Adeptus Ridiculous - Ned Kelly: Outlaw Legend | Detective Ridiculous

Episode Date: December 3, 2023

https://www.unidentifiedsignal.com/ check out our new projecthttps://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collecti...ons/adeptus-ridiculousEdward Kelly a was an Australian bushranger, outlaw, gang leader and convicted police-murderer. One of the last bushrangers, he is known for wearing a suit of bulletproof armour during his final shootout with the police.In the century after his death, Kelly became a cultural icon, inspiring numerous works in the arts and popular culture, and is the subject of more biographies than any other Australian. Kelly continues to cause division in his homeland: some celebrate him as Australia's equivalent of Robin Hood, while others regard him as a murderous villain undeserving of his folk hero status. Journalist Martin Flanagan wrote: "What makes Ned a legend is not that everyone sees him the same—it's that everyone sees him. Like a bushfire on the horizon casting its red glow into the night."Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:16 Welcome everybody to another episode of Detective Ridiculous, where we talk about the only things more frightening than Warhammer, real life. Before we get started, if you would like to support the podcast, head on over to patreon.com slash adeptus Ridiculous, where you can get access to our Discord, bloopers if they happen, fantastic HD posters, all in a beautiful digital form you may keep, make it a phone wallpaper. God knows what you want to do. Patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Also, remember, it is bold. Black Friday, end of the year, Christmas sale right now. So if you spend over $100 redos on the Orchid 8 site, you get 15% off your order. So get it, grab yourself some Christmas stuff, get some stocking stuffers, whatever you'd like. It is all available down in the description. And, of course, if you really like the true crime stuff and you want to hear more of it, do make sure to check out the other channel that Shy and D.K. are working with as well.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Unidentified signal does its own kind of more true crime slash like mystery solving stuff. So that will also be in the description. Check it out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's more everything weird because on this one we can only really do like true crime stuff. On Unidentified, we can just do anything that's interesting. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Also, I'm wearing both the Just a Little Blood shirt and the, and the hoodie. They're great. Oh, the zip-up? Mm-hmm. Yeah, dude, the zip-up was a great addition. It's super nice. That's so nice.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I love them. They're great. Anyway, so our, did you pack a lunch, Pricky? I got a meeting at noon. That's in three hours. Are we going to make time? Yeah. Oh, that boat so much confidence.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Fine. I hope. So like, here's how it goes. Usually I write a script for these, right? And the longest one I've ever done was nine pages, right? So I don't know what our longest episode was, but that's the longest one I remember. This one's 12. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So I'm expected, like, maybe an hour and a half, hour, 45? Yeah. Yeah, it shouldn't go, well, I'm hoping it doesn't go two hours. But we'll see how it rolls. We'll see. So I won't waste your time. Let's dive right into this one. Because today we're going to be venturing back into the world of folk heroes.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We're going all the way back to sort of the middle to late 1800s. And we're going to be talking about one of, if not the most notorious folk heroes in Australia's history, Ned Kelly. Ned Kelly. Ned Kelly. That is the hardest image I have seen. is he's got like a wait Ned Kelly goes hard and we'll talk
Starting point is 00:03:16 about how crazy that image is because he's man's got the man's got the dark souls helmet and he's ready and he's got the gat this is great he's a badass Ned Kelly is a certified badass
Starting point is 00:03:33 so this is also going to be one of those episodes where right off the bat I got to tell people that there's no possible way I can give you every single little detail of what Ned Kelly did. So this is kind of sort of like the condensed greatest hits of Ned Kelly. Because again, legitimately there are Kelly historians that I think make a living covering just Ned Kelly's history. Anyway, that's kind of cart before the horse stuff. So let's talk about the Bush Ranger Australian legend that is Ned Kelly.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Of course he's Australian. Of course he's Australian. And of course he's a Bush Ranger. Of course he's a Bush. I wasn't sure you'd know what a Bush Ranger was because that's kind of an Australian slang term. Yeah, a little bit, but like you get the general gist. True, true.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I mean, it's, you know, context would tell you all you need to know. But before we get into like a lot of the important factors, you need to understand how Ned Kelly was shaped, the sort of world that he was born into. His father was John Red Kelly, and he wasn't exactly the most upstanding man in the eyes of the law. He was arrested for stealing pigs and was sentenced to seven years in jail in 1841, and he would end up being shipped from Ireland via prison ship to, a town called Hobart Town Van Demons Island
Starting point is 00:05:12 which is just what we call Tasmania now So he's just going to Tasmania I was like, are you making this up? Because that just doesn't sound real. That sounds like an 1840s town To be fair. You know, down in Hobart's town
Starting point is 00:05:27 Van Demons. That's 1840s. Have you ever seen the meme of the green text where it's like, like, Lao Min takes power, 247 million parish versus like Asian and Chinese and European history? I have not. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm sure shy has seen it, but it's fine. This is just how I imagine with this statement. Anyway, continue. And Bricky's head everything is just, there's just a meme factory where he's just making analogies, right? But after serving his sentence of seven years for stealing pigs, he would move to Victoria. where he would find work at farms as a bush carpenter, which is like a farm repairman builder, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Oh, don't you worry. Bush carpenter was my name in college. No, it wasn't. I mean, yeah, it definitely wasn't. But I mean, that's a pretty good sex joke. Bush carpenter, like, that's pretty funny. Yeah, but everybody knows neither of us is getting any action. So, like, come on.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, well, look at that. Shai does know the meme. Of course she does. Of course she does. All right, good. It's also worth noting that this is all happening around the time of the Australian gold rush. So we're all a little gold hungry and money hungry now, too, which is actually how we would end up meeting his wife, Ellen Quinn, who happened to be the daughter of the man that Red was currently employed by, man named James Quinn. He was helping repair their farm and do all sorts of building stuff. And, oh, what a pretty daughter you have. The two would marry on November 18th, 1850 in Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And then with all the hype surrounding the gold rush and finding gold and making it big, the two would move to a place called Beverage. It's a place a bit north of Melbourne. And they would try their luck at striking a fortune. Isn't it pronounced Melbourne or something? What? Melbourne? Australia?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Isn't it Melbourne? I thought they pronounced it not like Melbourne. I thought it was pronounced like Melbourne or like Melbourne or something like that. Oh, I don't know. I've always heard Melbourne or Melbourne. So if I'm saying it wrong, Australia, sorry. Feel free to roast me in the comments, I guess. But yeah, that's just how I've always heard it pronounced.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Fair enough. So if I'm wrong. It won't be the first time, and it surely won't be the last time. But Red Kelly would build a house for his family in beverage. And the only reason I mentioned that, like, oh, he built a house in beverage is because, like, to this very day, that house is still standing in beverage. Like, you can go to this house right now and see it. Like, the rusted roof, everything is still standing. Everything is still intact.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And I think it was purchased by the Victorian government in like 2019 to preserve the historical value of Ned Kelly's childhood home. So kind of impressive that it's still standing. It's still up. So Ned Kelly is this much of a legend that they bought his home to make sure. His childhood home makes sure nobody forgets about Ned Kelly. Pretty much? This guy is like... He, like, he is an Australian legend.
Starting point is 00:09:02 He better live up to this, because you're hyping this man up a lot. He does a lot of things. But I digress. The couple would have eight children together. One of their girls unfortunately passes away as an infant at only six months old. But their third child, their eldest boy. And the reason we're doing this episode was Edward Kelly. But he would always be known.
Starting point is 00:09:31 as Ned. And Ned's exact birthday. Oh, she gave you the Chad picture. Look at him. He looks like he bartends at an Oregon burger place. Let's go. He does look like an organ, like hipster bartender a little bit. He needs the vest and the bow tie and the sleeve tattoos.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yes. He looks at the picture that you would put on like a beard grooming. company label. He absolutely does. Exactly. I think a few beard brands actually do have him as their logo. I would. I mean, he's
Starting point is 00:10:11 free source. The Australians can't claim him. That's true. That's fair enough. But Ned's exact birthday is unknown. Because apparently his birth records and like the recording of his baptism were like lost or maybe destroyed
Starting point is 00:10:27 or misplaced or whatever. They just can't find. him so they have no idea the exact date he was born. But the speculation is that he was born sometime between like December 1854 and like June 1855. So things didn't exactly go great with the whole gold rush thing. And the Kellys really didn't find much success or much wealth. And they kind of can't afford to live in beverage anymore since they have, you know, seven children. So in 1864, when Ned was only about 10 years old,
Starting point is 00:11:06 they would move from beverage to a place called Avenel. And now we get to kind of sort of the tricky part, because 1850s Australia had some really weird, corrupt political stuff going on at the time. And I'm going to try and give you like an abridged version of it, which may or may not be. wrong because D.K. trying to explain politics is, whoof, that's a rough one. So there are people known as selectors. They are selector families. And they are allowed to kind of like, they're allowed to pick land that the crown would give them, since Australia is kind of like a British colony
Starting point is 00:11:51 at the time. So the crown is going to, yes. No way. Yes way. Oh no. Oh, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no, no. I got nothing. That's all I wanted to do. I wanted to make a British colony joke, and that's about it. But yes, at the time, Australia is a British colony, and these selector families are given land, but they are given this land on the condition that they have to better the land somehow.
Starting point is 00:12:19 They have to make the land better if they're going to stay there. Only problem with this is that there were already some settlers that had claimed, and I use that term claimed lightly because they actually very illegally took the land and were kind of using it for like their cattle and they were squatters. And literally they called themselves squatters and their sort of like union group was known as the, I hate saying this because it sounds like I'm going to, it sounds like I'm kidding. They're called the squatocracy. Oh, that is ripe for like an onion article.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, it is. They're the Squatocracy. And they had become really, really, really wealthy off of their illegally claimed land, which they were using this wealth to drive out selector families and just bribe the ever-loving hell out of the authorities and the police to do basically whatever they wanted. Okay, watch that language. What language?
Starting point is 00:13:31 The ever-loving, like, you know, calm down. Oh, well, excuse me. I would not want to burn your virgin ears, you know? I'm so sorry. Yeah, I love Australians a lot because they could give a shit about things like language. Oh, yeah. It is unfortunate that they cannot use their favorite word on YouTube, but it is... I was going to say, their favorite slang word is the word.
Starting point is 00:13:57 that will basically get you canceled in America. Ironically, it's not canceled. I remember hearing this specifically from YouTube. If you use the C word one time in any video, it is immediate demonetization. Wow, immediate? Just one. One use, gone.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The entire video is gone. We experienced that ourselves. Yeah, I think I used it in a video with Kirioth, and it was just like gone. Immediately. doubt. Dang. See, first it was the British. Now it's the Americans that are prejudiced against the Australians. Yep. But the reason I mentioned this like weird sort of political tug of war between like the crown, the selectors and the squatocracy is because the Kelly family were a selector family.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Or rather, the quins were a selector family and Red married into that. Now, not only is Red Kelly and his family on kind of the shit list for his past criminal days, but also he's a selector, and so the local police are being bribed to hate him. And it's not like they needed any help, because again, he has a criminal past, so it's, ooh. So Ned is growing up in a world where the police are pretty harsh, corrupt, and pretty unfair against his family. and to be fair, Red Kelly kind of didn't do himself any favors because he became a terrible drunk and already had a history of crime. And it would also be around this time that Ned Kelly would start to kind of gain some notoriety of his own. Because when he was just 11 years old, he would save a young boy named Richard Shelton from drowning in a creek called Hughes Creek.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Man, I played a video game about that. It was called Heavy Rain. I've never played Heavy Rain. I don't know if that's like a... Is that you actually save a kid from drowning in a creek in Heavy Rain? No, he doesn't. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Shy knows the reference. Oh, I've seen little clips of Heavy Rain, and he's like trying to save his kid, and he might... Jason. He might have like multiple personality disorder or something, and he might be doing it to himself. There you go.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, I saw a streamer playing that. I didn't see the end of it, though. Heavy rain was a great time. It doesn't hold up as well as it used to, but it was a great time. All right, continue. Okay. And for saving their son, Richard's parents, who were the owners of Avenel's Royal Mail Hotel, presented Ned with this just gorgeous green sash made of silk and lined with, like, this gold-colored fabric.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And the reason I mention this is because Ned gets a little famous from that. and he treasures this sash for the rest of his life. This is a prized possession of Ned Kelly's. And during the 1865, 1866 area, Ned's father, Red Kelly would have a really rough time at just life in general. They weren't really making much money due to their selection. land not being the greatest for farming and cultivation, and because they weren't really making any money doing the farming and the cultivating, Red kind of fell back into his old ways, and he
Starting point is 00:17:39 started doing shady stuff again. I've seen reports saying that he was stealing meat, stealing hides, stealing cattle, stealing calves, disorderly drunkness. It wasn't a great time for old red Kelly. Ned's dad was not having a good time. And in 1866, his dad was arrested and sentenced to six months hard labor. Or he was ordered to pay a fine of like 25 pounds, which 25 pounds doesn't sound like a lot, but apparently in the 1800s, that's about $3,700. Oh, crap. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. That kind of sucks. Wait, is it with the fine yes to the hard labor, or is it a hard labor or fine? Hard labor or fine. And since Red doesn't have a lot of money, since the Kelly family, not a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:18:36 he kind of has to just hunker down and do the time and do the labor. And after being released, Red Kelly still not in the best of health. Most sources I've seen said that Red Kelly basically just kind of drank himself to death. Oh, lovely. Yeah, he basically just drinks himself to death because, you know, after everything that happened, he's poor, he's a thief, he's an outlaw, the police hate him, he's coming out of jail, still no money, still the police hate him, still people are trying to get him off his land. He just becomes a crippling alcoholic. I've also seen some sources say that he was also dying from something called Dropsy, which I looked it up, and it seems like Dropsy is like really bad swelling due to like fluid retention,
Starting point is 00:19:35 but it also seems to coincide with heart failure. Oh, okay. Well, you know, I was going to say, do you know, have you heard of Dropsy? Because you used to... Not, not, I was, I wasn't like, like a, like a doctor or anything. Right, right, right. I think I remember hearing a little, like, like, there was like a little footnote or something, but, um, I think, if anything, him drinking himself to death would lead to that type of stuff. Yeah, the fluid retention and the, yeah, yeah, and the swelling, sure, sure. I'm sure him just going on a massive drinking bender probably did not help.
Starting point is 00:20:13 No. And, uh, according to one source I found at the time, there was really, Really no way to cure dropsy? There's nothing they could really do. And so Red Kelly would just kind of pass away on December 27th, 1866, when Ned Kelly was only 12 years old. Damn, kid saves this guy from drowning and then his dad dies and he's like, yeah, karma. Yeah, yeah. And the Kellys would have to move to Greta, where they could be closer to Ellen Quinn's
Starting point is 00:20:47 family. And Greta, when I looked at a map, it kind of looks like it's in northeastern-ish Australia, just if anybody wanted to know where Greta was, sort of. And up until this point, our episode has basically been, hey, look at Ned's parents. Hey, look at politically corrupt Australia, where Ned is being raised. But now that his father, Red, has passed away, Ned really had no choice but to grow up way faster than any 12-year-old boy should. I mean, don't you grow up, like, isn't 12-year-old kind of like 17 kind of at that time frame, though, because you died a lot sooner and so you kind of had to get yourself together? I mean, I guess in the 1800s, that's true.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Like, it's probably not uncommon that a parent or parents would die when their kids were a fairly young age, because it's the 1800s, like, you know, you get the flu and they can't cure that. Right. I might be thinking of like the 7th, the 1500s more so, I guess, because then you like, you like married and had a kid at like 16 and you were like king by 20 and then you die at 30. Yeah, but that was back when it was like, oh, no, I got a cut on my leg. I guess I'll just die because we don't have basic medicine and the infection is going to
Starting point is 00:22:04 kill me. I've got tetanus. I'm dead. Exactly. Yeah, no tetan shot. so fair enough. Fair enough. But he was the eldest son of the Kelly family now, and that made him the man of the house.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He was expected to provide for the family and get them through this crazy financial trouble that they were in. And that has got to be a crippling burden for a 12-year-old whose dad just passed away has to endure. I mean, even in the times, that's got to be like, oh, God, what do I do? and the world kind of hates me and my family and oh boy oh god so ned kind of feels like he has to fall into a life of crime much like dear old dad um it's the only way he could really support the family and bring home the bacon uh specifically he would start to follow in the footsteps of a well-known bush ranger named harry powers
Starting point is 00:23:04 uh who would take ned under his wing Stop, DK. What? What? What? That's his name. It's such a Simpson's name. I tried to power past that because I was like he's going to say something.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I got to just be talking. Yeah, I am. I tried. But not just the Harry Powers thing. It's another beard commercial man. He, well, I mean, isn't, although I guess to be fair, every beard brand probably uses basically a pseudo-18- outlaw dude. That's like the logo, right?
Starting point is 00:23:41 I know. You are right. Yeah, that is true. But goddamn. I mean, it is a magnificent beard, though. So. Hairy power. It's hairy. No, it needs to be hairy power as in like the two, like, you know, it's like spelled like hairy. So it's the new brand. It's Harry Power, uh, beard cleaning products. Power wash your beard with the hairy power.
Starting point is 00:24:07 beard wash. You'll never be as strong as Ned Kelly, but you can look like him. But you can have a beard that's just as good. Anyway, so Harry Power takes Ned under his wing to be sort of this outlaw mentor to Ned. And by the way, Bush Ranger is kind of the Australian term for like an outlaw who hides and operates in the bushes, a convict on the run from the law. But you already knew that. Yeah. I kind of... It's... It's the Australian Ronan. Yeah, sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It is basically, yeah. I hate myself for that comparison. Yes, you know, it is what it is. And with how corrupt the police were at the time, Bush Rangers actually had a staggering amount of sympathizers who would like give them general aid, shelter, food, whatever support they needed and they could give. which would probably also explain Ned's fondness for the lifestyle of bush ranging. I don't know if that's how you say it. Is that a proper verb? I'm bush ranging. I'm a
Starting point is 00:25:20 bushranger and I bush range. I don't think that. I mean, I bush ranged a lot in college. No, you didn't. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. No, you didn't. I didn't either. But that's okay. Don't, don't lie about it, though. But the, the Bush Rangers were fighting the man and taking it to the corruption of the police who imprisoned and crippled his father. They were the corruption that made it so difficult for Ned and his family to have a stable, normal life. Of course, Ned was going to take to the life of a Bush Ranger, especially at such a, like, a young, impressionable age, too.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And when Ned was around 14 or 15, he would have his first real brush with the law. he was arrested and charged with assaulting a Chinese merchant. And from what I've read... Was it because he was Chinese, or was he just like, I'm stealing your stuff? So, let's talk about it. So from what I've read, the merchant claimed that Ned Kelly came up to him with a large stick, declaring that he was like, oh, I'm a bush ranger. I'm a badass.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Ooh, look at me. I'm bush ranger. before he just started to beat the Chinese merchant with the stick and robbed him of a bunch of his money. Okay, okay. So he was being a thief. All right. I thought he, when the way you said Chinese merchant,
Starting point is 00:26:46 I was like, oh no, is Ned Kelly like about attack this man because of that stuff? It is the 1800s. So it's not like that would have been completely uncommon to you. No, probably not. But Ned claims that that's not what happened at all. the way Ned tells the story is very, very different.
Starting point is 00:27:09 The way Ned tells the story is that he was actually coming to the aid of his sister, Annie. Apparently, the Chinese merchant had asked Ned's sister for a drink of water, which she gave him, no problem. After getting the water, the merchant apparently started to, like, yell at her and use abusive language and, like, raised a fist at her and was like, oh, I'm going to. to beat you up, which caused her to run inside her house. And after seeing the horrible way that this merchant was treating his sister, Ned was like, uh-uh, and just starts to beat the merchant silly with his big-ass stick. So he was stopping domestic violence in his story. Yes. And in the merchant story, he was just, you know, trying to assert dominance by beating the ever-loving hell out of a merchant for no reason other than to take his money.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Ironically, I feel like both answers are still reasons to think that Ned Kelly is a baller because the idea of him just being like, damn, give me your money and then beats him with a stick is kind of funny. And then also, it's like, hey, he's also defending his sister. So either way, he's, he's, he's an outlaw. He's currently, he's currently stacking the deck in his hands. Yeah. but Ned's sister and a few of their
Starting point is 00:28:32 family friends had testified in favor of Ned's side of the story while the Chinese merchant couldn't provide any hard evidence or witnesses so Ned wasn't charged with any sort of crime and to sort of interject in the story for a second this is going to be how a lot of the history of Ned Kelly's going to go There are going to be times where, like, oh, here's Ned Kelly's perspective on what happened.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And then there's going to be a perspective from like, oh, but here's what the corrupt police said happened. And, you know, you're going to have to like walk this fine line of like, who do you want to trust here? Like you've got the account of a Bush Ranger outlaw criminal who, you know, isn't exactly trustworthy. But on the other side, you have super, absolutely disgustingly corrupt. police that are also very untrustworthy. So mentally, you kind of got to figure out, like, who exactly do I want to trust? Are either of them right? Is it somewhere in the middle? But the relationship between Harry Power and Ned Kelly would also sour over time. I mean, they were a known Bush Ranger team that even the local papers were talking about. Like,
Starting point is 00:29:53 there were articles about how, unless somebody gets in Ned's, ear, then oh man, Harry Power is going to drag him into a life of crime, and he'll never be saved, and he'll just, he'll become a ruffian outlaw. And the two were committing crimes, robberies, and stuff like that all over the place. But Ned could never positively be identified. Like, he would get taken in a few times because he fit the description of an eyewitness, but nothing would ever stick. He was just sort of Harry Powers, mysterious. helper type of guy. But things would take a bit of a turn in June of 1870 when Harry Power would be arrested by a police
Starting point is 00:30:40 search party that just happened to know where he was hiding out. The common theory at the time was that Ned Kelly had actually betrayed Harry Power and given up where he was hiding. But why? What's the other theory? Well, people assumed that Ned Kelly, his star outlaw people, would give up his mentor because they also knew that Ned had been arrested a bunch of times. And, you know, like we said, somehow it never stuck. And they could never get someone to, you know, pin him down.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And he always somehow went free. What if Ned Kelly had given the police information so that they would just let him go? And that's why they could never pin him down because it was like, oh, if you let me go, I'll help you out with Harry Power. I'll tell you where he's hiding. I know where he sleeps. As it turned out, the person that snitched on Harry Power wasn't Ned, but it was actually Ned's uncle, a man by the name of Jack Lloyd, who had done the deed. for 500 pounds, which again does not sound... No, no, no, that's...
Starting point is 00:31:58 What is that? Like, like 40 grand or something? That is $75,000 by today's currency. Yeah, I'd snitch. Yeah, 75,000 big ones. And it's like, well, he's going to jail for six years. I can get out of the dollars with 75 grand by then, sure, sure. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:32:21 He can make his way to the Americas, live a nice life for a long time. Yeah. Well, Shai just said she would sell me out for 70-gritty-gritty-gritty? Really, shy? I'd say, yeah, for half. After all we've been through? I am hurt. Shy, don't you dare.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I would sell, I'll sell them out for 60. Pick me. Whoa, wait a minute. Oh, well, fine. I would sell you both out for a McDonald's happy meal. So... I'd sell you out for replica Thorne. Well, I...
Starting point is 00:32:50 But I have a replica. That's not nice. Happy Meals worse though. And steal your replica thorn. Oh, well, see, now that, you would sell me out because you want my replica thorn. There you go. There you go. It's the only good thing I ever got from Destiny was that replica thorn.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Still, favorite gun in Destiny. Still, absolutely. It hurts so much more now. It's, oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Hey, hi, you're looking forward to Destiny 3? Anyway, so I want to tell one more instance of Ned Kelly getting into trouble because I actually found it kind of comical. So Ned is a pretty notorious Bush Ranger outlaw at this point.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Like he's in and out of prison. He is, I'm living the life, right? He's living the life. But a horse tamer, a friend of his named Will Wright, well, his name is Isaiah. Um, but his nickname is wild. So we're going to call him wild right, uh, because it sounds cool. But his friend Wild Wright, uh, lets him borrow a horse, a mare. Um, and if you were wondering, they knew each other because, uh, Wright's kind of like a friend of a friend to Kelly. Um, they were both friends with a man named Alex Gunn. Alex Gunn is going to marry one of Ned's sisters. So
Starting point is 00:34:13 their acquaintances. That's how they know each other. Um, but anyway, so Ned is right. So Ned is riding around on this borrowed mayor without a care in the world. Just, hooray, this is a very nice horse. It's a very uniquely colored horse. Hooray, good for me. When a constable, which is basically like, you know, a sheriff type person, a constable by the name of Edward Hall sees him. And Edward Hall is fairly sure that the mayor that Ned Kelly is riding is actually a stolen horse. It's the horse that Wild Wright stole. Because like I said, it has this distinctive pattern to it. I think it's like chestnut
Starting point is 00:34:51 colored with like a docked off tail and it had like this really unique patch of white on its chest. So he's fairly sure that's the one. And Wild Wright in his defense was like, oh, I didn't steal
Starting point is 00:35:07 it. I simply borrowed it without asking. Ah, yes, of course. I did that once to the IRS And they didn't take it particularly funny Yeah somehow they were just like Yeah that's the same thing I was like what I borrowed it without asking
Starting point is 00:35:23 It's totally different and not illegal So Edward Hall convinces Ned to You know hey pull over I gotta talk to you about something You know something fairly innocent like that He just he wants to get Ned off of that horse So Ned's like all right cool You know let me just get off my horse here for a second
Starting point is 00:35:41 And Hall tries to immediately grab him by force and take him to the ground and arrest him. But Ned's a pretty strong dude and he was able to resist. Several sources I've seen said that Hall tried to pull a pistol on Ned and shoot him, but by some miracle, or maybe just Hall doesn't know how to maintain his gun, his gun misfired three times in a row. Three times in a row this thing misfires. What's the scene of whole fiction?
Starting point is 00:36:13 When he shoots all the shots, he just misses. Yeah. That's a coming to God moment, right? That's a miracle. Yeah. God damn it. Hey, don't blast for me. Jesus Christ, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Don't do that. Well, that. Movie, it's great. Continue. I've also seen a couple sources say that, you know, when the misfire happened, you know, Ned kind of starts, you know, getting into a fight with him, and he mounts him. and like literally digs the spurs on his heels
Starting point is 00:36:47 into Edward Hall's guts. Like he's riding a horse and just spurs him in the gut with these spurs. And it wasn't until like, I think seven other people showed up and had to help Edward Hall get Ned off of him and actually subdue Ned Kelly. At which point, with the help of seven
Starting point is 00:37:13 other people, Edward Hall, since his pistol wouldn't fire right, decides that, you know what, Ned, I am just going to pistol whip the ever-loving God out of you. Like, no joke, he goes to town on Ned,
Starting point is 00:37:29 and apparently it is this bloody affair that just left Ned a bloody heaping mess, just absolutely shrugged, if you will. Even though they determined in court that Ned couldn't have stolen this horse.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It couldn't happen because he was actually he was in jail when the horse had initially been stolen. They still gave him three years of hard labor for get this, feloniously receiving a horse. Folloniously. What a term.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He was given three years hard labor for feloniously receiving a horse. Yeah. Three years. Three years. He has a history, too, I guess. So maybe they want to just really drive it home that, hey, buddy, we know about you. And Wild Wright, the person who borrowed the horse was only sentenced to 18 months.
Starting point is 00:38:33 What the hell? I know. 18? He's the one that stole the horse. But Ned's dad got like six months for... Crap, what did he get six months for again? Oh, yeah, for, what was it, stealing pigs, cattle, hides. Yeah, and just being disorderly drunk.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Okay, well, like, he stole that crap, but he steals one horse and he gets six times the sentence? To be fair, again, that probably has a lot to do with the sort of really weird, corrupt political police force, too, right? where they're just like, there's no consistency. They're case to case making the rules as they go, right? So they're probably just like, oh, it's Ned Kelly. Oh, we've been trying to get this jerk for a while. Let's really stick it to him. This guy stole a horse.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I don't really know you. Whatever, 18 months, I guess. I guess that's fair. Well, it's not fair, but I guess that's true. Oh, it's far from fair. Also, this would be around April of 1871. So, that story already pretty great, but gets better. When Ned was released on February 2nd, 1874, which, if you can believe this, he was released early due to good behavior.
Starting point is 00:39:54 But he still had some beef to settle with old, wild right. The way I heard the story, it goes a little something like this. Ned was apparently having a drink at a place called the Embrylop. Imperial Hotel in Beachworth, which is actually still standing today. An old Wild Wright strode in. Ned Kelly then did what any good 1800s man with a score to settle would do. He challenged him to a bare knuckle boxing match out back of the hotel. Damn it, I was hoping it would be a duel.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I guess it's sort of in a sense kind of a duel, but not the duel I was expected. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for 20 rounds, Ned proceeded to give Wild Wright what he called the beating of his life. For wait, for 20 rounds? For 20 rounds, Ned beat the shit out of Wild Wright. So, I don't know if a round, because a round is like three minutes in today's boxing. I don't know if it's like two,
Starting point is 00:40:56 but also like amateur boxing was two minutes and stuff. So I don't know how many rounds, but to think the possibility, if it was three rounds, he took him for over an hour to just beat the shed of him is hilarious. He took him to the shed. He took him to the shed.
Starting point is 00:41:14 He took him to the cleaners. Yeah. And there is this absolutely great photo you can see of Ned standing in an old-timey boxing pose after his victory over Wild, right? Doesn't look like he even broke a sweat. You know, he's like, oh, put up your dukes. Like, it's just, is great?
Starting point is 00:41:30 Look at that man. Look at how, I love how, like, I love how like... It's all beard advertisement. It's all beer advertisement, but I also just love how every guy from back then looks like they were built like a fridge. You know,
Starting point is 00:41:43 because it's all about like food and hard labor. No one was trying to get lean or anything. So everyone was just like built like a cylinder. They're trying to get stacked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. And apparently Ned did indeed beat some sense into Wild Wright
Starting point is 00:41:57 because after the fight, Wild Wright becomes one of Ned's most loyal and adamant supporters and sympathizers. He did not want to cross-net again. He only took him. I wonder if like after round four while Wright was like, all right, fine, fine. But Ned was like, I just don't believe you
Starting point is 00:42:19 when he took another 16 rounds. He's like, I'm not going to knock you out yet. Boom, boom. And he just, oh, man, he must have gotten just, he wasn't thinking straight after that. Shrys is after that one fight. Ned was declared the unofficial boxing champion of the district. Yes, he was.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I did see that and I forgot to put, yes, he was indeed the boxing champion of the district after absolutely whooping old wild right. Now, to kind of speed things up a little bit, Ned would go on to try and make an honest attempt to be a law-abiding citizen. even got an honest job at a sawmill, tried to make an honest wage, just like a general builder, kind of like what his dad did, you know, as a bush builder type of guy. But apparently the police just wouldn't leave him alone, and were pretty constant with their like harassment of him
Starting point is 00:43:19 and just jabbing and poking at him, so much so that he would claim that the only reason he returned to becoming a Bush Ranger outlaw, The only reason he returned to a life of crime was because of just how unfair the treatment he got from the police was. So he was like law-abiding doesn't matter when the law is being served by these guys. Yep, pretty much. But again, much like his dad, he didn't exactly make life easy for himself either because he was getting ridiculously drunk on the regular
Starting point is 00:43:57 and he was starting brawls. He was started... So not only was he just starting like drunken brawls with like, you know, patrons and stuff, he was starting drunken brawls with the police. So he was constantly getting drunk
Starting point is 00:44:11 and like getting into brawls with the police officers that were unfairly harassing him. So he wasn't... He wasn't completely blameless. No, no, but considering how the policemen have been acting... True. It's not unheard of
Starting point is 00:44:26 that he would get drunk and want to just throw down with the police either. But again, it's not like he was, you know, he wasn't making it easy. Sure. Anyway, he would actually join up with his stepfather, George King, and his own brother, Dan Kelly, to start stealing horses with a gang known as the Greta mob. And the Greta mob was known for their... So most places say the Greta mob is known for their flash style of fashion, which I'd assume was a term used because they wore like flashy, bright colors. They had like these red sashes that they used and they just generally tried to stand out in a crowd.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Apparently they were known for wearing boots with something called the larkin heels on them, which kind of just looked like boots with like high heels on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wore the red sash, they were fancy clothes, and those heels on their shoes. That's apparently a larkin heel. So two things. One, unfortunate that it's all in lack of colors, so we can't really necessarily know. But two, look at that second dude's eyes. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Look at that thousand-yard stare he's got right there. He is not there. He is somewhere else. It's like, where'd you go, buddy? Where have you gone? He's like the camera has to take seven minutes to charge up so he's been standing and holding that pose the whole time and he's just missing. He's just frozen. They also, some of them had this really stupid-looking tradition of wearing the chin strap of their hat under their nose.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And it looks so dumb to me, but it's the 1800s. Like, what do I know? And obviously, since they were horse thieves, they would love nothing more. than to flaunt their horse riding skills at really any given opportunity. So, one of the Greta mob's sales of stolen horses
Starting point is 00:46:34 kind of goes south, and the police are now on to what the Kelly family are doing with the Greta mob. Like they've arrested a few of their accomplices, and they're closing in fast on Ned and his younger brother. So much so,
Starting point is 00:46:52 that they have a proper arrest warrant being written up for Ned's younger brother Dan, specifically for horse theft. And there is a constable. It goes by the name of Fitzpatrick, who, after reading that there was a warrant that was being written up for Dan, decided, you know what? I should take myself to the Kelly's home in Greta and make the arrest myself. you know, get ahead of the warrant and, you know, make a name for myself. Look at that helmet. Yeah, look at that helmet. That's old Constable Fitzpatrick. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. It should be noted that Constable Fitzpatrick was a corrupt piece of police officer that was generally disliked by all who knew him. But this is how, I was going to say, if you look at him, it's like, yeah, he looks like a piece of shit. You know, I'm looking at the hat and I'm wondering if he grows like Pinocchio. Every time he is more corrupt, the hat just gets a little taller. I hope so that hat is not tall enough yet.
Starting point is 00:48:00 It is not. But this is how Constable Fitzpatrick claims the events of the night of April 15th, 1878, went when he tried to arrest Dan. So, Constable Fitzpatrick rides out to the Kelly home only to find, Dan and Ned's mother at home. So he politely sits and talks with their mother for a little while, making small talk, you know, how are you doing? Oh, you know, until Dan finally makes his way back home with his brother-in-law, Bill Skilling. So Fitzpatrick is going to make the arrest.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And, you know, as he's making, he's like, oh, Dan, I'm branyin for horse theft and and I've got a warrant and all that stuff. And Dan's like, you know, I've had a long day constable. I haven't really eaten yet So before you take me in Can I have dinner? First, can you let me have dinner before you take me in? And the constable's like, yeah, sure,
Starting point is 00:48:59 have some dinner first. Why not? You know what? I'll even join you for dinner before I lock you up for however long. And as they were having dinner, Ned Kelly returns home and he comes into that house literally guns blazing. Like I don't know if he had a six cents. He saw the lawman,
Starting point is 00:49:19 through the window, saw the horse, maybe a neighbor or sympathizer tipped him off, but anyway, he starts blasting. His initial shots missed, but in the now struggle between Ned and Constable trying to, like, dodge bullets and stuff, his mother absolutely clobbers Constable Fitzpatrick over the head with a shovel. Let's go. That's fantastic. Just bam!
Starting point is 00:49:51 And Ned manages to land a shot on the constable's wrist, and he just... The brother-in-law Bill Skilling and neighbor, and their neighbor by the name of... I think his name is William Williamson, which is such an 1800s name. Having heard the gunshot, rush in to help Ned restrain and disarm the constable. They dig the bullet out of his wrist with a knife, and they let him go with a stern warning that if he tells anyone what happened here today,
Starting point is 00:50:22 ooh, we're going to find you, and we're going to finish the job. Now, according to Ned, this is his account of what happened that night. There's a lot of like, according to Ned's situations in this one. There is, there is. But according to Ned, he wasn't even home that night.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Like, the way he tells it, he was some 200 miles away from home at the time. And the way he tells it, so the constable shows up at the house and does attempt to arrest Dan. A lot of that is the same. It's like, oh, hey, Dan, I'm going to arrest you. And Dan's like, oh, man, come on, it's been a long day. Let me have dinner first. All that's basically the same.
Starting point is 00:51:08 But where things start to differ is because at some point, Fitzpatrick tells them, mother, like, hey, I'm here to arrest your kid, and I have a warrant for his arrest. And Dan's mother is like, you have a warrant. Well, I want to see the warrant. Let me see your arrest warrant, because that's what you're basing all this on. And Fitzpatrick was like, well, I wouldn't say I physically have an arrest warrant. But I have a telegram saying one's being written up for him. So Dan's mother's like, so you got nothing on my kid.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You got nothing, and he doesn't have to go with you if he doesn't want to, so you can promptly fuck off. And apparently, this made the constable so upset that he drew his pistol on Dan and Ned's mother and threatened to blow her brains out if she kept interfering. And, okay, and then he got a monk. Nice. Well, after that, Dan and his mother made sort of this big show of being like, yeah, well, Well, if Ned were here, you'd be too much of a bitch to even pull out your gun because you know he'd school you. And then Dan proceeds to pull the oldest trick in the book. He looks out the window and he's like, whoa, here comes Ned, constable. Oh, he's going to get you.
Starting point is 00:52:29 And the constable fell for it, gets distracted looking out the window. Dan wrestles the gun away from him, empties it, and kicks the constable out of his house with no real violence used against him. I can't believe he fell for that. He fell for it. I mean, look at the guy. I could believe that this dough boy could fall for it. I mean, corrupt doesn't always mean stupid. But God damn.
Starting point is 00:52:57 True, true, true. But that's Ned's side of the story. And, well, actually, that's Dan's side of the story that he told to Ned because Ned wasn't even there, apparently. And as you can imagine, the authorities took Constable Fitzpatrick's word, the Kellys because of course they did. A 100-pound reward was put on Ned's head because he was nowhere to be found, but also his mother was arrested, his stepbrother was arrested, and so was the neighbor who supposedly helped restrain him.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Bill and the neighbor were sentenced to a whopping six years of hard labor, and the elderly mother of Dan and Ned, who was actually nursing another child, was sentenced to three years hard labor for aiding and abetting the attempted murder of Fitzpatrick. Which the general public was not a big fan of. They were like, this little old lady is being sentenced to hard labor? Y'all, we thought you were corrupt, but this is crazy. So...
Starting point is 00:54:08 Wait. Six years of hard-neighbor for which people again? So this is Bill Skilling, which is the brother-in-law, I believe, and Will Williamson, who was the neighbor. These two rushed in and helped Ned disarm and restrain Fitzpatrick, according to Fitzpatrick. Right, so they got six years hard labor for interfering with, like, a police officer, basically. Yeah, yeah. And the mother was sentenced to three years. lady that's nursing it three
Starting point is 00:54:42 years. I'm starting to feel like this is just to fuck the police story, but like the Australian version. Yeah, specifically the Victorian police. Yeah. They don't come out looking very good. So, the brothers
Starting point is 00:54:58 Dan and Ned were on the run as proper fugitives of the law now. We've gone from, you know, some petty theft, stealing horses and cattle to, uh-oh, a attempted murder of a police officer. While they were on the run,
Starting point is 00:55:14 they would be joined by men named Steve Hart and Joe Byrne, who were close friends and members of the Greta mob with the Kelly brothers. And I think Joe Byrne was actually one of Ned's closest friends. They were like thick as thieves, as one might say. At this point, they weren't really
Starting point is 00:55:33 the Greta mob anymore. They weren't really running with them. They were on their own, so they were more known as the Kelly gang. They're the Kelly gang, because Ned is kind of like the big, bad ringleader at this point. He's got his brother with him. He's got his really close friends with him, too. So it's a catchy name for a catchy group.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Now, the Kelly gang decided they needed to make some quick cash because they wanted to try to appeal this ridiculous sentence that their mother got. So they start heading to a place called Bullet Creek, which is when I looked at it on a map, it looked like it was kind of like, maybe the middle of Australia, maybe southern middle of Australia, maybe a bit north of Melbourne. And here, they would attempt to make a whiskey distillery in order to, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:22 earn the necessary funds to appeal the sentence. But they were also aided by local sympathizers as well. Because like I said, everybody's like, oh, Bush Rangers, you guys are fighting those jerk police officers and like the government. Oh, man, please. Please, please, please, take our aid, take our sympathies.
Starting point is 00:56:42 We're going to help you out with whatever we can, rations, supplies. But most importantly, the best thing that these sympathizers offered the Kelly gang was information. Information like that, oh, I don't know, that the police knew and had information that the Kelly gang were based in Bullet Creek now. And they were actually sending mounted police officers to try to ambush one of their Kelleck. campsite hideouts at an infamous place called Stringy Bark Creek. Stringy Bark Creek. Stringy Bark Creek. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So after the Kelly sympathizers passed this information along to the Kelly gang, Ned was like, you know what, let me ride around the area. This is good information, and I want to see if maybe I can figure out where they are, see if I can get some tracks and see where they are. And he does. He finds the tracks that the mounted police force left, and he follows it all the way to their camp. So there are four officers that were sent to try and get the Kelly gang,
Starting point is 00:57:53 and two of them were out on patrol looking for the Kellys. And little did they know after they left, the Kelly gang would jump up and ambush the remaining two officers. officers at the camp. And what happens next is a little up for debate because, again, conflicting reports from the Kelly gang and conflicting reports from corrupt police officers. So according to the Kelly gang, they sort of jump out of the bush and they told the two officers to surrender, drop your weapons, freeze.
Starting point is 00:58:27 One of the officers, a man named McIntyre, did surrender police peacefully, while the other officer named Lonigan. was shot and killed. And it should be noted that Officer Lonegan and Ned had a little history with each other. So when Ned was younger, he was being, you know, arrested and he was being subdued. But he was putting up this crazy fight, you know, like he just would not be restrained. And it took three officers just really working hard to subdue him and all this stuff. Lonnigan was one of the officers that was trying to restrain him, and Ned Kelly himself
Starting point is 00:59:12 explained it like this. Finding me a more difficult man to manage than they expected, Lonigan seized me in such a manner a cruel, cowardly, and disgusting manner that he inflicted terrible pain on me. In order to subdue Ned Kelly, Lonigan had vice gripped his balls to bring him to the... Ah, the inspector gadget method, yes. He gripped him by the manhood. And after this encounter, Ned had this really infamous quote towards Lonegan saying,
Starting point is 00:59:48 I've never shot a man, but if I do, so help me God, you'll be the first. All right, that's pretty good. That's a solid, uh... That's a solid quote, right? That's a pretty solid quote. Yeah. And that quote would come to fruition because Ned Kelly did in fact shoot and kill Lonnigan dead that day.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And that would be the first man that Ned Kelly shot. The only real- Good for Ned Kelly. Yeah. I think. He was, question mark. Congratulations on the murder. Yeah, congrats, I guess.
Starting point is 01:00:27 The only real dispute is if Lonigan was shot in cold blood or in cell. self-defense. Ned claims that Lonigan had like dove behind cover and he was like poking his head out trying to shoot Ned. And McIntyre claims that Lonnigan was shot dead just as he was making a motion to unholster his pistol. So you've got one side saying, whoa, it was self-defense. He was shooting at me. And the other was like, yeah, he gunned him down before he could even defend himself. So, I mean, based on on what, if we're taking Ned's side of the story, I think gunning him down in cold blood isn't like the worst thing he could have done? No, but in the odds of the jury,
Starting point is 01:01:07 it's like, well, did you, is it a crime or not? True, the jury is the bigger issue. Yeah, yeah. Ned kind of justified, but the law might not see it that way. So, McIntyre is subdued. He's surrendered peacefully,
Starting point is 01:01:24 and Lonnigan is, well, dead. So the Kelly gang resets the ambush. They ransack the police weapons, and now they're going to ambush the other two officers that are out looking for them. Two guys named Kennedy and Scanlan. So those two come back to the camp, and much like the first ambush, the Kelly gang springs up and it's like, hey, surrender, drop your weapons.
Starting point is 01:01:48 We've already taken out your buddy's over there, and the other one's dead, and McIntyre's like, yeah, listen to him. Hey, stop, stop. But Kennedy and Scanlan are just like, no, no, no. And they try to arm themselves and fight back. against the Kelly gang ambush. Again, the debate here is one of cold-blooded murder, or was it maybe self-defense?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Because the police party claims that Scanlan never even had a chance to get his rifle off his horse. Like, he may have been going for it, but he didn't even get it off the horse before Ned just gunned his ass down. But the Kelly gang claimed that Scanlan took, like, multiple shots, specifically aiming at Ned, before Ned retaliated and gunned him down. It seems like a lot of the times Ned's being shot at.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Sure does. He's getting shot at by like other people that probably, it's probably like, oh, I believe the Ned's story. So he's cool, or I believe the cop story. So I'm going to shoot him on site. It seems like a lot of the cops obviously would believe the cop story. So he's like dangerous. Yeah. So he's armed and dangerous.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Shoot on site. Don't give him a chance or he's going to. gun you down, yeah, yeah. And Kennedy, well, Kennedy took a shotgun shell right to the chest when he was trying to run away from Ned. Apparently, he's like running away from Ned, and Ned kind of has him cornered against, like, a tree, and he's got his back to Ned, and so the officer's like, well, shoot, he's got me, and he drops his pistol. but Ned doesn't see him drop his pistol and he like swings around really quick to put his arms up
Starting point is 01:03:31 but Ned didn't realize that he dropped his pistol so Ned's like oh he's swinging around to shoot me and just boom blows him out of the water with a shotgun Is that the story of Ned or is that the story of the cops? Um, I think that was Ned's side of it actually. Okay, because like, because yeah, because you know, It depends. Yeah, that one, that one could also depend, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:00 And in all the commotion, because McIntyre was unarmed and not a threat, he was actually able to get on one of the horses and flee the scene. And when he fleed the scene, he would report to the authorities that, of course, the Kelloggang had just killed three other officers in cold blood. Self-defense, no way. It was cold blood. Which, as you might imagine, news of this caused. just a little panic among the general populace.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Oh, sorry, I lost my place. So in response to this, the government of Victoria did two things. First, they put a reward of 2,000 pounds on the Kelly Gang, which I believe is in the ballpark of 300 grand. That's a lot of money. a lot of money, but they did supposedly just kill three police officers. So there's that. The second thing they did was maybe a little more what you'd expect from government officials. They passed something called the Felons Apprehension Act, which basically said that if someone
Starting point is 01:05:17 found the Kelly Gang or someone that was suspected to have been working with the Kelly Gang, they could kill them on the spot with no consequences. Ah, imperial law. Love to hear it. Yeah. The other thing that the Felon's Apprehension Act did was they made it a crime to aid the Kelly Gang in any way, shape, or form. And if you were have found to have given them aid,
Starting point is 01:05:47 or were offering them aid, or anything along those lines, you could be arrested and imprisoned with or without hard labor for a time not exceeding 15 years. Oh, well, thank God. We don't want them to be there for too long. I know, right? And I guess I should specifically say the Felons Apprehension Act was directed at quote-unquote outlaws. It's not like it was like, oh, this is specifically for the Kelly gang, only Kelly gang. it was aimed at just outlaws in general, but the Kelly Gang are outlaws, so it applies to them too. But it was like this big sweeping deal to try and bleed the Bush Rangers and criminals dry of any sympathizers that might think it was a good idea to help them. Though, this didn't really have the effect that government was hoping for, because if anything, it made people want to rally and support Ned Kelly even more.
Starting point is 01:06:46 like it opened a lot of people's eyes to just how corrupt the police could be and almost added more fuel to the folklore fire that was Ned Kelly because this was the man fighting the tyranny of the corrupt police and the government like the police are going around rounding people up and imprisoning them with no evidence they're just like oh we we know that you were once friends with Ned Kelly we think you might be helping Ned Kelly, so we're just going to put you in jail. We're just going to lock you up with no proof. And just whatever. So, didn't really help much. And to further the idea that the police were just wildly abusing their power, Ned Kelly would prepare this 53-page letter. And it's called the Gerald Derry letter.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And in this letter, Ned Kelly basically tries to like, justify his life up until this point. And this is like the letter where we get Ned's side of the story for the police murders at Stringy Bart Creek. That's how we know what he was thinking and, you know, his side of the story. He also says that he had received information that the police had been gloating, that they were like, yo, we're not even going to give this guy a chance. Like, we're not going to give him a chance to surrender. when we see him
Starting point is 01:08:15 we're just to start shooting we're just gonna start blasting no way so the letter is where we got all of our Ned's side of the story stuff from earlier yes yes yes yes yes I feel like if he was like a bush ranger and all that kind of stuff he would kind of lean more into the like yeah I'm someone to be feared
Starting point is 01:08:34 kind of kind of thing and not try to justify his actions well maybe but he's also an outlaw so I don't know yeah I guess I guess it depends. To me, it adds more credence to the fact that his story might be more true because I feel like he would just do more of like a, yeah, you better watch out for me kind of thing instead.
Starting point is 01:08:56 True, true. He also mentions that the police look like they were way too heavily armed to just peacefully arrest him. But as not to ramble on about it for too long because it's a 53-page letter. it's basically a letter saying that the reason he took to bush ranging and the outlaw life is because of the abuse and the harassment that he and his family suffered at the hands of the police and that such abuse basically it forced his hand. He had to become a renegade. He had to become an outlaw. And there's this one line that I have to share. I have to quote because it is probably one of the most brutal.
Starting point is 01:09:41 savage ways to describe the Victorian police ever. He says that the Victorian police are, I quote, a parcel of big, ugly, fat-necked, wombat-headed, big-bellied, magpie-legged, narrow-hips, splaw-footed sons of Irish bailiffs or English landlords. Okay. There is a video of low-tier God. complaining about
Starting point is 01:10:13 about Boogie 2988 and and it is the double whammy it just starts off with him being like I'm trying to look for a workout video and this lard eating salad dodging
Starting point is 01:10:28 part bus planet a Kirby looking son of a bitch like just it's like a string Dr. Robotnik looking
Starting point is 01:10:40 planets. It just goes on and on. And this sounds exactly like this letter. Yes, it's very close to the way he thought of the Victorian police. What's that, what's that gif of that guy writing with the quill and like the fire is burning the paper? Oh, I don't think I've seen that one, but it, he's writing the straight fire. He's right, he's writing bars. He's writing bars. And the reason it's called the gerry.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Derry letter is because they were raiding a town called Gerald Derry when they took over and robbed the bank, and he would demand that a bank accountant named Edwin Living make sure that this letter he had written, you make sure it gets published, and you make sure the public sees it. And if it doesn't get printed, boy, next time I see you, I'm going to, it better be printed. And somewhat surprisingly, Edwin didn't do that. Instead, he just got the hell out of Dodge and reported everything that happened to the police and turned over the letter to them, which they obviously did not want published. Several copies of it were made, and somehow a basic summary of the letter was actually published shortly after, but the entirety of the Gerald Derry letter wasn't published until like the 1930s. So things are getting a little crazy with Ned Kelly and his gang.
Starting point is 01:12:10 They seem to be just nigh unstoppable. And public opinion really high on them actually. There are Kelly sympathizers everywhere that are constantly aiding them, helping them. They want to make sure that the Kelly gang thwarts the oppressive authorities. It's even gotten to the point where the total reward for their capture, dead or alive, was up to 8,000 pounds. That's over a million dollars by today's standard. You know, like me and Shai said already, you know, we turn you in.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Wow. Well, a million dollars is a lot of money, though. Yeah, that is a lot. I would turn either one of you in for over a million dollars. 100%. Yeah, yeah. I would judge you as a friend if you wouldn't turn me in for a million dollars. Yeah, anyway.
Starting point is 01:13:02 You'd believe we're lying. It's like then we'd be lying to you. Yep. Yep. Police would actually start to attempt to use these sympathizers against the Kelly Gang. Specifically, they'd start to like keep a lookout on the areas that their relatives and that their friends hung out in. Like specifically, they were using, so one of the Kelly Gang members is named Joe Byrne, and the police were keeping a heavy eye on Joe Burns' mother's home. More specifically, they were using his neighbor's house as sort of like this lookout point, you know, sort of a base of operations. Which was even crazier because Byrne's neighbor, a man named Aaron Sherritt, was a man that used to run with the Greta mob.
Starting point is 01:13:50 And he was like a lifelong friend of Joe Byrne. But to police, well, they were paying him. And he was like, yeah, sure, use my house. I'll give you whatever information I can on the Kelly Gang. He was being a stool pigeon He was snitching out his friends Wait, what is a stool pigeon? It's a stool pigeon, you know
Starting point is 01:14:10 He's a stool pigeon is a stoolie You know, the old days He's a stool pigeon is a rat I've never heard a stool What is that phrase? It's gotta be, I think I must have heard it From like old like Maybe like Dick Tracy era detective
Starting point is 01:14:25 Films Hey, he's a stool pigeon He's chirping like a stool pigeon. I think, right? Yeah, Ricky. You eat from the streets like D.K. and I, Ricky. God damn, yeah, those Hawaiian-ass streets. The mean streets of Hawaii, Kai, baby.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I mean, he's not wrong. I'm born and bred O.C. I am the farthest from the streets. But naturally, nobody took this news very well because pretty much everybody that, knew Aaron Sherritt was like, dude, you're going to get yourself killed doing that.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Like, you're trying to rat out the Kelly gang? Are you crazy? Everybody loves them. What is wrong with you? And even with everyone telling Aaron Sherritt that he needed to stop working with the police, stop giving them information, get out of here as soon
Starting point is 01:15:22 as you can, he kept taking the police's money and he kept working with the police. Now, there is some debate as to if Sherritt was actually giving the police, like, accurate information. A lot of people were thinking that he was, like, you know, sort of a double agent, you know, where he was giving them false information, information, so that they could never capture Ned or the Kelly gang. Like, people assume that Aaron Sherat was like, well, I am super screwing the police,
Starting point is 01:15:54 because not only am I taking their money, I am giving them the worst information pot. They can't do anything with this. So whatever. This is, you know, this is win-win for me. And if I'm not mistaken, the police were also ridiculously skeptical of the information they were getting from Aaron Sherritt. But they didn't care. If they were getting fake news, it doesn't matter because everybody knew that Aaron Sherritt was in bed with them. So even if his information was just a bunch of baloney, at some point the Kelly gang was going to share.
Starting point is 01:16:29 up at their doorstep because boy we need to shut Sherritt up now. And they were kind of right. Because the Kelly Gang did decide that they were going to kill Aaron Sherritt, but they decided to do it as part of a much larger sort of chaotic plan. Like make it big and chaotic to show that they're not, they weren't the ones? No, this plan involved everybody knowing full damn well That the Kelly gang mercilessly killed Sherritt in cold blood Okay, well this doesn't vote as well for his original letter
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yeah, not so much So they figured they would kill Sherritt basically right in front of the police's nose and make absolutely no mistake about it being them. And the way they saw it going was after hearing, you know, after hearing about their just cold, blooded murder, the police would have to send in just this large force of police officers. Specifically, they'd have to send in this like special police train full of officers to deal with the problem.
Starting point is 01:17:58 And that train would have to make a pit stop in a place called Banala to add even more police presence and force. The Kelly gang, knowing this would be the response, would get ahead of this special sort of police train in a place called Glenn Rowan. And they would damage the railroad tracks, and this train would derail and crash. They could then easily loot the train, kill anyone who survived the crash,
Starting point is 01:18:29 then they could continue to Banalla where they would have no police presence. All the police from Banala would be, or at least a majority of the police, would be dead or injured on the train. They were going to go to Banala and just raise hell. Like they wanted to free every prisoner that was there. They wanted to rob the banks, ravage the police, and burn down the courthouses. They wanted to go full bloody corn on Banalla.
Starting point is 01:19:01 But first, they needed to kill Aaron Sherritt. So there are four police officers in the house with Sherrott. Because everybody knows that at some point someone will go and try something. So Sherritt needs protection. So Kelly Gang needs to be a little careful because one wrong move and, whoops, four police officers just gunned your ass down. So, they kidnapped one of Sherrett's neighbors, another just lifelong friend. He's known Sherrett his whole life.
Starting point is 01:19:34 He's a man named Anton Wick. And they forced Anton Wick to knock at the back door and sort of call out to share it. Like, hey, buddy, it's your old pal Anton. And I'm a little lost. I need some help. I need some direction. Could you, uh, could you help me out? And Sherritt recognizes the voice.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And he was like, oh, that's my good buddy Anton. That's Anton. Hey, hey, police, don't worry. That's a friend. I've known it my whole life. Don't even worry about it. So, Sherritt goes to the door by himself, and he opens the door. And as soon as Aaron Sherritt opens that door, Joe Byrne pops out of the bushes and proceeds to shoot Sherritt in the neck and stomach with a shotgun.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Wow. They did the classic That's twice not they done to come to the door type thing. Yeah. There's no kill like overkill. Like you got a shotgun. I think the next shot was enough. But hey, let's blast him in the stomach too
Starting point is 01:20:37 because, you know, double tap, right? That's the first rule of the zombie apocalypse. Hey, you know, the first shot could have been in the stomach and the second in the neck. You know, you never know. True, true, true, true. But the police that are actually in the home are taken totally by surprise.
Starting point is 01:20:53 and so instead of trying to like force a gunfight or something, they all just kind of huddle up and hide in a bedroom with Aaron Sherrits, I think his wife. And they just kind of wait for the Kelly gang to leave. And the Kelly gang actually stayed outside the house, just kind of shouting and hollering at the police. They're like threatening to burn the house down if they don't come out and just being like really loud and just like,
Starting point is 01:21:18 we're going to get you. And after about two hours, the Kelly gang finally. leaves and they let Anton go completely unharmed. And so now they make their way to Glenn Rowan. They're ahead of the police. They're going to Glenn Rowan. The police in the house, however, they stayed there until the next morning because they
Starting point is 01:21:39 weren't sure. They're like, well, the Kelligan could still be out there. Sympathizers are everywhere. I don't know. Maybe they even hired some outlaw mercenaries to just sit and wait for us so they can ambush us. So they are there throughout the night and until the next morning. And for anybody that's wondering, like a timetable, this is June 26, 1880.
Starting point is 01:22:00 So, Kelly Gang has quite the head start on the police and are in Glenn Rowan now attempting to sabotage the railroad tracks enough to derail a police train. I think it was specifically Ned and Steve Hart that were trying to, like, I don't know how I imagine this, but they were trying to, like, damage the railroad tracks themselves. and I just imagine them trying to like take a little hammer to the railroad tracks and be like, damn it! Just not like any kind of explosives. You just think they were like, like, eh, eat, eat, yeah, because they couldn't do it. Like, they were trying to damage these tracks, and they couldn't do it. So it's not, they weren't using explosives or anything. I imagine they were just like, well, let's get a big hammer and, and they couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:22:48 D.K. does not have particularly good feelings on the Kelly gang, and they're, and their ability to break the stuff. Well, they literally had to force and kidnap a bunch of plate layers in the area to come and do it for them. So I don't know what I imagine they tried to do. But yeah, at gunpoint, they made a bunch of plate layers do it for them. And naturally, they picked like this deep curved section of the railroad. Because if you're going at normal speed on a train and you take the curve and there's no tracks, fom, you're going to roll like a law.
Starting point is 01:23:22 There was one other key preparation that they had to make. It was sort of their ace in the hole. And I was going to not tell you about what it was until they actually used it. But Shai's already kind of showed you the infamous picture of him in the armor. So they do actually fashion. It is the most iconic part. It would be kind of hard to hold that off until now, I guess. But yeah, so they actually fashion this armor out of old plow blades.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Old blades that are used for like those big plow machines in the farms. Oh, that's what they use for it. Okay. Yep, yep, yep. And they fashion the helmet, the chest plate. There's some, I think there's also some on the arms. There's a little bit of a skirt on it too. And this armor actually weighs like a hundred pounds.
Starting point is 01:24:17 It is hefty armor. That is big, hefty, hefty armor. But anyway, I'll talk more about it in a little bit. Anyway, so Ned Kelly and his gang are waiting in Glen Rowan. And basically, they take almost the entire town hostage. Like, they go door to door at gunpoint and ferry almost all of the townsfolk into the Glen Rowan Inn where they will hopefully remain until the police train is derailed.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Okay, a little, you know, Mr. Kelly has got, has, you can say gone off the rails a little bit. I guess he's off track a little bit. Oh, all right. But the train never came that morning of June 26. seventh. But they were like, you know, okay, fine, they were a little, they were a little off schedule, whatever, but at some point today or in the afternoon, that train's going to show up. But by the afternoon, the train was still nowhere to be seen. So for the whole day, Ned and the Kelly gang kept watch over some like 60 odd prisoners at the Glen Rowan Inn, and still,
Starting point is 01:25:43 no special police train. Several sources in documentary state, at this point, you know, it would have been prudent for the Kelly gang to just be like, you know what, this didn't go the way we planned, let's just go back to one of our hidden bases, plan something else, and just, you know, this isn't worth it anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Cut the losses. Yeah, cut your losses, live to fight another day. But they didn't. They stayed at the Glen Rowan Inn and were actually, they started treating the prisoners pretty well. Like, there were reports that at the Glen Rowan Inn, everybody
Starting point is 01:26:18 was dancing, singing, drinking, they were playing card games, and it kind of devolved into a party. And if you're wondering why the train was so late, it's apparently because the murder of Sherritt
Starting point is 01:26:34 hadn't been reported for like way longer than anybody initially thought several more hours. And I'm not sure if that's because the police who were the eyewitnesses stayed hidden until the next morning, since they were afraid of the Kelly gang
Starting point is 01:26:50 or if it was just general ineptitude or I don't know, maybe a little of both. But word of the murder wasn't reported until much, much later than what the Kelly gang assumed. So now we are on the 27th. And, you know, Ned is just like, all right, I'm going to let some of the hostages go.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Like, I think around 20 or so of the hostages. And they were hostages that Ned had become, I'm friendly with. They've been drinking. They've been partying. Bro, I can trust you guys. You're not going to do anything stupid. You know, we're really the good guys here, so it is what it is. And so that night rolls around, and there's still no train. There's still no damn train. And Ned still has some hostages, and he's like, you know what? All right. There's this hostage. His name is Thomas Kernow. And he had earlier helped Ned, earlier in the day. He was, he helped Ned capture the Glenn Rowan constable,
Starting point is 01:27:51 who was still kind of roaming around trying to thwart Ned. And Ed was like, you know what? If you help me capture the constable, bro, I can trust you. I can 100% trust you. So Ned's like, all right, look, Thomas, you go home with your wife, get a good night's sleep, come back in the morning, but, you know, just be quiet. Like, I don't even want you to dream too loud.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Like he specifically is like, be quiet, don't dream too loud, because your house is kind of near those train tracks. Little did Ned realize that this whole time Thomas was playing him for a fool Slowly gaining his trust little by little So he could be afforded the chance he had now And instead of going home and going to sleep
Starting point is 01:28:35 Thomas got himself a lantern and a red scarf That he could use to wave down the police train And warn them of the Kelly Gang's plan And that is just what he did Oh, he's got the pigeon on the stand. He's the stool pigeon. Stool pigeon. That's right, thank you.
Starting point is 01:28:55 He's got the stool pigeon. Fidget on the stands. He's the pigeon on the seat. Sure, man. You got it. You know just how, yeah, you got that phrase on lockdown, dude. I know how it be. I'm so proud of you.
Starting point is 01:29:15 On the early morning of July 28th, Thomas did indeed find the broken and beaten up parts of the tracks, went ahead of it, waited for the police train, and did signal it down because it was now finally on its way to Glenn Rowan. He warned the police of what was waiting for them, and then the tracks ahead were broken. And after that,
Starting point is 01:29:39 I've heard two different scenarios on what happened next. It seems like, I don't know, some sources say the train proceeded on the tracks, but they did it really slowly and really carefully and were able to still cross the broken tracks and pull into the Glen Rowan station and then the constable told them what was happening because he escaped
Starting point is 01:30:01 and then they would just sort of go in and surround the Glen Rowan in. Other sources say that once the train stopped all of the officers on board got off the train and then made their way into Glenn Rowan on foot, Constable fills them in on the details and oh, let's surround Glenn Rowan.
Starting point is 01:30:21 I would imagine there's no way that a train is going to be like, oh yeah, let's just very cautiously go over broken tracks. I kind of side with the, okay, let's all just get off the train and walk into Glenn Rowan idea. I don't know how you feel about it,
Starting point is 01:30:37 but I don't know. I just don't see a train being like, oh yeah, tracks are broken. Let's just carefully go over them. Yeah, no, absolutely not. As far as I'm concerned, it's like, oh, yeah, there's a slight chip in a helicopter blade
Starting point is 01:30:48 will be fine, like, no, any tiny little bit of that stuff, it's like, no, all right, shut it down. But regardless, realizing that their plan had backfired and that they were now surrounded, the Kelly gang donned their ace in the hole.
Starting point is 01:31:03 They put on their armor, and they were prepared to meet their surroundings. This is straight up, just a video game level. This is like, This is like the final fight of a game where everyone puts on their damn hyper-ar. You didn't play Mono Warfare, but the last mission of the original MW3, you just put on giant-ass armor and storm a hotel. And it's got the same gusto to it.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Yep. And the reason, well, it's true. That is what it is historically known as. But he doesn't know that yet, although it's pretty obvious. But anyway, but what I wanted to say about the armor was the reason Ned Kelly specifically made this armor or had the idea for it is because, like, he had been in so many shootouts. And there were so many times where he felt that, like, police officers were just, like, shooting him on site that he was like, look, with all these shootouts, I'm going to need better protection. Like, I can't, I'm not the bullet dodger, avie. So, you know, he needs, he needs the protection.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Back up, back up. I need to appreciate the snatch reference. I love that film. I absolutely love that film. I haven't seen it in so long, but I was in my, he dodges bullets, have he? Because he dodges bullets. He says it very, very frighteningly. Yeah. But so, yeah, that's why he felt like he needed to make the armor, because it's just so many damn shootouts. Like, I need, I need this. So with their trusty suit of armor on, the gunfight began between this mess. Massive police force and the Kelly Gang at the Glen Rowan Inn in the glow of the moonlight. It's also worth noting that you've got to remember what kind of state the Kelly Gang are in at this point. They are sleep deprived, they're drunk, and they're going to be heaving around 100-pound armor.
Starting point is 01:33:04 It is an uphill battle to say the least, and there's only four of them. So at some point when the fighting was maybe There was like a lull in the fighting Fighting wasn't quite as The two sides agreed to a minor ceasefire Just so that the women and children hostages Were allowed to escape to safety Back when people would do that stuff
Starting point is 01:33:29 Yeah I know The Kelly gang were basically kind of out on the inn Sort of front porch area in their armor Just blasting at the police that were kind of just surrounding the area. And despite having the armor, which actually did quite well at protecting them from like really fatal gunshot wounds,
Starting point is 01:33:48 it still wasn't completely invincible. Like Ned still suffered wounds to his, I think it was his right elbow and his right foot. Joe Byrne actually had been killed. He was fatally shot through the groin and then just bled to death. While he was making a final toast to the gang at the bar.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Looking at the armor, there wasn't much protection in the legs and stuff anyway, so. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Most of the hostages had escaped at this point. They kind of were told, hey, lay low and look for your chance to get out. Though there were three civilian casualties that had died in the crossfire with the police. And unfortunately, I think one of them was a 12 or 13-year-old boy, which is unfortunate. Eich. Ouch.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Yeah, yep. And as the fighting got fierce, Ned Kelly was just like, okay, look, it's, it's time for me to get out of here. I'm retreating out the back and, you know, hopefully my boys follow me. And I've seen a couple sources say that he was like, oh, yeah, you know, Dan and Steve are going to follow behind me. Everything's going to be fine. You know, we got to get out of here. I've already lost Joe. I don't want to, you know.
Starting point is 01:35:01 But unfortunately, Dan and Steve never followed him. They actually stayed in the inn and continued to exchange gunfire with the police. And as Ned laid bleeding and exhausted in the brush behind the Glen Rowan in, he knew, I can't just abandon Dan and Steve. They're my boys. One of them's my brother. The other one's my good friend. So using the brush and forest as cover, he had a pistol in each hand, and he manages to actually get behind
Starting point is 01:35:34 the police force line and he starts just opening fire like he just goes in bam bam bam bam and Ned Kelly at this point was a proper terror to the police like no matter how much they shot
Starting point is 01:35:49 in him he wouldn't go down all they hear and in the bright glow of the moonlight the police literally thought he was a monster they thought he was a devil or even like this mythical creature called a bunyip which is apparently like some kind of Australian folklore evil spirit. So the man is literally like deflecting bullets.
Starting point is 01:36:14 They're just like, he can't die. He can't be beaten. Oh my God. Yeah, because all they hear is the ping, ping, and he keeps coming at him. He just keeps coming. And he don't stop coming and they don't stop coming. And as mythical and mighty as Ned may have seemed, there was one fatal flaw with the armor that you pointed out when you saw the display of it.
Starting point is 01:36:40 The whole point of the armor when they made it was not only because like, oh yeah, we need more protection, but it was made so that slaughtering the officers on the derail train would be a lot easier. The train would have been tipped over and they were going to approach from like a hill or like an elevated area. and it was going to be an angle where like anybody that was still alive on the train wouldn't be able to shoot their legs or get a shot at their legs anyway. And it would have thrown off their mobility, so it was like, hey, we don't need any leg armor. It'll be fine. It's better this way. And a man named Sergeant Arthur Steele realized this and fired his shotgun twice into Ned's unprotected legs,
Starting point is 01:37:25 instantly downing him where he fell onto like this large cut down tree trunk Ah and then getting shot in like the quad I'm assuming and really kind of Yeah That's that that'll be
Starting point is 01:37:38 That's already really bad now But back then that's That's really bad Yeah And before any of the other officers Could fire a killing blow It would be that constable That had been taken hostage earlier
Starting point is 01:37:52 The one that Thomas Kernho had gotten so many trust points for helping capture. Like I said, he had managed to escape, and he would tell all the other officers, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold your fire. Don't kill him. We're taking him in alive. We're taking this guy in alive.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And as a quick little side note, remember that green sash that Ned received for saving the young boy near the beginning of the episode? Yeah. When I said he cherished that for the rest of his life, I was not kidding. He was literally wearing that same sash under his armor. Oh, this is like a, this is like a, like a, like a, the hero's journey stories through and through, isn't it? Mm-hmm. And not only was that sash recovered, but it is still, to this day, on display at the Banala Pioneer and Costume Museum for any and all to see.
Starting point is 01:38:50 The man, the man saved a kid from drowning and, and, and war in his vows. last stand in a police shootout. It's so, that's so baller. Yep, yep, and there it is. It's obviously a little worse for wear now because, you know, it's spent like a hundred and some odd years. But it is still on display and anybody can go see it. So, with all the hostages now free from the inn and the body of burn recovered, Dan and Steve still just, they refused to give themselves up.
Starting point is 01:39:20 And so the police, they set. fire to the Glen Rowan Inn. And it's unsure of how exactly Dan and Steve died, because nobody's sure whether they took their own lives or if the fire got them. But their remains, their charred remains, weren't recovered until the inn finally burned to the ground. Ned's wounds, some 28 different wounds, were treated at the railroad station before he was transported to Banalla,
Starting point is 01:39:54 with the body of Joe Byrne. Well, shit. Yeah. And in a rather morbid display, the police tied up the body of Joe Byrne to a door at the banalya police station to be photographed by the press. And historically, this would be the first press photo shoot in Australian history. What an asshole photo shoot. Yeah. I just, I imagine that they thought they were like, oh, yeah, look what happens when you cross the police.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Oh, look what happens when you lead a life of bush ranging and thievery and horse theft and murdering police officers. This is what you have to look forward to. I imagine that's what they thought they were going to do. And also, I believe they never turned the body of Joe Byrne over because they were a full. They didn't give it back to the family? No, they didn't, because they were afraid that a funeral would be too much of a rallying cry for Kelly Gang sympathizers or Bush Rangers. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:41:06 So I think they, I think he's in an unmarked grave. Oh, God, all right. The police, no wonder this is considered, this guy is considered like an urban legend and stuff like that. Well, that's Joe Burns. Yeah. No, no, I know that, but like, no wonder. general story of Kelly is like this because the police suck in this. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:29 The police are awful. They're corrupt. They're being bribed by the squatogic. Yeah, it's not good. Ned's infamous armor was also recovered and is currently on display at the State Library of Victoria in Melbourne. Like you can legit go inside and it's in like this big glass display case that you saw where you can see all of the tents from the bullets that struck the.
Starting point is 01:41:52 armor, which if you look at the helmet, there's a lot of dense in that thing. Like, that armor saved his ass. Like, look at all the headshots that that saved him from. Yeah, he got hit a lot. Yeah, he got, sheesh. But Ned Kelly would be taken to the Supreme Court in Melbourne to stand trial for his crimes after his wounds were treated and he recovered in the jail hospital in Banala. And the trial would be kind of a sham, because the judge that oversaw the trial was actually the same judge who sentenced his mother to three years in prison with hard labor a while back. A man named Sir Redmond Barry. And of course, G. Wiz, the judge was a corrupt pile of shit. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Granted, it doesn't surprise me that Ned would have gone time regardless. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Ned's barrister was also a fairly new barrister that didn't have a lot of experience and really couldn't defend Ned for anything. It was bad. He was new. He was green.
Starting point is 01:43:09 And it was just, it was such a sham. And the only real witness they had against him was McIntyre, the one officer that survived the encounter with the Kelly gang. at Stringy Bart Creek. So McIntyre gives this damning testimony against Ned for being a cold-blooded killer, and everybody's sure that McIntyre is just lying through his teeth.
Starting point is 01:43:33 But I mean, anybody that would have defended Ned is you know, dead at Glenn Rowan. So yeah, so Ned Kelly is sentenced to death by hanging, and on November 11th, Ned would indeed
Starting point is 01:43:48 be hanged until he was dead with his final words being such as life. But... Okay. I was, damn it, I was kind of hoping it would be like each shit or something like that. But I, I would prefer to leave you with this line from Ned Kelly, this other line from Ned Kelly instead.
Starting point is 01:44:07 It was after, uh, so Ned Kelly was being sentenced by Redmond Barry. And he was like, you, I sentence you to death and may God have mercy on your soul. To which Ned responded, I will go a little further than that and say, I will see you there where I go. So he basically said, I'll see you in hell. I'll see you in hell, you corrupt pile of shit. I'll see you in hell.
Starting point is 01:44:35 And I believe after he was executed, his remains were just put in like a mass grave for people that got executed. And it wasn't until much later that somehow they actually found his remains in this like mass grave and they were like well i guess these are ned kelly's bones and i think they actually did get returned to his heirs so ned kelly's remains actually got back to his bloodline oh how okay well that's good better than than the other guy yeah poor joe burn and that is uh you know oh that's right um so sir redmond berry uh uh uh uh you know so sir redmond berry uh
Starting point is 01:45:19 He actually died of natural causes. I think it was like 11 days after sentencing Ned Kelly. So I think Ned Kelly out-survived the judge that sentenced him. Well, he must have gone away with a smug face, be like, see you in hell indeed. Indeed. And Redmond Bear is like, well, I'll save you a seed, my friend. So, yeah, that's what I've got on Ned Kelly. A little bit of a long one, but man, he was a badass.
Starting point is 01:45:54 I see why people like him. He was certainly a... Wait, I just realized that the image that Sigh post is basically the soy jack and Chad meme. But like, look at the face of the constable. He's so wiry. He really is. And that, God, those helmets, the way they wear them, I guess it's because that constable has no chin. But he just looks so ridiculous with it, like, cutting into his mouth.
Starting point is 01:46:19 mustache. It's just like, bra. That's really funny, though. Yep, but that's, that's Ned Kelly. It was, it was a long one. It was a doozy, but like, there's so many details that you can't just gloss over with Ned Kelly, like, to really understand, like, why that final shootout was like such a big deal. It's like, well, you kind of have to have all this other stuff. And so, yeah. It's kind of neat, too, because it's, it's basically feels like a hero's journey story, but it's about like an Australian outlaw
Starting point is 01:46:52 Fighting the man Yeah yeah because obviously we got a whole lot of other like crazier You know like fiction writing But for what for what he did in like the real world is actually pretty goddamn crazy Yeah So the only thing is a lot of people like well like How accurate are these stories? How much have they been embellished and like Was he really just a common thief?
Starting point is 01:47:19 and it got embellished as a man fighting the power, or was he actually like this big legend that was larger than life and fighting the good fight? That's where a lot of people are like, well, which, how, how much do we straddle this line, right? Right. So, yeah, that's the only debate about, to me, he sounds like an absolute Chad.
Starting point is 01:47:40 He sounds like a badass. To me, he sounds like a pretty cool guy. The more and more I learn about the police, the more I'm like, I'm on Kelly's side. And as you can imagine, all of these areas, like this around Stringy Bark Creek, around Glen Rowan, huge tourist attraction in Australia now. Huge. Like there are statues of him.
Starting point is 01:48:02 The spot where he got shot down has a big plaque on it. They rebuilt a Glenn Rowan station so you could see where his injuries were attended. It is huge. That area is rife with it. tourism for anything Ned Kelly related. There's even a whiskey called, it's an Australian Reserve whiskey that's called Ned's Green Sash. Oh, that's good. I really also, I enjoy the, I enjoy the humor also, because if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Australia a prison, prison, a British prison colony, basically.
Starting point is 01:48:45 I don't know. those lines. I believe it. I thought it was something like that. Like it started off that way. Kind of like the like the Terrans and Starcraft and then it became more. Another StarCraft reference. The StarCraft reference. How do you keep getting these things in there?
Starting point is 01:49:01 But like it makes in a sense, it would make even more sense why the group would appreciate Ned as opposed to the cops. Oh, for sure. I looked upon Ned Kelly as an extraordinary man. There's no man in the world like him. He is superhuman, said Aaron. who sold out Ned Kelly and got killed by his gang. That's that, yep.
Starting point is 01:49:23 But yeah. Oh, man, this almost went two hours. Jesus Christ. I'm glad I got it under two hours because that was 12 pages of script. Sheesh! Sheesh! Take us home. I won't be talking for the rest of the day.
Starting point is 01:49:39 My voice is worn out. Yes, sir. All right. To all of our fans and especially to our Aussies out there, Thank you very much for watching. I hope you enjoyed D.K.'s great retelling of the infamous, famous, Ned Kelly. One of them.
Starting point is 01:50:01 One of them, yeah, yeah. All right, and, uh, wait, I leave you with this message. Reach out for the officer's gun.

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