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Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast.
My name is D.K. Diamantis.
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He's back from having all of the illness.
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Poster speaking of which Prickey we have a new poster would you like to see oh no a new new one
yeah I've got a preview image for you that is just I think it is peak so wait I'm sorry
you say preview image like it's not done yet or oh it's it's it's done oh check
this out my guy look at that all right this
is not as bad as I thought it would be. Yes, it is it is lady skull crusher a very very toned
corn, I guess that's technically a demonette because it's a female demon right and she
incorrect. A demonet is a slanesh. Yeah but like a female demon would be a demonet because it's,
I don't know how to that. It would be a blood, it would be a blood um letter technically. Oh okay.
Well, it's a blood letter and that. I, you know,
letter. I barely knew her.
Ha! And Shai went
with Lady Skull Crusher for the title
because she didn't want to go with my initial
take of Crush Me Mommy
Uwu. So,
it's called Lady Skull Crusher.
All right. That, champ, that's really interesting.
Next time, keep it to yourself.
I mean, I thought that was
a pretty good title, but Shai was like, no,
it's not exactly, whatever.
Well, also, a skull crusher
is actually a unit that
you can field on the game.
Well, okay, actually, I think it's called skull.
I was just going with the fact that she was crushing a skull and its corn.
Yeah, blood crushers.
Blood crushers are actually a unit that you can use.
I believe it's like, it's like a demon on like a big dog thing.
It's fine.
This is so much better than I thought it would be.
I'm on board with this one.
Hell yeah.
I was, I was so worried.
I was so worried.
I was, I was terrified.
Oh, dear.
But no, it's, it's perfect.
It's lovely.
You know what
Abbs and those thighs
We'll get it
We'll get it on the merch store
Post haste
Hell yeah
Let's go
We'll get it on there immediately
Hey Bricky you said you get it on the merch store
Where could our lovely viewers buy said merch if they wanted to?
What an excellent thing
Well you can buy our merch at orchidate.com
That we actually have a new Twitter account for as well
If you want to keep up to date with all the new stuff
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And yes, you can get that.
You can get the snakey snake fulgram poster as well.
And our brand new adeptus ridiculous flag
that many of our fans have been hanging up on the wall.
That flag looks so cool.
Oh, my God.
That turned out so good.
I've seen a couple pictures of it.
Oh, it looks great.
It's a fun time.
I've been liking people seeing it.
And now we have.
A giant skull-crushing abbed-up Buba corn deal.
All's good.
Oh, she's good.
Look at those, those abs, those side.
Look, those clods.
Yeah, and you've even got some classy underboob.
Hell yeah, classy.
Wonderful.
Book club should be soon, right?
We've got Bellasar's call, the great work.
Should be soon-ish?
Yes, soon-ish.
Honestly, just it'll come out when it comes.
out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've had some
setbacks that were unforeseen.
So it's, it's, we haven't forgotten.
We'll do it. We'll do it.
So, uh, I, I'm back.
Yay. Welcome back.
Thank you. I, um, so I
originally had all my issues, my throat and then COVID.
I think COVID is being like the great equalizer
because my throat got better because of COVID.
And I think it may just
killed whatever was messing with my throats.
I mean, could be, sure.
Like, this town's not big enough for the two of us,
so I don't think I have to worry about my tonsils anymore.
I mean, that's, well, you're missing out on getting all that ice cream, though.
Oh, because of the...
Yeah, once you get your tonsils taken out,
you just have a steady diet of ice cream.
I probably wouldn't.
I probably have to eat, like, green jamba juice or something.
But in this beginning of this episode,
So, you know, Shy isn't here right now.
She's got some real life stuff.
So that means she's under the will of me.
All right, D.K., let's talk about female space.
Let's talk about the actual thing we're going to talk about today.
Phoenix Lords, right?
I know, don't have to quote me.
It's Phoenix Lords, isn't it?
This time, I got it.
This time, I know.
This time, this is, no fake news here, I hope.
Did you switch it up on me again?
No, no, it's Phoenix Lord.
I was really worried that all of that bolster was going to get shot down immediately,
and you were going to be like, no, the Angron book, idiot.
And I was like, no.
Anywho.
So yes, Phoenix Lords today, which is basically going to be like three to four Phoenix Lords,
and then the rest, like, small excerpts.
And that's basically what it's going to be, because really the lore for the Phoenix Lords comes down to mainly
two of them and then some nice spatterings in the rest.
All right.
Sounds good.
Sounds good.
As long as we cover Maugin Ra, I'll be completely satisfied.
Okay, we will cover Malgan Ra.
You might not be as happy with the amount of lore Malgan Ra has, but it's fine.
So, Phoenix Lords, we did talk about the wonderful world of the aspect warriors and the
Aspect Warrior shrines in the past.
To reiterate that, it is the classic case of,
All right, there is a shrine, and it's a temple,
and the temples are dedicated to the various paths of the warrior,
and said paths of the warrior have the troops in them,
like howling banshees and stuff,
and they have exarchs, which are the leaders,
and then they have the Phoenix Lord, which is the founder,
and the leader leader leader, the ultimate leader,
the CEO of death.
as they say.
That is an aspect of these warriors that we covered.
So, the main one, if we're going to talk Phoenix Lords,
we're really going to talk mainly about one guy.
Not mainly, but like he's kind of the guy.
And that's Aserman.
Azerman is the guy.
He is the guy.
Yeah, we covered him in the Aspect Warriors episode a little bit, right?
He had the, oh, shoot, what did he have?
He had really distinct armor.
He had the big yin and yang on the center.
Yeah, I was about to say, did you have the big yin yin and yang?
Okay, gotcha.
Now I remember what he looks like.
And the big flag on his back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the samurai flag.
Yeah, yeah.
So Azerman is the guy.
His name originally was, oh, Eldar names.
Eliathan?
Yeah, sure, that sounds good.
That sounds close.
I'm trying.
Yeah.
So these, Azurman is one of the first.
few people that are still alive, I guess you could call that still alive, because they're like this weird gistalt consciousness of armor, you know, so like whether you'd really call it like alive is undetermined.
So his consciousness is like in the, is that one of those things where if you wear the armor, you kind of sort of become one with the founder?
Right.
So Aspect Warriors are basically that.
Yeah.
The Aspect Warriors are basically a hollowed out piece of armor that you kind of, like the souls of the prior exarchs and Aspect Warriors that kind of inhabited the armor kind of take your soul and you become the next one.
So it's like you're always Azurman, but there have been like 20 Azurmans in a sense.
But you're always Azerman or Jane Zah, Bahra, etc.
So the armor's kind of like
their pseudo-soul stone. Not really,
but kind of sort of.
I mean, kind of sort of, yeah.
It's a bunch.
I believe the armor is kind of
thousand sunsy where there's like
not something in there
and it's just like armor
that is just being animated
by the souls.
I don't remember if that's entirely true
because in the Night Lord's book
did Jane Tsar, like was she like
bleeding and fleshy?
I don't remember.
Or was she just blown up?
I don't remember.
if that was the case or not.
I mean, I do remember her being
blown up, but it's
been so long since I've read that. I feel
like she was, like, bleeding
and fleshy, and she did
get stomped,
but I don't...
She did get squished, that is true.
Did get squishy, yeah. I don't remember if it was just, like,
crunch the armor, or, like, crunch
splat.
But, anyway.
So, Azerman,
Azerman, the Phoenix Lord Man.
So Azerman, way back Wem was alive before the fall of the Eldar.
Okay.
So he's an old boy.
He is an old boy.
Even by Eldar standards, he's old.
Yeah, like Phoenix Lords are basically immortal anyway, because they're weird gestalt suits of armor.
Yeah.
But, yeah, he, Azerman started old.
What a boomer.
He's probably the ultra boomer.
Boomer, yes. He is as boomer as they come.
It's like if a civil war
person was alive today.
Okay, boomer said to the man
who fought for like, well, he could have fought for the south.
It's true.
Ooh.
Okay, well, the Azurman did not fight for the south.
Okay, cool, cool.
Now, they're back then...
Slanesh fought for the south.
Slanesh fought, yeah, Slenish has a giant Confederate flag.
That's why we hate her.
Or him, it, whatever.
No.
So he lived generally a pretty uneventful life.
It was uneventful and rather boring.
Oh.
Azerman's life was pretty just whatever.
Okay.
And before the fall, there were all those Eldar exodites that kept on yelling out those prophecies of doom for the Eldar Empire.
And we got to get out of here.
They were the elder that rode dinosaurs and stuff, the old anxiety people.
Now, Azerman also known as Eardtian,
I had a brother named Tethysus.
It's literally a thesis, but with a TEE in front of it,
so I'm going to call him Tethesis.
Okay, Thetheus, sure.
The thesis.
He had originally desired to join the Exeites as well
in their little exile from the empire of the Eldar.
But, you know, his little more skeptical sibling,
aka Azzarman, refused to leave the planet.
Once, if all the Eldar happened,
Slanesh birthed and everything.
Both of them survived the major calamity.
I don't know really how, but they did.
They just weren't affected in that area or something.
Fantasy, we need these important people to survive.
So, hey, they did.
They were special.
Yeah, I mean, like, not every single Eldar died in the birth of Slenish,
but it was just like a catastrophic event, you know?
A lot of people did, though.
I imagine the birth of Slenish would be like all-out nuclear war.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We're like, people, some people will live, but like, goddamn, not many.
Yeah, those people that bought those Doomsday bunkers are like, ha!
See? I survived Slanesh.
The government are all Nazis.
Well, yeah, now, but not then.
Not then.
That's a great line.
Anywho, so they eventually had this giant struggle for survival as demons overran their world.
And his brother, Tethys, was possessed by a...
demon,
Azerman forcing to kill him.
Oh,
that's,
that must have sucked.
That's no good.
So eventually Aserman was able to,
or I'm just going to call him Azerman now,
no more of this Elyothan thing.
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
He managed to find this little shelter
at this way old temple
that the demons would not approach
because of the presence of the dying Eldar gods
could still kind of be felt there.
Because Slanesh ate most of the gods,
but,
you know,
there's a little bit there going on.
A little essence left, a little sprinkle of Eldar God still left.
So Aserman lived alone in that temple for many years and fell into a pretty hefty depression.
Shocking.
Yes.
Shocking.
Very surprising.
And at one point contemplated and I believe attempted suicide.
Ooh.
Well, I mean, considering everything that happened, I can't say as I blames him for falling into a, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, you know, take the nuclear war analogy.
All your friends and family have died.
Yeah, and there's no coming back and your home is a wasteland.
And, yeah, that's tough.
So, uh, eventually, though, however, he was swayed against it by this sort of feral Eldar girl named Ferretel.
Ferrethrythel.
Uh, Ferrethrythel.
Uh, ferrethalphal.
Ferreethyl.
Ferrethil.
Ferrethel.
Ferrethel sounds cool.
anyway, so I'd go with fairy ethel.
Ethel, the old, like, old
Ethel. Ethel. She was
knitting. Damn straight.
Kind of swayed him
off of it for a bit.
Originally, he kind of shunned the girl.
She was weird.
But eventually, later down the
line, found the girl actually
being chased by the hedonistic
part of the survivors,
which were now being called
the Drukari.
So,
he ended up
saving her from these Drukari and renamed himself to Azerman after the god,
Al-Dar names, Assyrian, Azrian, Azrian, Azrian. Sure, Azrian, yeah, sure. Asrian.
Azrian is the Phoenix king, or also known as Father of the Eldar, considered the most powerful
of all the Eldar gods and basically the psychic might of the universe. Wow, that's a
that's a good namesake to have.
Definitely, if you're going to rename yourself
after one of the gods, that's
the one.
Azariman, apparently, though, was
eaten by Slanesh, as were
many of the Eldar gods.
With the exception, I believe, of Kane.
Ah.
So, Aserman, I believe, is supposed to be
dead, dead dead, as
many of the gods were destroyed
and killed.
That's unfortunate.
But Azerman
itself,
feels like
or yeah
Azur Min
feels like
Azary yen
Oh boy
this is this is a mouthful
That's that's a
Azurmin
feels like Azir Yin
So as
So they're both A-S-U-R
Azur-A-R-A-R
And he is men
And then there's
Yan
Y-A-N
So one is
Azure men
Him
And then the god is
Azure-Y-N-E-N-H-E-N
them.
Yeah, I know, I know, it's fine.
It's whatever.
He named himself basically.
One is the god.
Yes.
He named himself in the name of the god, of the god basically.
The most powerful god that got eaten by Slanesh.
Yes.
And he took that young girl as a disciple and they left the ruins of the world behind,
gathering a few more like-minded survivors.
And they went and they're his followers, which,
were the young girl,
Fugin, our fireboy,
Baharoth, the winged one,
and Arha,
were all established this brand new world
that they named Azure, ASUR,
because there wasn't enough Azure yet.
Oh, yeah, we got Azurmen,
Azurian, Azure, what's the planet?
What's there?
Azure, Azure.
Just Azure, okay.
Yeah, just the first four letters.
Oh, please tell me they rename their people
to the Azurians.
Oh, you're so close.
With Azure men.
and Azaryin.
You're so close.
They called themselves the Azurya.
Oh, damn it!
I was so close.
So it's literally the god's name, but without the N.
Damn.
The Azuria, the children of Azure.
Oh, man.
They, they, they, did, did GW just run out of original names?
And they were just like, uh, Azirmin, Azirya, Aziryan.
Like, what, what is the, what, is the, what?
What's the deal with this?
Don't forget that the Eldar are also known as the Azaryani, if you remember saying that.
Oh, that's right, the Assyriani.
Which is Azaryin with an eye at the end of it.
What?
Why?
I mean, I guess it's, that's a very important God to them, right?
The super, you know, I get it, but damn.
Come up with a different name.
Yeah, there's just a lot of Azari.
Yeah, it's a lot.
much. That's, boy, this is going to be very confusing. It's, it's, I mean, I'm not going to really
mention much of it anymore, luckily. So it's not too bad, but basically Azurmin, the guy,
the guy, still kind of feels what he does his meditation, the like, the will of Azaryon,
which is either one of two things, because he's very much dead, eaten by Slenesh. So it's, one,
there's a little remnant of him still around,
or two, he just played this like
Uber, like 12D chess game
and kind of set guidelines out
for all of his followers post-Eldar destruction.
I mean,
making sure that you have like
a backup emergency plan
in case the worst of the worst happens.
It's a pretty good idea.
Make sure that your following's
and your teachings always survive, you know, that's, yeah, I buy that.
I buy that for a dollar.
I buy that for a dollar.
I'm an all-powerful Azure, uh, no, what's the god again?
Azur-Jan, whatever.
Oh, you got, the Phoenix guy.
Okay, I wasn't sure if that was the people, the guy, the guy's armor, the planet, or the, uh.
No, no, you got right.
Azure Y'i-ya is the god.
Uh, the people are the Azure Yaw, and the, uh,
Aspect warriors are the Azuriani.
It's so stupid.
It's not great.
No, it's fine.
Anyway, he went and formed this temple.
And these were the first ever Phoenix Lord based temples,
the first ever Aspect Warrior.
Temples and following the path of the warrior to protect them all from the chaos gods at Slanesh,
the great enemy.
Yep, make sure their souls don't get eaten.
And so Azurman runs the Dyer Avengers one, which I've mentioned before, but he also has a special blade.
This blade is known as the, oh, I had it right here, hold on.
It is known as the sword of Azure.
Oh, for God's sakes.
But it actually contains the soul of his once dead brother to allow them to murder the absolute
hell out of all the demons.
That's a very 40K Eldar thing to do.
It's like, oh yeah, yeah, I have the soul of my dead kin,
and now I'm going to use it to strike holy vengeance.
Because their knights, wraiths, whatever, work like that, too,
where you've got to have, like, the soul stone of a dead family member,
brother, siblings, something, something, to pilot it.
And I think that's really kind of messed up, but kind of dope, too.
So that's a very Eldar thing to do, yeah.
I think it's siblings for certain rates, yes.
But yes, his sword is a really, really strong.
I believe it has a similar effect that the sword of the emperor has,
which is like it can permanently kill demons.
Oh, that's important.
They do not come back kind of thing.
Okay.
So it is a very, very strong sword.
And also in game, it hits.
It hits.
Yeah, I would imagine that chaos is very afraid of him.
He's a pretty spooky guy.
Yeah, if you're a chaos demon that's like, oh, yeah, he's the permadeath guy,
and we don't go just screaming back to the void,
if I was chaos, I would give him a very wide berth.
Yes, I would, the fact that you don't get your revive is definitely something pretty nasty.
Yeah. So his sword, the sword of azure, wielded by Azurman, the hand of Azuriani on the planet of Azur and his people Azuria and the temple of Azaryana.
Yes, he's very strong.
Their favorite color is azure. They all wear blue.
Is that, does he, oh, shit, does he wear blue?
Oh, he does wear blue. He does wear blue. He does wear blue. He's clad in Azure.
God damn it.
All right, anywho, moving on.
So there was the second Phoenix Lord.
Jane Zarr.
Ah, our howling banshee wifu.
The storm of silence.
She was at the way back time an orphan
given or sold by her parents
into this place known as the Blood Dances,
which was a pre-
Eldar hedonistic area of the Drucari witchcult arenas, basically.
Oh, no.
Her parents sold her to a Drucari thing called the Blood Dance.
So this is before Drucari existed.
This was just the hedonistic awful Eldar prior to the fall.
That kind of led to the fall.
It's still a really awful place for you to sell a child, though.
Yes.
So she was kind of raised up during the beginning of the fall.
fall.
And she fought there in the, basically the witchcould arenas, basically, because the witch
cults have like gladiatorial pits.
And despite the fall of the Eldar killing, so many people, it still continued to
function just at a very small capacity.
There were very few people there, but she was a top level one.
I believe that she was a, uh, hecatatite blood bride, hecatari blood bride.
She's like the really good witches.
Wow.
That's a hell of a name.
Hick Atari Blood Brides, yeah, it's really cool.
Yeah, Blood Brides is like, wow, okay.
Eventually, she in the Gladiator Arena,
killed a group of completely untrained Eldar slaves
and was kind of like, you know, fuck this.
You know, this is kind of messed up.
I don't like killing untrained slaves.
This is bad.
Yeah, like, I don't really want to do this anymore.
And so she eventually made her escape and was being chased down by Drukari when a certain azureman saved her.
The Azure Man?
The Azure Man.
So the young girl that stopped him from suicide was actually a young Jane Tsar.
Oh, that was her.
And the girl that he saved being attacked by the Dukari was actually her making her escape from them.
Oh, cool.
It all good for Jane Tsar.
It all comes together, you know?
Nice.
Just don't go after the night lords.
Well, she did kill a lot of them.
She did, but maybe in hindsight.
Oh, they got her armor back anyway, so whatever.
Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's fine.
But yes, so Jane Zar was one of the first aspect warrior,
or, well, I guess the first Aspect Warrior,
but one of the first Phoenix Lords to join.
join azuremen to go ahead and help find these temples because she was saved by him from the
Dukari and kind of gave him purpose again in life you know after the death of his brother
and destruction of oh I don't know his whole race everything he knew and loved is dead
quite the um quite the conundrum one might say and ever since we're like yeah he's clad in
azure all I can hear when we say his name is he's the azure
Man. He's the Azure
Man. Azure Man.
He's clad in Azure Man.
Alright, now I don't
like this anymore.
Me. It's too much Azure.
Too much, so much blue.
Ted, make the thumbnail just the color
Azure. It's just a
block of Azure. It's just
a big wallpaper of
just the color blue.
Yeah. Excellent.
So, Jane Zarr,
of course, is the leader
the Howling Banshees.
She, the Aspect Warrior Shrine
for the, well, her name
in Low Gothic, it was the storm
of silence, as the Jane Tsar.
It's kind of translated to.
That's cool. I like that.
It's a fun one. She was the first to ever
master the psychic scream
that is known
by the Howling Banshees. That's super
debilitating. Yep.
She has her long pole arm and her
cool triple spinny blade,
the silent death and the
Okay, well, technically it's called the
Janus Moore and the
Jai Morin, which is the pole arm,
the blade of destruction.
It was a...
She is very cool.
It was a very potent blade
that actually survived during the time of the fall.
I would not be surprised
if that pole arm was a weapon she used
in the witch pits.
Oh, the witch pits, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, they definitely used it in the book.
Definitely in the book too, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, in the witch pits, certainly possible.
Mm-hmm.
You're a problem with saying the words, witch-pits.
Witch-pits.
Witches with their pits.
There's someone out there with the fetish that's which pits.
Which pits?
Specifically, like, not like even these kinds of witches, like the old school, like, the old, like the old school, like...
Yeah, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-h.
Yeah, probably.
And anybody that's into witch-pits is already, is probably also into Grand Blue Fantasy.
You won't get that reference because it's an anime-mobile gotcha game,
but I'm sure there are people in the chat that get it.
I think those three words you just said,
anime mobile gotcha game,
are like cursed ruins,
and you've like unleashed some kind of demon.
Especially for you,
especially.
It's like it's horrible gotcha,
it's anime,
and it's mobile.
Oof.
Yeah,
I really don't know
if you could have used worse words.
I'm proud of you.
Oh,
I was,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was about to say a spell, but I was like, no, that franchise is cursed.
I don't want to talk about it.
A spell.
Are you, you, you break, all right, screw it.
So, Jane Zarr, of course, is talked about quite often.
There is a book of Jane Zar that talks a lot about the accompaniment of her and
Azerman.
It's kind of like just them going through the processes, founding the new area, founding the new
temple and all that.
while she might not be the OG as Asramim,
she's basically like his second.
Yeah, she was like the second Phoenix Lord to ever exist.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Along with the other groups he went along with,
there was also Ahra.
Ahra, we talked a bit about in the Aspect Warrior episode,
and this is the one that was originally the Phoenix.
Lord of the striking scorpions, the ones that look like Prater.
Oh, is he the one that goes to chaos?
Not quite.
Yeah, he has like a path of destruction kind of.
And he basically goes just mad.
And I believe kills a lot of his temple.
But him and the current Phoenix Lord, Carandrus.
Carandris, they had like, I think they had like a 17-day duel.
some like absolute anime bullshit
like 17 days of fighting
or some crap
and eventually
Arhaar was banished
gone mad went crazy and
left
which we believe
it is theorized that he is
Drizar now
I don't know if that's technically
100% confirmed but it is
highly alluded to
that he was the one who went downhill into Drizar
I was going to say, if you wanted that to be a real anime fight, it would be the opposite,
where it would be like 17 episodes, but the fight lasted five minutes.
That would be anime.
That is also true, yeah.
That also, what's the Rockleaf fight?
I was thinking more Goku versus Friza when Namik was set to explode in, I think it was five minutes,
and their fight lasts like 20 episodes.
Oh, good Lord.
Yeah, it's a doozy.
Actually, the Garra-Rock-Leafi wasn't that long.
It was like two episodes.
I almost saw the first season of Naruto.
That's after the first season?
I think so.
Oh, wow.
Because, like, my favorite character was Zabuzza, and I was like, oh, yeah, he's so cool, and Haku is so cool.
And I'm sure they're just going to be converted, and they're going to become, oh, they're dead.
And then I was like, well, I don't care anymore.
Yeah, so.
Um, yeah.
So I'm, I'm actually kind of surprised I watched as much Nartu as it is as a kid, but, uh...
Me too, because that's so Shonen anime trope that I was like, Bricky?
I was 11.
I was 11.
Oh, okay.
Okay, gotcha.
It was, it was very long ago.
Anyway, um, the hell is I talking about, Kerandros.
Uh, so, yes, Carandros basically has sworn to kill Ahara and maybe now Drizar.
Uh, and even their, their weapon's name.
is literally called Ahar's Bain.
They literally named their weapon after the guy they hate so much.
I like it. That's a level of petty I can get behind.
It's pretty petty. I won't lie.
I can get behind that. I'm here for it. I respect it.
I mean, like, I get it. You know, like, I get it. But damn.
Yeah, I get it. I respect it. Firm handshakes all around.
Firm handshakes.
So yes, Arsbane is the fancy-pancy weapon that they use.
Corandros is kind of an interesting one.
They're a little bit due to this kind of uptaking of the guard, retaking of the new garb.
They're a little bit like juvenile at times.
Kind of in the idea that they're like, they hide a lot or like maybe overly apologize when they make mistakes.
Kind of just not like they're actually children or.
anything, but they just are a little bit
more
emotional in that way.
Maybe a little naive.
Maybe a little naive, you know?
A little more, I would call them more
human, but you know, you know what I mean.
For an Eldar, that is, yeah.
He's very nomadic, however.
Kind of just showing, like,
traveling the galaxy randomly and around.
He's just kind of showing up and kills
whatever he wants and then just kind of leaves again,
which is very predator, you know?
shows up, kills everything leaves.
Yeah, extremely gigacad meme.
Very based.
Yeah, Craying Joseph just kind of pops his way around places and does the murder.
Just a nomadic murder hobo.
You know, I mean, you know, a lot of Eldar could be argued as nomadic murder hobos.
Is that not what like samurai were nomadic murder hopo?
Well, no, they were nomadic murder mercenaries, not hobos.
Well, I would say that's probably a Ronan, right?
Casamri are servants to the emperor or whatever.
So they would murder in the name of their lord.
But yeah, Ronan are nomadic murder hobos for sure.
I was going to say, not this emperor.
No, no, not biggie.
Feudal Japan emperor.
So past that, we also have Malgan Ra.
The boy.
The boy.
Now, unfortunately, Malgan Ra
doesn't have as much as you'd like.
Honestly, Carandros and Onward,
the rest of the Phoenix Lords are a little light
on details,
which is unfortunate.
It's really Azerman and Jane Zaur
take a good chunk of the
overall Phoenix Lord lore.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I just like Malgan Ra so much
because he's, like, so edgy,
and he was one of the first minis I considered painting,
and I just saw that.
that he has quite a kill list.
Like, I remember looking, glancing at the wiki,
and it's like, oh, yeah, he's killed,
and it's like four pages of, like, notable kills or something.
He does have a lot.
Yeah.
Because Malgan Raw, if I mentioned last time,
he was one of the craft rules to survive,
the fall of the LDAR,
but it got caught in the Aeotera's gravity
and kind of just got grabbed and pulled into the fucking warp.
Yeah.
And he was the only one to survive.
So when Azramim trained him and kind of like brought him along, he was the by far the weirdest.
So honestly, the Phoenix Lords, I genuinely look as like a goddamn anime, not haram, but like a group.
So you have the main character, which is Azamim.
You have the love interest, strong girl one, which is Jane's R.
And then you have their various sidekicks, right?
and so Carandros is the young kind of juvenileish one
Malgan Ra is the edge lord
Ah okay
So they're an anime pack
They're a shonen anime pack
They're a battle trope
They are honestly a shonen anime pack
Because Malgan Ra is the edge lord
He was the furthest away from all the other members
Of the Phoenix Lords
He fashioned these weird occultic weapons
It didn't like having big blades and fancy swords like his brothers.
He decided like, you know what, I'm going to wield a giant gun and use it like a scalpel.
Yeah, a scyth sniper.
Literally the Mao Gitar loosely translated to the word harvester.
Oh, man, he's so edgy.
And he looks like the grim reaper.
Oh, what an edge lord.
It is a shuriken cannon fitted with a power weapon to combine together,
which is why the Dark Reapers, his aspect group, fire like long-range weapons and stuff.
It kind of goes along with him.
Makes sense, makes sense.
There is a little bit of a, I'm not 100% on this, but I like to mention it because it's interesting.
The idea that during the war in heaven, the Eldar God Kane helped smash the Nightbringer.
and one of the shards, the Nightbringer,
is kind of the reason why Malgan Ra looks the way he does.
Kind of a influence of a shard,
because that makes sense, the Nightbringer,
basically is the Grim Reaper.
And he kind of, and Malgan Ra is also the Grim Reaper,
but in his own weird way.
So he was so affected by the shard
that it sort of, like,
affected his whole being and what he wanted to be?
I'm not too,
too sure on the whole thing,
but I know that's like either a theory or a discussion.
Thanks for watching.
The game theory.
In this episode of game theory,
we're going to see how far can you run
before I get you?
Oh no.
I hope pretty far.
Anyway, so he,
the thing about Magunerangoran,
the one thing that is often talked about
when it comes to him is that he
single-handedly fought
off a Tyrann and High Fleet.
Whoa! Oh, that's right.
I vaguely remember somebody telling me that, whether it was
you in that last episode or
a random chat thing on one of
our streams or whatever, but yeah,
I heard that.
Yes, he, uh, during one of the
High Fleet's a
well, not a High Fleet, a swarm.
A swarm from a High Fleet
Leviathan came against him
and he was able to come to the
the Eldar and
single-handedly stopped the
swarm. I don't know how
the wiki is not really give me a
whole lot with it, but he, I guess
he did it. I don't know
how. That's a feat
and a half.
It's too much of a feat.
It's too much. That's, that
and that's not only just little bitty
bugs, like little skim-d that's
like the big monster
mash guys too, like the big
wormy
tearing it, spewing out
the belly and
Tervagon.
Yeah, whatever.
And Malgan Ra just killed all of them.
I like big boys,
a little bit of boys.
Inner city boys.
Inner city tarragon's.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know about this story myself.
I'm hoping that it's,
I mean, it's not like he just shot them all the death,
you know.
I'm sure there's got to be more.
to it, like he detonated something
or released some kind of
powerful super weapon that helped destroy
the tyrannins like, I can understand the
single-handedly thing and the idea
that he was able to,
like a mission impossible kind of deal
where he, by
being smart and strong, was able
to advert the fleet in
some way, but it's not like he stood
on the top of a ship and just shot
at them the whole time. He was just sniping
all over the place, yeah.
Probably more of like a 300
scenario where like he used strategy and maybe the terrain and some carefully planted explosives
and he forced them into like a narrow passage where he could deal with them and all that stuff
but yeah it's maybe he just sithed them all to death and he's just a badass no i i don't i don't think
he's syshe them all to death yeah he was just going through it like they were just a wheat crop you know
just he's not wartarian he should be so besides
that. There was also a little bit of stuff he did during the 13th Black Crusade,
fall katie, all that stuff. Oh yeah, yeah. And he basically came to the aid of Oldth Way.
And during the part where all of the Eye of Terror just started throwing out legions of chaos,
they left this kind of big lesion between the warp. And he kind of took this chance and jumped into
the warp to search for the remnants of his lost craft world. Oh. I'm
I mean, that, for an Eldar to just willingly jump into the warp like that, just unprotected is that's the move?
No, he didn't, no, he didn't like cannonball into the thing.
You had a ship.
I'm positive.
When you said he jumped in, that's what I thought I was just like.
Not physically.
He just sees like away and he's like, I'm going.
Like, you know, like how Drax just jumped into the maw of that monster in the beginning of Guardians.
That was what my head was like, instead of the monster maw, he's just like, oh, is that a portal to the warp?
R.
Just like,
you think he's like in the warp,
just unshielded.
Like in the tides the war.
You just floating around,
like slashing at the war.
You saw what happened
to the like the dudes
on the outside of the nightlife vessel.
And you think he's just doing breaststroke?
He's just like,
like,
I'm out of shape.
Yeah, he's just,
he's just kind of floating around
doing the breaststroke through the warp.
Every now and then a demon comes around.
does a big wide arcing slash with his sight and you know it's malgan rye he can handle it you know
god god what what it's it's a funny picture it is a funny picture that all right that's
anyway he said he jumped in he found his craft world oh shit he actually found it yes
oh and uh and but they're a little weird
I imagine so
They've been in the warp all this time
They will literally
Never
Remove their helms
Ever
And they speak in only
Weird whispers
Oh
That's no good
That's bad
Is that like
They won't remove their helmet
Because
Have you seen the admec meme
Oh because their eyes are like
Ripped open
Yeah it's like
We'll leave that on
We'll leave that on
We don't know why.
There's a question of like, why, why are they seemingly untouched by chaos after being in the warp for 10,000 years?
Oh, I bet it's not good.
Yeah, we don't, we don't know.
So there's questions.
I bet it's real bad.
So that's kind of Valgonraj stick.
We also have Baharoth.
Baharoth is the wind guy, the, the, the, the, the,
Sooping Hacks.
They're very cool.
I like them a lot, too.
Baharoth and Mowgurrah are actually like best buds.
Oh, really?
Yep, they're like really close friends, kind of brothers almost.
They have this idea of like the sun to the moon.
You know that meme of the really goth girl and the girl with the bright rainbow hair
taking a selfie together?
Oh, yeah, yeah, like that Wednesday Netflix show where she's best friends with the real like,
oh, I'm so chipper and rainbowy and, yeah.
Sure.
Baharoth is the chipper rainbowy one.
Baharath is very youthful.
I think they're actually the youngest.
I might be wrong on that one.
I'm assuming by Eldar standards, the youngest means that like,
oh, he's only a thousand years old.
Actually, they might not be the youngest, actually.
I don't know how young Baharaath is.
But Bahraith is very youthful.
Very much like the wind on my face and the soaring
of, well, you know, the Swooping Hawk.
Like, Baharoth is literally
the savior
kind of Eldar, where in the middle
of a fight, you know, you'll see him
silhouetted flying in the air
behind the sun and a big screech
will occur and then he'll just
like fly down and just
hose you with weapons.
That sounds very cool, though.
Very heroic.
Very, yeah, I like that.
He's walking on sunshine.
Whoa.
Hey!
And don't it fits.
Good.
And it's the,
speaks in this like
whispery vibe,
but you know,
the cry of the wind
is Baharoth.
Oh, very cool.
Literally just,
apparently Baharoth
is known to be the fastest
Eldar to have ever lived.
Wow.
Which,
when you think of how fast Eldar are,
he must be moving.
I was going to say,
is that like flash levels
where if like he swoops past you,
your flesh just rips off
and you just,
like,
in the boys when...
Like an A-trade?
Yeah, exactly.
When he's all, like, roided up, and it's just...
And he runs through that poor girl.
I don't know if he's that fast, but I mean...
I mean, maybe. It's 40K, for God's face.
Yeah, it's 40K, Eldar. He might be that fast.
It certainly is possible.
Bahraith just, like, swoops down to the ground,
and the ground just, like, turns into white fire.
Like, uh, the guy is...
The guy is just like a huge, he's a damn like eagle.
He's like Celesteen almost.
We're like, think of this radiant winged figure lit by the sun and then just swoops down and murders everything.
Man, I'm starting to really like Baha'Hath.
Baha'roth is also the most infuriating character in the entire goddamn Eldar codex.
I hate him.
I hate him.
I hate him so much.
It seems like you have a big problem with anything Eldar that flies.
Whether it's their planes, Bahra.
Seems like flying Eldar are a big problem for you on the tabletop.
Bahraath has this ability where basically after he flies and shoots you and then stabs you,
before you can stab him back, he can move anywhere on the battlefield.
So he's just like, zoom, slice, gone, just gone.
Oh, no.
I'm like, oh, cool, I don't get to hit him back, I guess.
Yeah, and he's too far away now.
I got to take a turn to try and get up to him or something.
He's like behind cover, so I can't even shoot him.
He's such, he's so infuriating.
I got, there must be a ton of Eldar players that use him,
because that sounds disgustingly busted.
I think if an Eldar player could take three, they would.
I think Bahraath got like two nerves.
Yeah, Baharath is something else.
I totally understand.
and why people would call for a nerf and why GW would give a nerf to that too.
He still could do his thing, but he's just like, you know, he's just more expensive.
He sounds so cool, though.
Baharat's fun, and it's fun the dynamic between him and Malgan Ra,
how their, like, best buds, and yet he's the youthful lithe,
wind on my face when a Magan Ra is Malga-Raw.
Yeah, the sun and the moon, like you said.
could you you can't run mauganra and baharoth oh yeah you can run as many aspect warriors as you like i think
oh so you could run the best buds the best friends unit i'm pretty sure if you had the
no you can only have four hqs it comes down to the amount of like slots you have because you can
only take so many um slots of a certain battlefield role and they're all yeah yeah
HQs. So, um, the problem is that like, okay, it would be great if I took, like, I, I'll run
Azramen, Jane, Zar, Baharoth, and Fugin. Like, I can do that. Um, but then you have like,
no psychers in your Eldar. Oh, that's, that, that's a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Could really run some
far seers, maybe. Yeah. Or like some warlocks, you know, or like Eldrad or whatever. Yep.
But you could run Baha Rath and Malgan Rha and then do psycher nonsense with the other HQs or something?
Totally.
If you want to have the dynamic duo, be my guess.
You can run Azerman and Jane Zarr, if you'd like.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
I would run Baha Rath and Mangan Rha, at least.
And I might lose every match, but I got to have the best Bud Squad, the seven in the moon.
I wouldn't say so.
I mean, striking or howling band, she, no, no, no.
No, no.
What the hell of the name?
Swooping Hawks.
Swooping hawks are Baharas aspect.
And they're still, I mean, they got nerfed multiple times,
but they're still perfectly fine and very strong and hurt really bad.
And then you'll have like, I know,
I know Malgan Ra's Dark Reapers are not that good.
They're kind of, they're kind of me.
But honestly, though, like, they have, you know,
you could find, you could find your way.
Hmm.
Or maybe I'll just custom, I'll get someone to paint Baharath and Malgan Rahn.
I'll just display them because they're cooled together.
Mm, Baharas Mini, though.
Oh, no.
Have you shown me Baharas Mini?
I have.
Oh, and I didn't like it, did I?
Well, I mean, here it is.
It's, it's not, it's not good.
Oh, well, it's, I don't hate that, actually.
It obviously looks a bit older, but for an older mini, that's okay.
I don't hate that.
Okay, it could be worse, sure, but compared to like the updated version of Malgan Ra.
Yes, it does look like a little baby toy next to new Malgan Ra.
That is fair.
But for an older model, that's still serviceable, I think.
All right.
I hate it, but, you know, to each their own.
Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Lastly, really, the last one, I mean, there's a couple other.
There's like erythil, which is the Shadow Spectres one, that kind of, that's like, doesn't really get a whole lot of support.
And there's also like Dristanta, which is the Shining Spears that also really doesn't have much lore.
But the last, like, major one would be Fugin.
Oh, yeah, the one with the really unfortunate mini despite him being so cool.
Yeah, the Burning Lance, fire dragon man.
Please update his mini.
Please update his mini.
I think it's so bad.
So Fugam is an interesting guy where he's just all about like pure murder.
Right.
Like you, if Fugin looks at you, like you're, you begin to smoke, you know, that kind of thing.
Like he is just, both like maybe a literal but also like a metaphorical kind of thing.
The idea is that his gaze is flame, smoke rising from the blistered skin of those who do not
address him with proper respect.
Dang.
And, you know, he's all about pure, complete destruction, the absolute craft of annihilation,
like until unto, to shreds, you say.
To shreds, to ash.
I mean, if he's all about complete destruction, then fire being his element is just
cleansing fire until it is.
ash until even bone is dust.
It is literally purely death.
Every bit of you is reduced to ashes on wind.
And the interesting thing about Fugin, despite him not really having a ton of lore,
is he's got this neat concept about the chain.
And it's the idea that as he destroys demons, among other useful enemies,
he's crafting himself a chain.
This chain might not necessarily be literal.
It could be metaphorical, but it could be literal in its own way.
But the idea of this chain is that it is meant to bind the flaming dragon that he represents,
the Eldar's greatest dragon, and kind of use it to, for lack of a better term,
sick it on chaos.
Oh, okay.
So he's making a metaphorical chain for,
Wait, himself?
A metaphorical chain to rope the dragon that he is like based off of represents.
And like the Eldar dragon of fire or whatever and sick it on chaos.
Okay, so he is actually looking to chain a literal dragon that he represents.
Or metaphorically chaining a dragon to sicken on the chaos gods.
One could argue that the chain is simply his martial prowess, and he is the dragon.
It's a lot of metaphorical woo-woo shit that the Eldar are doing.
So it's kind of like he is honing his killing potential the way you would temper a chain,
and with each new link he gets a little stronger until he can fully tame the beast that is his full potential type of stick?
Well, that would be one interpretation of it.
There is absolutely an interpretation that it is a literal chain.
He is literally going to get a dragon and send it.
Man, if he gets an updated mini where a cool version of him is riding a dope-ass fire dragon,
I am here for it and I will pay as much money as it takes to get it.
The chain thing is kind of like, it could be literal, it could be metaphorical.
I'm assuming it's metaphorical, but I think it's up to interpretation at the moment.
I will say it again.
I hope it's literal because...
You want it on a dragon?
I want him on a flaming, crazy alien fire dragon.
Yes.
Fugin is a very interesting guy.
He hits real hard.
He hits real hard.
Just a real shame about that mini.
Real shame about that damn mini.
It's a real shame.
Although, I guess he probably...
If this was Age of Sigma,
he'd get a mini where he's riding a literal flame dragon.
But since it's 40K, they don't really do that.
They don't do much dragon.
No.
There's a couple, like, things.
There's a void dragon, but he's not really a dragon dragon.
No, that is, there's absolutely not that.
Very cool mini, though.
Holy shit.
But Fugin's idea, though,
and this kind of goes along with all the other Featling Explorids,
is that there is an event.
called Rana Dondra.
And Rana Dondra is the end of all days.
And it is a prophesized and visions type thing
of the legendary destruction
of the entire Eldar species
as well as the forces of chaos simultaneously.
Oh, so it's like Ragnarok.
It is basically Ragnarok,
But with Ragnarok, they kill, I'm here to kill chaos.
I'm here to kill chaos.
They destroy chaos and themselves in mutually assured destruction.
Oh, wow, that is basically Ragnarok.
The idea is that all the Phoenix lords die on this final battle.
Okay.
They sacrifice themselves for the greater good.
Basically.
Bahraith will die.
Everyone will die.
But Fugin will be the last to fall.
He will be the final one
with this like last burning bright
in this battle before he will be the last one to be struck down.
So he's Sertr in this Ragnarok metaphor.
A little bit, which makes sense
because he is the fire dragon.
That makes sense, yep.
And so they're all a little bit
frightened about this whole
final days. One could argue they're trying
to get towards it with the whole Yanari
thing. Oh yeah.
I would imagine it would be very scary
but at the same time it's like, well yeah
it sucks that we have to die
but at the same time if it gets rid
of chaos that seems
like a pretty decent sacrifice.
If it gets rid of chaos
100%
Yeah. And I'm sure
the Imperium's like hey you guys need a hand with that
like we get rid of the elder
and chaos?
Let's just let us know what we can do.
No, I mean, well, I don't know if the PIRM would like to be a lot more of a,
oh, well, yeah, I guess they get rid of Eldar also.
Yeah, it's like we get rid of the Eldar and chaos.
Guys, we're here, we're ready to volunteer whatever you need.
Yes, USA, USA, USA, USA, woo, woo, woo.
So that's really most of the idea of Fing's Lords,
The Rana Dandra is the final act of them, the noble sacrifice of the Eldar race versus the chaos gods.
Azerman founded the temple along with the young girl Jane Tsar.
And then you have your anime side characters.
You have Egy Malgan Ra, juvenile younger Carandros, who has a grudge against his arch rival.
You have Baharoth, which is the fun hippie one.
And then you've got Fugin, who is the really big boss.
one. Nice. It's
Naruto. A little
bit. It's Naruto. You got Saske
with the edge.
Are you actually calling
Azerman fucking Naruto?
Yeah, dude. He's Naruto.
I'm actually more offended by Jane Zahar being
Sakura. That's more offensive to me.
Oh, yeah, she would have to
be Sakura, wouldn't she?
And like, and like,
Jane Zar, dude.
Oh, no.
Never mind. It's not Naruto. Just
because of that. We got to find a different anime
reference because, uh-uh-uh.
Yeah, well, you get, it's the group.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's the fun part of it.
James Hart is not soccer up.
Let's not with that, yeah.
No way, Jose. Do not make art of that, please.
I'm actually a little surprised people don't use Aserman
more often. I don't see him very often in Lists,
but he's actually really good.
The sword with his brother, and it hits like a truck.
I'm just kind of surprised.
Yeah, why don't people use it more?
I don't know, maybe because Dyer Avengers
are not the greatest of the troops
and they're just a little bit mid,
but they're actually not.
They hit pretty hard.
I mean, even if they're mid
and you have an HQ model
that hits like a truck,
that kind of turns a mid squad
into a pretty decent squad, doesn't it?
Well, it doesn't quite work that way.
They're like separate.
Oh, wow.
He doesn't really give them like a special...
Oh, he doesn't give them any, like, special buff
or anything.
It's just kind of like they're there
and he's there.
and they don't get any special ties.
Actually, Dyer Avengers have some pretty good abilities.
Wait, why don't they use Ashrman more often?
Maybe it's because why use Aserman when you would use instead,
you would use Baharoth or Jane Zar.
Because Jane Zarr also rips.
Just rips.
So I guess that makes sense.
Well, I mean, you could use both.
Well, like, what would your HQ models be if you were,
to say an Eldar player, right?
Because you wouldn't, apparently you wouldn't take all four of the aspect warriors.
But, like, would you take two of them?
Would you take just one of them?
Because there are other areas that you feel are better?
Like, what's the move?
I am not sure.
I know a lot of people like to take Eldrad,
which was the guy that Fulgrim spoke to.
Oh, right, right.
But that's because he's, like, the gigacer.
And Eldars.
Yeah, and Eldar's happy
We'll help you with that
I don't really know
It'd probably just be psycher stuff
It depends
Like Eldar are kind of expensive
Because they're so strong
They're just also very like squishy
Yeah
So I don't know
It doesn't
I'm not really sure
But if I were to make an Eldar army
I wouldn't
But if I were to
It would probably be some kind of combo
Of like a Fugin
And Azerman probably
Because I like Asermen
And Fugin maybe
Maybe a little Jain Tsar in there
But yeah
Then I would start running low on
on psych or stuff, so, I don't know.
Fugin.
Fugin, so...
But then you'd have to run that mini and...
Or he's a proxy amount, I guess.
Yeah, but Fugin just like, he...
He has, like, one shot.
He has this good melee, but he has one
shot with his giant gun,
and there's a good chance that that shot
just doesn't land. But if it does,
oh my God.
Kill a Titan.
Well, no, but it rips.
Damn. Let it rip.
It's no towel rail gun.
It should be.
All right. Beautiful. Lovely. Excellent. That's the episode. Shai is not here, so she can't stop us from being stupid.
Nope. We have covered this aspect of the Eldar.
Hell yeah. Next week, we're going to do some God damn, Angron.
Oh, hell yeah. More of that arcs of omen stuff.
And I'm mad about it.
What? Oh, well, because it's Angron. I get it. I see.
what you did there.
Ha, ha, ha.
Cut it.
All right, yep.
Goodbye.
