Adeptus Ridiculous - NECRONS: FROM RIP-OFF TERMINATORS TO SPACE EGYPTIANS | Warhammer 40k Lore feat Zee

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousFeaturing https://twitter.com/ZceenookT...he Necrons are a race of mechanical warriors, created from the Necrontyr. They have lain dormant in their stasis-tombs for sixty million years. They are ancient beyond reckoning, pre-dating even the Eldar. At long last, however, they are beginning to awaken, seeking to reestablish the supremacy of the Necron Dynasties over the Galaxy once more. The domain of the Necrons is known to themselves as the Infinite Empire.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:12 everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous Podcast. My name is D.K., his name is Bricky. We also have a super mystery guest that we'll talk about in just a second. But before I do, if you enjoy today's episode of the podcast, head over to patreon.com slash adeptus Ridiculous and consider supporting us. You get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen, the $15 tier gets you access to all the HD posters in digital form. And, oh, what's that shy? We have a brand new poster to show you. to Bricky and our new friend. Would you like to show it to them, Shai, and would you like to see it, Bricky?
Starting point is 00:00:48 You know my answer, but Shai is going to show it. Oh, this is good again. Oh, wait, no, it's an elf. Never mind, I hate it. Well, come on. This is a legally distinct Eldari in blue legally distinct Eldari armor. I don't like it. Really?
Starting point is 00:01:09 I mean, just because it's... Of course, the art's fine. Of course, Halestate is a great. job every single time. But even so, you, on, you come to,
Starting point is 00:01:18 you come to my house on the day of our Necron episode and you show me an elf. You, you come to this place when you know you are not pure. Oh my God, D.K.,
Starting point is 00:01:31 you can't, don't you dare. Oh my goodness. Well, there's a new poster, everyone. Listen, you drop this on me the day of my,
Starting point is 00:01:41 the day of my daughter's wedding. But what's unfortunate is that you had to drop at the same time that we are going to get ridiculously spooky. Because this episode comes out on the 27th, which is right before Halloween. And we have got a massive seven product drop for Halloween. You've got yourself glow in the dark shirts, hoodies, and zip-ups for the first time. including the new Just a Little Lord in Glow in the Dark and Regular. Of course it's October. So a glow in the dark, just a little git,
Starting point is 00:02:22 and some fancy new merch entirely for both Adeptus Ridiculous and Detective Ridiculous. Hey, what? How am I the one that was left in the dark about this sick new detective ridiculous merch? Because you do the same to me. Whoa, that's so cool. Also, check out this hat. That's a sick hat. We have hats.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We have hats. That's such a... Obviously, I got to pick up one of those detective ridiculous hoodies now. I have to. That's so sick. I mean, you like the Freddie kind of style to it? Yes, that's so cool with the hat and the eye glow and the and the swoosh on. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Also, I realized that this actually is missing one of the designs as well. There is a brand new adeptus, ridiculous Halloween version. That's the pocket, and this is the back. Oh, whoa. It's a whole thing. It's all available for the month of starting now through the month of October. Wait, so there's a Frankenstein logo and there's like a Jackalander logo? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Damn. Yeah, I'm really excited. It's one of the first times I've ever done like a major drop in this kind of thing. So check it out. We got zip-ups, hoodies, shirts, hats, the whole nine yards. Whoa. Halloween, Orchidate.com. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Love to see it. That's the time of shilling. That's the start. There it is. Deed is done. Halloween. Let's go. Bricky, see, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:03:59 My Cidus me to her new friend. Yes. Hello, C. How are you? Hello. I didn't answer my question. I am very necrose. indeed. Thank you. I said, how are you?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Not who are you? Nice. I think I'm going to get the quote this time. All right. All right. Well, I'm good. Thank you for having me. Wonderful, of course. This was, Shai mentioned that you are a resident extreme necrone lover and
Starting point is 00:04:27 as a group, at least me and D.K. Having read most of the necrone books and... There's not a lot. I was going to say that's what? Four? Pretty much. Five, if you count the first, but it's kind of questionable if that's even counted anymore, but, you know, what of the Silent King? Great book. Go find it if you can. I think I've read the four, which I think is severed both twice deads and Infinite and the Divine. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:56 That is one more short story, technically, and that's warning the museum, but that's just a microcosm of the infinite divine, which is, you know, fun. Well, we love everything that goes on in Trayson's Museum. Oh, yeah. It's great. It's always lovely. It's glorious. Anyway, see, what is our topic today? Necron supremacy, which is, you know, just necrons in general.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Oh, yeah, brother. Anything in particular about necrons supremacy? I mean, there's so much to go about. I mean, we have the six-hour presentation ready, but, you know, we have to keep it safe. You know, the living only have so much time to spend, um, living. think before they're, you know. Well, so, uh, we don't have the 31 year war in heaven play. Yeah, the listeners have their catheters in, so I think we should be good.
Starting point is 00:05:46 That's the bridged version. That's the bridged version. Oh, yes, my apologies. So, um, the topic for today, it is necrons, their, their lore through the ages of games workshop. Yeah, yes. Interesting. Such a delicious topic. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Like all of it? I have... Well... Take it away, C. You guys... I need to get a piss bucket. Don't... Don't. Don't. It's not going to be that funny just yet.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Okay. We're going to start back in the early days when we had what I would refer to as the shameful start of a rogue trader with our lovely... Oh, what is that mini? I love these. So bad.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Oh, brother. So all I know about early necrons is people told me that they were just blatant Terminator rip-offs. That's all I know about early Necron. The original ones, these were made from metals. I believe that the official first range came out with magazines, and I believe that they... Oh, yeah, that's one of the first.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Dead guards, that's one of the first. That's a chaos android, which is the predecessor to all things Necron. There's a slight similarity you can probably see about its most delightful will show it will share with its third edition warriors that will come out. Definitely really hidden the Terminator vibe with those helmets. Going pretty hard in the
Starting point is 00:07:15 sky net because, you know, games Workshop loves their 80s references. I gotta be honest, that third one is not that bad. For an old mini, that third one, not terrible. I'm okay with that one.
Starting point is 00:07:30 For an older one, the one with the blue, for an older one, it's okay. I would not mind a re-released version of that mini, kind of like that one image of the World Eater they did, like On Rock the Devourer or whatever his name is. Oh my God. This year is, I don't remember when this was, but I think this was one of the magazine ones that was printed out.
Starting point is 00:07:52 We could also go a little bit further ahead, where I believe that the Rogue Traitor era had some pretty neat stuff, but I'm not an expert there. I was barely even sentient at the time, you know, waking up his heart, would um would they used to be was this made by what's the name of the old GW artist that like really
Starting point is 00:08:14 created their style uh John Blanche made some but I don't think these ones are his oh yeah there is that one is definitely Blanche-esque uh DK if you ever I don't think I've ever mentioned Jonathan Blanche to you much that he's um
Starting point is 00:08:30 he was a artist for games workshop I think he just recently left. Retire. Retired, yes. Oh, okay. But he would make a lot of the, like, super old school 40K art. Was he the one that did that, I think it was the High Lords of Terror? There are galleries with him up.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I would recommend you look him up, even if you don't have any interest in the history of it. Because some of the designs have formed a foundation. what 40K would become, and still to this day, is drawing influence from it. I mean, I must admit, one of his greatest pieces of work has redeemed to me one of the more, well, problematic characters in my eyes. Belisarius call did one of Belisarius. What, Belisarius call? Problematic.
Starting point is 00:09:24 No. Not him. He's never done anything pseudo-heretical. It's not pseudo-heretical that concerns. me, it's more akin to the fact that what he will do, that is what terrifies me. You know, you know, there is a book coming out soon
Starting point is 00:09:42 called, that's Bellasarious Call versus Fabius Bile. And that... And investigating the Necron Pylons, there's only one other Necron that could possibly be involved in those. I am so hyped. Oh, me too, me too. I'm still waiting for that to come out and plunge it for all of its secrets. We should move on from
Starting point is 00:10:02 the beginning, because the concept of the Necron start with the Raiders, well, the KERS androids, then became the Raiders, and in 2002, the first Kodix came out, which was a masterpiece of what he called. Well, it was a masterpiece, in my opinion, because, oh boy, it refined the Necron style into the current android-like skeletons, we know. it had built upon a lot of the concepts which was first experimented with the what's it called the Raiders and it added the monolith which was amazing
Starting point is 00:10:43 I mean that's the Was this fourth edition? This is third Third edition, okay Yes That image of the Necrons might be their most famous It is the first thing most people saw
Starting point is 00:10:57 of necrons as they are well henceforth yeah that's literally what I think of whenever someone mentions like a necrone army that's that image is basically the first thing I think of like that's the first mental picture that pops in just this swarm of
Starting point is 00:11:13 of metal and green and monoliths and yeah around uh 2012 uh after I I know 13 after I graduated high school and I was playing 40K and 7
Starting point is 00:11:27 edition with my friends at Dairy Queen. His Necron Army was the main one and I always remember him. I think he had this image on his wall in his apartment but in particular he had all of those old necrons that have the big glowy tubes
Starting point is 00:11:43 that go with the classic war Yes, the glowing tubes for the warriors which was always really fun. The Lego Star Wars lightsaber tubes. Yes, they were fantastic. The Gauss cannons, right? Flayers, actually. Cadons are something for destroyers,
Starting point is 00:12:02 and destroyers are quite the thing. Yes. The Gauss, Flayers and Reapers, now reapers, then flayers. Yes. Flayers are the most basic weapons of most Necron warriors, and let's be honest, as the Gauss flayer is to the necrons,
Starting point is 00:12:21 what the last gun is to the Imperial Guard. And, you know, just better. incredibly much better, because back in the day, I'm going to get historical now, these things basically were able to almost destroy anything. I'm not saying that as a...
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, those things tore apart. Wow. Basically anything. I mean, it became better in fifth edition, where it became more reliably everything, everything, but let's stick to third now. The thing about these was that they were probably the beginning of it. This was the first interaction with the necrons the Imperium had,
Starting point is 00:13:00 that it was the way that the Imperium first saw the necrans. And when you saw an army of immortal-unded robot warriors marching towards you, and, you know, that's not going to be a lot you can do against that. No. So they were mysterious. Most of the codex was filled with reports about how they attacked what they did, and, you know, just enough to run them as an army, barely. So even back then was it just like
Starting point is 00:13:29 They're just a Like a silent army Because every book Well the few books I've read Whenever there's like a Necron army And you're looking at them It's very like They don't make a sound
Starting point is 00:13:40 They're all completely in unison And it's just a very creepy affair Of just like this perfectly in unison Group of troops That are just going to mow your ass down Yes and no Because there was Gareps too Don't forget
Starting point is 00:13:54 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. And the destroyers are, you know, terrifying. They were jet bikes back then, so they were fastest back then, too. Oh. Yeah. It was, can you imagine a destroyer coming to watch you at the speed of a jet bike? Nope.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Just imagine that. I was not destroyers were big and clunky. Oh, they are, but that's the thing. In relatively. Yeah. They are, but they are also surprisingly fast when they want to be. We'll talk about how fast necrons can be later, because they actually hold the speed record of all things in Warhammer.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Really? The necrons do? Yes. Yes. Oh, all right. I mean, they are... I mean, there's a little bit of cheating involved, but, you know, it's the necron kind of cheating, so it's just winning.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I mean, we had to spend an entire book talking about court cases and necrons. Cheating is just winning with different words. True. Exactly. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. Also, I mean, Necrons, I are the most technologically advanced race in 40K. That doesn't mean you're fast.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah, it does. Okay, let me explain, because I think I can't just leave this one. But Necron's had ships that were surpassing every other faction in Warhammer in both safety, and probably also in a reliability, because they didn't go into the warp
Starting point is 00:15:20 like everyone else, plebeians. They... They don't. They don't. use the warp. They accelerate. They go into, we use an inertialess drive. In most games it is defined as teleportation, but well primarily battlefielding graphic too, but it is actually just being able to move without being limited by the universe itself and it is basically allowing them to accelerate to impossible speeds beyond the speed of light. Because Necrons ignore the laws of reality because what they have as extremely advanced
Starting point is 00:15:54 is basically magic. We're also probably going to mention that they had the ability to basically appear anywhere. One of the most impressive thing they do in this codex, which is the fact they landed on Mars. This one ship just decided to parallel park on Mars near the Doctor's Labyrinthus and, you know, crashed. Not the Mars Orbals of the fences that shut it down. Don't worry about it. It was just a stupid old pilot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:21 apparently the 3rd edition codex make a big notice out of the fact that the Mechanicus has a large interest in the Necrons and it is probably because it is now confirmed that there was indeed a Shadow of the Void
Starting point is 00:16:37 dragon lying there, just beaten by the Emperor perhaps, a red Mechanicum, it was strange but very unclear so, you know, the important thing you need to take care of here is the fact that the necrons are still under the influence of the Catan here.
Starting point is 00:16:57 They are still theorized at this point that they were servants of the Catan. They were literally seeing these god-like beings floating around and going like, oh, yeah, yeah, and they just called it a god. Okay, okay. So still, still they haven't murdered all of the star gods yet. This is the fact they don't. understand they have, but let's go with the illusion that they don't know it yet. And this is a bit of a touching upon the meta of the Necrons, because in the beginning, it was said
Starting point is 00:17:30 that they were slaves to the Catan, which they were, but they weren't anymore. It's, we'll get to the fifth edition. There was currently servants of the Catan, and that means that these great godlike beings manifested into reality through basically physical avatars from the fifth dimension and came in and ruined people's days by eating them. I have had a talk with Remlays from Forteciferius about the process of what the Catan actually ate. And that's what could make this from 12 hours to 48 hours, and we're not going to touch that. But let's just say that Catatan ate something from the Necrotia. Was it the souls, the live essence?
Starting point is 00:18:19 we don't know. We don't want to talk about it. I think it's nice to just, I like to just say souls and leave it at that. It's the best I could. Yes, it's probably the best for this. They eat their souls. If anyone is going to be willing to go into the discussion, that posting in the comments, go whatever, I, I'm not, I, I'm not long-lived enough
Starting point is 00:18:38 for this. I'm old enough. But the Catan, it essentially held the range of the Necrans at this point, and their most powerful servants, the Lord, were the strongest of will that had an able to hold onto their own self, despite the fact that they were, you know, millions of years old and basically withering from the inside, but we don't know that. They are presented as this mysterious, all-consuming force that are here to harvest humanity, the other living races, because of their Catan masters wanting it. Makes sense. They probably want more souls to eat or something. Sure. Sure. Yes, let's just say souls. It's a good catch-off.
Starting point is 00:19:15 hungry, hungry gods of real space who can eat if they eat souls, it's almost like they're eating the immaterial part of people, it's a little wacky, but that's the part we're not getting into. I'm going to stay far away from. We're hungry to far. Point being, oh no, I can't feel.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Sort of. Yes. Yes, they have a case of a soullessness, which is not hard when you look at them. Just look at those eyes and tell me that. those guys they care about my dog they don't they don't
Starting point is 00:19:51 the thing is that at this point they were presented as another all-consuming force that were trying to take over the galaxy and harvest it
Starting point is 00:20:00 for another reason and the fact that Catan had the hungry and was a little bit hangary one of these Catan was so
Starting point is 00:20:05 hungry that he imprinted himself into every single race except the orcs as the literal incarnation of death
Starting point is 00:20:14 that's the the Nightbringer, he became the Reaper. Kales Ra to the Elder and the Orks escaped because the Crocs were too dumb to comprehend that death is bad for you. That tracks with the Orks. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So this Star God was just like, you know what, I'm going to imprint myself as the literal personification of death to everyone that is smart enough to perceive it that way? Essentially, I mean, there is some more complexity. So it's
Starting point is 00:20:45 So a reminder that star gods, for the most part, are dicks. Yeah, that's a dick movie. There are very few of them who I would argue to be nice guys. Just a little star guy. You can count on an amputated hat, how many nice gods there are. You could count on an amputated hand. How many nice stuff? That's a hell of a sentence.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I've heard that Isha's okay. She's just in a bit of a bit of a picture. right now, or being pickled. Yeah. We'll get to pickles later. Oh God. Yes. The Nightbringer was, there's a little bit of a canon hiccup here where they said that the Nightbringer was the first they come in contact with, which is hard to believe for me because it slaughtered everyone until they subdued it with prayers and promises of servitude and pointing them at the galaxy where they slaughtered everyone until they subdued it with prayers and promises of servitude and pointing them at the galaxy where they
Starting point is 00:21:45 buffet really was. Yeah, we should probably mention Mephard Rann, the messenger. I kid, he's the deceiver. Mephard Rann was the first Catan that probably managed to successfully integrate the, what are called, the Catan and the Necron tier together. And he was also he that allowed them to become necrons in the original law, which is finished. I remember the deceiver. He was in the book. He's a dick. And I also told you about it. He was in the book. He was in the book.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I also told you about it. And he is kind of a dick. He's a super dick. I mean, I dare say that a man that has such many fallacies on his head should definitely be considered dangerous. Wait, does he actually? You can go with fallacies. I mean, let's just find the image because he is quite the figure. You can go with fallacies if you'd like.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I kind of prefer the concept of someone named the deceiver to be generally considered a dick in general? Yeah, just in general, the name implies that even if his star god friend's like, man, that guy's a deceiver, it's like, yeah, he's probably going to be, oh wow, he is a bit of a phallus head, isn't he? Yes. He's got a little bit of
Starting point is 00:22:59 yeah, he's got a little bit of that going on right now. His model is old, too. Oh, boy, that is, uh, yep. Yeah, it's unfortunate. These models were made in metal at the time, too. So I have a metal model of the night bringer.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You can imagine how much of paying that is to keep together. Strategically placed loincloth. You love to see it. On a god who may or may not have a phallus? I may not have to tell you that he can change shape at will. So imagine anything you want to see and just figure of it that way. Okay. Or don't?
Starting point is 00:23:34 See, as the prior Nightbringer you see up there and the receiver here, there's a reason why the newly released Void Dragon looks as baller as he, Oh, man. That is my... Aesthetically, that might be my favorite mini in all of 40K. Mini. It is amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I feel like I've seen some of the art, and they really play up, like, the sort of... I don't want to say pixelization, but like those little square indents in him that are, like, all crackly and green. And it's just... I love the voice. The Geith Consciousness. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, we're talking about Mass Effect again. This is really going to be a six-hour episode.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Shai is just seething. Ah, yes, Catan. I thought we dismissed that claim. That's actually a really, a really good image, though. That is an amazing picture. I must give credit now to, I hate to do this, but Wizards of the Coast for commissioning a lot of very talented artists.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yes. To draw Necrons. The best. And Necron. like this? The best thing that happened from the Imagine the Gathering collab was the excellent card art that came from it. Anyways, I think we have covered the bases of the Necrons in third edition and where it starts to get spicy because nine years later, something terrible happened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I dare say terrible because a lot of people consider it terrible, but I think it's one of the best thing to ever happen, and that's the fifth edition codex. I'm assuming this is a very necron heavy codex where they really start getting beefed up Let me start by explaining to you The many different things that started to be different Let's start with Catan The Catan were no longer the guards of the necrons They were shattered guards
Starting point is 00:25:32 That the necrons had rebelled against And freed themselves from And here it imprisoned them and enslaved them They literally pulled the Oulu reverse card on these guys and this is this is rather impressive because I don't think there's any other faction species
Starting point is 00:25:49 that have intentionally, looking at you, Eldar, killed own gods. Intentionally, yes. They did it intentionally. Eldar. Typical Eldar. Man, common Eldar L.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They're called the L-Dar for a reason, you know? Because L-Dar, because the capital L-Dar, because the capital L- L D-R, L-D, okay. I got the joke the first time. I didn't laugh because it was...
Starting point is 00:26:17 What are you talking about? That's comedic gold. Genius. In any... Come on, man. You're an Eldar hater, and you don't like the... L-Dar? It was...
Starting point is 00:26:29 I like... That's actually pretty good. I didn't catch it. Thank you, see. Oh, my God. Don't suck up to... The man, a class right here. We need to have him back more often.
Starting point is 00:26:41 All right. Gladly, I'll gladly talk about necrons more. I'm so shy. Oh, yeah, Gork and Mork, yes, they beat each other. But they haven't killed or enslaved one another, have they? See, it's not fun, because if you enslave them, that means you don't get to beat them. And if you kill them, then you can't beat them anymore. Yeah, org problems. That's for... Oh, we should mention that an entirety of 40K exists because of the necrons, but we'll save that for later.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Wait, what? We need to... We need... See, if I want to take a little crack at this, I'm pretty sure it's the discussion of the warp exists, but the strength of chaos kind of booned because of the volume of... The great old ones. Yeah, killed ones, war in heaven.
Starting point is 00:27:27 They fucked it up a little. Oh, okay. It's like you have a kitty pool, and then, like, 40 grown men decide a fistfight in the pool. Next thing you know, the waters aren't going to be so calm. And now there's a bunch of sharks. in the waters and their name is corn. Right, right. Okay, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:27:43 All right. Let's go over the fact that the fifth edition did shake things up little. The Catana now enslaved. We've got a cool, uh, fort. Not forks, what's it called? It's a big one. It's a super heavy, um, goddamn one to show that how the, how do we keep our guards locked up? Would you like to hear about our religion?
Starting point is 00:28:03 It's locked up in a basement. Oh, the Tessaract vault. Yes, the Tesseract vault. the Opelisk and the turnstead in Catan. I mean, all of them are pretty amazing. But we should talk about the fact that they also got a range update in 2011,
Starting point is 00:28:19 which was, there's a little bit of law behind that, but I think we should have just the gleam over the fact that they were made with the intention of being used for sixth edition at the tail end of fifth, and that put them a little bit of a power advantage, and that
Starting point is 00:28:35 made a lot of very sensible and calm people Yeah, less sensible and less calm So yeah, I was going to say Those words don't exist in 40K, do they? Sensible and calm? They do, the problem is. They're just not that descriptive of their actual topic, so you know.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It didn't introduce a lot of other Necron models That are essentially, it changed up the way that we looked at the necrons Because the monolith was usually the only cornerstone we had for how Necron vehicles looked, how vehicles acted and how it, you know, functioned. We got upgrades to the nobility. We got cryptics. We got entirety of things. Necron overlords, I mean, imagine if you will,
Starting point is 00:29:23 you didn't just have a space rain captain. You had a space serene super captain or something. Listen, I don't know space reigns. Like Gullerman comes back later, so I can't really say that. A chapter master, I guess? A chapter master, yes, but that was a... Yeah, something like that. And this thing here is literally bigger, badder, and better.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's just like, I'd never hope for something like this, but I'm happy I got it. And these guys were the builder bears of Warhammer Fort K for that time, because they had a long list of war gear that technically did not exist on a model, but thanks to Necron technology he just did. You paid point for it. And now that Owar Lord that stands there
Starting point is 00:30:09 almost stabbing with his scythe and, well his staff and his other hand probably a resurrection orb is now holding a Tarkon arrow
Starting point is 00:30:19 and that thing is going to shoot down anything with a strength 10 AP1 weapon. To those it doesn't know. It's the strongest it could be back then. It's a lot
Starting point is 00:30:28 The Tachian arrow is a lot better now but I was molding so hard when I looked at that D6 damage after reading Twice Dead King. Oh yeah, we're not going to talk about the law accurateness of a...
Starting point is 00:30:41 Three. Three. In a row. Twice Dead King, I think you just shot the one. Yeah, I thought it was just the one in the book, right? Yeah. Well, regardless, he's still very good. It's still very good. All right, here's the full list of all the
Starting point is 00:30:55 Necron characters I've come in. Four for the top. That is the first Necron resin overlord we got. He was great. Then we got the second, which was the one next to him
Starting point is 00:31:07 with a catacomb command barge. And then we got a whole fury of wonderful characters of which we shall talk about shortly. But the fact is that we had a plastic
Starting point is 00:31:16 Necron overlord by 2011 and that made Necron conversion so much easier because you could literally take any other Necron bit
Starting point is 00:31:26 and stick it on him and call him a special character. And it opened the floodgate to what people could do with that conversions. It did things that, you know, space rings would have to buy three sets to do with necrows could do with three.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Well, cheap sets. Typical Necron W. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very common, common Necron W, sure. No, there's no meme in that one, though. There's no Eldar meme style. No, there's, so don't even, don't even try. I mean, a lot of people were...
Starting point is 00:31:53 Gee, someone's a little upsetting, spaghetti. A lot of people were not happy with what happened. Law-wise, but I love the characters. The characters each represent an aspect of what it means to be a Necron. Like Varga Dobrae-Obrian that stands next to the Catacomb Granabut's lodge, he's Eternal Duty. He literally stands there, looking coolest hell, and just protects the guy next to him, the senile old man.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I don't know if we should mention him, but, yes. That's right he shall not be named in 40K, right? That's the way everybody paints him. Yeah, well, it's because it's been painted by a bunch of a lot of weirdos sometimes. I'm giving, I would absolutely think we should give him. I have learned to be cautious about that because your opinion upon this one is indeed, if you doesn't know, we're talking about there's a little bit of controversy. But alas, let's just say it.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Matt Ward did a great job with the Necron Codex. Okay. And that's about it. He deserved that greatest. Matt Ward has... Matt Ward has a few Ws under his belt. And I think... Like Battlefleet Guffick, too.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I think he has more Ws than people think he does. It's just this like... They're just not willing to admit it, and Games Workshop loves to hide everything that they're hardworking writers and artists. Okay. As someone that is fairly in the grand scheme of things new to 40K,
Starting point is 00:33:26 I have only heard the end. But it's good to hear that, you know, there's good in there too. There's just a lot of people that are very salty, and I don't blame them. The neck fronts were very powerful, and I'm almost tempted to talk about one of the greatest pieces of walkie, and now we're talking about overlords. But let's just finish this lineup. Number so Sandrick, he is a senile old man. If you read Severed, you would love him. If you don't love him, I will come to your house, and I will convince you to love him.
Starting point is 00:33:56 We did an episode. We did an episode on Zandrek, and he is definitely one of our favorites. He is one of the greatest. I remember that episode. It's just, I need to remind everyone that he is great. He is, he is. Next to him is Anrakir. His head is not quite as long as.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yes, yes, I know. It was the blue. I like the blue. I get that. The blue does. And he is, his skirt is iconic. It gives him that, what's it called, outline, silhouette. It's great.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And he has this. one of the greatest things because unlike everyone else he didn't get nerfed by the sleep. He instead gained new powers. He unlocked the skill tree. He never knew that it's called Assuming Direct Control, where he managed to be able to take over other
Starting point is 00:34:42 racist technology and make it other vehicles. Mass effect reference, wee woo, we woo, we I was going to say it's taking every fire by being not to make a Reaper reference. Oh boy. Or a collector reference, I guess. Fantastic. Well, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:58 fine. But go on. He's the one in blue. Yeah, I like it. He's kind of cool. And the other one in blue next to him, I don't even have to tell who he is. That's, that's, stress in, the infinite.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I mean, the name was originally literally a reference to the fact that he, he literally has the ability to jump from body to body, and that's making him infinite. Oh, that would make sense why he's called the infinite. I don't know why, but I never made that connection because I'm stupid. I will always remember the classic line of treason on the whole. They're not much like being dead. I love that image.
Starting point is 00:35:40 There's not a light behind that eyes. It's a fitting. It's a very funny. I can only say Tristan deserves that. That's me. That's me when Bricky tells just like, hey, TK, you want to hear a quote? And that's what my mind starts doing. It's just there's no light.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It's all just dead-eyed. looking forward like yeah bricky tell me anyway continue yeah all right let's say um tracin deserves his own episode probably already has but deserves one more I will come I would love to talk about him his collection
Starting point is 00:36:12 I mean we could go through entire levels of the matter of him collecting things in the Warhammer universe like we collect models but let's not because that that would be the 18 hours we're afraid of oh yeah going through his whole collection would be like a week long episode Yeah, and that's just the things we know. Imotech the Stormlord.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I have made a horrible decision about Imotech the Stormlord, because Imotech the Stormlord is to, what's it called? Saris, we will talk about him later, what Abadon is to the emperor. Oh yeah, I guess he would be, wouldn't he? Imitech, I think, has one of those types of situations. Oh my goodness, that gift. He's got one of those situations where he is kind of like underrepresented, I think,
Starting point is 00:37:06 because he's not as funny as Treason or Zandrek, and nor does he have a book about him. But as far as we're concerned, he was literally like the guy before Zerick came back. Yes, and that's interesting thing, because if you look at the map in the, and I think it's Dave Edition, don't crucify me, but, I don't remember if Aif it was the one that didn't have a map, but I think it was... Oh yeah, there is. There is a map in Aphidation that literally puts the Saltic dynasty next to the Tao. Oh, that's a 9thitation.
Starting point is 00:37:41 There's a... There is a map. There's a map that puts the Tao next to the Saltic Dutistee's territories, and while space is technically mostly empty space, there's a lot more space that is not empty in... Imotech's dynasty, and he has two vassal dynasties under him that are significant in their own right. And he is basically one of the major players in Segmentum Ultramar. Okay. I think if I'm not mistaken, the Silent King actually has to be kind of wary about Imotech
Starting point is 00:38:16 because he has a gigantic amount of tomb worlds under his disposal. Yes, it started with 80, and in the current edition it is 120. Oh, that's a lot of tomb worlds. That's a lot of tomb worlds of auditions. Take a look at that, Abadon. How's that sound? It's a lot of tomb worlds, and that's a lot of necrons. That's, yeah, I would definitely be wary of him.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Oh, yeah, and he carries around his own private thunderstorm. Isn't that just cool? He is the storm lord, so he should. Listen, shy. Avadon is hurting cats, necrons follow orders. I mean, she's not wrong. Necrons... She might not be wrong, but necrons are just better.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Necrons... Okay, so... You know, at some point you're going to have to talk about the Necrons' biggest weakness, which is the fact that they're waking up with problems. Yeah. Mental health is important, and we shall save that for last. What... Too true.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Too true. Let's roll this back. What mental... There needs to be a mental in order for there to be bad health... Listen, Necrons' unique ability allows them to take negative mental damage. They have a lot and they're working for it, okay? Negative mental gift. Well, we might as well covered now you brought it up because Sandrick suffers from a condition
Starting point is 00:39:39 where he does not see reality as it is. Or perhaps it does. It is unclear. Where he perceives the world as he was still in the wars of succession, where every single Necron were fighting to be the top dog. And he believes he's putting down rebels instead of terrorism. Burnets, Orks, and, yeah, other 40K. He comments upon this to O'Brien that is fully aware of how bad things really are,
Starting point is 00:40:07 and he just, you know, goes along with it because, hey, it's fine. Yeah, sure. And he hasn't lost yet, according to the Severed, he hasn't lost a single battle yet, because if not, he would probably be disposed. You know, that's a little bit. Meaning that he's probably one of the greatest tacticians in the galaxy. Go home, Gulliman. And he's insane.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I do love a good bit of smearing the Ultramarine's name. You're winning me over, my friend. Oh, I've always been winning. Nothing is better than trouncing on Gilliman while also being mentally ill. You see, here's the thing. Sorry, maybe mentally ill. how you take that specific quote he mentions.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Yes. Sandrick is one of example. There are others that have similar maladies and slight alterations to their mind. It is described very vehemently that they are so upset
Starting point is 00:41:13 about other people's maladies, they are too busy to notice their own. So, you know, there's a chance that every single Necron is in fact insane. I mean, they probably are. That's fair. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, probably. Thanks to the infinite divide, we know that there was actually a war going on for approximately five million years.
Starting point is 00:41:35 So, I mean, going insane is very, very possible, I dare say. And we have only covered the lords now. And, you know, let's talk about mental health. And you're going to need some help after this one because Orican is literally a walking paradox. Yeah, he sure is. Orkin also has a girlfriend in his head. She goes to me just in school. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:42:00 You wouldn't know her. I have a horrible, horrible beam for that. But alas. I met her in an AOL chat room. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, Trayson. It's fine. Yeah, the thing is that Orican has the ability to see the future.
Starting point is 00:42:21 He warned the necrons about... going into the deal with the deceiver and he was called a messenger back then because you know they hadn't deceived them yet and for that
Starting point is 00:42:35 they managed you know he was dragged into the bioforge and turned into this lovely mother and you know you know how that song
Starting point is 00:42:43 he is a lovely guy that probably is a reason why the Southac dynasty has become so powerful because he just zooms back and forth and ensures that the thing goes to his predictions. It's basically
Starting point is 00:42:55 the Infinite Divine was summarized by me as the guy with infinite quicksaves versus the guy with infinite lives and, you know, none of them going to win. Yep. It's a stalemate. It is functionally a stalemate. But it is a great
Starting point is 00:43:11 one, and I enjoy every single... Oh, it's hilarious. It's great to see those two interacting. You should read Infinite Divine if you have not. I have, and I am big fan. I'm talking to the viewer. Oh, well, we've been telling the viewers to read Infinite and the Divine for years.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I think now have joined in. If they haven't done it yet, that's on them. Yeah. Oh, wait, I found a stupid thing I did for Genefather. What in the world? Wait, the book isn't even out yet. Listen, they are going to investigate the Parian Nexus, which is the last cluster of Necron Pylons,
Starting point is 00:43:54 and there's only one Necron. character that has ever been related to that other than Sarak himself. And that is Saris. Illumina Saris. Unless I'm going to call him Illumina Saris, because if I call him Sarac, and then I'm going to call him Al-Saris, it's going to be confusing. Illumina Saris is a big spider boy. He started out very adorable, but he had one of the greatest glow-ups during the
Starting point is 00:44:16 eighth edition ending of Psychic Awakening, where he received one of the greatest mottles of all time. Yes. I will die on this, Hill. his man's his man smoothie yes what his man smoothie
Starting point is 00:44:30 you've seen oh oh oh oh I see okay for some reason I thought he was the one on the far far right bottom right okay I see the man smoothie now that's the skull pick destroyer yeah
Starting point is 00:44:42 yeah look at that glow wow yeah that is quite the glow up geez that's not even mentioning the fact that Zeres was the one that helped create biotransference. Oh yeah, that's a thing now.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Where the Catan helped, Saras made it a reality. Also, he also has this baller artwork of the mini. Zeres, if I can put it lightly, is a real shithead. Yeah, but he's so cool looking. He would give both,
Starting point is 00:45:16 what's it called? He would give both Carl and Fabio's a run for their money. Yeah. Wow. He's big, powerful, and certifiably insane. I like him. Yes. I like him a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:32 He is amazing. Also one of the characters in the new Ryan Nexus Warhammer Plus show, which actually looks to be kind of okay unlike a lot of the other Warhammer Plus shows. I'm still excited for the second episode because it has more necrons. Too much human. But, you know, a little bit of necron is a lot better than no Necron at all. True. Too many humans is a common issue in 40K.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah, you're fair, you're fair. As a Transformers fan, I feel that with every new live-action movie that comes out. I've come. Anyway. Continue. Yes, that's the biotransference. That's a fifth edition. Fifth Edition was full of a lot of changes, and let's just quickly skim-o, the most jar-dropping one,
Starting point is 00:46:23 which was a single line in the Codex that doesn't really matter. It just says that the Necrons are allied with the Blood Angels at the Devil's Crack to defeat the Turinets. That upset a lot of people. Whoa, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 That is like not the worst part of that book, though. No, that's the thing. It was just a single line in the Codex before the book came out, and a lot of people jumped on that as that is literally the most law-breaking thing because the blood angels
Starting point is 00:46:53 will not work with Cenos and Necronz will not work with the blood angels. But it was later explained, I must add this, that it was in fact just the silent king cheating Dante, poor man. I mean, give him some disability. Leave, retire. He deserves it. He deserve it. Get someone more incompetent to handle Nihilus so we can take it over. Where did you find that picture of my girlfriend from across the state? You wouldn't know her. They all look the same without the medicine, doesn't it? I do need my meds. They all look the same without the medicine? That's a, yeah, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Well, that's crazy. So, so canonically, the Necrons actually did work with the blood angels? For a short while. I mean, enough for them to raid their storages and, you know, shoot a few turrets. Oh, and just for long enough. for the necrons to use a weapon from the war in heaven to destroy a necrone, to destroy a turinid, high fleet, and all the human defenders, but, you know, collateral. Collateral damage, yeah, I'm sure they thought it's justifiable, you know.
Starting point is 00:48:05 This is a win-win for me. Oh, yeah, for the necrons, oh yeah, win-win, kill some humans, get rid of the high fleet. That's do it. Let's not forget to add the part where when they met the Silent King, the Silent King was wearing a sanguineous death mask, which Dante took rather personally. Oh, gee whiz, I wonder why. And unlike the crying scream,
Starting point is 00:48:28 the Dantley had was a serene ruler of perfection. I mean, just a little bit jealous, he must be. I mean, I made a Zemitroy. It's just a purely fact. The secret boss in the Horace is the Sarin. Come back, claims the Guineasus's deaf mask, and start beating Horace, leaving the Emperor to wonder what the...
Starting point is 00:48:47 Shy, you told me this guy was. was a Necron fan, but I don't think you really sold me on the severity of this. Bit of an understatement, that one, but yeah. My goodness gracious. I am. The Necron fan. The Necron fan, yeah. All right, so what's next?
Starting point is 00:49:06 What's next on our list? I mean, there's all the major changes that really happened in the fifth edition. But most of the other one just built upon it. There is, however, one of the greatest travesties in all of the... Warhammer 40K. They removed the faster than light speed, but we got it back in that tradition,
Starting point is 00:49:24 so don't worry. The thing is that we could only move through Dolman Gates back then, and they were basically hijacked to Webway Gates, meaning that we could, that was how they won the war in heaven, basically. They jacked into their
Starting point is 00:49:38 personal transport system and killed them from their own fences. The breed literally walked into their homes and shot them with a ghost player. Nice. And then they jacked them off. Whoa, whoa. That's the enslavers.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That's the enslavers that did that, not us. Very important difference. Yeah, very important distinction. We are necrons, not necrophiles. Please get that right. It's a common mistake, but please. Are these all your artwork? Not the manga one that's an edit of goblinslayer.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I mean, I love the edit of the name. I mean, I have never thought I could turn goblinslayer into necron player, but, you know, it worked. No, when you just posted. Oh, yeah, that's mine. I remember the day I heard that Gulliman was going to come back, and everyone in my local group have been telling me, Primax are invincible.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You can't hurt them. You can't kill them. And then I realized they have a stat line. I can't punch them! And so I did. All right, so I don't know if you intended for this to be what this is, but this is the first thing. Yeah, I saw that too.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I made this back before that game came out, I would like to add, but I realized that now. Yes, actually, with a little bit of... Truth is stranger than fiction. Yep, it is, it is. And I will always approve again. I will always, always approve of ultra marines getting thwacked. I am a, I am... I mean, that was one thing that happened in fifth edition that made me consider why ultramarines were bad.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And that's a little thing called Damnors. I think we should cover that quickly. It's the fact that a fully awakening tomb world were intercepted by a bunch of ultramarines, nothing particular like that guy, Carter Ticarious, which got his ass handed to him by the undying one, until the Dreadnought came up
Starting point is 00:51:32 and ensured that his plot armor would remain untarnished. Well, it is he, Cajoracarius. He needs to have his plot armor protected because he, Cato Cicarius, cannot be defeated. We actually just did talk about that, literally in like two episodes ago. Oh, I'm behind on those.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I'm sorry. No, no, no. It was just funny because I remember specifically that statement of him getting a giant war sight in his chest and a dread not running up and be like, no, it's a crunch. Yep. I mean, the ever-living one did probably came back and needed to spa leave, but, you know. After that, 20 years later, the Necron's, you know, oh boy. they came back and took the planet.
Starting point is 00:52:18 A fully awakened tomb world. I mean, this is literally one of the greatest travesties in law that a fully awakened tomb world was taken by Ultramarines. Yeah. Unfortunately, Ultramarine Ws are a little too common in 40K. It is a bit of a travesty, but it is a common thing.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It wouldn't be the first faction to get trounced by the ultramarines, they won't be the last. It's not the ultramarine wind that is annoying, it's the fact they can side-sibb with throwing in an uncountable amount of, what's it called? Regiments, guard regiments, and, you know, they take the blunt force of
Starting point is 00:53:00 it's shame. Let's always remember the real villain of this all, which is the GW logistical writing. That is the biggest issue whenever this happens. Yeah, I have a point. I mean, I remember specifically at the end of Twysted King when they were like, oh, got to go, and they just let out an atomic fart
Starting point is 00:53:20 and destroyed the planet and killed everyone. And I was like, they should do that more often, good God. I remember Nate talked to Nate about that. He needed to end the book and get another because he had to split the story in half. It was actually one story put into two books, and I can't imagine games workshop doing anything else about rubbing their greedy little hands and go, yes twice the book not just twice the king
Starting point is 00:53:45 all right that wasn't that wasn't too bad plus two yeah yeah plus two yeah yeah plus two yeah plus two yeah plus two yeah plus two that being said i think twice dead king is is the best necromb book so in fairness he did a great job with what he did yeah yeah he did great i love it i just wish you didn't make so depressed i used to work with tts and i realized the day that they revealed the void dragon I had to draw that So I almost assaulted the original artist
Starting point is 00:54:14 Told him I'm going to draw it We are friends, don't worry He's fine He can still eat and walk I saw him yesterday, he's fine Unassisted even Yes And I basically made a co-lap
Starting point is 00:54:28 With him about making the void dragon And you know That was the final result It's great I had the bases churned out Less than 24 hours after the reveal Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Are we... Are we... Are we missing... Are we missing it? Well, wait, we haven't talked about the Silent King yet. I mean, the Silent King is a strange one. Yeah. Because the Silent King is...
Starting point is 00:54:57 How to explain the Silent King? The Silent King is the biggest Necron-Dia's... Oh yeah. Easily, right? Yes. Like, size-wise, but that's only like... No. He is just... the biggest, as in the greatest.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Let's say the greatest. He's like the most important necron ever, isn't he? Yes, and no. Oh. The thing is that in a very, very, very sad mood, he had original control over every single necron there was. And he decided that after having failed his people, he would go into space and find some kind of redemption.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Yeah. And then he found the cockroach behind the count. honor. Yes, and I realized that it was not just one. It was actually a colony, and dead guards, those things were being reproduced faster than he could kill them. So he just remembered, I'm actually the king of a giant race of people that are going to kill these guys and they raised back. Spoilers. He did this in fifth edition.
Starting point is 00:55:57 He got his bottle in ninth. That was four editions between those. Did the Silent King try to, did the Silent King actually try to take out the Tarynids by himself for a little bit? Before he was like, oh, right. I have a Necron fleet. I don't know because his ship changes size constantly, because the Warham Accumptuities says planetoid, which would be a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:56:20 The other one says city-sized and the largest city in Warhammer, you know, planet size. It's all over the place. And there was this magazine where it blotted out the shadow of moon. It's a funny story. Let me tell you this story. It blotted out the moon. That's a big ship. What was the name of his ship called again?
Starting point is 00:56:41 The Song of Oblivion. Right. Nice. Yeah, that's, I was like, I remember his ship being something really cool sounding. Like, right. The song of oblivion. Oh, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And the thing is that, okay, the story goes that a bunch of Nialak, Nileak dynasty for it, the same dynasty as Tresinus, is invading an imperial moon base. and the space reigns and the sisters, the guardsmen are defending it, and the overlord leading it is a favorite of Zarek, the silent king. And he is essentially fighting their leader, and he holds his legions, because it is courteous to do so. It is appropriate to the code of honor. And what does the humans do?
Starting point is 00:57:31 They keep attacking like savages. So in the middle of the battle, essentially, the size of the battle, essentially the side. Stanley King swoops in, teleports the entire army out, and his ship comes in and blast the moon. Because of those guys. This honorable... That's pretty impressive. That's... Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I mean, we haven't even talked about the amount of doomsday weapons the necrons have, and the only reason they don't use them is because they don't want to go back to sleep, because they're going to mess up the galaxy again. Fair enough. I know they have the... What is it? Celestial ori. Celestial orri.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yep, where they just push a button and... Someone decided to have that as a throwaway line in a book and accidentally made the most powerful thing in the entire game. It is a full section in the 50-diction Codex. The Thanatos just named after a god of death and has an entire hollow planet with a miniature-sized map of the galaxy in it. And if you extinguish any of the nodes in there, the real one goes supernova.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Which, Necrons are really powerful, but there is a certain question of like the how. How did you do that? How did you make that? Let me explain this and banish all of your doubts with a single word. Necrons. Ah, yes.
Starting point is 00:59:01 It all makes sense now, of course. God damn it. I'll never trust you with a guest again. Am I wrong? I mean... You're not, but there has to be, like, there's a certain... What's the word I'm looking for? One thing I like a lot about Warhammer is that so often in fiction,
Starting point is 00:59:22 you will get a thing that is only killable if you have the super special ability or the only something or another. But for the most part, despite some things being nearly indestructible, almost everything in Warhammer can be killed with enough gun. Like, there are very few things in Warhammer that can survive enough gun. And it's, and I like that because there's always a comeback possibility. And so the, oh, I don't know, blow up the star game of checkers is little shenanigans.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And it's on the planet, it's on the tomb world of Thanatos, you know. That's a nice little God of death reference. I like it. I like it. I like it. Because that's what's happening there, you know. Jack Horner. God damn, Illuminaur Zeres, dying. What did I do to deserve this?
Starting point is 01:00:15 I mean, what specifically? Now, the thing is that there are others. Have I talked, you probably know about the giant, scarab catapes, that has actually a faster-than-light trepreciate made by the Mephyrhic dynasty. They just have superweapons lying around.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah, those twice did rain, yeah. Yes. King. King. King, yeah. My bad, sorry. Yeah. Oh, and let's just quickly mention a doomsday arc.
Starting point is 01:00:57 You know the doomsday arc. It is one of the most beautifully stupid, vehicles I've ever had. And I love it. It is a direct line of fire. Death ray. Not the actual death ray. Death rays on Doom size.
Starting point is 01:01:12 So worry about it. This is a doomsday cannon. And these things are essentially large, mobile, self-propelled pieces of doom. There's a short story in the 5th edition Codex that talks about, that talks about how, at a weekend, Stee traded several of these to some orcs and because they were not fight enough and due to the what's it called the
Starting point is 01:01:40 boss being a mech boy he wanted to do his orky thing and tingle with it the last thing of that is literally that the planet was vaporized literally it was gone nothing wow
Starting point is 01:01:55 all right so accidental accidental exterminatus with a tinkering with a doomsday cannon. Okay. All right. There's got to be that balance between the factions to an extent. And the fun part about the NACrons.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Hold on you. 40K balance? No. I'm just saying, if you want the NECron one, it's the fact that it takes them 50 years to make a decision on anything. I would like to rectify that's a quick decision. From the infinite divine. It took them a year to respond because they were planning an assault upon one of the most defended worlds of the Imperium Empire, defended by some of the greatest
Starting point is 01:02:38 technologies. Mantra Gora the Golden, the crown world of the Sautic dynasty. Right. But then, but then, the other part was them being such selfish pricks, they spent another thousand years trying to look at a MacGuffin. I mean, then again, that's 10,000 years. They had to pad it out with something. You tell me what happened in the Imperium from, you know, 36 to 37. Did anything happen there? 36 to 37, that was the age of apostasy, I think. I think that was when the Sisters of Battle came around.
Starting point is 01:03:11 They were just isolated. I thought it was just 36. I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Point being, point being, the issue is that all the Necron overlord, it's like the good and the bad part, or on one hand, all the Necron overlords are waking up, and then they're like, kind of selfish assholes,
Starting point is 01:03:30 because they're pharaohs. and they're like mine, mine, mine. But it also makes them really interesting because then the only necron characters you have to worry about are a couple really cool overlords. So you get the bloodbored method. You get quality, not quantity.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yes. Hey, I'm just saying, I'm just saying necrons versus the indomitable human spirit. I think the necrons win. Yeah, they definitely win. They win the abdominal human spirit. Unfortunately, the indomitable human spirit is some 16-year-old kid with a lasgun.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Endowed-old human spirit. A 16-year-old guy with a bolt and power armor. Different story. Well, it'll help them a bit against the warriors until then they fight the overlord, and the overlord trounces them. They don't even make it to the overlord. I'm just going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:04:27 They make it to the immortals. Or maybe the literature. guard if they're a named character. Okay, that's named characters. And if they're Cato Cicarius, they need the Dreadnought. Ah, yeah. Get the Dreadnought. He's running off again. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Oh, that's right. It's, like I said, it's interesting figuring out the balance situation between the here and there and everywhere kind of kind of. Balance, he says. I know, I heard you the first time. Just reiterating. Well, if we are going to talk about ultramine, we're going to talk about an ultramine successor chapter.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And one of the most outrageous thing that they did, but also one of the most awesome things that ever happened in Warhammer, the world engine bosses. Oh, goodness gracious. Their ultra-remen's successful chapter, the Astroenites performed a terrorist attack as the religious fanatics they are on the glorious world of bosses.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That was on its way, peacefully, through the neighborhood, destroying every single piece of upstart fleet elements there were. And it was performed, sadly, and it exploded from the inside. It's a shame, it's a tragedy. It's not because they let out a catan on the inside. And, you know, yeah. It was an inside job. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:05:46 It was an inside job. It was an inside job, of course. Of course, it was, yeah, it sounds like something that probably needed to be dealt with. Yeah. Yeah, but when you hear about the squad of Ultramal, Marines boarding the Necron Death Star and destroying you from the inside. It kind of hurts the feelings of Necron fans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, I mean, that's fair that the Ultramarines did a thing again. It's technically a success. The chapter and Astroonites have been completely wiped out, and there's not a single Asteroonite in a single article somewhere that has a speciality in melter bombs. Common imperial. What's the word we learned a few times ago, Pyric? Pyric. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Pyrrhic, Pyrrhic, whatever. Pyrrhic, Pyrrhic, W. Has to happen. Has to happen. Has to happen. On multiple occasions. Shy, are we going to get to that? Are we really?
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yes, because you asked a question. And you did bring me on for some reason. I feel like this is exactly why you brought me on, and I can't really, you know. Anyways. The world is amazing press. Can we have a, can we not? go too long in this episode says shy oh before we leave can
Starting point is 01:07:00 do necrons have sex seven hour conversation so so uh necrone sex huh what were we saying about the necron mating press all right let's go back to the basics because there's no canon incident
Starting point is 01:07:18 that necrons can or have done it but there is something that necrons have but no space marine probably ever will two genders because we have confirmation of female necrons take that
Starting point is 01:07:31 oh yeah we do don't we yes the first one was synchuba the the second
Starting point is 01:07:38 listen listen the mother of oblivion mother of the main arc dynasty she literally was one of the few guys that manages to be
Starting point is 01:07:48 she's probably a fan favorite for that and that confirmed that yes necrons had at least two they're aliens that could be a third
Starting point is 01:07:55 I have never never Robert Raff's Necrons are far more malleable than Nate Crowley's in the fact that they literally can reshape their bodies instantaneously which they should which is exactly
Starting point is 01:08:10 Nate does it far more subconsciously but that's part of the you know child yeah yeah and they can do it very effectively and this would yes open up the door for set intercourse are you happy now shy
Starting point is 01:08:27 Is this it? Well, that doesn't say that they do. It's just they are capable of it. Has there ever been a recorded incident of the Necron's quote unquote getting jiggie with it? Are you really going to? I'm not going to go through everything. But it was the Necron tier, not the Necron's.
Starting point is 01:08:51 You know. Well, true enough. What do you think? So the Silent King, Spend 60 million years with perfect memory in exile and dark space. He had to have put his dick in something. But then again, we don't know if they have dicks because they're aliens. We can assume.
Starting point is 01:09:13 These are the hard-hitting questions we brought you over for. I feel like this is the area where I will not be able to say anything because I cannot prove it and nobody can disprove me. And I think this is the area where imagination is far greater. than anything I can say and confirm. That's called a cop-out answer. It's the kind of answer I'm willing to give on recording. We didn't bring you on for these kinds of questions or answers. We brought you on for real hard-hitting answers.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Now tell me right now, Coytus, Y or N. Oh, let's just say yes. Let's go in the episode. I mean, I don't get it. Well, Shah, you opened up this door. I think it's time for you to see what's inside. I think you're not ready for this, but have you talked about Necron Pirates before? No?
Starting point is 01:10:17 No. Y'r! Meages, it is time for me to tell you a great tale. Okay, that's over. We have Tassar the Invincible. He is essentially an exas. from his own... The Invincible.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Wow. I guess he doesn't lose much. I mean, when you are to say, you don't really... Listen, if you hear his story, you're going to understand why. Because he was originally exiled from his home world, and he came back while the world was still sleeping. He rose out of the ground, one of his Kahn-class tombship,
Starting point is 01:10:55 one of the largest class tomb ships that had a model in Battle of Battlefield Gaffa Kamada. And he just rose up underneath the hive city and literally made a giant crest-shaped hole in it and flew off before the planetary defenders could get anything done because, you know, he didn't think they were actually, you know, intelligent beings, so just, eh. Primitives. And he flies home and he convinces the master program that he is, in fact, the rightful ruler, which he was, but he was exiled, and it agrees.
Starting point is 01:11:30 and then he is now the leader of said dynasty. That's good, that's good. The kicker is that his crown world has a giant ring around it, left over from the war in heaven of debris from necrodermis and rafebone. And it specifically states in this notice that it has this ring, and anyone that uses it could build a mighty fleet that would rival almost anything in the galaxy. And to this day, in nine tradition,
Starting point is 01:11:58 it basically mentions that he's still pirate. So, yay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, so I am thinking, how much, how much more do we have? Or are we going to maybe call it there? Because we have hit, we have gone a while.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I'm just extremely upset that the Necron sex question was not answered to the full capability that we could. I mean, I can't quite explain sex to you. would be a little bit too. It's your parents job, Ricky. Okay. That's, that's, you know, they have classes for this where you can learn about sex
Starting point is 01:12:39 if you're really curious, you know. You know, see, would you like to tell the people where they can find you so I can get away from D.K.? That's a good question. Because I am mostly on the now Platform X, or formerly known as Twitter,
Starting point is 01:12:58 and you probably will be able to fight me if you look for set C-E-E-N-O-K which is just a misspelling of C-no back in the day which I found was funny and I kept it Okay cool
Starting point is 01:13:13 I'm also C-Feranok I'm not going to spell that out for you You'll probably find it in the description I hope Thank you Sure I mean you can always look for me Google Necrons
Starting point is 01:13:25 and you'll probably find something I've made eventually Google Necrons You'll find me I swear Yeah it should be the description. Google Necron Sex, you'll find exactly what you're looking for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bricky, take us home.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Take us home. Okay, well, if you like this episode, you want to hear more about it, you can check out.

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