Adeptus Ridiculous - SAINT CELESTINE: PURE AS RIGHTEOUS DESTRUCTION | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

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Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamanty's. My co-host is Bricky, and he's going to be hitting us with a left jab of information. And that's stupid. Whatever. Let's just keep going with it. If you enjoy today's episode of the podcast, head over to patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous and consider supporting the podcast.

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Now, D.K. Yeah. Dancing Lizard Giff. Oh, geez. Here we go That's gonna be the new The new meme for the next little while Is that Cry about it

Dancing Lizard Which is gonna be me After Crying about it After I screw up a What should be a very obvious quote I'm sure I will be crying about it And doing that little lizard dance

I like the little lizard dance It's very fun I think there's just a lot of use They can come out of it Sure It's all right All right. I will give you a quote.

I don't think that you're actually going to have too hard of a time with this one. And this is a genuine statement in this one. Because it's hard to find quotes from this particular topic that don't make it extremely obvious. I mean, I am a lightweight when it comes to 40K. So do not underestimate my powers. No, you've graduated from lightweight. Let's be honest with ourselves. here, all right. We've done this for over a year.

Well, okay, fine. You genuinely might know more than the average 40k fan, just do like the widespread of knowledge we've had to cover. Anywho, the absence of faith is the mark of the weak. The absence of faith is the mark of the heretic. The absence of faith is the mark of damnation. These heretics refute the emperor's holy rite.

to rule. Let them argue with the barrel of a gun. Wow. That's definitely some that's definitely some hume shit. That's definitely some Imperium shit.

But, I mean, it sounds like the, it sounds like inquisitor shit. It sounds like inquisitors that are just like, oh, if you lack faith or you don't show enough faith, well, I'm gonna shoot you. So, but we've already done inquisitors.

We have already done inquisitors. Maybe this is a specific, like this is like a more in-depth look at inquisitors, maybe, possibly. Royal police, commissars. Well, okay, it's not inquisitor base, but you're close. Hmm.

It's not inquisitors. It can't be sisters. They're very like, oh, no faith. barrel of gun, although sisters would probably do way worse to you if you had no faith. They probably wouldn't just shoot you. They'd probably like torture you. Why don't you just tell me what it is? It's sisters.

No way, really? It is a specific sister. Which specific sister is? I was on the right track. You were getting there. I was getting there. As the Ordo Hereticists's main name. militant arm is the sisters of battles.

So, you know, in a sense, you were kind of right. You were hitting it. We're going or finally going back to things Bricky wants to do and screwed all of you, which means we're going to talk and have a dedicated episode on the angel herself. The angel herself. Okay. Bro, what's her name? Celestine?

Thank God. Oh. Let's go. Let's go. If you had forgotten this, I swear. Also, goddamn, Ted, that is a baller background. Oh, shit. Let's go.

Yeah, I just showed us the thumbnail, and it's, whoo. That, damn, he is fucking, that's fucking baller. God, damn. The sword is, needs to be a little brighter, like, a little more red and flamy. But besides that, that's fucking great. I love that. Yeah, that's amazing. Jesus.

I'm here. I'm here to. hypercritical of amazing artwork. It's part of the episode is talking about the sword. Listen, listen. All right, tell me about the angel. Tell me about Angel Celestine.

All right, Celestine, the living saint. A very popular character in 40K. The quintessential poster girl in more ways than one, like both in a metaphorical and literal sense of the Sisters of Battle There are many living saints, or there are many imperial saints, so to speak, but there are not many living saints as far as I'm concerned.

Because you remember way back when all of the sister Ordo's had a matriarch, which was a saint, St. Catherine, St. Dominica, et cetera. But of course, they're all dead. But good old, good old zealcing here is not. So she is, of course, the living saint. She is from the order of our martyred lady. That is the classic black armor and red robes style sisters that everyone knows and loves very well.

She is a being of incredible power, psychic power, one might argue, but not in the traditional sense. And faith, of course, and is assumed to have been resurrected and consistently resurrected from death by the emperor himself. Now, of course, there's a lot of that,

there's a lot of that question, because a lot of these stuff kind of goes into speculation, how much of the sister's power is pulled from the emperor, how much of it is pulled from the warp stuff, is the emperor in the warp?

We know that large amounts of worship have genuine deeds. The word bearers have taught us this, very well. And the emperor sure is shit is worshipped. Yeah, by a lot of people very fervently. So, you know. So the idea of the sisters being some of the most faithful, the most passionate,

and having the ability to have just these miracles occur for them, is that the emperor is doing, there's a good percentage to assume that it is. Is Celestine's revival the emperor is doing? Maybe. One might ask why him or her specifically. I don't know, not the point. Very little is known about Celestein when she was a sister herself, besides the fact that she was part of Order of Armar and Lady.

She was in the Scola progenium, I do believe, because most sisters come from the Scola as a large contingent of female applicants tend to become sisters of battle, or maybe they'll become an inquisitor or something. but that was her. And she was actually a sister repensha at a time. Oh. Yes.

Was she a sister of repensia by choice, or did she do some fucked up shit? Very few people are sisters of repensure by choice. Most of the time you screw up. And then now, you very rarely ever find people, there are some who purposely put themselves as a repentia. Yeah, yeah, I remember you telling me about that. Like, they want to get closer to the emperor, so they feel like the only way is to, like, prove themselves as, like, a repensia, because it's like, I survived.

The emperor must have wanted me to survive. Look at me. I'm so much closer to God. And, yeah. There's a few of them. Most repentia are because they, like, fled. They fled the battle. They showed cowardice.

They had their faith questioned and they failed. Most repensia are not there by choice, but most repensia do take the opportunity as a way to absolve themselves. Most likely through death. But it's kind of the idea where like, hey, I'm going to go out in a blaze of glory and hack away at God knows how many people. And when I die, I will be by the emperor's side and I will have shown my devotion. And if I live, how very small of a chance that is, then awesome. Then I'm re-inducted back into the ranks. People in the sisters show quite a lot of respect to repentias who survive and, like, prove themselves.

Because that's like, that's like the closest you could possibly be. Like, you were willing to sacrifice, I mean, they're all willing to sacrifice their life, But you tried to get yourself killed for the emperor. And the emperor said no. You deserve to live. You're supposed to live. God's plan. Oh, boy.

Nothing like religious extremism to really get you going in the morning, right? Mm-hmm. God's plan. Throw some auto-tune on that, you know? Oh, no. No, auto-tune. God's plan. No, God's plan auto-tune.

God's plan. All right. So is Celestine a deserter then? And she was forced to become a repensia. And this is where she reinforced her undying love of the emperor. We don't know exactly why she was a repensia. We just know she was a repensia. Desert may be cowardice, who knows.

But it kind of goes in the wonderful like underdog into this big character kind of thing. because it's got this like, not only did she repends, but she went like as far as you possibly could, you know. To have the highest highs, you must know the lowest lows. Started from the bottom, now we're here. And you told me I could. All right. Son of a bitch.

What? What? So she fought against naturally heretics, because sisters were almost always put it against heretics. In the deadliest battle of a major capital city. and she, along with every single other repensia that was sent into that city, had been killed. However, when her body was recovered and brought to the other dead, they found that there was a little bit of life still left in her.

And so she was nursed back to health. She was cleansed, of course, and then reintegrated into the separatists as her bad deeds had been admonished. So a few hours after that, she had helped lead and fight the battle back against the heretics and has been seen as kind of like the sacred figurehead for the whole sector. Originally, the main plan was, by the Lord Militant, was to crusade over to another sector. But Celestein instead insisted on liberating this little backwater planet known as

Saint-Lis Lice, Lys, L-Y-S. I'd say Lice. How do you say Florida Lee? It'll be Lee, then. Yeah, Florida Lee. It'd be Lee, because this isn't both Lee and Florida Lee's spelled like L-Y-S. Oh, I have no idea.

Oh, well, you know what? Look at Prickie lecturing on French after here. I know. I'm not lecturing, I'm asking. I want nothing to do with the French. Brick is like, hello, the French said, floor de lis so it must be that way i was asking i was asking for input and i gave you the input a han haunt bagette motherfucker i love france by the way france is beautiful beautiful country

as an american i take it upon myself to hate them even though i've never been there or met very many of them but you know it's like hating the british it's required uh well i wouldn't i wouldn't anything about that. Ooh, ooh. Oh, spotted tea. Beans on toast. What cuisine? Anyway.

I mean, beans on toast isn't even bad, though. Bro. I'm gonna have to find another co-host. I'm just saying. You put your stinky-ass beans and your burn-ass toast and you're Earl Grey and you put it out the window.

Go eat yourself a dull quarter-pounder with cheese like a good American. Look, man, all I'm saying is whenever I'm on Twitter, there's always someone like, there's always like an American that's like, oh, look at this weird British one. It's like beans on toast. I ain't even weird, homie.

That's not even weird. In America, we fry butter. All right, we deep fry butter. All right, that might be true. That being said, I fucking love Haggis. Never had it. Oh, it's, it's like, it's great. The Scottish, Scottish fans, let me tell you,

your shit's good. Throw a shot of McCallon on that. love it anyway i'm sure if you gave it to me and didn't tell me what it was i'd enjoy it maybe you know what i've gotten a little off track though i enjoy the sisters you better keep this in shy um yeah the sisters of battle continuing so uh this planet the the saint de french was home of the shrine of saint catherine uh originally if you don't remember the order uh The St. Catherine's Order was the Order of the Fiery Heart, but it was renamed to the...

Oh, such a cool name. Yeah, it was really good for them at the time. But of course, since she died, it became the Order of Our Marr Lady. So there was... I guess that makes sense. There was a crypt and some ruins in there. And Celestine ordered them to remove some of the ruins and went inside by herself.

Because she said she was called to it. You classic religious... No. Yep. A higher power. A higher voice call to me. When dawn broke, she rose from the tomb with a pillar of divine light and radiance heralded by cherubs, cherubs and doves, which I find hilarious because the planet probably doesn't have natural doves.

The emperor just threw them in there for good measure just to make it look as holy as possible. He's like, how can I make this look as just... classic martyr as possible. Doves, natural light that doesn't exist. Oh, you know? I mean, truly think about it. Like, this is not Earth.

This is a backwater planet somewhere far from Earth. How can there be doves there? Like, it's like, you have to think. Doves and cherubs, yeah. Like, the cherubs may make more sense because, you know, period of all that shit. Oh, yeah. With the, yeah, little servitor skulls, yeah.

But like, like, I have to assume. that it is canon. This is it is canon. The emperor was like, I'm adding doves. He chose this. It is canon. He chose this.

It just doesn't look right without doves. Come on. Add some majesty. It is so, it is so much of a lower possibility that this planet had natural doves compared to the emperor just deciding,

I'm going to add fucking doves I like that head can in so much more that he decided to add doves just to make it more majestic that's staying in the head can I don't care what anybody says I don't even know if I think it's true he's like I choose my

child will have a normal ecosystem Emperor face doves Doves Doves Anyway so along with her doves and goddamn blow light and ship. She had a suit of shining gold power armor and a sword that was so incredibly bright that other sisters simply could not look upon it. Physically could not look at it.

It's like burning magnesium, you know, you just can't look at it. Jesus, no wonder you were so hypercritical about the thumbnail art with the with the sword. No, I mean, she can turn the sword on and off like. It's not always on. I just, I was like, fire. Oh shit. That would make it very hard to move around. Bro, Ted has doves in this thumbnail. Let's go.

Let's go. The emperor came down to Ted and he was like, add the fucking doves. After she popped out of there with her fictitious doves, she was declared a living saint by the Lord Militant and then the ecclesiarchy shortly after. Originally, though, her position was a little spooky. A lot of people kind of were scared of her.

I would be. I mean, but like, she's very, when Celestein speaks in like a lot of audio dramas and various things like that, she speaks in a calm, passionate, caring voice. Because do not fret, do not fear. For the Emperor's Light bless us you all. And all of you who commit sin Shall be baptized in his glorious world You will know no pain

You will know no fear She has that kind of voice And then when she goes to heretics She's like And the scum and villainy of the gods Will be smite by my You know that kind of shit She has her levels

But originally it was more the idea That with Celestein there They were looking upon an angel of the emperor and the emperor himself like was looking down at them judging them I mean that's fair he did he did revive her

and she is in this you know she has this this brilliant gold armor dubs crazy sword yeah I can see how people would look at her like she was oh almost like an avatar of the emperor himself sure

I mean the recent photo should I just posted is canon image. And if you'll notice a couple things, one, she's, one, she's barefoot. Of course she is. Of course she is. There are doves.

Does she actually have doves follow her like everywhere? Look, the dove on the right has carrying a purity seal. Yeah, it is. But if you'll notice, like, her blade is so hot. The heretics on the right are straight melancholyte. Like they are they are bubbling apart just by her very existence Wow she is she is a majestic Uh majestic uh

fighter sister and she is very angelic is what I'm is what I'm trying to say Very angelic very yeah Now she's the living saint What's the what's the halo thing behind her is that uh um Is that that you told me about it in one episode. It's not an iron halo or something that gives her protection and only a select few get it? Like doesn't Gilliman have one of those things?

Yeah, I think it actually is an iron halo. But hers is a little different. It might be like, it might not actually be a genuine iron halo. It might be a light sistery version. The sisters carry slang color Rosarius instead as their main like protection. but it looks like an iron halo like it stradles like an iron halo so it could be an iron halo

but despite it all I mean it's also just like holy shit look at that the flames the power that shit's so cool it is super I love it so continuing though obviously with time it had like that fear just kind of went away

because she was just she was like pure fervor The influence she had on other sisters was genuinely miraculous. Like they fought with this level of like passion that had never before seen. Because to them like the emperor's angel herself, like an incarnation of his being like someone that he chose specifically. And proof of that was on the battlefield with them. They were important enough to be blessed. And as a sister, I mean, you're already insane.

But like, come on. now. That, that knowledge? Yeah, I mean, that's gotta fill you with the fighting spirit. If you're on the same battlefield, the Celestine, the angel of the emperor, like, who, I mean, you don't

need much more of a pick-me-up than that to get you in a fervor. In real life, the concept of faith is the, the idea that you can believe in something despite not needing like heavy proof. You know, like, you know, without evidence, yeah.

It's faith, you've got faith. Yeah, or like, you don't need evidence. Yeah, well, like, I guess less or so evidence, but more just the knowledge. Like, like, you don't need someone, you don't, you don't need a guy with a giant, a giant beard to descend from the heavens and say, I am real. You know, you, the, the small aspects of life, small things here and there provides you said proof and that, that's, that's your faith. Except this time, this fucking winged angel. actually there. Yeah.

Actually there. It would be nice if whatever deity if there is one would just come down and be like, hey guys, I'm here. Maybe stop being

such assholes to each other for a little bit. And then they take a fat bong rip and then they go back in heaven. You imagine if the deity the creator of the universe came down.

It was like, hey everybody I think y'all need to chill out. Peace. You see that's just canon. It's just canon for Buddha though, so it's all right. Yeah. And then just doves.

The man's ch- And then doves And they're just just doves. No, it took a fat bong rip and exhaled doves. Right? Oh, hell yeah. He just blew all out.

Hell yeah, brother. It just doves. Yeah, no smoke. It's just doves. Yep. Any you. Yeah, also not to mention that the angel is literally

killing the people you're trying to kill and they actually stay dead. So, yeah, pretty nuts. But it was assumed that she had actually post this, had died at the hands.

of a renegade war master who triggered this big like atomic meltdown in his fortress and she was way deep in the set fortress and so it was assumed that she had died from there the bell of lost souls was told many were grief-stricken oh the living saints dead

but sisters of course in their prayers were were happy because now she was definitely in the side of the emperor in the usual stuff she walks with the emperor now she's moved on to a better place but with time she was constantly

reappearing in other battlefields there was a fight with the combination of the order of the Eben Chalice and the Salamander Space Marines fighting off some Chaos Black Legion and during this time they were eventually being attacked

by a ton of possessed chaos space marines and as the possessed were just like ripping through the ranks out of fucking nowhere a burst of light comes out of the sky and Celestein just like screeching arrives in the battle feel like a meteor and starts hacking away at people. Whoa.

All right. Because Lowell-Lamau Angel. Holy shit. General Radon. The Radon Festival. The Radon Festival. Rises in this meteor. We're going to use our anti-gravity powers to launch into the sky.

my young horse, yes sir. That poor little horse. The poor little dinky little horse, but I mean, good for Rodon for learning gravity magic so he could always have his trusty steed with him. What a bro. But she came down, carved a path to

the chaos possessed, and then eventually stabbed her sword into the heart of the chaos lord. And then like that, she was gone. And she would kind of bounce around to different places. see herself in various battlefields where the heretics were at their highest.

And I've told you this before, but for the viewers who do not know about Celestine's revival process, it's, I don't know if it's necessarily considered canon or not. It might not be. It might be a artist rendition. or a theory, but it's pretty metal, so I'll say it anyway. Okay. The idea that when Celestine dies, she awakens in a room. I think it's pitch white, but I'm not quite sure. And there is a crying young girl.

And this young girl is just like a imperial citizen or whatever, and she's just sobbing. And her duty is to go to the young girl and to comfort her. However, this young girl is upon a pile of bones. Oh. And the bones are said to have been the prior dead Celestines. Oh, my God. I don't remember this. You don't remember this? That's a, I don't remember this.

I don't doubt you told me. There's a much better chance that I have simply forgotten. Ah. Well, the idea is that every time she does. dies, her bones are taken in this realm. And it makes the mountain to climb and reach this girl higher and higher and higher. And eventually, the concept is that when Celeste no longer has the strength, when she's no longer able to climb the mountain, is when she will eventually truly die.

You know, how often is she dying that there's a mountain of her bones in this other realm? I mean, she's tough, but she, Leroy Jenkins, a lot of goddamn combat. Oh, so she just goes in head first to the toughest of tough battles. And, oh, okay. I mean, I'm assuming, but it's, uh, at the same time, you know, there's, there's a lot of war. And there's a lot of imperial space. Oh, there's a quote here. Hey.

So, Celestead woke up in the dimension of. the warp on top of a huge mountain made of skulls, bones, and broken and rusted armors. All around her neck, there was a deep scar that soon faded away. Oh, she lost her head. Celeste had lost her memory, but she soon realized that she was, who she was, and that she was experiencing one of her many deaths. She walked in a nightmarish landscape full of demons and facing various trials, regaining her memory, armor, and sword.

She found two other ladies who revealed to be parts of her own soul. Faith and duty, and a young girl who has her hope. After the trial, she was able to return once more to life. Oh, so it's not just necessarily climbing a mountain of bones. Like, she is actually enduring a hellish demon landscape of trials and having to, like, regain everything she lost in death? I guess that young girl trial is the final trial, because it's her hope. Oh, okay.

See, I thought it was just the get to the hope part. Man, she got to go through a lot of shit to revive. Damn, girl. Well, good for her for being able to get through that, apparently so many times, because that's a mountain of bones and having to relive her deaths. Oh, poor Celestine. Yeah.

But still, that's a lot. Yeah, but she's a baller, so it's okay. Shai brings up, great point. If she's not just cheaply respawned by the emperor, but she's actually like rebuilding herself in the warp she becomes a lot cooler that way if it's not just the emperor going yeah

you're back and she actually has to go through these trials all the time like she's so much more of a badass that way it's pretty cool I mean she's already a baller but like that it adds more to it yeah oh yeah yeah she's tough is there any chance that she's like

Vulcan Vulcan's what eternal perpetual what is Vulcan perpetual. Is there any chance that she's like a minor perpetual, like kind of like Vulcan, but maybe not quite as much, because there seems to be a limit to how many times she can die? I don't think so, actually. I don't think she's... No, it's more just emperor shenanigans. Yeah, I think because Vulcan just kind of comes back alive along with other people, but he's not... He doesn't have this level of like... He doesn't have angel wings. He doesn't have like... bright shining light coming from his body and all this like emperor grace kind of stuff you know he's he's

i'm not going to call him just a guy and i'm definitely not going to call him imagine calling a primar just a guy i'm certainly not going to call him just a little guy because vulcan is a slab of beef that man vulcan is a big boy he is he is gigantic yes he is a mastodon holy shit but he is still just a guy. Just a guy. Yep, just a guy. Anywho, moving on, Celestein, most notably,

and we talked a bit about this, so I'll cover it already. For those of you who do not know, you should check out the fall of Kadia episode. Yeah, yeah, brother. Because she was there in the Kadian system during the fall of Kadia. She actually had operated as a beacon in the warp

to help those. lost by the emperor and could not see the Astronomicon. So when she arrived, like just covered in flame, she appeared also with two ships of sisters of battle that had been lost in the war up 1400 years ago. So she arrived with five full companies of battle sisters along with her. She actually also went to go fight a demon prince. and the two cannonesces had been killed by the demon prince

and she, with her ability, raised them from the dead. And these are her two little minions you see next to her model. She can raise sisters from the dead? Yep. And in fact, funny enough, it's actually a rule in game. Oh. That she can just raise dead minis? Sort of kind of.

So her two cannonesas that were killed by this demon, and they're cannonesas, so they're like captains, they're like leaders. Yeah. We're named Genevieve and Eleanor. And they became her Gemini Superior, which are the two gals that you see with her mini that also look like little mini versions of her.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, she has a special ability called Healing Tears, which allows her in game. if one of her two gals there have died to revive them from the dead. I love that her mini has dubs. I know, right? It's got dubs on it, too. I love that the mini has dubs too. Oh, man, the emperor does love his dubs.

But if you're running sisters, so every sister's player should be running celestine, it seems like. Because, like, why not? Well. She seems like silly, strong, and she can, just revive people, so why, why wouldn't you? Well, yeah, always a couple of reasons.

She expensive as hell? Yeah, she's 200 points out of 2,000, which is pretty high. Salisstein is very, very good. She is often taken, yes, but then you can also take Morvin Vahl, who is also a baller. Oh, yeah, she's the, is she the Nundum?

Yep, she's the giant Nundum. That's fair. Yeah, who has one of the best abilities in the game. So it's like, yeah, more involved. Well, I mean, either way, you're going to get a good, you're going to get a good sister. Honestly, not. Often people run both because they're just so, so fun.

That's a lot of points, though, right? Oh, yeah, but they hit hard. Anywho, during this time, they eventually kill this demon prince. And as we remember, call arrives. He's like, the pylons of the Zenos hold back the eye of tenos. terror and then treason's there and he's like hey get to my vault and all that shit and so all the night pylons are in the catacombs and they go down in the catacombs to hold off the fight but guess who's down in the cavido combs that's right it's our boy kyle he's got his

dodge ram he's got his monster energy and avidons here to play um anyway no abdon's down Kyle. Gila Issaquil. He's down there. You know, he fights Celestein a decent amount. And then they're going kind of toe for toe. But then the pylons activate and start shrinking the eye of terror, which actually starts to heavily damage Celstein because her powers come from the warp.

Yeah, yeah. So she gets her ass smacked by good old call, or not by Avidon for a little bit. Lord Creed, our cigar chomping son of a bitch, puts up a slight fight against him, which I think is basically blocks like two blows, which is probably very impressive, considering. Considering it's Abadon, it's Mr. the despoiler. And then he gets his back broken.

Oh, he gets bained. He gets bainesed. He gets his spine cracked. And good old, uh, sells. Steam was about to die, but then Inquisitor Grafax and the various pokey balls from Trazen's vault come out to save her, et cetera, et cetera. You know, everyone's here, endgame, the whole fun stuff. Yeah. We talk about it.

So Celestine was going, toe to toe to toe with Abby, huh? Selstein, she fucks, yeah. Damn. So if the Eye of Terror hadn't gotten shrunk and she was at that power, could she have beaten Mr. the Dispoiler? I don't know if Abidon gets beaten a lot because they need a villain to be beaten. He's a villain, yeah. But I'd probably say no. Abadon's just kind of this next level.

He's souped up by every single chaos god. And he's practically almost, he's like almost Primark level. The guy is pretty nuts with how much he's been souped up in strength. Yeah. It feels like, I don't know if. it's just me, but it feels like anything short of like the emperor and Abedon should be able to give them massive problems. Like he just feels like that, that almost like Megatron where it's like only Optimus Prime can beat him, but Optimus Prime always beats him. Uh, I'd say that, um, I'd say that

Gilliman would probably be able to take him out, but I don't think many things short of Gilman. And yeah, in the current, in the current tabletop right now, he's absolutely. ludicrously strong. Almost so too strong, I think, with it kind of done that thing, like, fine, you want to make fun of, you want to make fun of Avedon? Now try making fun of Avedon.

Yeah, make fun of him now, bitch. Yeah, to make fun of him now as he bongts your entire group. I'm happy for Avedon, because I always felt like he got needlessly shit on for how, like, kind of cool and, like, dope he seemed,

even though he's, like, an horrible villain. He seems, he seems cool. It seems like, You know, he accomplished a fair amount with the Black Crusades, even though he always lost because he's the bad guy, but yeah. Well, not always. He won one. Well, yeah, he got the Fall Acadia, which was the important one.

Also, it's not as soon that he lost them all because there was like, like some of them he like got things, like the Blackstone Fortress, which he needed in the 13th one. So one might say he was collecting. But anyway, yeah, she got taken down a peg, but then was the, of terror broke open again then, well, she's back to normal not a good way.

Super charged. Get juiced up. Hit guy hit steroids. Yeah, she got a juicy hit of steroids when that thing cracked open, I bet. Yeah. But everything past this, we've covered

a couple of prior episodes. They go through the Webway, they meet up with Yvrain, they go to the ice roll, grab some people, they go to McCrug, they go to Gilliman, They res Gileman. She's out there slapping Black Legion dudes with a broken arm, one-handed her sword, just slicing up CSM because she's, you know, the whole thing.

I think she had a wing-clips, like all this kind of stuff. What a badass. She is a total baller. And then from there on then afterwards, she's here and there fighting what she can. but you know every time she dies I mean she

I think she was actually she recently was just killed by Karn Really? I believe that she was just recently murdered by Karn the betrayer yep but of course

you know she'll get back up like she does I'm not sure why but like in my head I'm just like wow Karn killed her? Like, not that, like, Karn is weak or that Karn isn't to be, like, feared.

It's just, I don't know, Selestine seems like she's, like, so above Karn, especially with the eye of terror just wide open. Like, it almost seems like that he should be child's play next to her. Remember the old statement, though, that it is said that Korn himself has an extra pile of skulls by his throne only from Karn. That is true. Cairn's pretty pretty nutty too I mean have you seen that bicep I mean come on

Have you read the trayer Yeah also true Also true He's a guy Does Celestine get to choose When and where she revives or is it just like Oh yeah once she gets to the top of that bone pile Just blips back in

Wherever Does she have a choice My assumption is no but I don't have anything to back that up. Yeah, because it was like when she showed up again for the first time, she just came in like Radon just out of the sky. It's like, does that just kind of happen?

I'm doubting. She's like, oh, I need to go over here. I'm doubting it's like that every time. There is an audio book called Our Martyrid Lady that I listened to a while ago. And it's about assassins, and I think, and sleeper agents attempting to kill the Ecclesiark, which was Doge Van Dyer,

but now was a guy named Ecclesiarch Dice. And it involves... D.C. These nuts. Got them. I could know, but I'm sorry. And it was about her helping, like, save him. And it was actually a little bit interesting. Like, when she's out and about, her sword can turn off,

but also her wings are not like, a permanent part of her. She's just like, apparently there was a funny joke where she's like there on Terra with the Ecclesiarch. And she's kind of like walking around as like a bodyguard escort.

And everyone was asking her to turn her wings on. And she was like, it doesn't work like that. I need to be fighting. Oh, so only when she fights do they appear and unfurl and she can use them? She's like, I don't just, blast my wings out of the top. I use the one with time to fight.

It's like there's a battle. There's a faith in my heart. Yeah. So the wings aren't a permanent thing, actually. They kind of come on and off. Oh, I just thought they were just always attached back there. And like she just walked around like an angel with like these closed up wings on her back. I didn't realize they just poofed when she's not fighting. And then she just turns them on with the holy faith of the emperor in battle. Yeah, they poof.

There was a great moment where they needed. to get off the streets because of an assassin so she grabbed the Ecclesiark and started flying over the crowds and he was like, ah! Where did those come from? Jesus! No, not like that. She's like, no, Jesus, it's the emperor. Because he was an old man like 70 feet up

or 700 feet up and he was like, oh my God. Yeah. That was a fun book. That's the book where you got all the Greyfax Celestein shipping. That's where that came from was that book. Show me the Grafax. Yep

Shai said from what she can tell She appears where she's most needed Or something like that Because she always seems to appear In the middle of some war It certainly could be I do all I know is that that fun That fun fact about her wings is kind of cool

That is really cool actually And also She's got this very like She has a lot of like imagery You know She's very much the poster girl and like when she was on terror people would see her and be like holy shit it's her yeah um shy said uh meta wise i think she's supposed to be based on jean de arc considering a bunch of

friends references and the fact that real jean claimed you have visions from saint catherine like catherine of our uh marty of lady fame jean was also first considered a heretic like celestine was first to repentia but eventually she became a catholic saint well games worksh as anything if not blatant. What? This isn't a games workshop original?

O.C. O.C? Wow. I was stunned and dismayed. That's all of their property. There's certainly a lot of that. There's certainly a lot of that going on. But yeah, Selestine is, is,

is still what she be doing. She's got the wings. She's got the burning sword. She's got the doves and the cherubs and her two pals. And she goes out an exact vengeance for the emperor and provides a strong faith to all of those around her that are not, uh, that are not prepped for for that life. You think the wings stay on during sex?

Oh, absolutely. Do you think in order? She's like, have you brought protection? And then she's like, oh, don't worry. And she pulls out a dove and she just lays it on the bed. She's like, he'll be watching over us. The guy is always disappointed because it's like, he's like you were faking. It weren't you.

He's like, how could you tell? The wings didn't come out. In terms of the video game, the tabletop game itself, the way she works is that she's pretty tanky. her armor is very tough it has the same stat line as Terminator armor and her two friends or Gemini

basically what happens is they have they have two wounds or health each and then the two of them die off first and then she's got about six health but she also has like a minus one damage thing because she's so tough and if she dies fully as well you roll a dice

and if you roll a two or higher she comes back to life with full HP If you roll a one She is needed somewhere else And she is removed from play Oh Which I have rolled a one That's cool actually

Many of times Which is always Fucking aggravating That's actually a really cool Mechanic to put on to her That sort of goes with the lore Where it's like oh yeah She's either Revised here or she's needed elsewhere

In the game as well After you move her instead of like You can fire her her blade like a gun like a flame thrower which is kind of fun um but instead you can also not fire her blame and instead uh use it as or use her healing tears to revive one of her friends which makes her okay well it also pulls her back to full HP i have had a time where where someone has laid in all of their damage into cell steam uh killed her i revive her i beat their ass back and then they hurt her again, but they left her with one wound.

And I brought her back up to full HP and revived a friend. And they were like, why do I even bother? Why do I even try? You're so toxic. This is awful. Damn, they laid all that damage into her only for it all to be worthless. Oh, God. Selstein puts the faith in my minds, but the fear in everyone else's.

Oh man, I would quit after that. After that round, if I was the other, I would just quit, just be like, you know what, fuck it, I'm done. This game is stupid. I quit 40K. Get me the hell out of this. Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

Fuck this. Just gotta wait. You just got to wait till Selstein, I hope of Rage quits life. She's just like, you know what? I'm done with this shit. And then she just doesn't climb to mountain. I need it elsewhere. She sits down in like a huff.

And she's just like, I'm just going to play with my doves. All right. All right. Celstein dove won't win. Oh, that's gel, yes. Just a shirt with a bunch of doves on it. It's like three doves just floating up to the shoulder.

If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't. Yeah. All right. That's it for the episode. Let's go. Celestine is a badass. She's so fun.

core let's go celestine she is super cool she's a great concept really neat gives a lot of identity to the sisters very iconic it's it is one of i wish there's a bit more lore on her but as far as characters go she she is one of the best i'd say and i am not biased at all totally not i mean what exists of her lore that i've heard is very dope uh i i i like it a lot uh also her little trial that she has to go through to revive her are pretty fucked up, but you know, you're reviving yourself. It shouldn't be easy. No, absolutely not.

Coming back for the dead is hard. Yeah. So I've heard. Hopefully I'm able to come back from the dead, because I don't want to stay dead. Good point. Shy? That would suck.

Chai, stab him. Let's see if he comes back. Oh, no.