Adeptus Ridiculous - ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN AND THE ULTRAMARINES (But mostly Guilliman) | Warhammer 40k lore

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

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I'm one of your host, D.K. Diamantis. And on the Adeptus Ridiculous, we are all about the ridiculous. And my co-host, Bricky, is going to be sharing some really crazy stuff. Last episode, we talked about the fall of Cadya, which, well, there's a lot of, there was a lot there. It was really interesting episode. But before we get in today's episode, which is apparently the revival of Robot Giliman, uh, Patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. if you enjoy today's podcast. You'll get access to things like the Discord, bloopers,

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what is it like the conclusion of the fall of Acadia? Sort of? It's already a little, a little bit. Oh, we haven't told you, quite yet, but of course, I need to do my quick announcements. Oh, yeah, geez, I forgot. Sorry.

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snagging a little bit of that. Also, we are coming close to June, and that means that we are coming close to the first episode of the book club, which will be on, again, the book, The Infinite and the Divine. If you haven't started reading that or listening to it on Audible, personally, I prefer listening to it because I think the VA does a lot of extra, he has a lot of emphasis to it. Go ahead and get started on that. It's not super long, but still, I don't want, like, I think our next episode will be on, what, like Wednesday. We'll be on the second. and then the episode probably come out on like the fifth, or like the fourth.

So it'll be pretty soon, pretty early in June. So you only got a little bit over a week to get that stuff done. Anywho, that was all I had to do in terms of shilling, exceptional shilling. I'm just about done with the infinite and the divine. And, ooh, I can't wait to talk about it, dude. I cannot wait to talk about that. The second half gets surprisingly good and, like, surprisingly deep.

It's really good. It does. It does. Okay. Okay, okay. We need to focus on today's episode. That's the book club episode that we're all very excited for. We've got to focus on the aftermath of the fall of Kadia. The planet crack before the guard did. Yeah, you thought, bitch. That's not what we're doing today. Oh, no, really?

No, we're not actually doing the aftermath of Kadya. Oh, shit. What are we doing? Okay. You sound excited. I'm very sorry that I'm going to have to crush your dreams right now. That's okay. It would be a little bit unfortunate to cover good old Roboot Gilliman without doing the Ultramarines first. So we're doing the Ultramarines episode. You know something? Ultramarines episode.

You know something? In my head, I was legit thinking that. I was like, okay, so I know he said that next episode, he's going to talk about the, like, the revival of Robot Gilman. I was like, we ain't even done Ultramarines. I don't know shit about Robot Gilliman. So like, somehow he's got to twirl this around. someone that doesn't know the lore of the Ultramarines, how's he going to do that?

So this makes sense. I'm down, actually. Because it's obviously, okay, so there's obviously a few things. One, it's no secret that not a lot of people are a big fan of, whoa, let me rephrase that. Ultramarines are like, we're like nickel back a decade ago, right?

Oh, boy, that bad. They're not, no, no, it's, they're not particularly bad, but everyone just really likes to hate on them like they're not terrible you know I don't is pretty bad though even when people like them they were still pretty shit I mean

eh I don't know look at this photo right I mean come on okay that was a great meme when it was around but point point being is that I think more people hate ultramarines that even know about ultramarines

and we're guilty about that a little bit present yep We've memed on them quite a bit. Again, so I did all the research for the Ultramarines. There is a lot. Oh, my God. There is so much more. I'm going to cover a probably decent amount of it, but oh, ma'am.

However, after reading it, I can confirm two things. One, the Ultramarines are not as bad as people say they are. And two, And two, Gilliman is a fucking boy scout. That's what I've heard. I've heard that Gilliman is amazing. You may hate the Ultramarines,

but you've got to respect Gilliman. That's what you keep telling me every time I try and shit on everything Ultramarine. It's like, no, no, you got to respect Gilliman because he's a fucking Chad and he's great and he's amazing and I guess, fine, whatever. He is a Chad. He is still a Boy Scout.

Like, he's like a, a straight edge. It's hard to describe them. I'll get into it and you'll understand. But it is interesting regardless. So let's go ahead and get started into the good old blueberries. I feel like some people might have a little bit more of an appreciation for them after today, if only slightly. So, Gilliman, our big man, is not only heavily, heavily documented across the Imperium.

He is a primark that has almost all of his power. meticulously detailed because he is him, Giliman, as opposed to so many other the primarks, but he's also pretty good-looking. He's a, you know, he's a good-looking guy. A lot of the Primarks, a lot of space marines just look really ugly because they're all fucking scarred up or gross or like have all these like injection ports and shit in their face and neck and stuff. Gilliman's a good-looking man.

He's got, he's got that, that suave look to him. He's got that jaw line, you know? And Gilliman, he was, obviously, we all know, got yeated into the warp, all the pods. He arrived on Macrogg or McCrag. Also, there's going to be some pronunciation weirdness. I'm going to teach you how to say Gilliman properly. And it's not great.

It's not, William? Well, his last name is Gilliman. His first name, we always call robot or whatever. You know, his first name is Robutei. Oh, no, he's a robot. I'm sorry, I'm not saying Robutee Gilliman. Robutee. His name is Robote Gilliman.

Robboot, Bobboop. Beat Boop, robot Gilliman. That's... Robo Gorilla Man. We always... Roebote. You call him Robote, if you like. Robote Gilliaman.

Because he roboats the Eldari. Let's go. Anyway, go ahead. We're not there yet. That's the next episode. Oh, sorry, sorry. I just know that's one of the memes. Well, well, our good man, our good man, Rabutei, Ro Eldar Butte, sorry.

He arrived to McCrag, all right? McCrag, the home world, the Ultramarines. Now, this, unlike so many other of the Primarcs, this was a pretty normal world. It wasn't too great. It wasn't too bad. It was, it was fine. And it was, on the fringe of space to some other of the Imperium's old colonies, way, back in the day of the age of strife.

Wait, no. Age of strife? Yes, age of strife. Back with the warp storms and ship. Yeah, these worlds had survived. And they still maintained a decent social order and hierarchy there. But like, not perfect. Holy shit.

I just think just a bunch of different names for robot, for Robo. Bobby G. String. Bobby G. Sting, robust girly man, robot gorilla man. Ro, beauty, guillotine. Rob, but girly man, there you go. G. Man.

Wait, T.S. Gratius, get in the van? What? Rob. Just rob. Every possible combination of the previous nickname. Big Blue Mary Sue. The Emperor's Personator. Bobby McGillicuddy. Rumble, boffin counterpudge.

The greatest little derivative pile of blueberry pudding pop fuckery that has ever glazed the service of this shitty little galaxy. Okay, I feel like that's a little extreme. I don't know anybody calls him. This sounds like she got this from 1D 4chan. This reeks of 1D4CEN. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. 1D4Cain, great for memes, by the way. Yeah, great for memes.

Not great for everything else. Anyway, so this area in McCrack still had like spacecraft short-range travel, kept them in check with like their recent neighbors as well. Like it was a functioning society. So when his capsule land him, the people like they found it when they were just hunting in the woods or whatever, just some regular old folk. And this wasn't seen as something like superstitious or wild or anything. They were like, whoa, that's an advanced fucking capsule that fell from the sky. And they opened it and there was a baby inside of it. They're like, shit, there's a kid in here.

Like they were pretty normal And this child was taken to the noble governor Of the largest capital city of McCrug Known as Konor Giliman And he found the son And he's like, I will name you Robute Gilliman and he adopted him as his own kid Okay

Pretty that's where the name comes from Yep, he got from his foster father And like most primarks He grew a little faster than he should have Significantly more than the average person. He showed like insane amounts of determination, intelligence. At the age of 10, he mastered like most of the major tutor subjects for school. He like, he mastered the arts as well, philosophy, history, understanding of human nature, psychology. But he was most adept, of course,

at the art of war. And that was a big part of McCragg culture. They like to fight a lot. They weren't like barbarians or anything, but they were a little bit more industrial and a little bit more like do you play endless space too? Nope. All right, it's fine. Anyway, what

what did you think I was going to say? This always happens, man. Endless space two, it's like space civilization is for boomers. Well, not this boomer. Yeah, whatever, man. Go listen to the weekend. Okay.

he's really good and then no one's going to know that we had a whole conversation about the weekend before we start this episode that's true that's true now they know they just have no context to it

but now they know we had one and they get to deal with him when he uh when he was in a legal age he was given a force like a little force of military to pacify some of the northern lands of McCraugh as some assholes, raiders, people out there

he arrived and he was able to sway the opposing raiders and forces like he gained their respect of the war bands and he like pacified the group sometimes with force but he was able to pacify the whole group and get them working together because he was just a really

good diplomat but when he came home he found his capital city in like total fucking chaos the a co-counselman of his father named Gallin he led a coup against his foster dad and this was hardly like a new thing this was like

a Tuesday on McCrogg. But in this instance, it was a little bit more hefty. It was all about political power and money that his foster father had got him and a little bit worrisome of his new like foster son's position because he's young and incredibly large and intelligent and scary. Lots of politics at play here. The long sort of it is that this guy Gallim and his conspiracers were all a bunch of aristocrats and an old aristocracy. And they were mainly led by a lot of impoverished young people, like the poor. And Konor was a hardcore industrialist.

And so with all of his major industry, he made the people very wealthy. And the aristocracy or the aristocrats kind of lost their power quite a bit because the aristocrats really relied on the poor to gain their wealth. And Konor was quite the industrialist. He was very much like meritocracy. He made massive like sweeping infrastructure changes for the city, which made him nearly untouchable in the eyes of the people because they fucking loved him for that.

And so obviously this is where the coup came in. The aristocrats wanted the power back. Oh, yeah, I imagine they would. They don't want the people having power and money. They wanted all of themselves. Also, how do you trust a guy named Gallen? Like, that's like the Sultan being like, oh, yes, my advice. Jafar. He's very loyal. There's nothing. He has a snake staff red and black. He's fine. He would

never but, his name is Galen for God's sakes. Like, really? It's like, oh, I don't worry. We're a peaceful nation. You know, just ask our good leader, Gose Van Dyer. He's like, a who now? He's a swell guy. Don't worry about his swell. So, so Galen went town. He led a big like, well, obviously the coup, as I mentioned before, but between his own military force, he raided the palace, and then he got a bunch of drunken mob to go out and like burn down cities, go murder people, backed by them, all that stuff. So when Gilliman arrived, he was like, oh shit. And he let the looters get dealt with by his troops. He said, hey, troops that I just returned with, deal with the rioters, deal with the looters. I'm going to go get my dad. So he made his way all the way to the palace And found it just riddled with bullets And just mass destruction And he found his father in the care of the medics

And his father, Conor, is a fucking chad He survived an assassination attempt against him I'm not quite sure what it was Whether there was like a bullet that grazed his head Or like a poisoning or whatever But he was crippled for three days In the medic's care and in those three days between surgeries,

between like massive operations and being like dying, he commanded and instructed the entire counter-offensive to keep the palace safe. He was like, he was like the general being like, go secure this flag, do all this. And it's like, doctor, put the scalpel away. We'll get this done later. This whole time.

So in and out of like surgeries and medical procedures, he was just like, yeah, and he was giving orders to like stop the coup? Yeah, the palace besides like the destruction in there was mostly secure because this dude was leading his forces. And it's like, damn, Gilman's dad is cool. That's impressive. That's pretty dip.

That dip, that dip, dope. That dead dip, buy that dip. Yeah, buy that dip. Need that dip. Jesus. So, Gilliman then after a bit, was talking with his dad. His dad told him everything who attacked him,

confined all the people and that stuff. And then his dad shortly after passed away, of course. From his wounds. Yeah, from his wounds. And he told him everything whose blood, like whose fault it was and whose blood was on their hands. And Gilliman's cold and collected attitude was nowhere to be found in the next coming week. Oh boy, I bet he went on a rampage. He was not pleased with his like just art of like war, his genius mind in terms of

battlefield. He crushed the rebellion just like outright extremely easily within days and then he found all of the conspirators, conspirators and the rioters and he took the rioters and drunken mob and he had them publicly hung in the streets and

and hung across like the roads and then he got both the gallon guy and his conspiracers and put them out under public execution and he was just like don't do this and he just publicly killed them all let this be an example

oh man that's sounds like he could use that rage like three days earlier when his dad was still alive but yeah but he wasn't there at the time the catalyst

was necessary to get him to go ultra mode the catalyst was helpful he had to pull out a little bit of his Conrad Kerr's side apparently you know it's like a little public executions you know let's just make it that way

yeah that's how you stop crime right learn from your brother So then after that He now assumed the mantle of where his father Used to be and he went quick work to rebuild the city Going full on industrial And really overall Doing some pretty insane upgrades to the city

To the point where the aristocracy Was basically all but dead Either publicly executed or losing so much power That they were just as useful as a minor citizen And then You love to hear that You love to hear on the aristocracy It's what they fucking deserve.

Oh, he stoked. It was great. Starting to like him more and more now. And not only that, but he went to work on, like, the actual people. Like, new workers and soldiers were given benefits and rewards, like, GI Bills. Like, if you served to assist in the infrastructure or you were a soldier, you got, like, homes, benefits. A Veterans Association that actually fucking works. like McCraugh became like a self-sufficient meritocracy

it was a place where the hardworking and the intelligent thrived extremely well and those who tried to skirt the law or try to undermine it would either be poor or punished sounds like a good place to be it's it's not bad no he was very much like you put you you get what are you get what you put in if you work hard you are rewarded in a in a society that actually does benefit that.

It's not like, hey, you know, work hard, make money. Get fucked over, right? Yeah, well, problems might occur. But no, it's legitimately like, hey, you do well. And by then, this is about where the emperor finally made his way. Oh, no, he's going to fuck everything up, isn't he? I was about to say, McCrag sounds like, as far as 40K is concerned, right? McCrack sounds like a paradise where you just, you go.

there, you work hard, you get paid, everything is swell. And then the goddamn emperor shows up. Oh, the emperor actually showed up in an interesting way. He actually arrived when Gilman was out to go fight those enemies and raiders in the field when he left for his first thing. However, because so the multiple planets that they actually still in contact with knew of the new Konor Giliman's son. And they were like, yeah, the crazy sun, the really big one that's like really intelligent. And the emperor was like, I know who that is. And but unfortunately, because this is what happens all the time, apparently, is that a giant

warp storm happened. And that forced the emperor to not be able to make it to McCrogg for another five more years of travel. And meanwhile, during that period of time, Gilliman was hard at work. He was maintaining infrastructure, creating trade routes between the other plants and local system, he was slowly building out his influence into not just other systems, but other like, or other planets, but other systems entirely. Uh, and it's so much so that when the emperor arrived, he was so fucking pleased.

He didn't, he didn't change anything. Oh, wow. No, he was like, wow, I don't need to strip this down or deal with any of the issues. Like, this is, this is good. I'm, like, the emperor arrived, he was extremely happy. Like, this is extremely, like, this is extremely, well made and immediately once he arrived Gilliman just swore allegiance like

that because he was too smart to think that he had been birthed normally I'm pretty sure I was created or something and then like oh there he is there's the creator there's yep yep I mean it makes sense it is it does it really does he didn't fix anything

the emperor was just like oh yeah this is all perfect I don't need to do anything you you've done it you're the 40k now right you are the you truly are the you truly are the Warhammer That's pretty impressive, though, that the emperor was just like, oh, yeah, I'm so happy. I'm a happy camper and everything is perfect and I will touch nothing.

That's, that's a big deal, right? Like, usually the emperor finds something like, oh, yeah, this is mostly right, but let's tweak it. Like, that's a big deal. Oh, he might, he might change something, but, like, comparing to him arriving on the Stromo and Conrad Kurz's rule, like, he... Or like when he showed up for Mortarian. Yeah, it's just like... Let me kill your dad.

This smells like shit. That's because it is dad. It's my shit. It's my shit. I stank it up. It's my dad to kill. Get out of here. So obviously he arrived with his current Marine chapter.

And Gilman, he didn't think a lot like his other Primarks. He saw his Legion. as way more than weapons. He thought that war was more than weapons. War was supply chains and trade routes and manufactorums of weapons in a steady stream of repopulated soldiers. Like, Gilliman thought war is waged

on the drawing board and the conveyor belt, not the ground. Like, that was his mindset when it came to war. So not only when McCrug, like normally whenever you get new recruits for a Legion, it comes from the home world. For him, it would be Macrogg. However, he would decide that, no, it wouldn't just be from Macrogg.

I'm going to get it from my entire new area. All the plants that I have in the Macrogg system or something he referred to as Ultramar. Ultramar is this large sphere of space that got recruits from a large amount of planets. It was like an ever-expanding sphere of influence entirely under the guise of Gilliman and his ultramarines. Because...

Okay. I got a, I'll do this quote later on, but he's quite the, he's quite the intelligent, like, um, what's the term I'm looking for? It's, it's very much the, the guy who's all about, like, the infrastructure and the understanding of, like, production wise, you know? Mm-hmm. He's very... The Ultramar, though.

What a dumb name. Ultramar is a little silly, yes. For such a smart guy, he comes up with some dumb name. I think there was a. reason for it. I don't remember why. He called it Ultramar. Well, come on. Where else do Ultramarans come from? But the Ultramar, they're Marines from the Ultramar. Come on. It was called Ultramar first, and then it became the Ultramarines named after Ultramar. Whatever. I know. I know it's a little, it's a little derpy. I told you he's a Boy Scout.

He is a Boy Scout. That means, so that's another reason I hate the Ultramarmer. because it's a dumb name and a dumb origin for a name, but Roe Boy Gilliman is still pretty, pretty great. He's a smart man, and he understands the importance of figuring out supply chains and strength through it. Now, he taught, like, a very specific way of thinking. It's a dual doctrine.

One side is about courage, discipline, skill, and adaptability. That's the practical side of war. The other was planning, precedent, analysis, and assessment. which for him was the theoretical side. And he was, again, he's, yeah, he's a nerd, I know. But he really got this part down. He's like an accountant who loves his job. It's very, it's very silly.

But during the Great Crusade itself, the Ultramarines liberated more worlds than any of the other legions. And this is mainly due to Gilliman's love for government. And his love for government. Love that government. And their size. Like, he didn't just make sure the world's went under him. He set up a self-sustaining government system.

He created support defenses and orbital stations. He truly made sure that these plans that he liberate would be self-sufficient and useful outposts for the ultramarines that they ever needed to come back. Like, new recruits were brought in from the slowly expanding Ultramar system to increase the strength. Like, when Horace founded, became Warmaster, I think the Ultramarines who had 250,000 Marines, and the second

largest was the word bearers at like 100,000? Wow. They were very big. It's quite a bit. Well, I guess it makes sense. If every planet you liberate, you're like setting up an infrastructure where it can contribute and be self-sustaining, you're going to amass

a pretty fucking big army real quick that way. That's pretty smart. Hell yeah. And also, it's kind of interesting because Okay, I know you probably haven't played this game either But have you played Frost Punk? That's the one where like your city's in perpetual winter And you got to make it survive

I played a little bit Not a time, I have it, played a little bit So I've actually been playing it a lot recently I really like it I also like really depressing Polish games So that's a depressing Polish game But I was playing it recently and I feel like people who really like Frostpunk, which is a great game, to those listening, it's a great game.

You should try it. It's like, I want to sound like a games journalist, but I'm just going to say it anyway. It's the Dark Souls of City Builders. Oh, man, there's a, there's someone's hitting the thumbs down now. You know that, right? Somebody just click the Thumbs. I'm clicking the thumbs down in the future just for that. It's a very hard city builders.

there. Anyway, if you're the kind of person who really likes, like, you really enjoy, like, industry and infrastructure, because there's a whole fucking science about figuring out how to properly maintain, like, infrastructure and economy and trade and government. Like, there's a huge science behind that stuff. People make millions of dollars to figure this shit out.

And if you like that stuff really, like hard, you're probably like Gilliman quite a bit. Oh, yeah, definitely. Because that's his whole thing, is, like, supply route. and chains and infrastructure. Hell, when Horace became war master, when he was finally given Warmaster after the, I forget exactly the war's name,

but the big Orkwa and right after that, he actually like, unlike a lot of his other brothers, oh, triumph of Ulinar, that was what was called. Unlike his other brothers, Gilliman was like, okay, Horace is the Warmaster. He accepted this without any resentment. even though Horace kind of believed that Gilliman would have been a better fit.

It kind of sounds that way. Like, I mean, considering what he's done with Ultramar, Um... Ultramar. Ultramar. Ultramar. Ultramar.

Come with a better name, you fucker. It does sound like he'd make a great war master. Like, he would be a great person to lead, uh, the emperor's armies. Like, that's, uh, you know, he sounds pretty great. He lacks a little bit of charisma. He's not that bad.

Horace, don't forget, Horace is like a fucking saint. Everyone loved him to death. Now, what could be wrong? Comparing him to Rogel Dohrin in terms of charisma, he's also a saint. But, you know, he's a boy scout. He likes his, he likes making his stuff. He likes making his stuff.

Your cat is named Ultranian. And my sword is named Ultra Stab. Oh, no. That's probably what he would name it, too. It's like, Dad, my sword is now called Ultrasab, and Emperor's like, no, no, no, no, no. We didn't have this conversation. He's like, like, versus memory?

No, you didn't. It's just a sword. Get away. The, like, Empress, like, rattling his bones in his chair. He's like, he keeps naming things Ultra. I can't move. I'm just bones. Get him out of here.

I'm so angry. He's like, hey, dad, how's it like on your ultra throne? And he's just like, ah! The bones just slowly decay into dust. And he's like, I'm out. Okay. So, quote time. Quote time.

Let's go. Quote time. Space Marines excel at warfare because they were designed to excel at everything. Each of you will become a ruler, a leader, the master of your world. And then when there is no more fighting to be done, you will bend your talents to order, governance, and culture so that the Imperium will stand eternal. That was Gilman. Gilman to his chapter masters and space marines was like,

hey, guys, I mean, I don't think he knew about what happened with the Thunder Warriors, but he was like, hey, we can't just be for war. Like, eventually there will be no more war. At least he thought so. And when there is no, and when there's no more war, you are going to need to rule planets. You are going to need to be governors. You are going to need to be actual, like,

you're going to need to foster culture and people. And you're not going to just be a weapon for war. You're actually going to need to lead, and you're going to make your people happy. And he realized that. Like so many other people are just like, I'm bred for war and war alone. He's like, guys, we got to study the book of laws.

Right. So he was hopeful that one day there would be no war and that they would need to know something other than just how to properly fire. a gun. Like he was actually hopeful that one day he wouldn't need to fight anymore and all of his ultramarines would scatter around and just sort of live happy lives as like governors of states as presidents or something like that. Yeah, more in the idea of like the plan he controlled and stuff, they would be leaders of that area as opposed to just being like, go out there,

go take rule. Right. He's very much like, hey, let's go think about this and figure that out and yada, yada. As for moving on from there, we also got to this unfortunate thing. It's called the Horace Heresy, you know? Oh, that thing. Yeah, I've heard a couple things about that. You know one of my favorite quotes is from our Nightlord's episode? What's that?

I was like, hey, D.K. Remember 9-11? Pretty bad, right? Pretty terrible. Worst thing ever, yep. Yep, Horace heresy? It's like three 9-11s. Uh-huh. Horace Harris-Harese very bad.

Very, very-very-very-old. Very, yeah. What was the Hitler scale from the guardsman, all guardsman party? Oh, God, I don't, I feel like I would remember some scale like that. I do not remember. It was the fan fiction we read, where it was like they measured massacres on the Hitler scale. Right, right, right. And it was like three Hitler's or something in the guardsman fanfic.

Right, right, right. Because of how much right. Oh, boy, that, that's, I don't remember a lot about that night. That's fair. That was a good night. Yeah. Okay, so now we're going to get more into actually what he did during the heresy. Like normal, most of our faction overviews are basically just overviews of primarks if we're being totally honest.

Sure. Which is probably better anyway, because that's kind of the point. But there's a couple of things. Now, for those huge ultramarine fans out there, I'm talking to you, Luton. I'm gonna have to go over the Calth, the Battle of Calth And then I'm gonna have to go over the Shadow Crusade And the Imperium Secundus

And these are like books on books On books And because of that I'm gonna, this is gonna be very like brief So please don't please don't hate me So The Comments are already, you know that right? I know, I know

It's already there I know but it's ultramarine fans, whatever Anyway Yeah, go play Frost Punk, you bitch. Ooh! I actually really want to play more Frost Punk. It should. It's a great game. It's a really good game.

Anyway, we're just this in a Frost Punk review. We'll talk about Frost Punk review. We'll talk about Lima Russ. Go, go, yeah, go build a house and go, go build that house. So, Horace, of course, was like, you know, little evil. And at this point, he was very evil. And in order, now obviously, the ultramarines pose the largest threat because they were like three legions in one. Their sheer size and Gileman's rule.

And so in order to properly deal with them, they had to take them away from the battle before they do the siege of terror. So they sent them to Calth. It's a world. It's a world of Calh. It was in the Ultramar realm. However, Calth itself,

they're like, hey, hey man, there's a giant orc waw coming. We need you guys to get there to help deal with them. They're amassing. So Horace had the Ultramarines and Gilliman go over there in an attempt to work with the now very begrudged and angry word bearers. Hey!

Hey! I'm a word bear, eh. Hey. You burned it down my monachia. I'm very angry at Turn Trader, and I'm waiting for you, Gilliman. Man. And I'm going to blow your ships out of the sky when you arrive because I'm fucking angry. Ooh, that sounds bad for Gilliman.

That sounds not great. That does not sound good. They arrived and life got bad. As soon as they arrived, all the word bearers were like, what's up? Fuckers and just immediately ambushed them like mad. They completely like just fucked Gilliman up. Like they curbstombed him so hard. It was completely decimating to his fleet.

And they needed it because, one, it's important to remember, like, the size difference. And two, obviously they had the aspect of surprise. The thing is that this is the giant, like, battle of Calh. And the ward bearers killed, like, ungodly amounts of ultramarines. They got slapped. And in fact, almost to the point of almost Gilliman's, flagship himself not making it, but he just barely scraped by. And for a while, they had a bunch of ultramarines leading like assaults on, not leading

assaults, leading background attacks on the planet surface itself, barely making it through or like bunkering up. In fact, I think, oh, yes, I just told me they killed 120,000 ultramarines. That's a lot of ultramarines. That's like half. I was going to say, you said there was like two. 200,000-ish ultramarines, they killed more than a half of every ultramarine. 250, actually.

There was 250 when Horace came Warmaster. He might have had more. I don't know. Point being, they killed a lot of ultramarines in this battle. I might be becoming a word bearer's fan now. Hey, we already talked about Lorgar a little bit. We did. Jeez, that is one hell of an ambush, though.

Like, I was thinking like, oh, okay, yeah, they're going to get jump, but it's the ultramarine. Surely, you know, they'll, even through an ambush, they can just, oh, my God, let's strategy this shit out, and we'll make a comeback and fight them off. And yeah. Well, they did do that. So, Gilman surviving with his flagship, he was able to start doing, like, little hidden run attacks, being able to kind of make his way around back and forth. And the word bearers were like gleefully enjoying this. They're like, ha ha, ha, I fucking love this daughter. Sorry.

Hey, hey, hey, I'm fucking, oh, never mind. Go with the first voice. Don't ever do that second one ever again. I'm sorry. I don't know how to do proper, to do proper Italian, angry, angry Italian. Anyway, they were stoked to, because they were like so happy to kill Ultramarines. There was like their arched nemesis. As we all are.

Yeah, well, everyone has their like famed rival, right? Thousand Suns, Lehman Rus, obviously we have the Ultramarines and the War Bears, the Dark Angels and the Nightlords. They all have their famed, oh, Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors. There's always like the rivalry. This is the big rivalry here. But he was able to do a pretty good job at somewhat surviving. And eventually with enough time, he's able to get a broadcast out into the Ultramar system

to get reinforcements. to arrive. And they didn't. They were able to arrive, but unfortunately, the war bears, being the war bears, were pretty sneaky, and they were able to snag a whole bunch of the orbital

batteries on Calth and fire at the star orbiting the planet, which destabilized the star pretty heavily. And it didn't supernovae, but it made it so that the actual surface of Calth was completely uninhabited.

And it basically trapped all the remaining ultramarines and word bearers that were on the surface underground in order to do subterranean fighting. Oh, because of course, radiation, I assume, and the heat from the star. Yeah, just star stuff, yeah, whatever the star did. There's always radiation in 40Ks. There's always radiation. Somehow that triggered a radiation explosion on the planet, right? There's always, there's always time like you can't go on there, why? because your teeth will fall out. I don't know.

Although I must say, between Lorgar being the yellow crewmate and Gilliman being the blue crewmate, unfortunately, the red crewmate had to arrive. And our good man Erosus had made it. And our good man,

Erebus was like, hey, I'm going to do more rituals. And he decided to cast a gigantic fuck-off ritual because he looked, loves his rituals, and he made this thing called a warp storm, like he did in Cadia. Oh, God, he made a warp storm. Oh, that's bad. He did it again. He can't keep getting away with it. He can't keep getting away with this. So he made this giant warp storm called the Ruin Storm.

And the Ruin Storm's entire point was to cut off Ultramar from the rest of the galaxy and stop the ultramarine reinforcements from making their way to Terra. And so when the word bearers dipped, like leaving all of their dudes on the planet, because who cares, the word bearers aren't nice guys. Sure. They were able to cast this warp store and be like, eh, it sucks to be you. You can't make it to Terra. Ha ha.

And they left chow. You're out. What? That's what they did. I'm just imagining that meme, but just with Lorgar's face. It's all like, all like whole, like, uh, uh, holy with all of his fucking scripture around him. By the emperor, I'm out. And then they go out.

And then the ultramarines can't get in because the ruins. What an apropos name for a warp storm. I know. Erebus just loves his warp storms. But after that, we then moved in a sign called the Shadow Crusade. And this is when things get exciting. Because it wasn't exciting enough. I know, right.

So, Gilamim being, like, battered as hell from this fight, after a bit was able to kind of start getting his group back up, right? Getting some things up and getting a force. And this is actually turning into more of an underdog story. Because after the Battle of Calth, the word bearers, of course, Lorgar, linked up with the World Eaters with Engron. And they launched this giant crusade against the 500 world world. in Ultramar.

Yeah, Ultramar has 500 worlds. Damn. It is a big. There's no reason why. It's an obvious reason why he's got the biggest group because there's a lot of people in Ultramar. Well, with the way he said it up, I guess it makes sense that he'd have 500 worlds since he's, you know, he's making sure every planet's self-sufficient. And yeah, that makes sense that he has a shitload of worlds. Typical Gilliman accounting.

Yeah, yeah, sure. So he aside, they decided to lay. waste the best they could to that world or to that region of space Ultramar. So Lorgar and Angron worked together and they were able to destroy 26 worlds

before Gileman's fleet was actually finally able to arrive. In Gilman's fleet, it looked like a fucking rust bucket. It looked so horribly destroyed. It was 41 ships consisting of his current

warship, which it's not called Ultraship but it's just as it's just as Boy Scouting it's called it's called Courage Above All Oh what a It's very

It fits the Ultramarine Robo Giller Manor But I know I know he's such a boy scout It's so funny I guess you could say he's got robot Gilla manners

huh Where's your drum set? Shy. But boom with the sound effect. Let's go. Put the sound effect shy. Let's go. Bum.

Do it. Anyway, the ultramarine like Armada was just this cobbled together fleet of ships. Like it was a rag-tag force. But it was still a force. And Gilliman was doing the damn best he could with what he had.

Because he's a smart guy. And he made it to the planet of Nuseria, which, we haven't talked a whole lot about. Basically, it's the homeworld of the world leaders of Angron. We'll talk about it eventually. If I'm not mistaken, I think the world leaders were trying to eradicate all life from it. Either way, he arrived there, and he was leading this fancy two-pronged assault.

Both Lorgar's flagship, which was known as the Fidelitius Lex. Okay. It was Lorgar's big. flagship. Fedoritus. Oh no. Oh no. I'm thinking of the,

I'm thinking of the fucking Amokas guy. He's standing there. He's like, Fedoritus. Oh, no. I was going to say, should I should get a picture?

Should I should get a picture of like the ship and put like a fedora on it? The fedorotus. That thing. The Fidelitus Lex was in the sky, fighting off the ultramarines. and the Conqueror,

which is the World Eaters flagship, which is much more world eaters. So what Gilliman was doing is just like kind of fancy two-pronged assault. And it's actually kind of a cool sight with the battle because like all these dudes are fighting the world eaters on the planet's surface. And normally the world eaters

would just carve through them because they're so goddamn angry. But the Ultramarines are so goddamn angry that they're like meeting head to head. And going through all of that is just like, It's just a massive battle. And then Lorgar's flagship actually, like, started to die so much that the escape pod started launching.

And the thing started drifting into the atmosphere. And it landed into one of the oceans. And you see this, like, moon-sized ships go like, slam. This is just a fucking bloodbath, man. But then things get really fun. Eventually, with enough time, Gilman was able to confront Lord. Lorgar himself, and the two of them had their duel. It's cool.

I like when the Primark's duel, it's always fun. Right. I love it too, because they're, you know, they're just two big, beefy, like the, you know, let's go. Like, it doesn't get much better than two Primarks fighting, right? Hopefully not. I mean, it shouldn't get any better than that. But as they were fighting each other, Lorgar and Gilliman were obviously, in the beginning. We're decently evenly

neatly natched. We got a, we got to they're bouncing each other in between and then also like all their dudes are fighting around them. It's like the Bain and Batman fight at the end of the Dark Night Rises where like everyone else is just punching each other the two of them are just going at it themselves. Right.

But at the time Lorgar had this thing, it was called Crozius like this fancy like Mace Mall thing. He had some reach compared to Gilliman, but Gilliman had his big power fist, right? And as the two of them were dueling,

they kept on smacking each other in the usual, but then Gilliman got this solid upper cut right into Lorgar's sternum and cracked his like ribs and his sternum and just like hemorrhaged his chest. But at the same time, Lorgar took that mall and just bashed Giliman's head. Oh!

Dead in the side of the head and bleeding. Like, Lorgar is now bleeding heavily internally with now Gileman's, like half of his face is like fractured and like blood is just, his skull got cracked. I was gonna say that didn't kill him? Because I mean like, oh well he had a helmet on.

Okay. I thought you meant he didn't have like, I thought he was going in without a helmet and like he got hit upside the head from Lorgar with that big old mall. I was like this fuckers God be dead. I was thinking like it was going to be one of those like really epic like Gilliman hits him in the chest with the tower fist and then Lorgar dies, but then like blabbs him in the head and they kind of both die from like simultaneous, you know, like one of those little epic like I kill you, you kill me things. Yeah, I mean, they both definitely trade their blows, but no, they're both in a lot

of pain but not quite them. But then things got a little worse when Kool-Aid man's style blows through the fucking wall comes Angron with dual-wielding chainswords and And he's like, and he's just there being Angron, being just like fucking furious. And it's like, it looks like Gillivan and he's like, let's go! Even after everything that he went through with, uh, with Lorgar, he's still just like, oh yeah, sure, I'll fucking 1v1 you. And he's still able to. Oh no, he doesn't want to 1v1 Lord. Oh, okay.

Wait, not Lorgar, fuck, uh, Angron, but Angron, he doesn't give his shit. He's like, let's go! Oh, okay, I thought you were saying Gilliman was like, let's go, let's fuck you too. Oh, okay. No, no, not like that. I was like, whoa, Gilliam, okay. Who fuck is a badass? Well, he did fight Angron.

Don't get me wrong. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was less of a fight, more of a retreat. Like, Angron was doing that thing where he just has like a flurry of attacks. He's like just beating on him over and over again. Gilliman's just like blocking and blocking, but he keeps on backing up as he blocks. Like, he can't get a hidden. because Angron is like just a whirlwind of attack.

Like he's ridiculous. But during this time, the currently bleeding and pained Lorgar was like, there's this thing called the butcher's nails, which is this shit that you stick in your fucking brain. It's like something of implant that makes them really, really angry. Oh, right. And Angron has a shitload of those in his head, right? Yeah, you can see them in his brain.

I think that's what like his dreads look like. like, they're not actually like dreads, they're like fucking... Yeah, they're the... ...chards. Right? Yeah, okay, right. Yeah, it was killing Angron. That's right.

It eats at your brain, uh, if it goes too much. Um, so he was seeing Angron go fucking mad. And he was like, oh my god, Angron's gonna kill himself through all this like, uh, like, fury. And so what Lorgar started doing was he was like, ah, homo, hama, hama, hama, hama, hama, hobbitabab. Dibib-z-z-z-zab-zab-z-zab-a-e. And then after he, he, he, actually someone like a giant pepperoni pizza from the fucking sky.

It started raining blood. You mean marinara. It started raining mariner. You're right. It started crying with a chance of meatballs. Hey. Hey. Hey.

Start raining mariner sauce. And then when it started raining... It started raining blood. And then as it started raining, raining blood and going crazy, Gilliman's like, what in the goddamn hell is going on? with you, Lorgar. He's like speaking of fucking foreign language. He's doing all these incantations.

And during this fight, Angron started going crazy. And this is actually when Angron himself turned into a demon primark. Through this ritual itself is when he eventually started going fucking crazy and the demon form of him started breaking

form and breaking through his armor because if he didn't, Angron would have died. So, in a sense, Lorgar turned him into a demon primarker, a demon prince, in order to stop Angrodden's death. Oh, to save his life.

To save his life, quote unquote. Quote, yeah. In his sense, I think there's a good chance that Angron would have killed Gillumann because he got a good chain sword, like, shank in his stomach, and like revved it up a little bit into his organs. Ooh. Which isn't great.

No. Not wonderful. But Gilliman, but at his point, is when he started transforming and I think because of that, he was able to get away. So, Lorgar, hemorrhaging

blood, Gilliman just battered and Angron breaking into his new form. Gilliman was like, yo, fuck this shit, I'm out, and he left. That is a great time to fuck this shit.

I'm out. Wow, because Shai was posting a couple pictures of demon prince, Angron and boy Oh he's nutty That's a motherfucker

Also I love GW's naming processes You know the defining trait about this guy Is he's very angry What should we call him? Angron Angron Angrion

Yeah Arabis Giant Warp Storm Ruin Storm Can't go back to Terra They're stuck in this section They're all trapped Okay without the help of the emperor

We now need to create Like a second form of government in order to survive in this period of time. We're going to call it the Imperium Secundus. There's a couple people here. There's Gilliman, Lionel Johnson, sanguineous, and they're all there, and they're like, okay, shit, we need to create like a second form of government.

Gilliman was like, I don't really want to declare myself the emperor of this Secundus because how our hungry Horace was. I'm going to give it to Primark Lionel Johnson. And who arrived here with his dark angels, even though he didn't really trust Lionel Johnson he was like I don't really like you a whole lot though with some time organizing this new

Second Imperium Secundus thing Gilliman survived an assassination attempt by the Alpha Legion Hey who are they Who no one knows Exactly and And eventually my boy arrived And you might think my boy is Vulcan It's not

Oh who's your boy? I have a new favorite primark now. Conrad Kurz. Conrad Kurz. Let's go. I've been reading those night lord novels. I fucking love the night lords now. They might be my favorite space marine legion.

I really like them. When are you making the night lord army, bricky? I already have a lord discordant. Let's go! Am I happy, all right? It might happen. We'll see. Point being,

the eventually night lord's Conrad Curse actually was hidden in the Dark Angels flagship. And he was let loose on to McCrogg itself, causing all sorts of problems. And Gilliman and the lion fought Conrad Curse together. And he was able to hold them off because Conrad Kerr is like a savage. He's insane. Oh, yeah, yeah. And instead of being cornered like they thought he was, he actually led them into a trap

where he had a whole bunch of bombs detonated under the structure they were currently at and he blew it up to have the structure fall on them and the only way they escaped is because an old loyalist Iron Warrior guy used like an alien tech to teleport them away it's how they got to Ultramar or to McCrog to begin with crazy probably Eldar tech I don't know it doesn't matter

cheaters a bunch of cheaters fucking Conrad Kerr's like attacked both them at the same time led them into a trap dropped like a cathedral on them and only got away because they cheated a bunch of bitches. Conrad Curse is better than both of them.

You heard it here first. Conrad Curz's coolest Primark. Yep. All those seven Nightlord's fans are like, my boy. Let's go. So anyway, Gilman decided to give the title to Sanguineus instead

as the regent of the Imperium Secundus because Sanguinius is a pretty cool guy. Yeah, he's awesome. We like him. I've never actually seen that picture before Shai. That is the most Conrad Curz thing I've seen in forever. As the Ultramarines McCrack and he's

just there with like his hanging ultramarine bodies. I love that fix. I love Curse so much. That should be his mini. So with the new Imperial Secundus created the biggest issue they had was Giliman

and Lionel Johnson constantly fighting over policy. Now we haven't done the Dark Angels yet either. But I know a lot of people really like Lionel Johnson. I thought he was cool. I must say reading this, it makes it seem like lions kind of a dick. I mean, Gilliman's a Boy Scout, but the lion seems really uncaring of like civilian casualties. Though basically he's really pissed at Conrad because we meme a lot that the Dark Angels are Chaos Legion because a lot of their group went to the fallen, which is like a turn chaos.

A large amount of the distrust in the Dark Angels was fostered because Conrad Curz is a troll. Curz with his actions is one of the main reasons why the Dark Angels hate, some of the Dark Angels went to chaos. Or it's assumed that way, and a lot of people are distrusting of them. So the line was like hell bent on dealing with Curz. Like on, on, hunt on hunting for him. And he was like, yo, Gilliman, he's on your planet. Declare martial law across the entire planet. And Gilliman was like, no.

Excuse me? Excuse me? No, I'm not doing that, you fucking psycho. And he assumed that there's like a lot of rebellions started breaking out on the home world of the Ultramarines. And he was damn positive that Conrad Kurz is the reason. So he thought that these rebellions were a fault of the night lords, which is in Curris, which it probably was.

And in that area of the rebellions, Lion was like, you know, there's a lot of problems there. Let's nuke them. And Gilliman was like, no. No. Stop it. You're a psycho and I don't like it. You're not doing these things, man. Cut it out. Please stop that. And like, I think, I think the lion is like becoming a paranoid mess

because the Kerr's like he's like this this bee that keeps flying by his ear and he can't deal with him in fact like so much of that kept going on eventually they were able to finally capture him with a more conventional space marine assault and they were able to capture Kurz

and they held him to account on a public trial for his treason which I love because Curr's had one of my favorite dialogues in all of it. I think it was during this trial. Maybe it was during something else, but he called Gilliman, quote, unquote,

an avenging bean counter. That is pretty great. I just really like that one. He's an avenging bean counter. It's like, what a great fucking name for Gilliman. Oh, yeah. Just a really angry accountant. Robo bean counter.

I like it. Robo bean counter. It's perfect. But during this trial, Kurz was like, yo, he actually revealed something. He was like Lionel Johnson actually did order orbital strikes against the rebellion against Gilman's wishes. Oh, did he? And this revelation made the lion so angry he nearly went to kill Curz in the middle of the trial. Oh, shit.

And instead, because of like all of this, Gilman and Sanguinius was like, okay, all right, Lion, you're out of the group. You're out of the group. You've been banned for my server. Get the fuck out. I'm surprised it took that long with all of their little spats because although it's weird. Like to me, Lionel Johnson is doing like the typical Imperium thing. It's like, oh, there's someone I don't like.

Just fucking nuke them. There's someone I don't like, ah, Marshall, let's go fucking get them. It's like, that's so imperium. And for Gilliman, just be like, no, no, I can. care about, you know, you can't do that to my place. Fuck you, man. It's a very almost, yeah, he's a caring guy. After the trial, they said, hey, we're going to try and breach the ruin storm to get to

Terra, who they just found out still lived. And of course, you know, they were like, hey, the emperor's still alive. We've got to make sure he's got defense from Horace. And as they attempt to navigate said ruin storm, the fleet of the ultramarines, dark angels, blood angels came across like, you know, God knows how many fucking horrors during the ruin storm. where Gilliman again survived an assassination attempt by word bears because of course

of course yep finally left behind in the space where Davin was having a breach in the ruin storm which was visible to their fleet and the path would eventually lead to Terra of course however it was apparent that Horace had foreseen that this route to the throne world would open up

and so he left behind a giant fleet of traitor warships to bar that route. Because of course. Of course. Sure. Why not? So lots of the Iron Warriors were basically there to, uh, to stop them for a time being. Uh, long story short after this major battle, uh, Conrad Kerr's dipped.

Because of course he dipped. Sure. Why not? Because he's the sneakiest sneaky man, nine foot tall man. You never seen. No, he's always gone. He's, he's out. He's fucking.

The siege of terror, of course, happened. The giant important siege. Obviously, our good friend, Sanguineus, and the boys were able to make it to an extent. All sanguineous. All sanguineous. All sanguineous. He's all fighting demons. Oh, sanguineous.

But unfortunately, of course, as we all know, a large amount of other guys, particularly Gilliman and stuff, were not quite able to reach the actual major battle of terror itself. They were held back too hard. So the lion, dark angels, space wolves,

these guys were like hours away from the major final battle between the emperor and Horace and they're like four to five hours too late. I'm skipping a lot here, but you get the gist of it. We talked about this many times. Oh yeah.

We have a Horacee trilogy that you can go watch for a more in-depth thing. Just imagine if they had made it though. That would have completely turned the heresy on its head. It would have. So after this, after the heresy, after the emperor died and everything, Gilemon took command

of the reform of, this is the thing we never talked about after the heresy. He took command of the reform of the, of the Imperium. He was like, okay, a lot of us went under threat of chaos, all these problems happened, we need to fix what had occurred. So after tons of infighting, tons of problems about who should be the Lord Commander of the Imperium, Gilliman eventually took this entire throne from self. He led through the Great Scouring to get rid of more of the Trader Legions.

And he, through large amounts of time, would say that never again would one person, no matter how noble their motives wield the power of an entire Space Marine Legion anymore. It would now be split among chapter masters and no single person would hold the entire power of a Marine Legion so this would never happen again. In fact, with enough time, it makes sense. And he was like, okay, we need to diversify power, diversify structure, make it so that we can't wield

all this strength at once. And he creates something that you might have heard of called the Codex Astardis. Oh, okay. Kind of a meme. It's basically a book on how to do things. it's like follow the book. Now, this one of the reasons why the

ultramarines are so anal is because they follow that book to the letter. Like, if they do something and they're like, the codex of starities does not support this action. It's like, shut the fuck up, Blueberry. It's space book says this is bad. Like, it's, uh, they're so, they're so annoying with their

codex of starities. It's, it's a smart book, it makes sense. But a lot of the other primarks were like, I don't believe in this. I'm not doubt. for this. Okay. I don't agree with your Codex of Starities.

I don't like, I don't like this, this very binding book, this very binding set of regulations. Right. Some people, it's not fluid. It's too strict.

It's too, yeah. It doesn't work for them. Yeah, yeah. You got to go outside the box. Yeah, you gotta go outside the book. Some people like Rogel Dorn really didn't like it, but eventually accepted it.

Ironic that Rogel Dorn didn't like, regulations. I thought you were going to say Rugal Dorn didn't like it because he couldn't read but okay. That's what I thought

where the fuck did you hear that from? I don't know. Like the meme I keep hearing about him from you is like, oh yeah, he's like the personification of like a triangle thing and square hole and just keep mashing it.

Oh, it's kind of thought. It's kind of a Neanderthal. No, it's not because he can't reach. It's not because he can't reach because he doesn't have any social cues. I thought he was just stupid. No, he's incredibly smart. But he's... Oh, okay.

He's incredibly smart. He's just, he's just like, he's got to stick up his ass. He's got a massive stick up his ass. I didn't know anything else about him. So when you described him like that, I was like, oh, he's like really strong, but he's, kind of a fucking idiot. That's why I thought that's where we were going.

No, that's Lehman Russ. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Okay. I'm okay with that. Fuck Lehman Russ. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, because you like thousand stunts.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, you can be fuck right off. That's so funny. Okay. Point being, after that, there's a lot of second founding of space marines, which create this thing called the successor chapters to divide space marine legions so they can never be too large. I think the ultramarines

were still always the biggest, but that's why there's a shitload of ultramarine successor chapters. They have the most successors. Example, the imperial fists of Rogel Dorn were split into the crimson fists and like the black Templars, for instance.

Like, there's lots of, I think there's a thing called the flesh terrors, which were a blood angels variant. They kept on splitting up into, I think, the Lamenters were a successor chapter of the Blood Angels as well. Poor Lamentus.

Poor Lamenters. But Gilliman basically was like, okay, with an iron fist, I'm going to split among different avenues of power, make this thing work out properly. He talked to this guy. His name was Call. Pretty cool guy. And he was like, hey, call.

I need you to do two things for me. Number one, if I want you to create this thing called the primary aerospace Marines, a completely new generation of warriors to improve upon the original design. Because this is kind of back before, like, before technology was, I mean, it was kind of heresy, but it wasn't like as bad as we're now. Yeah, yeah. It's like, hey, make this new thing.

And secondly, if I were to ever die, I need you to make me something to make sure I don't die. I need something to help me. Because, like, at this point, if I ever something like the Emperor's death occurred, I need something that would keep me alive. Because I'm the new leader of the Imperium. Right. So then, this is beautiful, ma'am, pretty sexy. His name's Folgram.

And Fulgram... And Fulgram was like, hey, Gilliman, I'm a snake now. Here's this fancy sword with poison on it. Slice. Oh, no. I'm like, I'm abridging a lot here, but long story short, he fought Fulgram, and Fulgrim slid his throat with a poison blade. Oh, Gilliman's throat. I thought you were just going to say he stabbed him, but like he slid his throat?

Jesus. He flew his throat with a poison blade, and Gilman, very similarly to the blade that stabbed Horace, very similarly. Oh. And so Gillim was like, I'm dying. And they stuck him into a stasis chamber, like a stasis field. And for 10,000 years, he was stuck there, frozen in time, physically impossible to heal, while simultaneously not able to do anything. And for the longest time, there's that thing that GW does,

where all the primarks kind of went into their own thing. Like, we think Rogel Dorn is dead, but not sure. Lehman Rus and Corvus Korax ran into the warp. Jagatai Khan was like, I'm coming for Dark Eldar booty, and he's in the webway. Um, they're all like gone, right? And this is where, this is where Gilliman went. He got shanked and now he was stuck in stasis for 10,000 years. Yikes. And with that, oh, go ahead. I thought you were, I was going to say, like, is this one of those things where, like, he's essentially asleep? Or is he, like, perpetually, like, awake and aware and constantly feeling the pain of a slit neck? Um, it would be more grim dark if I said the second.

But I appreciate he was just frozen in time. We're like, he probably just wakes up again 10,000 years later. I was going to say, if he wakes up from that, he's going to be fucking insane. Oh, yeah, no, probably not a Nekron variant. Yeah, okay, cool, cool. That being said, obviously there's a lot of abridged stuff near the end in order to get this done. Because Giliman is everywhere. He's like, the guy, you know?

If you had to think of the most iconic character besides the emperor, in terms of Primarks, he's probably the one. Though, obviously, being in states for 10,000 years, it's soon time to wake him up. That'll be our next episode. Oh, my God, the Ultramarines had so much. Though, I want to leave you with a quick quote from Rabutei Gilliman. Hey.

When he did wake up to kind of get you an idea of what he thinks. Okay. So he wakes up, and his first quote is, why do I still live just to suffer? That's great. It's like, what more do you want from me?

I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they've made of our dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and a hope, but by fear,

hate, and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horace's ambition than live to see this. So he's got ultra depression. He woke, he's woken up in this modern day

and he's like, what have you done? This is everything I didn't want. What the fuck is wrong with you? Don't forget, this is Lorgar's dream too. Like the arch enemy of the ultramarines is a zealotis religious cult.

And he wakes up and he's like, God save the emperor of mankind, holy be thy name. Hamanahman and he's like, what the fuck? Oh man. The irony. The pain. The pain.

The suffering. Oh. I mean, I think this episode successfully made me like Robote Giliman. Like he seems like a pretty reasonable, cool dude. I still think the Ultramarines are trash, though. I still, not a big fan of the Ultraman's. Gotta be honest, when you were like, oh, yeah, they got ambushed, and 120 of them died, I was like, oh, man, word bear's sick.

bro, let's go. Let's get it. Let's get it, dude. At least Gilman's cool. Gilliman's cool. I like him. He's a reasonable, well-thought-out, strong, just dude, he's cool. I like him. So you've successfully turned me into the meme of liking Robot Gilliman, but still,

fuck the Ultramarines. So, good job. All right, all right, fine. At least you understand why they're everywhere, because they're the tactical and also they have the the most people right

they they well it makes it says they have the most people too because like they have they have the largest contingents of Marines what they always with the release is why everything is always

ultramarines with GW because they tend to be the largest legion it makes it makes sense I think they're interesting I think you definitely like Gilliman a lot more if you're the person

who enjoys the logistical side of that kind of stuff. If you like reason, you like Gilliman. Yeah, he's a pretty... He seems like a reasonable, good leader, care about my people, I care about what happens, and you know, he's a good guy. He's swell.

He's swell. Ultramarines fans out there, I know I had to abridge a lot because I'm sorry that's kind of your fucking fault for having nine million goddamn books on your nine million goddamn battles. But, you know, if I can convince D.K. to be like, he seems cool. I did my job. Yes, you did. Still fuck the Ultramarines, but I like you, Gilliman. You're all right.

God damn it. All right, fine. You know what? It's a little, there's a little more character added to him when he has ultra depression later on. Oh, God, I bet. I think he'd be hilarious after waking up. Like, I can't wait until we get into a little bit more about how he was when he woke up and he saw just this. That quote at the end was fucking amazing. It's, where's the, Shai, do you have the picture of him

sitting at the throne with Celesteen and all the people around him? I believe that's like the main, the main image with him. I think I've seen that one and it is, he does not look like a happy camper. No, he's sitting on his throne.

He's just like really sad. I always think it's interesting because like Celestine in that photo is putting on his iron halo, which is like a field or what. whatever, Forshfield. Yeah. And I just imagining him looking at Celestine being like,

my father would be disgusted by you. Like, you are, you are a zealotus, insane demon. Basically, it's like, when you really think about it,

he probably looks at Celestine like, what the fuck? Oh, man. I'm just so curious to see how he handles, like, the sort of present time that he's in. because like everything around him must seem so nigh heretical that like he's he's got to lose his fucking mind

like he's got to go absolutely stir crazy um but yeah i i am i am so so curious to see how this goes now why is okay i guess that is the photo but why does she have flex tape why does she maybe because she's trying to flex tape the wound on his neck you know But he's already alive. Never mind. Okay. All right. Anyway, I'm gonna head us out.

I'm taking us home. All right, everyone. Thanks for watching the Ulcharines episode. Next week, we'll talk about the resurgence and the Adominious Crusade and revival of Robooty Gorilla Man. Mine is the brick. You can find me at Bricky everywhere. D.K., where can they find you? D.K. Diamante's everywhere for all intents and purposes.

We're just not going to talk about Instagram. Yeah. You can find Sheporty everywhere. and quite shallow, quite shy, all those places. Shy, we'll have a shorter episode next week, I promise. Maybe. I'll see you all later. Blueberries for life.

Fuck them.