Adeptus Ridiculous - SANGUINIUS: FABULOUS HAWK-BOY | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/https://www.collectiblesquids.com/ code: ADRICSanguinius or The Great Angel was the Primarch of the Blood Angels Space Marine Chapter. One of the most beloved figures in the Imperium, Sanguinius was among both the most noble and mightiest Primarchs. His charisma, humility, and loyalty to the Emperor to the point of self-sacrifice has earned him a great deal of reverence, even in the 41st Millennium.Support the show

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Also, you told me I printed 18 of them for a wall, and then you say I printed a thousand of them. You can't even keep up with your own lore. Yeah, so? My God. Cry about it. I think I have my gecko gif. God, damn it. All right.

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Do it. Do it. Okay All right DK you know You know how if when like Half-Life 3 will come out one day Yes

It'll come out one day Maybe Maybe And when it does No matter how good it is It will It will not live up to the hype No probably not

Half-Life 3 has been hyped up so much That no there's no chance they will ever live up to the infamy. If there are four individuals standing in a line, separate from each other, how many shadows are cast? Well, it depends how big these people are. No, just how many shadows, numbers.

This is four people, I would assume four shadows. Unless they're really tight together, then you kind of only get one shadow because they're so close together. True. I would say the word I would use is foreshadow. I hate you. I'm foreshadowing the fact that Blood Angels fans, my guys, I'm going to do my best, but let me tell you, it's not going to live up to the hive. Wow, that was so subtle, dude.

Really? Dude, I am, I am like, I'm as subtle. I'm subtle. You're as subtle as a jackhammer to the forehead. Well, I have been known to have a very strong forehead. Oh, that's fair. That's fair. The memes about your forehead are vast and plenty.

Also, unfortunately, we will have to delete our Talk About Blood Angels, you Cowards, sticker that Shai has in the Discord. I forgot that existed. Or maybe we should just re-upload it with it scratched off, and it just says, you cowards? Yeah, scratch out, talk about Blood Angels and just you cowards, yeah. Oh, boy. All right, well, okay, we already knew this was coming.

We hit a fantastic goal on our Patreon at 17K for everyone. Everyone who did that. You're all incredible. We really do appreciate it. I am, I'm going to do my best. I did some research. I read some excerpts from some book. Unfortunately, the sanguineous primark book is coming out in this year in December.

So we don't get as good of a backstory like we would get with curs or percherabo, et cetera. Or Alferius, because they released his book recently, like the ones I read. But we'll probably fucking do an episode after the book comes out. We'll probably read the damn book and just, yeah. Do an updated after his book comes out episode, yeah. But today is sanguineous. It is the red angel, the angel, the avenging angel, angel, angel, blood, blood, blood, angel.

Fucking so much blood and angels in the shit. I'm excited! I know you've been so hyped on the blood angels for the longest time without knowing jack all about them. I know nothing about them. All I know is like every time there's a book that we read that has primarcs and they refer to Sanguinis, he's the best. He has angel wings. besides Horace, he's the best.

And, like, aren't there a bunch of primarks that were like, I don't know, maybe Sanguinius should have taken the War Master title instead of Horace, because, you know, Sanguinius is pretty great. And I know about the famous emperor moment, and it's just, I'm excited. And the blooding sounds so cool with, like, the black rage and the little blood vials and everything. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm glad to get this cool. So, obviously, since we're doing sanguineus here, like, was Dorn our last primark? I think it was Dorn.

I think so. I think Dorn was the last one. So I mentioned in the Dorn book, or the Dorn one, that I am trying to spend more time not getting into the hyper specifics. There's going to be plenty of fucking like, oh, what about the part with Sanguinius did this, or, oh, don't forget about the part where Sanguinius did this. There's too much sanguinius. He's one of the major fucking characters in the entire goddamn saga. Um, but I'm trying to get more in a sense of feel for what he's like. And you know, he's not as much of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a,

cushion angel that I thought he would be. He seemed like he was very soft angelic BF fucking, uh, gorgeous features and also. And go, go get me wrong. He, he, he is visually, but, um, there's a, there's a, there's a very good excerpt that someone mentioned where it was something about angels and God in a book from the prophecy in

1995 and it said did you ever notice how in the Bible whenever God needed to punish someone or make an example or whenever God needed a killing he sent an angel do you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like a whole existence spent praising your God but always with one

wing dipped in blood, would you ever really want to see an angel? And that's, you get a little bit of that as like the avenging angel is like angels were not. He says, and I quote, angels were not created for kindness. So his soft, uh-woo fucking angel featured BF crap is definitely a bit more overblown. I thought he would be a little bit too much of a goody two shoes. and that's what makes it sadder that he died. But no, he's actually really tragic in life and in death. And it's, uh, he's, uh, he's, he's unsure a lot.

He's, he's the kind of guy who seems like he always wants everyone to get along and he tries really hard to facilitate that. He's kind to, yeah, he's kind to everybody. He wants everyone to prosper and do well. And he, he tries to understand everyone. Um, I do believe he was the closest friends with Horace, uh, which is, in addition, which is... Yeah.

I believe him and Horace were probably by far the closest. But like, for example, here's your quote. Here's your initial quote. All right. Sanguineous. It should have been him.

He was the vision and strength to carry us to victory and the wisdom to rule once victory is won. For all his aloof coolness, he alone has the emperor's soul in his blood. Each of us carry

part of our father within us, whether it is his hunger for battle, his psychic talent, or his determination to succeed. Sanguinius holds it all. It should have been his. That is quote from Horace. Wow, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I think this was maybe about the Horace, Horace, Horace getting war master. I'm not 100% sure.

But yeah, it's a lot from, from Horace. And like, there's, this is other excerpt between them. I just found really fun, and it makes me learn a lot more about them than anything I've read so far. The two of them were dealing with a compliance of a world, destroying some Zenos. And Horace said that he would let some of them live if they released all the humans. Sanguinius was kind of quiet, little contemplative. And it says, how can I ease your just quiet, brother? Horace went on, affecting a serious meyne.

The angel eyed him. If the gray, Zenos, had done as you asked, if it had set the thralls free, tell me, would you have really let the aliens go? Horace nodded as if the answer were obvious. I am a man of my word. I would have let them leave the planet's surface, make for orbit. He cocked his head. But when they met your ships up there, well, he gave a small shrug.

You've never been as agreeable as I. The smile became a moment of laughter. Sanguinius gave a slight mocking bow. So true, I must content myself with merely being the better warrior. Don't make me pluck those wings, Horace retorted. Oh. Perish the thought, said Sanguonius. Without them, I'd only be as handsome as you are.

That would be tragic, Horace agreed. Oh, little tit for tat between brothers. I like it. Very, very cute. Very sweet, you know. Very, very sort of, you know, sibling, not quite a sibling rivalry, but sort of that, that sort of fun familial rivalry. I like it.

Which is rare among many of the primarks, because they're such assholes. Yeah, and they're always like, they're either so serious or they're so devoted to the emperor, and it's like Dorn where it's just like rules, rules, strict, strict, build, build, that you so rarely get this sort of light-hearted jabs,

you know, these sort of brotherly jabs at each other. Mm-hmm. So, let's begin in the, the, The pod. Pod. As we all know, the emperor had 20 pot or 18 pot, 20 potts. And then launched them all out into the galaxy. Well, he didn't do that, but chaos took them.

Chaos did it because... Chaos did it. From the book, right? Yes, from the first heretic. It is assumed that the emperor made a pact with the chaos gods to make the prime market and did not meet his end of the deal. And so they yanked them. But interesting tidbits I read in here was that it said the emperor put arcane protection on the primarks to stop chaos from interfering with them.

However, despite this, they were still able to cause issues with the capsules leading to the gene seed problems and mutations they have. The primark's powers, so to speak, is possibly assumed that is because of chaos's manipulation. um okay such as alferius being split um uh... uh... uh... Lorgar's weird hearing of chaos

and the warp and uh, sanguinius is wings um sanguinius got a pretty light you know if if the if the chaos gods had been able to kind of do a little

fucky-wucky and all he got was wings whereas Lorgar hears the whispers of chaos Alpharis and Omagon gets split it's like oh you know that's not not too bad. You just get some cool wings that make you angelic and further prove to everybody that your best boy. That's, could be worse. Oh, yeah. That's definitely all he got was wings. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, he definitely only got wings. That's true. I don't know the whole story, do I.

Oh, you kind of do, but yeah, there's other problems with him. I'm jumping the gun a little, aren't I? So his home world is Ball Secundus, also known as in the main planet of Ball. A. L. Ball is planet with two moons. The place is also where he was found was a place known as the Angels Fall. He was found by these wandering tribes of humans known as the folk

of pure blood or simply just the blood. Chaos change that Sanguinius gave him tiny little little angel wings on his back. Angels fall, they found an angel. They must have thought that was one hell of a prophecy for them. It may have been renamed to Angels Fall

after that. Oh, because they found the angel at the falls. They named it Angel's Fall. Or it was Angels Fall. I don't know. Either way, both makes sense. Not important. Now, Ball Secundus is a radiation-stricken world. Shit's fucked. It is not a great spot to live in, which is why there is a huge amount of radiation-strue mutants. And so they originally were like, oh, my God, it's a mutant, and they wanted to kill it.

Because it has wings on its back. Oh, oh, when they first found sanguinous, they're like, oh, shit, this is a mutant radiation did something to it. Let's just knife it. Let's just knife the baby. You know, strangle the baby in the crib, whatever. Okay. Meanwhile, Angron jumps down and kills Eldar. Yeah, very 40K, radiation-stricken world. Everybody's scared. Sure. Makes sense. But everything about him was like perfect. He was the perfect baby. It was perfect sanguinius. So instead, compassion beat them, and they decided to keep them and spare him.

Okay. Now, his early life is, quote unquote, lost time in memory, aka the book comes out in December. I was going to say, so they haven't written it yet, right? Yeah, basically. But in the classic worlds, he grew to maturity very fast. His wings grew gigantic with glistening white feathers, but the feathers were like strong as steel.

They were really darn tough. At three weeks, he was. was as large as a three-year-old child and could walk. At one year, he was about the size of a young adult, say early 20s. And then, you know, after that, he's grown within like probably two years. Once he gets to like full-grown man size, they kind of don't grow much after that. Yeah. So then the tribe grew and prospered under his guidance.

The ball light, as in people from ball, feral group of mutants surprised them. because they like Roman groups of mutants would come and like try to kill people and sanguineous naturally in primark fashion killed them all single-handed and like bare-handed I believe numbering over a hundred of them which is at this point doesn't even sound impressive anymore because they're primarks yeah I was gonna say that yeah that's that's that's the bare minimum a primark should be doing is bare-fisted killing a hundred mutants yeah no big deal yeah this is the first time however the tribe ever saw him angry, which was horrifying to them because it's just terrifying seeing

the avenging angels, so to speak. But it was because Senguinius saw his friend's lives were in danger. And it's the first time they ever assumed that the blood rage overtook him, the genetic flaw of, you know, a thing, this kind of like mindless rage, so to speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, Balsicundas, like I mentioned, was a radio after wasteland, and the mutant tide of people is becoming a real problem. However, under his leadership, they pushed back the mutants of the world in hopes of building a civilization on ball, and he was worshipped as a god by his peers.

Because, I mean, because look at the motherfucker. Like, look at those wings. Jesus. It's 40K. He's a primark. And, well, to be fair, he is a very angelic-looking primark. So if any of them is going to get worshipped as a god, it's, yeah, it's going to be him. also every art of him is so

like he looks so good with like that gold armor and those wings and like glowy weapons and floating like flowing gold hair and yeah he is he is

he's pretty perfect that's part of the point yep um so after this this is probably like half the book that's going to be there but for here the emperor arrives

the emperor shows up he arrives at ball landed at the conclave that they have, which is a giant amphitheater when they do policy and stuff. And Sanguinius partitioned the emperor had this big old speech that the emperor watched him. Sanguinius did this big old, like,

powerful speech to him and his people, and he flew into the sky, and everyone cheered, and then everyone clapped. And then the whole, all that crap. And so the emperor was like, all right, yep, this is my son, yep, yep, I believe it. That's definitely one of mine, sure. Sure, sure. Definitely.

So, this is the, not the, not cringiest, what the cheesiest fucking thing I'm about to read. The angel knelt to the emperor immediately. Tears, crystal tears falling from his cheeks. When landed on the radioactive soil, bloomed flowers where they landed. Okay. God damn it.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's a little, little on the nose. but, you know, it is GW, so I... It's not the cringest thing they've ever done. Flowers bloomed with his tears. I'm sorry, it just gets me. He is a perfect angel, so...

What are you going to do? It just gets me, man. So, anyway, the best of the tribesmen of the blood were taken to become Astardis and found the ninth legion. The blood angels are the ninth legion. And Sanguinius is arm. was also really fancy and pretty interesting

to read about. The ornament on his chest was the little heart there is actually called a Meglidari ruby and the center cut was cut into a heart atop golden flames

which was supposed to be the burning spirit of the blood angels and then the four little rubies above it are actually the world's dedicated to the Legion's Comfort. from, which is Terra, ball, and it's two moons. Oh, that's dope.

I like that. Yeah, it's a really fancy concept, right? Oh, yeah, it's a really, really fancy concept. One shoulder, you can also see what had a war cloaks line called a Carnadon, which is a sort of snow leopard, but way bigger. And it was his first kill alongside his first battle with his Legion in their first new area. A little memento of the first kill. Okay.

That makes sense. Hence it's a little bit there He's even got it on his robe But when he's not wearing his armor He's uh for his weapons I believe he has The spear is called the spear of Telesto Which I will always giggle at as the destiny

Destiny Yep I'm just like oh no wonder Ruined destiny No wonder he died He didn't actually kill by Horace He just fucking glitched out and crashed Telesto users Fucking Telesto

And then his spear Or his sore was I think the the blade and carmine and the spear of telesto are as two major weapons. Okay. Now, he eventually then came the Great Crusade, which I'm assuming will also get more in his book. But it was told that his closest friendships he formed with were Horace. Apparently, Lehman Rus and Jagatai Com,

but honestly, it seemed like everyone fucking loved the guys. So, I mean, I think he was probably close with Magnus too. They helped make the librariansists to learn more about psychers and a conclave, and he asked the con to join that. Yeah. It seems like pretty much everyone fucking liked him. I think maybe the only one who maybe didn't love him much was Curz, but Curz hates

everyone. But even then... Who does Curz love? That's like, of course, of course the devil hates the angel. Yeah, but you're like, I think maybe Angron didn't like him much. But at the same time, Engron once just thought about Sanguineus, and it sued the nails in his head. Wow.

I don't fucking know if anyone does or does not like the guy. Like, howl the who, maybe even fucking Curz had an altar of him. God if I know. Probably. But out of all of them, it was probably Curz and Angron that maybe didn't like him as much as everybody else. I don't remember. I think I remember in the Alpharius book, he was like, everyone likes Singuinius and like, me too. And he's like, everyone hates X and what occurs.

And he's like, oh, there's also Ferris Manus and that. But anyhow, The Great Crusade, he goes out, does his stuff. Compliance World, et cetera. But then, of course, you know, Singuinez's real story hits with the hair. Heresy hits, because that's the thing, right? Oh, sure. The thing. Yeah.

The Horace heresy starts to come on out, and Horace in particular started to really hate Sanguineas due to his chaos corruption, of course. Of course. But he was also by far the most fucking scared of him. Oh, rightfully so, I would imagine, since it's sanguineous. Like, he's the only one that could even possibly rival. horse, right? That's one thing.

Also, just because being such a powerful person, Sanguinius had the gift of foresight, which we'll talk about a bit later. Oh. But Sanguinius and we'll talk a little bit more about Currism, this one. It's not because I'm biased. I swear. Oh, sure. Certainly not. You have no affinity for the night lords and would never,

never shoehorn them into an episode just because you like them so much. No. Fuck you It would never happen But I think there's a decent amount To be said that Curz and Sanguinius are kind of The yin and the yang of each other

Because Sanguinius has foresight Like Curz But he often saw the good futures Or better futures Or in better yet Could control it a lot more Where Curz saw

Everything awful deep and dark And him being killed by dad Oh boy by an assassin. And he was also, and you know, like, curses doesn't need friends because he's got the streets. He's got the street. And he wants vindication more than he wants friends anyway.

So who gives a shit who likes me? Well, we'll talk more about the foresight thing a bit back into the trial. It makes more sense. But anyway, Horace heresy. Horace do not like, do not like Sanguineas now, very scared of Sanguineas. So he made a plot to try to get rid of Senguinius and the Blood Angels and by doing so he utilized an old secret he found out

a long time ago or a couple years back he knew that like Senguin used to be impossible to turn just impossible to turn oh sure so he used something against him he found out which was the genetic flaw of the blood angels known as the Red Thirst Oh okay Now we're getting into vampire territory, right?

Yes. The red thirst is the vampiric kind of craving for blood that initially manifests in the marine. And it becomes kind of like this illness that gets worse and worse with time, which also partly I think helps feed into the black rage a little bit. But because of the blood angels look, they have the more pale skim, they've got some slightly alive. elongated teeth there, and then they have that strong urge to drink the blood of their enemies, which can get stronger and stronger, which eventually degenerates them into this uncontrollable thing of madness, where they just become unhinged and murdering, like, murderous machines. The black rage, right?

The black rage, I think, I always had a little bit of a hard time with this, but I think the black rage is when they, it's almost how they go into this murder-induced coma, where they just fucking rip and tear. until it is done. But the red thirst has that vampiric thirst for blood, which, well, if you want to get yourself some blood, as a, kill people. Is that how you get blood?

Wow, no kidding. And that's why they wear the blood vials, right? Yeah, I believe so. I think it's to help stave this off a little bit. Yeah. So they, yeah, it's also not just the blood of enemies. it's the blood of it's the blood of everybody

they just want blood period it's not like they're thirsting for blood from combatants or blood from their rivals it's just we need blood they're just like vampires or it's just any blood will do but this is a genetic flaw of the blood angels

that sanguinius has known about for several years however he kept it from all the other primarks and the emperor he didn't tell anyone Some people knew the truth, like the higher-ups in his legion, but only their master apothecary guy named Askeleon or Aiskelon knew the extent, and they were trying to figure out a way to fix it.

Horace saw him killing one of his own legionaries who had fallen to the, who had fallen to the red thirst and black rage. And Horace witnessed that, and he swore he would tell nobody and not. even the emperor and he would never reveal the secret to anyone, which he didn't while he was normal Horace. Oh, okay. I was going to say, wow, I mean, surely that would be something you would absolutely try to

exploit once you turn traitor and heretic. Which he did. The main plan of Horace was signing on as the Cygnus campaign. And decades later, he was able to find a way to exploit that flaw. and in a way to try to sway the blood angels into the hands of the chaos gods, most particularly corn. Because I think corn thinks the blood angels are pretty baller. Blood for the blood god, right?

Naturally. So in an effort to weaken them, he sent them to the Cygnus cluster to cleanse seven worlds and 15 moons from a cluster of Xenos invaders and to release the human settlers from the overlords that were there. Once the sanguineus in the blood angels arrived They found out that the entire area was just fucking covered in the ruinous powers The entire place turned into like a living realm of chaos

With all the worlds turning into demon worlds and the humans just slaughtered Wow, that is quite a surprise to find We think you're going to fight some Zenos and oh by the way It's all chaos Oh oops all chaos Captain Crunch you can't fucking Keep getting away with it. Who's going to make up for the fault when you made it only berries?

You made only berries. Damn you. You expect me to purchase your mistakes? Corporate America again. Capitalism wins again. God damn you. So this area was under the power of someone name is Kyris the perverse. It was a keeper of secrets, great demon of Slanesh.

They were immediately ambushed. and immediately crippled killed most of their navigators and astropaths and since this is the first time they ever fought chaos it's just like oh my god new enemies they didn't know about chaos they didn't know what the fuck chaos was because emperor and being dumbass yep stupid emperor

so chyrus taunts and sanguinius often to like hey take back the star system pussy to do your best to what's wrong huh you never seen you never seen a slanesh demon with six tits That tall glass of slinoosh, man That tall glass of slnuch That's slenushi What's wrong?

You never seen a tongue with ten teeth Oh god I hate the idea of a tongue having teeth Something about this is just Spike spiky tongue Anyway They fought at a major Crown world demon's power

They did their best Fight the back whole thing And he fought Singonius that is fought a corn bloodthirster named Ka Bonda. So Ka Bonda was the bloodthurster of Corm and taunted him a tot and said, Hey, Horace betrayed you.

Get fucked, idiot. You fucking dummy, dumb head, stupid. This is what you get for being a dumb, dumb head, etc. I kept taunting him the whole deal. So rude for a bloodthirster. So. The initial idea was to find a way to, to trick Sanguinius

into going into the hands of corn and his legion to succumb to the black rage into the grasp of corn, you know? And this was the, this was the demon that would help bury them there.

Right. The two of them fought each other. And he stabbed a pretty deep gash into the heart of the bloodthirster, but was caught off balance by its whip and sent to the ground with a gigantic smash to Sanguinius's face

with a flat of his ass. Um, the game dana's dong and Instead of Instead of killing him The bloodthurster laughed him even more And then went to go murdering all of his blood angels Trying to help him

I think he killed like 500 Blood Angels Just sweeps of his axe I mean I know it's a bloodthirsty But that is a lot of blood angels 500 of them Yeah he fucking went to town I mean I guess if he got one up on sanguinius

I guess it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could just totally wreck 500 space marines on his own. It just seems like a lot to solo. So with the actual, what was it? With the actual, like, psychic power of Senguinius, he's a very potent psycher.

I think, is Magnus the only one that's stronger than he is? Psychic-wise? He's pretty fucking up there. In terms of psychic potential. He's pretty damn high. Um, but with his psychic power and strength, all of the blood angels dying kind of sent feedback loops and knocks sanguineus out. Um, so he went out unconscious as they were, uh, as they were, you know, finding off the, yeah, getting the slaughtered. Yeah.

I think, shy, correct me if I'm wrong. This is the first major onset of the black rage for his sons as they were like, holy fuck our primark. re- they started running and trying to kill all the corn people. I do remember people saying that when he dies to Horace, that also triggers the Black Rage in a bunch of them. I think it's both times, but with this particular one, it's a lot more how you say

like it's the first major black rage event and then his death obviously revitalized it. Oh, sure, because I mean, if anything was going to trigger the Black Rage, you would be sanguineus's death. So, like, when this black rage event happens for, like, the first time, is it just, like, everybody just goes stir crazy and just starts falling to madness? Or, like, how do you get out of the... Can you get out of the black raid?

Or are you just dunzo until somebody kills you? I believe the black rage is, like, the murder comas that I mentioned earlier. And you can get out of the black rage, but it's, like, a debilitating thing. And the red thirst gets worse. and worse and worse and worse. And the black rage event, the more black rage events you have, the worse and worse and worse if it comes.

And it slowly gets the depilitation going. Oh, okay. So you can suffer numerous black rage events. I just, in my head, I just figured once you fell to the black rage, that was it. And you were just kind of like,

you never came out of it. And somebody had to like kill you or something. I believe that there's like a level you can reach in the red thirst in the black rage that gets really fucking bad. And that's when you become a death company, which is a special type of Marine whose sole purpose is to die in battle

as like a blazing fucking I think in game they literally carry two chain swords and they just run at you and they're just like I will die I will die now in battle instead of having to be executed

for my issue my many problems yeah yeah and then it was particularly crazy when right after they got rid of all the corn demons they said wow it's morbin time and they morphed all over those guys

I thought we were done with more memes I really really did This is the vampire one dude Also are there any How to put this When you're afflicted by the black rage And you die Can they put you in a dreadnought

I think there are death company dreadnots also Because like if you just like stir crazy And you know just Sure send the crazy black rage dreadnought in I believe there is the Black Raged Dreadnought, which is the fucking Death Company Dreadnoughts. I'm pretty positive. I think you can actually run one on, yeah, Death Company Dreadnought, here it is. Those seem like they would be a little crazy.

Yeah, I think so. I think they would be quite crazy, in fact. Can you imagine falling to the Black Rage dying and then getting revived to be put into a Dreadnought? And you still have the Black Rage and you still have to cope with it. It's like, even in death, I cannot escape the Black Rage. Even in death, cope. Yep. Even in death.

The chamber has to be filled with copium. Anywho, they eventually fought back all the demons here and the like. They did not get a chance to kill Calbonda, I don't believe. But they were able to get their ass out of there and rescue Sanguinius and deal with all its stuff. And this is the point where it's like Sanguinius, when he was being taunted, he's like, ah, Horace betrayed you, lo, lo, lo, lo. This is when he kind of was worried that this might be the... the case. And so Senguinius has foresight similar to Kurs.

The thing is, is that GW has a little bit of a hard time when they talk about the foresight thing. The main thing for Singuineas is he, like he would often see a better future, so to speak, than Kurswum. And he would be going to get the better future. Kurs saw his death at the hands of the assassin. And later on, Sanguinius saw his death by Horace.

Oh. I'm assuming after this betrayal, because I don't, I mean, maybe, I don't know if he saw it beforehand. So Sanguinius sees a better future, and he still sees himself getting killed by Horace? The idea is that the emperor lives because he dies to Horace. Oh, right, right.

Yeah, the best future possible would be Sanguinius dying and then the Emperor living and Horace's heresy being, or his betrayal being overthrown. That's, I suppose that's true, yeah. There was that concert or that excerpt with the con that we talked about in the con episode where Sanguinius talks about how he feels like he's going to, or he can see his future death by Horace, but the Emperor alive. And the Khan's like, well, I don't really fucking want you to die. But the idea was that

Con, picking sides, and doing all these kinds of things, Khan has that specific statement where he's like, will I save lives? Sanguania says many. He's like, oh, then I shall ride out.

And he goes and does his thing. And he rides out because, of course he does, because he's the con. It's the con, of course, yeah. So he sees that possible future. And I believe he sees a bit more of a positive future comparatively.

I mean, I mean, Curse from the streets was always, saw his, like he saw the emperor when the emperor arrived and he was like, I literally see the future of you killing me with an assassin. I also, I also live on this horrible, horrible planet and this drama when everything sucks. But the rooted concept with Kerr is that is the question of fatalism. Curz likes to assume that the future is set in stone because, because he can't be changed, yeah, because he likes, because then he gets an excuse for the horrible things he does.

Right, he gets like a pass Like fate made me do it Like I had no chance Like this was forced upon me Yeah which is like Part of the mental illness of him He doesn't want to feel like a monster He wants to just to be the way it is

Like it's not my choice This is fate This is fate This is destiny I had I couldn't have changed it even if I wanted to This is I was born to be Whereas Sanguinius doesn't see it that way He doesn't see the future set in stone like that

But the future he sees The one where he dies to Horace is the one where the emperor lives. So it's not about fatalism, it's more like, I'd prefer this future, even if it's my death. Yeah, even if I die,

as long as the emperor lives, that's much more preferable. So after this horrible campaign against the demons, Sanguinius reawakened, and they did a warp jump to the closest system, which not cut off by the current raging ruin storm

by Lorgar and the word bearers. And this would be them being sent to Ultramar. And this was the, creation of Imperium as Secundus, which we talked about a little bit, a small, honestly, very short stint of a second Imperium between three people, Gilliman, Sanguinius, and the Lion. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's quite the trio. It's a good trio. Singuineas was named the leader as the, the second emperor.

They even refer to him as the emperor very often. Hell yeah. Because this is what they needed Like they need a small government You know If anyone is going to be like We need a government It's going to be fucking Gilliman

Of course Of course Of course probably Gilman's suggestion Yep We need government We need a leader We need politicians We need taxes

Let me do the taxes guys I swear I'm really good at it Yeah The lion was named as the Lord Protector Of Imperium Secundus And Singuinius as the leader Very very shocking

Positions for them to have Would have never guessed at all, that that's what the lion would want. Ironic, as the Lord Protector of the Imperium, after being named it, has Conrad Kerr's hop out of his flagship and immediately just start ripping people up on Ultramar, just starts going from planet to planet being like, ha, ha, ha, this fucking murder and fear,

and he started inciting civil war in the Ultramar system to destabilize all the planets. Shocking. Shocking. Very shocking. Very shocking, yep. So instead they eventually finally fucking get to, you know, this is when the lion was like, I'm going to nuke him.

It's like, my mom's there, please don't. They, there was trying to reduce as many civilian casualties as possible. No orbital bombardment, no rad saturation, no, et cetera, et cetera. Even though the worlds were destabilizing and civil war was starting to reign because of all of his terror tactics, it still is like Gilman's like no stop it stop it lion

stop trying to kill all my people stop it so lion found him confronted him beat him in a duel with Kerr's that is he asked

Kerr's why he turned traitor and his answer was why not yeah all things considered for Kerr's like why not fuck it says there's there's a monster in his head that he cannot control

and so it's the lion kind of felt bad and decide to pummel him in unconsciousness instead of killing him. They put Curze on trial, which honestly was quite funny, because they just like Sid Curz down, he like shakes his manacles and fucking pouts,

like puts his like bottom lip out, he's like, muh. It's like Curz on trial, that must have been quite the show. Like, oh, it absolutely was. This is actually a really interesting excerpt.

I'd pay a pay-per-view fine to watch that one. It's, it is very funny. Curz is quite the Joker. It's a little weird. He's got this very, Lowell-a-Mow kind of thing to him. But he's like, I didn't do anything wrong.

My job is terror tactics. I did terror tactics. There's no crime. What do you mean? And he just pointed at the lion. He's like, oh, you guys put me on trial, not that guy. That asshole is the nuke systems. But that's the thing is that it's, lion says, you accuse me of breaking the law.

He says, a hypocrite. You killed far more citizens than the world than I have. And it turns out the lion bombed shit anyway. Yep. That sounds like the lion all right. But didn't tell Gilliman. Oh. I think I remember you telling me that for, but yeah.

So Sanguinius is there. He's like in front of the trial. And he's just, he's looking at all them. He's trying to handle it. He's trying to talk to Lion and Gilliman and keep everyone calm. And he, Linguineas has the very nice ability to just full. fling his wings out if you ever wants everyone to shut the fuck up. It is a nice part of having wings.

Very handy. The room goes dead. Yep. But yes, the lion decided to bomb people anyway and disguises drop pods instead of missiles and things. Oh. And so Gilliman was fucking mad. Not surprising. I imagine Gilliman and Sanguineas were none too happy about needless nukeing.

I like this excerpt a lot It's like It is not so said the lion I withdrew my troops at your behest Only them did you tie my hands With your vacillation Yes hands tied Cackled curs jangling as manacles

Nobody can do any damage With their hands tied can they That's pretty good I like that So Sanguinius eventually kind of Got everyone to shut the fuck up And Gilliman broke the lion's sword on his knee

which he was very angry about I was gonna say that's probably a very special sword some sort of relic sword that he's very fond of but the weak lion says weakness he bellowed thrusting the shards towards Gilliman's back self-righteous never

self-righteous never conquered the galaxy brother and it will not save you from Horace and it says be gone he heard sanguineus say not turning around immediately the lion regretted his words, remembering the vision that had beset his lord of late. Will not save you from Horace. And lately, Zinguoyanus has been seeing his death from Horace.

But the emperor surviving, that's a low blow, lion. That's a low blow. Leave, brother. The triumvirance has ended. You are not welcome in Imperium Secundus. So they kick him out. Good for them. Screw you, lion.

But he was, was going to leave the system originally, but instead, the lion came back later, teleported back down there and said, hold up, because Sanguinus was about to kill Kurz, straight up, just execute him. And he said, hold up, wait a moment. Curz said he's killed by an assassin he keeps dreaming about, which means the emperor must still be alive at the time. Oh, okay.

So, okay, okay. That's a nice little development. I like that thinking. So if we kill Kurs now, the future of his death by the assassin might not become, the emperor might be dead. That's why there's no assassin. It might change everything irrevocably in a way that's way worse than if we just let him go. So, well, let's not let him go, but keep him. Well, yeah, yeah, keep him bound or keep him chained up or keep him in a dungeon or something.

Yeah, the lion decided to become the jailer instead. to watch over Kurz. How did that go? Well, not great. I think he gets away. But the main thing, actually, after this, because the siege of terror is after this, but there is another little excerpt that's important.

The main one here was the last time Curz and Sanguinius ever saw each other. Okay. And says, Sanguinius put his hopes to rest. Father won't have you executed. I believe he should, but you're right, he won't. Prison will be very dull, said Kurz. I'll miss our conversations.

It's like, father might do worse, he said. He watched Kurz's face closely. He might forgive you. He struck home. Curz's mask of contempt, hell fell, the unease returned. Their reptilian eyes widened as they saw destiny enter a state of flux. In a storm of emotions that passed in micro-tremmers over the night haunter, Sanguania saw anger.

and doubt. He saw horror again the thought that the universe really was not as Kurds had known it to be for so long

and for so absolutely. He saw the rarest of things in Conrad's eyes. He saw hope. And that was all he needed as he shoved

courage into the stasis coffin, as he lay prone and helpless. He might forgive you, Sangonius repeated. I don't.

You cannot have that redemption. I won't let you. Rest certain in your destiny. You will have it, and I am not taking you to father. He says, you can't kill me either. I die at the hands of father's assassin.

So I'm not going to kill you. I'm going to jettison your coffin into the void. The assassin will find you when the time comes. It may be millennia, Conrad. And so the hope vanished into a different form of horror. It's like your destiny won't be altered. It will be as you say. He stepped back and jessing the coffin as,

as it froze Conrad in mid-screen. Damn. And that's actually where... Damn. All right. Where Conrad's... Comrade's Primark book starts is when his coffin is recovered. Oh, okay. That's where his book starts.

Okay. That seems like a good place for it to start with... Oh, boy, he's probably real pissed when he wakes up. Part of the reason I think he was as insane as he was on Seguessa. Oh, yeah, definitely. Because he was drifting around for, I think, a couple, was it a couple centuries? It was a bit. It was a bit post. Damn.

Yeah. Yeah, I imagine that once he got out of that pot, he was just a big old batch of crazy. Even by his standards, he was probably just totally gone. Yeah. Totally gone. It was found by like miners and stuff. And he immediately just, he immediately did his usual night haunted thing and skulked around the ship murdering people. Of course.

Of course he did. Jeez. It's very good. It's very good. A very good, very good book. I liked it a lot. But, you know, there's sanguineous. You know, there's a little avenging angel feel you can kind of get.

Oh, definitely. Yeah. And that feeling of like yin and yang, the dark deep, the bad future and the good future. Oh, yeah. Once he's only the bad. Once he's only the good. Yeah. The angle and the devil.

Yep. One is, one is hiding in the, in the darkness of, of, of, of, of, of Masromo and the other is just bathed in light and angel wings, yeah. So now we go to the siege of terror. And there's a million

uber badass moments of fucking Singuineas here. The Imperial Fists, the White Scars, and the Blade Angels with the three major defensive people. There's that piece of artwork Shai Posa that's like

the greatest goddamn artwork of Senguinius ever made. Wow, that is really awesome. Holy shit. It is so cool. It is so cool. He looks like such a baller. Yes, he does.

Holy shit, that's so cool. As you can tell, there's all the world leaders among sons of Horace there fighting him. But the Siege of Terror in its own right has the three of them major legions defending. Sanguidius is credited in flying high above the sky and dueling a horrific demonic monstrosity. as the blood angels held choke points

and areas just covered in slaughter. The big, he destroyed like a warlord titan which, ow, like, Angron got stepped on by a war hound, the small one. And he just sort of like a warlord, which is fucking insane. He does a million goddamn things, but the big one is the battle for eternity gate

where he re-fought the same, Bloodthirster, Ka Bonda, from before. Yeah, and he, he beats him this time, right? He kills it, although he, he doesn't come out of it unscathed, right? Like, he kills it, but he takes a little bit of, he takes a little damage, right? Yes, he gets fucked up pretty bad, honestly. Yeah. That's why he has such a hard time with Horace, right?

And why Horace possibly kills him or made it easier on Horace, because he was so wrecked from the bloodthirster? That's part of the reason why he lost to Horace. He was probably going to lose the horse anyway because Horace is like juiced on chaos roids. Um, but it would have been much more of a fight. Yeah.

However, the, uh, the main, the way he kills him is absolutely nutty. Um, he gets his ass pretty, pretty beat by the demon for a bad period of time. Uh, but instead, what actually ends up is,

uh, where is it? Uh, let's see. Here it is. He was able to react extremely quick. Grab his whip and he flashed in the air with his wings and caught the tip of the whip and wrapped it around the bloodthirster's throat, dragging it down to the floor. Oh.

Which the vapor of the fucking corn whip around his neck had him just like screaming. But then he pulled it real, the cables real tight. Give it a tug until his screaming became. him frenzy little barks. When he tried to break, he tried to break free swatting at Sanguinius with his bat-like wings. But instead,

the primar, the primarque, Sanguinius, grabbed one of the wings and fucking with this free hand ripped it off. Oh! Just... That's a badass.

Like the fucking bicep Angron wing just tore it. Oh. And warp fire digushed from it because it's like warp fire instead of blood. Yeah. Screamed loud enough to shake the walls. And with the whip still around his neck,

he dragged him to the pit, the demonic pit in the middle of the chamber and says, if you truly do hail from the realm that men once called hell, when you return there, tell your kindred it was Sanguonius who threw you back. And he chucked him into the fucking portal. Oh, what a badass moment.

Holy shit. It's pretty, it's pretty baller. Oh my God, that's so, what a Chad. There's also a moment when he just like, Kool-Aid mans through a stained glass window of roses and just fucking yeas his spear and shish kebobbs a greater demon. Oh, hell, yeah. It's the most over-the-top bullshit,

but it's so fun that I can't help but love it. I would love to see like an action movie surrounding like sanguineas, a time on like the siege of Terra with all these badass moments oh that's so cool it is it's very all the stuff he does like the fight with the demon Kavanda's insane and him

dealing with the other one oh shit that's the new mini shy I didn't know that was there he is that's that's the demon that's Kabanda there he there he is right there you see his whip behind him and the axe oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I didn't actually know

they made a mini four I didn't know that was his mini. I thought that it was just another greater demon. I had no idea that was him. Notice the dead blood angel when he used his foot. That's true. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, that's the guy. There's the wing that he ripped off and stuff. Yep. With one hand.

Freed hands. Jesus. Shai says, did you mention that sanguinius caused Angron's head to explode? Explode. I remember him thinking about Senguinius and making his nails soothe. I don't remember, oh dear

Um Though weaked with this fight with Cabanda Sanguinius nonetheless next face is demonic brother Angrom After a climactic airborne battle Angron impaled Sanguinius upon his black blame However Sanguinius used the opportunity to rip out Angron's butcher's nails Causing the demons Primark's head to explode

With Angron banished into the warp The Worldies lost whatever sanity they had and began To cut down their own allies I didn't read it but wait what the fuck I never heard about this Wait, so not only did Sanguinius fight Cabanda, Bloodthurster. After that, he fought Angron, got impaled on his blade, somehow managed to rip out butcher's nails, and then he went and fought? Horace?

Yeah, and then he fucking, oh, it's a book released, oh, sorry, it's a book released from last month in September. Wow. Wow. So he fights Cabonda is massively weakened, gets impaled, fights Angram, fucking just rips his nails out, and then Angron's like,

ah! And then emoji dying scream. Yeah, and the world eaters just start killing everything. Which is very accurate. Still goes and gives Horace a bit of a fight. Wow. That's shocking.

That is, by the book, Eggers of Eternity, by Aaron Dembsky Bowden. guess we got to read it now. It's by my man. My man's. I guess at some point we will have to read that.

Yep. Though I'm always, there's a reason why Aaron Dembski about it writes chaos the best because he's bald and, you know, chaos. Ah, yes, of course. Naturally, naturally, you know. Of course, of course. I had no idea. That's actually, I would, God damn it, I would love, like a stick figure thing

of just like him pulling out a single strain of dreadlocks and Angrod just emoji screamed death. Oh! This goes into the war. That's so funny. That's a pretty hefty weakness. I gotta say the butcher's nails. Just rip them out.

Yeah, I guess. I mean, well, how many people can get close enough to Angron to actually rip them out, though? How many people can get close enough to Angron? That also true. Like, by the time you get that close, chances are Angron's already ripped you to shreds or is ripping you to shreds

and, you know. Damn, Sanguinius, that's a, that's a rough day at the office for him. Yeah. Yeah, you got to have that gorilla grip strength. That's, yeah. But after this, we, we know how it goes. We do. We know the fate that befalls, sanguinius.

He teleports up. He tries to deal with Horace. We can him give time for the emperor to get to him. But between the chaos roids and the, weakening of his body and Horace's attempt to make it one of the most painful deaths he can create because he knows the psychic backlash it'll cause his sons because he knows of the red thirst and he knows of the black rage. It's the reason he makes Sanguidius's death excruciating, which backfires a bit because then all of his sons just start going mad and then murder

everyone else on the planet. Because they just lose their minds. That's not so good for the Yeah, not so good for the chaos space marines that are fighting the blood angels at the time. Yo, among us! That's very suss. That's extremely suss. Sous. Suss. Senguinius certainly did not vent.

He was not the imposter. Okay, but it was anguishing. He caused enough anguish to sanguinius to make just the black rage go crazy with the psychic feedback to the blood angels. He wanted to make it real bad, which one might say, say is part of the reason why the blood angels visualize themselves at the flagship so often

as part of that reason. Yeah. Because they have like that. Which, you know, it really reminds me of Uzoss's corn corruption, seeing themselves in a different area when they're murdering people. Oh, yeah. There's enough similarities of the blood angels and corn as there is, but it's just getting added more and more as time goes on.

Mm-hmm. Damn. So, and it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. It is indeed a thing. But anyhow, the, the whole, the whole fight and the major, the major thing, death by Horace.

I would love to read the actual major book for it because it's such a, such a, oh yeah, it's such an iconic moment. Iconic, okay, yeah. Yeah, definitely an iconic moment. And I would like to. The iconic painting and everything. And yep. Yep.

It's the major thing, but Sangu, Zinguinius's death at the hands of Horace is the major, like the final fall, kind of very much like him willingly going to his death to protect his father. Yep, because he wants that future to come true, right? Yeah, because he wants the one where the emperor lives, which I don't think he realized what the word lived meant. Yeah, had he known more specifics, he might have tried a different option, because, yeah, the emperor does survive, air quotes. You can't see them, I'm doing them, but quality of life isn't great.

And then, what is it, a thousand psychers a day need to be sacrificed to keep him, quote, unquote, alive. Yeah, which is also humorous because they even try to make a conclave of psychers to help with the librarians, him, the con, etc. Yeah, so yeah, maybe if he had, maybe if his foresight had a little more. more detail. I wonder if Sanguinius would have you know, maybe try something else. Maybe not flown to his death.

Yeah. It's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing.

So, along with that, in the passing of Sanguinius, of course, his blood angels guys go ballistic and start making all the traitors retreat from from Terra as they just fucking murder them. The black rage gets worse from it,

that whole kind of shtick. Sanguineus's body has been recovered. It was taken back and is now deeply entombed in a vast tomb beneath the Blood Angels main chapel on ball. The Doors' tomb of his tomb were taught with massive angelic effigies to honor their prime arc. Of course.

Of course. If anyone deserves this big elaborate at tomb, it's definitely sanguineous. Damn. But the last excerpt I wanted to read was this. It was

it was him and Sanguinius, Horace, that is. He was dressed in a simple white robe. Class of the waist with a girdle of gold lynx. He was eating fruit

from a bowl. Located and Axeman stood up quickly. Sit down, Sanguania said, my brother's in the mood to open his hearts. You better hear the truth.

I don't believe Horace began. Zanguinius sco. one of the small red fruits from the bowl and threw it at Horace. Tell them the rest. Is that Horace caught the throne fruit, gazed at it and bit into it. He just throws fruit at him. He just pelts him with fruit.

I like that. I like that. Little cute thing to remiss on before he dies to him. But that's the long and short of Sanguineas. I think he certainly got that. he reminds me of like a group friend that everyone likes the group friend no one dislikes him whatsoever

he's he's got his own demons and he's got his own struggles within but he still does his best like he's at the party he's having a drink everyone talks to him or it's like the guy who just had a bad breakup or found out his girl was cheating on him or something and he's there with his friends

and he's still got that good mood and people like kind of clasms on the shoulder they ask how you're doing and he kind of responds quietly with like I'm doing all right and you can kind of see from his eyes that he's trying to keep a good mood that feels like sanguineus

everyone likes him everyone's really sad about what happened to him but he still tries to keep himself in good spirits despite all the pain damn shit got real shit got real man shit got real damn

that's the best way I can describe it. Okay. It works. That works. We'll talk more about the blood angels in general come next episode. We'll talk about some of their people, Mr. Commander Dante, Mephistan, Asteroth, and a few of their exciting, exciting boys and girls.

Hell yeah. Well, actually, I guess it would only be boys because space marines and because women are, because the emperor has decreed that women are icky. Icky. I'm excited about blood angels, though. They're cool. They are cool Sanguinius

I thought he would be perfect Amazing boy But no He's a That kind of is reserved for Horace I think he's the The got the adventging angel thing But he's got like his little flaw

His secret he's keeping Keeping down Yep he's keeping that secret He's you know Yeah Yeah I guess Horace was the perfect son That betrayed And Sanguinius is

You know he's mostly best boy But he's got a little bit of a deep dark secret He's the person Perfect son in theory. In theory, yeah. In theory. All right. Shai says Sanguinius didn't open with fighting with horse in the ship too.

He tried to talk sense into him. Oh yeah, he was just talking to him. Oh, yeah. Talking to Horace at that point would get you nowhere, no matter who you were, right? There's just no chance of getting through. No, he's fucking insane. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.

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