Mark 3, which I, Mark 3 I think was my favourite. And then they changed the look of the helmets and that upset me because the helmets used to look a lot closer to the Mark 2. But instead of having a single visor, they had two, two eye lenses. And then for some reason, when they redesigned Mark 3, they decided to give all of them

a spike on top of the head and change the grill pattern. And I've not liked them as much since, which is a real shame. Because before I was like, these are the best. And now I'm like, ugh. Yeah, as soon as you said spike on top of the head, I was like, that sounds awful, actually. It works for death, God. And I don't know literally anyone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Other than Death Guard, yeah, I don't think it works terribly well on the other ones. Yeah, that's right, I forgot the Death Guard. Do have that silly little spike, don't they? But yeah, it kind of works for those goofy little dudes. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that looks terrible. It's the helmet. Is the actual armor itself?

Great. The helmet feels more or less the same. But yeah, that, yeah, don't love that. Yeah, not a fan. I think it's literally just the spike. That spike just for me just looks really out of place on just normal space marine armor. Yeah, it's it's it just sticks out in a weird way, literally and figuratively. It's like a Christmas tree top, right?

Put a star on it. Yeah. Put a little angel up there, yeah. So unlike the other armor patterns that serve as like a step up or a reimagining of the prior pattern, the Mark 3 armor was meant to be an alternative pattern to the Crusade pattern that was relative to the type of combat it was involved in. So the extremely strong and resilient Mark 3 armour was known as iron armour for this reason and it was more or less a variant of the Crusade armour that was designed to act as like an extreme

defensive pattern. It's designed to be like a wall compared to the crusade pattern and even the helmet designs for the iron armour are designed to glance and deflect bullet or lash shots. Iron armour absolutely perfect for tight quarter situations and for holding the line but it was not meant to deck out an entire legion. But you do still see it used by some legions more than others. Notably, iron hands and imperial fists absolutely love the iron armor. That makes sense. I feel like Iron Warriors also quite liked it as well.

But it's my bias. Yep. It's okay. You can have your bias. It's fine. But they're the best. They're fine. You know.

We're going to have a falling out. Right. Listen, man, I like the, I like the thousand sons, all right? Like, I really don't have any place to be judging anybody else, right? There's only a bloody thousand of us, right? What do I care what you're doing? Oh, yeah, I think that is. He's got the single visor, but the actual armor itself looks more like,

it's more like Mark 3 than Mark 2 is there. Ooh. Yeah, that looks good. Good. I actually haven't played PVP for long enough to notice. Yeah, those goddamn heavies. But heavy balters. It's the best thing about bolters in general. We also have Mark 4 and Mark 5, and they kind of comprise some interesting and fun step-ups. So the next great step in power armor came in the form of the Mark 4 armor, also known as the Imperial Mact.

Axiomus suit, solid name. This pattern took a few steps back in articulation in favor of more rapid production. So it was much lighter, much more easy to maintain, but it utilized a much higher output of power. Higher output of power compared to the prior models. Good Lord. Word soup, right? There was something in there, and I found it eventually. This was also built to utilize some of the found tech that was reclaimed throughout the crusade as well.

And funnily enough, it was the first armour pattern that allowed for proper head articulation. Plus, along with the head articulation, it's also the first pattern to allow for proper neural connection. So the Imperial Maximus armour was meant to be, in a sense, the final standard of power armour to be utilised by the, Imperium, which is why Horace was quick to try and get out as many suits as he could preemptively to his more favoured lesions. However, there's a mild problem with that, which was the Horace heresy. Yeah. Also, that is some rough art of the first sport armor. That is a rough picture. I don't know what it is about that specific picture of it, but there's just something, it's like it's low detail, but it's not.

I think it's the proportions because it is so insanely top heavy. And then like the waist and like the sort of, I hate to say this, but the crotch region, you just sort of like thin out. And it's got such like spindly legs almost that it just looks very

awkward and top heavy, I think. I think that's the problem. And then the arms kind of look stubby with those big shoulder guards too. So it's just, I think the proportion just make it look super weird. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like the actual models look better than that bit of art does. Yeah, yeah.

And that model that Chai just posted looks good from whatever video game that's from. That looks great. Yeah, so... Yeah, that model looks way better to me. Oh, yeah, that model looks fantastic, for sure. But that first art of it just looked a little, like they messed up their proportions a little. You know what? I reckon it's the pose on that art because he's just standing here, like legs apart, arms down.

it shows how weird the proportions are on those old marines whereas with that one, because there's like one foot forward a little bit, you've got one arm down but the other one raised, it just feels more... I don't know. Yeah, yeah, the guy looking like he's alive, it makes the armour look better.

I don't know how else to put it. Mm-hmm. I go with them. So when the Horace actually happened, those who sided with Horus, obviously, turned traitor, the supply lines for the new pattern of armour became deliberately ruptured, and the ability for the loyalists to make this armour were few and far between, except for the iron hands, obviously, because of course they can make it. They can make anything. This is why a remarkable chunk of traitor lesions cap out of this pattern,

and the starving of the Imperial Maximus pattern to the loyalists gave chaos a bit of an advantage from the get-go by means of speed and versatility. So Horace really, he really pulled a number on the loyalists with how this stuff was distributed early on. Because he, he makes a deal with the, does he make a deal with Mars? The Mars ad mech to just be like, hey, you work for me now, right? Yeah, the current, or like at the time of the heresy, the fabricated general sided before us. I was trying to remember what the name of the dude was

And I was like, I can't remember I know it's like really big ad mech dude on Mars And it's like, hey, cut their supply lines Fabricator General Is it Kelbol, Kelbol, Kelbol, Kelbol, Kherbal, Kerbal Space Program? I think it's either Kerbal or Calibol. Honestly, I would have said curbel. One of the two.

Curbel space program, yeah. But yeah, yeah, but he makes a deal with them and it's like, hey, you're going to cut off the my dad's forces in the Empire, right? or the Imperium. Empire Imperium. Same thing, right? Yeah, it's the same word. Yeah.

Pretty much. Oh, nailed it. Kelbor Hal. Can't believe. How did I get that right? But I accidentally called that other dude Harold Worldclaimer. How is that possible? And that meme still lives on today.

And we love, we love Harry. I still see Harold World Claimer pop up. It's ridiculous. We love him. We love our boy. We love our boy, Harry. Yep. Especially in the Knackman-Gonelet episode where that was

literally the thumbnail. Yeah, it was. That was great. Was him being Sigma, yeah. So the loyalists, they had to figure something out when it came to the Mark 4 armour. Some of them did manage to get re-equipped with it, but many didn't. And the mass production of anything new was a bit of a pipe dream.

And in addition to that, replacement pieces for anything loyalist related were becoming harder and harder to come by. So the legions themselves had to instead cobble together various pieces of crusade and iron armor patterns. Okay. Oh, oh wait, we've got an old school Mark 3 Marine, the better one. Oh, wait, no, that's not the one I was thinking of. Jesus.

Oh, no. That is an old one. It's stubby Jason Vorhees in ultramarine armor. Oh, no. That is, uh, it's a look. Yeah. It's, it's a strong look. that's a that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a goal that's a old school goalie mask

wow I thought we were going to go for the for the middle one the one that's after that one but before the other ones that we saw but no we got a hit with yeah that's a Halloween costume who are home my god those old minis were something else huh it's crazy to look at that and just see how far GW has come with their minis though like it's it's insane It's wild. I mean, I know it's like, when did that mini come out? Like, I don't know, 1989 or something. And it's like, yeah, it's 20, 25. They should be a little better now, right?

It's the level of, it's the level of like development and kind of increased detail and stuff that always gets me with looking at old stuff versus this is new stuff. The new stuff, yeah. Look at him. Look at him. He's so. The new ones are ever so slightly, bit. A little better. Just a little bit.

You versus the guy she tells you not to worry about, right? I was just about to say that. Hell, yeah. Oh, God. Okay, the legions, the loyalist ones, they had to cobble together some power armor, right? So they got crusade pattern and iron armor patterns,

along with like random pieces of just Imperial Maximus armor to make new suits, despite being literally held together. with duct tape or in this case molecular bonding studs which is what gives this pattern is notable look this armor was really like shockingly advanced due to just how much tech was just thrown together for it but there is a downside which is weight very dense very strong but since it was essentially two or three separate power armours in one it was heavy and not super maneuverable yeah it does it doesn't look very maneuverable. It does look big and clunky and yeah, you know, until you

had said that I'd never noticed all the little bolts and I just kind of thought that was an armor thing. It's like, oh, that's why they're there. There's a great... So that's the Mark 3 there and then the upper ones of the Mark 4. I wonder if I've still got the picture, the picture,

which was... It's some of the... Oh, what are they called? The Carcadon Astra in Mark 5 armor. Whoa. They look so good. Yeah, it's so strange. That's like the same pose, same proportions, but that looks so good, shy, that one. Yeah, it does.

Same armor, but I guess all the little details really like make it just pop, I guess, a little bit more. But that looks so much better. Oh, I don't have it. I thought I did. But the, yeah, the Mark 5 armor, it looks great because it's like, it's just, We have to build something out of all this stuff we have. Chuck it all together. Layer it up.

That also causes an issue. So super heavy, not very maneuverable. It also was prone to dramatic overheating because you're just layering armor on top of armor in the hype of making something that works. And there is an attempt to curb this in the more ventilated mask that is pretty much exclusive to this pattern. That would then be reworked into Terminator armour.

And retroactively, the Mark V pattern was denoted as heresy armour and sort of marks a visual representation of the Imperium barely holding itself together during its greatest crisis. The armour is sold and worn in contemporary 40K, but it does happen from time to time. There we go. Oh, look at that. Oh, wow.

Look at the Carcaden colours on that armour. It's so good. honestly this armor looks really dope like it's really really menacing like those big studs like give it a really pronounced like unique look oh it's real cool oh I like that a lot this is what Mark 5 you said

sort of is yeah I like that this is the Mark 5 pattern also also also not available in plastic it's still It's not. Of course not. Of course not.

I believe. Which, yeah. I mean, there's, there's, you know, it looks like heresy is getting another edition at some point in the next however long. So hopefully we get, I would love, I would love, love plastic Mark five. That was the best. Honestly, if you didn't tell me, you're like, oh, and you, like, you hid the Herald's, I would assume it was chaos armor. I would assume it was traitor, like, traitor space marine stuff. It's, it's one of those things again where somehow the traitors,

ended up with the armor that looks very, very imperium. And the Imperium has ended up with the armor that looks absolutely brutal and like it's being used by the enemy. Yeah. I mean, they did have to cobble it together. So, like, I get it, but it's like, damn, that still looks really cool. It's great. Plus, other space marines, like, space marines, no. If they see another battle brother wearing this armor, they are given major respect due to it being a symbol of resilience.

destroying the heresy. But it's not always the best because it's also common in Chaos Space Marine Legions. And seeing armor held together by bonding studs could be an indication of a chaos invasion.

So... Right. Oh, what are these minis? These look like those in mini... Those are great. I love... I don't know. Something about those like those

bonding studs, it really adds something to that. armor. I love that. It does. Yeah. I don't even know what it is necessarily. It just makes it look, I think, like, beefier. Yeah, something about it just looks really, really dope. I really like that vibe. They seem like it gives the impression of being heavily up-armored, but I couldn't necessarily tell you why. Because I thought that even before I knew what the basis of it was, it just always looked like heavier and more protective than other marks of armor. And it's all about studs.

I just mentally ruin this armor for myself. Because I was like, you know, it kind of looks like every time they walk, they would jingle. Like if they just jingle bells, they're just chik, chik, and now I'm like, oh, no, it's Christmas armor now in my head. Oh, no. It's like Santa on a sleigh with all the bells. Oh, no. used to think it looks so cool and now it's just Christmas art. You spoke it for yourself.

I did. I hate it here. I know. That's not. That's not Christmas. Look, all you need to do is reset yourself by seeing something that really is Christmas by looking at the Logan Grimnar model when he's on the sleigh with the two wolves. Because that's Santa and he doesn't have any bonding studs.

True. You're right. You're right. Also, that one shy just posted is like varied. Now we're reset. I think we're good. I think we're good again. Badass.

Absolutely badass. Hell yeah. After the Mark 5, after the Heresy armor, we've got, funnily enough, the Mark 6 armor. Whoa. I know. Shocking. Shocking. But it would have, the Mark 6 would have likely been the Mark 5 had it not been for the outbreak of the heresy.

So it was initially started in conjunction with the Mark 4 to make. make a bit of a sturdier variant. And the prototype of the Mark 6 armour is utilised first during the Scalland campaign, which saw the Ravenguard battle the Eldar. And the Ravenguard at the time was selected to conduct this operation despite some heavy losses, and very much could have been an attempt by a Mr Peter Turbo to axe the production of the Mark 6 from the get-go. Because Perciarabo was vocally a hater of the Mark 6 armour. And he thought, it was flaky and fragile, which it actually kind of was, but he was seemingly hopeful that if the initial mission with this eventual Mark 6 armour failed, that would result in the entire

project being canned and instead might end up with a more bulky variance akin to the Mark 3 armour. So a little bit of corporate sabotage from the world's, from the world's, like, world's bitterest Primark I mean it looks pretty great honestly like it's fine

it's still got it's still got some of the studs on the shoulders which is still cool so yeah that's I'm okay with this it definitely looks better on the Raven Guard

than on the Iron Warriors though the Iron Warriors scheme just doesn't work on Mark 6 and I don't know why Mm-hmm I agreed

agreed it looks too stealthy and we know the iron warriors are kind of cursed yeah I just It just doesn't work

It's like, you know, some people just can't wear hats I'm one of them. I can't really wear a hat. I'm worried is they can't wear a beaky. It just doesn't work. Wow, that's an Iron Man coated Beaky set of armor there, isn't it? Or Iron Man.

That's your boys. Oh, oh, that's the, I guess that would be pre-Harrison 1000s. Yeah, pre-Harrison 1000s. I don't know why I was expecting the, like, if it was going to, to be thousand cents. I would have expected the gold part on the helmet to be white for some reason. Oh, maybe. I was thinking that was just someone being like, look at me, I'm Ironman

because it's red and gold. Oh, man, and I've got the white thing on my chest, you know? Look at all the rooms, though. Look at all the inscriptions. You're right. The thigh does have a lot of runes and inscriptions on it. And even the gun looks, yeah, yeah. So much heresy. So much heresy. So much. It's all, yep. Despite the very thin line of fatigued ravengarsmen, they were actually successful and they did succeed against the Eldar. And the new prototype armour actually allowed them to be more agile and quick to respond, which resulted in the total removal of the Eldar from the Scallon sector. And so due to it being an overwhelming success, the Mark 6 pattern was dubbed Corvus armor in honour of Corvus Corax. so he took the attempt to sabotage and he just succeeded anyway.

Hell yeah, brother. We, we love it. What do you think of Nightlord? What do you think of Nightlord? In like Mark 6 with a beaky. In favor? Well, not in favor. I can't like it.

I think that works. I don't know. I think something about like the lightning bolts on the beaky helmet don't work. I think if it was just a blue helmet, I'd be okay with it. I'm not sure why the lightning bolts on the helmet are bothering me, though. It feels like the bee key is, that the helmet is super specific for some reason. Yeah. It only looks good in some colors. I don't really know why that is. Because like the one right next to him looks great. The other one's great, but something about that night lord one, like, it's just blue.

blue with lightning bullet patterns and for some reason it just, it's not doing it for me. Oh, I quite like the, quite like the emperor's children in the purple. That looks pretty decent. Oh, yeah, that looks all right. No. No, no, it's not the armor for them. World Eaters nine warriors should never be in this armor. It just doesn't work.

Oh, yeah, the, the night lord with the scary face. That looks way better. Yeah, that looks really, yeah, that's way more nightlords coded than just, yeah, yeah. I like that. I'm down with that. That's an improvement. The corvus armor is one of the lightest variants of the power armours. So it's designed for speed and the, like between the very thin lines between the placing to the now famous conical front of the helmet, the corvus armor was built for heightened awareness and rapid response.

But despite the nose piece being designed for speed, it was also extended to house more sensory equipment that, wouldn't have fit in other power armor helmet types. So, like, even the space walls have a variant of it. But, you know, they didn't go for bird. They wanted to match their persona. So they took it a slightly different route, as they usually do. Yeah, they made a wolf helmet, didn't they? You know it.

Of course they did. Hell yeah. They did. Hell yeah. It also has the studded left shoulder pad that many believe was done in honor of those who fought against Horace during the Siege of Terror. Oh, God, fuck, that model. I can't stand that.

I can't stand the helmet. Really? I think it looks kind of cool. I don't know why. I just don't like it. Am I the only one that likes it? Also, I love the fact that they're using, I love the fact using the studs as a homage

to the previous armor. I think that's really cool. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. I just, that helmet just, it's never sat right with me. It just doesn't look quite, right and I couldn't tell you why.

And there will be people, and I'm calling out specifically those of you who are going to say this, because I know you were going to, who will say, ah, but in like, was it the third edition of version of whatever Space Wolf

character had this helmet, or it was available in one of the kits in like 1999 or whatever. I know that. I'm very aware of that. Fully aware. I didn't like it then either. So it might be a callback

But it's a callback to something that I also didn't like So that's worthless to me I think it looks cool But I also get it because it's very not Space Marine It's not a beaky helmet It's not like the normal it's it's very like It's just too different

Yeah I think that's the main thing It just it doesn't feel like It doesn't feel like a 40K helmet Yeah definitely. It feels like it's from some other franchise. Yeah. Yeah. I do. There are people who like it and they are wrong, says shy. Okay. No bias. There you go. It's settled. That's been settled. We can move on. So. Yep. Yep. Yep. Moving right along. Yep. Next, next suit. The Corvass armor, it was one of the most widely utilized armist during the end stages of the heresy because it was, you know, fairly rapid in terms of production. And, immediate deployment and the fact that all of the loyalist legions were given this armour, despite

some of them not particularly favouring it. And as far as patents are concerned, it's still one of the most widely used. So it's stuck around even now. Mm-hmm. Now, towards the end stage of the heresy, we've got the Mark 7 and Mark 8. So there was one final major development in standard space marine power armor towards the final end or final stages of the heresy. Under the watchful eye of fabricator Locum Zagrius Kane, armor was designed to take some of the more innovative tech in the Mark 6 pattern, while also bringing back the sturdier and more guard-like structure of the Mark 3 pattern. So the Mark 7 armours production was moved from Mars to terror to assure its security so that Horace and the traitors didn't get hold of it. And the Mark 7 armor was rolled out.

out and serves as the last major armor innovation prior to the Primaris project. So the Mark 7 is either Aquila or Eagle armor. And it's pretty much the one that you think of when it comes to just general generic space marines. It's like, it's the firstborn armor, the stuff that's been available for the longest, pretty much. The quintessential poster armor for a space marine. Yes.

Yeah, exactly that. So we've lost the studs from like the Mark 5 and Mark 6 armour. We've lost the beaky helmet. Instead, we've got your very classic space marine helm. And it's designed to be as versatile as the Corvus pattern, but also to be more sturdy and a bit less agile. And unlike the other patterns, the Aquila armour features its own backup power supply embedded into the armour itself.

So it can operate in a functional manner for a period of time with out a backpack attached. Oh, that's a nice upgrade. Pretty major change. Because I was going to say, if you're chaos, like you're a chaos base brain, you know the power armor. It's like, oh, yeah, why don't we just aim for their power pack? That, because actually does that happen a lot?

We're like, say before this armor upgrade, would people specifically be like, oh, yeah, blow out their power armor? It's going to make them immobile. And they can't move anymore because they can't power it. Now that you say that, I don't know that I've necessarily. necessarily read in any books that it's like specifically, okay, we need to get rid of the power pack, but you would think that that would be a prime target, especially when it's chaos versus loyalist, right?

Especially. Like, I get it if like the Tao don't realize that that's a thing or like the Eldar maybe don't realize that's a thing. But a traitor, space marine should absolutely be like, well, that's a big glaring target that you can't defend because it's just. a big pack on your back. Yeah. I would have thought that would be like route one.

It's just, okay. Go for the vents at the very least. You could like significantly damage it. Maybe that is something that it just happens, but it's not really written about. Yeah. Well, they specifically had to make, they specifically had to make this one like,

oh, hey, there's a backup generator in case, you know, the power pack blows up. Yeah. Yeah. I like that as a, like, a bit of innovation though. Yeah. That's a good innovation. We could do with a little bit of just a bit of extra juice in the tank just in case. Yeah, a little fail-safe redundancy, sure.

This armour was being made around the same time as the Corvus Armour. So something else that makes it quite effective is being able to exchange parts with that armor in like a backwards compatible manner. So like the repair and upkeep of this armor is way easier than prior patterns. because the culvis armour is extremely popular and has lasted a long time. That means the Mark 7 and the Mark 6 being not necessarily quite interchangeable, but being able to take parts from one to replace on another. It just gives it massive amounts of longevity. It makes it easy to fix if things go wrong.

And then before we get to Primaris, we've got like the final pattern of pre-primaris, which is the Mark 8 armour, which is errant. and this pattern exceptionally beefy, and very modified version of the Inquilla armour, and it's more commonly used by the veterans of any given Legion. So the armour is another stack of protection compared to the prior pattern. Care was taken to cover up as many exploits as possible.

It's got a heavy reinforced collarbone-like structure to prevent neck shots, and a unique helmet design that's only compatible with the errant armour's design. and because it's so bulky and reinforced, you don't actually tend to see too many examples of errant armor out on the battlefield, but if you are familiar with Death Watch, you will have seen it quite a lot because it's the pattern of choice for them.

That's pretty cool armor. I like the big neckguard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that looks great. Gives it a very like another sort of menacing aspect of the armor. and it's really recognizable for the Death Watch like as soon as you see that massive collar with the little like divver in the front Yeah

Death Watch are cool Games Workshop should stop ignoring them Yeah they should do something in a space rain game More than just like an opening intro thing for it or something right Yeah and maybe give us the armor as cosmetic items Instead of pretending it doesn't exist for God's sake That'd be really really cool anyway.

We now have Mark X, so we're in the modern era. Belisarius Call is here, and it wasn't just the space marines that he showed up with. He was ready to bless the Imperium with Primarious Space Marines and their armor as well. So with the advent of the Primaris project and the creation of bigger and bad Marines, Belizarius Call decided that the old patterns wouldn't cut it,

during the events of the Indomitus Crusade, and made like Games Workshop, and released a slight variant of the old thing for a much higher premium. Shocking. Okay, okay. So Primaris armor can be worn not just by like the Primaris Space Marines

that call made. Any Space Marine can have Primaris Space Marine armor Mark X. Nope, Mark X is Primaris only. Firstborn use the previous marks of armour, generally mark seven or mark six. And then pretty much

that's their lot. Primaris, they get Mark X and no one else does. I see. Firstborn don't really fit into it for a start. Oh really? Yeah. Primaries are taller than Firstborn. They're effectively the slightly more

super super soldiers. They're just a slight upgrade in every way. They're taller. They are effectively a little bit faster, a little bit hardier. They're just like a slight upgrade, but they are, they are like physically quite, quite a bit bigger. Have the Primera Space Marines ever tried killing Space Marines to see if they're shockingly adept at it yet? Or no.

I mean, to be honest, space marines are already pretty good at killing Space Marines, so I'm assuming that they'd be pretty decent. Yeah, it's the kind of most versatile. style sleek sort of coolest armor that you can get yogurt from spaceballs voice i don't know the name of yogurt from space balls i'm sorry possum but just merchandising merchandising merchandising merchandising over and over again um so this is also known as like tax so there's tactica which is designed to be far more modular in its construction which meant that the primaries marines are able to act more in a mr potato head capacity in that they can switch out different pieces

I'm loving the examples being used today from different sub-patterns that could be used by other units. So a fairly common X pattern is the Gravis pattern which switches out some of the lighter armour with more heavy armour plating and it serves as like an in-between of Primaris Marine and Terminator.

So sacrificing mobility and functionality with heavier armour. You tend to see Gravis pattern being used by commanders but you also see it with eradicator squads as well and despite it being heavy, there is a jump pack version, and that tends to be seen in Inceptor squads. So big, bulky, heavily armored dudes dropping down with hilarious, very long-scoped heavy rifles and shooting the hell out of people.

It's an insane thing that Games Workshop did, and I'm still wondering why, but you know what? I approve. Is that what it looks like? Yeah. Oh, my God. That looks... Oh, that's... Oh.

I don't know why I thought that was just all the... Well, that's so... Actually, when you look more at it, it looks be weirder and weirder. I mean, it's insane. It's just a mad thing to do. Yeah, like, when I first looked at that first picture, I thought that was, like, all, like, the sides of his jump pack were, like, his shoulders. And I was like, oh, wow, what a big, beefy lad.

And it was like, wait a minute. That's his bad. Oh, he's still a big beefy lad. He's just got a huge jump pack because his... Yeah. legs are super heavily armored. He's got an up-armored chest as well, and he's basically carrying two heavy bolters. Yeah.

The mini looks a lot better. The mini looks great and content of those guts. They're just insane. I don't know what they were thinking. They're hilarious. It's just like, what are you doing? And the thing is, those ones are even weirder. So you've got the gravist stuff, right?

Also, imagine a magazine-fed 50-calf machine. descending from the sky as well. That's kind of nuts. That's a little crazy. You've got the Favis. You also have the other end of the spectrum. You've got the Fobos pattern, which is way lighter,

meant for mobility, speed. It's very lightweight, meaning that it's more prone to damage, but the Fobos pattern is almost completely silent, they can get an essential piece of equipment for the more stealthy, close combat river squads. I just smashed my elbow on the dead. I didn't hear it. Wouldn't have known.

Oh, I felt it. The final major pattern for the Mark X is the Omnis pattern. So this is the stuff that's used by the Vanguard suppressor squads. So the guys with the big long guns. It's interesting this. So this pattern basically puts together some of the stuff from the Gravis pattern, along with the very like Phobos pattern. So it's like a mix of the lightest version of Mark X, the heaviest version of Mark X,

so that you get those guys with the hilarious long guns who have got super-armoured legs, but then light armour up top and a jump pack on the back. Huh. So it's the opposite of what we just saw. Pretty much, yeah. It's so weird, dude I was going to say that sounds really strange I like how modular it is

and it is kind of fun that there's some out there stuff in it but it's just like I don't know it kind of feels like me when I go into like an RPG or something where I don't fully understand mechanics and I'm just like yeah that bit of armour or do that bit of armour and it's like oh you're wearing silk gloves

and a breastplate that wears as much as 10 men why are you doing it? Why have you got like super heavy armour? on one bit, but you're wearing no shoes. What is wrong with you? It feels like that. The classic JRP thing where like you're going for the best stats, you end up like with a Roman helmet with the big swooshing mohawk,

but then you've also had a clown nose, a tank top, flip-flops, and chain mail shorts, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like you're in Eldon Ring, you're fighting Melania or whatever. And it's like, oh, I need to be able, I need to be able to roll. I need to be able to, to, to fast roll because this is bad. I'm getting embodied here. What do I have?

Well, I still want to keep the, I still want to keep the massive boots because they've got some decent defense on him. So I guess wedding dress along with grieves. Yeah, sure. Like that's all nonsense. It feels like that. The amount of times I've gone into a fight and been like, you know what, I don't need pants. I just have to hope I can dodge out of the way properly because I really like this big heavy weapon

I really like this big heavy armor but God these pants are weighing me screw it I'm going in no pants no pants dance baby let's go yeah that's exactly the one that's the other one I hate that in Fromsoft games particularly when you find a weird armor but it has the best stats it's like oh this is great I don't wear it because I look like an idiot I guess I look like an idiot then cool I guess I'm gonna look like a giant onion Yeah, like a really massive onion.

Yep, yep, thanks for them soft. Love it. Right, we've got a couple of specialist armour left. So we will quickly talk about artificer armour and things like ruin armour for the space wolves. So artificer armour sets, like they are highly specialised, unique armour sets. They tend to be worn by just one person, a legion that's enshrined upon their death. So as opposed to other sets of armour, this tends to have like a visual history of the Marines' life, constantly repaired and fixed, got unique decorations, cosmetic upgrades. Because of all of that, should come as no surprise that the salamanders tend to have quite a bit more in the artificer camp due to their forging know-how and their craftsmanship being very accessible within their chapter. That's actually quite a cool little...

With all the skulls in it? Wow, that looks dope. It's... Oh, that's so nice. It's really fun. Because it can look different every time. Every suit is personalized and customized. And due to the longevity of the armor and the constant state of repair and rebuilding,

it tends to be better protection-wise than just something straight off the factory floor. And some of the veterans will prefer to wear this armor to show their ranking and prestige instead of Terminator armour that they've earned due to their longevity and service. So there's like a status thing as well. Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Yeah, pretty much all named characters wear artificer armor. That makes sense, that they would have sort of the unique heraldry that is the story of a space marines, like, yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. There's a few notable pieces. So there's the armor currently worn by Azriel of the Dark Angels. known as the protector. Ezekiel of the Dark Angels is also known to be wearing another artificer piece known as Secret Shield. And funnily enough, the best boy, Dante, he's also got Artificer Armour, as well as Mephistan for the Blood Angels as well.

All of those have got their very heavily customized Artifice Arama suits. Poor Dante. That man just wants to die. He's done. He's ready to go. No one else in the history of fiction has deserved. a retirement than him. Or than Dante.

Did we ever determine how many service studs he would actually have? Oh God. I don't know. It would just be his entire head. His head would look like one of those Mark 5 pauldron. That was like the joke we made is like that's the way where's the mask is because like there's just no face under there.

It's just all service studs. The mask is magnetic. He just puts it over all the metal studs and it holds it in place. He's 1100 years old. That's a long time for anyone. He's 1100 years old and he is a space marine and he basically exists to fight horrific nightmare creatures and other space marines. So.

Yeah. He's good at what he does though. To be fair. He is. I mean, maybe he should try being a little bit worse and you might get that retirement that he's after. Yeah. Throw the fight just because you want. want to take a break.

He can't do that in his face. No, he can't do it. He might want to die, but it's like, I can't just throw the fire. Come on. You can't ignore your duty, even if you haven't been doing it for that one. So he can have 11 studs because there's 100 years of a service stud, but he can wear 110 studs if he feels adventurous since there's a 10 years service stud. Oh, my God. 11 studs is still so many.

That's so crazy. not enough space on the forehead for that. Unless you're Bricky. Bricky's got enough room for 11 of them. Bricky's got enough for the 100, right? Brickie's got enough for the 110 up there. Is that the next bit of, is that the next bit of art that we need to see. Bricky with 110 service studs.

Yeah, for sure. Hell yeah. Just present it to him next time he's back, but not explain what's happened. Don't explain the bit. Have you been watching Bricky? We'll know. how do you feel about this armor? Oh, there's something to aim for.

So when it comes to Artifier Armour, like the armour of the Primax, generally speaking, that's considered Artifacer Armour as well. So you've got like the Dragon Scale of Vulcan, the Armour Elavagar of Lehman Rus. It's all, you know, they all have their own personalized suits that they wear. There's also like unique variants of Power Armor as well. So some chapter-specific and like situation-specific armour that doesn't really fit into the primary part of the patterns above,

you've got things like void-hardened armour. So VHA for short, it's heavily modified power armour designed with the express knowledge that the wearer is going to be experiencing extended conflict within the void of space. So as a baseline, most power armour can protect the wearer for short bursts in space, but the VHA is meant for the extremities of being out there for a long time and the changes for that include things like reinforced plating to protect the wearer from radiation and other interstellar phenomena that would likely tear serramite armour to shreds

it also has a larger supply of air as well as coolant due to the pressures of the void and correctional units built into the gyros to allow the wearer to function in a three-dimensional space setting it's badass. It sounds badass for sure, yeah. Downside is it's probably the bulkiest armor, like this side of Terminator armor. So it's like pretty much useless when not in void combat.

It also requires a lot more care and upkeep between battles due to the strain the suit faces whilst being in the void. And repairs take a long time because there's also a bunch of system checks to make sure that they're in good function order before they are sent out into the void again. So that's where you tend to see more Terminator armor used in void combat than VHA. That makes sense.

I wasn't sure, like, because I was looking at that picture shy post, I was like, man, those shoulders look real bulky. Like, that almost looks like you, you can turn your head left and right. Doesn't matter because those shoulder things are going to guard your view. You can't see shit. Exactly. Like, oh, Lee. I wasn't sure if it was actually that bulky or if it was just like, oh, just artist interpretation to make it look cool because it does look cool.

It does. Oh, love it. So there's also like chapter specific armours. So you've got the runic armor of the space walls to begin with. So skill and craftsmanship of the iron priests means that the upkeep of all the patterns of armor in the space wolves is pretty much guaranteed. And the oldest of the armors that they have tend to be the ones that are like most heaven. modified and these runic armors are ascribed with iconography, battle runes, they're embedded by the priests themselves and they're not just for show or just decoration for the sake of it.

The runes have innate power within them and that provides an extra bit of protection for the wearer when it comes to like psychic combat. Which if you're going up against chaos, you probably need that. Or I guess the amount of times you even have to just go after a rogue cyker that isn't even like, you know, in the Black Legion or something or with a Chaos Base Marine Band. It's a nice thing to have. Definitely, yeah. And just chaos in general, yeah. Just chaos.

Just blanket statement, chaos. You need the extra protection. It also looks solid as well. Ooh. That looks great. Awesome. So good. Yeah, that's really dope.

They're not the only ones with psychic protection, though. Because if you're going to talk about power armor and especially psychic protection, you've got to talk about the Aegis armor of the Grey Knights. It's like the top standard. So it's covered with a lattice work of psychoconductive amulets that serve as a protection for the wearer against rogue psychers, designed specifically for that. The Aegis armour is also inscribed with prayers

and other anti-demonic contingencies to provide even more protection against the demons they may encounter. Pretty much, without a doubt, Aegis armour, it's the strongest armor available when it comes to direct protection against the warp, full stop. That makes sense that the Grey Knights would employ the Aegis armor the most. And that does look really dope too. Really really sick.

Gray Knights have got some great armours. The Terminator armor looks really cool as well. They have psychic huds that come over them too. There's lots of little customization bits. And quite often you've got entire words that have been like inscribed into the greaves and the pauldrons and stuff. Yeah. Love great armor armor. The Aegis armor is a nice mix of like sci-fi and like kind of like medieval crusader armor too.

It's a really nice little halfway point between them. Like I dig that quite a bit. Yeah. Love it. Absolutely love those. Oh, that guy's having a bad day. That dude is in trouble. It's about to get real bad.

Also, I like, I don't know why, but I love the fact that it, like, shows off the arms with the, with the Paldrons are like up. Because for some reason, whenever I think of a space marine movie, I think of like that the paldron's kind of moving with the shoulder a little bit and not like floating up. I actually really like the way the proportions are done on that grey night. That's the thing. I think a lot of the artwork and quite a lot of the models make them look more static than they actually are. But they do have full range of motion and they're still insanely quick because the arm is powered and responds to their movements like just instinctively. it means they're still horrendously fast and scary and shouldn't move as quick as they do. But it's kind of hard to get that feel in, especially in miniatures just because of like the static nature of them.

But yeah, people might look at his Bej Meehan and go, he looks heavily armored, yeah. And then then you have to go, yeah, but it can also sprint at you so fast you can barely see it. and punch your chest off the rest of your body in one hit. Shoulder tackle through your tank. Yeah, yeah. One of my favorite things about fighting chaos in Space Marine, too, running through the cultists. You don't have to shoot them or hit them.

You can just sprint through them and they just explode. And it's brilliant. Yep. Also, wow, that gray-eyed picture goes hard with that spear in the demon head. Wow. Yeah. And that's power armours. That's all the power armours we have for today.

There are loads of other types of armour in 40K and other universes, which we obviously can talk about in future. But yeah, there you go. You have, I was going to say a comprehensive history of space marine power armor. But I've just looked at how long the recording is. It might not be that comprehensive after all. Well, no, comprehensive. Just not short.

Yeah, yeah, it is comprehensive as all get out for sure. And Shai is probably just loving the fact that this is a near two-hour episode. Yeah. I feel like the derading really happened when I spontaneously started dying of some sort of horrendous lung illness. Yeah, that'll usually... That'll happen. Also, Shai said, Possum and I discussed doing non-space Marine Power Armor episode. If yours are interested in that, we can do it.

Oh, that sounds... That sounds pretty good. Okay, okay. Non-space Marine Power Armor. So Power Armor. Make your voice heard. Wow, yeah. Make your voice heard in the comments.

If that's something that you are interested in. Hell. Hell, yeah. Damn, we did learn a lot a lot about space Marine Power Armor today, didn't we? Yep. Now you're an expert. Ah! Well, we certainly learned.

Which is my favorite. I want to say the heresy armor. I really like that sort of studded, bolted together, menacing looking heresy armor. It's a good choice. I was going to say, I was going to say, of the firstborn armor's heresy with iron armor a very, very close second, because I do love Mark 3. Of the primary stuff, Gravis, because I love heavy armor. and if we're talking just out and out what looks the most badass

I think the Grey Knights take it for me the Aegis armour Yeah that Aegis armour is something nice Yeah, it's so good It's just so good I was gonna say either the heresy arm Or the Corvus armor shy Because I like those studded bolts

But sometimes the heresy armor Maybe they go a little too crazy With how many bolts are on it But the Corvus one is like Oh yeah still there. It's a little more toned down. It's not as all over them. So, yeah.

Five or six. Five or six. And of course it's got to be the beak for sure. If it's Corvus armor, it has to be the beak, right? That's part of the deal. No wolfheads. Beaks all day. Yeah. Sorry, wolfhead. I do. I don't know what that means. I don't think you want to hashtag that. I don't like that. I feel like you get something entirely different than space marine armor for that one.

Also, leave in the comment. What was your favorite space marine armor, dear viewers? If you're watching on YouTube, I guess if you're listening on Spotify, I don't think there's a... You get the idea. You get it, you get it. Anyway, Kiriath, are there any parting words for the people before we call it an episode? I will concede to shy that there is a way to do wolf heads properly, and that's if it's a wolf skull. What is, what armor is that?

That's Terminator armor. But he's got a lot of extra gubbins, a lot of personalization. Oh, that's so sick. The wolf school head helmet is at his quality. Oh, yeah, and a double-sided like wolfhead mjolnir-hammer thing looks. Yeah, yeah. I'll let him have that one. That's brilliant.

Nice. I'm in. All right, I guess we will see you next week when Kiriath is going to teach us something new. because Bricky is a busy, busy boy. He is, and I will, and I can't remember exactly what it is right now, but I will know by then. Don't worry. It's all in hand. It's all under control.

Oh, my master plan to get you to spoil what the episode was, so I wouldn't look like a fool with the quote has failed. That relies on me being organized, and as such, you've got no chance. Damn it! Well, I guess we'll find out next week, everyone. Bye! Bye! Thank you.