Adeptus Ridiculous - PRIMARCH TIER LIST | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

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Welcome everyone to another episode of The Adeptus Ridiculous Podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantis, his name is Bricky, and what's that? Carry us here again. We'll tell you more about it soon. But right after these words from not quite our sponsors, uh, if you enjoy today's episode of the podcast, feel free to maybe support us over at patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous where you can get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen. The $15 tier gets you access to all.

of our posters in crispy, uh, HD digital format. It's a hoot. There is a poster in the works that, boy, I am so ready for Bricky to see. But more on that later. Uh, patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Okay. Oh, yeah, also I forgot. Um, so he's graduated from the walls, right?

Kereoth? No, he's still in there. I don't know that we're ready for that step. I think just a temporary, I've just got my face sticking out for some fresh air, and then I'll go back in. Why don't you love me, Kyriath? Why won't you take any commitment? Why won't you try to take this relationship seriously?

So my... Once a month. Right? You have to understand where my head is. When you said, oh yeah, my head's just kind of sticking out of the wall. My first thought was, big brother, help. My head stuck in the wall. And it just went downhill from there.

So... That actually does not surprise me at all. I don't know whether you'd be glad to know that or not. I think probably you're at this point, You're just assuming that I would guess that you would go that way, but you've made it. You're there. Truly, we've needed it. A part of me is proud that you know me so well.

And then there's a part of me that's like, yikes. That's me. So, you've got to make the best of it, right? Yeah, sure. So, speaking, making the best of it, so today, normally you might be like, I'm bad, Rick, Kiryoth is supposed to come out once a month. I can't handle two weeks in a row of Kiryoth. But this time around, because we have finally,

it only took us two plus years to get through all the primarks in Warhammer. Why not do a Primark tier list? And it just kind of felt wrong to leave Kiryoth out of this one because he also brings in some thought process and expertise that I and definitely DK do not have. What do you mean definitely not? What is that? Why am I catching strays?

What happened? Expertise. You're so strongly as well. There's a lot of heavy lifting going on with that word. What you mean? Definitely not me. I have skills. If Kiryath can catch strays, so can you.

All right. We're equal opportunity in this podcast. You know, that's fair. Also, Shai makes a good point. You're not catching stray. She's shooting you in the face. That's true. Shai has the gun pointed right at my nose and she's like, yeah, I don't care.

Boom. So Shai has a couple rules that she wanted to do. in terms of the whole episode. Place your best live chat on how long it takes us to absolutely forget these rules and just do our own thing. Well, let's see. DK, would you like to read Shai's rules since you're catching strays like this? Yeah, sure, sure. So, we are doing prime arthur list for these lists.

I propose instead of having one list we argue about, we each have our own list based on our own metrics. Like who are the most interesting prime marks personally to you, best written, overall popularity in the community, important in universe. I say we each pick their own basis for giving grades and stick to them. I propose we go with primarks one by one. Each of us discuss where he goes on our personal list and why and then move on to the next primark. Shai will be using her own metrics, which is murder. Who is the best based on amount of murder? murder and also quality of murder.

S tier goes to good murderers. F tier goes to, as she says, Pussies. The results might surprise you. All right. So we're getting four tier lists out of this one, three individualized ones and one based on level of murder. Yeah. I don't know what I want to base my tier list on. Like, I don't know what metric I want to be bu, bu.

Most likely to worship cat girls. I don't know. I mean, it's really totally up to you. Hey, most likely to worship cat girls? Wow, Karioth. You have been spending too much time in this, in this podcast. You know me quite well. Hey, hey. All right. I'll have to buy you those Razor Cat Girl LED headphones. Kierreya? I will wear them. I will wear them in videos. I don't care. I, you know, I used to do face cam streams and I unironically wore. them because I was a sad human being that wanted views more than anything.

Some things, some things never change. Oh, well, I guess I still am, but I don't wear the, also they're just terrible headphones and they died after like less than a year. Old habits die hard, as they say. Yeah, well, what are you going to do? So, so, so, so, so, so. What are we all? let's get into our list making fiasco.

I'm going to call it a fiasco, because that's kind of how it's starting off, right? So, so, so, so, so, so Ricky, how are, how are you, uh, ranking our prime marks? So, I mean, I feel like, I, I feel like if, if you and shy are going to be doing your own thing, I feel like one of us has to be the straight man here, has to just kind of be like default load out a general prime mark tier list so I might just do this normally to have like a little bit of a metric

okay there's nothing wrong with that Kiryath uh how about you you're the wild card now uh I mean for me probably it's this is the most boring of whatever we go with but I for me most relatable I guess most like no no no no no Kyriath no you need to do which primark would make the best tank Like if the, like which of these primarks, if converted into a tank, would be the best one. Actually, that's quite a good. That's, that's quite a good call. I think that's what you should do. All right. I mean, considering that you are the vehicle guy.

Yeah. All right. Which primark would make the best tank? All of their aspirations. If the primarks were transformers is what I'm doing, essentially. Yes. Yes. Oh, good call. Phenomenal.

Yes. And what would they transform? into, that needs to be on your tier list too. Okay, right. So apparently I'm doing a tier list of which ones would worship cat girls? I mean, there's only, but you do not have to do that. Do not. There's a better one, D.K., which one would be the best Twitch streamer, but like, like, the cat, the cat girl headphone Twitch streamer.

Hey, yo, which Primark would make the best V-tuber? Let's go, dude. Hey, hey, that's topical. That's topical right now. Especially for you. That's super topical. All right. All right.

Let's do it. All right. So here we go. Here we go. So we have a bricky normal tier list. Regular primarkle stuff. Shy, who is the best at murder? Specifically murder.

Not like warfare. Murder. D.K. is which one would be the best V-tuber. Kirillot is if these were transformers, which would make the best vehicle tank thing. All right. Okay. We also talked about it earlier.

Do we want S through F or how many rows of this do we actually want? I'm going S-A-B-C. I'm only going to go with the four. Okay. S-A-B-C. So, okay, let me just mark those off of the... Oh, Shai's using all the letters. She's going S-through F.

I guess I'll keep all of them, too. So we're all just going to... So we're going to start with Fulgram? You know what? I think we should go in a legion order. Oh, I don't. You're going to have to tell me which one is first and which one we're doing, and then you're going to have to leave this off, dude.

Have I taught you nothing? Well, look, look, I see the names. I know the names. I know what they're about. I just, I don't remember which one's first and which one is however many there are because I can't count. Not by just like making it alphabetical order. That would make it so much easier to keep track of. You know, Alfarious first legion.

I would make it so easy. But no, they had to make it complicated, didn't they? also i i did not realize that lionel i didn't realize that l johnson was one word i thought it was like lion middle name e l last name johnson like j o h n what what what an incredible topical thing for you to say there dk because the first legion is the dark angels which are going to be lion l johnson hey look at me i i i knew i knew see i was just i'm you're you're playing the straight man i'm playing and the yuckster. Yeah, right?

It's all an act. I'm not actually that stupid. You, okay. Well, okay. Well, in that case, Lionel Johnson. I think, uh, I think there's a lot of interesting, interesting options here. Um, I, uh, you know, you know what? I'm going to read Shies one this time around because you read that thing earlier.

Yeah, yeah. Start with hers. Sure. So L. Johnston, very killy. Killed a shitload of beasts on Calaband Tarzan style. Kill people left and right. in the Great Crusade, gaining notoriety as a wolf in sheep's clothing, because there was a crazy killer behind his aristocratic, Jesus, facade, oversaw several genocides, personally like the Rangdon genocides,

dulyman Russ and backsteaded him like a pussy, though, so that's minus two. Beat the shit out of Carmack Curse, but then again, who didn't, wanted to nuke Ultramar, which is a great idea for me personally, but didn't. After his return, he kind of mellowed down, but he did kill Angron 1V1, which is neat. Overall, pretty killy, but kind of flip-flopped a lot for my time. taste. So B rank. L. Johnson, the B rank for murder.

B rank for murder? I might at least give him an A. Like, I feel like he's not S tier for the reasons that you mentioned. Like, if he had nuked Ultramar, he'd be S tier on my list forever and always, right? But still very killy. I feel like he's an A, right? For Killy? This is Shies ranking. I would have put him in A because he was like the Emperor's Exterminator and all that kind of stuff.

but he did flip-flop and he has mellowed out. He has chilled his ass out a lot with some of the forest. That's true. And if you're going straight murder, not new king a planet, that is a lot less murder than you could have committed. So that really takes it down a notch. Like it has to be purely. Shia's response to our conversation about this, don't fucking mansplain murder to me. That's true.

We're only, we're only, um, uh, uh, uh, students in the master. Yeah, we're students of the game. Shai was born in it. You know what? All right. I think this is the way we should go. All of these, it should go top to bottom.

So every time it's a new primark, it'll go shy, D.K. Kierreuth, and then I'll round it out with like a normal opinion. Okay. All right. D.K., you're up. I don't know about you, but I think Lionel Johnson would make an absolutely terrible V-Tuber. Like, he's just good leader. Now, well, I don't know, like early Lionel would be like a rage tuber and he'd play like a lot of like ragey games like super meat boy and then just like annihilate his screen and yell at all the chatters and just be like a rager.

Current L. Johnson like, you know, I could I could see him being a pretty solid. Yeah, he would like early day Lionel Johnson would totally say slurs and like try and hack him. you for sure. And he'd like go after your family. I feel like he wouldn't even understand. I feel like he just like, why am I like, why am I doing this? This is stupid. Why, why don't I show my own face so they could have fear so they can be frightened about me?

I don't know. Well, he would be like a like one of those demon tubers, right? That that has like the, the, they have like the normal face and they have a toggle where it just like opens up and it's just like this gaping moth from the depths of hell that's just like spewing out eyeballs and blood everywhere and just staring into your soul. He'd probably be that, you know, just to make everybody mad. But like current Lionel, he'd probably just be a normal, like, I guess I'm going to chill on Minecraft today, everybody, and have just a very kind of, you know,

I mean, you're not going to have like a... So where are you putting him? B. B it is. That's the second B. All right. Curious. Remarkably consistent so far.

Also, I almost choked a death twice there. First, I just wasn't pretty... Even though we discussed it beforehand, I wasn't ready for the Lionel Johnson, if he was a V-Tuber. I just wasn't ready for that intro at all. I am so glad you said it when you did, because I was literally about to take a sip of my drink,

and I would have spit it out. Go ahead. It got me in a bad way. All right. So, big thing, big thing with the Dark Angels, they've got a very sort of, they've got like a sort of knightly look, haven't they? There's, it's kind of like a proper,

knightly order, they literally have fortresses, all that sort of thing. Really, if you're going to, properly embody that, even though, even though we're talking, you know, mechanized, mechanized type vehicles, it would have to be some sort of trebiche. Good, but not quite, not quite good enough for the time that he's in, I think. Did you ever see the film Battleship? And if the answer is yes, I'm really sorry, because it's awful. Oh, God. The Lee Leeson. boat one? Oh yeah, terrible film. Oh my God. Really bad. I think I saw it, but I like erased it from my mind. It's honestly hard not to. It's like the body tries to reject it when you try and think about what actually happened in that film. It had like weird robo tentacles and stuff and the battleships had to

like fight them or something. It was it was a whole mess. World War II battleship versus aliens and obviously the battleship wins because it's battleship. But the alien ship had this weird thing where instead of just firing like normal guns, it wound up big balls like full of spikes and stuff and then launch them at people. I reckon Lionel Johnson, that sort of thing.

Trebyshe style warfare, but tracked massive armour, not a real tank, just something that wants to be old school and also grim dark at the same time. Fun, but horrendously impractical. So also a bee. Also a bee.

Oh man. Stylish. but not necessarily properly functional. Okay, okay. Lions is the one kind of catching strays now, getting thrown into the beat here? Damn. Well, I wish I could continue that specific concept,

but I'm probably not going to in this situation. From a regular perspective, I think Lionel Johnson is pretty okay during the heresy era, but he's a bit one note. He's very much like the absolute just pure murderer of anyone the emperor deems uncool and he's he's constantly like he's kind of like chafed often about a lot of how everyone else acts and he's just a real dick um but then then then he's just a real asshole uh but then he comes back and son like i would honestly agree i would put him in b normally

with the rest of you but i think son of the forest throws him up to an a for me i think i think having him come back and have to deal with the ramifications of some of his actions and also, you know, be this like savior to his, uh, to his sons that have been chased their whole lives by his other sons is just, it's interesting. It's a, it's an interesting dynamic. So I'll be, I'll be, I'll be honest. I have to be a little bit more of a, uh, I think he deserves A now. I think he's moved his way up. Yeah. I, I would agree. Honestly, like with, with, no other weird stipulations or anything if I was just like, oh, how was he

as a, yeah, I'd put him at A, specifically like you said, because Sons of the Forest was really good, and it painted him in a very good light, and he is still a stone cold killer, despite being you know, a little old. That's true. All right, uh,

Second Legion. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Who's the second Legion, Bricky? Whoever you wanted to be. S-tier. Oh, Alferius, huh? Yes, tier it is. Yeah, like, listen, you can't tell me that Alfarious wouldn't make an amazing streamer period. D-K., you fucking dungest, the second legion is the erased legion.

What does that mean? They just don't exist? Yeah, no, there isn't one. I can't do this. I can't do this. No, look, I knew I was just... D-K, buddy! No, wait, hey, let me explain.

There might be... some new viewers to add, Rick, that have never seen an episode, and they don't know this yet. And I am, I have always been the voice of the voiceless. So I just want to make sure that they, that they get it. They might not know. I knew I was just making, so what's the next prime mark? Kieryath, what's the next primark? I don't, I don't think Bricky's going to talk to me again. I'm running away from the stream. I'm out of here. I don't, I genuinely thought we were making Alvarez's joke because he's like, you know, he's so sneaky. Kiriop.

It's like, it's fine. It's right. Also, can you imagine if this is the first episode someone chooses? That is a hardcore way to enter this podcast. Well, I mean, that is the legendary move by them. To be, tearless get pushed by algorithms more. This might be. It's true.

Welcome. And yeah. So. This might actually be. All right. Third Legion is, uh, T'an,

Kirov. Full grim. Oh. Ever children, buddy. Ever children. All right. Shy, you start us off. Folgram.

You, DK, you read this one. Okay. Folgram, Primarks killed. Killed Ferris. Yeah, he definitely got ahead of that one. And multiple clones. Killed Gilliman, forcing him to be resurrected by Eldar God of death. Killed Percharaba by draining power from him to ascend to godhood,

forcing Perchrabbo to become demon Primark to avoid death. generally not very killy preferring sex before marriage which isn't cool got killed by some rando tin can with a pipe bomb still considering the amount of primar kills has to go S tier for murder yeah that's fair the the amount of primar kills is definitely a good a good portion of this one basically yeah I feel like a body count literally and figuratively yeah I do like how Shai says he got killed by some Rando tin can with a pipe

bomb. That's a little skimming the surface a little bit you know, you know, it is. S-tier from her is pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'll go with that. D-K, how good it will Folgram be at being a V-tuber? Bro, he would be S-tier. Are you kidding me?

This guy would play the game. Like, you could get him to do the ARA-A, you could get him to do an O-Wo voice, you could get him to post-cursed memes like oh my god if fulgram had a model

it would be the most cursed fucking thing ever and it would have the craziest toggles there'd probably be a nude toggle

there'd probably be a tentacle toggle like fulgram would play the game although I feel like fulgram probably s

but I also feel like fulgram would be the quickest to get kicked off of like Twitch and become like

a cringy IRrr streamer or something I was gonna say there's no way be so controversial? There's no way that he wouldn't, after a few years, have some hefty, like, hefty cancellation going on. There's just no way. He would probably get canceled really quick, but he wouldn't, he would never release an apology video. He would just, like, he would just stand

behind his debauchery and his hatred and yeah, yeah, but still, he'd probably be an S tier. Yeah, he would definitely turn into a kick streamer that would, like, he would just stand into a kick streamer that would like walk around the street with like their phone and he might have a bodyguard and you know he would just be like ah you suck and then his bodyguard would come in and yeah yep that's fair shy that's fair yep yeah but s tier it'd be one hell of a watch but yeah s tier i'm still reading from all of that so i reckon am i wrong you're not wrong i don't like how accurate that feels that's the problem it feels it feels too real and too like just something that occurs that are because too much.

It's not, it's like, it's made its way into real life. I, I feel like, I don't, I think like Fulgroom

would be an absolutely terrible tank of any description. There'd be too much orientation. I'm glad we were the same, the same mental thought process with that one. Oh,

it would, it would be bad. There would be, there would be a lot of guns, but they'd all be really, like, they would all be like massively ineffective. They'd either be all,

like, too short, ranged or he would only have artillery and nothing else, but he would insist on being right on the front lines. It would be the kind of convoluted sort of design where, no matter where you shoot it, somehow it gets bounced into a weak spot because he likes that sort of thing. It would just be a disaster from start to finish. Honestly, he would also cover it in spikes and flails and stuff. Like, he would have a bunch of melee-esque things. going on, but he wouldn't have the armor to withstand any sort of close assault. So he's going

F, he's going F tier. Yeah. Honestly, like, I kind of thought that he would literally, like, if he transformed into something, it would be literally a glass cannon where it's like a super effective killy cannon, but like, if you hit it right, the whole thing just shatters. But very, very good stopping power, but yeah. But only once. Get one shot off. and then that'll be it. But again, Glass Cannon, he will absolutely F you up, though. Once he gets in range. Yeah.

Speaking, so Fulgrim, I got to be honest, I like Fulgrim. I think I've grown on Fulgrim a little bit. He's got some, I don't know if maybe it's like writer issue, but he has a lot of inconsistency. I think that Fulgram as a character is definitely one of those people that's like, okay, you can get really fascinating with him and what he's into and like and then of course he's got a ton of really important aspects between the gilliman putting him in the stasis field and then you have you know killing ferris manis he's got he's got a lot of uh important stuff but he's also written a bit strangely sometimes that i think there's just like different writers and that kind of jazz yeah but i actually i probably would put fulgram

in a as well i actually i actually think i would put fulgram about up there i don't think i don't think i like really hate him or anything. I think he's, I think he's got some great personality. That's the thing though, right? A prime mark is generally based on, on their personality as a character. And that's, yeah, that's where you add a bit, a bit to it. So I like him. I think he's okay. I think from a normal standpoint. Oh, go ahead, Curia. I was just going to say, I, I think if he was more consistent, he would be, he would be that step higher. But I think you're right with like different authors and stuff. He sometimes feels like he has conflicting personalities going on from book to book here and there. And it doesn't ever sort of come into like one cohesive bit. It's just like

he just always is a little bit not quite like right compared to what he was before. And it, I think you're right. I think he's just like not, he's good. He's just not the best good. Yeah. I think when you have a character that has such a level of personality, can do really well or sometimes not. And I think they mostly do well. Yeah. I'd give him a high A because, like, he's really cool. And he has a lot of, like, really dope stories that he's a part of, like, all the ones you said.

And then there's the Rylanor thing. There's, oh, he's stuck in the painting. No, I'm not. That's just one of my kinks. So, yeah, high A. He's cool. He's cool. I like him.

Yeah. All right. All right. Next up, the Fourth Legion. Oh, God, Shy. That is hideous. Wow. I knew they were doing that with cars.

I didn't realize someone wrapped a tank like that. But yeah, that's the Folgram tank, all right. Sure, sure. Wait, okay. D.K., I'm going to have to ask you to understand which the Fourth Legion is. I don't. You say the Fourth Legion? He's typing. It's Pritcheroblo.

He won't let him do it. War hammer. Wait, wait, no. What do you mean? I was, it was completely unrelated. I refuse to let you have a win. How could you hear that? You normally never hear my keyboard.

It was because you were talking at the same time. Because you were doing, you were doing the bit, but it meant that the key taps taken through. Oh, no. Iron Warriors, Fourth Legion. Damn. Shy. Release your murder.

And Kiroeth will go in a line. You can read her murder, uh, murder, murder, uh, murder, opinions on, on good old purrity. Okay. Pertarabot when arrived to the planet drew in compliance

in the Great Crusade, he would say, tell them ruin has come to their world, death, despair, and red war. Tell them their hopes and pride have come to nothing. Tell them their empty whispers fall upon deaf ears. Their gods are dead.

Human reason has killed them. Tell them the angels of death have come. Tell them nothing can save them now. Killed Fulgram. Oh, shit. I know, hardcore. Killed Fulgrim, but he ascended to chaos right after that. So, yeah.

Killed his own people, cool. Killed his own sister, relatable. Was the only competent leader in the Horace heresy and personally responsible for billions of deaths. Almost killed Rogel Dorn. Built an Iron Man suit with himself, but cooler because he actually used it to shoot people with giant machine guns. Purdy has to be at least a tier on the murder scale.

Yeah, that's pretty hardcore. Yeah, I'm pretty good with A tier. Yeah, I'm pretty good with A tier on that one. I feel like he's not just indiscriminate levels of murder, but he's pretty darn good with it. So A tier sounds pretty good. D-K, I know this is not going to go well. So, look, I feel like there is a chance he'd be an okay V-tuber, because he'd probably have like a tricked-out setup. Like his PC, like, he'd have like the dual PC setup.

he'd have like the craziest model with the craziest toggles and it'd be very great but i feel like he would not be a good streamer uh i feel like he would fall into that category of whoops uh i i said some very bad things and nobody wants to watch me anymore and why is everybody canceling me i'm right genocide is great all of you were wrong um so maybe as a v probably he probably being like f tier just because it wouldn't last long. It would be one hell of a setup, but I feel like he's another one that would probably smash his whole setup because he got mad because, I don't know, Twitch decided to ban him

for him being like, yeah, I murdered 20,000 people and I'd do it again, you pussies. Or something like that, you know? He 100% has the energy of someone who would start streaming, five minutes in start arguing with one person in the chat, and then never recover. but it would happen every single time. And then the people would realize, would realize that he's easily upset by things like this.

Yes. Yes, I was about. I was about to say he's, he's that guy that focuses on the one comment that was like, you're a boring streamer, and he just gets so petulant about it, that the stream would derail, he'd go off on like a racist tangent and then threaten to, like,

docs and find your family or something. And it'd be like, all right, Perchirapo, chill the fuck out, dude. Like, you gotta, yeah, yeah, maybe F-tier streamer probably. Or F-tier V-tuber, yeah, yeah. That being said, though, Kyriath, I mean, if anyone on this list is S-tier, it's got to be him, right?

It's got to be him. I feel like he already has, he already has, like, a form in that, well, I mean, technically, yeah, Shire's right, He's already a tank, and he already has multiple options covered. He's got long range. He's got a short range. He's just basically the embodiment of what the Bainblade is. I mean, he just is.

He would be that. That's all he would be. And given that the Bainblade and the various, you know, Bain and Sword chassis vehicles are arguably the best things in 40K, it's got to be S tier. Every single time. He's quality. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm not. I honestly can't argue with that. There's only one other person that is an obvious S-tier and we'll get to him later. I mean, you know, you know, Per Chirabo's interesting.

I'm trying to like differentiate how much I like Perchirabo and how much I like Perchrabbo memes. You know? Because I like him, but I like him because he's just so petulant. And it's funny to me, but I don't know if it necessarily translates to him being written really well. you know

he just have his moments though like in the whole buildup to you know full grim draining a bunch of his a bunch of his vitality to make himself a demon primark like he there's like a nice little sort of I don't know it felt like there's a bit of a bromance going on there

there was a bit more depth than you than you got from him sometimes when he you know was largely just being sulky and upset about everything plus is he is it being too petulant if he wants to make nice stuff and every time he makes something nice

someone goes and now we're going to use this arena to cause a horrific rift amongst all of your brothers I don't know I feel like he's there that justifies it a little bit you know I would agree

but I'm also thinking like iron cage stuff where he just kind of like leaves and he's like come here Dorn you want to you want to do this idiot come check out my big cage and I'll laugh Like, he's just, yeah, okay, that's fair. That's totally fair. Yeah.

I, it's just after reading his like book, he just, he came off as a little bit of a little turbo tryhard. Like his whole like, uh, arguing with like a priest like a priest as like a teenager and being like, gods don't make any sense because that's stupid. And there's no logic to them. Like he actually argued like like a redditor. And some people are like, that's points to me. And some people are like, that's points to make him better. And some people are like, that's points to make him worse. And it's a little tough.

Yeah. For me, it's an argument between A and B, but I feel like, I feel like I might put him in B, like top of B. I don't know if he fully gets there for me, but like,

God, he's so funny. You know, I wonder how much, like, I wonder how much of him is, ooh, uh,

what a, like, what a character he had, um, he is based on the small joking bits of versus actually what a character he is. That makes any sense. Yeah, no, I see that.

I get that. Okay. That's not an idea. All right, DK, Fifth Legion. Um, so I've already stated, I don't, I don't know the numbers. Like, I know, I know all of these people and stuff they do. I just, I don't, I didn't remember the numbers.

Love spikes. How about that? Absolutely loves bikes. Oh, that's got to be con. It's got to be white scar, right? He's got to be Mr. Con. He did it. He did it. Congratulations.

Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah. Let's go. White Scars in the con. Hell yeah. I'm not going to lie. I actually forgot that the Six Legion was the con. The six one evaded me.

That is what we call getting God smacked, my friend. That's true. That's karma. I believe it's me reading this one. Go for it. Con. He's pretty high on the list since his, since his, since his when his dad

We'll go with that Was killed by a A little typo laugh at this user Was killed by a rival tribe He has a child tracked that tribe down And killed every man, woman and child And burned the place to the ground He then conquered his entire planet

By offering people two choices Surrender or I kill every single one of you Those who refused were slaughtered And their heads displayed on pikes He killed a shitload of people during the crusade And when Tara was under siege When anyone whined about a hopeless situation He kicked them out of the imperial palace

To certain death for being a bitch overall he's pretty killy but not quite S tier especially with Zero Prime-R kills so A tier it is Fair Fair and valid The white scars were referred to as the laughing killers So I think that actually works out pretty well

Mm-hmm I go with that I feel like he'd be a terrible streamer Because he touched Like con just seems like the person That touches grass too much And you just You know

Like he's always out riding his bike And he's always out like doing the sort of con thing, speeding around. He's got, like, lots of friends that he hangs out with, loves his boys, loves biking around. I feel like he touches too much grass. He's too cool with being outside and normal. Like, he'd be, he probably wouldn't understand how to stream. You know, he would do IRL travel streams.

Yeah, but that's not the same as being like a V-tuber or the streamer. Like, he just touches too much grass. Like, yeah, he would do IRL streams. He would be kind of like. He would do van life, but like van life, but like van life. for a 130 miles an hour. Yes, and that would be great, too. I don't know what, I just,

I love those, like, stealth camping van videos. I don't know what it is about them. But, yeah, I don't think he'd make a great, like, Twitch streamer, though. He's the sort of person, like. I put him in, like, the low C, maybe not an F, because there's potential, but no.

I feel like, He would have the sort of channel that you discover whilst looking for something else where it's a thousand videos and it's like daily vlogs of just him on his bike and each one of them has got about 10 views and you end up watching all of them and you're not really sure why.

And you're not sure why he's uploading them because he's never directly talking to the camera. It's just there. It's just there as he goes around his daily life. Sure. Great Van Life YouTube. tuber, great IRL tuber, but as a streamer, he's probably low C. Oh, dear, this, I'll be honest, this is kind of difficult.

I feel like just pure speed-wise, surely he would turn it, surely he would turn into something just absurdly fast. It's just whether it would also be good. For some reason, I'm thinking, I'm thinking literally the weird bike drones from Terminator Salvation. I don't know why I've apparently got terrible, like, film. on the brain at the moment, but I sort of have. That sort of extremely fast, very lightweight, very maneuverable.

I'd probably, probably, like, probably A-tier, some sort of flanking vehicle that does a lot of, a lot of hit and run is extremely maneuverable. Yeah, Jess, actually, yeah, Jet, Jet's a good call. Something not flashy, but effective. Yeah, basically. Oh, Star Scream is one of my favorites if Congo's start. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

I'm going to say A for Kahn. Although he's not a petulant, he's not a petulant whiny baby enough to be a Star Scream. That's kind of an insult to Kahn, actually. Yeah, he's very serious. I feel like he's quite like, quite like the straight man. Yeah, definitely, definitely. You know, I feel like, I feel like Kahn isn't the exact same thing as, as Per Chirabo. No, actually maybe not like that, but like the Kahn, it doesn't have as much as I would like character-wise.

I think he's really neat He's got a lot of great Style and concepts And I love his ability to not immediately make Brash decisions and think like a normal fucking person And just be Like you know fast fast guy with all of his You know not having to go out there for glory and craziness

But in a way that makes him Not like dull but he just doesn't have a lot going on I feel like he's got a little bit of like a lack of lore sometimes. He's guys like books and stuff, but he's not particularly like fascinating about them. So I was kind of thinking B as well for Kahn, you know? He's not like bad or anything, but he's just like,

yeah, you know, it's just a solid B. Kahn's neat. Kahn's interesting. For some people he really does well for you. Like you really get into the con, but for some people you really just don't get into the con. Just needs more. He needs just a little bit more. I think he needs a couple more stories that kind of show his his internal strife. Once he returns, I think Khan will prop himself up

to like an AS. But yeah, I think right now B is probably, yeah, the best he's going to get. Just in need a more material overall. A bit more material. A bit more material showing how he deals with conflict. Yeah. Yeah. When the conflict does not

involve him going really, really fast and murdering people at that same speed. That's, yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Number seven. Six. Six. Yeah. Who, who, who? Yeah. Colum's five. Oh, crap. Six. My bad. Sorry. Okay. I thought we were on set. I thought we were on six. My bad. Yeah. That's okay. I still don't know who six is. I don't. Who's six? I know who seven is. I know who seven is.

Who seven's Mortarian, right? That's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, oh my God, Kyrioth. shy. Put him in a goddamn trunk of a car off a clip. No, really? He's not? I thought it was! No, it's fine. No, just, just, it's fine.

We're going to pretend that didn't happen. We'll just move on, move on. Number six, number six. Good God, get us out of here. Lehman Ross, Space Wolves. Mm-hmm. I was going to say if six was Mortarian, I would have flipped shit. Lehman Russ, the Space Wolves.

D.K. you're up. Space wolves. Um, actually, I think he'd make a great streamer. You dumb, you dumbo, read Shai's thing. Oh, oh, oh, listen. You can, all right, anyway. Shai says, Russ, absolute madman, opens up with two lost Primark kills, which puts him right into S-tier immediately,

but he doesn't stop there, as he also pulls a Bain backbreaker on Magnus, stabbed Horace, defeated Angron, aside from Primark Casual. he was a ferocious warrior and kicked a lot of ass left and right so s tier it is yeah i think russ is definitely an s tier murderer i don't think that's up for debate right yeah definitely yeah yeah no i mean that that's pretty clear it's it's leiman russ of all the people for sure also also those first two primar kills are allegedly allegedly theorized but still what he did on Prospero and backbreaking Magnus and all his other, like even if he didn't kill those first two Primarks, he is still up there in S-tier, regardless.

I mean, as moves go, as moves go, that, that's a hell of a, that's just a hell of a thing to just pull off in general. Like, a lot of, you know, when it comes to Primarks fighting Primax, a lot of, like, sword play, a lot of being out, you know, outwitted, out-foxed, just straight up lifting a guy and snapping his spine on your knee. is that's like a, that's like a level above, I reckon. And not just a guy either. Like, that's Magnus. Magnus is fucking huge.

Yeah, he's massive. Like, that's like a mouse picking up like a 200 pound dumbbell. Like, that's crazy. It's just, it's fun to think that like he was just basically, A, this guy likes magic. So I've covered my armor and things where he can't do magic. Now he's going to get in the ring. And I know I'm.

to win that battle. All right. So, V-tuber. I actually feel like he would make a great streamer V-tuber. Because he would just, I feel like he's such a wild, like, party animal dude that, like, everybody would be attracted to him. And he would do his stuff, like, drunk out of his mind. Might be.

might be to his detriment because once he gets drunk out of his mind he might say a few questionable things but I think overall pretty valorous, pretty honorable drunk party dude, I think he'd be a phenomenal streamer. I think he'd have probably a pretty

boring wolf sona for his V-tuber but it would be like really well done. So I'm gonna put him in A tier for like being like a V-tuber streamer. I'm gonna put him an A tier. He'd have a sick model that was guaranteed to be like a wolf furry thing because

you know low hanging fruit and yeah he'd probably be very entertaining drunk I feel I feel like he'd be the kind of guy that Twitch bands because he just gets belligerent halfway through the thing and he's like Xenos

are awful you magic users are pussies his V-supermodel would stop functioning very well because he keeps on like moving in a way that's not particularly proper and so he would like keep hitching. Yeah, well, and he would have no idea how to fix it. He'd be like that typical streamer where like OBS is doing something weird and he's like,

how do I fix this? Someone tell me how to fix this. This is technology thing is stupid. And then the Ferris Man comes up. He's like, Russ, you have to delete system 32. It's like, oh, thanks brother. And then he just like, freeze a bitch. So, wait, so after a while he just basically, he just basically becomes that liver king guy.

Is that what we're saying? Yeah, except I'd argue significantly smarter. And more honest. Yeah. Not a high bar, dude. Same amount of raw meat consumption, but more up front about the rest of the stuff that goes in there.

Yeah. Yeah. Russ would actually be natural. Yeah, Russ would be natural, but would look like the most juiced out son of a bitch on the planet. Yeah. God damn prime market.

Yeah, despite the fact that he is just sipping on that weird meat. that they made and drinking raw meat out eating the emperor, you know, yeah, yeah, he's still jacked, you know, he wouldn't need a V-tuber model, but he, yeah, he'd be all right, he'd be all right. A tier.

This is really difficult. I mean, he already has a tank named after him. I mean, surely, like, it's even the most difficult or the easiest one. Like, Lehman Rush just turns into a Lehman Rust. It, like, it writes itself,

doesn't it? And I mean, technically, technically for my money, the Russ isn't quite as good as something like a Bainblade because it just doesn't have the mass. But on the other hand, I mean, he's got raw strength.

So I think I'm going to place him, I'm going to place him S tier because he's not a standard Lehman Rus. He's not the normal ones. He's one of like the Mars Alpha pattern ones. It's got like a little shield generator. Maybe he's got,

one that's got the, like, incinerator cannon on it. So he's got, like, a fancy weapon. He's got the, he's got the trench rails on the back. He's got the shield. He's got sponsons. Like, he's a fully loaded, proper ancient Lehman Ross, but he just turns into himself, because why would he turn into anything else? You know, if you wanted to go, like, super anime with this, you could have him transform

into, like, the Liger Zero. I don't know if anybody in here is going to get that, because it's a zoid's reference. But it's like a, it's a giant mecha wolf. You know, and it's very cool. And as blades coming out the side, it's a, it's a very, it's a very cool aesthetic, actually. I'm the only one that's going to know what I'm talking about, because that's usually how it goes with anime on this thing. But, you know, Mecca wolf would be cool. I do know Zoh.

You do? You know Liger? I do know that. That's one of the things I do know. But I agree with Kira. I feel like Lehman Russ purely should be S-tier because he's Lehman-Russ, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

The, you know, I like, I think, I think I, originally I would have put Russ in like C or B tier before we did our episode on him because I didn't quite get as much as I would have liked. But I got to be honest, I really like the jovialness of Russ. I feel like he's such a contradiction to so many of the other primarks. And he's quite the opposite of, of L. Johnson, right? He wears this like barbarian outer skin to, to keep down like the more honorable warrior underneath. And it's just that kind of. level of care and how much the wolves like give a shit about the human life and some of that. I think Russ is a pretty solid A. I like, I like Russ. I think he actually, he does really well for himself in terms of a general,

a general concept. Yeah. I would agree. Before our episode, I probably would have had him like in F just because I'm a petty thousand sons fan. Um, but after the whole,

uh, partying with the emperor thing and just learning about like all their stuff. Yeah. High A, I might even put him an S, honestly. Like, I really ended up liking the Space Wolves and Lehman Russ. So I might even put him in S. I think he's... I'd angle towards that myself, but I'm still, like, massively biased because of the...

Because of Prospero Burns, just that entire book. Even though he's not necessarily in it all that much, you can kind of get a feel for who he is through just the way his entire Legion is. and the way he is relatively like blunt when he needs to be, but there's also a lot of sophistication, but he's also presenting himself a certain way because it means that he's kind of like hiding how smart he is. He's just a really cool character. He's awesome.

Yeah. I mean, I was considering S a little bit, but I think that he's not, he doesn't quite reach it for me. I almost feel like if he came back, that might put him in like an S-tier thing, if they do his lore correctly when he returns. because like an older, like, wizened kind of like Odin Allfather kind of thing, then I'd

like, all right, all right, I see it. Very high A at least. Very high A. I like him a lot. Okay. Okay. Cool, cool, cool. All right.

So now the Seventh Legion. Yep. It's the Seventh Legion, all right. And their Primark. Their Primark is about as smart as I am. Oh, wow. I don't think any of them are that stupid. I don't know.

Think harder. I would imagine Angron because head empty only pain. Actually, I did the wrong. I did the wrong joke. I was about to say, has the subtlety that I do. So it would have been a better one because the character is very smart because they're primarx.

Yeah. It's, it's, it's Dorn. Ah, wow, really? Yes.

You are nothing like to. Oh, subtlety. A subtlety of a brick. Like, that's why I said it incorrectly. That's why I realized that mistake. Also,

on the tier maker, he has a forehead about as big as yours too. He's also balding. Yeah, he's practically you. God damn, he's like me for real, for real. Hey, listen, if everybody's like, hey, Bricky, you remind me of Dorn, you're not doing too bad

actually. Like, that's not bad. I mean, there's worse ones on the list to be likened to. At least people aren't like, oh yeah, you remind me of curs. Like, yeah, I don't need that one. Yep, don't need that. You have the air of a sickly man. Like, it's just not as great, is it?

Have you ever showered? You remind me of mortarian. Exactly. All right, Karioth, you're reading and shy as one of this one. Okay, so, Dawn is a pretty straightforward guy. He likes warfare, big guns, and huge fortifications, don't we all. Dawn leads all loyalist war efforts during the heresy and therefore killed shitloads of people indirectly and killed Alfarious directly.

But that kind of got lost. in the shuffle, like, do I have to read all of it? I do die. That kind of got lost in the shuffle like my ring in your mum's vagina. He also rebuilt the phalanx which is, Jesus Christ, the most killing human spaceship ever, and even though he and all his people were about to die in the iron cage, it was a sacrifice he was willing to make to annoy Perciarbo. He's good for a soldier man, but he's not quite the ultimate murderer, so A-Rank is fair. I didn't hear anything you said after I lost my ring

in your mom's in the chin. I got to it and I was like, if I say that out loud, I'm going to start laughing and then I'm not going to be able to finish the rest of it, but I sold it on. So it's fine. Well, you're doing gods working. There's no God here.

Yeah, the gods have left us. Can you ask you to return it, by the way? It's a family heir. You should have taken your ring on. before you started fingering his mom's vagina. That's on you. That's your fault.

Fully your problem. You get what you deserve, Murray. You get what you fucking deserve, Murray. It's pretty good. I like A. A sounds good. Yeah, sure. I have no idea what was said, though.

Now, V-Tuber, though. So, this is going to be a tough one because I feel like as a V-tuber, Dorn would want to build up like he's that guy that spends like $20,000 on his setup and he's like I need the $40,000 model with 800 million toggles and stuff and he gets like oh my god everything looks so good but the problem is he's got the personality of a fucking slug and so nobody wants to watch him so I feel like yeah he's he's see he's that guy that everybody like oh wow your model so cool, but they're all kind of like, yeah, but you're not entertaining.

You're a bad streamer. I was going to say he only plays Factorio and shall I beat into it. Yeah, he only plays Factor. Yeah, he only plays building Sims and Minecraft. You know, I agree with that, but I almost feel like he needs to go a little bit weirder. I almost feel like he needs

to only play like Eve online. You know? You think Eve? I feel like... Spreadsheets. Oh, true, true. I was going to say he could probably be a decent Minecraft streamer with all the like the building

and the fortifying and the oh look I've built a one to one scale in Minecraft of the Emperor's Palace praise be him you know so he might be all right with the right game but by and large he's going to be a boring watch

so I'm gonna give him I'm gonna give him a C that's fair um no Curiaith well speaking of tanks recently named after people I mean, again, he literally has a tank named after him.

It doesn't, I mean, it doesn't have the legacy that, you know, the Lehman Rus does, but it still exists. The thing is, is it as cool as a Lehman Rus? And it's bigger. It is bigger. But it's also, like, a little bit more rounded. It's a bit less kind of agricultural looking. It also has, I mean, let's be honest, it has gun nipples, which is weird for a tank. to have, and yet that's exactly what it's got.

S-tier. Gun nipples? Put him in S-tier immediately. For me, that takes it down to a B. I mean, it's covered in guns, but it just doesn't look as good as the classics. And, I mean, that's... Let's face it, when it comes to the hierarchy of Petraubon Dorn, I mean, it kind of fits that he is that far below, because it's reflective of everything else.

I am curious, if you had to give him something that was not... the Rogel Dorn tank. Like, what, like, maybe not even a tank. What would you make him? What would you have him transform into?

If he didn't have a tank, like, already ready to go. Like, named after him. I'm trying to remember the, I'm trying to remember the name of it. There is a,

I think we talked about it even, in one of the, like, Imperial Tank episodes. There is just a massive citadel on tracks. It's just a big, like, castle with a huge gun sticking out of the front of it.

Yes. That one. That is so darned. That's what it would be. Now you're talking. Let's go. I gotta be honest. Maybe I'm the weird one.

I actually like the Roguewell Dorn more than the Lehman Russ personally. From it's just like this big fortress tank type dude. But I don't know. Like are we not putting Dorn in S? Because I still think like he of all the people to transform into a tank, he should be going an S. I mean It's Dorn It is Dorn

It is Dorn I reckon The ideal The ideal thing Would be a mix of My gut instinct Which is the giganto Like

Just a castle on tracks And the actual Rogal Dawn tank Something that is A bit more functional Still quite silly But just It's just got the girth

The heft It's just a big Giganto tank that that would be S if he's doing what he actually is which is the Roggle Dorn tank it would be a C

if he's doing like the ideal the like what is it the Potonic ideal of Dorn as a tank it would be it would be S so I'm gonna be generous and put him in S

yeah let's go if we did not put Dorn an S I think we would have had we would have had problems yeah we would have had a fire store in the comments we'd have to kick you off the show

you know it would be a whole big thing I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said. I like you. Dorn. I like Dorn. I'm going to put Dorn next to Per Chrabbo. I don't have a whole lot next to think about with Dorn. He's great. Some people really like the fact there's not much to think about with Dorn. I think Dorn is perfectly fine as a character. He gets the job done. We understand what he's there for. We know what he's about. He is, he is good old Dorn. If only he could read. If only he could read. And therefore, he's going right next to Perchiravo. You know what? I'm going to put him behind percherabo just because I'm more chaos-pilled.

But, fair. He's Dorn. I am fine with Dorn. Be honest, the more I learn about Dorn, the more I like him, though. And he has really, like, his all-gold armor is so sick. He might have the best armor out of any of the primarks. Just visually, that is very slick. It is pretty good. I tend to play up, I tend to play up the dislike of Dorn because of the whole, you know, Iron Warriors' First Army Imperial Fist, you know, the great sort of enmity between the two. But setting that aside, he's fine. He's all right. He's actually okay. It's just more fun to dislike the Imperial Fists, and it is to acknowledge that they're also pretty cool. All right. It's more fun to be weird and knowing about it and be like, ah, damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel that. All right. Now we are on the eighth. Legion, please God, get this one right, D.K. I think this is, this is Angron, right?

This is, this is the hate. I'm actually going to pipe on your mailbox. I'm actually going to pipe on your mailbox, D.K. You will die. You will not see another sunrise. Of all of them. Of all of them. All of them.

Skulls for the Eighth Legion, the Eighth Legion. I, I, I am. Come on, who does, I mean, does you still not know this? I am. trilogy about it. I, so I, come on. Curse.

Right? Because the, well, yeah, but I just told you. Well, I was gonna say it, but you didn't give,

you just, I don't know, I, I, no, you heard it eight, you thought it was Angron,

so you went to Angron. I did, I did, I did, I did, I did. Oh my God. I did, I did. Oh my God.

I can't wait until we have our collaboration with the Poor Hammer podcast, and we can see which co. Oh, which host did a worse job at teaching their co-host. Well, I just don't know the numbers.

Like, I know what they do. I just don't know the number of their legions. All right. Well, here's, it's my turn now. And how fitting for me to read this one. With the next three prime marks, we are entering the death zone. And what a way to start it.

Curse me boy. Absolutely high-tier murderer. Started killing and eating people literally out of a crib and never stopped. Degenerate lunatic of highest tier who was hated by pretty much everyone. and hated everyone right back. Heard voices in his hem, built palaces and statues out of meat of his victims, inflicted more torture on general population than TikTok dance apology video, and unaligned to himself to prove the emperor wrong,

even though the emperor was dead by that point. What a Chad, easy-s tier. Yeah, if you're doing a murder tier list, Curz has got to be tip-top. Like, you can't really get a whole lot higher than Kurz, right? I can think of one person that can get higher than Curz. And, but, like, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he is like way high up on the list for sure.

How would he be, you know what, as a V-tuber, I'm fascinated, D.K. I'm fascinated. I, so I actually feel like Kurz might work as a V-tuber. He'd be very dark. He would have like a very edgy model and he would be very humdrum. But like, man can see the future. a little bit, so he'd know if he was about to get banned. You know, and, you know, maybe him getting banned,

he'd be like, oh, I love the validation of banned. I don't think he'd be that bad as a streamer. Yeah, I think he would be kind of that dark, mysterious persona. You know, I don't think he would go on, like, racist tangents or say anything too out of bounds to get him banned, but everybody's like, ooh, he's so edgy. I wonder what he's going to say next. and he's probably god tiered, like, shooter games. So we'd probably, like, sit on Valorant all day with his, uh, edgy ass model,

doming fools. And he'd, he'd probably farm views like crazy. I'm gonna give him an A. I'm gonna give Kerr's A rank for V-tubing. I think he'd be, I think it'd be a good V-tuber. You think Valoran are not just dead by daylight the whole time? You know, I, I don't think by daylight would be the right option either. I feel like Curz would do like Rimworld and he would just make,

the most horrid, horrid looking like, like, the population there. I don't, I've never played Rimworld. I don't, I don't even,

I don't even know what that game is, but like, I've heard people talk about how good it is, because it's like really old and it's been around forever, but I, I don't know.

Play Sims and torture them. Yeah, sure, he could do stuff like that. He'd do really edgy stuff, but it would, he would be, he would be, he would be toting the line

so hard that he'd be, be doing all this edgy stuff, but he would never do anything that's like too much. Because he would just want to really savor the fact that he's like, you want to ban me, but you can't.

I believe it. I can see it. I can see it. As a tank, Kariath, honestly, this is the most difficult one. I have no idea what he would... I have no clue on it.

Good luck, Kiriath. Sort of like, Like, what was it, what was the name of the, there's like a stealth tank in, was it Command and Conquer General? No, it wasn't General. There's so many Command and Conquer games and I forget which one it was. Is it the one from Kane's Wrath where it's literally just called Stealth Tank? It might, it might be that.

He has a really, he has a really low voice and he has this like, stealth tank, clear for combat, kind of fucking sounds for it. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I feel like that, but covered in knives. So not, not particularly effective. Like, still sneaky, but I don't think you would actually function well

because the temptation would be to, you know, stealth in, going all sneaky and invisible, and then immediately just unleash and try and run people over, like something out of death race, something like that sort of vibe, but starting out invisible. World War one tank covered in barbed wire that kills both the enemy and troops. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He does kind of hate his sons, doesn't it? I genuinely don't know what in the world you would do for this guy. I actually have no clue what you would do for him. That's a tough tank conversion. I'm going to say whatever it is, it's probably not actually that good. No matter of what it is, it's not that effective. I'm going to put him at a solid C because I still think he'd do some damage, but whatever he turned into, I think it would probably do just as much,

damage to his own side. And whilst that is funny, it's not necessarily something you should encourage in warfare, you know? That's fair. Fair and valid, yep. Ah, gee whiz, uh, hey, Bricky, where would Kurzby on your tour? Yeah, you know where he's going. Yeah, gee whiz. Hey, I've had no idea. What's your justification for this? Listen, here's the thing, right? Well, the issue with the prime arts is that a lot of them don't often have human personality. And, and if you want to have human personality and you want to slap depression onto somebody. You can just get him all the way up there. He's got multiple books. He's got genuine, genuine intrigue, not just with how he handles his own afflictions, but how he handles his sons. He hates that he has this weird twisted, like,

idea of justice and then, and how he deals it out while also having an entire Legion full of gangsters that are against his ideas of justice? He's, what if Batman had Joker methods? And it's, it's fascinating to me the most because a lot of people hate Kurz because they, they know he's wrong, but I like him because I know he's wrong.

His, his reasonings are flawed and bad. His ideas are, are bad and, and it's generally terrible, but you get why he does him. You know why he's, as screwed up as he is.

And it's not an excuse, but it's fascinating as a character. So I'm full up S tier on this one. I love, I love Curz. He has so much depth to him. I mean, I too love the Night Lord,

so I have no problem with you putting him in S tier. I'm always, I'm always curious what Curz would have been like if he didn't land on like a death world that was like full of gangsters. Like how different would he be and how much of a like really good prime mark

would he have been? Well, that's kind of the thought process, right? It's like the difference between sanguinius and, um, uh, curs is how is how they, they were raised in the environment they were raised in and how they handled their upbringing, etc, etc. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Could curs have been the second coming of sanguineous? Mm-hmm. That's just the theory, you know? Could, could, Angron have been better if he wasn't put on a goddamn slave planet, you know? It couldn't be any worse. I was going to say, we'd be half friends. to make it worse, going to end up on you.

A little bit. All right. Speaking of Sanguineus. Are we doing Sanguineus next? He's the next one, right? He has to be. Please tell me he's the next one. Yep.

Night Legion. Yep. Night Legion. I got one. All right. You're up, D.K. Uh, okay.

So, Sanguinius didn't really like killing people. He wasn't bad at it. He fought 1 v.1 against lots of big demons, including demonic Angron and fucking exploded his head. He just wasn't feeling it. Then he died by Horace. You lose points for that.

But his death caused his sons to be cursed with the black rage, which turns them into insane murders. Definitely gained points for that. Overall, I think Sanguineas would absolutely hate to be high on this list or even on this list at all. And that's why I'm giving him S-tier. What the fuck? You're so petty.

I mean, I feel realistically, Sanguinius shouldn't be S-tier on the murder list, right? Like, great fighter, great prime. but if we're talking just sheer murder, he's like B-tier, right? No, no, it's her list. Don't mansplainer. You're right, you're right, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You're right, you're right. Shai knows what Shai's doing. I'll be honest, I fully support it. I'm right that. You're so valid, queen. All right, all right. How would he be as a V-Tuber?

S-tier. Like, he's such a likable guy. Everybody likes sanguineous. I feel like Sanguineus would be like, ah, yes, I'm going to make a V-Tuber model. And then, like, the artist would be like, okay, what do you want to be? And he's like, um, just make me, me, you know, and everybody would like it and everybody would watch him no matter what

because he's just, you know, he's perfect. He's S-tier. He's just S-tier. I think all of us are going to put him in S-tier, right? Like, you can't hate on sanguineas. Well, I mean, like, I don't know how good of a tank he'll be. Well, yeah. I guess you're right.

I don't know what kind of tank. He turns angel tank. I don't know. He's also quite often a bit sad. He's quite a sad boy. Yeah, but we do love a good sad boy. I just put the saddest boy in S-tier, my friend. Yeah, it's just to say curs is in S-tier.

That's true, yeah. I mean, tank-wise, will he even be a tank? He can literally fly. Surely, surely some sort of, some sort of winged vehicle. But would he drop bombs or would he drop like care packages? That's the question. Ah, so you're referring to the destructive power that you believe he would have difficulties with in a way.

Yeah, I think whatever, I think he would probably turn into some sort of aircraft as opposed to tank because he wouldn't sully himself by, you know, you couldn't put something that nice just in the mud. That's not on. and he had literal wings. So not making him fly feels like a real, just like a real slap in the face for him. But would he necessarily, would he necessarily be a hostile aircraft?

Or would he be, you know, trying to lift the people up by dropping, you know, water supplies and wet wipes and stuff? He would be both, right? Because, yeah, he would want to like support people and everything. But he also has... and then drop some food on him.

Yeah, but he also has such crazy destructive power. Like he's one V-1 and crazy named blood letters. It's true. After he's already killed like thousands of people defending Tara. So it's like, this has got to be like one of those big old support like tanker planes that also has like 80 nuke strapped to it just in case you really want to F around and find out. I reckon let's, I reckon he goes A, he goes eight here, because he only drew. drops like three bombs, but each of them is an actual nuke.

Yeah. So you need to drop the three, and then he's on his way out. But the three that he drops absolutely obliterates everything. Oh, yeah. I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A tier's good, yeah. Bricky.

I mean, you kind of know where he's going. This is sanguineous, man. Like, he's like the guy. you know, what's the first letter in his name? S for sanguineus. S for sanguinius. I mean, he's just, he's so caring. He has such compassion.

He has such a level of intrigue, both in his kind of sort of fatalism, but like the sacrifice, right? The knowledge of what he has to do, how much he cares, mixed together with his fear of his son's problems. I feel like S-tier is just, acceptable for sanguinius.

He knows what he has to do and he has the strength to do it. Yeah, it seems, it seems correct. Yep, yep, Sanguinius had to be there. He had to be there. He had to be there. He had to be there. Kirae, can you put Sanguinius up to S just so we all have him at S? Oh, go on then.

Yeah, okay. That's the only card I'm going to play. Very well. So how? Four of them are now in S when really only had two down his big. I can be flexible. Okay, okay, okay. All right. 10th Legion, I'm not even going to attempt anymore with D.K. here.

Ferris Manus, the Iron Hands. Oh, this is great. Kiriath, enjoy it. Okay. Contributed about as much as YouTube comment section, then died. F tier. I mean, I hate. You know what?

There will be one somewhat high tier out of all of us here. That is fair. Shai's going down pretty deep in the anti-murder thing. DK for the V-tubing. You know, I feel like Ferris has to be F-tier, specifically because it's kind of hard to do V-tubing when you don't have a head to do face tracking with. So, you know, I'm going to get a M-Tubing.

F tier. The absolute slamming is going to continue. I mean, if Ferris was going to turn into a tank. He's also just a really unlikable doucheback, like Shai said. There is also that. There's a reason he gets ribbed on so much for losing his head. I don't think, I don't think, I don't think F tier is a tank, but realistically, he would be a tank without a turret because, you know, no head. So...

Jesus Christ It would have to be That's like how we're all leaning into the hat. It would have to be some sort of tank hunter. Not bad. Not bad at all. But very situational. So he gets a B.

Yeah. Okay. Hey, B is pretty high for him, actually. I felt like he probably deserved A. He's fairest manis of all people. I mean, like... Of all the... That's fine.

He does craft a mean sword. I mean, he makes a mean sword. I mean, I, I, my low is the seat here, but he's going there. He's, he's, he's genuinely unlikable. He doesn't contribute much at all and he has the problem of being dying too early for anyone to care. And therefore he gets no lore at all because he died too early for anyone to care. Yeah. And so like, why would you spend more time making Ferris Manas better when you're not going to get anything out of it?

Yeah. And it is, like, well, I mean, I'd love, I would love to know more. But he's already gone, so why bother it? I mean, it's the same reason that, you know, no one watched that Black Widow film. She was already gone. She was already gone. Actually, I watched that movie. Was it any good?

No. Well, I'm glad I avoided it then. It was bad even after that part. Kierath, I've asked Bricky this, but if they brought Ferris Manus back, how would you want him to be brought back? If you were forced to make that call. They were like, yeah, he's coming back, you can't change it. What do you want us to do? What's the best way to handle it?

I think I would want him to have basically become the, like the, I guess that, when I say Ghost Primark, the Legion of the Damned, the ones who are space marines that have got all like bones and stuff implanted in their armor and they're on fire all the time, him coming back in that form, leading them, I would be okay with that. clone I'm not too fuss by I think the whole cloning thing is a little bit played out for me personally outside of one specific dude

but like the rest of it is whatever that give it a bit of a bit of a warp based sort of a warp based touch where he's still technically on the side of the Imperium but there's a lot of kind of like imperial demon style stuff going on

I'd be okay with it yeah yeah fair enough I'd like to see him come back as like a Doolahan, like a headless horseman, Primark. I can see it. Yeah, maybe. Anyway, all right, Ferris has done. 11th Legion.

Hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo, yo, who, you, ho. All right, 12th Legion. What the stuff? What's that? Sorry, I short-circuit him. Okay, that was the reboot cycle. All right, cool, cool, cool. 12th Legion.

Engron, I'm pretty positive. I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Okay. Angron. Let's go. I have no. I'm glad that to me again.

I'm glad to me again. Let's go. All right. Angram. Do I even need to say anything? Man's a sinking ship of social skills, but who cares when he's a walking blender who wields a sword which he made by beating a demon to death with a metal bar and a gifted axe for which he slaughtered an entire population of a planet because they offended him.

It was a gift that wasn't blood or skulls. Man knows nothing but hate and rage and will kill and die for infinity till the stars burn out. Let me end this with a quote. your shrines will burn your streets run with blood your false idols shattered your people slaughtered by the thousands your very planet torn apart

and the barest fraction of my hatred will be satisfied god tier that's such a great quote on the murder tier list there is no debate that Angron is S tier yep agreed

hell yeah yep dead on all right sir Sir ZK I'm very curious about this I don't think he'd make a great V-tuber

I agree with you Very short career He wouldn't bother making a model Somebody like hey Angren Have you ever heard of V-tubing And he would immediately kill them It wouldn't even be like Yeah

I feel like he would go on the I feel like he would go on the stream And be like try to solve Angra And he just get like The stream would be 13 minutes long because he would die in game and he would immediately destroy the setup. I'm not even sure it would make 13 minutes.

I think he would like see all of like, he would see like bright colors and then like the nails in his head would be like bright colors are good, pain! And then he would just punch the screen and just everything would blow up. I think he would be one of those news articles that talks about how like one streamer went

to another streamer's house and, you know, like, suspected murder. You know, they were famed. Like that streamer house where they just literally destroyed the house for content. He'd be good for that for just like, you know, someone that's in a plane above and they're just viewing, you know, they're just they've got a live stream of like, look at what Angron's doing. But yeah, as a as a YouTuber, I don't think he'd have a successful or long career. It'd be very, very tough.

He could do a little bit better than that, yeah. He could make YouTube content if someone. else filmed him. Shias, like, he would be like low to your god, but he doesn't tell people to kill themselves or mods to ban them. He literally just tracks them down himself. Yes, yes, straight.

Straight on the front page. Immediately. Yep. All right, all right. Curia, thoughts? I mean, he would just be a giant lawnmower with armor plating, wouldn't he?

That would be, that would be his ideal form, just a bunch of like, you know, the deathguard unit that's got the big like threshing blade on the front that hovers around. I forget what it's called. It's one of the um bloat drone type things. Yeah, floated

bloat drone with the flesh mower or whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah. I feel like just a Bainblade-sized version of one of those that just moves forward. Maybe some guns on it, but more for the noise and for something to you know, sort of

display as you move. And then it's just about getting into the ranks. and just, you know, grinding them down so that they're a thin paste. I'd say, probably, I'm going to go for B, I'm going to go for B, because if he gets in there, it would be great, but it'll be a challenge getting him there.

You'd get very distracted. Plus, also, there would be blades on the back, and he'd frequently go into reverse and run over your own guys. I don't know. I feel like Angron would be just an unstoppable tank, though, right? Because, like, it's so hard to kill him, and even if you do kill him, he just, like, respawns.

Right? Okay, okay, I'm not, I'm not gonna lie. I have, do you guys remember the story of the killdozer? Yes. Yes. The guy, the guy who was fed up with the city, so he welded himself into like a tank version of a bulldozer and went on a rampage, destroying people's houses and stuff. Yep, yep. Wow.

That, wait, that, that happened? Yeah, yes, sir. It's a great story. Look it up. Absolutely. I'm moving it up, A-2. What? If it was like that, I think it would be pretty all right.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll go eight here. Hell yeah. Oh my God. That, that, that happened. You got, yeah. Look at it over a later time.

It's good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I genuinely didn't believe you for a second. And one Google searching, it's like, oh, my God, that's, this isn't a meme. You know, I got to be honest, I put A for Ingren. I think AGRON really, really kind of worked with me a bit more. The more you learn about Ingram and the more, the more you learn about Engron and the more, the more you like really dig deep into the world eaters you kind of realize how sad it is that they're frothing

lunatics and how how much they weren't like that back in the day it really is a fall from grace and like a just a genuinely sad one at times yeah yeah it's like god it really was that bad it really squandered potential because of just where he happened to land and the people there being awful. Like, yep. So, so much potential greatness

just, just stolen away right at the start. It's just because of a bad roll of the dice. Yeah. So, so much like genuine intelligence.

Like people out there with so much to do and live for, well, they may not live for, they live for murder, but so much like there mentally and just,

it's just gone. It's all, it's all just, mental, mentally, just nothing anymore. It really is sad. He's another one where it's like,

it's an interesting thought of like, what if he had landed on Ultramar? Like, just a nice world that like raised him, right? Like, man, it'd just be like a complete 180. That's a common thing. Angron literally said that to Gilliman. Oh, that's right. He did when they were like dueling, right?

Yeah. Yeah, it's like you, like I landed in a slave plant. You got a giant world for you. You got paradise. Yeah. You want to talk to me about this? Yeah. But I think eight tier, when you really, when you really get into it, it's genuinely saddening.

Oh, definitely. He's definitely high on the list for sure. All right. The 13th Legion. Speaking of. Speaking of. I was about to say, speaking of the Ultras. Gilliman.

Gilliman. Hey, Gilliman. It's Gilliman. is all right. I don't, I don't hate Gelleman now. But is it, whose turn is it to read? It's yours. All right. Gilliman, as a member of the IRS, probably ruined more lives than all serial killers combined. But on Killy scale, he's pretty low. To be fair, he did fight quite a lot. And when he was betrayed on his home planet, he mercily executed every single traitor. So he's not entirely a pussy. He was, he also. burned monarchy and pissed on the ashes, which is respectable.

Not the first word that comes to mind when I think about the burning of monarchy, but whatever. But we all know man doesn't have it in him to be a mass murderer. He is at heart, a politician and mama's boy avenging bean counter gets a D. That's fair. Yeah, I don't hate that. He also lost every goddamn Primark fight he ever was a part of. It was not his strength, was it really? No, it really was not.

Yeah. Um, oh, go ahead. No, no, no, I was saying, yeah, I agree. That sounds like, that sounds like, that sounds like, it sounds like, Angerre. That sounds like Gillamond to me. Yeah. Uh, D.K., VTuber Gilliam. I'm, I'm going to try and be as unbiased about this as I can.

Because, like, I don't think he'd be, like, awful at it, but I don't feel like his streams would be, like, entertaining. I feel like he only play the civilization games. Yeah, or maybe, like, or. It would just be four X. He'd play like papers, please, or something, which would be kind of interesting. Okay, that's great, cool. I feel like his general personality would just be so boring, though, and kind of just like, oh, um, look at me do this stuff.

And, like, everything would be, like, fine, but nothing would be, like, overwhelmingly great. So I'll give him maybe low B, kind of, kind of holding on to B for. for Deer Life almost in C. Because I just, yeah, advertisers, he would do a great ad read though, for sure. And his taxes would be all lined up. Yeah, yep. Yeah, he would definitely be a Corpo streamer, 100%.

I was about to say which Corp he would be a V-tuber for, but I was like, let's not open that can of work. He'd run like an organization. He'd like run OTK, but he himself would like not be particularly interesting, but he would just run the org very well. Yeah, he would have. handle all the paperwork, all the business stuff. He'd get all the sponsors, handle all the emails.

Yeah, yeah. But himself as a streamer would be pretty dull, so Lobi. Curiaf? I mean, he would just be a solid, a solid B. I'm not sure what specific tank he would be, but he would be dependable. He would be efficient, nothing flashy, nothing exciting, get the job done, but no one would be.

sitting there going, oh, you know what, I really wish I could drive that tank. It would just be the one that's the one that's always there and doing pretty okay 100% of the time. T-34, that's actually quite a good shout. Yeah, nothing

special, but nothing bad. Yeah, it gets, like you said, it gets the job done. Yeah. And that's Gilliman. He gets the job done. Honestly, I think Gilman's a proper B. I think he was a C before he got his ultra depression. And then he got a little bit better.

And now he's much like space marines in the wider group of, of general primarks and stuff in terms of, you know, like how to, or much like space marines in the terms of all the other factions in the game. They're very much like the clean B in how they're handled and how they're everything. Gilliman is just B. He's fine.

He used to be worse. He's a little bit better now. but he's no A. He's just a B. Yeah. I think that's okay. I mean, I like him a lot more after the ultra depression because it's just like, hey, look, he does have character. He does feel things. He's not perfect. But, yeah, I don't think I'd go any higher than like mid-B.

Yeah. 14th Legion. Can you guess this one, D.K.? Is this one Mortarian? Thank God. All right. You know what? I'm genuinely really

because I'd forgotten I'd forgotten what 14th was. Genuinely, the only reason I knew that is because what was the group chat we were in where Brickie was like, hey, DK, what's half of 14? That was with the poor hammer podcast.

Yeah, and that's the only reason I remember Mortarious number. All right, Mortarian, mortarian. Yeah, because 14 divide by 2 is seven. Yeah. That's the only part I remember. Kyrioth, this one shall be for you, sir, when Shiper, there it is, let's go. Mortarian, literally Grim Reaper.

He and his Legion, even before turning to chaos, had been most brutal, merciless killers around, and during the heresy he purged countless worlds of life purely out of spite. He led attacks on Imperial Palace and killed lots of people, including Nathaniel Garrow, one of the most important 40K characters. after the heresy he caused many wars attacking Ultramar and spreading plague all over the place, but he personally is not super murdery,

killing somewhat indirectly. So on Nurgle scale, I think he's more like coronavirus than the Black Plague, so not quite the S level, but a respectable high A tier. Yeah. I mean, I think so far Shire's reasoning has been sound, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's more like

just general existence versus like actually being crazy powerful. you know. Yeah. I can see it. I see it. Yeah. I tend to think Mortarian

would actually be a pretty good V-tuber, specifically because when someone's a V-tuber, you can't smell them. And you can't see him, so you wouldn't see how horrific he is. And he'd probably make a very quaint little model that's nice and edgy. And I'm going to go for a low-hanging fruit here,

but I feel like Mortarian would be a smash streamer. Right? Yeah, I would agree. I think he would be a smash streamer as well. He'd probably be a smash streamer. I'm going to give him low A. It makes a lot of sense because he has so many daddy issues. Yeah, he has daddy issues and the smell and, you know, just being a little too edgy for his own good.

And yeah, like we said, the daddy issues, yeah, he's a smash streamer. He's probably great at it. But yeah, I'm actually going to give him a low A. I also think he has enough style with, like, how his mini looks, that he would, he would hook up a really dope V-tuber avatar. I would agree with that one, the Grim Reaper style and everything. Yeah, that's fair. He would have, like, uh, like, uh, tech fashion, uh, gas mask vibe going on.

Yeah, he would be, he'd be a great V-tuber. I believe it. Perfect career for Mortarian. Okay. This is going to be super quick, super easy. The tank here would be. Is this. It's the 1918 steam tank,

and he's an E. Next. Oh, really? You know what? No, you know what? I don't even want him to elaborate. I don't care. All right.

We're moving on. All right. Bricky, Mortarian. Where are you putting him? Where are you putting him, Bricky? C tier, but above Ferris. I don't like Mortarian. I think he's extremely boring.

I find his motivations to be generally dull. He's brooding. but brooding and not the fun percherabo way. He's just kind of there. He became the big bad for a bit and it didn't really do a whole lot to actually make him any more interesting. He's just Mortarian is very much like the,

oh yeah, that's right, Mortarian. Oh yeah, Mortarian. Oh, I forgot about Mortarian. And it's just that way over and over again, which is unfortunate because he does have one of the best looking models in all of 40K. Oh, yeah, that thing is so sick. He looks so cool.

but at the same time, eh, I give him a strong eh. Yeah, he's like, oh no, you kill stole my daddy

and that's literally it. That's like his whole, like, thing and it's, yeah, he is kind of very, eh. I genuinely expected

that might be a little bit more, but I was wrong. Yeah. 15th Legion, everybody. You've got this, you've got this,

D.K. You've totally, you've actually done this. Only, The only reason I'm going to guess him is because you guys are like pushing that I, is, maybe, I honestly don't know. Magnus, I don't know. I'm so proud of him.

I'm so proud of him. Let's go. That's why I was, that's why I wanted to guess Magnus, because he's like, you've got it. I was like, I like thousand sons.

Let's go. Let's go. Magnus the Red. All right. I think it's me this time. Oof, Magnus. He died to Russ.

His Legion died to mutation, died to the wolves and died to the rubric. His planet. fell, then he died to Vulcim, then he died to Gilliam him. I don't know, the man gets his ass kicked all the time and I can't, and can't seem to really kill that much because he is in charge of like 20 anime club members. Go sit in the E tier, Magnus. I can't argue with that. I, you know, he did kind of get his ass kicked all the damn time. That is true. All the time. And then when he tried to do something right, he screwed it up. As is the new joke, he did nothing wrong, right? Uh, yeah.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. Yeah. That being said, I imagine he'd be a pretty good V-tuber. In fact, he'd be a very good one. I was actually going to put him in S for being a V-tuber because he's smart. He's charismatic. He'd probably adore any viewer that, like, did anything for him. He's technologically savvy, so he'd have just all the best stuff.

And he's a primark. And, like, even though he kind of gets dunked on at every corner, he's still. like, he's a force. So like any game he played, he'd probably be like Godtier at. So he'd probably be a riot to watch. I would watch him. He might be a little on the dorky side, right? Because he's Magnus.

But, you know, low S. On the lower end of S, but I'd still, you know. You know, oh, right, he would totally be the one that the chat just completely bullies him. But they bully him out of love and they just like throw money at him, even though they're constantly calling him like a freaking weeb that like oh so it's my chat so oh so it's my stream then basically basically lovely it's bricky's but hey that i put that as an s tier streamer reasoning so good for you right let's say honestly he'd be an s tier v tour because he wouldn't even stream who would actually project himself into other people's like monitors oh that's

fair actually. He could do that. Straight to the brain. Just right. He would just do the psycher link and he would stream right to your brain. He'd get all of the viewers. He would literally get every viewer on the planet. Best streamer ever S-tier. You'd have real issues though if you're trying to sleep and he just kept streaming

and you didn't want him to but you couldn't get to a computer to unfollow him. It just keeps coming. You just can't stop it. Hey guys, it's my 24-hour sub-a-thon stream. You can't turn it off so you better donate. Hell yeah

Brother, what a streamer Oh man It should have been me It should have been me Break my back, Russ It should have been me All right Tank

I mean What would Magnus even What would even become Oof That's tough Yeah I'm thinking Was it

I'm thinking like Maybe something Red Alert 3 style Something Some sort of psychic it's got to be some sort of psychic-esque vehicle, right? Also, what is the shittest tank ever that explodes in one shot? Ouch.

He'd be a paper tank. He's actually just a... At one point, I think it was in the UK, they made a bunch of inflatable tanks. Was it in the UK? Was it the US? Made a bunch of inflatable tanks that were only there to act as decoys for bombing runs. Wow. Oh yeah, yeah, they had like full deployment areas where they had like just a bunch of tanks that were sat there that were just inflatables designed to throw off German bombing.

So, I mean, yeah, that. If there was something lower than F, I would probably go there. But F is the lowest on the list. So he's down there with Fulgroom. And having now put him there, I'm trying to remember why Fulgroom is that low because it seems harsh. But I think... Well, because he's... We decided he was a literal glass can.

Oh, that was it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. That's, that's Magnus. Wow, that's actually a pretty convincing inflatable tank. Seen from above, pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I thought you were going to say he's like a cardboard cutout tank that little kids play in or something, you know, where it says tank scrawled on it, but the K is backwards. That would also work. Yeah. You know, I'm honestly, it's going to go. goes along with the same deal. Like, I, you know what, Magnus, I got to be honest, I'm putting him in B as well. I don't, you know, I was like, I'm going to, you know, I learned about Madas, learned about Magnus, see how he treats people and everything like that. And he is good. He's a good

person in all the ways that like, San Guineas was good and like kind and stuff. But he also just kind of sucked. He's just kind of like bad at his job. And you know, at some point, you know, if you hire your friends, eventually you're going to realize that they're not good at their job, and you're going to have to make the choice to fire them. And it's nothing personal between you and the rest. It's just business. Now, is he C? Absolutely not. But it's just, I don't know. Magnus is like, he's fine. He is perfectly fine. Yeah, I would agree. He's definitely not S or A, but he's not like C, D, or F. Yeah, I think perfectly Perfectly B. All right.

The 16th Legion. Yep. 16th Legion. This, okay, I won't lie. This one actually does get people. And so I think it's fair. I actually sometimes forget. I think it's Horace, right?

It is, yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Horace himself. And I think this is up to you now, D.K. You are the one reading this next one. All right. There's no way this isn't like an S tier.

So, Shai said, Horace not much to say, kind of locked into S-tier by the fact that he killed Big E and set up the universe for perpetual war and war that we all that we all hold so dear. Sorry, I bungled that shot.

But yeah, like Horace, how is he not an S-tier on the murder list? Like, everything is kind of like his fault. Even if the number of murders was low, the, like, he did like the most important murder, surely. Yeah, he was like the root cause

of like every murder in every war that is to come. Yeah, he did the murder. If there was one ever, it was that one. He might not have pulled the trigger, but he pointed all those guns in that direction. Yep, that makes a lot of sense. If anyone's going to be doing this,

the guy who takes down Big E should be the person. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I think he'd also be a great streamer. Like, I know he did the whole, like, betrayal thing. But, like, you know, He's charismatic. Everybody loves him. There's a reason he was made war master. Everybody's like, oh, he's so talented, so smart, best warrior. He's the next best thing to Big E. So, like, people are going to be drawn to him. He's going to have a dope everything. Like, he succeeds at everything he does. Like, I mean, yeah, he's, he's an S-tier streamer. I don't, like, there's, I don't know what negative thing he'd have other than he being like, oh, whoops, I have terminated my Twitch contract because,

I've decided I am going to go stream on Facebook gaming. Like, that's the only bad thing I could see him do, just because, you know, he's heretical, he's a traitor. And, yeah, he's an S-tier. All right, all right. Curiaf as a tank. I reckon. I mean, if we're going, if we're going to follow, if we're going to follow the thing of, of, like, the one big murder, the most important murder. I reckon

Death Strike Missile Launcher It does one thing But it obliterates everything It's a far-reaching A far-reaching attack That can have devastating consequences For a long time

In the Toil Annihilation of a small army So it's got to be that Some sort of long-range Like ICBM-style launcher That really packs a mass massive punch that is felt no matter where it lands. It's got to be something like that. So, I mean, Horace's got to be A.

He's got to be A. This is interesting. Fair justification, actually. I don't hate that. I get it. I honestly am putting Horace in C with Mortarian and Ferris. Whoa. Really?

He has no lore. He has nothing. He's so, like, dull. His lore is that he does the heresy. There's no, like, intrigue in his, growing up. There's no, like,

he doesn't, he becomes this way because of like funny poison knife and arabis whispering in his ear. I, I don't like Horace. He's got like nothing about him. He's so just,

just anemic when it comes to important and interesting concepts because he's Mr. Heresy. You know, I guess I never really looked at it that way. I always held Horace on like this super high plateau because it's the Horace. He's the one that started everything.

He's the one that essentially. killed Big E, but like, you're right? Like, we don't have any stories about his childhood because his childhood doesn't matter. Like, he doesn't matter until he turns traitor. There's nothing for it. There's nothing there. And then once he turns traitor, it's like, oh, yeah, he tried to do heresy, and he kind of sort of succeeded, but he died, and then everybody just scattered.

And then no more Horace, except for that weird clone thing that we don't talk about. I think who did immediately died by Avedon. Yeah, and then Abidon kills him to be like, no, I'm the new war master of this. Yeah, that's fair, actually. Like, that's fair justification for C rank horse, maybe even lower than C. I'm not putting a lower than fairest man. Because C is my lowest, remember. Oh, oh, okay, gotcha, got you.

I just find him so dull. That's fair. I got nothing. I got absolutely nothing. I really wanted to argue with you and make you raise it, but it's like, you know, man's got a point. I think it's shy has really kind of summed it up in a good way he is super cool but they never really get into why it is kind of like it's it's just sort of like

there's this ultimate badass and you kind of see how he falls but at the same time it's like yeah but where where did you come from to begin with can we have all of that also the fall is by the end of the Horace heresy with like the grand scope of all of that there's very little of Horace like at his best.

best to really appreciate because of how quickly the story moves into and then Erebus was a little shit and then. Yeah, yeah. And then from that point on, it's just like, oh, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's getting increasingly erratic and evil, even in a universe full of, you know, evil. Okay, cool. And it doesn't really get much more exciting than that for him. But kind of like we said, it, it almost doesn't matter where he came from because his upbringing is going to have no bearing on his story. Like the whole reason he goes traitor is because he gets stabbed with funky little poison knife. So everything up until that point almost doesn't matter. Like it's not really going to add anything to his story other than, yep, he was the perfect

boy that we thought he was. And then funky little chaos poison knife made him go cuckoo bananas. There's nothing really sad. Yeah, there's nothing to add. His story has been told. and it's not that much. Man, I hate that I now have a horrible opinion of Horace. I just, you know, it's interesting.

Like, Horace might be interesting to learn about with how he treats his other brothers and that kind of thing, but they're so, but the most important part about Horace, the heresy has like, just, there's nothing with his character that adds to it. So I don't like him. I hate how you've influenced my opinion on Horace. Well, it's all right.

Because it all makes sense. It all makes sense. I can't argue any of it. All right. After Horace. What are we at right now? 16? No, 17, right?

17. The best boy. The best boy. 17, the, uh, the altar boy. Uh, Lorgar. Lorgar. Uh, yep. Currioth, this is you.

Okay. Lorgar is an interesting one. He wasn't super killy. No, beating the crap out of our, no, keeping the crap out of an avatar of Kane doesn't count. Even Grots can do it. and was in fact fairly weak as far as Primarchs go. However, he wrote both the Letticio divinitatis and the Book of Lorgar,

which respectively created both imperial cults and chaos cults, marking both the Emperor and Chaos as Gods to worship, kicking off the biggest human conflict in Galactic history. Ultimately, he is responsible for more deaths than YouTube armed robbery pranks, or be it indirectly. So while he is tied to death on an unimaginable scale, Since he wasn't personally into chopping people, I can't give him S-tier. Very strong A-tier, for sure.

I'm so glad those YouTube prank videos have stopped. Oh, my God. I'm so glad. Oh, Jesus. But yeah. I think I agree with that. Yeah. He really, whether he meant to or not, when he definitely didn't mean to,

to, played both sides there, didn't he? Mm-hmm. He did. I don't know how I would rank Lorgar as, like, a streamer or V-D. YouTuber. Because like he would, obviously he would be very preachy and be like, oh, chaos is the way and the gods. That's not exactly a good streamer thing to be, though. Like, are there, there aren't Christian streamers, period. Because like, anytime there's like a Christian streamer, everybody's like, why are you pitching religion to me? That's not why I'm on the platform. And usually most people's stream rules are, don't bring up religion because it's so divisive.

So I kind of think he would be a trash streamer actually And he'd probably get kicked I don't know about kicked But like everybody would kind of just hate him So I'd probably put him in like C T, yeah maybe F actually Because like preachy V-tubers Like just preaching about like anime in general

Kind of like is whatever But like when you start going off on like religious tangents About who you should worship and who you should follow Yeah I think Lorgre would make a shit Just streamer in general I love how you went from C to F immediately. Didn't even consider a theory. Yeah. Well, because I looked at C and it was like, well, there's Con and Dorn.

And it's like, I don't think Lorgar's that. I think Lorgar's maybe a little worse than that. If we're looking at him like he was a preachy religious streamer, that is, you don't, you know, mm-mm. Nope, don't like it. Don't like it. Yeah, that's fair. No one wants to get preached at when they're trying to just relax and eat whatever they've. Yeah.

No one likes to be. told who they should worship. That's, uh, that's a bad vibe, Lorgar. Get off Twitch, you heathen. You know, is, are there any religious tanks back in the day? I'm just, you know what? I'm just trying to think like, he literally just transforms into the crusade. It just, I thought it just turns into, just turns into a cathedral. That's all it is. Um, I mean, I, I, I, I guess like, maybe bashing rams in like, in like the crusades, but they're not really tanks, are they? I think he's got to be low. He's got to be low on the list because I feel like most of the real estate on whatever tank he turned into would be taken up by like church organ pipes.

I mean, basically, is that a roaming chapel? What is that? Because if that is what, I mean, that kind of, that might be him. It might be him. Chapel on wheels. Yeah, just a church on wheels. Not even any guns. Just a church on wheels.

I mean, we could be really uncharitable and say that he's a church on wheels. which puts him ultra low F, or we could say the exorcist that the sisters of battle get, but that is an imperial tank, and chaos don't have anything like it. So would you even want to become that? I think he'd probably be happier

to be a church on wheels, honestly. Hey, if you were towing that church on wheels, would you be a holy driver? Huh? Mr. Electric. Skin him alive. Like this, okay. Mr. Electric, spin him around all that you like.

spin him around. Okay, fine, that's a minus two. But listen, holy diver, great song, right? You've been gone too long in the midnight sea. You know, this might be divisive. I actually want to put Lorgar at S. I know you do. That doesn't surprise me at all, dude.

Because it's the correct choice. I really, really like Lorgar. He's such a shithead. And he's such a good villain. Like, I don't like him. I don't like, I don't like him as a, as a character, but I really like him as just a bad guy. Yeah. He's just, he's got really interesting reasons.

His rationale is fascinating. He's, he's like, Gilman said that one thing is like, he's quick to anger, like a child. And I, I think I kind of agree with him. And yeah, it's like, it's almost, if I'm being honest, I feel like he starred the heresy more than anything Horace ever did. you know? I mean, yeah. What's you read? Let's you read the first heretic.

I think everyone gets a good appreciation of Lorgar. Yeah. And like with like with Lorgar like the buildup actually matters. Like we said with Horace, the buildup doesn't mean anything. With Lorgar like the build up matters. Monarchy gets burned. And then it's like this snowball that just keeps going down, down, down, down. And yeah, as far as like a character and a villain, he's, I don't.

I don't hate that you want to put him in S. It feels like his justification for joining the side that he joined for me. Oh, yeah. So justified for him. It's better than Horace's. Like, that might be a bit controversial in the love itself, but like the way that he was treated and like the success rate that the word bearers had before he was, before they were shamed,

it's like it was going well. It was working. And he was the most devoted of all of them. and then he got punished for it. And it's like, well, what do you think is going to happen after you do that? It's like another example of the emperor being just outright awful at managing his own general slash sons. But Lorgar starts out, like, maybe misguided, but pure, and then just ends up being this incredible architect of just chaos and pain and madness.

And it's great. The Imperium broke him. Yeah. I wish Horace had had that actually. Like, if they were going to retcon a story, retcon that stupid poison knife and put like a really interesting story like that in for Horace as to why he broke and decided to go rogue. Anyway.

Yeah, I love Horace. It's just not Horace. I said Horace. I love Lorgar. I hate Horace. I love Lorgar. You know, when, when, if Horace had a monarchia situation, It would be different.

Watching his Jerusalem get burned to the ground sanctioned by his father snapped him. And, you know, also he also had, you know, character development with his years of parental abuse that he suffered. You know, like there's actual development to him. So good up for a little regard. Yeah. Now I kind of wish that they'd retcon Horace's backstory and make, and give him his own. What backstory? That's true.

You'd have to have a story. to Redcon it, right? I think it just proves that really, uh, Logar is the main character of the heresy. I don't hate that opinion. I do not hate that opinion. All right, I got a one in three chance, right? Yep, which one is it? Tell us now.

Uh, it's Vulcan. Nice. Let's go! I thought you were going to say, ah, screwed it up. Let's go, Vulcan. Hell yeah. Whose turn is it to read? Mine, Kiryovs? I think it's mine.

Okay, go for it. Let's see here. Vulcan. He is almost doomed to be locked into F tier due to his inherent niceness and aversion to brutal, senseless murder. He also died more times than any other Primark aside from maybe Angron, which lowers the score considerably. However, burning a child alive has to count for something. So E for Eldar child for you, Vulcan. Wow.

All right. All right. Yep. Got to lean into that Eldar child burning, right? You got to do it. even though he felt real, real, real bad about it. Yep. Still did it, though, didn't he?

He did, he still did it. He still did it. I think Vulcan would be a pretty good V-tuber streamer. You know, he's a good guy. He'd give good dad energy, really good dad energy. He'd probably have kind of a scuffed model that maybe wasn't the best, didn't have a lot of toggles. But everybody would come for, like, his personality. And, like, even though he's got, like, that dad energy, they'd be like, yeah, but I don't really

want to mess with this guy either. Like, he's one of those people that's like, oh, yeah, he's always nice. And then it's like, when you see him mad, it's like, oh, God, oh, God, he's terrifying. So yeah, I think, I think he'd be a high A. High A, high A dad streamer. He'd be like that

that grandpa that plays Cod and is like a retired Navy sniper where he's like really wholesome. And, but he's like, he will dome the fad of you no matter where you are on the map. I watch, I sometimes see

like little videos of this old guy who plays Battlefield and he's like maybe I think he's like a retired sniper or something and that's probably what it is. I don't know my military game, sorry. I remember specifically that person maybe you saw it on your feet as well so. Yeah, yeah, my YouTube shorts.

He shows up all the time. I don't know how he ended up there, but yeah, it's very entertaining. He's incredible. Yeah. I feel like Vulcan would give that energy. Definitely. Curia?

Tankwise. I mean, something borderline indestructible, right? Something that has more armor than anything else. I reckon also a little bit, maybe a little bit heavy on the flame throwers. Just a little bit. I'm trying to remember what version there was... A little bit.

Just a little bit heavy on the flamethrowers. He's just a dragon personified, but maybe a little flame thrown. Yeah, just a tiny bit. Just a little bit. Does he just turn into the... what is it called? I think it's the Macarius tank that's just got a gigantic

flamer on it with a little like canister of fuel that it toes behind it. I think it's that and I think that's what he is. I think that's probably what he is. Can we just hit it right on the nose

and have him turn into like the Mecca dragon from Mega Man 2 when you get to Wiley's Castle he's like the first boss and just have him be like a literal dragon robot? I'm going to have to look that up. It's an old reference. I'm not sure why that was the first thing that came to mine.

It's an old one, but I think it checks out. I reckon, I reckon, do we do, do, B, do B. It's situational, but useful. I mean, if you want to, you know, melt in targets for people. B or A, I think is pretty good. I feel like tank-wise, from strength, you can put them in A, but from, like, flame-throwers being your main option for armament, you can put them in B. Yeah, let's go, let's go, hi B.

High B, all right. What's that show where they build robots that have, like, swinging hammers that come from the top? I feel like he could have one of those, too. Robot Wars. Oh, wait, no, battlebox for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And have the big old fucking hammer that's,

I feel like he'd have one of those too. What is it called? A shriemec, a self-writing mechanism. Why do I remember that? That show hasn't been on in this country since, I believe, like, 1999. Still know what that's called. That's bad. I,

you know what, Vulcan, I might be hypocritical for saying this because Vulcan, I put Per Chirabo in B because it's mainly just like, people like him for all of his petulants, but the background of him isn't too great.

I feel like the exact same situation is there with Vulcan, but I just like him a little bit more, so I'm putting him in the bottom of A. I'm just, I'm just okay with it. I can be a total hypocrite here and I'm okay with it.

that Per Trouabo and I think Vulcan have the exact same issue which is you know there's not as much lore regarding them as I'd like and I well I think per Trouba maybe is a little bit more interesting Vulcan does have a bit more of a bit more class and so I just you know

I think he's fine today he's fine of A bottom of A yeah yeah yeah he's Vulcan he's a perpetual whatever All right Corax Let's let's run we've been recording for two hours

round this shit out. Holy shit. Oh, wow. Really? Okay. All right. Good luck editing this show. DK, you're up.

Korax. As the man of the people and freedom fighter, he's not really that great at mass murder, unfortunately. He got his ass kicked the hardest and his legion was almost wiped out during the drop site. He is mainly master of sabotage, psychological warfare, and subterfuge. And in many ways, very curse-coated, just with less get mean. No disrespect to the man But he is a depressed punching bag

Who ran away into the warp Because he was too sad Men will literally go to space hell Instead of going to therapy D tier on the kill meter I feel that I can understand that one Yeah I'm with you on that one

Yep Yep Um Hmm How would he do as I don't think he would do well as a streamer I think he would like Try it out for a little bit

boring? Well, so I think he would be boring and then he wouldn't get any views and that would make him super sad and he would just stop streaming and just go like sit in a hole somewhere. Oh, so, okay. So if Bricky is Magnus, then Corax is me. Okay, we've got for the hierarchy. Perfect. Perfect. We've made it clear. Wow. Not what I'm not the road I was expecting it to go to. Yeah, shi sad boy streamer, but he breaks down every time someone tells him that he sucks. Yeah, if someone, if someone critiqued him at all, he'd be like, fine, I'm ending my stream. You guys go. I'm never coming back.

But yeah, he or he would just get very down on himself because he didn't have any views and, and he would just be like, no, I'm quitting. I'm out of here. I'm never coming back unless somebody says they want me. So maybe like F. He's probably an F streamer. I believe it. Yeah.

I imagine he's probably an F tank as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, what would even? The treads are just on backwards. So he can always run away. I'm going to say he's still. land-based, but he has got like rocket propulsion, but it's not helpful. Like it doesn't actually achieve anything. It just makes him go a bit faster until he runs into something. Also,

given that they control themselves, they're like piloting their own vehicles because they are them. I'm going to say that the second he gets stuck, he's out. He's a liability at that point. He doesn't want to play anymore. He doesn't want to be on the battlefield. He got stuck in a trench, and now he's just having a sulk and he's not he's just refusing to help so solid solid f tank believe it believe it uh corax is to me uh like a like a final i'm trying to keep it i'm trying to keep it mostly pretty uh mostly pretty like even in terms of the of the tier list i probably put corax also in like c tier um like probably probably top though top of c maybe bottom of b you know top of c bottom of b you know, top of C, bottom of B, give or take.

You know, Corex is fine. He's not particularly fascinating. He's got some, you know, I like his, they really need to go more into the Freedom Fighter thing. They really need to go more into like the, oh, we're here to like really rise up against our oppressors and kind of go against the, go a little bit harder in like the hypocrisy

that he's part of the Imperium, but he also wants to be like rising up against the oppressors. Because there's a little bit of good hypocrisy. you can kind of mess around with it in there, but it's okay. I just like the way the Ravenguard look. They do look very cool. I love my giant jump packs, man. You put a giant jump pack on your chapter, and you got me.

It doesn't even matter if you're like the worst of the worst, and you just genocide everything you come across. If you got a sick jump pack, I'm on board. All that matters is that you have a sick jump pack. Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah. Tallgeese is my favorite Gundam. That's all you need to know.

Fair? Even I understand that. Oh, thank God. I'm making anime references that Bricky gets. I am on my game. You made two anime references that involve like mechs. Yeah, mex. All right, let's round this shit out.

Alfarious. Alfarious. Alfarious. All right. Alfarious and Omogon are kind of interesting with their pursuit of the greater good while rejecting all the morals, but reigning snakes ain't quite enough for my taste.

They killed a lot of people by causing civil wars, poisonings, assassinations and other things, but they are very far away from senseless killers in both their sentimentalities and actions, so they ain't welcome in this house, except for the 2000 point Alpha Legion army I'm building shut up. Sadly, we have to send Alfie into the C tier. Wow, really? Okay, I thought they were going to be at least a high A with how much shenanigans they cause, but all right. It's A, it's your tier list. You use it how you want. I feel like Alfarious would have like 13 different V-Tuber models and would only ever use like text of speech, but with various types of other voices and like gender and genders so that you have no idea.

Okay. Yes to all of that. But I'm, I'm putting Alfarious into S-tier for another reason. So everything you said totally would agree with would say that he would have a billion different models. He would be, he would probably be really good at. games, but the reason he'd be a great streamer is because Alfarious would be the kind of guy that would absolutely

view-bought his own stream and do like the embed stream hacks. So it like, he might only have like three actual viewers, but the view count shows like 20 million people are watching and everybody would be very impressed. But he would do it so good that it would fool Twitch and even Twitch would pay him ungodly amounts of money. So yeah, I think Alfarious would be a successful viewbodding

douchebag streamer that is somehow successful. I kind of see it, yeah. He would docks people. Yeah, he would definitely docks and swap people who talk shit about like, oh, you're just, you're just view by and he'd be like, oh, really? And yeah, that's him to a T. And frame someone else to make it look like they'd done it as well. Yeah, he would pin it on someone else successful.

He would get someone else canceled. And he would just get all of his, he would just make a, or he'd make a bunch of clones that are actually watching the stream so it didn't look like he was viewbodding. He's the entire Alpha Legion. It's required to have the entire Alpha Legion watch the stream as part of their training.

Yeah, in their in their like Space Marine headset, you know, with all the displays, the stream is always in the corner. When you turn on the helmet, the stream just goes live. Picture within picture. Yeah, picture and picture, exactly. Way to go, Alfarious. What a guy.

Would he become too, tanks, Kirovo? Oh, 100%. I reckon probably this might be the worst thing that I can think of that is also the most, like, the most apt. Is he not just the Tumblr from the Dark Night, where if it crashes, suddenly there's actually another vehicle inside all along and the job can continue? Oh, that's a good call. Can jump about a bit. You know, you never know where he is or what's happening,

despite the fact that it's a massive, like a massive vehicle with a jet engine on the back of it. But if things go wrong, just unleash the bike, carry on as though nothing happened. It's shenanigans all the way down with that vehicle. I feel like it's the most appropriate. Oh, yeah, that is good. On an actual battlefield, though, kind of bad.

So. Yeah, and then even when people see it, the guy's like, oh, I saw your creation out there panicking cars and it's like, are you really going to blackmail Alfarious? Yeah. So as a tank, good luck.

It's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be D because on a battlefield is not great. But for shenanigan purposes, it would be all the way up there. We do love shenanigan purposes. We do. Holy shh.

So we all have our respective tier lists. We've done it. I mean, to end, mine up real quick. He goes and B, the most B of all bees. He's hidden, sneaking around directly in the middle of the entire tier list.

In all actuality, Alferius has some really fun stuff, but at the same time in order to maintain the, are they, aren't they? Maybe, are they maybe not? Who's what's going to where? They have to keep that up and because they have to keep that up, it makes it a little bit like annoying

to be, to actually like give them any real lore because it's all, it all can be bullshit. So you don't really get a whole lot of actual intrigue sometimes because of that reason. So, yeah, it's, it's fine. It's not great, but it's, it's

perfectly fine. And I think perfectly fine is enough, is enough. A bee is the most. He is indeed the most B of all bees. Yeah, you just don't know. Yeah. All right. And two hours later,

that is our tier list. Oh, man. And here I thought this was going to be a like a relatively quick episode or it was just like bang, bang, bang. And nope. I think it's because we did like, we technically did four separate tier lists in one video. We did. Instead of just all of us discussing where the primarks go on a general one list. That would have been a, yeah, but you know, since we basically did four tier lists, one being a serious bricky one, a shy murder list, a tank list and a how did they do it's fucking V-2? I'll be honest. I felt like the premise of mine fell apart almost immediately. Same. We did kind of force that one upon you, if I'm being honest. We did. We did. Sorry, Kyria. I did my best.

You did well. I think given your off-the-cuff topic, I think you did rather well salvaging that. Hell yeah. It should be totally good. As far as I'm concerned, I'm fine with all the ones we did so far. I'm cool with it. I'm feeling all right Yep Little little Actually a little tired But you know

Two hour recording sessions Will do that to you But yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm cool with that Sorry viewers If you were hoping for a normal tier list You came to the wrong channel

Come on be fair They got one Expecting normal content They got a normal tier list They just got three extras as well They just got extra They just got more More than

More like they got The Deafs definition of more for your money how does it feel to be the normal one for a change Bricky

someone had to do it shy yeah for a change yeah for a change yeah for a change you know I feel I feel like in the average

yeah you know what screw it everyone Brick is like I just want to go I want to get out of here I need to go I need to go eat food

there's your dang tear list have a good one everyone thanks for watching it help you enjoyed it I hope

and I hope you left unsatisfied. I hope you have a good rest of your day at least.