Adeptus Ridiculous - Plane Flies Upside-down While Pilots Fistfight The Hijacker | Detective Ridiculous

Episode Date: March 31, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousOn April 7, 1994, Federal Express Fligh...t 705, a McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30 cargo jet carrying electronics equipment across the United States from Memphis, Tennessee, to San Jose, California, was the subject of a hijack attempt by Auburn R. Calloway, a Federal Express employee facing possible dismissal at a hearing scheduled for the following day for having lied about his flight hours. He boarded the scheduled flight as a deadhead passenger carrying a guitar case concealing several hammers and a speargun. He tried to switch off the aircraft's cockpit voice recorder (CVR) before takeoff. Once airborne, he attempted to kill the crew with hammers so their injuries would appear consistent with an accident rather than a hijacking. The CVR, however, was switched back on by the flight engineer, believing that he had neglected to turn it on.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:16 everybody to another episode of Detective Ridiculous, where we talk about the only thing more terrifying than Warhammer, real life. And I would love to give a wonderful shout out to the very sweet little lady that went to my meetup at Pax that specifically said, I am not a Warhammer fan. I am very much a detective ridiculous fan. And really, really loves the dynamic of D.K. telling the stories. This is actually real. I'm not kidding. Aw, that's so sweet. She was so sweet. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I wanted to shout out. Shout out. So thank you. Thank you for coming around during that. But also, to all of our listeners and viewers, if you enjoy this podcast, check out patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you can get posters, bloopers, and Discord access, including the brand new DB Cooper poster. The parachute is not open yet. Will it open?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Who knows? Find out the next episode of Dragon Ball Z. And you can purchase that down in the description at Orchidate.com. You made an anime reference. The world is healing. It's like a, it's mainstream enough, you know? That's true. Dragon Ball Z is mainstream enough.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Rest in peace of Kiratoriama. Yeah, that hit like a truck. Even I was like, God damn. Yeah. The amount of projects he's been a part of is insane. I was particularly rough because, you know, down here, you know, we both live in SoCal and Dragon Ball Z in the, in like the Mexican-Hispanic community is giant. Oh, yeah, it is among like every race and creed, everybody knows to some degree and loves Dragon Ball Z. Well, besides me, because, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Even you love Dragon Ball Z. Don't, don't tell me you, you don't like at least Android 18. I, well, okay, character equals hot is very different. I see you like Dragon Ball Z. Confirmed. See? Evidence right there. You know what, D.K., I'm leaving.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Mr. Electric, you know what to do. Shahi left, I think, is that all I had to do was tell him that he loves Dragon Ball Z? Sweet, oh, let's go. This is going to be a great episode. So today, everybody, of Detective Ridiculous. D. Kai, I'm in your walls. Whoa! I don't have like the frying pan sound effect.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I wish I did. Okay. Well, so Bricky's back. Hi, Ricky. I'm back. I went to D.K.'s house and hit him with a frying pan and then left. Yeah, because I had the gall to say that he likes Dragon Ball Z because Android 18 is hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Shai, play the pan smack. Oh, all right. What's the episode about? So. Last episode of Detective Ridiculous, we had kind of a wild one that was like full of speculation and theories and no one knows what happened to Little Indy really or who kidnapped Little, but today's episode, there will be none of that because it's, it's not a mystery, we know what happened, and we know why it happened. But it's still just this absolutely wild scenario that needs to be talked about. regardless. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So there's no, we don't have issue with speculation. We're not testing theories. We know it's just like a crazy, crazy story. Yes, sir. All right. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So without further ado, today we are going to be talking about Federal Express Flight 705. Oh, I thought we were going to talk about the Malaysian flight. And I'm like, that's definitely something. We have no idea. What is happening there? Oh, we'll talk about what's happening there because that is actually, we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Don't worry. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Denzel Washington in flight is having a time again. So we're going back to April 7, 1994. There is a Federal Express cargo plane, Express Flight 705. It's a DC-10 plane that is getting ready to start its general. journey from Memphis, Tennessee into San Jose, California.
Starting point is 00:04:47 The flight crew consisted of Captain David Sanders, age 49, first officer James Tucker, Jr., age 42, and their flight engineer, Andrew Andy Peterson, aged 39. There was also a fourth passenger named Auburn Calloway. He was a 42-year-old Federal Express employee. that was deadheading on this flight. And deadheading is kind of like when you hit your ride for free on a company plane for various reasons. Either, you know, you really need to be somewhere to fly another one of their planes, or I think he claimed he had like a family emergency.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Oh, it's really important that I get back to San Jose because there's just some really important family stuff. And I'm going to hit your ride on this cargo plane, which is completely normal thing, not out of the ordinary. Can I back us up for a moment? And this is going to be a question that I think is going to sound incredibly stupid. Don't say anything. I know you had a retort, like, primed. It would get to sound incredibly stupid, but I think it's also a question that other viewers will also want to ask and not ask because they think it'll be too stupid. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Federal Express is FedEx, correct? Yes, that is basically FedEx. It is FedEx. Yes. Okay, I just just, I heard you say Federal Express, I put it together, but I was thinking for a moment, like, you know, there's a good, there might be a chance that I'm wrong. I mean, it's entirely possible, you know, that, that was not as stupid as a question as I was expecting. I thought you were going to be like, so airplane, is this in the sky? You know, like, it wasn't as, you know. I'm thinking, I'm just, I'm just thinking specifically because, you know, I'm going to get like a comment. It's like, Bricky, you idiot.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Of course, it's FedEx. And I'm going to imagine we're going to have like a viewer from like South America who doesn't really understand American stuff and be like, yeah, I didn't know either. I'm not thinking I'm going to clear that up. That's fair. Sure. I'm a man of the people. Yeah, shy said it's like DC Comics. The name doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's, you know, Detective Comics, comics, comics.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You know, like, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But, you know, it is what it is. That's a good point. Yeah. It's like ripping pieces. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's more of a meme thing that's supposed to be stupid, right? Yeah, like SMH my head, right?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah. So, again, there's only four people on this plane, because this is specifically a cargo plane that is just carrying, I think it's electric parts. So no other passengers or anything on this flight, they're just, you know, hauling, haul in some electric parts from Memphis to San Josie. So the pre-flight checks are going well. You know, they're all getting acquainted with each other,
Starting point is 00:07:40 and Auburn Calloway is introducing himself to everyone, letting you know, hey guys, I'm just kind of here for the ride. You know, I got to hit your ride to San Jose, so I'm deadheading. He has a carry-on with him. It's this guitar case that he stows, and, you know, everybody's just kind of chilling and concentrating on making sure everything is good for the flight. The only thing that they see that seems out of sorts is that the flight engineer, Andy Peterson,
Starting point is 00:08:09 notices that the cockpit voice recorder has been turned off. So he's like, wow, that's weird and flips it back on. Okay, let's go back to flight checks. And at some point, he has to leave the cockpit, check on some stuff, and then he comes back into the cockpit, and he's like, huh, ah, cockpit voice recorder's off again. that's really, really weird. That's a little suss.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah, he pops that thing back in. He's like, okay, well, that is weird, and I need to keep an eye on that, because if the CVR malfunctions, that's a flight no-go. You cannot take off if your cockpit voice recorder is not functioning right, because as the name suggests,
Starting point is 00:08:54 it records the happenings in the cockpit in 30-minute interview. so that if something happens on the plane, you just review the CVR and figure out what went wrong. I wonder, wait, was his co-pilot in there at the time? And he was like, hey, man, why is this, why is this shutting off? I don't think he brought it up to anybody. I think he just saw it and he was like, hmm,
Starting point is 00:09:18 I'm just going to keep an eye on that and see if maybe, because maybe it was malfunctioning, maybe just popped out again or whatever, but, I'm going to keep an eye on it. A bit of a bit of a strange thing not to mention that one. It's been twice, you know, like two times. Yeah. You know, okay, you know, try fair.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Fair when one blinky light, well, I don't know. I mean, like, I say when one blinky light is off, it should be, you know, that whole, et cetera, et cetera. But, I mean, they're trained for this. So I don't know. Yeah. Well, to be fair, the CVR isn't a blinking light. If you look at the picture above the one she put, it's like this knob that when it's off, it sticks out. and then you got to push it back in.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's true. So not technically a light, but you got the idea. It's the same thing, really. But other than that, everything is pretty standard. Everything checks out. There's no red flags, and they get underway. And it is an absolutely crystal clear, perfect day. Weather, super ideal for flying, clear blue skies,
Starting point is 00:10:22 not too many clouds, just perfect conditions for flying. So, about 30 or so minutes into the flight, the flight engineer Andy Peterson noticed that Auburn Callaway is stepping into the cockpit. He sees him out of the corner of his eye and he's like, oh, hey, it's Auburn. He's probably, you know, he's also a flight engineer and a pilot. And, you know, he's probably getting a little bored because we have kind of a long flight ahead of us. He probably just wants to have like a little bit of a casual conversation with the crew, you know. I want to get to know us and everything. And then Auburn Calloway blasts him in the head with a hammer.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Oh. Oh. Yeah. What? Auburn Calloway just blasts him over the head with a hammer. Okay. Okay. I got to get angry at you for a second here.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Okay. You using the phrase blasts him and then with a, The last thing I thought you were going to say was hammer. I expected shotgun, handgun, gun, gun, something. Not hammer. Yeah, he essentially came in dual wielding hammers. What a baller. Boom.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He smacks, he smacks Andy Peterson. And then boom, he hits the first officer. The first officer gets just way laid with a hammer. and the captain gets attacked too. And honestly, first officer James Tucker was struck so hard that he described it as like, he didn't lose consciousness, but he lost what he calls useful consciousness in the sense that he was like aware of his surroundings, but he couldn't do anything. His head just kind of, like concussed, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah. He just kind of slumps back in his chair and he is just, the lights are on, but nobody's home for like a full minute. Like, his, he gets hit so hard. There are, like, his skull is fractured and there are now bone chips stuck in his brain. Oh, my God. Yeah. He's able to, like, state this later, though, so he clearly lives. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But, oh my God. Yeah, he got hit hard. And Peterson, the flight engineer, actually has a temporal artery severed. So he's in real bad shape, and that's only going to get worse. Okay. So this was, so wait, which, did two people beat the hell out of them, or was the one guy? Is just the one guy that was deadheading. Auburn Calloway is the other.
Starting point is 00:13:21 is the attacker. You said there was four people or three people on the plane? Including Auburn Calloway, there's four. So there is the captain Dave Sanders. There's the first officer, James Tucker Jr., the flight engineer, Andrew Peterson, and then Auburn Calloway is the deadheader. So I'm sorry, names always. So which of the three, which two of the three got bopped?
Starting point is 00:13:47 All of them. Oh, they all got bopped? They all get bopped. bopped all of them. Because Calloway took him by surprise. Yeah, but like... None of them were expecting Calloway to just come out of nowhere and just boom! Because he had these weapons stored in his, um, in his guitar case that he brought on.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So no one is suspecting that. It's just, uh, it's just a simple concept of like, you know, you don't normally someone who's able to bang out three separate unconscious people. people with a weapon is that that's a movie thing you know like i feel like that's not something you i imagine the guy going in like john wick just like wababab and just breaking down three people it's kind of crazy what's crazy is that peterson and uh the captain are not unconscious at this point they all got struck and they're all not in a good way but they're not unconscious um the first officer is the only one that's just like slump back and like oh god where am i i i can't move
Starting point is 00:14:51 whoa, whoa. Because even though Peterson and the captain got struck real hard, they're both aware enough to be like, okay, I got to unstrap and we got to go after this guy because, whoa, what the just happened? Like they are getting up out of their seats still, which is kind of crazy. But I guess now it should be mentioned that I think everyone on the crew
Starting point is 00:15:19 except Peterson were form. service people. Like the captain and the first officer combined had over 10 plus years in the Navy. But Auburn Calloway is also a former Navy pilot and a martial arts expert, so you can imagine he came in swinging like a storm. Okay, okay. But anyway, so the captain and flight engineer, like I said, somehow after getting struck with hammers and a severed temporal artery.
Starting point is 00:15:51 They're like kind of getting out of their seats and like, okay, we got to get Callaway. Problem is Calloway had exited the cockpit and he comes back in this time, not with a hammer, but with a goddamn spear gun. Like for fishing? Yes, he comes in with a spear gun. Is Calloway like some kind of McGiver plane jacker? We'll talk about it. So he's waving this spear gun around and he's like, hey, hey,
Starting point is 00:16:21 You get, hey, hey, I will kill you, you know, and like, oh, get back in your seat. I'm going to tell you what, hey, hi, you know. But Peterson is kind of off to the side, and so he's got like, he sees the barrel of this spear gun coming through the door. And he goes into like just Uber Chad mode and he grabs the spear tip. because the spear tip protrudes out of the gun like four inches or so. So he grabs that. He grabs that and he's trying to like wrestle it out of Calloway's hands. And while they're struggling, the captain, Dave Sanders, he jumps into the fray
Starting point is 00:17:06 and they both start trying to wrestle the spear gun out of Calloway's hands. And it turns into this huge brawl where Peterson and Sanders, are trying their damnedest to somehow subdue Calloway who naturally has the upper hand on them since he doesn't have any injuries and those two he didn't get smashed in the head with a hammer
Starting point is 00:17:33 wait these guys are badasses they see the speargun and they're like bets yeah it's crazy that they're able to do this okay okay so first off officer James Tucker is coming to and he's like, whoa, I got, I got to fly the plane because those two are trying to subdue count. Someone's got to fly the plane. And he, he kind of realizes,
Starting point is 00:18:00 and he says this in an interview, he's like, well, at that point, I was like, whoa, I have the best weapons. I have the best weapon in my hands right now. It's the plane. Oh, please tell me he just like yanked it sideways. He starts pulling these kind of crazy maneuvers, because, he was a fighter pilot in the Navy. Oh my God. He starts this immediate 15 degree climb that just knocks everyone on their ass. Then he starts making like these super hard banks left and right. And they throw Callaway and the crew up against the walls.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And they're fighting while they're stuck against the wall. They're kind of like trying to wrestle the spear gun out of his hands. They're grabbing for the hammers that are rolling around. and he's trying. I'm sorry. Shy, this is not, this is not related to the episode. Shai, please during this period of time, please use the trailer footage of Modern Warfare 3 in 2011,
Starting point is 00:19:03 where they're flying around in zero G in the cockpit of a plane. You know what I'm talking about. That's all I'm asking for. Thank you. Okay. Okay. So he's banking left, banking. He's trying to give his guys an advantage.
Starting point is 00:19:17 over Calloway. And at one point, he rolls the plane 140 degrees. The plane is almost upside down. He says the only reason he didn't go 180
Starting point is 00:19:34 is because if he went 180 completely upside down, he wouldn't be able to have any way to orient the land around him. He had to go 140 because then he could still see out the windows where everything was. So the plane is almost upside down right now,
Starting point is 00:19:52 and the crew in Calloway are literally fighting on the ceiling of the plane. They are rolling around on the ceiling of the plane. Just, give me that speargun. Get the hammer. Jesus. All right. Now we play the scene from inception when they're in the hotel room and it's spinning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So that picture Shai showed earlier of the plane almost upside down, that is how that plane, looked right now. Oh my god. Yes. So the other problem though is that the first officer flying the plane has no idea what's going on back there. All he can hear is the violence. All he can hear is grunts and give me the... He doesn't know if his maneuvers are helping the fight. He doesn't know if his maneuvers are actually hindering his crewmates in the fight. But he is obviously pushing this cargo plane well past its limitations. DC10s were not built for hard banks and barrel rolls.
Starting point is 00:20:57 So this is the fact that he's even able to do this stuff is in a DC 10 while he has a fractured skull is incredible. But you said these are all like ex-military guys. True. They are like ex-Navy. Right. And he's a fighter. He was a fighter pilot, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But it's insane that he is pulling these maneuvers off in this big old honkin DC-10. I feel like at some point when he got hit hard enough, he's just like, all right, training takes over. This is what I know. There's a problem here. Fly the plane funny. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Pretty much. So in the actual fight, I think Calloway at this point is kind of on the winning end. Because even though the plane is going absolutely crazy and rolling and they're fighting on the ceiling of the plane. Again, the captain and flight engineer have both been hit kind of loopy. So they're doing the best they can, but as this fight goes on, it's going to get worse and worse for them because at some point, Peterson is going to bleed out.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And so Sanders, wounded, isn't going to be able to handle Calloway alone. There's just no chance he is going to 1V1 Calloway in his current state. So they're coming out of that 140 degree roll and the first officer is like, you know what, that fight doesn't sound like it's going well, I still got to do some stuff. So he takes this big ass DC10 out of the 140 degree turn and he goes nosedive. And he is literally in this nose dive, he is flying the plane. I think they said it was the fastest a DC-10 has ever been flown. Are air traffic control and stuff, are they like noticing this plane is doing this shit? And they're like, oh, we need like what's going on?
Starting point is 00:22:59 I think at this point they don't know. They haven't been radioed in yet. So I don't think they've quite noticed just yet. Okay, because it's doing some blacky. think that that control would be like, whoa, those are weird maneuvers. It's like, hey, look at, hey, look at that. There's our, there's our express airliner and it is doing flips. All right, something's up. Why is it barrel rolling? What the hell? But yeah, I'm shocked that like nuts and bolts didn't just start popping off this thing. The speed gauge is maxed out. And, and here,
Starting point is 00:23:41 recalls that the wind whooshing off the plane was so loud that he was probably going faster than the gauges could indicate. The elevators on the back of the plane are flapping around, just unresponsive because they're going so fast
Starting point is 00:23:57 and there's so much wind going across them. It is incredible that he didn't literally just fly this thing apart. And again, in the back, they are sliding down the ceiling. They're sliding down the side of the plane.
Starting point is 00:24:13 They're like sliding back towards the cockpit. And again, poor Peterson, he is just bleeding all over the place. Like, he is, I have no idea how Peterson is conscious or fighting or anything, let alone against
Starting point is 00:24:33 a full-strength ex-Navy martial arts expert. A fully armed and uninjured assailant, Well, at this point, he could be very injured. Yeah, true. But who knows? Who knows how many times he may have slammed into the interior of the plane? Yeah, how many times just bam, bam, just tossed around like a rag doll.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So the pilot, the, well, I guess the first officer, has another problem. So he has put the throttle to full power. It is full forward, obviously, because they're in this crazy dive and he just wants to do all the crazy stuff. and if he wants to pull them out of this dive, he needs to pull the throttle back into idle position, which is obviously the middle position. But he's only got one arm that's really working. And he's using that one good arm to fly the plane.
Starting point is 00:25:30 So if he wants to pull out of this crazy dive that he's put them in, he needs to take his one good arm, take it off the flight control, pull the throttle idle, and pull them out of the nose dive. Right. So he only has one good arm because of the head injury, right? Not because, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was about saying, I remember him being whacked in the arm.
Starting point is 00:25:53 He's essentially, like, lost feeling in one of his arms. Like, he's, it's, he can kind of use it, but he can't really, his sense of touch is, like, gone in that arm. Gotcha. Okay. And he does. He does, he takes his one good arm, off the thing, pulls it to idle, quickly grabs it back, and he pulls them out of the nosedive.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It's insane. It's insane. Again, the main takeaway of this story so far is just how amazing this crew is. Like, it's insane what they're able to do with all these. It's crazy. And as the plane kind of levels out, things are getting pretty desperate. for the flight engineer and the captain that are fighting off Calloway. Flight engineer is getting weaker and weaker. He's losing more and more blood, and it's just like, oh boy, if he keeps fighting, ugh. But finally, even though the captain, Dave Sanders, is kind of loopy, and he is also losing feeling in one of his arms, he manages to actually wrestle a hammer out of Calloway's hand,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and he just... And he starts to beat him with it. And in the documentary, I mentioned where, like, they interview him, even in all this craziness, he specifically says that at this point, look, I'm not trying to kill Calloway. You know, I want to disable him. I want to knock him out. And I want to get him under control.
Starting point is 00:27:27 So I'm swinging for the fences. But I'm not trying to kill the man, which is wild to me. Because in that situation, I think my primal brain would have taken over. and I would have just started swinging until he stopped moving, and I don't know. I would have been like Ryan Gosling in a particular elevator in a particular movie about driving. It's, I don't, yeah, I don't know if at this point I really would have held back anything because I don't know how I would react. My primal brain would have taken over and I just would have kept swinging until it was just wet paced, you know. Also, it was around this time since they're kind of leveled out and he probably doesn't hear too much fighting.
Starting point is 00:28:06 The first officer is like, okay, I finally have a minute. I can radio into Memphis Airport. Let him know that, man, there's a takeover situation going on. We need an emergency vector back to Memphis. And he specifically told them, we need armed intervention when we land. Which obviously control, the control tower knew meant he wanted a SWAT team ready to literally storm the point.
Starting point is 00:28:56 plane as soon as they landed. And amazingly, for the most part, they pretty much had Callaway basically under control. You know? So much so that Dave Sanders was able to relieve his first officer and take over the duty of flying the plane back into Memphis, because I guess that's how you're supposed to handle emergency situations. The captain is the one that is supposed to, in an emergency, fly the plane. back into its emergency landing.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So, first officer Tucker is relieved, and he starts, you know, taking over the flight duty, and the first officer starts helping Peterson restrain Calloway, who is kind of sort of under control, but he's still putting up a struggle. Peterson still is just a bloody freaking mess. Still, no idea how he's conscious. That is incredible how much this guy is doing with a severed temporal argument. But they're, you know, they're trying to restrain Callaway. But Captain Sanders has a kind of similar problem to the first officer.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Like we said, he's losing his sense of touch. It's leaving him, and one of his sides is kind of starting to go numb. And he has, his emergency vector back to Memphis is going to be one hell of a trick. because not only are they going way too fast, they are also coming in way too heavy because they still have a majority of their unspent fuel on board. So this is going to be...
Starting point is 00:30:37 I never thought about that. The concept of too much fuel that you should have burned. Mm-hmm. So that's wild. That's a big problem. Now, there is a way to start like an emergency dump of the fuel,
Starting point is 00:30:49 but like it's at the flight engineer station. and there's no way he can perform the fuel dump and fly the plane at the same time. Also, Calloway has seemingly started to get a second wind, and he's kicking up a fight again. And apparently, the captain said it sounded so violent, and it sounded like it was getting so bad that he was like, you know what, I am going to let my primal sins take over.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I'm going to get up. I'm going to put the autopplain on for a second. I'm going to go back there and I'm going to kill that man. You know, I appreciate his honesty because I feel like, you know what? Like, yeah, at this point, yeah. Yeah, he was like, the only way we are going to safely land this plane is if I go back there and I kill that man. But before he could do any of that, Tucker and Peterson managed to get him under control
Starting point is 00:31:46 again. I think specifically Tucker managed to hold him down. Peterson got managed to get one of his hammers and he just bludges Callaway with it as hard as he can with like the last of his strength. And they finally get Calloway kind of under control again and he's kind of like handleable. Well, I mean, much like Calloway did to them, you get hit hard enough in the head. You're not really doing much. Well, I mean, he did hit them in the head and look at what they're doing. This crew is insane.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Callaway, you know, Calaway is no slouch in this situation either. I'll give him some credit. But boy, did he underestimate the crew? He chose the wrong fucking pilots, dude. He chose the wrong three dudes to mess with, for sure. He's like, of all of the goddamn FedEx airliners, I had to rob slash hijack.
Starting point is 00:32:41 He pitched the three Rambo. I chose the Bruce Willis, New York one. God damn it. Damn. And you might be thinking, hooray, they have them under control. Everything is cool again. Well, not really. Because the plane, like we said, is still coming in too heavy, too fast. So here's essentially the insane maneuvers that Captain Sanders has to make in this big ass DC-10. To get to the runway, he needs to make an immediate 90-degree turn. He needs to fly parallel to the runway for a bit and then just, you a 180 to be able to even approach the runway. So, aside from all that, he was struck with a hammer, losing sensation and feeling in one of his arms and hands. Again, DC-10 completely overloaded.
Starting point is 00:33:36 DC-10 not meant to pull sudden 90-degree and 180 bank turns, even in optimal conditions. so he has a bit of a struggle in front of him with all of this stuff completely going against him and amazingly he pulls it off perfectly he pulls it off so smooth you would think a DC-10 was actually built to do that like when he lands not even a single landing gear tire was blown out
Starting point is 00:34:09 it's amazing Like that is a damn near miracle status with everything stacked against them with the head trauma, with the bleeding, with the injury, with the stress, with the DC-10, with the fuel, with the overlook. He lands it perfect. This is absolutely ridiculous. It is so crazy. So they land and they pop the emergency door, which unfortunately the SWAT team couldn't storm it because like, you know when you pop the. emergency door and that big yellow like raft ramp pops out. That's, it makes it really easy for people to get out of the plane, but apparently storming up
Starting point is 00:34:52 that thing is a real pain in the ass. So they couldn't storm in there because of that inflatable ramp and they had to like get a ladder so that medics could actually like get up there and treat the crew and everything. Um, the first guy that got up there was a medic. and they're like, hey, toss me up a pair of handcuffs so I can like cuff Callaway, because he's starting to struggle again. He's starting to kick up a bit of a fuss again. So they cuff him, they restrain him. But when that medic gets inside that plane, there is blood everywhere.
Starting point is 00:35:29 It's on the ceiling. It's on the side of the plane. It's all over the floor. It looks like unholy hell was unleashed on the inside of this plane. I'm assuming it's also the blood of every Holy shit Yeah, that's what his that's what his card Look like after the fight
Starting point is 00:35:47 Oh my God, that's oh my God That's the captain The one that has the bandage around his head That's the captain My friend, there are two people with bandages around their heads I'm assuming the guy standing up Yeah, yeah Andy Peterson
Starting point is 00:36:04 The flight engineer is barely conscious at this point because of the blood loss. Not entirely sure how he survived this, but he did, and he was obviously the first one attended to and taken off the plane because he was in bad shape. The first officer, Jim Tucker, was not doing great either because he had this insane skull fracture. Like I said, bone shards are stuck in his brain.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't know if you have that picture from the documentary, but he's like, oh, yeah, you know, when I was, went in for my cat scan, they made a recreation of what my skull cap looked like afterwards. And essentially, he had a fist-sized hole in his skull.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Oh my God. It is. There it is. She has it. Look at that. That's what his skull cap looked like. You know, there are lessons to be learned where it's like, hey, you know, sometimes you can do everything right and still fail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Because I'm thinking of of like of Callaway here. And I don't, I don't think he did much wrong. He just picked the wrong dudes to mess with. Oh, sorry, what's wrong as in like logistically, not morally. He's not a good guy. Planning wise, yeah, pretty much. He, he absolutely did it all right.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And he just chose the wrong dudes. He chose the wrong MFers to mess with. The captain, Dave Sanders, to have his ear stitched back on properly. He had a lot of deep gashes on his head. But as you can see, with the little assistance, he was actually able to walk away from this, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I think Tucker also, because of the brain trauma, I think he had to relearn how to walk, how to talk. Like, he was, oof. So, yeah, they survived. they walk away, well, they survived. And Calloway also taken to the hospital, but he was obviously handcuffed, restrained to his stretcher, and all that stuff. So, that was the absolute insanity of Flight 705, and just, again, I cannot reiterate how incredible this crew was for being able to safeguard themselves and the plane from Auburn Calloway's attempt to take it over. Right. So did we, did we find out his motives?
Starting point is 00:38:42 Ah, yes, I was about to go into that. I was about, Dean Kamen. Yeah? But what we still don't know is why Auburn Calloway decided to do all of this. And what exactly is he hoping to achieve by taking over just like a like a federal express cargo thing? And attempted murder. And attempted murder. There's this one thing of being like having a gun and then like be like, hey, land this plane. X or Y as opposed to, yeah, okay, okay, okay. So what we know about Auburn Callaway is that he was dealing with a failed marriage. Now, it wasn't like he was angry with his wife or anything. He was actually still doing whatever he could to support his ex-wife and their two children.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Still love them, still live for them. But things aren't going super well for him because I think it was either the day before or the day after the attempted hijacking, he was to be summoned to the Federal Express headquarters about falsifying his flying hours, like how many he had as experience before they hired him, which is obviously a big no-no. So in Auburn Calloway's mind, like, they're about to fire him, and he's about to lose the only way he's got to support this family that even though, you know, they are not together anymore, he still lives.
Starting point is 00:40:08 for his wife. He still lives for his kids. He still loves them a lot. Um, but they find this note that he left behind. I think it was in his belongings or in the, maybe it was in his room or in his guitar case. I forget which one. Uh, but it was a letter that specifically said like, yo, you know, I, I still just, you know, I live for my wife and kids. Um, you know, I'm, I'm always trying to secure enough money to make sure the kids can go to college in Stanford, and I believe. And, you know, just stuff like that, you know. But the big thing they find in this letter is that he kind of hinted that he would rather
Starting point is 00:40:45 die at a place and date of his choosing rather than live a life where he could not provide for his family. And so before the... He's not going to get either of those. Yeah. So before the flight, he also transfers every disposable aspect. asset he can to his ex-wife, which is around $54,000. And he leaves his last will and testament, which is, you know, he leaves everything to his
Starting point is 00:41:15 wife and kids. And he leaves that easily found, I think it's just sitting literally right on top of his bed or on top of his bedstand. Um, so Auburn Calloway had decided that what he's going to do is hijack this plane and intentionally crash it, killing himself and the crew in order to make it appear as if it was a work-related accident so that his family could collect on his $2.5 million life insurance policy. Oh, gee, okay, that took a turn. A little bit of a turn. And the reason he chose the weapons that he did was because in the wreckage of the plane,
Starting point is 00:41:57 it would have been almost impossible to tell that those things had been used to assault the crew. There was an FBI investigator that literally said, had they found all those things in the wreckage, there would have been no way that they could have tied that to a hijacking and tied those items to an assault on the crew. It would have just looked like, you know, they suffered a plane crash. You know, if they found the bodies, you can't really discern a hammer blow from, well, just the trauma of a plane crash. Yeah, yeah, like, that's a good point. Death from blood,
Starting point is 00:42:35 should I make a good point, death from blunt force trauma would be much more in line with dying from a plane crash as opposed to, you know, a bullet wound. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And the bullet wound leaves residual marks of a bullet wound. It leaves all this other stuff. And so... They might find a gun on the... They might find the wreckage of a gun, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:52 even though if I'm not mistaken... So it's very easy to be like, oh yeah, you know, obviously he was shot. But if they find speargun and some hammers and a, you know, a guitar carry-on, you don't really think...
Starting point is 00:43:04 different. Yeah. And the issue with the cockpit voice recorder we talked about earlier, that was Calloway slinking into the cockpit alone to make sure that it wasn't recording. Though it has been noted that if Calloway had successfully taken over the plane, all he would have had to do was fly the plane for another 30 minutes. A new recording starts and kind of erases the old one. And, you know, it's not really a big deal that Andy. Peterson noticed it and flipped it back on. It's not like something he couldn't recover from. I also saw in that documentary that initially this flight was supposed to have Calloway on the crew. Initially, he was supposed to be the flight engineer, and I think it was only going to be a two-person crew, like him, the pilot, and maybe a co-pilot. So it would have been so much easier for Calloway to handle a two-person crew rather than, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:07 the three-crew rambo that he ended up getting. That's a good point. He didn't necessarily realize that kind of level, I guess. Yeah. Or like, like two people is still a hard thing to do, but he could have gotten away with two. Yeah, with two.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I mean, he probably could have gotten away with it. He almost got away with three. Yeah, almost. But the reason that didn't have. happened was that Calloway's crew had like just barely gone over their allotted flight hours for the week, so they had
Starting point is 00:44:40 to be replaced. The documentary said he went over it by like a minute, but I have a hard time believing they'd replace a crew over one minute. I don't know if that's true, but that's what the documentary said anyway. But Calloway was like dead set that
Starting point is 00:44:56 this was the time. This is the place. This is when I'm going out. I will accept no subsist. I'll just deadhead that flight anyway. And on August 11th, 1995, Calloway was sentenced to two consecutive life sentences for attempted air piracy and interference with flight crew. No attempted murder? Uh, no attempted murder, actually. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I guess maybe he was just trying to knock him out and not. Yeah, I guess, yeah. And because those are federal charges, you get no possibility for parole. You get nothing. Good day, sir. Yep, you do not pass go. You do not collect $500. You stole fizzy lifting drinks.
Starting point is 00:45:47 What they did to the plane. He tried pleading temporary insanity, but with all the obvious planning he had to do for it, the notes they found, and all the evidence clearly pointed that he must have been somewhat of sense. sound mind to plan and enact this, the jury didn't believe it. Yeah, no, he, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, uh, he was, uh, he was, uh, he was, uh, he was, uh, vacated, because there's, like this big legalese document you can read about it. And I, I, not great with legalese, but it kind of sounded like, well, you're going to get two consecutive life sentences regardless. So the lesser charge is interference with the flight crew. The big charge is air piracy, so whatever. We'll just vacate that last charge. But I'm not super sure about that. I just know that
Starting point is 00:46:48 the interference with flight crew was actually vacated. And although none of the flight crew were ever able to be physically cleared to fly again after the insane injuries that they sustained, they were all awarded with the gold medal for heroism, which is the absolute
Starting point is 00:47:10 highest honor a civilian pilot can earn. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, they definitely deserve the highest award and the highest praise available for just yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah, that that's absolutely wild. I mean, I don't really, I don't really know how else to describe that. It is genuinely absolutely wild. And also clearly, well, just clearly like, I don't know. Like, how do you handle that in any other situation? Yeah, I, I, shi said, D.K., the court paper literally says, finally, we note that a reversal of the kids conviction would make little practical difference in any event. Okay, so that's kind of what I thought.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Like, it's two life sentences regardless. You know, you're still getting air piracy no matter what. So, yeah, sure, we'll nuke that last charge, but it doesn't matter. You're still getting two life convictions. Who cares? You get it. You're getting life. Just making sure that I understood it right, because there was like a bunch of, like,
Starting point is 00:48:17 legalese before that, and I wasn't sure if I was, you know, because I'm a little slow, you know. That is a serious, like, um, uh, crime. doesn't pay situation. Like, not only did it not work for him, but like, it got literally the exact opposite of what he wanted to get done. His family gets no money.
Starting point is 00:48:37 He doesn't get to die. He gets to rot in jail forever. Yep. Like, God. And clearly, he's still rotten in jail, too. Well,
Starting point is 00:48:44 clearly that photo above, he is like, like, that is a crying, crying man. See, I don't, that's,
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think that's him on the way to trial. And I'm not sure if he's trying to, like, yuck it up for, like, oh, look, I'm insane. See, look at me. I'm clearly out of my mind. Oh, you know? Oh, I don't know. I think, I think he's, I think he's genuinely just like, I don't, he, that, that looks like actual, like, real, real good tears right there. He's, he knows he's done. He's cooked. He's spent the rest of his life in jail. Yep. Yeah. So, I mean, I would, you know, I'd probably also be a little, be a little crying there myself. Yeah, probably. But, but. hey, this is, you reap what you sow. You do. This is, you know, this, you, you would base, you actually, it's not, see, it's not as, as, as his, as his reasoning was.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And how, and while his reasonings seemed selfless and stuff, he still attempted to murder three other individuals. Yep, he sure did. And, like, it's not just about like, all the self-sacrifice for his family. It's like, no, no, no, he was going to drive that plane into the fucking floor and murder three people. Yep, and they're not sure where exactly he would have flown that plane into either. Because the best source I had was this documentary Shai gave me, and that was pretty much my main source, because they literally interviewed the flight crew, and the flight crew was just like, oh yeah, here's what happened, here's what happened, here's what happened, here's an FBI investigator to corroborate what they're saying. And they were like, yeah, he might have actually thought about flying that thing into the Federal Express HQ. because, you know, kind of ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:50:29 So they're not entirely sure, but it was like, yeah, it could have been like a pseudo 9-11 event where he just rammed that thing into the Federal Express HQ and just, you know. And yet there are all of those people fairly recently. All of them survived. All of them are doing well. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I got to give a shout out for my boy, Dave Sanders with that mustache. Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah, brother. Oh, Dave Sanders still has. He's a FedEx plane behind him. Yeah, he does. He does.
Starting point is 00:51:05 He does. Yeah, none of them were ever able to fly again because they're injuries, though. That's fine, dude. I am just happy they all survived because I am, I was shocked that as I was reading up on this, I was shocked that they all survived. I was shocked that they were, you know, know, able to interview all of them. I was just like, surely one of them because of those crazy injuries had to have, but they're all still kicking and good for them. I wish them nothing but
Starting point is 00:51:35 happiness in a long life because wow, what a thing to have to endure. But what a bunch of Chads. What? Yeah. That is, ooh, I could never. I would have crumpled like a wet tissue paper. That's genuinely shocking stuff right there. I did not expect it to be at that level of, I don't know, most of these end poorly. And this only ended poorly till for one person. Yep. And, you know, um, it ended with three heroes being born. Well, I guess they already were, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Rip Bozo. Rip Bozo get wrecked. Mm-hmm. So that's, that's it. That's flight 705. How you doing? That's wild. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:21 That's actually wild. It's insane. There's a lot of twist and turns there in general, but also just... Also, the plane, right, was twisting and turning. Yeah, speaking of, also the plane was very much twisting and turning. Masterful piloting on every level. Masterful piloting, masterful fighting? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:52:44 With a severed artery. And a hole in your head. And a fist-sized hole in your head? It's crazy. Jeez. Yeah, that's good. That's pretty damn impressive. I'm,
Starting point is 00:52:59 I'm genuinely surprised by that whole thing. Genuinely surprised, genuinely so impressed. Yeah. Good, good on those folks. God, damn. Hell yeah. Good on them. Woo. Take us home, country road.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I mean, God, I mean, how do you end this one? You know, like, I kind of want shy to like make the, like, the ending bit of the podcast is just the screen, but it starts, like, rotating. at a massive speed because like barrel rolls
Starting point is 00:53:28 yeah the point we're going oh see you next time wow when you think when you think about though
Starting point is 00:53:43 in the back when they were all fighting and he was twisting the plane it was just never ending yeah there probably was actually
Starting point is 00:53:49 quite a bit yeah all right fine all right all right see you next time see you next time yeah

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