Adeptus Ridiculous - NECRONTYR FACE REVEAL? 10ED NECRON CODEX BOMBSHELL | Warhammer 40k Lore
Episode Date: January 10, 2024https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousThe Necrons are a race of mechanical wa...rriors, created from the Necrontyr. They have lain dormant in their stasis-tombs for sixty million years. They are ancient beyond reckoning, pre-dating even the Eldar. At long last, however, they are beginning to awaken, seeking to reestablish the supremacy of the Necron Dynasties over the Galaxy once more.[4a] The domain of the Necrons is known to themselves as the Infinite Empire.Support the show
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Are we doing Necron stuff today?
Yes, sir. I spoiled it.
Oh, nice.
We do appreciate a little Necron supremacy here.
We do, we do.
So we did this, I believe, with the Nids episode.
And we probably could do this again with the other two.
But I thought it'd be kind of fun because I picked up the Necron Codex, the 10th edition codex.
And like, hey, you know, maybe I'll go ahead and give it.
a little bit of a chat.
We'll talk about some of the artwork,
some lore tidbits they've added.
Like with most of the newest codexes,
they are, well, they're lighter than before.
Oh.
A little sad about that, honestly.
They got cut down to size a little bit.
The cover looks great, though.
Cover's good.
Cover looks good.
I like it.
I don't know what GW is smoking
because they've been doing this thing where, like,
remember before we were like, oh, my God,
they're using the exact same images
in the ninth codex cover as the 10th codex cover?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, is this also reused?
No, it's not.
And that's why I'm so confused.
Oh, well, why?
Whatever, like you said, who knows what they're smoking over there?
No, it's strange.
The codex cover looks good.
I think it lacks a little bit of something.
Yeah, I guess with like the necrons, I would expect more of like, instead of just like one necrone, I would expect like a metal army just sort of like looming like a bunch of like glowing green eyes or something.
But yeah, I mean, it still looks good.
So I was I was on the the poor Hammer podcast a bit ago when I started doing their merchandise.
Shout out to the two of them.
Hey, great podcast.
Let's go.
And we did.
The video was on 9th edition Codex artwork.
And one of the things that we discussed,
I don't know, Shai, if you could pull up a 9th edition one,
is that one of the really interesting and enjoyable aspects of Necron's
that they've been pushing a bit more in the new lore is their degradation.
Ah, okay.
The personal insanity of them all.
Right.
And not just in the actual decrepit soldiery, but the nobles being a little crazy.
Yeah, being, yeah, their mental state being not great because they've been asleep for, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years.
And that, there's the old Codex cover.
It really goes into that, like, decrepit arising legions of the undead vibe.
Oh, yeah.
that middle one's jaw is just like literally falling apart.
Yeah, and they literally look like they're rusting almost.
Like with the color choices they use, it looks like it's like rusty and decrepit.
Like you said, like they literally just woke up after like a century.
Whereas like the codex one is just like, oh, look, I'm very shiny still and I'm all very glorious.
Oh, I like the second one for the Necrons actually.
They're very rarely, at least I haven't seen too much art of them looking that decrepit without being like a friggin, what are the fleshy ones called?
The fleshy ones, the flares.
Flayed ones.
There we go.
The, I think, I think that's the difference is that the newest one kind of goes more with a necrone nobility.
Whereas the old one kind of does this old style.
I think they need like a mixture.
They needed the big Necron noble to be like above on a dais,
ushering his legions of zombies, basically.
I think that would have been a little bit of a nice combo, you know?
Oh, that'd be great.
The nobility looking all shiny and new,
but all of his soldiers and those under him are all like decrepit and rusty and,
ooh, yeah, that would go hard.
But yeah, I would expect, like, there to be, like,
a vast army on the cover of the Necron Codex.
Yeah, and I don't, you know, I'm not quite sure.
sure what they're planning on.
Like the Tyrannid one was the same as last year and so was the, uh, the admec one,
but the space marine one was different, but it was still like an artwork that was used
in a different promotion.
So it's kind of the same.
I don't know.
It's weird.
For the most part, the book is still lighter on lore than I would have liked.
Um, I really do think that they need to figure out the hell they want to do with these codexes.
Um, because they're, they're trying.
for them instead of just kind of like winging it each time.
Because yeah, because these are much like much lighter than the old codexes, but people
buy codexes for their rules, but at the same time, everyone's using the app anyway.
So I feel like you almost should go harder into the lore and the artwork to kind of make up
for it.
But yeah, yeah.
That's a personal opinion.
I don't know the, you know, whatever the finances are.
It would give added incentive to actually buy the codex instead of just like, you know,
Like you said, if everybody uses the app for rules, like, you know.
I, this is off topic, but I got to, I got to at least make the statement.
I really think that you should be able to purchase digital rules for your app at like a really discounted cost.
Like, hey, you want your codex for the app?
It's five bucks.
Now you can see it everywhere you go.
It's totally fine.
And if you want to buy the codex itself, it's nothing but a shockful amount of, of a beautiful artwork.
great, you know, great lore and also includes the $5 thing in case you want.
I feel like that is totally justifiable.
And like, I feel like they should really, like, lean into, like, the art and the lore,
and, like, the rules are just, like, they're in there and, like, there's a little QR code,
and you just scan it and it pops up on your app or something.
And, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, like, you can keep the...
Something like that.
But anyway.
So the lore is a bit light, but I do enjoy the beginning of this entire codex, which is a pretty interesting battle scene involving an overlord called Overlord Omnok.
He's a Necron Noble, and he's just kind of on this planet fighting off some Eldar.
He's 1V-1ing a striking scorpion, which are the ones that have the big tall green helmets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is pretty impressive if you're 1V-1 in Eldar.
Well, he's a Necron overlord.
He's actually kind of like...
He's like trouncing them, if I'm being honest.
He's barely even trying.
He gets cut a few times, and his face just like reputs itself back together.
Yeah, what does he care?
He's got living metal necrodermis, so...
He eventually, he's trying to learn something from this fight, and when he realizes he can't
anymore, he just slams his staff down and a force of energy breaks the Eldar sword
and impales it into its neck.
Wow.
Just like,
just like,
oh, okay,
all right,
show off.
Damn.
Uh,
nothing left to learn.
All right.
Cool.
Damn.
What's really interesting,
though,
is that it says,
he watched as the creature's
tall helmed helmet
followed a parabola
that long buried neural
systems of his mind
recognize.
And then for a short period of time,
they put this thing in,
um,
in italics that says,
the overlore is the
oriented, et cetera, et cetera.
The battle is larger, more vibrant than a moment ago, but of course it is.
He knows where he is.
He is back in the war in heaven.
The present fades as he relives memory shards, laid down in ages forgotten by the galaxy.
And then after this little mental part skips, he kind of goes back and he says,
he was irked or he had a hollow feeling something untoward had happened as he cast the creature down.
He was irked that he could not identify it.
There was a discontinuity in his chronos sense,
but an interrogation of his pristine memory engrams revealed
nothing of the nature had occurred.
So he kind of had this like memory lapse.
Yeah, and he thought he was way back.
And it's interesting because this actually happens multiple times
in this short little blurb where it says,
of course it is. He knows where he is.
He's back in the war in heaven.
him. And then it says he was irked that he could not identify it. There was discontinuity in his
chronosense, like identical text.
So he's this overlord and he's this major, major guy, but he has this memory that shoots him
back to the war in heaven a few times. And then he's like, huh, that's weird, but my timer is
totally fine. That's strange. Whatever. I'll keep going. And then he repeats the exact same
cycle over and over again.
Damn. Is that kind of like what happens in Twice Dead King, where he kind of like shoots himself back into the past to like try and learn something?
A little difference. That's like a, what was it called? It was like a specific thing he had.
Yeah, it was a specific thing that he could use to his, yeah, it was definitely a MacGuffin. It was like a ghost in the machine type of thing, right? But it seems similar anyway.
I think it's more showing off of this pristine powerful Necron Noble is still insane
Yeah, he's clearly yeah, he's clearly not all there despite how how strong he is
And so he has this constant like lapse in his memory
I guess that's like most necrons though right despite how powerful they are they all have something a little
Cookey crazy wrong with their with their head
Oh, besides like the Silent King but well yeah but that yeah that's different
it's a neat thing that like even their highest nobility
it just has this mental problem where he's he has
almost like a dementia style relapse not quite the same as
as like Xandrek for example but it was a neat little story
yeah yeah yeah I did like because as he was surveying the battle
there was a there's a Katon Shard fighting for him way across the way
and it was actually cool how they wrote this it was a
Eldari burned in the Katon Shard's cosmic
flames were melded in moss into screaming fleshy forms or picked up and unraveled into
Adam's midair.
Wow.
Wow.
That is a lot.
This visual brought him back again.
And it's like the red light flooding the snow and ice streams from millions of miles above
the world's surface.
It is no star, he realizes, but one of the new gods, the Khatom.
Pin pricks of light the overlord knows to be Eldar ships are swallowed by the
being's power.
Under the beings gaze, the planet's moon shivers imploding in continent-sized fragments,
swallowing the Eldar and Necron there.
Whoa.
So he came back to remember like a full-sized Caton just like, like, looking at a moon.
Just eating Eldar ships alive.
and obliterating movements.
It's like, oh, great.
Oh, my God.
Just a little snippet of what the Caton
were really like back when.
Yeah, that's a hell of a visual.
Oh, my God.
It was a fun little story.
Kind of shows that concept a good amount.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's a couple really cool bits of artwork
I would like to show you.
No, you're not allowed.
Sorry, you've got to keep it to yourself.
Why are you the way that you are?
I don't know.
My mom asked me that all the time too, and then, you know.
Okay.
Well, show me the art, dude.
Jeez.
At least we're the same page.
All right.
How are you surprised about these features about me?
There are some pretty neat little artwork pieces in it so far.
There's this really awesome one of these night sites flying between these just monumental
Necron constructs.
Yeah.
Where are they exactly?
Like, what's above them and below?
Like, is that, what is that?
That's probably a tomb world.
Oh, that's...
Oh, okay.
Probably the underground bits of a tomb world.
Damn.
All right.
Because I was like, are they flying out of, like,
uh, uh, it almost kind of looks like a...
Surely you've seen Independence Day, right?
It looks exactly like the Independence Day thing, yeah.
Right, and they're flying out of it,
and must go faster and it's closing and everything.
And, yeah, that's what I, that's why I,
initially thought.
Oh, so the other
art work is from 9th edition. I wasn't aware
of that, but it has the old
grudgy style. Yeah, it's like the
scarabs are re-nitting that
necrone on the ground.
Yeah, and it's such a different look
to like the necrons too, because they look
like really humanoid.
Like it almost looks like, that looks
like War of the Worlds now, to me.
There's this other
neat piece of artwork
that is new. I love this
one to death.
There's a couple awesome bits of this.
For one, you've got the golden armored...
It's golden blue, so I'm assuming it's Nahylaq.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Nihilik dynasty there.
I can't tell if they're fighting each other or not.
It kind of looks that way.
Because there's that one guy that's like, you know, on his...
He's, like, crawling away on his butt,
and he's kind of, like, really, like, scared-looking.
and then I'm not sure if they're like
what they're doing to that poor bastard in front
that's like screaming but he doesn't look like he's having a good time
but I don't know if they're just harvesting or if they're like
you know torturing him or whatever but damn
that picture goes hard
there's so it's hard to see
because I took the picture kind of poorly because the lighting
but the guy on the bottom right is actually like
yanking something out of another necron
not the one that has the giant jaw dislocation.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Like you said, with the lighting,
it kind of looked like that's who he was pulling it out of.
Okay.
But can I point to the most baller part of this entire artwork,
which is the gigantic conoptic structure in the background
with the overlord on a dais on top of it?
It's like he's writing a gigantic, like, sand caterpillar or something.
Yeah, with this throne on top, that is really dope.
you are not mistaken.
That is indeed one of the best parts about it, yeah.
So, like, as you can see, you got some cryptex on the left hand side there,
because the cryptex have the one eye.
Yeah.
And he's got, like, a Resorb in his hand, and there's the golded one on the right.
And so because their gold, the other ones are silver,
I kind of wonders if they're actually, like, fighting or not,
or if it's just like a nice little piece of artwork there.
But I enjoy this one.
If it's a fight, that's a very,
one-sided fight, and those silver guys have literally no chance.
Well, zero.
The scar on the back might be their silver guys, so we'll see.
True, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so they talk, so in the codex, they talk about a lot of stuff.
The first pages are often the same as we normally do.
It's a lot of like, hey, by the way, the necrons were originally like flesh and blood,
and then they made a deal, and then the war in heaven and yada, y'all.
a general overview of the necrons and how they became necrons, yeah.
They do have a cute little blurb here.
The Valgul era, the Bowen Kingdom, talking about Drazak and the flayed ones.
Love the flayed ones.
Love the flayed ones.
Because this is where Olticks and his boys went.
So they got a little old tics blurb here.
Gotta love it.
Just put a little asterks at the bottom says,
Breed twice dead king for more information.
Buy it at the blah, blah, blah.
then take another QR code
Yeah, you have more QR codes, hell yeah
But they talk a lot
About the Pariah Nexus
Which I think is a really fascinating
Bit that they're leaning a bit
A bit more into lately
Like the show, right? Pariah Nexus
Like the show
That is the name of the show
I think
I mean the show doesn't really
Haven't see it
Don't know anything about it
I just know it's called
The Pariah Nexus
And some people think it's really great
Yeah, I mean
I think it's really great.
I think it's pretty.
I don't think it has a lot of substance,
but it looks very pretty.
Shrug.
Shrug.
It's a shrug for me,
but it does look very pretty.
The Prya Nexus, though,
we've probably talked about it a bit.
Have we?
It sounds familiar,
but I wasn't sure if it sounded familiar
because of the Shrug show
or because we had talked about it
in one of our,
I guess we've done a few next.
run episodes.
So do you remember what Blackstone is?
Um, I remember it's like the material that they're after.
I don't remember what makes it blackstone.
I remember there were Blackstone fortresses.
Right.
And weren't they harvesting it in one of the books for?
I think we talked about it in the Bellasarius book, but it's also your
main currency in the Mechanicus
video game.
Blackstone is
also known as Noctolith.
Basically, yes, so the
Blackstone Fortress is part of it. It is a
necron-style geological
thing that they've used
or they've had the ability to
utilize to, like a
magnet for the warp.
So basically,
you can, if you
polarize Blackstone in a certain
way, you can either
repel or attract the
Imperian.
Ooh. Okay. Yeah, I didn't remember what Blackstone was
for. I had remembered the instances we'd like, like the Blackstone
Fortress, obviously, but yeah, I didn't realize it was like a warp magnet.
Now, clearly, uh, Necron's, out of all of their immense power,
their biggest weakness is warp power, because they don't have any.
Yeah.
Um, anything that utilizes the warp is, is actually a
a pretty huge danger to them.
And so what they've been doing a lot lately is they've been polarizing these blackstone
into pylons and stuff and creating what is essentially null fields of the warp.
Oh.
Like fields where you can't use the imitarium or you can't use the warp or the warp can't be
gotten?
Like, if you polarize a giant blackstone pylon, for example, which I think are what the
Acadian pylons were at the time.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think you're right.
It will help slowly close and push away the Imperium as a whole.
And so properly...
Right. And then when they broke, that's why the...
Gotcha.
Right. Yeah, they held the Ayatara back.
And that's why it just ripped open.
And so, naturally, the Necron's especially the Silent King,
he's pretty apt on pushing more of these pylons out.
So you use them in a certain method and way
and you can take areas of space
and just kind of cut it off from the Imperium.
So it doesn't like fully cut it off.
It never fully does.
But basically if you were to sail it through the warp
and you were to enter an area like this,
it would just look like there's just nothing.
It's like this cut off of,
zero.
Yeah, that's pretty big.
Especially if you're like
the necrons and you can't
use the warp, you don't really understand
the warp. That's big.
Yeah, and flying
blind in it is a terrible
idea for the most of it. You can,
but you, God damn,
is it hard and
very difficult for yourself and your
soul? Would a navigator
just like go crazy if you were just
like, oh yeah, we're flying through the warp?
Or would they like see that big, like,
void and be like, yeah, maybe steer the other way.
So what it basically is, it's a null field.
They say it's like looking at a giant mirror,
where once you get to it, it's just, it just kind of ends.
Like reality just ceases to exist for the most part.
I don't know.
In a sense, it'd be like, it'd be like a fog wall in a Souls game.
Like, he's kind of walk up to the wall and you're just like, I don't know what's behind this.
It's just here.
Like, uh, gotcha.
So it's not something that you would just like, oh, no, we accidentally flew through this.
Like, you would see, you would know that there was this big abnormal thing coming and just be like,
all right, let's maybe not go in there.
But it also does do all the things you'd expect with an area of no warp presence.
for the most part, it's actually pretty brutal,
but a lot of the people in the Priya Nexus as it expands,
just like their souls just kind of die because there's no warp anymore.
Oh, right, because that's where the soul goes when, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, oh, that's, yeah, that sucks.
Right, so right here, for example, this blurb says,
living beings within the Pariah Nexus find themselves afflicted with a numbing,
despair that worsens
over time until they slip
into a fugue state and
thence into irreversible
soul death. This fate
leaves their physical forms mindless
yet still alive, the perfect
vessels for experimentation into
the reversal of biotransference.
You just kind of give up.
Yeah. Just stop.
Jeez. I like how they become
the perfect experiments for
the reversal of what
happened to the necrons. That is such a necrone thing to them like, oh, hey, these, these bodies that are just
totally devoid and numb of anything, let's experiment on it. Maybe we can, you know, biotransference
ourselves into them. Oh, boy, that is a very necrone point of view. We never did talk about
necrown prias, shy. I think that's because they've been, for the most part, slightly recond.
Necron pariahs were a weird-ass warrior that was a combo of necrons and the pariah blank gene of humans.
Oh, so it was like human and necron?
It was basically necrons turning human blanks into necrons.
Oh.
They're not around anymore.
These were back in third.
edition.
Wow.
That was a while ago.
They were also in the
dawn of, in the first dawn of war game
in like 2004
or whatever that came out.
Wow. All right.
So it's been,
it's been some time.
Yeah, it's been a little bit.
Oh, they had minis?
They had time back in like third edition. Yeah.
Oh, they're,
they're, I don't
love those minis, but whatever.
They're pretty,
It was a long time ago.
It was a while ago.
These were kind of recond out for a couple of reasons.
Yeah, one, they were anti-warp unit.
That was their whole concept.
And yeah, Blackstone just works better now.
And two, Blanks are so gosh darn hard to find even in human culture that getting one for Necron's to make into armies is kind of insane.
Yeah, with how rare they are for humans.
Yeah, necrons getting a hold of that many.
Like four of them is like, hey, look, here's how many we've found in the last thousand years.
Yeah, so basically they just kind of moved into this blackstone thing instead.
Fair enough.
But, anywho, the Pariah Nexus is expanding quite a bit.
Ooh, yeah, I forgot. That is a cool, a cool piece of art of them.
Actually, I got to find the...
Wow.
That is a...
Wow, those are all blanks.
There we go.
There's a dope image in actually new ones this time in the book that shows them collecting humans,
and it's pretty morbid looking.
Oh, yeah, that's a little, yep, that's, yeah, that, again, it gives me war of the world's vibes.
I mean, the necrons really have a lot of war of the worlds between like their tripod constructs
and just the kind of the nature of them.
Yeah, they're totally the World of the World Worlds.
Well, the new one, not like the old one with the,
what is it, Vrata, Nictu, or whatever, or is that World of the Worlds?
No, that's the Day the Earth stood still.
Sorry.
Oh, oh, the big, like, chewing a robot thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was sorry, I was getting my alien movies mixed up.
Sorry, sorry.
Was the new Day of the Earth stood still good?
I watched it, and I don't remember if I liked it or not.
I guess, was that Tom Cruise also?
The remake?
That's the World's remake.
Well, right, but wasn't the...
Wasn't that also Tom Cruise and the remake of...
No.
...and both of them?
No.
Day the Earth...
I don't, I feel like he might have been in...
2008 film.
Both of them.
No, it's Keanu Reeves.
Oh, that's...
Oh, no, you're...
Okay, fine.
Fine, you're right.
Oh, man.
It's Keanu Reeves and Jennifer Connolly.
Oh, my goodness.
Jennifer, man.
Also, oh, yeah, another, another human collecting image of necrons.
Oh, boy, that is, that is an image and a half.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's, uh, yep.
There's actually an interesting little tidbit here, um, which is the techno savants, uh,
and the various dynasties that have been going about.
into different spots and collecting more and more organic matter
in an attempt to recreate the necronteer,
which is naturally a fruitless effort
because they don't even know what they look like.
Yeah, that's kind of tough, sure.
Which kind of goes into their madness.
Like, Illuminaur Zeras has a good portion in this book,
and he himself wants to ascend himself to become a god,
but the idea of a soul to create a soul,
just always eludes him.
And it's kind of like this never-ending thing
where he'll never truly know it.
He'll never truly be able to get it,
but it doesn't stop him from trying
because to science, a soul,
just doesn't really work.
Yeah, good luck.
That's that full metal alchemist stuff, man.
Is that an anime reference?
Is that where they,
would the dad turn someone into a dog?
Oh, yeah, dad turns,
he he uh he uh he he he he fuses his daughter and his dog because he needs to keep uh his government funding
otherwise he won't be able to live anymore uh well you know i'm sure he was a nice guy oh yeah
the very beginning of like full metal alchemist is the two main characters trying to like
um uh get their mother's dead soul back into her body and it turns out terribly because
she just comes back and it's like a failed alchemy thing and she's just like kill
Oh, so it's some like pet cemetery kind of...
Never saw pet cemetery, actually.
Oh, well, they try to bring the dead back,
but the dead comes back wrong, so...
Yeah, basically, and yeah.
So it's that classic stuff.
Yeah, he has to sacrifice his arm and his leg
because he accidentally killed his brother,
so he soul binds his brother to armor,
and that's why you got the big suit of armor in full of metal alchemist.
Jesus Christ, this is like the show everyone tells me I should watch,
even if I don't like anime, and this is...
This sounds dark as shit, maybe I will like it.
Oh, yeah, it's super dark.
It's old, well, I don't want to say ultra-dip.
Yeah, it's dark.
Full Metal Alchemist is dark.
Also, watch Brotherhood.
Okay.
Full Metal Alchemist's Brotherhood is the better version.
Sorry, everybody.
Would you like to read the blurb that shy posted?
Ah, yes.
I think recent additions to lore give Necrons a better motivation,
because previously it was kind of implied that they want to go back to being
fleshy, but never why.
But now as GW goes deeper into,
Necron suffering from their robot brain solely falling apart in dementia and psychosis,
it kind of gives the whole thing urgency.
It's a weird...
That's true.
I like the idea that they're like, whoa, we are really starting to fall apart and we
really, like, we got to move.
Otherwise, who knows how long these weird old brains of ours are going to last.
It's a bit of a strange dynamic they have because there's a whole part on the silent
King that I'm about to get to.
And this is probably the biggest
lore dump in the whole book.
It's actually quite a lore dump, too.
It's kind of insane.
But
the motivation for going back
to flesh and blood is a difficult one
because some
necromes don't give a shit because
they're immortal and their power-hungry
nobility assholes.
Fair enough. So they just
want to keep, like to them, they've already succeeded.
So some people, like,
Trayson and Orican discussed in the Infinite Divine.
They talk about the, like, of course we want to go back to our old souls,
but they don't really know why they want to do it,
besides just that they should.
Yeah, that's true.
But at the same time, yeah, like, Shai makes a good point.
Not everyone has that issue.
Obviously, the Silent King is perfect.
In every method of the word,
he will never become ailed by any mental problems.
But not everyone is like him.
The Silent King.
Yeah.
How nice it must be to be the silent king.
Outside of the 60 million years of guilt.
Oh, yeah, I guess that does kind of suck, sure.
But hey, he saw the nids coming and he warned everybody.
So, right.
So that, okay, so let's talk about that.
The Silent King, obviously we know as who made all the bad decisions and screwed everything up.
Yeah, a little bit.
There is, okay, well, first, two things.
one, this artwork right here is super awesome.
Just really look in.
Just like this cool floating dais and the nobility up there.
It's just neat.
I mean, the dais is nice, but I kind of just love just like what this Necron world looks like.
Like, it just looks so, like, with all the, like, red in the background and then the foreground being, like, kind of like silver and green.
And, ooh, that's, I like that.
So then you got, like, the song, King Lill blurb here, which is really fun.
He just looks awesome.
This right here, though, is the biggest, like, holy shit moment of the whole book.
I hate that it's covered like this, but...
Whoa.
That is...
Damn!
That's a spread!
This entails the Silent King's journey.
But it's told in a really interesting perspective.
For the most part, Necron stuff is told either to the perspective of the Imperium or the Eldar.
because those are the people who know the necrons well.
Sure, sure.
Or just, you know, additional viewers.
This is like an insane drop and it's kind of crazy.
So first things first, the centerpiece is as far as I'm concerned,
one of the first ever real depictions of what a necronteer looked like.
Oh, really?
Now, this is clearly a mask.
Like a death mask?
Possibly, like you got like a horn thing on the top
and then like you could see how the pieces come together.
Yeah.
It looks like a visage created from the original Necron tier.
Oh.
Which so we're still not seeing what they look like, obviously,
but this appears to be that.
The best depiction you're.
got. Right, a genuine depiction of the old necront tier, which makes sense. You know, they kind of have like the long chin. Yeah, they look like fleshy versions of what the necrons are. Right. Like if you put flesh over a necron, that's what it would look like. But in addition to that, you also have all of those other little circley blurbs throughout it, which depict the silent king himself pre-biotransference.
Oh, wait, really?
I'm pretty positive.
If you look at it, he has a helmet on,
and he has, like, his ceremonial gar, but look, he's not metal.
Yeah, that's...
You know?
Damn, that's...
Now, for some reason, now when I think of the Necron,
I'm like, they're, like, walking Necron tier armor.
Like, because that's what the armor they'd wear would look like.
So, Shad, that's a good point.
I was curious about that.
that too. I don't think that's
that's not him holding his own corpse
in his hands because if I remember from twice
that'd be kind of wild if it was. That'd be
a hell of an image.
If I remember from Twice Day King correctly,
their souls are eaten by the gods
and they are just like turned into ash basically.
Oh yeah.
Kind of hard to hold your own corpse if it's
yeah. They look a little
feminine if I'm being honest.
I think this is
pre-biotransference
and he's wearing like his ceremonial
armor slash garb.
Yeah.
And because he doesn't look,
because he doesn't look like the silent king.
Like in none of these photos does he look like the silent king?
Because the silent king does not, like, like we know what he looks like.
He looks like a necrons.
And none of these are necrons.
This is obviously pre-bio transference.
It looks like a necrone.
Wow.
Inspirational.
The silent king looks like a bigger than normal necrime.
It's not like more terrian.
Just really painting the picture for us.
Oh, you, Schersch.
The Silent King, if you didn't know, he looks like a Necron.
Thanks.
I pick the man's butt.
Anyway, it's obviously pre-biotransference.
Yeah.
And we know the Necron's is living very short, painful lives, and it could be like a wife or like a daughter or someone.
No, true, true.
Yep.
That, you know, genuine.
Yeah, well, Shia is right.
Some people got pissed off that the
The Silent King is just a bigger Necron, but
That's what he is.
He's just a bigger Necron.
People got mad that the Silent King
was just like a bigger
Necron?
They expected a like...
Oh, like something that was like super special.
Like he is the predominant
Necron.
He should look special.
He should look unique.
He shouldn't look like a necrone.
He should look like the super specialist.
Right, right.
Got you.
Got you.
But no, I mean, I think,
it fits him. He's just the best
Necron possible and he's just a little bit
bigger. Yeah. Necron
perfection. Yeah, I like it a lot
personally. I like his look. But regardless,
this is all
clearly pre-biotransference images
of their old ceremonial garb,
which is just like such an
insane lore drop to just put in this
codex. Like this is actually
it's huge. It's huge to have
these visuals. It's gigantic.
To have like pre-
biotransference silent king is massive.
And like we still don't know what they look look like.
We have a better idea and we see like his crown and stuff, but we don't really know him.
Yeah.
What's even crazier though.
I like to believe that's his death mask and that's what he looks like.
That's a fine thing.
I mean, if you look a little bit closer on the image, you can see that it's not just the three
helmets.
It's literally a body.
Yeah.
Like you can see the neck and everything.
Yeah.
It kind of looks like the.
is it, is it, Asura that has the many faces, the deity?
Oh, like the only thing with like the three twisting heads.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think it's actually more made to represent the triarch, because the triarch is always the three.
Yeah, that's fair.
And, you know, the Silent King and his mini, he has his two other members of the triarch right there with him.
That's, that's, yeah, that seems logical.
That seems, yep, yep, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Because the triarch was always the ruling class, the Necron's.
The Silent King is currently the final triarch.
That's his whole schick with those other people.
But what's absolutely crazy is that the little blurbs of text on this detail the Silent
King's time and effort.
But what's even like, it's interesting because it's not told from the perspective of the
Imperium. It seems like it's told from the perspective of the Necrons or even himself as a third-person viewer.
But it also uses interesting terminology. For example, it's not the war in heaven. It's the war of aeons.
Which maybe assumes, because the war in heaven is what the Eldari call it.
So he calls it the war of eons or a-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-O-N. That's E-on or A-E-O-N.
honor if they both just work.
I think they both work.
All right, fair enough.
I'm going to say they both work.
I'd probably try and pronounce it Aon, but whatever.
But so he also refers to time and aspects of Necron lore as mantles of existence.
So it says, as the first mantle of existence fell away, did Zerak bring immortal order to the warring dynasties of his people, ushering them into the second mantle?
It was the offer of the gods that Zeric accepted, but it was their power that he took with it, smote the gods into splintered ruin.
So the first mantle of existence was like the initial part of the Necrons, and the second one was taking of the turning into necrons and the war of eons.
Huh.
That's cool.
What's particularly interesting is the third mantle of existence.
which is when he exiled himself.
Okay.
It says here, wars with the
celestial realms beyond
the galaxy did Zeric wage
in the third mantle of existence
as his people slept soundly,
safeguarded from harm by the
silent king's unsleeping wrath.
Barbarous empires did
he trample in the utter dark
uncivilized realms of
horror and madness did he
sooth, or sorry, they trample
in the utter dark, uncivilized
realms of horror and madness did he
sooth. Tribute undreamt
did he win.
Glory and wealth and honor
were his. Thus,
did Zerich triumph to claim
territories beyond the
stars, preparing a new
inheritance for his people,
one to be gifted at the end
of all mantles.
Sheesh.
So,
to translate that.
All right.
That's a mouthful.
It is.
It assumes that he didn't just atone for himself in the darkness between galaxies.
But he went to other galaxies to conquer and enslave to create a place for the Necronteer as they slept soundly and to protect them from invaders.
Okay.
He's a good king.
He's a silent king's a good king
He's he's a good guy
Except for the whole you know
Dominating galaxies and stuff
You know
It's a it's something that like
Might not seem like a big deal
But it's actually a lot of a bigger deal
Than it might seem
Because no one ever talks about
Outside the Milky Way
The only thing we know anything about
Is that the Tyrannus probably came from there
Yeah
So the idea that
Zerak went out
into other galaxies,
Indromeda and so on,
and subjugated them
to create safe zones
so that nothing from there
could head to the Milky Way
and cause his people harm
and also destroy
barbarous other, like,
him alone
went out to secure land
for his people
outside of where they slumbered.
Huh.
Kind of crazy?
That didn't quite register.
at first, but he
conquered other galaxies so that
nothing would
happen to the necrons in the Milky Way.
Like, he just went to other galaxies
and was like, you know what?
Y'all are done.
Y'all might be a threat
to my sleeping babies.
I'm just going to trounce
you. Which, I guess,
would make sense that he couldn't handle
the tyranny one, because he's alone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get me wrong.
He's got his ship, the
song of oblivion.
Oh, that's great.
This is such a name.
Well, like, he himself can take over solar systems by himself, but clearly the tyrantid threat is too much for him, which is unsurprisingly.
But that's crazy that he was subjugating galaxies?
Or at least subjugating barbarous possible issues, upstarts, et cetera, in other galaxies that could prove a threat.
Which, I mean, hey, that probably works out pretty well for humanity
Because hey, any threats that were in that galaxy, thanks.
You know?
Shy makes a good point, too, that the writing is purposely made in style of myths, ancient myths of the king.
Ah, yeah.
So, for example, here, as the fourth mantle of existence dawned and his people began to awake
was Zarek already amongst them, though his works and passage they marked not.
Humble and honest were his deeds, yet had his people known of them praise and riches would they have showered upon him.
The sleep of his people had been troubled by the gnawing of vermin and the last curse of the gods.
That's Glendigal, or Klanigled the Flair virus.
And Zerick mourned the loss and the change deeply, for none loved his people more than the silent king.
Damn.
So a little bit of that going on.
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
Definitely sort of that ancient human civilization myth, yeah, for sure.
He talks about the, and you can, you know, like, you can see in the images above, the hands reaching out to the stars.
Definitely.
You could see that as either the Necron's reaching out to the Katonan and old ones, or you could see it as the people reaching out back for their king's return.
Yeah.
God, that
That spread of that silent king
Looks so dope though
As I'm scrolling back up looking at all the
God, that looks so cool
Oh my God
It's pretty fascinating
Yeah
Especially as he returns
And he talks about how the purity
Of the eternal realm is at hand
Except a pretender vermin
Seek to undo
the just good
Of what the king has accomplished
Pretender vermin
Sheesh
That's
Damn
That is some smack talk
Man
It's some interesting stuff
Because it's clear
That the Silent King
wants to
Return people to flesh and blood
But it's almost not
His primary goal
It appears that his primary goal
Is just the
Absolute Subjugation
of the Gets
galaxy. The necrons are
the only
acceptable race.
Yeah, he, like, he wants, what is it?
Like, kind of he wants to make sure
that the necrons wake up and it's like,
it's just for us, everybody.
It's just all, oops, all necrons.
I got, okay, well,
we got to do two things. One, I got to post
this image because it always gets me.
Of course.
Sure. What a chat.
What a chat. And now I got to find the other,
I got to find the other meme,
which the one that Shai sent
way back when
which is the who started racism
The Necrons
Yes
Of course
I can't find it right now
But I love that one
The Necrons
What? No what?
No way
The king
Racism
Begins with a silent king
Yeah
Oh necrons
You quirky silver
boys. Oh, I found it.
Did you? Did you? Can you post it before shot? Oh, you did. Hey, well done. Good job. I'm proud of you.
But yeah, totally. The Necron started racism. Absolutely. 100%. Yep.
So it's, it's a fascinating little thing here. Talk like the idea that Zarek was out in other galaxies, uh, stopping upstarts or creating areas to allow them to survive once they wake up.
is just not something that we ever really experienced in Warhammer.
We don't ever leave the Milky Way.
In fact, the whole point of the Tyrannids is that it's the fear from outside the stars.
The other galaxies, yeah, above, below, and from the sides.
But at the same time, this also has such a mythical fairy tale style to it that it could just be Zerick sucking himself off.
It could.
You're right, it could, it could.
He really just found a bunch of empty planets and stuff,
and he's like, boy, it sure would be a good legend
if I was just like,
you know?
Right.
So it's a fascinating in between.
And shy is correct.
Well, shy, you're not quite correct.
I mean, the old ones were technically the first.
Yeah, technically the old ones.
But they're not around to tell their story anymore.
So, yeah, blah.
Yeah.
But I find it, I find a fascinating.
There's also a little extra bit that I definitely should not go uncovered, which is the Techno-Mandrites.
I'm not sure if Shai you remember as a Techno-Mandrites.
They are from an older series of lore on Warhammer, but they are basically a group of
Uber-Uber-Powerful cryptex that got a little too silly with their doomsday weapons.
Okay.
And so the silent king put them all in jail.
Okay.
They got a little too silly.
Gotta put them in time out because they got a little too silly.
Remember the celestial ory that blows up stars?
Yeah, at the push of a button.
Pretty positive.
Okay, so for one, I feel like GW should retcon that because it's a little much.
They really should.
Yeah, definitely.
But the technomansrites were absolutely the ones who created this stuff.
They are some of the most insane techno mansers.
cryptex out there.
And GW put them
or not GW
the song can't put them in jail.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The celestial or a little silly.
It's just a little silly.
They got a little silly.
Just a little silly.
Just a little silly.
Just a little silly.
In jail for being too silly.
Too silly.
Actually, can I
am I gonna look that?
Can I kind of find the in jail for being too silly
meme?
Oh, that's a meme?
Oh, here it is.
I got it.
I got the meme.
I got the meme.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
Well, that's adorable, though.
That poor little kiddie's in jail for being a little too silly.
Yeah, well, this cat's a little silly.
This cat's an air jail for being too silly.
Good old air jail, yeah.
But despite all, the Silent King has pardoned a few of them and let them out because to help with possible issues,
one of them being the reversal of biotransference, but also.
So, you know, just...
The nids.
The nids.
There's actually a funny story about one of the Necron dynasties that are collecting,
never-ending amounts of humans, Eldar, orcs, and so on, in order to...
In order to work on getting themselves back, but the nids have smelt that biomass, and they're like,
oh, damn!
A feast!
Let's go, boys!
All you could eat buffet!
Let's go, hometown buffet, baby!
So...
For the most part, also I guess we shouldn't not mention these two of them.
The final triarch also has haptatra, the radiant, and mesophet of the shadowed hand.
They wield the staff of stars and the scythe of dust, as well as the silent king.
So light and dark beginning and end?
Okay, okay, okay.
And he has the scepter of eternal glory.
Oh, wow, a little full of yourself, but all right.
Yeah, you know, the king
The silent king may be a guilty man
But he does not stop himself
When it comes to
Levels of
Personal grandeur
I was gonna say he's got a little vanity to him
Just a little vanity
But that's okay
He's good king
Good king deserves good things
You know, it's good to be the king
I mean
Out of all of the main figures
In 40K
He is not the most powerful
like physically.
Ancron would be like,
uh,
an opener his ass,
yeah.
Um,
so he,
like he's not like arm wrestling people,
but he might be outside of,
I mean,
the emperor is,
is dead kind of,
but not really.
Um,
the,
like one of,
if not the most powerful figure in Warhammer current.
And I,
I know it's like,
that's a massive necron
sucking off right now.
We do enjoy necron supremacy here.
We do enjoy a little bit of, we get a little silly.
We do get a little silly.
We do enjoy the silliness.
The power of his form and his ship, the strength of the armies he wields,
and just like the absolute perfect artifice that is his like form,
he is basically one of, if not the strongest playing single character in the galaxy right now.
Dang.
The only people that I think could give him a run for his money are...
Biggie?
Well, Biggie, it's hard because Biggie is, like, not really a person.
Well, pre-heresy Biggie.
Yeah, like, pre-heresy Biggie, obviously.
I feel like, you know, like, right now, Abidon controls some pretty crazy forces, but...
That's true. That's fair.
Curr, like, Abidon, yeah, yeah.
But also, like, yes, but also, like, no, because chaos is chaos, so...
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not sure how I feel about that Silent King from Magic.
gathering image.
I don't like...
So you looking at that now is how everyone else saw the silent king when his model
was revealed, just like a big necron.
Ah, okay.
Yeah, I was thinking like, you know, I guess I kind of get it now because he just looks
kind of plain.
Like he just, you know, like, you know?
Yeah, he just...
He looks like a necrone.
He looks like just a regular, plain old necrone.
He looks like a necrone.
He looks like a necron.
How dare he?
And now I'm mad about it.
I get it now, everybody.
I get it.
I'm so upset.
I get it.
Why does he look like a necrime?
How the turns have tabled.
But obviously, you know, it always comes down to how they're depicted and visually, etc.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But for the most part, as I mentioned, there isn't a whole lot of extra lore surrounding it.
But that's the big one.
The big one.
What the song King has been up to and just where, like, the, the possibility that he has not just been doing this whole thing, but having a depiction of pre-biotransference Necron Garb, the death mask of Necron's themselves, Necrontier, and where he's been out and about is kind of insane to just drop like that.
Yeah, that's pretty big. That's pretty big. I like that. That's cool.
This definitely deserved an episode, for sure.
It was fun. And the next episode will be a pretty big one to go along with everything.
So to keep on, keep on track.
I don't know if I know what big events are left to talk about.
Have I heard of it before?
Yeah, you've heard of it before.
Yeah, you've heard of it before.
Okay.
I didn't say it was going to be an event.
Oh, that's right.
It's just big.
It's just something big.
I was thinking like, you know, bad ab war big, you know, but.
I didn't say multi-part episode.
I said, okay.
I said a big thing.
So we're doing thousand sons.
That would be a big thing.
That'd be a big thing.
It would be.
Maybe you're right.
Maybe you're not.
Maybe I just changed the topic because you guessed it.
Ooh, that would be silly.
That would be very silly of you.
I'm going to go to jail for being too silly.
Air jail for being too silly.
Hear that?
That's me trying to break out of the bars.
I know you want to end it right there, but I refuse.
Goodbye, everyone.
