Adeptus Ridiculous - Sevatar: We were murderers first, last and always | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousJago Sevatarion, known also as Sevatar, "the Condemned," and the "Prince of Crows," was the first captain of the Night Lords Legion and commander of the Atramentar, the elite Terminators of the VIIIth Legion's formidable 1st Company during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy eras of the late 30th and early 31st Millennia.He was also an officer of the Kyroptera, the most trusted advisors and confidants of Primarch Konrad Curze within the Night Lords Legion. A native of Nostramo, Sevatar served as equerry to the Night Haunter and was one of the most lethal warriors in the Space Marine Legions of old.Sevatarion's name and skill were as well known as other luminaries of that era, including Ezekyle Abaddon of the Sons of Horus, Corswain of the Dark Angels, Chapter Master Raldoron of the Blood Angels or Lord Commander Eidolon of the Emperor's Children. Support the show

to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamanty's. His name is Bricky. You know why you're here. But before we get into that, if you enjoy today's episode and maybe you want to support the podcast, head over to patreon.com slash adeptus Ridiculous, where you can get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen. $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in crispy, digital HD format.

Ooh, it's so good. Patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. Now Bricky will tell you things. Hey, hey, guess what? You can go ahead and snag yourself some merchandise at Orchid8.com. Check it out in the description. Lots of cool ad work stuff. Get some little guy things, get some hoodies, get some all of that great thing.

There is more there than you would expect. So hell, yeah, check it out. Good stuff. I need to stock up on all of those great things. I need to stock up on item listed below. Please, I need to restock on item listed below for 3999 specifically. I don't know if we have anything for specifically that, but it seemed like... I mean, the posters are 40 bucks, so close enough.

Yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. And they're good posters. They make the wab, wub, wub, on that game. Yeah, you read my description. I did. I read that a long time ago and I was like, that is the greatest thing ever. It's on quality paper that makes that up, wub, wub, wub, wub, wub, wubs. Yeah, because when you hold like big poster paper and you shake it, it goes like, whir, and you're like, ah, that's the good paper.

Yeah, the artificial thunderstorm sound, yeah. All right. D.K. Yes, sir. It's a, it's a time for an episode. I've got two quotes for you. Two? Yes.

Neither of the, oh, well, okay. Oh, hey, hold on, whiny. I'm sorry. I'm not winding. I'm not winding. I don't know. Do you need some cheese with your wine? I mean, it's been a long time since I've had a good

Chartchutory board, actually. Shark Coochee board. Shark Coochee. It's been a long time since I've had any of that either. Not the shark part, the other part. Well, I did watch the lighthouse recently, and then fish vagina is certainly a... Ah, yes indeed. Yes, indeed.

I watched that once, and I was like, you know what, that's good enough. I don't need to watch this again. I don't need to watch another robber eggers, uh, video. movie again. Actually, that's not true. He's coming out with the Noseferatu movies, so we'll see how it goes. Actually, that could be real good in the black and white style.

I like that idea. Anyway, so, I have two quotes for you. You can guess either. Both will work. All right, are you ready for the first one? It's a sister's codex episode.

He's wrong. Damn it! individual who is counting how many times D.K. is wrong. Tab that doesn't count. That was a joke. That was a joke. It just came out, didn't it? He tripped.

And it's like really good, right? And hurt himself on the way towards the starting line. Yeah. Any, any anime fans out there, I just fell down the stairs with an umbrella in my hands. I don't understand that. But, all right, here's quote, here's quote one. Curse you, bail. Did you finally get to it?

Curse you, Bell! By hill dragon! I hear by vow that you will rue this day. Behold a true Drake warrior and I, Egon, your fears made flesh. That dude put his soul into that. Oh my God, it's my favorite part. It's so funny. So, okay.

Anyway, go ahead. Sorry, I was going to be the whole bit, but go ahead, go ahead. All right. Death to the false emperor. Wow, death to the false emperor, huh? Mm-hmm. That's your quote. So are we just doing a chaos space marine episode?

I mean, you're in the ballpark. Well, no kids. But death to the false emperor, isn't that like any of them? Who was the first man to say death to the false emperor? I've told you, so you can't complain. Oh, shoot. Isn't it a night lord? He's getting closer.

Oh, no. Oh, he doesn't remember the name. It starts with an S. It's like, shit. And he's like the best and he's like their best dualist. Damn. You know, I mean, you had to do that like funny one in the beginning and automatically lose this one because you're like so far you're correct across the board, but you don't remember the name. Oh, shit.

It's like surfaxer. Ah. It's too bad. Okay. It's going to hurt when you. It's going to. It's gonna hurt. It's, uh, it's Savitar. Sevatar. I was so close. You were really close. I, I was like, septerific.

Damn it. I knew everything that he did. And I knew he was in the night lord. So, okay, all right. I feel like that's a ballpark. I feel like that's maybe not me getting it, but that's like a ballpark. I had to, I had to give you a bit more help than I think I should have needed to, but you were certainly making your way. Remember earlier Walking fast Remember earlier How we I was saying

That we are going to Do a bit more Of the first captains And then we did Typhus the stinky man Oh Is that what we're doing today With the little

Sevatar Yeah Sevatar is the first captain Of the night lords So he is You know We did all the primarks So now we do

The people That are right Under the Primax And in some cases We're sometimes Even more well, not more important than Primarks, but I have a lot more going on, I guess. Yeah.

So we got Sabatar because, like, you know, he's a Knight Lord and, you know, me. Oh, yeah, I was going to say, you were really looking forward to this one, weren't you? I like this one. I do. Shocking. Isn't he like you, I don't know if he's your favorite night lord, but, you know, I've heard you mention a certain affinity for Savitar in the past. It's hard to dislike Savatar. He's kind of a baller.

So we'll start with the beginning. So I've heard his name pronounced in two ways. Some people pronounce it with a J. Some people pronounce it with like a Y. But it's J-A-G-O. So it's either J-G-O or Yago. Depends on exactly how you want to call it. But his name, I'm just going to call him J-G-O because it's easier.

J-G-O-Sav-Vat-Tarion is his full name. He's also known as Savitar or the Prince of Crows because we're nightlords. Of course, of course. Very, very cool, very edgy name. Sure, sure. Also, in that artwork, it looks like he's got like a pseudo, like skeletal like wing on his shoulder that has flesh on it. Yeah, I'm sure he flayed some other creature and slap it to his shoulder pad. Or those could be human bones and he was just like, wouldn't it be funny if I just, you know, made it look like bird wings?

Speaking of bird It's Yago Yago From Latin From Aladdin Yeah As a kid he was my favorite The angry bird

Yeah Yeah yeah I had sand in places I didn't even know I had Was it Gilbert Godfrey who voiced him Yeah Yeah it's true really Yeah Gilbert Godfrey voiced Yago

Sure I don't remember much of the original Aladdin because I haven't seen it in forever That's hilarious Anyway, all you know, okay, well now at this point, we should just call him Yago because now you got my head all twisted. Oh yeah, he's Iago. He's for sure Yago. Yep. All right, all right. Yago is a badass portrait. Oh my God. His coal portrait looks so good. What the hell? Yeah, he's a bit of a, he's a bit of a stern gentleman. But he also has a bit more of a personality comparatively because, you know, space marines can get a little dull.

and so what's a good way to give him more personality? Make them assholes but in a fun way Fair enough, sure Sure, sure. Make him kill an Eldar child Give him a little class Yeah, give him a little clout Oh, he's a clout chaser, is he?

Uh-oh, not quite. Anyway, so, Yago Savatarian Savitar Captain of the Atrementar First person ever to say Death to the False Emperor first captain of the Knight Lord's Legion, shared among the names of

Typhus, Lord Commander Idleon, and most importantly, Ezekiel Abadon. The old Isichai. All of those main, Aramon, I think is also one of them. Yeah, I think Armin's first captain.

I don't know. It doesn't matter. Important people. Sure, sure. So, good old Yago was born in the Stromo quintus, the city's edge in the fifth hive city on Nostromo. So Nostromo often had the name of the planet was Nostromo.

There were five giant hive cities on it. The stramo prime. And then secondus, Tertius, Cortus, and Quintus. And then if you go far enough, you can get the Septimus. Okay. Yeah, and then Octavia. Ha, ha, ha. I know.

I get it. I read the books. I got it. I got it. I know you didn't. I laughed, but I got it. Didn't laugh at it, but I got it. I'm not laughing, but I get it. Yep, good old meat.

Get that meat wad spinning on the screen. Although, I guess I shouldn't say meat spin. Oh, God. Next to each other that close. Anyway, go ahead. So he was born and raised about a century before the horse heresy began. And just to get this out of the way right now, Sevatar is a psycher.

Um, Separatur utilizes his psychic powers almost never. Uh, but as a kid, he, but he has them. Yeah, well, it was kind of like, um, it's kind of like Typhus where he really kind of kept him under wraps. He didn't really know because the, the galaxy wasn't really keen on the whole psycher thing as often, especially in like the underdrags of, uh, of giant hive cities and that kind of jazz. Sure.

Shai has a legit question. How are night lords with psychers aside from vision stuff they get from curs? Do they use them? As far as I know, there were psychers in the night lord's legion because of the whole council of Nike. It's actually a little part after the council of Nike where Savatar and another chief librarian, I think, get into a kerfuffle. And he gets blasted by the librarian into like a command throne.

But for the most part, I think they're just like, they use psychers as often as like any other. religion. I know in the current 40K they have, they have psykers. A major character and villain of the Knight Lord's books is Rubin. And Rubin is a chaos sorcerer that was a cyker in the Horace

so I think it's like they're like a round, just kind of like ultramarines, like they're just around. They're not really like emphasized. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't expect the night lords to care much about psychers in like, I mean

as so much as anybody in the 40K universe cares about them, right? Like, they might not be fans of them, but for a Nightlord, it's like, oh, well, it's a, it's a means to an end. Like, can you torture people with those crazy, funky abilities you got there? Yeah, cool.

Like, a little bit. I didn't think they'd, yeah, I didn't think they'd really cared that much, right? Everything is a tool. And I mean, the interesting thing is that the visions from curs is not even a psycher thing. It's a, it's a gene seed thing, because main character of the Night Lord books,

Talos has the visions, but he's not a psycher. He's just a guy. Yeah, and that's what makes him so special. I have the vision. Yeah, it's what makes him the prophet.

But anywho, so he had psychic powers, but the psychic powers were always mostly under wraps. And for the most part, Sevatar growing up, he was just kind of a prick. I'll be totally honest.

Growing up on Estromo, like, that's kind of just the default, right? You kind of have to be a prick if you want to survive, right? That's a, yeah, you're, most people, that's the idea is like you're either born with the, what's the, what's like the, the really, like, rich person, silver spoon. You're either born with a silver spoon or you're born with a knife. Because the, uh, silver spoon or silver knife, take your pick. Yeah, because the difference between, you know, you're the ruling class and the slaves and serfs were so much,

more massive. And as we know, the farther you go down in a hive city, the more dangerous it gets. Yep. Yep. But Sepatar was just really arrogant. He didn't really get the point of view of a lot of other people often, but he was also almost never wrong with his decisions, which is what made him kind of an arrogant asshole. But he was very rarely ever wrong because he had these little innate psychic abilities and he just kind of always knew, he always knew right. Right.

right? So he is literally the embodiment of it ain't bragging if you back it up. A little bit, but he's also definitely bragging. Well, actually, actually, no, he's not really bragging much. He, he, it's not really like a space wolf for like an ultramarine where they, they really like to sing their own personal deeds. Not as much, at least. He's just like, yeah, I'm right. Eat shit. Typical night lord. Fair enough. So he grew up during the rise of the Knight Haunter on.

Nostromo, where Kurs would spend his time in the ducks and in the rats, and with the rats, I guess, and skinning and eating people, and eventually slowly created a situation where there was basically no crime on Nostrombo at all, because anyone who ever did anything would be flayed alive on television like a Twitch streamer and broadcast to the entire planet's populace. Well, I was going to say there are other platforms. that would actually broadcast that, Twitch wouldn't actually broadcast that. To be fair.

No, but it's funny thinking that like, Hey, hey, thanks for the gift. For every 10 gifted subs, I'll slice another inch off this guy. Yeah, if we get a thousand gifted subs, I'll get another criminal to flay on stream. He would be a kick streamer. That's true. He would definitely be a kick streamer.

Oh, a million percent. And I don't. And then he would have to gamble. Yeah, yeah, it would Yeah Anyway, so Savatar grew up During this time frame And he went through all of the hallmarks

Of the Night Haunters Rise Where, yeah, it was all gang violence And terrible murder and death And then things got really, really efficient Things got better And eventually the Emperor showed up And brought the Taronborn Knight Lords To the planet,

Grabbed Kerr's And raised a bunch of people To become Space Marines and Savatar was one of these people who were brought up into the Eighth Legion, because he was proved to be, quote, extremely gifted and supremely ruthless, as well as dishonorable in combat. And for a Knight Lord, that is the most important trait. It is.

Got to be dishonorable in combat. You can't fight fair. Come on. We have us, yeah, the fighting fair is like against. their entire code. The whole point is to pray on the week and then don their armor with things that make people more scared of you.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. God, their armor's so cool. God. It is really cool. Some people think it's too busy. I think they're half right. It's just so, like, silly in a way.

Like, the Batwings are really silly. They are, but they just add a nice pop of color. and silly, but I really dig them. There's some goodness to it. There's a lot of fun. There's a lot of good traits to it. There's something at least you'll like, whether it's like the lightning or the skin or something.

But Sevatar, for the most part, kind of suppressed his psychic abilities for a pretty long while. But he was always just very intelligent, often and assumed because of his psychic ability, he was often right about everything. And he, like the night lords, was

Sivetar's a hard person to describe because he is a knight lord through and through he is an Estroman born knight lord He is the worst of the worst He is the worst of the worst But he's also

Like he kind of embodies The weird sick sense of justice That Kerr's tried to upbring A bit more Oh He's still a night lord. He does night lord things. He is

not a good guy. Let's never get that conflated. Well, he is a night lord. He is a night lord. But he has that weird kind of character arc where with time, you know, he was the arrogant Kim and

eventually he has that weird sense of justice where yeah, is he going to like skin people alive? Sure. But God darn it, those people kind of deserved it. Ah, okay. So he's doing despicable acts, but he's doing despicable acts for the, quote, unquote, right reason.

And he's doing it to the quote unquote right people. Right. So very often you'll notice that night lords tend to not much care who they are murdering and flaying. Yes. If we read the Night Lord's trilogy, and very oftentimes they do not care at all. It men, women, children, Zenos, whatever, if you're alive, they, they will skin you. Yes. Right.

And don't get me wrong. Oh, yeah, that's the quote that's like, that's the quote. Oh, wow. Do you want me to read it or? I mean, I think I've read this quote already before, but, um. Okay. Okay. I mean, for the most part, it's hard to describe because it's long, but it's, uh, hey, you know what, go ahead and read it. I talk too much. Okay.

Because the wolves kill cleanly and we do not. They also kill quickly and we have never done that either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ship with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies. down with the admirable delusions of the noble savage. If we were ever ordered to assault another legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment world, slaughter their serfs and slaves, poison their gene seed repositories, and spend the next dozen decades watching them die, slow humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armor until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the emperor needs, is it? The wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes, then the tongue, then the hands,

then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witnesses. The wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last and always. he's a baller I mean yeah he's a baller yeah that does perfectly encapsulate what the night lords have

basically always stood for that is that is the quote for sure yeah and you know I'm not a night lords apologist I like I like many I mean when there it does become an issue

and we see this in Warhammer too often is when you get really enraptured and encapsulated by by the lore and storytelling of certain factions, you might accidentally start to think that they're right. And like you, people will read the Night Lord's trilogy like we have. And some might say, well, you know, Kerr's, he did like have the best compliances with the fewest victims because he skinned them alive and stuff.

And I'm like, okay, buddy, let's not, let's not make some apologies for this. Yeah, let's not twist it. I don't know. This is not an ends justify the mean scenario of mass torture and genocide, right? That's not really, you know. But Sabatar in a lot of ways represents the, the classic space marine captain put in a legion that is not for the classic space marine captain. He is not cowardly at all. He very rarely ever preys upon the week or run away when there's a. a strong foe. He like, he probably does enjoy a little bit of torment.

He's a night lord. He grew up on this drama. But like he is a major duelist with a, with a mostly, I don't want to say clean head, but does not spend the time to really just go hard into the debauchery of the night lords. He's got like that noble Marine thing, but he's like the noble Marine shoved in an un, in noble, Innoble, a legion, whatever the word is. And with an up, yeah, ignoble legion, um, with, uh, an upbringing of like gang violence. Like, make it clear. I'm, I'm not trying to call him like a noble individual, but he's not.

By comparison, he, yeah, he's not like run away, skin some civilians, run away, kill like a couple of kids, run away. Like, it's just not who he's like, you know? He's a lot closer to, like, Sigismind or Corsewain than he is some debased, some debased random night lord. So does that, like, affect him, like, negatively at all, that he is kind of like that, and that he is, like, first in command of a Legion that's just so different from him? Like, again, not saying he's great, but if he's more noble,

and he wants to like fight the fight and let's not be cowardly. Like does that like kind of eat away at him a little bit at all? He doesn't. Yeah, shy makes a good point. He's kind of sticking to the original version of the night lords where it's like a sense of like cruel justice. We do these things to the traitors because there needs to be an example made out of them.

Because the human race can only be cold through. fear, which as we know in history is not true. But it's all we really, that all Kerr's ever knew. So he's a, you know, flawed individual. Oh, okay. So, so he, he's not, he's not one of those guys that's just kind of like, oh, yeah, you know what? I haven't skinned someone in a while.

Let me grab random Joe Schmo and just ha ha ha ha, let's make some deli meat. Like he actually wants there to be like a purpose and like, oh yeah, this person needs to be tortured because they are. you know, an absolute degenerate and they're a murderer or something. Like he's not just going to be like, oh yeah, I just kind of love the smell of blood. So there's a great story. So do you remember when Kurds played a three like year,

month, whatever gang of among us on the lion's ship? Yeah. So it wasn't just Kurz. He teleported onto the ship with Savitar and the Atramentar. Savitar had his psychic power unleashed in this point, and got knocked out and captured him. And his psychic mental, whatever, was kind of eating away at his body and was going to kill him.

And one of the astrophaths for the dark angels on the ship took a bit of a kindness to him and helped him sue the psychic powers and keep him from killing himself accidentally in a way, you know? Okay, okay. This really nice astrophath lady, and they kind of chatted a little bit. psychically, I assume, when he was in the cell for the Dark Angels. Eventually, the master of the choir, you know, the master of the astrophatic choir,

found out that she did this and broke her spine. And I think, I believe, permanently paralyzed her in that way for helping a traitor. A knight lord, sure. A night lord. So during the prison transfer, a prisoner transfer, Savatar escaped, found the choir guy and then strangled him to death

very slowly doing this whole like, I am justice incarnate, I am vengeance, I am retribution, and I surrender. And after he murdered this man, he's put his hands up because the dark angels were back. And he's like, I've done my job.

Put me back in the cell. I'm chilling. Don't worry about it. You know, all things considered there are worse ways to go when a night lord with a vengeful spirit gets a hold of you. Like, granted, it was not pleasant, but like, out of all the things a night lord could do to you,

a slow strangling, not the worst thing that could happen after you broke his friends back and paralyzed her permanently. I mean, he took a pretty... Okay, so... Again, I'm not saying it's... I'm not saying that's...

oh, what an easy way to go. Like, that still sucks. And I'm sure he still suffered to his end. But I'm just saying, like, with the way night lords are, it could have been a lot worse. Right? Okay. Yes. You are correct.

But Savitar also didn't have a lot of time. So he was making them... Oh, that's true. He was getting the highest, the highest DPS of torture per minute he could hit. That's true. It's not like he had a bunch of... of tools with him. It's not like he could take him back to his flaying chambers or something like Talos has. That's true. He's just on the spot. That's probably the best he could do and just really

savor it, right? What's hard to determine and talk about with Savatar is that it's hard to like put him in a character archetype box because the guy is a very complex. And because he's complex, it's like, if I called him noble, I'd be wrong, but he's more noble than the other night Lords. If I call them just like a senseless murderer, I'd be wrong, but it's not like he hasn't done a little bit of senseless murder. It's hard to probably put it together. There is one really... He is dynamic. There was really good passage between him and Kerr's, which I thought was really fun, because Savitard often gives Conrad Kers a lot of shit.

Yeah, I would imagine Kurs does get a lot of shit. And I am sure that Savatar is the only one with the balls to do it, because that's Kurs. So yeah, I could see that. So Savitar was kind of giving Kurs a bit of shit for how he handled everything. So he's kind of gesturing to the streets of Nistramma Quintis and he's like, where's the nobility in, in any of this. You claim a savage nobility, father, but this is far more savage than noble. It says, curses, his pale lips peel back from his filed teeth. There was no other way. No, Savatar answered his father's snarl with a grin. What other ways did you try?

Answer me, father. What politics of peace did you teach? What scientific and social illumination did you bring to this society. In your quest for a human utopia, what other ways did you try beyond eating the flesh of stray dogs and skinning people alive? Damn. Got him. Curse says it was the only way again with punctuating each word. The Savitar laughed again.

The only way to do what? The only way to bring a population to heal? How then did the other Primarks manage it? How has world upon world managed it? with resorting to butchering children and broadcasting their screams across the planetary Voxnet. Damn. I mean, he's got a point. Like, it's he pretty, well, I mean, that was how he was raised, right?

Because Nistramo's been shit. But yeah, I mean, that's kind of what his default was. He didn't really try anything else. The only thing Kurs knows, because it's the only thing Kurs ever learned. And so, and so, yeah. Even through all of this, he stays like fiercely loyal to Kurz because it's still his jean sire and all of that kind of stuff. Damn. So Savatar's a badass.

Like, yeah, I mean. He's not just like, oh, look how cool I am. He's like, he's also fiercely loyal. But if he sees that old Jean Papa is like, you know, not right, he'll, he'll still speak up. Like, that's pretty cool, actually. When Kurz went to Nostromo to blow it to bits to like actually exterminatus his own home planet and Savatar's home planet, certain ships would not fire upon Nostromo and they refused to do so because like it's their home. And whenever that happens, Savitar and his terminators would teleport to their ship and say get doing it or else you're a traitor and you know what we do with those people. And I'm sure they agree me, yeah, okay, fire, fire, yep, yep, mm-hmm.

Well, they may just kill them all, but yeah. They might have, but yeah, damn, that is, that is some fierce loyalty. Like, even if you don't agree with them, just being like, oh, yeah, that's, we follow him, we do it. I might not want to see the planet destroyed, but hey, Kerr said we got to do it. So, you know, damn. Here we are. You want Sabatars your first captain. Like, that's kind of the guy.

I mean, very few people. Like, I mean, he has a, every first captain was fiercely loyal, mostly, to their primark. I mean, it's a primark space marine dynamic. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But Sabatar is really like,

it's interesting to see how much shit he gives curs and simultaneously, one, lives, and two, you know, still remains so damn loyal. If you'd like to, you can read the quote that shy posted. Oh, okay. He describes his own character in this quote, because we are brothers, we've seen Primarks die

to blade and fire, and we've seen our action set the galaxy aflame. We've betrayed others and been betrayed in kind. We're bleeding for an uncertain future, fighting a war for the lies our lords tell us. What do we have left,

if not blood's loyalty? I am here because you are here, because we are brothers. Ooh, okay. Okay. It's a pretty good quote. It's some interesting like kind of back and forth. And it also adds the fact that Seve is kind of funny in a weird way.

How so? Like he's just, he's just kind of a shitter. He's this doubt. Okay. So I'm not sure like how to describe this. When I think of media, because obviously the Nightlord books were voiced by Andrew Wincott, who does Raphael, in Baldur's Gate 3, Devil Guy. Oh, oh, that's hit. Oh, and he sings that great song, too?

Yeah, yeah, that's him. Oh, let's go. But he very much gave the night lords kind of like a Slavic, Russianish accent. when he was doing the books. And whether because of him doing that or because of Aaron Dembski-Bowden's writing or whatever reason, the faction has kind of taken that direction a bit lately.

They're a little bit more in that style with like a lot of their, when people like voice them in books, they kind of put on that similar accent. It's kind of moved that way. And I've always assumed, whatever I've like seen films or something that is more in that kind of like

Eastern European kind of vibe type thing, Russian-tend-a-vive. The humor is always very dry, like kind of like gallows humor. Oh, yeah, yeah. Very dark humor. Just a little grim, you know, like it's not particularly like super slapsticky, ha-ha.

It's very like, at least from what I've seen, you know, we can, I'm more than welcome to be corrected on that. But it's kind of been like the general feeling to a lot of it. Okay. But so, like, someone was pointing to his cell where he used, like, acidic spit to make a giant hole or whatever for it. And they, like, they kind of pointed to him. And he's like, ugh, rats, big ones. Yeah, okay.

Kind of stupid things like that. There's one where he's like, he's on the Voxy. He's like, I'll be there in seven minutes, eight if there's resistance, nine if the resistance is carrying bolter. Okay, okay. So he's got a little, he's a little quirky. I like that. He's got some, he's got some, he's got some panache to him. He's willing to be a little, a little sarcastic, a little goofy, add a little levity to things. Okay. Um, uh, Kerr says, I lead a legion of foul-hearted wretches with no sense of loyalty to me or to each other. And he says, and yet I am so very popular among my brothers. The mystery of it all fascinates me. It's pretty good. That is, that is pretty good. And it's, it's just some, like, Tovac says, you're getting soft, Sev.

I have no idea what you mean. I have always been the very soul of kindness. For a night lord to say that is just great. It's just stuff like that. There was a part of me that was like, oh, man, whether they, like, play tic-tac-toe on some poor dude's corpse is they just kind of like, you know, oh, ow, and you know, but I like, I like that a lot better. I like, I like his wit a lot better. It's like, Trez says, oh, and who might that have been?

I don't recall his name. I was given to understand all warriors, the legios of the startis were gifted with idetic recall. We are. I just never asked him his name. I was rather preoccupied skinning him alive at the time. Wow. That's, there's, yeah, that's a little gallows humor, but that's kind of hilarious gallows humor.

He's like, I don't know, why would I ask him his name? I was too busy playing him alive and torturing him. Okay, I like that one. That's the best one, by far. Savatar says, so three of the seven are dead and the primark is wounded. Var Jahan, the primark is dying. We lead the Legion now. We'll see.

Either way, the future is grim. This won't do it all. Of the seven, you three are the ones I like least. It's just kind of like little goofy bits, you know? He's just kind of a little, a little sass man. I like you, Sevatar. You've got some, you've got some Hutzpah. I like that.

I like Savatar quite a bit more now. Yeah, so besides that, yeah, I think it's a good time to talk about the heresy. So obviously he went where the Knight Haunter went. Clearly, you had lots of, you didn't need much for the night lords to turn Schrader. Lorgar basically came to them with the idea that Horace will be the new emperor and their, were like, the emperor is just being kind of an ass to us because he's telling us that we're not allowed to do the thing he told us we should be doing. So why not? Yeah, we'll, we'll join your thing. There wasn't a whole lot of need for changes. Yeah, what's the, uh, the meme picture

that was making the rounds where, uh, Curz was just like, everyone, we've turned traitor. We're not the good guys anymore. And everybody in the background's like, we were, we were, we were good. Yeah, we were the good guys. What? What? We were doing this for a good reason? We're, we were. What? Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of that great stuff. Yeah, just a little push. Really, though, they just need a tintsy tiny little push. Just the stray gust of wind came by and they were like, yeah, Trader, that sounds great. So, obvious, so before the Isvon 5, well, I just got some fun stuff before that.

So, you know, Savatar before they turned Trader, had a little bit of dialogue and stuff with a few other members. a very famous scene is him fighting Sigismund which is the first captain of the Imperial Fists who is up there I'm not going to say

which person was the best duelist of all the first captains because that's kind of like Warhammer player nerd fight I mean I don't get me wrong I'm plenty nerd but who's the best

sword battle between these first captains it's whatever man but Sigismins is up there Corsewayne, Sev, etc. Sigismet had never lost a duel before and him and Savatar did a 30-hour fight.

And after the 30-hour fight, Sev kind of said, screw it, and then cheated and headbutted him to win the duel. Hey, he won. Yeah, but he cheated. Yeah, but he's a night lord. What did Sigismund really expect? Right? It's like, I'm, like, you got to know you're fighting a night lord.

Yeah, maybe, maybe it's Savitar. Maybe he's a little more honorable. Maybe he's a great duelist, but he's a night lord. Surely you got to expect at some point he's going to do a little, a little bit of the old fucky-wucky, right? That's kind of the joke. It's like, uh, Sigismind finally lost a duel, so to speak. Um, but he's kind of giggled about it.

And he's like, that's hilarious. What a time. And he kind of goes back and it hangs out with his buddies. And it's just like, ah, there I go. There's my loss. It had to happen eventually. and meanwhile Sev is just kind of brooding

because he's just like he he's a bit of a lonely guy he doesn't really he doesn't have that like rapport with his brothers and so you know he sees that kind of thing

he's like oh man I would have figured he would have been pretty well liked among the night lords he is but he's but you know they're not necessarily like super buddy buddy

I mean shit man you read the night you read the night lord books I was going to say when you think about Yeah, I guess nightlords aren't exactly that Oh, let's go have a beer and hang out and chill after hours, guys It's like, well, no, everybody just wants to backstab each other a little bit Yeah, okay, that's fair, yeah

First Claw kind of hated each other Sort of minus like Talos and Zarl Pretty much, yeah, yeah So Sigisman was just like, oh yeah, it's chill, it's cool And I guess Savitar to some degree would be like, man, I had to cheat to win that. God damn it. I think he just, I think he just kind of wanted to

have like that kind of group those kind of groups of folks. I don't know, I don't know if he was really like, oh man, I had to cheat. I think he's just like doing the cheating because whatever. But that's one of the big things that happened in kind of the past. But Horace heresy arrives, if you remember from the first

heretic novel, Sev is there with the rest of the group. He does his like death of the false emperor before Istvon 5 massacre. Yep. Um, he is down there. He fights the folks, does the usual, helps do the, the horrible betrayal. Lives a, lives a great life.

Air quotes, his best life. Life, yeah. For Elfors Savatar and a chaos space marine and everything. Yeah, it is probably his best life, sure. He was living his best life. Um, the fight afterwards was something called the thramis crusade, which is basically where a horse is like, hey, night lords, go hold back Lionel, John. him for as long as you can because.

Okay. Good luck. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, it started off with them, like, bombing a bunch of small human manufacturing centers because of their night lords. Of course. Of course, sure. And then the two of them fought a bunch of Dark Angels.

They kind of came to a parlay, and they were like, all right, curds and the lion and two bodyguards each, go down and go down and, like, chat it out. or something, you know, because things aren't working great. Yeah, let's have a chat with Conrad Kerr's. I'm sure that goes great. And this is Lionel when he is still at his most intolerant. So this should be great. This should go swimmingly, right?

Oh, it goes about as well as you'd think. Corsewayne asks to Savatar's mom fucked pigs, which was a good start. And then a... A little bit. bit. Then Sevatar had like he had the new sinners red gauntlets on his arms ever

since the drop site massacre. Oh, fair. There's a great little quote there where he asks, he was Taluk talking about the sinners red. It's like these are for either for traitors or fools. And he asks which one are you traitor or fool? He's like,

both. Yeah. That's me. Yep. Mm-hmm. So it turns out talking doesn't go to plan and, um, They start fighting. What a shocking development that it turns into a fight. It's like a contract signing at WWE.

The only way to go is it's going to turn into a fight, sure. It's always so funny. I have to imagine that in a fight between Lionel and Kerr's, Lionel beats the shit out of Curz. At this point in time, anyway. So, okay, Curz is one of those weird folks, right? where very often, like, you might think, oh, well, Lionel Johnson, like, insane duelist. Like, he's the knight, right? But there is often a funny thing that you got to remember.

The dude can see the future, and that makes him really good at fighting. Well, I guess that's true. He does have the future vision, so, yeah. Also, like, this is another thing. None of these Primark fights ever go anywhere anyway. the two of them beat each other up, they get close to death, and then they get pulled away, and things are good again. Right, because you can't have, like, Primarks dying. They're too important to the story.

They're too important to blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, that's fair. That's fair. So it's the classic thing. That being said, I believe Corsohn shanks his sword through Curz's chest, which is pretty baller, to save the lion's life. So Corsewayne W. once again, typical. typical regular regular you know dark angels dub well we'll need to talk about course Wayne one day because the guy is kind of a kind of a chad so him and sigismind are

kind of kind of ballers but anyway they they kind of leave there and eventually regroup the curs sev and the etramentar then go to kill lionel johnson abhor's flagship which leads to the game of among us which leads to the sev getting captured with the whole astropath thing, etc, etc. As we may remember, Kurs is thrown in a stasis pod at the end of this whole thing.

Yep. And by sanguineus and then just like yeated into space. Yep. Which is, didn't do great for his mental. I'm not gonna lie. I would imagine getting

yeated into space for the second time in his life. life probably yeah not not great not great no not great um the rest of the night lords though specifically savatar and the and folks ended up escaping the ship and various other craft and getting out of lionel johnson's place to go fight back in the siege of terra on the final battle of the horace heresy um this is kind of where savatar story ends the thing about sevatar is that he like he is in a lot of the horace heresy books. He's a major character, not a major character, but he's like a side character, a ton of

them. He's always popped around. There's a couple books about him, or minimum one book, but he shows up a ton in other books. He's all over the place and that kind of stuff, with his sass and all of his, all of his good traits. But we actually don't quite know what happened to Sevatar. It's assumed he died during the siege of terror, the final. The final, Battle of the Horace heresy. And he was seceded by someone named Sahal, which you may remember them arguing about

in the books? The name sounds familiar, but I can't remember anything that they specifically did. I can't remember an argument, though. It's like a couple throwaway paragraphs in one of the, I think, the third or the second book. Basically, like Mercutian

and Syrian are arguing about Sahal because he's Terran-born and not in Estromo-born. and the importance of that of like succeeding where Savatar was, but he's a Taronborn night lorm. Right, right. I always remember Uzaz chiming in after that and being like, I like Saul. And you're just like, okay, there. All right, Uzzas, back to bed.

Go back to bed, old man. Adults are talking. Yeah, back to bed. Oh, Uza, poor Uzas. God damn. But Mercutian specifically made a couple of comments saying that he doesn't believe that Sevatar died during the siege of Terra and that the Atramantar wouldn't really serve

any other leader after Sev died. That's why they kind of fractured a bit. But in classic case of 40K stuff, you know, like there's no exact explanation. There's nobody. It's just a question mark. They left it open ended in case.

They were like, well, maybe we should do an updated Sabatar mod. Guess what? He survived the siege of Terra and he's been eating animal blood on some backwater planet trying to survive until all of his brothers found him again or he's been in the warp So right. I remember this specifically because I think this was in the first night lord books is that yeah on the world of a Seguelza The Currus would demand Savitar arrive and then they were like uh dad Savatar died and he's like He's like, what? What do you mean? That was not possible.

That was a part in the first book. I remember that when they were. I do vaguely recall that, yeah. So there's a little bit of that. There's some hints there. Some people like to theorize that Savatar has actually gone loyalist or more renegade because he's probably not too stoked with the direction things have gone. Yeah, especially with the.

night lords and how they aren't really up to par like they used to be. And yeah, I could see him not loyalist, but definitely more gray area in the middle where he doesn't necessarily want to go with either side. There's also a bit more of an interesting statement, which is that Comrade Curris has told Savatar himself that he's seen when he dies. he knows the death of Savatar before, but he refused to tell him where it was and when. So I guess there's maybe an assumption that he still thinks Savatar is alive

because he knows when he's supposed to die, but we've been over this a few times, even though Curse sees the future a lot, he kind of like does things that furthers that future because he doesn't see anything other. Yeah, like he's sort of making his destiny come true. It might not. not be set in stone, but Curz is doing everything in his power to make sure that it happens, right?

But yeah, if he thinks he knows when Savatar dies, then, and if he's like, hey, guys, where's Sevatar? And it's like, oh, he's dead. He's like, uh-huh. Right. Yeah, I know when he's supposed to go. I'll let you believe that, but, yeah. So we genuinely just don't know where Savatar is out.

It would not surprise me if at some point in, God, seven years or something, games workshop furthers the story to the point where they will bring back Savatar as like a named night lord character model. That wouldn't surprise me if they did that. But the question really comes down to, what the hell has he been doing for 10,000 years? Yeah. Like, unless he's, unless he's. like literally just lost in the warp and he's just like I was I was stranded in the warp I didn't know how to get out so I've just been fighting and murdering demons this whole time and torturing

stuff and just trying to find you guys again but like it's been how many years and it's like uh that's a bit of a that's a bit of a stretch it is is a bit of a stretch his model is cool it's an old horacee house hei's resin maybe even even fine cast and I don't love that. I have his model. It's a little stubby because it's an old model compared to the newer ones. But I think as far as old models go, it holds up pretty well. A lot of people run him as like a generic chaos lord and just, you know, leave it there.

I was going to say for an old mini, that looks pretty great, actually. For an old mini, he definitely holds up pretty well. I like his general, this just makes me want to be one. read the night lord books again. Do it. I know, I know. Yeah, there's also the Hello's version. I am assuming since you said people just run him as a Knight Lord's captain, there's no

specific like, sevatar for the tabletop with like specific rules and stuff. You kind of just have to like proxy him in as a captain or something or like as a termy. Yeah, yeah, you proxy him as like just like a chaos lord basically. Right. A chaos lore is basically what a captain is in chaos. Yeah. Okay. It's, um...

That's unfortunate. It is, but I don't know. I really enjoy Savatar as a... I don't know. He's such a, like, complex character. He's awful, but has some nobility. He's, he's terrible and does terrible things, but he has that, like, wicked sense of justice that Kerr's originally liked to have. That's right.

That's right. He has a chain glave called Knights Whisper, which is super fun. Ooh, okay, okay, okay. GWs sometimes their naming schemes are just perfect. I really like this quote here. Curz is like, I laughed when they said it at the sheer absurdity of the idea. They knew exactly when to stop the killing of the weak, the treacherous and the corrupt within their bloodlines.

I wouldn't even know where to begin culling mine, Sev, on any other day, sire, such words might hurt my feelings. That's the funniest part about the Horacee right, is that they had that part where they culled off all of the loyalists from their own legion. And the night lords killed nobody because they didn't have to, because they were all awful. Yep, I mean, all it took was just that little push, and they were all just ready to go. And they've just always been this way. So, yeah.

He has so many funny, funny quotes. What's this one? It's like, I will kill you, Savatar. On my life, I swear it. Cousin, cousin, cousin. I outrank you, do I not? That's first captain, Savatar to you, little angel. Wow.

He's such a shit. He really is such a shitter. I love him. He's great. He is not hurting for awesome, parts. I still need to read Prince of Crows. That's like the, that's like the sevatore book. I'm shocked that you haven't already, actually. Because they're like that, you know. Yeah. I, because I read, I read the Night Lord trilogy, of course. We all did. Yep. Yep. Well,

I read the Conrad Kerr's side eye shy. Yeah, points to shy. I read the nightlord books, or sorry, the Conrad Kerr's book, the Guy Haley Primark book, which is very, very good. And actually is like probably my favorite of the Primark books I've read. No bias. Of course. There's a couple short stories I know of. And then, and then, but like, you know, the omnibus is basically my Bible. So here we are.

Yeah. I figured, I figured you would have, you would have been all over the Prince of Crow's book. I think it's just the fact that after a period of time, I've just read so much 40K that I want to start reading other books. Oh, yeah, you need to sort of separate yourself from it so you don't just get like, you don't want to get like so burnt out on 40K that it's the only thing you're doing in your free time while you're working while you're streaming. It's like, okay, I need a little separation. Like I need to, I need to indulge any other universe now because, you know, I don't want to just kill it. the hobby for myself, right? Yeah, you know, you don't go too hard into it. But also, um, even though luckily the, the night lord books are actually just not bolter porn, like so many

loyalist space marine books are, um, they're actually quite low on the bolter porn. Um, there's only, there's only, referred to as bolter porn. I know exactly what you mean, but, uh, I've never heard it called bolter porn. I'm gonna, I'm gonna steal that. I'm gonna steal that because I like it, but yeah. Maybe, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe he was Brad from the Poirrama podcast who said that. But like, so, or shit, could have been shy. What, what of our compatriots? We have a lot of sarcastic compatriots that would say something like that.

We do. But like so many loyalist space marine books are just like lots of bolter porn. And it's all about like the battles. And personally, I don't think battles are often written particularly well when it comes to certain books. Like the battle scenes always feel a little bit weak. Yeah. Kind of hard to live up to like a space marine battle in text, right? Yeah, but like when we read Lion's Son of the Forest,

there's like three battle scenes in the whole book. And like the best parts of the book are when Zabriol that giga chat is like going to find other random people hiding, you know? Yeah, it kind of is because there's always that kind of tension of like, oh, will they accept? Or do they think that he's there to kill them? Are they going to jump him? and yeah, and just the interaction between them is way more interesting than any fight they do. Yeah, she shy gets it.

Chapter 1. Dhaka, doaka, doka, dakha, dakha, dakha, daqa, daqa, daqa, daqa, daqa, that is true. A classic word book, yep. You are in our space. Identify yourself, shithead. That is not Imperial Protocol. That is not.

God, what a great book. Yeah, no, the Savitar. To our viewers, like one hour obviously does not do Savatar justice. You know what? Prince of Crows is actually only three hours. I'll just get that done in a day. I'll slap that out in a day. If you want to know more about Sev,

I would also recommend definitely reading the Conrad Chris Primark book. It is very, very good. I think it would give you, it's the one where he makes a meat puppet of the emperor to complain to. Oh, he makes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was a statue that he makes. Yeah, statue, puppet, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a, yeah, he makes a meat effigy of the emperor. Yeah. I'm sure the emperor would love to see what you're doing, Kurs. Wow, I'm so proud of you, kiddo. Let's put that on the refrigerator. A time. The meat puppet, right next to Dorn's Lego Castle. I mean, that has a small apart in the,

that book where like the night lords don't want to talk uh he doesn't want to talk to curz because curz is being really weird and so they send like a slave to go talk to him instead and the slave is like is like actually shitting himself crying doing this um and then curs is like oh my god are those pussies really oh my here listen little slave god i'm so sorry um just just here take this do your thing you can go back to them now. Thank you for delivering the message. And then the slave is like, oh my God. And the slave goes to leave. And then Curris says,

wait, hold on one moment. And then it cuts and he's eating the slave's heart. And I'm like, God, God damn it. I was like, man, wow, wow, so understanding Curz. Wow, this poor slave had no reason to be scared. Yeah, there it is. There's the, there's the Conrad Curse we all know and love. Yeah. Yeah, he's a wild guy.

Yeah. But yeah, Savatar. He's a very, very good character. He's got tons of dynamic to him. I really hope he comes back. We need more named characters in chaos, and the night lords have none. So please, please, please. When would they bring him back?

Because there's nothing coming up soon that would like be a good avenue to be like, and look, Sabotar. Well, is there a night lord's codex that needs to come out soon? No. No. No, the closest we have nexus. Oh, I guess that would have been in the Chaos Space Marine one would have been the Codex that they got, right? Or would have like updated rules. Okay. If, I mean, they can release him whenever they want. There is technically no time frame. That being said, if they were going to release him with how they are doing things right now, it would either be along with a book dedicated to him, along with the Chaos Space Marine Codex, or along with a brand new addiction. So as far as I'm concerned, unless I luck out and I get a book, which I will, definitely not. Probably not.

I get to wait until 11th edition, maybe, in like two years. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah. Yeah, good luck. Good luck. Hey, I got my fingers crossed for you because I, I, too, would love seeing more Savitar, especially after today's episode with kind of how, I kind of love how much of a sarcastic shitter he is. Like, all the other stuff is great, but I do love me a sarcastic shithead.

He's got that, that dry, that dry kind of curtness to him that I really like. Yeah, yeah. In a faction of people that are maybe a little too serious about, a little too drab and whatever, it's nice to have like a sarcastic huckster. I like, I like him. I mean, I will always remember the best part of the first. Nightlord book, which is, um, where do these people coming from? They're probably the gunnery deck.

Zorro, never satisfied with answers. Grab someone, looks him in the face and says, Are you from the gunnery deck? It just blows it. You love some gallows humor. Thank you for joining us on this episode. Death to the False Emperor, uh, in midnight clad. Awby Domit's Knox, etc.

I'm just Knox, y'all.