Adeptus Ridiculous - SIEGE OF TERRA: Abaddon's Brat Summer | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousAbaddon is having a brat summer, a...nd by that, we mean he's getting absolutely humbled in the Siege of Terra.​Special guest TheAmberKing joins us to break down the massive mid-point of the Siege, covering Saturnine, Mortis, and Warhawk. We discuss Abaddon’s disastrous "Saturnine Gambit" (and his subsequent choking), the slow-walking dread of the Titan Legions, and the absolute Chad energy of Jaghatai Khan engaging Mortarion in single combat.​It’s the beginning of the end for the Traitors, and the White Scars are here to make sure they feel it.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:12 Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky. And oh, look, it's Hal the Amber King. But before we get into that, if you enjoyed today's episode and maybe you want to support us, heading over to Patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you get access to Discord, bloopers if they happen, $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in just the most immaculate digital form you've ever seen. You should check it out. Patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous. Bricky, how we doing? You know, I'm doing all right.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It's Monday. You know, we're chilling. We're doing mostly okay. Everything is good. I'm ready to hear about like 15 separate named characters all fighting each other and then all surviving regardless. Which is, you know, that's how the cookie crumbles. And I'm really excited for my favorite character of all time, Malcador, the Sigelite, to get out of this one unscathed. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:01:11 nothing that happens to Malkador, right? Super happy about that one. And, you know, I'm also super happy by the people who go on to, go on to the merch site and check out the posters that are currently going to be rolling out until the end of the month. Anything from 2025 will be heading out by then. So if you want to grab one of those, grab them while you can. There's a new poster coming out soon, but that might already be on the store. But if it's not, it'll be out this weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Let's go. Oh, it's such a good poster, too. It's a good poster. Because there's a time thing, it's all getting all funky. But it's all right. It's good. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah. I'm sorry, Jerry. I can't do that. Howell? I'll have to say. God, I don't know what I've even been asked that. I'm going to. I mean, I don't.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I think of the Seinfeld reference, right? Yeah, I know. Seinfeld. The hell is 2001 Space Odyssey, except I just said Jerry instead of. Oh, you throw me off there, bro. Yeah, I heard, I hear Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. I was like, oh, it's got to be a sign.
Starting point is 00:02:17 George's getting angry. I can do a slight Easter egg for the Adrick audience, which is Hal is not even my real name, and I'm not even going to say my real name. So I'll leave people with that. I know. I'm referring to you as Hal the Amber King this whole time, and that's not your name?
Starting point is 00:02:35 No, no, no, I'll leave it at that, though, because I've got an exciting, second helping today of Situ Terra. Thank you guys so much for inviting me back. I really appreciate her. And I'll say particularly for the people listening today, we've got some good eating today. There is, we're doing three books today.
Starting point is 00:02:56 We're doing Saturnine, Mortis and Warhawk. Saturnine and Warhawk probably two of the strongest books in the entire Situ Terra. I will say now, for the people listening, I will not be able to do these two books justice. It is not humanly possible to do the honour that these deserve. But I'll say for people who are just getting into Warhammer or particularly in the Horacea Heresy Law, or particularly again the procedure terror law,
Starting point is 00:03:26 these two, which are Saturnine and then Warhawk, are must-reads. Hopefully this podcast will inspire you to go give them a try. Well, say, D.K. and Bricky, are you ready to begin? Because I think if everyone's ready, we can go straight into the cool law that we're going to open. I mean, I'm good to go. As far as I remember, we had a similar situation when we did the episode on Dante, because we know the Dante books are, the devastation of Ball books are quite good. And so there's always a lot of that going on. But I've heard very good things about both those books. So I imagine this. is also a disclaimer of like, hey, this is goofy fun ad-rick time, base level knowledge, kind of going through it type stuff. You should read the books, I'm assuming is also part of what you're getting at. Oh, yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I'm hoping to give, again, there was a comment I did see in the last one. It is in fact, this will have spoilers because all lore is spoilers. I will say that going forward. That is true. I figured it might have to be said. when you try to discuss a book series, like you kind of have to delve into spoilers, right? There's just no way around it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Like, we'll try to warn you when the spoilers are coming up, but like, what do you expect? Yeah, but this, I'm super excited about this one. I'm here to try my best guy. I did try my best on this one to deliver you like the overarching, like, battle of the seas rather than every single plot line, although I'm trying my best to mention them.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And if there are some, suit to terror of veterans in the comments. Feel free to help people out. Expand on a pass I didn't have time for. You know, we love it. I'm going to basically dive straight on in. And I'll begin. Like that one,
Starting point is 00:05:16 White Scar guy? Oh, yeah. Barrowling into it. Yeah, dive right on in. Forgot about him. What a can. Well, it will feel like that. Because this one is, um,
Starting point is 00:05:28 it's, there's some epic moments on this, but I will, on theme, it is downhill from basically where we were in the last. episode. We start with a quote to sort of get the mood and the vibe for this one, which is it's easier to fool people
Starting point is 00:05:45 than to convince them that they have been fooled. And I... That's a point point. That's a poignant phrase. With horace, I would say, yeah. It is too relevant to 26, too.
Starting point is 00:06:02 That's, it's, it's, it's, it's, tainty, tintsy bit, uh, teens, it hits a little close to home at times, but, um, that, that is true though. I mean, I feel like, God, it's, it's some, I, you know what, okay, that, that, that, that quote, despite, me, me, walking Phoenix joker moment, I feel the way sometimes so often, because, like, like, sometimes I had some friends and, or, like, like, like, a family friend and there, and they, like, they would come to me during, like, a Christmas dinner or something. They'd be like, so, so, Bricky, you don't, you're on, like, you're on like, you're on like, they, they, they're on like, they, they're on like, you're on like, you're on like, you're on like, you're on like, you're on like, you and so you're a tech guy you know i'm really interested in these nfts things and like once like this is like a few years back right and because once they're sold on it like you just it's so hard to convince them they've been tricked because it's like it's instant it's such shame right it feels so shameful to be tricked like that you were you were fooled you were connived you couldn't see the forest for the trees and that you goofed and not everybody had to the pride to like, not everybody can put their pride aside and like, oh, yeah, I got goofed. I fell for the trap.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah. I'm feeling the same, feeling the same damn way right now with everyone being like, yeah, I'm all in on AI. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, you don't get it. Pain. Yeah. But anyway, I do believe that's also quite relevant in terms of our, our Horacee world. Yes, particularly with a ego the size.
Starting point is 00:07:32 of a war master. Perhaps those who now have gone too far and they looked into the abyss and they blinked and there's no going back. So we open once again with the siege of terror. It has been absolutely relentless weeks of brutal combat.
Starting point is 00:07:53 The skies are permanently dark. Terror itself burns as millions die in the fire of horror. is ambition. And we're going to begin with the book, Saturnine. Again, this is, I'm trying my best to bring the justice to this book because it has so many good moments and the dialogue is incredible and there are lots of places on it. But we're just going to go over like the main things that happen in this book. This is the, I always say it's my favorite one in the entire
Starting point is 00:08:22 Cedoteau series though. And I'll start off light. Yeah, I'll say I'll start off light because we begin with Sanguineas. And he kills a war. Lord Titan. Wait, I think I actually, I think I remember this. I'm pretty sure he's kind of, isn't he kind of like, wait a minute, I know when I die, and it ain't here, baby? And he just, like, slams into it.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He, I believe that he impales it through the neck. So this is the entire warlord Titan. And I don't, I think this might be happening near colossile mercury wall at this point, specifically for the people listening. I need to be fat-chacked on that one. But when this happens, this is like when he's fighting alongside other elements of imperial fists and blood angels, the enemy other titans who are currently in the field,
Starting point is 00:09:13 they see this happen and they go, yeah, nah. He might have been strangling it, yeah, or something. Like, well, I must have been strangled metal. Well, hey, fulcum strangled an avatar of Cain, all right. It is, who knows at this point? So there's a winning engagement, but I think I remember from memory when they say, I think Sanguania says, it's not even like an incredible moment because this is happening everywhere, things like this, little moments where people are doing heroic things and no one's going to remember it. Because it's, again, like in the previous episode, it is a wall, the size of Tibet, it is enormous, and millions are engaged in things like this happening everywhere. We'll then switch to, well then switch scenes to, if you remember Kirill Sinderman, who was like Loken's, like he was the iterator.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah. Moken's remembrance. We had a bit of a, we had a bit of a mild crash out moment when we heard Sinterman repeated by a, uh, after a time ago. Yeah. Well, don't worry. He's currently on a ledge and he's about to jump. Oh, literally. Oh, he's doing good.
Starting point is 00:10:27 All right. Yeah. So in the previous subplots in some of the earlier books, he was basically with Euphrates Keeler. He was having, he was a Keelerite slash, you know, worship the emperor. And at this point, he kind of, his faith has been dwindling. Keel has been locked in prison recently. Not enough time to go into that. He's in this, like, sanctuary place, at the last, like, small area.
Starting point is 00:10:51 He's about to leap, and then he hears a voice. So someone interrupts him. And it's Rogel Dawn. And he's like, oh, okay. He's a bit embarrassed because he realizes that Dawn's like, you were going to jump, weren't you? He's like, no. As a conversation, like Dawn has stepped away from the siege temporarily because he needs to, you know, if you're a lot, you know, you need to see the wider picture. And he's taking a moment for himself, which is because, you know, he's not slept in weeks, basically at this point.
Starting point is 00:11:26 they speak about fear and Cinderman makes Dorn realize that he can actually like what he's feeling right now is fear, like fear that they will lose. And they eventually come to the topic of history because there's no remembrances anymore. And Dawn asked Cinderman to reform the remembrances because the fact that there will be a history to write
Starting point is 00:11:52 gives him hope. And this is all kind of near the saturnine. wall. And this is where he asked, why did Sinderman come here? And it leads to the point where dawn notices there's a fault. Something is wrong beneath the saturnine wall. There's like a little crack. And he's like, oh, shit. And then, so this will be like the big thing that sets up this book. We then turn to the, the absolute ruins that is like the imperial palace itself. people like the millions we saw earlier in previous books the regiments of mortals so many have died
Starting point is 00:12:30 to the point where they just gather together because that's all that's left they don't have like a standard force there are people from everywhere they whenever they meet together as well they often state their name and what regiment they're from and other characters would go like why are you doing this it says it's ultimately to say
Starting point is 00:12:51 so someone will at least remember us. You know, I'm doing it because I'm saying it because I was here. I was alive and I lived. So it's pretty sorry. So someone will still remembrance. Say that again. Yes. Someone will still remembrance to remembrance.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But they, they remember from death. Oh, no, no. I think it's more of, no, it's more of, it's more of, it's because so many of them are dying they just wanted someone to at least know that they were alive at one point because even amongst them like traitor war bands and demons
Starting point is 00:13:32 like stalk the fog and the smoke like clusters everywhere there's this cluster of people who eventually meet an imperial fist called Cambodias who we briefly mentioned in the Solar War part of part one and they like state their name to him you know like one of them's like
Starting point is 00:13:49 my name is Joseph Monday I think one of the characters names, which is really stupid. But he says, like, I'm Canber Diaz, you know, and basically, like, he gathers together, like a group of survivors because they need to head towards, like, sanctuary, essentially. We then cut to where Dawn, Valdor, and Malkador are discussing a terrible choice that they have to make. Do you, if you, if I refer you back to the previous edition, we looked at maps, didn't we? So I would like to refer you guys to one.
Starting point is 00:14:21 On the next Mats will look at, which has on the top right-hand corner, it says Imperial Palace. And on this one, it does say defense of the Lions Gate, which was like things we discussed in the previous episode as well. Yeah. So there's one here. You could see on this one, like on the top right-hand side, and for the audio listeners, it would be still on the top right-hand side of the Imperial Palace. It was the second spaceport because we lost the Lions Gate in the previous episode. This is the Eternity Wall space port, which somehow they've held on to. despite obviously being further away.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I was about to say, I was like, this is more of the outer section of the palace. I'm actually shocked this one is still standing. It shows you in the previous episode, like when the Iron Warriors helped take the Lions Gate, it was actually like, it's almost cutting off their supply lines to Eternity War. So the area between Eternity War space port
Starting point is 00:15:17 and what is now the Lions Gate and then the Ultima Gate, they like it's almost like a no man's land because they made it incredibly dangerous for the loyalists and essentially throughout this book you'll see like it's a massive problem so they basically made the choice to slice inside and then take a chunk out yeah like good old like you know um good old flanking maneuver in some some sense they've they're cutting them off and dawn and valdo or malcador the choice they're discussing is they want to sacrifice the eternity war spaceport. And you're thinking, why would they do that? Because-
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's really exactly what I thought. Like, why would you sacrifice your last spaceport? Because at some point, they believe that they're going to lose it anyway. They'll obviously, remember, there are millions of people still there and loads of stars he's holding its ground. But they notice, or they, if Dawn thinks, I've noticed the fault underneath the saturnine wall. So he has no doubt that Perterabo will eventually notice this fault, too. And if the traces notice it's there, they could do the classic Sons of Horace spear tip attack,
Starting point is 00:16:32 which is, you know, an elite force going for the head. So if they attack the Saturnine War, which I think if you, if I look on the maps on the previous, even on the previous episodes, even on that one that says Imperial Palace, you might be able to see on the top left-hand side, which for the audio listeners is more in like, you know, I described in the last episode like on Motten Bailey, this is more towards the like top part of the Imperial Palace.
Starting point is 00:17:00 There's a section that says Saturnine Wall there. So it's right next to Sanctus and Europa. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that's where the fault lies. And if they do the classic, sons of Horus, they could go straight to the inner sanctum itself and then Valdoin, they point out, then they could kill the emperor.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And they're wondering, who would be bold enough to kill the emperor, like in a spirit tip? That would be Horace. And so they're thinking, we should sacrifice eternity. Let eternity hold out. Don't reinforce it because we could do a countenchant. to attack at Saturnine itself when they come. And some of the greatest mortal generals of terror, they're being sent to eternity wall not knowing they're going to die there, but because it's so hard people.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah. And I was going to say, like, this is where I hit you guys with the question here, which is, which is worse, being a mortal soldier in the emperors or Horace's army for you? Like, if you had to be in either one at this point. Oh, boy. I mean, if we're here, I'd probably say the emperor's army, because we haven't quite degraded. I mean, it's not a fun time, but we're not quite 40,000 era where everything is even like worse. Like, if I was like a solar auxilia, I'd be, you know, it's not a great time, but like, you know, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:18:35 You know, I think it might be better than like if I look to the left and it's horace and then it's like, some do with four eyes because you got a little too close to the warp I don't know yeah what about you DK what do you because remember the the loylus are fighting demons as well
Starting point is 00:18:53 they are so like it's specifically in the siege of terror like I don't think there's necessarily a good side to be on imperial palace even if you're a good general it's like oh no just hold out on eternity wall you're gonna die we know that but like you know
Starting point is 00:19:09 tough shit dude it's just what we got to do or you could be fighting alongside weird drugged out demons and probably be sacrificed as well as part of an offensive anyway. So I don't know, I would say maybe it'd be better to be with the Imperium just because, well, at least your soul isn't damned to came on. You know, I'm about to say, I'd rather shoot the demons than fight with them. Yeah, I think maybe I'd rather be in the Imperium, yeah. I want to keep an arms distance. or perhaps a Las Rifles distance from the demon,
Starting point is 00:19:46 because the demon just existing there is going to make me have a really bad time. Yeah. And who knows when the demons are going to sacrifice you to do some crazy shit anyway? Like both sides are sacrificing their own people for weird moves. I would say, by the way, you would definitely change your answer before the siege goes on because it's bad. And I would say at this point, yeah, I've heard that for me, I would. definitely say Horace's army towards the end, maybe, because I went and you get to the end
Starting point is 00:20:18 and the death, oh boy, that's bad. At this point, so the Imperals are going to sacrifice everybody at eternity for a gambit at Saturnine, hoping they might catch out, you know, whoever's leading that possible strike that's coming. After this meeting, there's a custodian's named Suosimo, I hope I haven't butchered that. And there's a silent sister. whose name is Genetia Kroll who I wish I could give more again more time to this character who's really good
Starting point is 00:20:49 I know I thought it was Janisha but I know I know Miss I was a Miss Kroll she's great she's super cool fuck that Karn guy yeah well this is this is that episode because again for the people who are listening she's a sister of silence
Starting point is 00:21:06 whose ability is so strong that people even like Dawn and other like custodians like Malcadol she's like just a smudge like in their eyeline. She's her blank ability is really, really strong. And her and Swomo, they, they can't sit with the weight of what just happened before them, like because they were present during this meeting.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And they feel like a calling of like they need to be there for the people at eternity. And she eventually goes like, I'm, she surrenders her rank and she says, I'm just going to go into battle. Or she doesn't say it, but she signs that she's going to go into battle. one of her, this is actually one of the coolest moments because I love when Dan Abnett does this in his novels. He brings a humanity in really strong here where one of her sisters is like armoring her up for like her last, you know, basically her death wish. And she just hugs her.
Starting point is 00:21:58 She just gives her like, and it's the first time anyone's like, I think, hugged her an entire life. And she says it's the most incredible, like the most intimate moment of her entire life. and her and Swomo suit up. They get on the Thunderhawk and they're going to go die eternity basically. So, which is like a sweet moment because it, like the book is building you up for these, these two great conflicts that are going to happen. And then as much as that's nice, we switch for the Mornerval who are talking to Idleon. We all know Idleon.
Starting point is 00:22:31 If we remember that one. He's a shit head. He's a jeezer. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we remember that prick.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's all right. He doesn't, he doesn't get, uh, he doesn't get his brain for too long. He becomes a bit of a, uh, it's funny because the one book. He does. It's actually quite good, that one. I like that. No, I don't think I don't long as like a bad character. He's just a prick.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Oh, yeah. The more than will keep making fun of him as well, like, you know. And he, he speaks like his, because he's been like, his head was like reattached in the earlier horacee stuff and he speaks in like a weird way. like his throat inflate, like a kind of amphibian. It's disgusting. Like a frog. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Good for him. He looks ugly as hell. He deserves that. Typhus is also there. And we see that they go speak to Pertharabo because they, Pertharabu is running the siege. Horus is doing whatever he wants to do with good old dad in the warp. He's fighting the emperor. So Horus is not even like a main player in the actual seed.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And obviously Pertharabo is incredible at Sea dwarf. affair. Abadon goes to meet Perto Rabo a few times throughout this book, but one of the first times he goes, he sees all the maps or like, you know, the tactical displays. And this is happening in the Lionsgate spaceport. And this is where like Abadon catches on. He's like, is that a, like, he notices the fault underneath Saturnine. And eventually he would go to meet Pertarabo again. And this is where he finds like Pertarabo and it's like this. chamber that's got no equipment. It's just filled with candles, have like a little simple tactical, like wooden board. And it's because Perciarabo told him that when him and Dawn used to actually get along, he learned from Dawn that sometimes it's good to step away from the battle. So that's a, that's what him and Dawn have both been doing at the beginning here. That's kind of cool. It is cool. I, I, I, I'd be shocked. You didn't waterboard that. I'm Praterabo. I imagine he would take that to the grave.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Well, it's about to get heated up a bit because Abadon makes this proposal to Perterabo that, you know, we're warriors, let the Astartis do this. He says, I've seen the fault. Let me lead a spear tip at it. Um, Perterabo starts to strangle him. Um, nice. Really? Excellent. Yes. Because he is like trying to flatter him and he's, like play he's like you know stop playing with me he's like i've seen the fault you know it's probably a trap and then abdano's like what if it's not a trap you know and then they have a you know abidon is trying not to get himself killed here but eventually percibo agrees you know graciously uh to let the sons of horace attempt this strike and they can prepare whatever forces they need to basically
Starting point is 00:25:30 hope make it go through i'm assuming it was kind of like uh like uh abid on you, you bitch, like, how do you think you know better than me? Yeah, kind of situation. Okay, okay, thought so. Yeah. Because I just, I like the fact that we're doing a very, very abridged version, because then we just get to jump to the climax. It's like, so Avergon goes to talk to Per Chirabo.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Per Chabrobo starts struggling. And then Per Chirabbo agrees that he can go. It's like, wait, what? Weren't we just like Homer Simpson and Bart? Like, you little? and then it lets him go. That's a good image. Perciaravo strangling Avidon
Starting point is 00:26:11 with the, it's just bark with like a not a crop top. The hell. A top knot, sorry. I was like, how does that make? And Homer with some random like machinery in his head. That's an image. This is, we should say, this is without Horace's knowledge.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Well, supposedly. The Abadon and other. characters, they're not really talking to their father, their war master, because it's very obvious that Horace has become a bit mad. He starts to speak to people who are long dead. He has seen reading dark tomes, the vengeful spirit is infected with the warp. I think Abidon just wants this win for the Astati's, you know, they started this war. Don't know the demons or warp things, you know, win it. They want to be. They want to. to win it for the Astardis because, you know, Abidon is a warrior.
Starting point is 00:27:09 We then switch over to what is, if we look back on the map, I don't know if we can see it from the initial ones, but it's the, what is the colossi wall. And this one is quite like a long, like standing area. Like it's a long stretch of the wall. I believe it's on the east side of the Cedareira map. And this is where we see once again, like the enemy is coming towards them. there's a horde of loss and the damned and then there's deathguard behind them disgusting you know smelling like crap deathguard and the white scars once again they sally out and they absolutely
Starting point is 00:27:47 plow through like the mortal humans and loss and the dam that they're like they are beaning them over with their jet bikes because they don't stop at the first line they push through them and then they ram into the death guard behind them the carnage is uttered. So, like, again, we're talking about snapping out, you know, shots of being fired, Dow blades are cutting plague-infested heads from corpses and, so from their own bodies, or basically they are walking corpses. It is utterly ruthless. And as fast as it's happened again, the white scars are back on their bikes.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Like, some of the white scars who have died in the initial strike here, or some who lose their bike, they grab their own men and they saddle them onto themselves. and they cycle back around. And it's like when we see this scene, we're watching it through the eyes of like mortals and some of the blood angels who were just smiling the entire time being like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And although it's incredibly costly at times, you know, if a thousand men go in, you know, maybe 200 aren't coming back, but they kill twice that number that initially went in. So it's incredibly deadly, but you can't use this all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Is there ever an issue with that considering the fact that like, since they're increasing their ranks with demons, like the fact that killing a demon doesn't necessarily kill it and it will come back a week later. Is that like an issue they're running into?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Oh, very much so. Like killing demons is almost like a waste of time in a sense and but there's nothing you can do except fight back so it's annoyingly. Let them run roughshod. Like you kind of have to kill them as they come. Also, I didn't realize that demons respond that quickly.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like I was assuming like after. hyperbolic. Oh, okay. Because I just always assumed, like, oh, you kill a demon. It's like, yeah, it's got to wait like, you know, several years, like before it comes back or something. Okay. Yeah, but you could summon more, though. Yeah, you can always summon more of them, sure. Yeah. We will say as well, just for the people as well, there is, again, I'll do my subplot quick, like, overtures here, which is that they're a subplot of a young remembertor whose name is Harry, who we will follow, like, as like the mortal, like, human perspective. throughout like the when we follow along other soldiers that are fighting near like eternity spaceport and other parts he does come across a man who is kind of a growing legend and like a whispered name amongst the other soldiers and his name is ollie peers not alanius person his name is ollie peers and this guy is a nut job he swears like way too much in this book I think he calls Harry a ball bag at one point, which I do enjoy. This guy is crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:37 He's Grenadier peers, and he is nuts. But he is utterly, like, brave to a fault. And he's kind of, you know, there's like a rumor later on and, you know, in 30K, like, 40K law of, like, the lone guardsman or something. Like, it's, like, often attributed to some part of this guy's legend here, which I was. Yeah, because, because, only is. Alanias PS has kind of had like a bit of a lore change slash like I can't quite tell what's like Fanon and canon especially because like the new things have come out
Starting point is 00:31:11 and it's I've got you covered. Don't worry because I can explain it. I always like that I always like that character. I mean he really as a guard simp he's like the guy but I want to I'm not sure where we're at with that anymore because I know the new books have okay good good I'm glad. explaining as a slight added side note, if I've watched a few Dan Abner interviews where he goes on to explain how, you know, like the real world version of like Hercules is probably not one man, but it might have been loads of different men whose great deeds are attributed to one name, which is Hercules. This is probably the same thing for Alanius, like, Pius, essentially. So we're seeing this happen out, like happen in real time in the Ced of Terror here. And luckily Mr.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Not Job Pears is like dragging around Harry who's like, you know, he's a bit of a, you know, a pencil pusher, a bit of a, not really a wimp, but he's like, oh, let's have a philosophical debate whilst there's demons like right around the corner. They are about to be attacked by demons themselves. And Pierce is like, yeah, fuck you. And he's just shooting at them, doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He's actually saved by Genetia. Or Genetia, I can remember her name is. He's saved by. I crawl and the custodian. And weirdly enough, like, again, I don't have time to go into their entire, their subplot there, but he can actually see her and he calls her like the ancient god of Mithras and he's like, you save me. I love you.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And she's like surprise and the custodians like, it appears he can see you. They're kind of weirded out by that. Harry's is like, this is a smudge over there. What are you doing? And then, so we're going to go downhill from now. the defenders at eternity a spaceport they prepare for a massive
Starting point is 00:32:59 world eater attack that is coming a few of them like I only a few there is a again I wish I could give more flowers to certain characters in this one but a few of the characters do know that there's no help or reinforcements coming and some of them choose to go anyway because they understand like it's putting up a good act
Starting point is 00:33:18 for the saturnine gambit that might be happening in tandem yeah on the bridges that go across to the Eternity Spaceport. If you remember from the last one, we had like sky bridges for the Lionsgate, which is where a lot of the defences were held by the Imperial Fists. There was, there's another one happening now, and we're basically rounding up to the first excerpt here. This is where Camber Diaz, who has rallied lots of the other people around them,
Starting point is 00:33:45 he gathers the few of his brothers who are still willed him on this massive bridge, and he cuts a line in the stone as a hoarder. of world eaters and demons are charging towards them and he says, you know, not one step back. And he actually, he gives like a small, you know, few words
Starting point is 00:34:05 to really rally the defenders. And I'll ask, uh, I'll ask you, Bricky, if you can, uh, go up to what was excerpt one here. This is the stand of Canber Diaz. Camber Diaz. All right. Diaz stood in the name of his lord dorm. He brought his scene.
Starting point is 00:34:23 shield up, it held firm, absorbing the first impact. In the name of his Lord Dorn, he disemboweled. He broke a power lance with his shield and sithed off the arms wielding it. Diaz hacked. He carried a charging world eater over his head on his shield and cast him off the bridge rail. He impaled. He chopped a darting witch dog, the neck and spine. Diaz struck off an arm, a face on a down swing, another head, a grasping hand. In the name of his lord, his lord dorm. Focus. A mist from steaming innards.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Corpses lulled, still upright, unable to fall in the density of the press. He killed a world eater with his shredding shield, wrenching the purring chain axe from the traitor's hands, rotating it, making it his own. In the name of his lord, bone snapping, flesh tearing, impacts, collapses, swinging, striking, striking, pinned, the name of, Dorn. Frenzy, glory, Dias, smoke, blind, blood blind, striking again. Camber Dias, thrusting, cutting, gutting, striking, slaying, in the name of his lord, pinned, unmoving, and unmovable. Diaz. God, damn.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's quite a mouthful there. I appreciate that. Yeah, I do my best considering that. I was like, Camba Dias doesn't take a single step back as they are overwhelmed. and overrun by the world eaters. He kills, I don't know how many who go on his path, but he never takes one set back and dies where he stands.
Starting point is 00:36:01 So very, very, very imperial fist excerpt right there. Yeah. He knows his death is coming and his mind turns to unmitigated focus. His lord dawn, always at the center of his mind. very cool scene. People who do know the Cusia Terror know that. That scene is even longer than what I put there, but we had to talk about that one because it's a really,
Starting point is 00:36:28 they build up even more. It's amazing. I love it in that book. Against you, yeah. There's so many good bits and Saturnine. I've not even gotten to the best bits yet, annoyingly.
Starting point is 00:36:40 It's so good. Pierce and Harry, who we remember again, Mr. Crazy Man with Paul Remembrance of Yeah, Mr. Ballbag and Remembrance of Child. They are next to the spaceport at this point, and they find, in like, you know, with dust and blood covering it, they find a banner of the emperor. And they raise it as a rally point for the other mortals who are, like, scared and terrified in what's happening. They're starting to be charged by, like, they see a world eater who sees them. The way they describe world eaters in this book is, it is like a feral animal.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It is terrifying. Pierce is just shouting at him being like, come on, have some, you know, like he doesn't care. This World Eater is charging towards them.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Death is like about to slam into them. Like, literally make them paste until a Zvihander punches through the World Eater's face and lifts him up. And his body goes tumbling because there's a smudge near them. And that's Kroll defending them. I was about... Hey, let's go.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I got to get more Zway handlers. I mean, it's one of my favorite parts of the Sishes of silence. They're damn Zwhi handlers. It's just a cool ass fucking soren. Shout to Dark Souls 1. If you get the Zvi Hander early. The chaos swai handler, giant dad, son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Near Firelink Shrine, God, I love it. We then pivot to Colossi Gate again, which is near the Colossi Wall. The death guard are attacking. again, but this time they're aided by the thousand sons who summon these massive
Starting point is 00:38:21 colossal, like, colossal, like horned demons and they have like antlers, and they are summoned it to basically swarm the trench lines outside of Colossi. It does not go well. The Jacks I can't. Valdor is there
Starting point is 00:38:36 and Raldron of the blood angels. They have to fall back because they just get pushed back. It's a lot. Yeah. Then the corpses of their once, like, mortal defenders next to them, just rise up and then start attacking the wall, of course. But only with the help of the Fifth Legion Storm Sears, they actually call down lightning. Like, if you remember the Aegis from the previous episode, like that massive, like, shield dome that the emperor has.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Ancient technology has been preventing a lot of the bombardments. There's a small pocket of, like, clean air near the Aegis. And the storms used that to call on, like, the storm sees use that to call on, like, the stormy's. use that to call on the spirit of the wind itself, because they can't outmatch the thousand suns, but they can use something else that already exists and it's near them. So they use that to bring down thunder and lightning. And whilst the thunder and lightning is like just pre-predgainting,
Starting point is 00:39:28 yeah, well, basically, yeah. It was like, it's shocking and like bursting apart these great demons. Valdoor sallies up on his bike and just goes out. And the Khan is like, no-uh, not without me. So the white scars and the custodians do another rally forth. And they cut down these demons and poor Magnus is on like the edge being like,
Starting point is 00:39:53 oh, so annoying. He doesn't like that. So basically what it seems like from what I'm telling is that like the imperial fists are kind of like holding, holding the bastion in a lot of ways or like kind of kind of holding ground. And then every so often the white scars and folks like zoom. out, do the, do like, just go, like little bees, kill a bunch of things and then which buy time for
Starting point is 00:40:17 the fists and they kind of repeat that a few times over? So far, because the Imperial, the Blood Angels are gathering around Sanguineus in other parts. I think he might be near Mercury at this point or other parts. People have to check me on that. But the
Starting point is 00:40:33 Imperial Fists are going to get a bit of a time to shine here because we're going to the Saturnine Gambit, which is what the whole book has like building towards. Dawn near the saturnine wall itself assembles kill teams and this is mostly filled with Imperial Fists and a few blood angels. And these kill teams are going to counterattack Abadon's force that is going to basically, well, I'll explain how they get there in a bit, but there's a force coming and there's these kill teams that all assembled before dawn. They have names,
Starting point is 00:41:07 which is really, again, like we discussed in the last thing, where like the, the wall have kind of like Normandy Beach's names. They give the kill team's names based off of who's leading them. Sigismund gets Kill Team Devotion. Nathaniel Garrow gets strife. Endred Har, who's like a black shield from other parts. Not enough time for that guy. He's enormous, by the way, as Nestarties.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Or possibly a Thunder Warrior, who knows. He's called Black Dog. We have Bell Sepetus, who is of the Blood Angels. He gets brightest. Gallor, who's one of the other death guard who was like Garrow's friend, and he's a loyalist. He gets seventh. And then Maximus Thain, who, if you remember from War and the Beast, I think that's still the same Maximus Thane. So he's here.
Starting point is 00:41:50 We don't talk about War of the Beast here, brother. No, well, he gets Helios, don't all right. Actually, we talk a lot about War of the Beast here, brothers. Unfortunately. We are, we already have this episode. Well, speaking of the last beast, the last kill team is led by Garville Loken. And it's called Naismith, which if you remember, it's like a call back to Horace rising where Sinderman calls him like, oh, it's good to speak against Horace because like
Starting point is 00:42:15 it's like a naysmith like in olden times. So Loken chooses naysmith as his called sign. The more of all, they board these siege drills. As I'm not joking, the entire Third Legion, all of these emperors, you know, children, all their side, everything, they attack the saturnine wall on the top, whilst the siege drill. containing the Mornaville and the elite just arian and other sons of horror companies, they're digging underneath to exploit the sort of the gambit, the whole. Fulgrim has also shown up. And I'll say, what's he?
Starting point is 00:42:54 What's he up to? You know, revenge of the, not revenge of the city, what's the, what's episode two again in Star Wars? Technical clubs. No, not episode, sorry, the old ones. Empire Strikes Back. Sorry, how did I forget? That's my favorite ones. You know, like, when they had the Battle of Hoff and they had the 80s?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah. Well, three enormous Dojon-class siege engines, I think it describes them as like 80-80s. I mean, they are enormous, but they haven't been used for a long time because they're so slow. They creep towards the Saturnine Wall because the Empress children use, like, noise powers. I don't know what that really meant, to obscure their approach. And they launch. Sorry, I have to read this. A donjon pattern siege engine is a massive Titan class platform, basically essentially a four warlord titan legs as a walking aircraft carrier.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Wow. Which reminds me immediately to the walking aircraft carrier thing in Armored Core 4-Anser. Or maybe it's Armored Core 5. I don't remember which one it is, but it looks very cool. It is, when the defenders hear of this, they go, oh, there's an attack coming. Okay. It's the third, you know, it's the third legion. It's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's like, it's the entire third legion. They go, oh, no. So it's the point where, like, Dawn and Sigismund and Thay and they have to, like, bring their kill teams out to go help the war defenders. This is, you know, an attack is coming from the top of the walls and one is coming from underneath. this is where like again not have time to give all that flowers to these scenes but when the emperor's children show up it is uh like it's it'll make you feel ill like the way it describes their look and their armor and everything is but these seized drills like punch in below the saturnine wall and they find kill teams waiting for them and they're totally unprepared for this uh you know you said earlier i think bricky that you know can't wait for like people not to die this one.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Correct. Well, hold on, hold on now. Before you get too deep into that, I'm prepared for many people to die. Yeah. I'm just not prepared for many of the named characters not to die.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. We got to do some plot armor that, you know, they, well, spoilers for people who are listening. If you, there's some minor characters who got more love in the heresy,
Starting point is 00:45:30 but they're ones who you might have seen, Tibot and Ma, he was, uh, from Horace Rising and False God. He's the one who had the other son. Similar, yeah. Yeah, he had the other sons of horrors who looked like him, and he also went with Loken to retrieve the anathane blade when they're in false gods.
Starting point is 00:45:49 He got more love later in this heresy. He's immediately killed by Loken and their teams. Oh. Yeah. All right. Tomogedon, who is the weird, like, resurrected, bloated demon corpse that was Torgadden, and he became part of the Mornival. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Oh, boy, boy, oh, man. Poor guy. He fights Loken, and he, like, speaks in Tarrick's voice, and it's like, oh, God. Except, like, Loken uses his chain swords. It's not working. He's acquired at one point a psychic force sword that he's obviously not a psycher, so he can't use, but he was gifted it by a man who, well, I think it's Rubio, who went on to become part of the Grey Knights. The psychic sword.
Starting point is 00:46:35 comes to life with psychic fire and it pierces Torgadden and it just kills him instantly. And Loken is like, the emperor is with me. The emperor's power brought to life this sword. So he managed to say, this is two current kills for Loka at this point. Abadon's team gets attacked by Garrow's. I believe Abidon is like mauled a bit, although he's obviously Abidon. He ends up killing, and Abidon kills Endred Ha. and he kills Bell Sepetus of the Blood Angels.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Haas, like, lumping, like, humongous body just, like, falls on Abedon, and he's stuck. And, annoyingly, the worst part of this, which is, like, the killing strike is coming. And then Abidon is, like, teleported out. And Abidon starts crying. And I'm not joking, crying, because he's like, let me back here. Let me die like a warrior's death. Let me fight. He's wounded and dying, but he's, like, literally crying his eyes out because he wanted to be in the battle so much.
Starting point is 00:47:35 much. Falcas Kaiba is also part of the Morneville. He is killed by Garrow, which is weird, because he's in the later Black Legion books somehow. He's still alive in the 40K verse. He's also, if you remember the first, like, Talos book, he's the one who, like, when the Terminators, the Black Legion show up, they speak to Falca's Kaiba there. So I don't know how he's alive, but when they kill him, like this scuttling demon, like, crawls out of his body. So, yeah. Great. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Shout to what does this happening? Arcan Land, if you, I don't know if you might have heard of Arcan Land. Yes. Yes. Yes. I actually love Arkin Land. I think he actually rocks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Well, luckily, yeah, he's been, it's funny whenever he speaks in this book because he's so rude to everyone. Like, Sinderman speaks to him briefly. He's like, God, what an asshole. he speaks because Land is working with them and he makes this liquid rock crete and they are basically filling in the gap as soon as has happened they cut off the Sons of Horace kill teams and shout to the one guy who's still in one of the seas drills he sees like the rock crete set around him and he's speaking to a Magos and they say so we're stuck here right like yeah and then the Magos asks how long does an Astartis live and they are like why he's like because that's how long you'll be here. There's a guy buried beneath Saturnine wall forever. We will never hear from him again. Meanwhile, until we need to, until someone wants to pull up a,
Starting point is 00:49:13 some kind of, um, oh, no, he dead. Oh, he is dead. Oh, oh, damn. Well, we might find his corpse at some point, right? When they're like, oh, yeah, we need to redo the wall. Clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk. What's this? Meanwhile, this is happening.
Starting point is 00:49:27 On top of the walls, Sigismund and Dawn go to confront the emperor's children with their forces. Sigismund starts attacking Fulgrim, who's like torturing a good old imperial fist there. And Fulgram's like, ow, ow. Like he's like, he's like, something's hitting me. Because Sigismund is like chopping into him. Um, he like, he picks him off and then Dawn saves Sigismund by, I think the exact way it was like sometimes Sigisman's courage outstrips his, um, intelligence or something
Starting point is 00:49:56 that is, like, Sigismunds. like Sigisman rushing a demon primark is well I guess he's just he's not quite a demon primark yet right but like rushing a primark like that he's crazy business he doesn't even if you are sigisman like god damn like is he is he is a demon primark yet he is but he's he actually appears as his normal almost normal self usually here he's like sort of he's has his legs at this point but then when the serpentine version that just came out well he'll transform into that at one point. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Eventually, Dorn, with a shield in hand, he starts to fight Fulgram. And Dawn is just, like, Fulgram is like, oh, do you see what I've done? I'm amazing. Look at me. I've attacked these walls, and Dawn just starts a rebuttal back being like, you're useless. Anyone else could have taken this wall and put on further, but you guys just pissed about. And he says, like, you're just, I think it ends up with him being like, you're a great duelist, but, you know, you, as you make a poor tactician.
Starting point is 00:50:58 compared to our brothers. And eventually he says, you wasted it. The gambit beneath Saturnine has failed. You're just an idiot standing on a wall. Ah, the idiots standing on a wall thing. I remember that one. That's great. He does a, he stabs Fulgram in the gut.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then Fulgram is like, do you know I can't die? I think he turned into his snake form and just goes, I'm bored now. Like, because there's no point. The gambit is failed. So he just runs away and he lets his men attack Duller. who obviously beats them. Yeah. And then, you know, then he goes, like, he goes to like eat someone.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah, probably. He just cuddles off and just like, oh, whatever. I guess I lost. Yeah. We see eternity spaceport fall. All the people there, like, they give like their last stands as obviously the Gamp, the Saturni Gambis had an amazing success. But the millions who defended eternity with their lives, they all die.
Starting point is 00:51:57 and it is taken by the traitors. And then we kind of almost, I'll say, wait, I'll say, because I want to finish on a particular amazing, like, visual, but the one before that, which is the Third Legion will after this eventually, en masse, leave the siege of terror because they don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:14 They'd go have fun with the rest of terror. Fulgrams quit. Sanguinius does approach dawn in secret. He does, or tells him, like, I have to tell you this in person. He says, I've got intel that. can only be said in person, which is he believes that Gilliman and the Retribution Fleet are coming. I think that the trade to home worlds have been destroyed, which means they know that
Starting point is 00:52:39 they're out there, like they're still alive and they're coming. So that means horrors is on, you know, horrors is on the clock, essentially. And I'll end Saturnine. Again, there's so much more I'd love to explore in this one, but I'll end Saturnine with, there was a lone guardsman, a legend of the name Peers who stands alone and defiant holding a banner of the emperor and he shouts as a demon Angron
Starting point is 00:53:06 charges at him and that's basically it is wow is this after the demon Angron gets thrown from the nightfall yes this is and if you're wondering like where the you know the
Starting point is 00:53:21 the lone guardsman myth come like start arts in some way. There will be some about it later as well when we get to the next episode, but if we're wondering where like the inspiration of it, like sort of, or like the mythology or the story begins in some sense, is a lone guardsman facing down Angron. So it's sort of, you know, things that people know in the 40K sense or, you know, the story of the lone guardsman. It kind of begins here in some sense, which is, and obviously, Olly Piers, or his name is actually Alanias Piers as well, you know, he's part of the.
Starting point is 00:53:53 that myth that will become Ollanius pious or and there'll be some more stuff about that as well. But that is the end of the first part, which is saturnine. Mercifully, though, the next book, I'm not going to do as long section because I hate to say it for the people who are listening who have Reses Eaterrera, they know that unfortunately Morses is the most boring book in the entire one. It's really unfortunate. It's sat right next to two of the best books. So I'm not going to spend as much time on Mortis because our wires will be here all day.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And also, I just want to give the good bits. If people do want to go to this one out, obviously do. But I'll try and stick to the more interesting parts, which is starting with another side plot, guys. You'll never believe it. Keeler, if you remember Euphrates Keeler, you know, your saint, has been spreading a low-key, a little bit of religion here and there. She's been allowed to join the Remembrance Order, but she's still in prison. She starts taking histories inside this prison. And eventually she comes across a man whose name is Basilius Foe.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And she finds out like, he looks like an old man, but he's even older than he looks because he's the last tyrant of old terror before the emperor unified everybody. Wait, he's the last like, um, techno barbarian, uh, leader? Yes, he's a evil, evil bastard. This guy does not have a moral fibre in his body, and he's a geneticist. And at one point he was caught during the Great Crusade by Horus, because at one point he was planning on killing Horace with a genetic. You know how like the anatheme or the blade was perfect at killing Horace in false gods? He wanted to do his own version of that, I assume. And the custodians eventually, I think it's Amon, who or Amon, who's basically a basically a
Starting point is 00:55:50 escorting Keeler around, he learns that foe has this secret weapon he's been thinking of, which is a virus that could kill all Astartis. And I mean all Astartis. So traitor and loyalists are like, and the custodies seize him because they say, we might need that. That'll be a continuing, yeah, this will be a thing that's, even in the scouring, there's still some leads about this going on at the moment. You know, I must say, the topic, obviously right now the internet is awash with large amounts of annoyances.
Starting point is 00:56:29 But considering that we're in 30K era, they released the new custodies box. And the visual of the new models being so much different than the 40K versions being so much like thinner. And they look so much closer to the artwork of the 30K era custodians. and I must admit like it kind of really is starting to sell the whole like yeah we were we're ready at whenever you need to kill all of the the the roid rage the starties like silverbacks when need be oh they they hate them they hate them there's a there's a strong building resentment that's particularly in the seizure terror they really don't like even though they fight besides the startis they there's a deep-seated hatred for them because of what they've almost like that's how they were built yeah almost almost almost like they were always like that they were meant to do or something huh they've always every single time of the custodius has ever been mentioned they always look at the at stardies like they're this this just other baby brother piece of shit yeah like i remember
Starting point is 00:57:45 seeing i think it was i think it was this artwork and it just it's so much thinner. Like it's, it's so much more lied and graceful. And I think it adds such a good representation of it with a lot of the new miniatures. And so it makes me it makes me want to buy the new
Starting point is 00:58:04 30K models so I can be like, oh, finally, I have the real soldiers now. They look phenomenal. Also, shot, I think you're right. Didn't we read in a book that Valdoord literally was like, what do we need like, what do we mean like a startis for? What do we need a primar? We just need more guards and custodies. Like, we don't need these.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Wasn't that the one thing Valdore? Volta was like, I've only ever disagreed with the emperor once. And that was the creation of the Astardis. Yeah. Which, which, which, where was that from? Where is that? I don't remember. That was, I feel like we read it.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Oh, was worth the imperial? Well, because I know we read Master of Mankind, but I don't, I remember. It may just be it. People in the comments can, uh, let us know which one that because sometimes the books kind of blend together a little bit. Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:56 A lot of times. You ever read a salamander's book? How? Well, unfortunately. They're all the exact same when they all. Yeah. A character that we haven't seen for a little while, do you remember the mortal humor I talked about called Kat's a Hero?
Starting point is 00:59:12 He's like the poor guy who's in the trench line. He's fighting alongside a jacket on. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, my poor guy, shout out to the Alpha Legion plot. He barely foiled in that episode. Again, we didn't have time for that. That's like too many plot lines going on. In Mortis, we will see Caterhero's kind of like a veteran now,
Starting point is 00:59:33 because he's been fighting for like, you know, weeks. And he's like, I've seen everything. We see him on a wall line as they get attacked by a war band of Empress children who haven't abandoned the siege yet. And this is where we see that Casaheiros developed a, faith in the emperor. And we see scenes where he's able to use his faith to kind of push against the corruption or like the poisons or other parts that are attacking the mortal soldiers.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Because obviously they're not built like a starty. So there's a growing sense of like, oh, there's power we could actually use against chaos. I will say there's a cool part of this book, which is there's a building background dread. that is essentially people are starting to self-delete on a scale that is like horrifying. And they, and I mean, like, people who they know are incredibly brave. Like, they find them and they, like, murdered their entire families, like, in houses. And, like, there's a sense of, like, yeah, like, there's a sense of, like, growing. I don't know what's the word, like, not desperation, but, like, despair.
Starting point is 01:00:48 even amongst people who it shouldn't be possible. They think it's the warp and it's also of like, you know, it's weeks and weeks of a siege. So it's getting, and there's like this. I was going to say also like not only is at the warp, now is it demons, but like if you're just a citizen on Tara,
Starting point is 01:01:06 it's not going well. Like from the outside, like if you're just living there and you're not privy to all the information, like the ultramarines are coming or whatever, it looks like Tara is going to fall. like they've got the eternity wall they've got the lion's gate it's and it probably feels like it's just a matter of time before yep they're probably going to kill the emperor um so i can't imagine what the sky looks like what's black right it's permanent night yeah yeah it's closed
Starting point is 01:01:35 because it's just terror is just burning also yeah i can't imagine that that was one thing carne said that i always thought was really interesting carn um had this one thing of betrayer where he's like One thing no one ever talks about when it comes to battles is the dust. Like just the ash is the, well, yeah, just the volume of like tanks and gunfire explosions. Like, it's just, there's just so much dust everywhere. Well, most of the smoke, debris. You have to remember, most of the ash that's in the air is from people on other parts of terror. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:11 And then Fulgroom goes and does a line. Yeah. it's a i mean he probably has it's it's incredibly bleak but i'll say like the mortal contingent that like working behind the scenes in the imperium here they start to there's a plot of like they think maybe we should use worship of the emperor to stave off this utter despair because obviously when you have nothing left you know what's the thing that eriber says like even in places where there's nothing to do there's still faith or something where you know basically faith could be uses a weapon and they're willing to use any weapon in their arsenal. This is where I will direct
Starting point is 01:02:46 you guys to the next map. So we'll try my best for the audio listeners again. This is the map that's called Mercury Wall. This is where most of Mortis will take place, which has this like massive area that's outside of the wall, which is like this huge, I mean, enormous scale of this one, which is near Shard Bastion, one of the other like enormous fortifications. There's a place called Lake Voss here, which is it wasn't originally Lake Vosses in this open area. It was basically formed from like runoff and then all the
Starting point is 01:03:16 destroyed towns and other parts. Like it just collected in these great like valleys. So it's like they're like almost artificial, poisoned, irradiated lakes. And a lot of this conflict is going to take place here. We see Perterabo who's basically in charge of the siege.
Starting point is 01:03:33 He goes to meet Horus, who asks him to go to the vengeful spirit. There's a point where, I believe it's Forrex, who's one of the Iron Wars, next to Perz Rabo, him and his primark, they see Horace, and then for a split second, they basically see, like, the most intimidating demon that's ever existed, like, for a split second. It's like, oh, my God, what has he become?
Starting point is 01:03:57 And Horace, like, Perthorabu is doing this meticulous siege. He's grinding down, like, he's, you know, he's staring at maps and displays, and he's plugged himself literally into the newest sphere for this entirety at one point because he's doing it the way he wants to do it. Except Horace orders him to attack the Mercury Wall, which is the one we have on the map here. And this is the most well-defended position of the loyalists
Starting point is 01:04:22 because Horace is like, yeah, if we beat, doesn't matter, this will kill loads of you guy, you know, iron warriors and whatever. If we win here, you know, once I push past the the loyalist sort of greatest defense, then we're basically in the imperial palace. And he doesn't care how many iron warriors
Starting point is 01:04:43 are going to die to do it. Perterabo realizes like Horace, like he's not the horace, he says like, you know, Horace is just like the emperor. He's willing to sacrifice all of us for the ambition. So Perterabo says,
Starting point is 01:04:59 no. And the Lord of Iron himself and his legion are banned the siege of terror. They, in their ships, and some of them say, like, you know, they angle to, like, fight them, but they let them go, because it's not worth attacking them just yet.
Starting point is 01:05:17 But they basically know, like, at some point, once the traitors win, they'll turn around and they'll kill them at some point in the future. So it's like a damned if I stay, damned if I go. Although I say some iron warriors do stay. They defy their lord. I had a question for you guys, because I thought, It's a cool topic that I have thought of, which is which loyalist primark would make a really cool demon primark? Corvus.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I mean, he might as well be there now. Yeah. Like, I don't think Corvus is a deep. I'm like, it's weird because demon is like a weird phrase. Demon like actually refers to a demon. But like Corvus now is just like mutated. He's not like a demon, but he's just mutated, right? He's like his true self and something.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I think he says, like, this is what our father, this is the thing beneath the flesh, the forest flesh that our father gave us. I think it's something similar along those lines. But the, I think, I would love it if he was still alive, Ferris Manus. I think if he was like some weird version of like basically what kind of replacing what Perciarabo's idea of it. But like he's like this liquid metal, like disgusting creature in some sense. like almost like his metal arm like fused even more with him. Like the idea of turning in something where it's, you know, a stoutward, defensible person and then turn them into the opposite
Starting point is 01:06:40 and the worst version of themselves. That's what I was about to say, shy. I was about to say, fallen angel sanguineus as a demon prime arc. Never happen, ever. But I think that'd be pretty, pretty rock. God, I was trying to say it before you got to it shy because I knew you were going to. I did.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Well, there was a few. Before the final seizure terror books came out, there was a, people had like a fan theory of like, maybe Sanguinius fell to the black rage or something, and he actually wounded the emperor, and then they lied about it later. But obviously that never came true,
Starting point is 01:07:15 but that was a cool fan theory, I think, for a while. I will say, this is, again, unfortunately, this book is not, not the shining star in the group,
Starting point is 01:07:25 but there's a few scenes which I did enjoy, which is one of them, where essentially Horace has said, you know, the Titans of Ligio Mortis, which are the largest titan Ligio, the traitors have, I think probably even more than loyalists, they awaken from their slumber in orbit, and they will march upon the Mercury Wall. Hundreds and then maybe even thousands of them, Titans are coming. And from the inner sanctum of the Imperial Palace, the loyalist titans and the knights, they begin their final march. They march on this long, like, long cold.
Starting point is 01:08:01 them together and they're like they blast their horns as a sort of it's almost like a um like a procession you know like from like a funeral in some sense and they like they they march and they make it towards the mercury wall and then this is where they start to wing they basically are going to go meet their death but they're going to go fight legio mortis and this is like all the survivors of previous engagements of like what's happened over the horrors heresy which pretty sad again like I can't give like all their subpot lines and other things, uh, their time, but this one there seems I did enjoy particularly in this book because it's like, see, you imagine how big titans are. You know, they blast their horn, like rocking every goddamn building next to it. And if we refer you back
Starting point is 01:08:44 to the map, which is the outer like wilds near where Lake Voss is, this is where the main engagement is going to begin. So unfortunately, as much as like we've had like so many successes and other parts of the Sea of Terror, this is not one of them. Because eventually the loyalist titans and knights, they engage these other, like, there's just approaching from like the mist and around Lake Voss. There's these titans that they seem to like almost walk weirdly like human-like in some sense. And they take them down. And there's a bit from like, you know, like titanic blasts of firepower is happening in this part of terror.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And these engines, they fall over dead. and then they start to rise again. They realize these are the dead engines of the previous battle of Beta Garmin, the one that was before the Cedar Terror. They're their dead friends and other things, and they've been possessed by demons. There's no pilots with them.
Starting point is 01:09:44 They don't act like humans. And they just keep getting up. So the Loyalist Force, which obviously is like, you know, hundreds of titans, they just smash into this lion and they get bloodied, like corrupt, scrapers,
Starting point is 01:09:58 Code is launched into their loyalist titans. Apocalyptic fire and like crazy melee clashes happen. We're talking about, like, you know, rocketing power fists of titans are literally goring out other ones, but they still keep getting up. They do slightly come on top, but the loyalists are bloodied. And this is when Ligio Mortis emerge and they just basically cutting a long story short, you know, where lots of Titans, you know, detonate their own cause to take, other titans with them, they will be wiped basically by Lidio Mortis and eventually they will make it
Starting point is 01:10:36 towards the Mercury War. I will say, I think it's the, if I remember from, it's not in my notes, but at the top of my head, if I remember the first Titan to breach the Mercury War, I think is the titan that we see in false gods. What was it? I come in the name of it off the top of my head. The D. Assyria? D.S. I see. It's the Diasire. which um shout to uh my lodgecast episode because we actually saw the corruption d sierra makes a appearance in the uh drop site massacre book and i covered that on lodgast if if you want to hear that which it really needed some explanation of why the pilot is all corrupted by chaos it's weird he's talking to like a dead skull no time to go into that unfortunately um but essentially dea's eri is the first one to breach the walls obviously this is not good the understatement of every episode i've done so far And getting to the end of mortars here, we'd have another, another subplot, unfortunately, with Mr. John Gramaticus. God love him.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yibby! Yippee! Not dramatic. Yeah. Oh, no. He, again, briefly, because again, people should go read these books. Some of this happened in Saturnine. Some of this will be in other parts of the books, but he does meet with the Primark's mother,
Starting point is 01:11:54 Erda, and he enlists her help because he wants to convince, he basically wants to help the emperor. And he does get Erda's bodyguard, who is a space marine who's named Litu. Litu is not a starstates made from any primark. He is made from the emperor's gene seed. He is the first Astartis,
Starting point is 01:12:19 and he was the bodyguard of Erda. Would that make them the first Astardis? Isn't that what they were trying to do? the Grey Knights? The Grey Knights, I think, may be a replication of what Leitu is. I think I'd have to also know some other the law guys that they know for certain. But Leitu states, like, he has no Primark father. His father and his mother, you know, his father is a man named Neoth, and his mother is Erda.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And the man named Neof is the name that the Erda knew the emperor as long before he was ever the emperor. So he, I don't even know if that's his real name. knows. It's pretty elite to. Yeah, he'll come up again towards the end, but I thought it's important just to mention him now. He is quite funny as a character because he doesn't, like, he just pretends to play along with sarcasm a lot of time, but he's like playing it straight.
Starting point is 01:13:10 So whenever he's talking to John Cromaticus, who's like, he basically puts him in his place a few times, which is hilarious. They are looking for the character and the perpetual Alanius person who, again, not enough time to explain everything about that character, but that's their general subplot. That's going to be important for the next episode. Meanwhile, this is happening, but what also we learn at the end of the Saturnine book was that in the solar system, a force of 10,000 dark angels arrive under their first captain Corswain.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Corswain's group, they kind of hang out with the survivors from the previous solar wall. and they just think there's no point wasting time here and we need to go help and we also need to like, you know, he thought the lion would be here, but he also has, you know, he wanders saying, why is Dad not here? That's really suspicious.
Starting point is 01:14:04 But they, the Astronomicon, which we most people I think know from Warhammer law, it's gone dark, it's been, there's no guiding light for Gilliman and his fleets. So, Corswayne's group, with the sacrifice of the emperor's personal ship, the imperator somnium, which they gather all of the transports from the previous survivors from the solar war,
Starting point is 01:14:27 they're using Blood Angel and White Scar Thunderhawks and other parts. They make a massive gambit for the Astronomicon to hopefully relight it. The Imperative Somnium, with the last custodian on board, gets torn apart by the traitor's fleet as they drop hard desperately these 10,000 dark angels to what is called the Hollow Mountain. Again, not enough time to explain it. It's a very cool scenery under the Astronomicon's main base, but this is all for the BASI to relight the Astronomicon.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Another side plot I have to mention, I promise you, it's like the last one of this book, which is the recruits, the 10,000 recruits, Quartzwayne got them from Caliban, and these recruits have been trained and been made loyal to Luther, not to the lion. So there's an interesting, there's a problem for course Wayne possibly in the future.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And we're kind of, I forget, there's a great moment in Sun of the Forest. I forget the name of the guy, but he's one of the, um, he's one of the fallen. And he's kind of like a, like a, not a shit talker, but he's like kind of talks himself up all the time. It's like, the best duelist, the best. Ah, no one could ever match me with a sword. And then one of the other fallen is like, I think course Wayne would have had some words. because he's the guy. Yeah, it's, there'll be some shenanigans in the future.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And I will say throughout the book, if a lot of people, the books, plural, if you're wondering, where the hell has horror has been? As again, he's still attacking the emperor and the warp with these weird mythological scenes. And I'll ask D.K. if you can find excerpt two, because there is this old, a gaunt king sitting near a tree as serpents circle him and a son comes to speak to him All right
Starting point is 01:16:24 You have lied to him The emperor says And the voice holds no crack or note Of the wasting that marks his face His eyes are on the serpents And they rear up at his words Mouths open, fangs showing Eyes black pearls in the glare
Starting point is 01:16:41 When he sees which you have made him There will be nothing left of him for you, nothing. You create only hollow things. You make a desolation of hope and a wasteland of the future. Hope, says Horace. He rolls the last of the dust between his fingers. There is no hope for you, Father, and there never was. This was inevitable.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I was inevitable. Horace smiles and nods. He flicks the last of the dust. The band beneath the tree coughs, the sound of a rattle in a dry throat. He shall undo you, says the man to the serpent. I made him. I know him, his strengths and his flaws. To you, he is only a slave, but he is still my son.
Starting point is 01:17:23 The man beneath the tree stands. Behind him, the tree bursts into flame. Yeah, so the emperor's getting weaker as these books are going on. He is, you know, whatever this weird dreamscape is, it's the emperor's suffering and Horace and the chaos gods. are slowly eroding his power. That's why suddenly the demons are able to manifest on terror. Rounding out the last of mortis.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Oh, I almost forgot. Again, no time for the subplot here. But you know the guy, Katzahiro, who I've mentioned like a little bit throughout the books and like a mortal guy? At one point, he found a baby, just like a lone baby survivor. It's like, oh, he found it from another character. But he begins caring for this, like this one small piece of hope in this like, terrible seed. So poor cats are
Starting point is 01:18:14 looking after, they're like, whose parents are like a long dead at this point, I'm sure, but it's caring for this child. And the book kind of ends where John Gramaticus, Litu, a lanius person and basically his entourage who've been helping him, they meet this mysterious woman who calls
Starting point is 01:18:34 herself Acte. And she has a legionary of the Alpha Legion who is aiding her, and his name is Alfarious. No shit. Yeah. Because we are in the spoiler territory, I'm letting people know now. Acta is not this real person's name.
Starting point is 01:18:52 It is Cyrene. Wait, the word bearers blind lady? She has a blind, she has like a bandage across her eyes, and it is her. Wait, what the f- I thought she died. She was resurrected, if you remember, by Erebus in, first heritage. Oh, right. She was,
Starting point is 01:19:16 wait a- no, wasn't it a betrayer that they resurrected her? Oh, so yeah, betrayer, sorry, betrayer, yeah. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Why do I not remember any of this? Because I remember so many port threads coming together, that's all right? Well, because Angron would go to Argel Tall
Starting point is 01:19:31 and he was just like, hey, Argel Tall, you couldn't even save your blind lady, huh? And he just kept on, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, okay, now I remember. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Cool, cool, cool. Because Angron was being a shithead and it was very funny. Okay. I remember now. Got you, got you. Cool, cool, cool. Cool. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Okay. Yeah. So, so many threads are coming together now, like, of all the horror's heritage things, are all being converging, which is why, like, again, it's why this series is so bloody long. But a lot of that will be saved for the end and the death. I will state here. Luckily, we're not, there's not too much grammaticus going forward for the end of this
Starting point is 01:20:09 episode, because we're finishing it up with the last book. which is again an absolute banger. This is Warhawk. This is focused on our boys, the white scars. And this is like, this is, I didn't want to say their final play, but it's in like, this is like their big move. This is their big move they're going to do. So we begin this section in the mines on Chagoras, only lit by small candlelight.
Starting point is 01:20:35 The great forges of like the Fifth Legion's like blades, their dows, their other parts. they see their candlelight flicker. And they have a feeling, slash, like, they know that sometimes when it happens, it means another sun of Jagoras has fallen in this galaxy breaking wall. So that's where we begin. We fast-forwarding again back to the siege here. The palace, outer walls are broken.
Starting point is 01:21:03 The enemy is roaming within, like the inner sections and all the other parts. They have swarmed over many of the defence. The Eternity Spaceport has fallen. Lionsgate has fallen. And so many other things have been lost. The growing sense of dread we had in the previous book, I will say, I think the mortis ends on like a long line, like a procession of people leaving and they're just like,
Starting point is 01:21:27 they're basically going to go end it. So, yeah, so it's pretty horrible. And the morale of the defenders is eroding at such a pace, because they realize it's the death guards, like, you know, like, death guard have their corruption
Starting point is 01:21:44 of when you're near them, like the apathy and, like, the despair, it is growing to the point that it might collapse the loyalists entirely, like all the mortal defenders,
Starting point is 01:21:54 particularly. Jagatai Khan and the white scars, in fact, I say everybody, they're exhausted, but they, particularly before, Jagat Khan,
Starting point is 01:22:04 they need to do something about this corruption, and they make a plan. They're going to retake the Lions Gate Spaceport. Oh, yeah. Perciarablo has left. It's no longer occupied by the Iron Warriors, because good old Mortarian and it's stinky boys,
Starting point is 01:22:22 if I refer you to the next map, actually, you can probably see, and I'll do my best again to explain it for the audio listener. So we have the last parts of the inner sanctum parts here. In the top left and corner is still the protected Sanctum Imperial. But those outer walls have been lost, and now they're at the inner wall sections. The Lionsgate, main gate is still holding, so it was Ultima and eternity. And we see, like, what was, like, the land between, like, on the other maps, we'd show.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Like, they weren't that far away, like the Lionsgate, Spaceport and the Lionsgate. But, like, the no man's land, or, like, what was the Imperial Palace has been flattened in between. It is nothing but rubble. Other bastions have fallen. Only Colossi, which was their strongest one, is basically still standing. If you look on the top of the map itself, where the Mercury War was, that's where the Titans broke through. That has fallen. So other bits, Sanctus has fallen.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Europa has fallen. Most likely, I think Saturnine has fallen as well. It is bad. Is that what Mortarian and the Death Guard have actually done to the spaceport? They've, like, just completely turned into, like, just a nerve. goal infested space port. Oh yeah, I say that corruption is starting to spread on terror, like as in the world itself is starting to ripple with like warp energy.
Starting point is 01:23:52 This is this is a scene from the scouring book that will hopefully maybe one day will do something about that in the future. But there's one of it because it's a scene that happens outside of the Imperial Palace. There's a random field of people just buried to their waist dead. Galee. It's like there's weird, like, they're doing like, the word bearers who are still there. Like, they're doing weird shit, I'll be honest. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Like, other, like, terror is a horace, terror is basically Silent Hill. Yeah, yeah. It's disgusting. And I just, I keep wondering how different this would have been if, like, uh, if Horace had just always listened to like Purdy and Purdy hadn't left. Hmm. Well, like, would they have actually have held out?
Starting point is 01:24:38 and would they have actually won and would it like they probably would have gotten to uh biggie before the ultramarines could like get here and like man what a colossal fuck up i think it implies like if the iron warriors stayed they would have won so yeah we also see on the map as well there's a enormous ship called this sky plate which is essentially it's a docking platform that has is like hiding under the egos every useful thing every gun everything on it has been taken off and essentially has been there for most of the siege of terror. It's not useful, but it could be part of this really ingenious plan, which is the white scars want to take Lyons Gate to stop the death guard, and they need a spaceport to quickly get Gileman's fleets and their forces on the ground,
Starting point is 01:25:26 like what Pertarabo did initially with their Titans and other forces. So they, over the book, they gathered this enormous armada of people. They form a, like this new, Terran Tank Regiment. They recruit the lead of the skyplate, the guy who's in charge of that. And what I find quite sad in this book is some of the white scars, they allow themselves to be captured, tortured and killed by the enemy
Starting point is 01:25:54 to sell the deceit that they're basically just retreating behind the walls. And like they say like some of them have made this great sacrifice. Obviously, you imagine how it is to die at a word bearer's hands. Not very fun. I'm going to carve another eight-pointed star over here this time. So you think about that. But that's like,
Starting point is 01:26:15 that's how far they're willing to go. Fun part to mention, traitors such as Khan and other sons of horrors, they're just running around as like, like roaming mob. Like, just killing people. Like, it's all no organization.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Well, typical, typical world eater stuff like, right? Like, no organization just, yeah, they just,
Starting point is 01:26:35 uh, Carnes a little far, Carnes is a little far gone at this point, isn't he? Yeah, it's a mess because the, obviously, Perciaro is no longer in charge. It's just people attacking the wall, essentially. We see here as well, like Sigismund, he goes like his full character arc in this book,
Starting point is 01:26:54 which is he embraces the true meaning of what it is to be an emperor's champion. He has gifted a black sword by Malkador, the first of the Templar's famous black. awards and he starts to assemble Templar kill teams. There he scorns the yellow from his plate and we'll see what
Starting point is 01:27:15 Sugisman does with this in a short moment but there is inside the inner sanctums we see on the map as well except I see when the siege is happening the people are the normal people everyday lives and the regiments of fighters they're retreating
Starting point is 01:27:31 into the closer and inner sanctums except there's barely any room now, like all the billions of people on terror, there's no room. And we see a subplot here where Euphrates Keeler, who's managed to somehow escape the prison that she was in because they got attacked, she starts whipping up people into like this emperor worshipping further, further, sorry. The people obviously, like, you know, in months of siege at this point, you know, there's nothing left them except the emperor. And, you know, a lot of them have become zealots. And they send them out in waves. And ordinary people just grab, like, you know, screwdrivers and other parts, like a machete,
Starting point is 01:28:14 whatever they have. And they throw themselves at traitor Astartis. They say their success rate is about a thousand people can kill one Astati by, like, jamming things in their, like, little joints and other bits. And they're throwing people out in large numbers to do this. So that's how bad it got. It's why Chris Rait, who wrote this book, he's nuts, man. I don't know what goes on this guy's brain. That's insane. I mean, it sounds about what I'd expect, though, you know?
Starting point is 01:28:44 Like, eventually after enough time, like, after the 700th person finally prized that damn helmet off. And then the other, and then the final 50 of them just starts jabbing screwdrivers in an starty's eye socket. Like, yeah, that'll, you'll probably finally get to it. That'll do it. Right. There it is. A thousand of you. Eventually, I think it's another book where someone says, eventually a chain sword will get clodled with meat.
Starting point is 01:29:10 So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We see here where we have scenes with Mortarian and the death guard who are, they made the Lionsgate spaceport theirs. And Matarian and Typhus throughout most of this book are arguing because Typhus thinks he should be in charge because he's like, I'm the one who, you know, I'm number one in Papa Nurgle's eyes and which are, and it's like, I'm the primac.
Starting point is 01:29:35 And, you know, even I've embraced chaos now and Typhers to say, well, you did it against your will, whatever. I was the one of the start of this whole thing. Yeah. He sure did. There's a, there's a secret war going on between the two. Typhus does take a large and amount of the death guard forces because the dark angels have taken the hollow mountain with the astronomical on it.
Starting point is 01:29:57 So they're going to go attack them. we'll see how that goes because that's a very cool scene in some of the next books we then also see like perspectives of like normal deathguards there's a guy called Kaifa Morag who's there's actually an artwork of him in the
Starting point is 01:30:12 Cedar Terror because they're learning to embrace this chaos corruption that's happened to them because it's only relatively recently that they were turned into plague marines and it's like a weird scene where he's like playing on this little nut he's like playing with his nurgling
Starting point is 01:30:28 Like it's like a cute pup And he's like oh Gucci Gucci It's like Oh so disgusting And he's like Speaking to Gets all like excited
Starting point is 01:30:36 And wagged its ass And then barbs from a box Yeah Oh what a cute little guy But they love that shit They love their little nerglings They are like little cute little pets To plague marines
Starting point is 01:30:49 And that's right Just bit shawl us in the carpet Never mind And they just like Oh You go You go Look at a little shit
Starting point is 01:30:57 Nurgling will like, will, like, shit itself and they, like, rub its ass on the carpet like a dog does. Yeah, they, like, do, like,
Starting point is 01:31:03 do, like, the little scoot. Or a lick it. Probably. They're disgusting. Yeah, they'd probably scoot in the mess so they could make more of a mess
Starting point is 01:31:09 as they just leave a trail of, yeah, you know. Oda 14th, they call it. Um, but he's also, Kifor Morg is like speaking to this,
Starting point is 01:31:16 um, other demons. One's called like a rem, like a, like, like, called the remnant who is like, maybe your prime mark ain't all that.
Starting point is 01:31:23 You know, maybe he's, you know, you're not, he's not embraced, you know, the grandfather's blessings like he should was where I leads into my favorite question of the episode, which is, which chaos God would you guys fall to? Oh, God. Well, fall to or wish to serve? As in, I mean, like, they, the chaos corruption has arrived and that, that guy's got you.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Not like, you choose, no choice. This just happens to you. Who wins? Well, who wins? that's obvious but like yeah i'm not sure what you're trying to i'm not sure that please reiterate the question oh course i would say which chaos corruption do you think would be the most effective on you hmm yeah shy's definitely corn that's unsurprising i don't know that doesn't she seems a little wishy-washy on that corn thing yeah yeah should we count okay let's see
Starting point is 01:32:19 one two three four five six seven eight nine one two three four five six seven eight nine ten And 11. So she put exactly 100 separate instance word corn in the chat. That seems kind of wishy-washy to me that she only did 100 of them. Nothing about skulls. I definitely would either be Slanesh or Zinche. Slanesh for the pursuit type stuff, not for the BDSM. And Zinch maybe for like the one for like change and novelty and like ambition.
Starting point is 01:32:54 New stuff. Maybe a little bit of ambition. yeah um i'm not i'm not sedentary enough to do nergle so what about you dk i think it is well documented that i would drink from that tall glass of slnuch so oh gild no you ask the question i mean i'm not you ask the question i mean what do you want i'm not going to judge because that is that is early ad rick lore brother got me in a stranglehold. I won't explain why.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Sickness, not feeling good. I'm understood. Despair into joy, I think. That's the interesting part I'm talking about Nurgle stuff, which is you become, no, brother. That's, that's called BPD. No. No.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Uh, yeah. Whoops. Yeah. Maybe people comment below as though, if you're listening, like, you know, which one you think would, you know, snag you. But as, you know, this, this gap, like basically another gambit is happening in the suit of terror where the white scars assembling these massive crews of tanks and other legion forces, they basically every gun and every person they can grab who's willing to do this, they join them and they launch their attack. Which I find really cool is that the tank crews, that they seal themselves in their tanks, in their Lehman Russes, because, and they put on like gas masks and other bits, because when they. get close to the death guard, they notice, like, if one of them, like, stares too long at a deathguard,
Starting point is 01:34:30 they will just throw up. Like, oh, like, they don't want to get infected anymore. So it's, like, full ceiling protocols. The white scars, the last of their jet bikes, and those of other lesions that they can gather, they just do this one last charge. And they've started to battle the death guard who are, like, rising from the ground near the outer works of the Lionsgate spaceport. it's a very cool part where they mention how because the plague marines are so difficult to kill, the white scars often have to fight in pairs. So they're almost like two smaller things, killing like a big beast, like, you know, two walls fighting a bear in some sense. Or like, you know, they happen to like, basically they take longer to kill them to cut them down.
Starting point is 01:35:15 From the sky landing in, you know, Randy Orton slithering out, the Khan rockets in with his dragon mask face. he sends a, quote, a 30-ton leviathan flying in the air as if it was nothing. And you're probably wondering if I refer you back to the map, what's still that's the skyplate business about? The entire advance of the white scars and this massive mounted like tank regiment, they are covered. The skyplate ventures outside the Aegis and basically covers them from orbital bombardment, sacrificing itself. So it's like hovering over their force as they get closer to the lion's gate
Starting point is 01:35:57 and eventually it does get taken down. But they've managed to get themselves close enough that the enemy's not going to fire too much at their own lion's gate. They need it. So the sky plate was like a massive gambit to protect their forces while they are not, I think they, it's even more haunting in the book. They're going over like this dark, empty terrain where like there's as corpses everywhere. And it's obviously not that close to each other because again, Cesar Terror is huge. They eventually do make it to the lion's gate. Obviously, it's skipping over a lot of things. It's pretty brutal inside because it's not suited to the Fifth Legion's, you know, hit-and-run tactic.
Starting point is 01:36:31 This is corridor, hold the ground, you know, benefits 14th, plague marine-style combat, so lots and lots are dying. I hate to do it again because we see another subplot here. Golfavish, out to the sub-block counter in the corner. Also, big, big fan of the Death Guard. As of recently, like heavily rusted artwork vibe they've been doing recently. Oh, yeah. Huge fan of these images. Probably some of my favorite Death Guard images ever.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Art by Lewis Jones ever drawn. I just, it's such a different take. Oh, yeah, they're so good. It's such a different take and it's so, it's just like so grimy. I love that. I like, I prefer the white. I, like, the sort of discolored and rossed. and rotting white plate compared to the green, I think.
Starting point is 01:37:25 It's like it makes it even more like dingy because you can really show like rust and corruption, I think on that. Green is still, I get me wrong, but I, that's just a personal preference, I think. I actually have been wanting to get some death guard models just to kind of paint them, but I always try to figure out what the hell to paint them that isn't green or white. I want to do something different and it's so hard. Or just, uh, you do it like they're actually like metallic, like a rust on there. Be just, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Oh, yeah, like actual metallic, yeah, yeah. You can actually find Lewis Jones's artwork. And actually, actually, Mr. Lewis Jones has done most of the artwork, I think, is the coolest stuff ever. Particularly, you've got the one with more of involved looking like a zombie. You have the world eaters, Ging seal, Colts, Chaos Space Marine, and Astromilitarum, and Admec Codex covers for 10th. you've got that awesome artwork of the High Lords of Terra that I love so much and of all the unknown Zenos. It's this guy has been hard at work. Thank you, shy for the great clean one.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Appreciate that. Oh, yes. We hate that here. I do not like the great clean one. It's way more unsettling. Where's the better. Come to think of it. Lewis Jones has done like all the artwork I think is absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:38:49 good. They even did all the old sisters artwork that I've talked up so much from the prior the prior codexes. They did the Hexfire one with the Thousand Sons too. What a guy. Absolutely. What a guy. What an absolute champ.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Al to Lewis. Shout to Lewis and shout out to the, again, rounding out to the very end of Warhawk here. Another subplot, which is someone finds Erda, because they've been followed. following Mr. Alani's person.
Starting point is 01:39:22 It's Erebus. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Erebus. Three times the, oh no. There's a.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Well, it's Erebus in 40K. Oh, no. Not getting too much into their conversation, because again, I hope people do go check out a lot of the book. There will be some spoilers coming up, though, if you don't want to know any more about that. But it is revealed that she's the one who scattered the primarks, and chaos lied about it in First Heretic. They didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:39:58 She did because she wanted to spare her sons from the emperor's ambition and power. And yep, so basically, the chaos is a big liar. Shocking. I know. Eventually, Erebus is just attacks her. And he reveals, like, I didn't come here alone. And four greater demons uncurl from behind him. Oh.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Erda explodes with power, and she battles the demons with her own might, and she's able to banish them one by one, but is left incredibly wounded. Erebus. Okay. Heard about this. I remember this. People being really upset about Erda. Why is she OPE? Why is this new plotline coming out of nowhere?
Starting point is 01:40:43 It's greater demons. It's Erebus. What is this? And people really not being into it. I'm going to ask my questions post, but finish this plot thread. Well, it kind of ends with Erebus holds an anathane dagger to her neck. And he tells her, worship me. And she just spits in his face and then he kills her, which is kind of the end of the Erda plot, essentially.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Did you ever, do you ever question? So, yeah, so, okay, so because end of the, this is end of the death. Yeah. Eventually. This is Warhawk still. This is just before echoes of eternity and then end of the death. So it's confirmed that because I remember hearing about this that Erda was like, I'm not going to let you do horrible things to like my sons, the sons, and then they were
Starting point is 01:41:36 the one who spread the primarks out and about, yeah? Mm-hmm. Okay. So I'm trying to remember. I don't remember because I didn't read this book, obviously. that is that is fully confirmed like like because we've obviously said that chaos did it for a while now but i don't remember when war hawk came out it's been a few years but i assume with obviously the overlords that james workshops blessing or probably most like i think it's a dan appanate thread but this is chris rote who's writing this
Starting point is 01:42:05 um i assume it's because they want to show like chaos is is a liar essentially the other plot again it's not like did it have to be there who knows it's not for me to say but I do find some interesting parts of it obviously the fact like Erebus he knew he knew that she's the one who did it
Starting point is 01:42:28 he spread the prime marks so he says like you know you're kind of a legend amongst chaos in some sense because you let this he points like the suitzitarian is like you let this all happen so it's a show like I think the It's the ending of the perpetual plot lines, essentially. You know, this is the need of these people who are immortals to shepherd humanity, whereas they've done a pretty piss-poored job, essentially. But that's my, that's how I see it.
Starting point is 01:42:52 That's not, that's not gospel, because obviously this is up to interpretation. Sure. Because it's chaos. Also, what the word bears saw when they went into chaos is just a big lie. That never happened. It was Erda. Seems so. Well, not.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Cale's lying is not, I mean, it makes sense. It's not abnormal, no, but it was what we assumed was the case for such a long while. So my other question, though, is who is Erda in the sense of why is she so strong? Is she like, who is she? A brief run down is she is also a perpetual like the emperor. God damn it. Maybe as old as the emperor or older. And it's to explain, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:38 know if I would, I have to have the book in front of me to do it like a proper, uh, law, biblically accurate explanation of it. But I think it assumes, again, people correct me in the comments if I'm wrong, but off the top of my head, I think when Erebus is witnessing her power, it's to show like she, he weirdly sees that she draws a power from a place that he doesn't understand or it may be psychic in nature or it's like faith base in some sense. So it's not from the emperor, basically. It's esoteric. And I, and I, again, people may disagree or there's like, I'm not
Starting point is 01:44:12 mainly doing this 100% justice, but it's the point where like, it's not chaos. And she like even makes a point when she has dialogue with areas of being like the best people I ever knew in life were people who are honest and good people. They never, they barely made a ripple on the warp and she's, that's why she's
Starting point is 01:44:28 not, you know, this grand player anymore. She wants to be more like these people. So maybe the source of her power. I mean, there's other things in Warhammer like these like spoken words of power like an nuncio and other things again that's just
Starting point is 01:44:41 it was like his own episode but it's not like chaos corruption that Erebus has where it defies him and this point where she was able to banish she I think he says she unwinds the essence
Starting point is 01:44:54 of these demons and then kicks them off into the warp so she's not exactly a pushover she's been around a long time you know for probably 35,000 years is this the first time she shows up in
Starting point is 01:45:06 books and stuff. She appeared in Saturnine. In Saturnine was the first one she appeared in. Right, but like in the last decade of novels leading up to the end of the death is when she was brought in. She was not she didn't show up before. I don't
Starting point is 01:45:22 know if I think she showed up in the entire Horace heresy theory, basically. It's only a seat of terror thing. So it's relatively. No, no, of course. I don't remember her anywhere in like the Horace Rising trilogy, the first heritage, but no, no, no mention. This is where she's first brought up. So this is just sort of like, she shows up, it was me, Austin, it was me all along, and then dies.
Starting point is 01:45:39 It does catch me a little off guard, seeing the, uh, that's such a major adjustment in the scattering of the primarcks. Not to say that it doesn't make sense. Like, yeah, if I was her, I'd be like, holy hell, like, get him away. Um, you know, get them out of here. It does, it makes sense in one's part, which is the whole vision of chaos when, um, Aguatal and the rest of the serrated sun, when they see the. had the primarcks, surely the wards around the primarst would have not let them or any demon
Starting point is 01:46:11 near them. So yeah, that's my. That is true. That is true. Like that's why I was shy on this one. I never liked perpetuals as a concept. Uh, and, uh, such a major adjustment in, in what happens over the course of only two books. Seems a little, uh, a little, little rushed. But Anyway, I mean, the whole thing we're doing here is rush because we're fitting like three books in two hours. It's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry. We're almost, we're at the final, like, stretch here, which is we turn back to Sigismund.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Sigismund has transformed into something that will be terrifying and it is the embodiment of the black Templar to come. Sigismund and Khan eventually find each other in the ruins of terror. and they have a rematch from what they previously had in, I believe that was first war in the previous episode, where Sigisman was outmatched. By, sorry, Khan outmatch Sigismund. He utterly wrecked him. Khan starts to fight Sigismund,
Starting point is 01:47:20 and Khan's, in his inner thoughts, he describes it as something close to fear. Because the Cornate berserker, you know, blessed with Corn's, you know, eye and his blessings and other parts, he senses nothing from Sigismund as if his hatred is like so complete it becomes serenity.
Starting point is 01:47:43 At least that's the way I particularly would view it. Like it's gone so far beyond the point of like anger. It is just, I don't think of you, I just kill when I see you. I step on a bug when I see you sort of thing. You don't even think of you. That sounds like Sigismund. Khan cannot believe what he has become.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Sigmund is outmatches Khan utterly rams him with his black sword through the gut and he kills Khan and he feels nothing when he does it. Absolutely nothing. We got to get this guy to go to Lucius. Yeah. Well, again, that scene is, I don't know if I could do that scene justice because it's really good in the book. But moving on to the last section, which is in the Lionsgate in this ferocious battle in the spaceboard, Mr. Jagatai Khan himself finds Mortarian and he begins
Starting point is 01:48:36 he begins his dance the Khan never stops striking he never stops reposting he is blocking everything that comes towards him as the wounds on his body begin to rise because he knows he can't beat Mortari he's a demon primark when they last fought on Prospero
Starting point is 01:48:56 it was evenly matched it is a completely different ballgame now he taunts Mortarian he enrages him he says I should have fought the legions master typhus you gave in corruption damn that's that's pretty good that's how you rile him up I'll guide uh
Starting point is 01:49:14 Bricky would you be able to read what is excerpt 3 and yeah sorry let me just scroll let me just scroll past all the corn skulls and blood yeah she really went ham on and guiding you into that the con start finishing were saying, you gave into corruption, I resisted, my endurance is superior. And Mortarian says, if you know what I did, Mortarian cried out, then you know the truth of it,
Starting point is 01:49:43 brother. I can no longer die. The Khan's bloodied head lifted, the remnants of his long hair hanging in matted clumps. Oh, I know that, he murmured, but I can. Then he leapt. His broken legs still propelled him. His fractured arms still bore his blade. His blood-filled lungs and perforated heart still gave him just enough power, and he swept in close. Silence interposed itself. Silence is the name of Mortarian's scythe, D.K., catching the con under his armor-stripped shoulder and impaling him deep, but that didn't stop him. He just kept coming, dragging himself up the length of the blade. It only took a split second, Mortarian's eyes went wide, realizing that he couldn't wrench his brother away in time. And that makes the difference, Jagatite spat.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He snapped his dow across, severing Mortarian's neck cleanly in an explosion of black bile. Yeah, damn. He did the classic, get stabbed, shove self up sword to get a hit off type thing. crazy he and I'll say when this happens because again even I said it a lot
Starting point is 01:51:01 but it's amazing in the book the way they build up to that particular fight and the moment this happens both the death guard and the white scars they feel their
Starting point is 01:51:12 primark's deaths like they both just stop and they feel like there's emptiness amongst them like their ears like buzz and they go they know
Starting point is 01:51:23 like obviously Mortarian is banished into the war but they the white scars know that the great leader the Kagan of Kans is dead they shout de mark which is basically death and they rally forward to honour his death essentially and they manage to push
Starting point is 01:51:43 the only the arrest of the death guard out of the spaceport because remember a portion of them went to go with typhus they almost lose the himself, so this like death wish. And so one of the legionaries who is actually kind of new to the Legion, his name was Zhang Sai. And he's not even from Tagoras, but he was like newly inducted.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Again, none of time to give him, uh, his POV throughout this book, which was really interesting. He manages to like curtail them and stop them like from going too far. So the white scars hold the space port. They don't venture out and go for revenge. And they, as they take there, the lion's gate, they shout for the. could go for the khan and it echoes throughout the halls that they have they are victorious the khan himself he is broken his body is stretched upon a leman rus who is like one other we followed the
Starting point is 01:52:37 tank crew throughout most of the book he is brought back eventually to malcador who they don't sense any life in his body but like there's like the tiniest thread of his soul is still there and the uh jacosai khan will know longer play any part in the rest of the siege but the, we'll say we'll end this episode with No kidding. Yes, he is taken by Malkador though. And the episode here will end
Starting point is 01:53:04 with the guns of the lion's gate space port opening up at Horace's fleet once again. And that is the end of the episode. Let's go. Oh, it's a long one. Appreciate it though, but that was. I was going to say, I'm pretty sure Jagatai doesn't actually die here, right?
Starting point is 01:53:22 He's pretty sure they do some stuff because, you know, people are expecting him to return. He does not really die, but essentially, I think it points the fact like he basically did. Like, if you dropped, I imagined it as if he dropped a penny on him or like you breathe on him too strong, he would die. The last bit of his soul goes, yeah. The last he is, that is basically saturnine, mortis and Warhawk. Please don't, please do read these books because I, Despite how amazing some of these scenes I've talked about are, I cannot bring them to life in the way that a lot of these authors have. Again, Mortis, maybe it's a bit of a skip.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I won't lie. I mean, you covered three books in two hours. Oh, geez, I overran. Not bad. Sorry. It's hard to convince. I was like, damn, you, you condensed three books into two hours. Went long.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I was like, damn. That is, that is a concise recollection of. of three books in two hours. Yes, it's also with the, with the podcast format itself, it's hard to do a lot of these things to the, the ability, like, I know if people are listening, if you are veterans of Situ Terror,
Starting point is 01:54:40 please do fill in any parts I didn't have time for because the people need to know. It's so good. The people must know. Bring me pictures of Spider-Man. And, yeah, goddamn, it's shy. with your, wow, it took a lot of effort.
Starting point is 01:54:54 A loyalist primark dead. Caldor Drago just called Mortarian by his name, instantly killed him and carved slurs into his heart. Shout to Possum who did help me with extra details on the script, man. I really appreciate it, man, because it's, uh, it's, it's, it's much easier with a, with a second eye on this stuff because you can miss pretty cool stuff, but I hope everyone is a chance. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. We've got some cool stuff for the next ones, though, which is, it will be echoes of eternity and a surmising of the actual battle of the end and the death three books. Because, funny enough, they are so long the end of the death books, like the last three. But in terms of actual, like, battle, they're like not as much happens. It's more like character plot stuff. But we'll just be covering more of the battle things.
Starting point is 01:55:45 And obviously, the emperor and horace. Hell yeah. All right. Well, Hal. one more next week. We'll see you next week. Thanks again for surmising all of it. A lot of stuff that we're not particularly
Starting point is 01:55:58 knowledgeable of because it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. So appreciate it. We'll see you all next week. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for watching.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Thank you. Of course. Peace. Bye.

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