Adeptus Ridiculous - SIEGE OF TERRA: THE END AND THE DEATH | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousIt has been 60+ books, nearly two decades of real-world time, but we are finally here. The Horus Heresy is over. ​In this 2 hour+ episode, Bricky and DK are joined by The Remembrancer for the last time (for this month) to tackle the absolute mountain of lore that comprises the final arc of the Siege of Terra: Echoes of Eternity and Dan Abnett’s The End and the Death. ​From Sanguinius holding the Eternity Gate against the World Eaters to the moment we’ve all been waiting for: the Emperor vs. Horus Lupercal. ​Support the show

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky, and we still have Hal the Amber King. You know what we're doing. But if you want to support the podcast monetarily, heading over to Patreon.com slash adeptis ridiculous, where you can get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen, $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in just the most immaculate form ever. You should check it out. Patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. How you doing, Bricky? Hey, you know, I'm doing pretty okay. I'm, uh, I'm, I'm having a good time.

Did you see they released, uh, they showed off an iron warriors warsmith today? I did not see that. I saw the iron warriors teaser that they did at the end of, um, whatever that big revealed show thing was, but I didn't see anything past that. Yeah, they got some new, uh, iron warriors named character Warsmith. And the dude is, uh, he, he's a, of, he's an industrial refrigerator on legs. he looks like a Gears of War character Oh he looks great though He does kind of look like a fridge

But he looks phenomenal I'm getting a giant subzero Fridge walking towards me I love yeah he does have that kind of like Mortal Kombat like mechanical subzero Oh that's I love it Oh no I meant sub zero it's a brand of fridge Oh I thought Mortal Kombat

Because he had like the Often we know brands I know I know specifically of the sub-zero brand because every time I ever go to a Best Buy, they're always like stacked along the walls. They're huge. Who goes to Best Buy anymore? I only ever go. Yeah, you're right.

I only ever go to Best Buy if I like need a cable now and I don't, and I can't wait for it in Amazon or something. I am so chronically online. I was like, well, why don't you just DoorDash Best Buy? Because you can do. All right, D.K., that, I, that's bad. Yeah. That's bad, DK.

You can't be doing that. We're going to have a talk later, okay? We're going to have a talk later. I'm just saying you can, all right. It's not about can. It's about should. I just, I know you can. I've never done it.

I just know you can, all right? I've never door dashed Best Buy. I just know you can. Goodness gracious. It's on the list. Anyway, all this aside. Yeah, so also go check out the freaking thing. What's the merch?

Right. It's the end of January, which means this is your last chance. this week to get the brand, well, not the brand new, but the old 2025 posters. Any of the posters with 2025 in their name, they will be gone by the end of the week. You want to grab those, grab them now.

And then, yeah, and then we'll be moving on to the good old year of 2026. Whoa! Hell yeah. I guess the new Necron one is 2026, right? We did that in 2026. How does that one work? Because did we do that at the end or did we do the beginning? Anyway.

Nah, that's the new, the new Necron one will stay because it's 2026. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. But yeah, that's what we got rolling. How? How are you doing? Doing good, man.

I've got, I'll say, for the people who are in this series, we are covering, of course, Siege of Terror. We've been the abridged version. We were doing it as more of a sort of primer for people to go and explore these. books. We've done two episodes so far. This is the last of the finale. We have missed out some of the novellas that come in between because yes, DW pump that money train, choochoo it never stops. But we got some, I mean, this is a big episode today. This is some integral law to Warhammer. We've got some really cool stuff I talk about. I'm very, very excited. Slight theme of the episode,

by the way. This is the Yu-Gi-O episode. And I'm not joking. Was it time to do all? No, but it's even more of a reference than you think. It's right on the money at some point. Again, for the veterans of the Sieger Terror Law, thank you again from the previous episodes for putting extra details I didn't have time for in the comment section. We're going to need that again,

because today we're doing as many of the side plots as I can that are within a reason. Also, of course, it's mostly the battle that we're focusing on, but we will talk about, particularly in what is today, echoes of eternity and all three volumes of the siege of terror. I won't write. You guys know,

it's always sunny in Philadelphia with Charlie and he has like all the red string and he has that. Pepe Sylvia, Pepe Sylvia. Yeah. The mail. You're talking about the mail, Mac. Yeah. That was me getting together this script. Shout to Possum for helping me tie it all together.

Oh, my God. My brain is fried. but I'm not going to waste like anyone's time any longer because we've got some really, really cool, cool shit to talk through. And are you guys ready? Hell yeah, brother.

Yeah, I'm good to go. Okay. I will begin with a small, well, actually, have two small quotes that I will read, which is, I was there the day Horace slew the emperor. Classical. Oh, yeah.

I mean, that's a classic. Classic. Because not only is it true, but it's funny because it's not referring to that. Well, funny that. We'll see how that goes. It wasn't referring to that at the time. No, we'll see.

We'll have another one because we have a big major plot that we need to talk about in the particular end in the death sort of trilogy at the end here. But we start with a ritual, which is Ash Barad, Shaku, Dubarakluk. Ashoku Gimbarakuk Ashaku Takakululuk Ashbazum is

Karambaktu This is One dark king No this is I have butchered The Lord of the Rings One Ring This is one dark king

To rule them all One king to find them One king to bring them all And in the darkness bind them This is This is Pone

I will begin this episode Oh, so good Was it Deasy? No, it's nothing important I was just like How the hell Shy how did you clock

That was black tongue? I only changed a few lines on it But it sounds Yeah, Lord of the Rings Shout to my Lord of Rings fans It was butchered heavily by me though I mean, I like the movies too

Well, I only like I haven't really read the books But like I wouldn't have I wouldn't have clock that I, I, Oh, the first thing I thought of Was a Dark Templar in Starcraft

It's pretty thought I was going completely rogue by the way, on the episode. That's hilarious. No, I know, I just, my first thought was the amount of times I've done dark Templar rushes and destroyed someone without any scans and just, they talk like that. I don't know what to say. Well, we're going to speak. Well, there's no more quotes like that, but it's going to be a very dark theme to this, I guess, this series and particularly this episode.

We're going to start with echoes of eternity, which I won't lie. It's very character storyline POV base. So I try to include a few of them in. But again, Ceditera gang, if you can help fill out some of the gaps, please do. And I've arranged it in timeline order. Because for some reason, in this book, there's flashbacks. And I'm going to go over them very briefly, which is, in timeline order, we follow Mr. Nassir Amit, which I think you guys have maybe covered in a flesh terrorist episode, haven't you?

Oh, he is super familiar. Yes, the original flesh terror himself. And he is, this is set during the Great Crusade when he's part of the Revenant Legion, which is their name before they were blood angels. And they are a bloody and ruthless legion. They eat their own dead to retain their memories. It's some really creepy scenes of like some of their old captains. They're still technically like, in quotes, alive because they keep eating the memories of them when they fall. So there's like weird incarnations there.

They have no regard for civilians whatsoever. And we see many, again, summing up quickly, we see many points of view of like who they were before Sanguineas. And then we cut forward again. We see Sanguinius meet the emperor of mankind. And he meets them on the deserts of Baal. Sanguinius has never seen their bloody starship at his entire life. and he meets the emperor on this desert plain,

obviously this irradiated waste of his homeland. And when the emperor speaks to him, obviously Sanguania's having prescience, he knew this day would come. And when the emperor speaks, or like, I think he says, like,

when he speaks to him, he speaks him in his mind in Sanguinius's language, which obviously the emperor would have never known before. But that's how, he says it's almost too perfect. That's how he knows he's like inside his head. And he says,

my son, which rhymes with my weapon, which rhymes with ninth, and it like coalesces into other concepts, like basically when the emperor speaks, like such as the power and he imbues in each of his words. And Sanguinius knows him as the death of faith. Because on Bal and Bal and Balphlora and other their little sort of chain of moons, they still have faith in this world. They obviously or I think not to go into devastation of Baal like concepts, but there's already like a weird faith of like angels and demons on ball that exists for millennia to come. And the emperor is like walking around San Guineas,

he touches his feathers with his hand. And San Guineas is like, is he going to kill me? Is he, you know what I mean? Like I've obviously got a mutation in some sense. I was about to ask. I didn't remember like when Sanguinius first met the emperor.

I was like, does he have his mutation yet or does he like get that later? he landed on ball with it yeah he didn't he only I guess when he meets his brothers I would assume that's when he realizes something is different about him and it's not probably

why am I the only one with wings but it's not of the emperor's design which is interesting it's obviously maybe when they are flung away by Erda spoilers for the previous episode again sorry spoilers for this episode for massively all the books has to be said again

sanguini's bargains that ball be left out of like his plans, like the emperor's plans. And the emperor does agree to a certain extent. And that's sort of like, again, like massively surmising that scene because it's very, there's like a war of minds going on between this. We then cut forward again in the timeline order, which is Sanguignas have been training with Horace for three years. And then he goes to meet his sons for the first time. Tarak Tallgaden and Abidon are there. They're like, oh, they're all chummy with Sanguinius. They've been hanging out. This is obviously early Great Crusade and Sanguania steps forward in front of this

legion of, you know, murderers, you know, cannibals and, you know, men who, I think he says in the book, their only pride is like the savage, like the pride of the savage left. And he starts to walk forward and he starts to ask their names. And he goes, what's your name? What's your name? He starts to memorize all of the names of his entire legion and he doesn't give up. And instead of like any other prime arc saying, I'm in charge, Sanguineas kneels and bows to them. And he says, I don't ask that I, you give me your oath. I give you my oath that you are the more experienced warriors and that I will learn from you. I only ask that you give me a chance.

And they basically tease the lunar walls near him being like, they say they can take the planet. I think we got this boys. And they all, like, there's a. There's a change. They like, they all stand a bit taller and they all have a new sense of pride. And then obviously, Sangunias would go to change their, you know, their temper, their temperament throughout the Great Crusade. So these are like the flashback scenes. Okay. Now we can once again turn to the siege of terror.

My boys, it, when I keep, I keep saying in the previous episode, it's like, oh, it's all ruins, it's utter chaos. It is truly gotten even worse. Terror, like all life around the globe of terror is dead. There's only the palace. Oh, hell. Yeah. But the imperial palace, everyone is dead. Wait, wait, wait.

Wait, I'm sorry. I need to be sure about this one. Are you saying that everyone outside of the palace on terror is dead? Everyone. Basically. That's wild. Everything, you know, they're gone. The siege lines, the fortification, you know, the great wars that we've seen in previous maps

and episodes, it's, it's all burning. Command structures, like so many captains and sergeants have died on both sides that it's just whoever's like, you know what I mean, like, whoever essentially takes command in the moment, they're in, they're in charge. The traitors roam about as war bands with demons like stalk the mists. And I was going to ask guys, like, before we get into kind of the nitty gritty of this episode, I had a question for you guys, I thought we start off a bit lighter, which is, what's something you generally love about Warhammer law? Like how fucking, like how shit it is. Not in terms of quality, though that is sometimes the case.

I just, I will never live down the one comment on my, on my Twitch channel, which will always state, uh, local orange county white boy with a loving family, desperate to feel negative emotions. I will never live that one down. And it's so accurate. I just, I love how often I get to have like a tragic ending. Everything sucks all the time. And I like the fact that they do a really, mostly do a pretty decent job at showing every faction's degradation. Everything is not what it used to be.

And it's stagnation is a huge part of it. And so I like that. I think, I think it's a very interesting way. to not only set themselves up for a theme, but also you can always pull something out of your ass. Like, oh, why is this one Imperial Guardsman commander so powerful? Well, because he has the Delectorum dictoratum, which is a piece of power armor from the dark age technology

that makes him never die and he explodes in fire. Like, you can just do that, and that's fun. What about you, D.K., what do you like that? Or even you say, dare I say love, like what makes it, you go, damn, that's amazing. I guess it's kind of similar, but I like how there's, like, nothing's ever off the table.

Like, they're not like, oh, we need to be a little more PG. We can't have a, granted, was the demon collaba a good idea? Probably not. But it's like, well, nothing's ever really off the table. Like, so I, I kind of like that they will go to,

like, crazy depravity. But then, like, there's also, like, these moments of, like, super heroism and like sanguineous being like best boy ever and like so i i kind of like that you know nothing's ever really like no we're not going to do this i think it just briefly for me i'd even say not every novel but quite a lot of them have a very good fundamental understanding of humans in war in general and i think that despite it being a fictional universe where we play plastic toys.

It generally has some hard-hitting moments. It's like a trifectar of it. It's tragic. It's awesome. And then I say expenses, probably the third one. But like, yeah, epic and tragic is the, is the theme that I, like, draw myself towards. Maybe, Shai, do you want to let us know as well?

You can, we'll read out your one if you had a good answer. It's quite a difficult question I like, but I think people, maybe put people up in the common section as well let us know what you guys like love about Warhammer in general because people can be negative about lots of things so you know a bit of positivity and then I'm not saying now the negative will begin again shortly

but well shy definitely doesn't have anything good to say right now but no person shy as typing is popping up that's right we'll read it when it comes to it but but you know before shys

we'll get to your answer if you have that they're shy But going back to the siege, we do follow some world eaters. We follow apothecary carcass. Oh, here we go. Shai says, I effing love war. I love killing people for money and destroying cultures and history. Wow. Okay.

Yeah, that's a shy answer, right? Yeah, that's a big fan. Whenever you see Shai's typing, everyone kind of collectively holds their breath and just waits for the bomb to draw. I love killing people, new Iron Warriors miniature. Let's go. I love killing people. I love running over my own cultists with my own rhinos so I can gain 0.3 second advantage on the loyalists.

She is an orc lover. That's not, that that is definitely something an orc would do. It's very kill name burn, isn't it? Speaking of kill name, burn. Cargos. Apothecary Cargoss, who he's been like a character, like a kind of a side character throughout some of the heresy books. He's, he was a friend of Khan and he's the one who found

Khan's body and he found him kneeling with no weapon in his hand which to like the superstitious you know lords of the red sand world eaters it's considered a very dishonorable death and he kind of like secretly like puts a weapon in Khan's hand because obviously Sigisman killed him in the last episode Cargos the reason we're following Cargos is because he was once a chain brother to Nassia Amit during the great crusade they're actually friends and they have like they have some in the flashback stuff. They have some very touching scenes. Cargos, well, turns out there's a refugee throng, like running away. Cargos and the world did just show up? And then they get attacked by Amit's and some blood, Amit and some blood angels. Cargoss is like lost in his blood, like, craze.

And then they end up dueling. And Amit ends up winning. He slices Cargoss's throat. And he tells him, I think the one of the few times they kind of swear in Warham Books, he just, he literally says, eat shit traitor and just like slaps him down. So that's a, but Cargos, I will say, he's not out for the count. He just got his throat slit and you're saying he's not at balance for hammer.

You'd be surprised what a world eater can survive. Yeah. Well, he, don't worry. He's got more coming. Back to the throne room. So we're in the sanctum imperialist now, which we're going to refer to a map in a little bit here. And I've got a very cool map to show,

which is currently the emperor, obviously through the attacks of horrors throughout the warp and other weird like mythology style like scenes, his power has been weakening. And there's a new line of attack because I don't, again, like maybe if we do in the future,

there's in episode four to talk about, possibly like the side novellas, because in a side novella, Magnus the Red fell to chaos. And I don't have, I don't even have time to explain how that happened, but Demon Primark Magnus the Red is attacking from the Webway, and it's weakening the Emperor's power even more.

I think I remember how he fell to chaos. Yeah. He made some bad bets that didn't go so great, and then this jock came in and beat the shit out of him. Yeah. Bane back broke him. Yeah. Also, one of his sons decided to cast this rubric that was a bit of a...

Yeah. It's not great. Dude, you're lucky to have missed the entire Magnus the Red and his sons in the warp side plot. So they actually ended up at the sea to terror. So fighting alongside. Yeah, isn't he under undergrounds and isn't someone sent out to go stop him like Vulcan or something? That's exactly what I'm getting to. Vulcan.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Magnus has, he wasn't a demon primark. He was actually trying to get into the, okay, very briefly, he actually managed to get into the throne room. And then the emperor, like, offered him a chance to basically join him again. but then he had to like let his sons die because they were all corrupted by chaos. And Magnus was like, what do you mean let my sons die? And then that's when he got wrecked by Vulcan.

Vulcan beat him to death, basically. And he took a bargain by Zinch and then turned into a demon primark. That's a very small rendition of it. Vulcan is on terror, by the way. Vulcan managed like with Eldrad's help, you know, Mr. Elves finally do something. they managed to get he managed to get Vulcan to terror and Vulcan has created this doomsday device called the talisman of seven hammers and he was possessed by the emperor when it happened so he attaches this to the golden throne and if the loyalists lose it will implode

terror in itself and it will deny Horace the victory essentially so that's why Vulcan is here because only he can activate it because they only trust Vulcan to do it yeah i remember us talking about this thing before. At being like one of the doomsday devices that's, what is it now? Does he still have it or is it like hidden under the throne or something now? Or this sounds super familiar.

The emperor has a billion random like this will kill everyone in the galaxy devices or something that are being held by the shadow keepers. I think Magnus is going for a part of his soul though, if I recall correctly. Magnus is

like he's a temp, he was going for a shard, Magnus was broken by Lehman Russ into shards of himself, and the thousand sons helped him, like, coalesce back into almost his full being, but then the last shard was turned into the first grandmaster of the Grey Knights, and it was out of his reach, so he was never going to find it. Yeah, so the Magnus has turned into the worst version of himself. He's a zinche worshipper, and they know, like, well, Malcador, custodian diocletian, who's one of the emperor's like, you know, I think he's Hecaton. He's like one of the closest guardians. And Vulcan, they agree, like, they need to stop Magnus. He's, you know, the emperor's weakening

even faster. And so Vulcan's going to enter the webway in search of like to hunt down Magnus. And like, Magnus has been like speaking, like, whispering to Vulcan being like, you know, trying to tempt him away because he thinks that's going to work. Porras finally speaks. He has been silent to the most of the traitor. forces like the entire time and he finally gets on the Vox and he says one command which is we're going to attack eternity and now I'm going to refer you guys in fact I'm going to post it again I'll try my best for the audio listeners this is the current map of the siege of terror this is called the imperial palace undone and we can see in the I can see in the reference if you guys

remember from the previous episode we had like the outer wall and then there was an intersection of And then there was like the Sanctum Imperialis here. Eternity Wall, Eternity Gate, sorry, is, uh, if I'm just talking about the central block of the sanctum imperialis, it is like a sort of basically like almost like a church, like a cross, a cross, very subtle cross shape. At the very like bottom tip of the cross, we have the eternity gate and obviously like the eternity cross rows and other parts.

Uh, they're very, like just below that on the map. It's very hard to see here, but there's a, Bastion called Bab Bastion, which is where lots of the command structure has been happening from. The hegemon is like the massive, like central plaza. And deep below the sanctum imperialis is the golden throne. There's other fortifications around it. There were there. Now they're gone.

It's just debilitating into, you know what I mean? Like, again, Tibet has been ruined, basically. It's getting worse. Yeah. Is, um, on this map, is it just for flare that those, uh, war, portals are there or has things gotten so bad that they're like those are actual like giant warp portals surrounding the uh the walls spoilers because kind of yes oh okay i was like that could be for like just artistic flair to make it look cool and be like whoa ho ho this not looking good for our our heroes

and then i was like oh things could be bad enough that yep those are actually just warp portals and demons are just pouring out and, yeah, I mean, we will say terror is like soil and other, like it's all dead, like the world is basically, they understand like it will never fully, it'll never be what it once was, it'll never fully recover.

It'll never be a green planet again. Yeah, not even a chance. And below, like, it's very hard to see on this current map. I do have some other maps I can actually indicate for the, uh, you guys here, but I'll do my best as well for the audio listeners, because we

had it on this one, which is a previous match, which was called Sanctum Imperialis Palatine. That was a closer representation of what it looked like before, with the Martal Bastion surrounding it. We have Shaill, we have Golgotha and other ones. Bastion is a massive command center where the Imperial Feastardamus, like basically Dawn's protege and Dawn, they run most of the siege from there because it's a command structure.

Dawn and his staff mentioned, like, there's so many traitors here. Like, even Babassian itself is being besieged at the same time. And obviously, Horace has given this final command, which he says, everybody attack eternity. Because there's no, like, cohesiveness anymore. It's just all debilitated. I will say there is some really cool scenes of, like, when Dawn is speaking to Sanguinius.

And, like, because Sanguinius is the warrior. He's always out fighting. He's always, like, coming back. And he's having to, like, people take spears out of his side and, you know, like, repair, like, bullet holes in his armor. and he's relentlessly being maintained because like his hair is slick with blood

because he's having to continuously fight and he says at one point like Rogel says you need to defend eternity wall and eternity gate because they're coming and Dawn is awkward because he doesn't really know how to like well the Khan from the previous episode we learn is they think he's dead

they basically think Khan is dead and Fanguinius like kind of smiles and he says goodbye Rogal or so farewell Rogal and he says if we do not meet again in the flesh know that it was an honour being your brother and then Dawn doesn't know how to respond because he's an awkward bastard

again getting it quick out the way with a good old side plot sorry subplot from the Master of Mankind do you remember the blood angel Zephon he was the guy who has like We fucking love Zephan Yeah we love Zephan

Yeah On's awesome Well he almost died in the book saturnine we wouldn't have time to get a hold of but he's been brought back from near death by Arcan land who has found him again and he has like his three serfs who were like a mother like a dad and son and they all like work for Arcan land they help bring Zephon like back from near death and they also had joined Nassir Amit's group who were defending that like civilian throng earlier and he met Amit there and that's where Cargos got you know sliced

and everyone is rushing towards eternity. Everyone is pulling back. Again, people are dying in droves. It's ridiculous. Sanguinius arrays. So if I refer people back to the grand map again, even on the last year, you can kind of see, they call it the Delphic Battlement,

which is the walls around the sanctum imperialis. Because Sanguinius needs to basically array a massive defense, or haphazardly, because they said, a attack is coming at dawn. and they quickly need to shove a group together. And whilst this is happening as well, they get in contact with the dark angels, we briefly mentioned the LARPS episode, which was Corswain's group, which they're the ones who they drop potted down with the emperor's ships like sacrifice and then they landed near the Astronomicon. And they're trying to get that relit. And they're wondering, should we break out and come help, you know, defend the inner sanctum?

And then it's like, there's no point. Get the Astronomicon up. Get Gilemon's fleet up. And, you know, so they can see us because it's really like terror is being swayed and blocked, you know, from basically any direction at this point. And basically, the final assault will begin at dawn. And from the sky, tendrils of the warp begin to curl down from the vengeful spirit. They sweep over terror.

And the order immediately comes. to every loyalist who is still alive, do not look up because you will go mad. So, does the ship sprouting this stuff, or it's like a portal around the ship? It, like, emanates from Horace's power. Gotcha.

Okay. I will say, Horace is like, he's talking to himself again. He's, he's like having a weird inner monologue. And we see here, dawn rises the next day,

and there is a horde of millions. I'm sorry. Dorn or dawn. Don. Don. Okay. In English, in English accent, it's the same word. This is one of the few things where this does make a difference. Yeah, Don and Dorn makes it, yeah.

In Don, the next day, a horde of mutants in the millions. Like what he says are like a southern accent. Well, and Don. It's very hard to do your accent. And then the Don Razz is in the city. I just love specifically how you. went directly to a good Southern boy for your dawn thing. Oh my God, it's Horace, you know.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Horace Horace. Looper Cal has come to Tara. We stand a bad king. Oh, my God. Well, lightning up and then dimming it right back down again, the millions, I mean, millions of mutants, demons, astarties, and tainted creatures of the war,

they are arrayed. before the eternity, like, gate a little bit back. There are, we find out what they were doing in the night, because you could hear horrifying noises. Turns out any loyalists kind of stuck near them, they've been crucified, and they've been pinned to banners and vehicles, and they're screaming and wailing as the loyalists

who were like, the defenders on the Delphic Battlement and the gate, they look out and they're like, oh my God, and they're looking in pure horror. A lone titan called the daughter of torment steps forward I was the DOSI area again Not quite, not quite There is a mutilated blood angel

Captain Edomass Who's known to Sanguineus He's like a mutilated His eyes are missing It's like in the palm of this Titan And if blasting from the titan it gives out a message Which is

Horus offers pardon to the people who lay down their arms, because soon he will land on terror himself. And, like, this is to shake people's resolve, because, like, you know, after months of desperate death and destruction, Sanguonius flies up, and he has an answer of his own. And I will say, Bricky, would you read me out this excerpt? It's a bit of a chunky one.

Sure. As we mentioned before this episode, people will kill us if we don't at least get some of this out, Oh, whoa. Okay. The first one. Yeah. All right. All right.

We have, this is, this is less than half of it. Oh my God. Okay. So, so Senguinius flies up right after the, the back end of Horace. He says, I do not want to be here. Sanguinius told them, I do not want this present. And I want the future that follows even less. We stand against our own brothers and sisters with our backs to the eternity gate.

And this is not a battle we can win. If you have ever. wondered how you will die, now you know. If you have ever wondered where your body will lie, now you know. You will be killed on the last wall between hope and horror. Your body will lie here unburied, staring up at a poisoned sky. They are too many, we are too few. And it falls to me here and now to tell you to stand against him one more time. To give everything you have, even your lives, if it will hold this rampart for another day, another hour, another second. That is what this moment, sorry, crap, I was so close.

That is what the moment demands of me, is it not? That I beg you to make one last sacrifice? No. Senguinius fairly breathe the worm. If you wish to fall back into the sanctum imperialis and spend the last hours of life with your children, then do so. Know that you go not only with my blessing, but with my envy. But someone must stand and fight.

And if I have but one choice left, I will make it now. I will stand. I will fight. I will hold this wall. Whether I am alone or whether a hundred thousand of you are by my side. I have spoken enough. You need hear no more of my fears and confessions. All that remains is for me to ask, will you run?

No, cried the defund. defenders of the wall. They rejected the Primark's offer with a gestalt sound of vocal thunder. No, no, no. I like how they just make sing the perfect guy. He's just the best. He's the best because they're like, well, we're going to kill him anyway. So we're just going to make him like the best guy ever.

Yeah, this is the last you'll see him and he's just going to be the best. And you're going to wish he came back, but we're never going to bring him back. Oh, man. What a chat. shout to Epicus on YouTube who's in a very good rendition of that speech and it is a speech that will

bo-um-bum echo through eternity literally because they tell Horace no people the humans will not people will not give up their last moments of happiness they are standing ready to fight

meanwhile Vulcan is journeying through the ruins of the Webway City. The same one that we saw, or you previously had done in Master of Mankind, it is like a, again, not enough time to go into that full breakdown of that, but it is a very weird and like sort of esoteric and dusted and, you know, a place that's long, long dead. And he eventually finds Magnus, which, again, because there's so many like character arcs, and it's not like the main battle. So we're long story short, Magnus kills Vulcan.

again and again and again because Vulcan is a perpetual and he keeps coming back so every time Magnus is victorious Vulcan and he's like he's pleading with Vulcan you know shows him like old prosper and Vulcan counters back like you're a coward when Lehman Russ arrived you could have said something but no you thought you were so honorable so you know such a sacrificial peace you'd even try but he says that you brought this upon yourself in some sense because you think it's all about you to which the demon primark Magnus says of course it's all about me

I'm the most valuable piece on the board so that's how he really felt the entire time it ends with Vulcan doesn't have like a because usually don't perpetuate well I guess it depends on the story who's writing it in which you need them for I always thought the perpetuals had a little bit more of a respawn timer but then again you know

I mean, it's not quick. It happens over the entire book, but, like, Vulcan just keeps coming back. And eventually, with the help of the emperor who, I believe at one point, like, he actually is seen to have wiped some of Vulcan's memories or, like, altered them with how, like, when he and Magnus, like, last fought at the throne room. So he ends up, like, he smacks his hammer right into the core of demon Magnus, and he banishes him, banishes him into the war. as this is happening the battle for eternity and the Delphic Wars begins it describes it as a

literal wall of fire slamming into the onrushing traitor hoard like tens of thousands are dying in the immediate rush Cargos the apothecary of the worldies who we saw earlier he's here he can't speak anymore because obviously

he had his throat ear he attacks Arcan Land and he kills the monkey, guys. He kills the monkey. Not the monkey. Are you kidding me? He kills the monkey. It's a most tragic death in the whole thing so far.

Yeah. It kills the monkey. So Amit finds him again and finally puts him down. Absolute win there. Sanguania beheads the titan that gave Horace's speech. And the battle goes on for days and they are slowly being pushed back towards this gate. When from the stormy is. sky mighty

cabanda Mr. D. A good old demon of corn. He has been sent. He is pledged to kill 500

blood angels for making up for his loss to Sanguinius earlier in the horror's heresy. So him and him and Sanguania's begin an epic,

like crazy battle. I wish I had more time to talk about that one. The bloodthirster. Yeah. Sanguonius takes wounds while this is happening,

but he ends up banishing Kibanda once again back into the warp. Thousands and thousands of the loyalists, millions of the traitors have died, and he can sanguine here's the gates behind, they start to close. Thousands of imperial fists, white scars, blood angels, other mortals, they are still outside, though many are still inside. And basically, they retreat the closest ones to the gate, and they see. seal the doom for those who are outside.

And as the moment of the gates, like, are closing, Angron appears. Angron, Ray, rockets from the sky. And by throughout the book, like, Horrors has been, like, speaking to Angron, like, basically dominating his mind, being like, he'll bring me Sanquinus's head and stuff like that. Sanguinness and Angron.

I have to, I have to ask, is this the part when Angron got chucked out of the nightfall or was that way earlier? That was, he, He broke out the nightfall. That's like the first time he lands on terror. He couldn't the nightfall to contain him. Sorry, because once you have told me again, mind you, that Ingron is rocketing out into the ground. I should say the entire series of terror, he's just been flying around like killing people.

Like he's just like this whole thing. Very ingrown. I assume that, but I didn't know if he was once again contained. Yeah. And he's shut out into the world again. One does not simply contain Angron. They begin an air duel, though. And Sanguinius is faster, but obviously a few hits from Angron is absolutely like tearing wounds and like ripping guts from Sanguania.

They are both covered in blood during their duel. Sanguania tries to run away at some point. And then Anguania starts, like he lands, he slams down and he starts killing blood angels. So then Sanguidius returns and they end up having this duel on the ground. And one of my favorite parts is that Angron starts to panic because he starts to feel something on his, like, his, and his scalp and in his brain. Sanguinius has grabbed his butcher's nails and is starting to heave. He sees in Sanguineas a rage and not like his rage, but a pure, like undiluted rage, a rage born of, you know, enacting. justice or something like a true rage, like a defender of one's family.

Like he sees something that he could never possess that Sanguinius has. And Angron mulling and wailing begs for mercy as he hears the laughter of corn as Sanguinius rips the butcher's nails out of his head and his like scalp comes off and he gets banished into the war. Holy shit. I didn't know that happened. I didn't know that sanguini. has had father rage of like, oh, you, you touched my wife, you touched my child, and just

he ripped the butcher's nails out of his damn head? Yeah, it is a crazy thing. I believe, is it, LJ. Hot Cole has done an amazing artwork for that one as well. It's so cool in the book. And if you are bad enough to get Angron to beg for his life, wow. It's also kind of, you're kind of removing. something really specific to.

Like the removal of the butcher's nails is kind of like an identifying feature of Angron. Oh, yeah. I feel like it's also quite a, um, kind of like a, well, obviously a mental blow, but like a, like a soul thing. You know, it's like, I assume because in the book, when I say begging, I mean like he starts being pathetic and he's like, he's not like, you know, the honorable, whatever gladiator, whatever you suppose. The rage-filled demon that never feels anything, right? He's actually brought down low. I was to say personal loss because the butcher's nails is like off of his brain a little bit. It's because maybe that's like he's able to be a bit more sentient, who knows.

That's not canon. That's just my take on why he's seemingly a bit pathetic towards the end. And obviously, corn does not care from which the blood flows. So corn's giggling like an asshole because he's just like, oh, there we go. Oh, there he goes. The blood, the world eaters, when their prime mark is banished, they just go crazy and they start killing people around them. There was like a word bearer asshole in this book. He was like, like, he's with cargo so most of the book, and he was such an ass, and he was like toying with him.

And then he gets killed by world eaters because they don't recognize anything anymore. They could, they fully gone. And finishing up on this echoes of eternity, again, seizure terror veterans, please add in more details where I didn't have time. We did have a subplot of Latara sin. Do you remember her from betrayal? Oh, of course we do. Yeah, brother. Don't you worry.

Oh, yeah. We've memed that so hard to death that honestly, I'm a little annoyed with myself in my past version of me. But yes, we are very aware of Latara. She's a very good character. There was a subplot in this book where, well, it begins with like, she throws up blood and fingers. It's not her fingers. She doesn't know who it is. Weird that part.

She's haunted by like the ghost corpse of Khan And throughout the book she's like Essentially been trying to contact fleets Even speak to Horace and other parts Like she's been trying to like Make traitor cohesion happen again She does actually speak to Horace She gets through to him

And she eventually discovers like This isn't Latara Sin Like this is the ghost of Latara Sin Emerging from like I've assumed the machine spirit in the conqueror. The ghost of Khan isn't even there, like a real thing. Khan is not here. He's dead.

And I believe the Khan ghost says, I hate it every time you realize you're not alive because then you scream. So the Tarasin is probably merged, either merged into the conqueror or long dead at this point. He's an echo of her. Is it Sarin, S-A-R-R-I-N? Is it L-A-S-R-R-I-N? It might be. Again, my pronunciation here might be Lataris-S-R-R-S-R-S-E-E-E.

Yeah, it might be, my parents say it a lot, but like, she is, yeah. That's just a weird. That's just a weird part of that book. But that is, that's echoes of eternity. And now we're getting, we get to the big block, which I said the big block. I've managed to condense this down quite a lot. We are, I don't even know how to describe this. I'm going to have to give you guys another map because it's not going to make sense.

And again, I will try my best for the audio listeners, particularly because this one is kind of very difficult to describe. It's going to begin like this. Check out the YouTube. Yes, I'll say I'll describe it for the best I can for the audio listeners. Essentially, very lightly just mentioning, terror, the vengeful spirit, and the warp merge. And that's what I'm going to say initially. Oh, that's what we're looking at on this map. Yeah.

I was like, what the fuck is this? The siege of terror is technically over, because this is the siege of something else. Everything is broken. I was like, oh, he gave us a map of the vengeful spirit. This is where Horace's ship looks. Oh, no. Yeah. So the end of the death begins with, like, everything is broken.

With the vengeful spirit as a conduit and, like, for Horace's power. Like, everything is merging and condensing. time itself stops working. Clocks don't move. Nothing ticks. Time is dead. They are in a weird mix of material space and the war. All of the soul system is sealed off.

It is like essentially it's like it's almost over. Like in this, there's nothing outside of this. There's only this pocket. There's only terror, the warp, the vengeful spirit. And then it gets even we see at some parts, the fighting just devolves. Locations and distance don't mean anything anymore.

We see parts where Mr. Garvey-a-Loccan, he's still like going around. By the way, he's just like killing people, like left, right and center. These guys are actually a boss in this whole book. He takes a, he walks a small distance and he realizes he's on the other side of the palace, which is not possible. Like nothing is, everything is next to each other and a million, miles apart. Horace is fully mad. He starts giving his renditions of his history and his opinions to Mercedes-Ollerton and Malagherst. They are dead. He keeps speaking to Mercedes-Olletton,

like, oh, you remember, you know, remember that I was a graceful and, you know, I was very arrogant in my youth. He is speaking to no one. Yeah, he, um, he, um, he, killed her. Yeah. Because she knew much, right? She, she died in part one of this series

with the whole Samus basically. Oh, wrong one there. Yeah. Was you afraid to heal her that he killed? I think he was one of the,

because she knew too much about everything. And he was like, well, sorry. She was, she was the, false gods. That's the lady who was his

personal remembrance. Yes. Mm-hmm. I forget her name. She, she had the, Hedella Viva. Viva.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. She had the guy, the, um, the... That became a pseudo-space marine, right? And he could... The assistant with the anathema blade or whatever, but he wouldn't speak. He doesn't speak. Mm-hmm.

That was this thing. Mal... Yeah, something like that. Yeah, something like, I was going to say Malacath, but that's the dog from Eldon Ring. My God. My God. I think I was... Yes.

I think so. He was, I remember it was cool. Because I remember in particular, he was really annoyed because he was, like, also like a concubine or something for her. Yeah. because she was really rich and he was like, you goddamn bitch. Yeah, it was kind of funny. This is,

this is not her. This is, Mercedes Ollerton is dead. Malagurst died during the Horace heresy. He has, Horace has another equerry who's, oh, I guess it'll be a new character,

you guys, but he's a guy who's named Argonus, who by the way, is terrified to speak or like go near Horace. He's like, he's an Astartis who shakes with fear when he sees Horace. Horace himself,

in the vengeful spirit, holds court to the mightiest demons of chaos. Samus is there. Bellacour, Kabunda, like Chairos, like every, like big name demon and some demons are like kind of hints to other cool parts of lore, even other series and settings.

They hold court and they watch from the shadows as, you know, as Horace's triumph is happening. And then the vengeful spirit, the shields, like it's weird that there's like, this merging that's on the map, this is happening in real time. So, like, whilst this is happening, the shields of the vengeful spirit were lowered.

And, like, weirdly enough, like, horrors as well, like, when he speaks, he still thinks it's the Great Crusade at parts. And he's like, but I know Gilliman's coming. And he's like, but also want to bait out the emperor to attack me. That's why he lowers the shields. And then it's like, again, it's just madness. There are other parts as well. I will, I will, you know what I said is the Ego episode. throughout the book, like different characters, they interact with the tarot deck,

which is like, it's kind of a thing in a little bit in 40K, but it's, yeah, they kind of, they scry it and they try to like understand stuff because of like cyclically active cards or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And they are a lot, they're using it quite a lot in this particular end in the deaf, like volumes. And there's a new card that comes up in the deck and no one has owned this card before. it is called the Dark King demons on terror

when like the desperate people are fighting in zones in places they don't understand how they can be next to each other demons whisper the name dark king and that the emperor must die it's a chant of the traitors

that the emperor must die and they people start to believe different characters are coming to the idea that Horace is accumulating so much war power he's going to become a fifth

chaos god, a god of destruction and war essentially, well, not quite like murder and call, but like basically a chaos god of humanity in a way in which like Sanesh is the chaos god of the elder. What a, oh, yeah. Wouldn't, in a sense, wouldn't there be a situation in which, um, the other four chaos gods would try to not want that? Wouldn't they want to try to stop that? I will have been

40K gods are all still vying in technically the great game or is that just a or is that just a fantasy thing? No, they're vying. Okay, cool, cool. But it might be like they've almost swel horrors with too much power.

Kind of like they did with like a, if you know, bellicol law, they omitted that with him. But the emperor, Malcador, wounded sanguinius, Valdor, dawn.

And I should say, crawling slowly back from the webway, like as a charred skeleton and then eventually making it, Vulcan, they have a council and they agree to take this opportunity to attack Horace because they don't, they, there's messages coming in that Vol like Gileman's fleet is nearby. It's not reaching them. Sanguineus goes to speak to the emperor, just one on one. And the emperor notices that he has wounds from Angron that are not healing. He might die from these. And he says like, Maybe Sanguinian should stay, but Sanguinity is like, no, I'm going to go.

I've always foreseen, you know, my prescient death at Horace's side, but I believe I can change fate. Fate is never sealed. So they have a weird turnaround where they say, time has stopped. Therefore, like, our defeat has not happened because time is not continuing on. So we have time always to change things. I didn't get that part in the book, but that's literally Dan Abner is as a probably a mind above mine. I mean, that kind of makes sense. If time doesn't move forward, how do you lose?

You're always in the same moment of conflict. So, yeah, it makes sense. And Malkador, like, they're basically, I wouldn't say drawing straws, but they're going to assemble teams to do this. Malkador will make, he's preparing to ascend the golden throne to let the emperor take a chance to go fight. And as a cool part, it's not my note, but I remember it from the novels in which, The emperor wasn't, like, sitting back and doing nothing. Like, Malkador learned, I think, at one point that the emperor's actually been helping the people. He's been, like, sending psychic signals to people to warn people of threats.

He was commanding, like, subtly. The emperor was fighting the seizure terror the entire time. He never stopped. Yeah. And he makes a little, like, sigil. He uses, like, his saliva. He makes a sigil mark on custodian Calcestus, who will basically preparing to go for this, essentially, this. kill this spear tip.

I'll say before we get into the actual, basically the end game now, which is, I'll ask you guys a question, which is, what's a core memory that you have of redeptus ridiculous? I thought something, something light for this very grinned dark episode. A core memory of had. Yeah. I'm a tank. I'm a tank. I'm a tank.

I'm a tank. I says curse little guy. I was thinking little guy is pretty up there. The little guy stuff is pretty up there. I will say this is actually not even a whole. Warhammer one. There's a really top 10 part

IMO we're doing hell diver lore and I have D.K. read the hell diver lore on the Illuminate. And the first sentence is we believe the Illuminate have weapons of massed structure

and then you couldn't even finish the sense. I could not, man. I had to do a spit tank. That one, oh man. That one got me pretty good. I'm not going to lie.

That one was pretty up there. But honestly, I'd say little guy. little guy was pretty... Fair. It's pretty hefty. Oh, well, speaking of all, you know, nice memories, because we're about to make some horrible ones here.

The Loyalists, I'm not going to lie, this. I found some of these parts, like pretty brutal, which is the Loyalists are preparing kill teams to teleport on the Venture spirit. And everyone's like, oh, Horace has gone insane. What's Horace doing? Horace is not insane. Valdole's team land into a part of the Venetor's

vengeful spirit. I believe they say it's like deck eight. There are six decks on the vengeful spirit. There should not be a deck eight. They are immediately the walls swarm with pus and flesh and eyes and then demons flood them immediately. Sanguineas and his blood angel. Everyone starts teleporting. Like it goes wrong. The teleport strike. Everyone is far away from each other. it's a trap Sanguania's and his bloodeners arrived the closest to the throne room

and they roar forward they slammed like sons of Horace forces who are guarding basically Horace Dawn if I refer to you guys back up to what was the one I think it was yeah

it's the eventual spirit slash weird map can you if you see I'll just go out for the audio listeners which is on the very bottom of this weird esoteric combination map

you'll see on the bottom left there says Pratorian of Terror. Yeah. Dawn. Yeah. Dawn. He lands in a desert. Oh, yeah. I can see. He's got this like like area outside of it.

That is really weird. Oh, I thought that was just showing where I thought that was just showing the players. I didn't realize that's actually where he was in relation. Oh. You can see on the map actually like so the top Ryan Corny's like the fleshy area where Valdo lands. Yeah. Yeah.

and the emperor is like in this weird maze of like this place and dawn dawn's story this is a crazy part in this story where like dawn ends up in this desert and he's alone none of his imperial fists like came with him and he sees like the rusting corpses of his sons who have died throughout the horror's heresy like he sees men who he recognized their armor and he's like I know you died long ago and dawn starts to wander because he's like there's this weird wall, but he can't go around it and he can't go over it. Every time he goes over it, it doesn't work. He tries to outrun the desert. The desert never ends. Dawn wonders for decades. He wanders for centuries. He repeats the mantra, I am Rogal Dawn. So he does not. But

then eventually he begins to forget his name. There has been nothing for him to do. He's wondering for what seems like, you know, time doesn't mean he's. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's Yeah, time does it exist. So he literally is wandering for what feels like hundreds of years. He cannot perceive, like, the perception he has compared to others is that it is centuries of nothingness. He almost forgets what war he was even fighting in. And then, like, over time, he starts to begin to, like, hear this whisper.

There's this voice in the head, like, a little silently, it's all temptingly. And it says, say the thing. It's like, what do you mean? Say the thing. Blood? Yeah, blood for the. And then it just ends there. Oh, who's doing this to him.

And I'll say at this point, in tandem, the emperor and half of the custodians that were doing this mission, they arrive in a trap. And I've got an excerpt for you, D.K., which is to explain exactly what happens when they emerge into a space with the most concentrated, most chaotically divine warp energy that has ever existed. And this is what happens. This is excerpt number two. All right. A vision of a Oh, okay. A vision of atrocity, of heresy, of natural law undone and duty desecrated.

Of the most shameless infidelity. A king turned on by his royal guard. A monarch, surprised and betrayed by the ones he trusted most, a Caesar, butchered by the captains he never thought to doubt. Sentinels, Tyrask, and Sistratus thrust at their master with guardian spears, firing their integrated bolters. All the custodies alive are all screaming and writhing. It is no longer in torment or grief. The trap Horace Lays is an energy and a walk kale so pure that half of the custodies fall to the ground, screaming, blood coming from their ears and eyes, the other half turn on the emperor and attack him. It is thought they were uncorruptible to their core. Horace has shown,

he has done this to the emperor to show that this is not true. And the emperor has to start killing the creations he made personally. And it's pretty brutal. They love to see they're custodians. So he starts to kill them. And then some of them, like, they throw him around the room, they stab him, and then he uses his warp lightning to kill some more. He beheads, like, he shows like he's in pain, and the emperor for the first time shows his fury as he is forced to kill those who he perhaps loved most in this universe. And the emperor kills the, like the corrupted custodians and the ones who are alive. He examines them to their, the core of their being. and they get up.

There's only a few of them left, and they follow the emperor, who is now pissed. He was now starting to absorb warp energy that has been thrown at him in this room, and he's swelling with power mighty and even during the Great Crusade, and he's, I'm going to go attack Horace.

Yeah, I'm sure he's a little, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I think it was pretty in that, I can't do that justice compared to the book version of that, but it is like, oh, it's like, I didn't even really like, again, I thought Cosolians were incorruptible, but obviously considering it's the Cedar Terror. Yeah, I was going to say, if ever you were going to pull out the, yeah, they're mostly uncorruptible except for this rare instance. This is the time to do it. I mean, I mean, Tara, all that chaos horrors, yeah.

I do love that. I don't know. My mind immediately goes to a bunch of Custody's fans being very upset at this. It was a controversial. I do it. I knew it. Um, there's always the, uh, well, my people are incorruptible type thing, uh, and that's whole, but I mean, there, there is, you know, you know what, how we talked earlier about signably like about Warhammer lore, right? And one of my, one of my things I actually like the most about Warhammer lore is that very rarely if ever, is there a scenario where something is dealt in an absolute. Like, everything can be beaten with either enough guns or willpower. Like, oh, like pretty much everything. in the entirety of Warhammer can be beaten with enough firepower or enough like mental fortitude.

And it's kind of nice because then you never write yourself into a corner, even though like, don't get me wrong. I'm sure there's a book where it's like, this is in, we cannot defeat this unless we use the the McGuffin, McGuffin. But for the most part, I mean, almost everything can be taken down that way. I mean, how Dorn, thanks to Dorn being just like a living brick, he just ate a couple hundred years. of sand, you know, like, because he just touches his brain.

His brain is that way. Yeah. Kind of reminds me. Comic book fans, maybe, maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure in the comic books, the way they defeat Thanos is they do like these tests related to the individual stones. And I'm pretty sure Captain America's is the reality stone

where everything is like weird and strange. And he just, because he's like such a mental fortitude, he's just kind of like is able to kind of see through the lies. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong on that one, but I think I'm shy. Yeah, thanks for that shot. Yeah, yeah. I forgot all about that meme. I forgot all about that one. Isn't there some squirrel girl nonsense in the comic books too where she's actually like the strongest superhero and actually she killed Thanos or some nonsense?

I don't know. Who? Marvel? Not in the, not the in the movie. Squirrel girl, right? Squirrel girl. I don't know, man. They probably did that with everything. Yeah. There's so many. It's been 50 years of comics. as this is happening Abadon he's back up he's healed from his wounds in saturnine he's on the field as they're basically

storming the sanctum imperialis and then he gets news that the Ventral Spirit's shields were down and he's like this has gone too far there's no control like he just looks in front of him he just realizes that chaos without control this is pointless

he forces basically like you know the sanctum is burning and it's like the victory is in sight and he turns around he abandons the siege with the justairn that he can gather with him and they head back to this eventual spirit as it's turning into this weird dream scape obviously at the same time this is happening good old typhus who he saw in the war hawk section and when he abandoned mortarian him and his death guard are attacking Corseway and the Dark Angels at the Astronomicon and they're like climbing the cliffs and it's obviously like they're slow and they're using warp magic

to like make them like stand up straight and defy gravity you know shout to wicked there yeah and the Dark Angels they feel the dread of you know when you're in the presence of death guard there's a sense of dread and it's getting to them until

it's not not time to talk about it but a warrior in black plate and a silver mask appears, it is the Dark Angel's Lord Seifer of the 30K. Their Lord Seifer appears and they rally to him.

There's not enough time to go into 30K law, like Seifer law, because it's very different from the 40K stuff. But it is a, the Lord Seifer to the Dark Angels is the like almost, he is the keeper of their traditions of the Dark Angel. So he's like the core of their being

and they rally again. They like start, they're cutting down like ropes. and they're like stabbing them as they're climbing cliffs. And we end volume one with, The Emperor is enraged. He starts amassing more warp power. He is like what he does. He is Prometheus.

He once long ago took the fire, you know, the knowledge from the warp gods, and he made it his own. He is doing the same thing. He is gathering the warp to himself and amassing power. And he is heading towards his son. now we go to volume 2, which is a weird shift here, because it begins with the Eldari. Again, I just want to briefly mention it, because otherwise people might be wondering what else is happening.

The Eldari are having a council. All representatives from the craft worlds and even the nobles of Komora turn up. Eldrador is with them here. Again, not time to give it. It's full flowers. But they lament their foolishness for not intervening. enough with the horror's heresy and humanity despite Eldra out also doing shenanigans. Oh, yeah, that's true. I guess other, I, whenever I think of the siege of terror, I never

think of like, hey, what's going on in like the rest of the galaxy while almost a new chaos god is being born and that the elves are lamenting, like, oh shit, we let it happen again. Son of a bitch. Well, speaking of that, the, you know, they have like the Harlequins enact the play of the birth of Sonash. Yeah. They, there's a new play, and it's the birth of the Dark King. Oh. Future site of the Eldari is gone. There is no future to see.

They cannot see a future because they think the universe is basically going to implode. Oh, great. That's great news. What a way to start a book. Oh, shit. As I say, maybe I dropped the map a little bit early than it had to be, but again, terror and eventual spirit is merged now, like fully in this weird dream scheme. It is like the inevitable

I think people mention like the impossible city or the inevitable city Again everything is far away Close each other Cool that art is so dope The idea of the vengeful spirit merging with terror in this chaos Dreamscape is so fucking rad

Dude I didn't realize it went that bad too I didn't realize it went that crazy I know like the more this keeps happening I'm like I know what happens And I know what happens with the siege of terror I didn't realize how bad it actually got. Like, I thought that terror was in, I thought, yeah, like, I thought terror was in ruin.

I didn't realize, oh, it is happened. Like, golly. Apocalypse doesn't quite, doesn't quite contain what this word, like, what is happening. The cool part now, it's got an even weirder, because we see through, like, some of the characters, which is Alonius, um, person in John Gramaticus. They start to, like, there are different groups like, like Loken is at one point alone, but they're traveling through this scapeers. Everyone's trying to get to Horace.

And, uh, they see, like structures and buildings that, like Alania says, I know that. That's from Prague, but Prague is long gone.

So, like, history itself is, like, folded into this weird realm. Like, again, there's some theory crafting here,

I will state that because it's not official canon, but, maybe this fifth chaos god is having, you know, they create their own realm and the warp chaos gods. And there's the human realm maybe is basically what's happening now. It's like the vengeal spirit and terror and history. And all of human kinds, like great achievement, folded into one weird place.

The characters who are still alive, so like even some of the members who were like part of the, the phalanx fleet and some of the like Sinderman, who is the iterate, so Remmeritone an iterator, who by the way, No time to get into it. Azeck Aramone is like keeping him hostage deep below terror.

No time to talk about that. Everyone is playing with the tarot. And then the same, the weird part is this same tarot deck keeps coming up. It's the harlequin, the eye, the great host, the shattered world, the labyrinth path, the throne, the Hulk, the moon, the martyr, the monster, the lightning tower, the emperor, the emperor, the emperor, the dead. dark king. And it's all references to perhaps what is basically the emperor's life or other parts or what's happening now. Like, you know, the throne, the lightning tower is when Alanius and the emperor knew each other and then the emperor learned of chaos and then Alanius stabbed him. This is thousands of years ago in human history. When Alanius person was the emperor's

war master, the first war master. So weird, like stuff like this. Sanguineus, and it's blood angels, they have been, such as their fury, they have been plowing through the sons of Horace and they start to fight demons as well. Just Horace starts to show off. He pulls from the warp a soul that is being gnawed on by demons and the ghost of Ferris Manus appears. He is a broken being. He speaks to San Guineas and he's just here to torment him only. And it sounds like his soul is being devoured slowly. Like, that is what death means in Warhammer. Yeah,

Melchador. Malcador ascends the golden throne, as we mentioned a little bit earlier. And it feels like burning alive, he describes it. It is like constantly being burned alive. And Vulcan, like, again, with Malkador's, like, sacrifice, like, he knows he'll never leave it. He, like, when he, when it happened earlier in the series, like, the novel, he, like, the emperor almost, like, cry because he's like, my friend is dying for me, because Malcador believes in his vision.

And Malcador's but, but, like, Vulcans near, like, guarding the throne. He can no longer look. He can't see Malcador. Malcador tries to shout, like, he's, because he can see, like, Horace is letting Malcador see it all happen, like, everything at once to torment Malcador as, like, Malkador is doing his best to almost enact what the ember did on the throne. Vulcan agrees at this point that because Malcador's dying, they do the, they do the worst, the thing that makes Vulcan's heartbreak, they start to sacrifice Sikas to extend his time on the golden throne. Yeah.

So these people, they grab people from the prisons and they just start, you know, fuel for the fire. We finally get to the side plot of Alani's person and grammaticus. And again, I don't want to give too much this bit because everyone gets, whenever John, like, whenever really cool parts happen in this book and you're like, oh, my God, they're about to fight. And then just switches to a John Gramaticus scene. Everyone goes, oh, my God. Rightfully so.

Yeah, they cut the worst part. So I'm putting it in the better places, which is they had like this weird rag tag group. If you remember, they were joined by Actae, who was actually the lady cyrus. Rini and other than Alpharius, who was not Alpharius, but they managed to deal with him by putting a mine on his body. So if he moved, he'd blow up. I don't want to get the Alphal Legion stuff, but very like too much, but very quickly, the Alphal Legion have code words for different outcomes of the Horace heresy, which is side with the emperor, side with Horace, like, well, you know, fight chaos, cyber chaos, other things. And basically, I think it implies, like, why the Alphal Legion is such a cluster fuck in the future. It's because, because. all the code words get used. So all the Alphalusians do different things. Yeah, again, I want to leave it at that because it's not, like, it's not

technically Cesar Terra, but it's just explaining like why other characters are forced to do things in it. And because they're playing along to see how it basically ends. They have this weird rag tag group of like Alanias and like some of the friends he's made

over the years, John Gramaticus, Cyrene and Litu, who is like the first ever space marine, we mentioned in the saturnine episode and the last one. He was a very funny guy and he's a bit of a, you know, he's like, you know, if someone says, are you shitting me? He went, I am not shitting on you.

Sort of flashes of humour. I like him quite a lot. They get, they realize like they've been hunted. There's always like a weird, like they've been, they have an an anathane, they've been using to like teleport themselves, like cut wounds in space and travel through that. They've been doing that a lot throughout the

horror's heresy, particularly O'Lani's. There's always been like someone chasing them. It's like a hair, like a breath on the back of their neck. They can feel it's close. We find out in this book, it's actually been Erebus. Son of my bitch. Yeah. They have been carrying this an an thing dagger and they found this red string and they've been using it to like track their their, basically their path they've been using. It's like one of the few things that they've just, they've just been doing it. And it's been helping them so they, you know, in this weird dream scale, they don't double up on themselves or they know that they've gone this way. And then

And then Erebus just attacks them. Yeah. Fuck Erebus. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely fuck Erebus. Yep. Yeah. Erebus attacks them. He kills all of John's friends.

Actae gets buried alive. It's not good. Leesu gets wounded. They run away. They see some word bearers and cultists running. They are, the word bearers are petrified. The word bearers who will fully sacrifice, human and not blink, they are running in terror from a blazing mass that stalks the dreamscape.

It is the dark king ascendant is here. It is a being, it's like it is a star. It is an energy that is almost too bright to look at. It hurts to be near it. And once it gets closer to grammaticus, Alanias and Litu, they see the puppeteered, charred form of 12 custodies. It's not honest. Oh, no.

It's the emperor. He has amassed so much power, like the prophecy is him. The emperor will become the dark king and destroy humanity. But because of the fact of so many threads are tied together here, Alanias rushes forward and speaks to his once friend. But the emperor listens for a moment because he's like, it's weird that you're here.

I haven't seen you in like 40,000 years. is literally, so it's not, it's obviously a weird coincidence that you're here. He convinces the emperor to shed this extra warp power that it's going to end in destruction. Like, despite you may think you can't kill Horace without it, you'll, you know, you'll be worse. So the emperor sheds this power from himself and he cuts off like most of his humanity with it and sends it into the war, which again is like the star child. Yeah, yeah.

Star Child thing. Okay. Yeah, not going into that too crazy, but that's where it's, they, they don't say Star Child in the book, but it's like a child of the, like, it's almost, they basically say about saying it. Sure. We say at this point as well, Mr. Garville Loken, who, by the way, the whole, this book has been chased by Sammas and he's been like fighting him. He's just like, no, God, not again. Yeah, like he's been like, you know, Sammas has like been fighting like in combat. It's like, Samus, all gnar on your bones, you know, the classic Samus stuff, and he managed to get away. Him.

So, Loken, Litu, and then Calcestus is the only custodian out of the 12 dead, like, charred puppeteers, one left to life, but he's like on the edge of death. And with the emperor's dispersal, he heals Lokens, Lytos, and Calcestis's wounds. The three of them kneel before him and make an oath of Mold. moment and they will move together to go fight Horace. This moment of the emperor's like relinquishing of power, you know, it's, you know, what's the saying is like, you know, power is always there for someone willing to lower themselves to pick it up, you know, is the great thing the emperor has done, although he might not win against Horace now.

This dispersal wave banishes demons across the dreamscape and like terror slash the eventual spirit. And it helps like Valdoch's grubes. group, like they finally get to push out. Like, defenders, like, the mortal people just, like, hiding in, like, holes and ruins and everything. They see demons, not all of them, but many get banished. And there's, like, a rallying, the defenders rally a bit here. And in particular, like, the group of white scars, blood angels, and Imperial Fist, who were still stuck outside the, whatever the eternity gate was, and they're fighting, like, other units. They, they rally

forward with this, and they kill loads of the traitors. And Valdoz's group, pushes up and they're going to go join the emperor if they can as they see in front of them like the blinker signal of Abidon's group. So that's happening. Here they're going to Abidon and Valdor going to meet. Almost at the end of this volume here, which is Dawn, who we return to Dawn in the desert, good old Dawn in the desert. He's been fighting these whispers in a very interesting way. Dawn starts to cite military code. He starts to say, back in the olden days, one would use Cantabriot, shout out to

Rome total war. You know, Parthia Cantabrian circle, my dude, all day long. Or, you know, I'm using the saluted empire. He starts spouting military code and tactics, and it starts to annoy the voice of corn. So he's like, because he's not

getting angry. He's not whispering. He's not, you know, say it. Say it blood for the blood god. He's not saying it. He's like walking along the wall again. and he finally finds a weak spot and he starts slamming his like self on it and dawn finally emerges into the weird like impossible city

the inevitable city dream skate and he's finally on the siege of terror so dawn has broken out let's go door and finally breaks out of the desert into the impossible reality what a poor time well it beats the endless desert escape, I guess.

He does find Actae slash Sireini, who she's a perpetual having been raised from the dead from, by Erebus before. By the way, she's crushed under some rubble. And because she's a perpetual, she keeps resurrecting, like, suffocating

and drowning on her own blood, and then dying, and then resurrecting, like, so she's not able to do anything. He, like, helps her because he finds her. Everyone around them is dead. His sons are, like, around her dead. He finds courts. He takes a sword from one of his dead sons, like one he quite loved, and he just charges off, like, I'm going to go fight. And Acta goes to go do, basically, she's like, I will go help rally the

people if I find them. We end with Sanguineus emerges into the throne room. Oh, I hate talking about this bit. It makes you so sad. Mangunius sees Horace has made multiple thrones around him because he is a just, merciful God. He has made places for the emperor, for his brothers. He's even made a throne for Valdo because they will join him. But Sanguinius

rejects it. Still bleeding from the wounds Angron gave him, Sanguine Sanguinius throws himself at Horus. Sanguinius understands that he can never if he is to defy the fate that he has seen many times

in his life, he has to basically give everything he has like on, you know, on shaky legs, he uses his wings. He understands like Horace is slow and bulky, so he uses his wings, like, to dart around Horace and he's stabbing him. He's, it looks like Sanguinius is actually doing it. Like, it builds up so much in the book until, like, that power wave of the emperor's strength, like, flows over. And then we realized Horace was just holding back because he wanted Sanguonius to join him, like all bad, like all evil God. tempt people to their side. He wanted

his brother by his side, but that's not going to happen. So he just picked, he just grabs Sanguonius. He moves with a speed that he didn't demonstrate before, and he just starts to, like, continuously impale, slam, you know,

bludgeon, and I'll give this to Bricky here, which is this is what Horace, this is the Elop 3 of what Horace does. You get to read about Horace beating the shit. out as I think when he is lucky you.

I just, I really need I don't know who does this, but I just need this during this entire part shy. Can I get like a like a, no, no, it's fine. Can I get a video of like Peter Griffin? Can I get like Lois one scene where she beats the shit out of Peter Griffin while I say this? That's all I'm asking for. Horace squeezes slowly. He is expecting

some last words, some immortal and heroic declaration to mark the end of a majestic noble life. It ought to be something good, something appropriate. But Sanguinius is no longer capable of speech. He is drowning in his own blood. The claws close. There is a double crack of spine and neck. Horace waits, blood drips, it's done.

The town opens with a mechanical clack. His brother's corpse so loose and mangled that it seems almost boneless, drops to the deck. an ugly sound of impact to mark an ugly ending Horace sighs and walks away things scurry forward from the shadows to nail the body up and he just he just

I always thought he struggled a little bit more back in the day but he just he just absolutely bodies Oh yeah that was yeah jeez yeah I always thought that it was like actually pretty close and that if you know maybe

sanguineas had a few less wounds he would have actually beaten Horace. And in this one, it's just like, nah, nah, he just snatched him and crushed him like a fucking bug. That fate would never come to pass. The old lord was like he made a wound on Horace's arm at the emperor exploited. That is no longer the case. That is, Sanguineas was utterly outmatched.

He gave everything. He never stopped. Even on broken legs, he stood until Horace broke his neck. And then Sanguinius is called. corpse, which is, again, like you said, mangled beyond the point of, like, it feels boneless. He is crucified and strung up behind the thrones of Horace to basically be, as the chaos gods laugh. It is a piece of shit. Yeah, I get, I actually generally get upset at this one because even in the, again, for the people who are the novel veterans, it's so like, you, it lets you believe for a second and then it, it's just over.

and poor Sanguonius dies. It is just, straight up just dies. And now we're going to end guys with volume 3. So this is the home stretch. The inner sanctum of the Imperial Palace, it's overrun. They're in.

The loyalist defenders are holding just outside the throne room or whatever the throne room is meant to be. Obviously, space and time is all warped. Traitors are attacking. Demons emerge from rooms. that shouldn't be there. Doors are leading to places that shouldn't exist. Enemies are behind them instead of in front of them.

Nightlords are jumping from the ceiling. And like, there's one of them seen where they literally jump and they start like two nightlords attack a custodian. They start like wrenching his skin off as he's like trying to fight them off. It's horrific. There's a cool part I find funny, which is, I think, an Imperial Fist and Space Wolf, they made like semi-friends. A massive tentacle shoots out of the door, grabs the impel fist, and drags him through a hole that is smaller than the size of the original person, and the space wall just runs after him.

Being like, no! Like, it is madness. But speaking of even worse madness, a true tidal wave of fury washes over the blood angels. Oh, this is when they go crazy. the black rage is here they attack all in the inner sanctum nassia amit does not understand what happens to him he just strides forward and starts killing they attack enemies they attack world eaters word bears other everything they attack their allies askalon who's in charge of the sanguinary guard attacks fafnir ran who is like one of the last imperial fists like still like leading there's many can't bring himself to kill Ascalon. Other people who are trapped outside of eternity,

they're turning on each other. The blood angels are rushing forward with no regard for their own life and they are horrified because basically the loyalists who are not mad, they've realized that Sanguineus is dead. A Primac has just died.

As I asked you guys another question here, which is, which character death can you still not get over? You first, D.K. Which one can I not get over? I would have a small offering just to give you time to think, which is I still like, whenever I was reading the Nightlaw's trilogy, I hate that Zol like went before the final battle. I hate that he went before the final battle and then Talos has to be like, you know, burn his corpse, laugh at me, like he was such an evil bastard. I mean, Zorro's a great choice.

Zerl's a great choice. I mean, it's kind of hard not to go with Sanguinius, even though it's like necessary for the story and I don't want to see him brought back. It's still kind of hard to see Best Boy get absolutely dominated and strung up. So I'm going to go with easy answer. I'm just going to go with Sanguinius.

I'm going to go with Best Boy's death is still a tough one to get over. necessary as it may be. It's still like, oh man, but he's so cool. I said, I think we all found Genetia Crowell's death to be kind of bullshit. Yeah. Do you know what I thought of randomly? Do you remember the, like, the weird from in the Kaifers-Kade novel

for the emperor, like the first one? And there's that really cool, like, sniper guy. Oh, are you from Matt Larkin? Oh, sorry, Kyvis Kane. Never mind. Wrong one. Yeah. Yeah, he was the, uh, he was the Penal Legion prisoner guy. Um, and he actually, actually, I had actually, yeah, he was really, really cool, but then they'd knocked him out at the end of the book and I was like, oh, damn, I like that guy. It was kind of coming around. Yeah, like there's, because they're good. Good.

I was thinking, actually one of the ones, I mean, I pick a Gantz ghost. Pick one of them. Yeah. You know, I thought, I thought for a while that, like, Aribus is the most evil person in the, in the world. But I do think Arabis is awful, but I kind of like him because he's so terrible. No one truly pulls up a level of hatred than I have for Lijaku. He's, um, it's a character in the Gonsk Ghost books.

Nobody comes close to. the type of sheer unrelenting, unfathable anger that Lijah Fething Koo provides. I don't know. There's just something about it. He sends slurs. He sends slurs to his parents. I'm doing the little Pepe Hacker Man thing, sending slurs to your location. Yeah, no, he's pretty, he's pretty up there.

Yeah, I mean, Warhammer does a good job of a lot of, like, I guess, like, you know, seeing some characters die. Like, it's always a good thing. like in the horror's heresy, like they do, obviously there were some characters who we know they make it out because obviously they were like, pattern masters of founding legions, also probably founding chapters, but they do a good job in horror's heresy of like killing off characters in general, like a lot of characters who we meet do die, which I say is a benefit to horror's heresy law compared to like 40K stuff, everyone just kind of lives through it.

Whereas because obviously it's a setting whereas like 30K is like, well, if they're not, you know, super famous, they're probably going to die. Speaking of people who are going to die, the emperor, Calcestus, Lucan, Litu. Nice segue, brother.

That's a golden segue. Yeah, well, speaking of this, because it's, it gets worse for these guys. They travel through, like,

this vast landscape of, again, if everyone knows, like Lovecraft law, like a, a dream scape of, dream quest of unknown cadet in some sense.

I would like to love to love travel law by the way that's how I got into 40K stuff it's usually my expertise before 40K actually

but they fight demons that are like the size of titans they fight weird like hobbling creatures and other thing

like you know not like traditional demons you see in the tabletop there's an entire word bearer of force guarding the throne room and the emperor

eviscerates them in fire and they emerge and they see the crucified sanguineas and then they see the most hateful, evil, most heart-wrenching thing they've ever witnessed. They see Horace. And it's about to go off. Just outside of the throne room,

I say outside, it's like, it's next door to it and a million miles away. Valdor and his surviving brothers are attacked by Abadon. and Abidon, like Justeran, who is joined by Erebus, ugh. Abidon becomes, like, he establishes his sort of future ethos, which is control, not controlled. He takes only a portion of chaos power from Erebus, and it begins to duel Valdor. And if you guys remember, like, Valdo has the Apollonian spear, the weapon that is, if he stabs someone, he can see the memories and, like, like their sort of their life,

he stabs Abadon and he foresees despoiler. He foresees a grim, dark future of death and pain. It makes Valdole go near mad. The custodians are being cut down. Valdo is hobbling, wounded beyond

what a custodian should ever be able to take until a yellow shape dart in with a speed almost unreadable as dawn goes back to back with Valdor and they start fighting together. Then from the side,

a horde of blood angels lost to the black raid, flank the Gisterian and tie them up as Dorn and Valdor rushed to the throne room. As this is happening, Sigismund, who we understand is, you know, he's become the emperor's champion now.

He is, he found Keeler again, Euphrates Keeler, and they lead this throng of like the last refugees of the people of terror. There's nothing else. else and they make it to the Astronomicon because obviously time and space has weirdly warped and the Death Guard like are attacking in cycles they land there when it's not being attacked and they begin to they are beginning to try and help get the Astronomicon lit again as Sixthamon and his men like reinforced the Dark Angels as once again Typhus attacks

with the Dark Angels on the cliff meanwhile of course it's a lot of meanwhile here Alanius and John realized they've been following those like that red thread that they had earlier and this is how they were able to get to the part where they stopped the emperor from becoming the dark king

and they were following red thread that they didn't even realize they put down so they realize they have to go back and retrace their steps with the red thread so that their future selves can prevent this from happening when Alanis at one point realized the anathane dagger that he's been carrying

which he thought Erebus had like broken when they fought. It was repaired when the emperor healed things around them. So it's like, oh, crap. Like he needs this. Back to the throne room, much of this book is, there's a lot of horace dialogue. But it's all in a monologue. He is saying crazy shit being like, he thinks he's a god. He speaks like, oh, Sanguinius was just too stubborn to resist you.

We couldn't understand your benevolent ways. Him and the emperor, like father and son, after the Horacee, finally look upon each other. And the emperor, like, Horace is enjoying. He's like, look at what I've become. Look at what you hid from me. The emperor is not responding until finally says, until finally he says, you have killed my son. And he realizes he's speaking to chaos.

He doesn't mean saying, yeah. Yeah, he realizes he's not talking to him. He's not talking about sanguineas and what he did. He doesn't even see Horace as like he's, he thinks he's a slave. So the battle begins. Horus gets pinned, so the emperor gets pinned down as Horace unleashes this dark lightning and he's enjoying that the emperor cannot break free from it. Until Calcestus, Loken and Litu start hacking at his limbs, like next to him.

And they're like, they're like, they're attacking as furious as they can. And he is taken aback because he's like, oh, my God. And he gets upset because he's like, he realizes Loken is here. And Loken is his, like, this is a son attacking father. And he's like, oh, well, of course. It's, of course, that's what I'm doing, you know, but he finds it particularly striking that Loken, who he's a son who he, throughout the, not like, these last few books, they established like, Loken is.

how Horace thinks he is. Like, he is the closest to being who he was, like, a, before he was obviously chaos horace. So he has, like, a special spot for Loken, despite obviously letting him die on this one, three. At this point, the enemies are at the door to the throne room. The noise is outside the, like, you know, the golden throne.

Yeah. Malgador's body has been burned away. There is nothing left. There's only his dying spirit. Vulcan decides that they have lost. He cannot hear the screams of like the spirit of Malcador as he begins to activate the talisman of seven hammers to destroy terror. Yeah.

Horace is not happy, by the way, that these other interlopers are attacking in. He talks us. He's very unhappy that people are hitting his limbs. Yeah. I think, uh, I've got a particular line that I think, I think Bricky will love this one, which is, uh, well, the first part is, he tosses Loken into like this demon dreamscape realm, not the one they're in. He throws Litu to corn.

He just, he's like, here you go, dad, or whatever, or chaos dad, he goes. He flicks Litu off and he lands in front of corn. Calcestus is thrown across the room. And boy, at this point, like, demons are trying to like eat sanguinness's body. It's like kind of disgusting. The emperor and Horace's duel is akin to. to a dying star. It is a violent, destructive

force which cannot be perceived by mortal eyes. This is where it gets even weirder. Their fight bleeds into history itself. They fight across the concepts of the Horace heresy. They fight on

the warp realization of the gate of Moloch. They fight along history. They fight in other dimensions. The emperor is strong, but Horace is winning. He is slamming. They are stealing fighting techniques from each other. And the emperor is taking gouging wounds from a chaos-infected Horace.

This is the part why I said, you know, the Yu-Gi-O, it is the Hugo episode. They begin to duel in the concept of the tarot deck. You know, Horace is deploying thing. Horace deploys the dark king as a way to, you know, incense the emperor for the thing he almost was. He just destroys a lighting tower. They're actually dueling. They're dueling. They're using the tarot cards.

Yes. This is very strange to me, but okay. The emperor could use the double-headed eagle to escape a blow. And then the emperor uses the silver mirror. And he appears behind the emperor and he slams world breaker on the emperor's head. It is absolutely nuts in this book. It's like, your brain this goes, what am I reading? Is this?

Is this work better when you're reading the book? Because this scene is really out of left field, but I don't know if it's more so the idea that like, okay, when you're actually reading the book, and this makes more sense because you, this is the big, grandiose final fight. And because to us, they're a little bit more,

you know, this is just kind of short, short term episodes. We're seeing, we're seeing like the emperor hit, like, like, like, take a steel chair into Torres's face. And the steel chair is actually, the car dark magician.

Like, it's, I'm, I'm a little, I'm having a hard time with this. Yeah, the emperor cast pot of greed to then bring back another pot of greed. And then he takes the pot, he lifts it over a horse's head and beats him to death with it, right? So, like, I'm a little, there's a lot happening here. Yeah, this is kind of wild. It's yes and no. I can understand what Dan Abner is doing where it's trying to show, like, the fight is beyond the human understanding of what a battle could possibly be, because it's obviously the war.

is very cool though in the book but again like saying it in a shorter condensed version to sound silly but it is very very like they might as well go this hard if they're going to be the emperor in the horace fight the emperor gets beaten like more than he gets beaten once Horace lets him get up

and they fight again and he like beats him he creates these black stone spiked and he impales the emperor onto this bloody throne as they're back in, they arrive back in the throne room. As this is happening, like, Horace is walking away, he's having monologue. He's like, I've won. And then Calcestus attacks Horus, whilst at the same time, Litu is like trying to wrench these spikes out of him. Horace torments Litu saying, you know, Erder is dead. I felt the death. And he's like, no, my, you know,

my master. So he is broken as well. Calcester's, at one point, he pretends to be possessed by the emperor and pretends to speak with the emperor's voice. And this throws Horace off for a moment. He's like, how is this possible? But Calcestis is faking it. And eventually Horace just sends a blast wave towards him. And yet the charred corpse still stands. Because on his armour, like, if you maybe remember I mentioned it earlier, when Malkador had used his spit to draw a sigil on Calcest's armour, the sigillite magic keeps him alive for just a moment longer as he defies Horace.

And this upsets Horace even more. So he just obliterates him. Like, just obliterates him. Yeah. This is going bad. Acte who, you know, Sireini Acta, who was freed earlier by dawn, she eventually found some, like, guardsmen slash penal guardsmen. And then she found some, like, buried blackstone.

I'm sorry. I'm just imagining, like, penal, are these penal guardsmen on the, on the vengeful spirit? No, they're like the human, they're like people who broke out of prison and they just decided to, like, we might as well pretend we were in the emperor's army and they just start fighting. Oh, okay. I thought they were like somewhere on the vengeful spirit as well with the black stone. Technically. Technically, they're both the same thing. She finds some blackstone.

and obviously if some parts on the law, Blackstone can resonate anti-warp power and war on the handset. Yes. She starts to use her psychic power to vibrate out

and extend the message the emperor must live. And it starts to like, people start to hear it in whisper. The people who are still alive, the defenders in the inner sanctum, the guys trapped outside, the throng of people in the astronomicon, people start to

hear this whisper. She also gets in psychic contact with Gramaticus and Nalanius to help teleport then back into the throne room, except when this happens, they land right before Horace and the Emperor, like right in the middle of it. John Gramaticus, very briefly, because we've got to get through this. John Gramaticus speaks a word of an nuncia, which, again, a lot of time we briefly mentioned it. So, among the episodes, it's like the power language of the universe. It's an ongoing 40K kind of cool thread. This word of power beans Horace across the room. Just beans here.

Doesn't kill him, but just sends him flying. Alanias gives John the red string and says, you have to complete the mission. Otherwise, we'll never have found our way here. So John runs away with the red string. And as the myth basically comes into full creation, a lone guardsman stands before Horace Lupacal, defying him to the end as Horace obliterates him in one swipe forever erasing his you know the supposed

perpetual yeah as this is happening though the chant the emperor must live is taken up by like this is like a very cool part of the book where the people start to charlie everyone who's alive starts to chant the emperor must live and it eventually coalesces in so much power that finally The Asronomicon roars into life. The fleets of the phalanx, all their survivors, Gilemon's armada at the edge of terror, they see the light and they power forward because terror, you know, basically Gondor calls for a raid. The beacons are lit.

Vulcan hears it too and he finally stopped the doomsday device for a moment. Good timing. The very last part here, which is Loken appears before Horace. he's escaped his dream torture and he begs he just speaks to horace like they have quite a long conversation but he begs the like him to let go of chaos's power

to show that he is the master and chaos have been like they're they're trying to talk to him throughout much of these like fight scenes because he's not doing what they're telling him to do he's like you know I'm in charge I'm in charge and the egg is to basically cement that the victory

was horaceism not chaos as he says they'll make you a slave unless you do this now, Horace smashes the emperor's head open. He kills the emperor as the chance of the emperor must live is happening outside.

The throne room itself is irradiated in light and he kills the emperor while this happens. And he lets go of the power of chaos. He's still like Horace and he says like it's over loken, you know. He's like, you know, even though

he's again, weird in a monologue, it's like, even though he was, you know, the old tyrant to your oppressor, he was still your father. So he says to Loken, let's grab his body, take it back to terror. I've won. I'm the master of mankind. It's not Loken. The person speaking to Horace is not Loken. Horace realizes the emperor has tricked him to surrendering the power of chaos.

The emperor, the emperor takes, he says, Horus sees a second lochan. He realizes, what is this? He's like, oh, fuck. He feels the power of chaos, though. It's building up in him, but he can't grab it fast enough. The emperor takes the anathane and rams it into Horace. And whereas he's dying.

Sorry, which is the anathame? That is the emperor's sword. Yeah, the big flaming one? No, that's the, it's the. It's the arabis blade. Yes, the aeribus blade. Oh, the Arabis blade, right. right. Okay, sorry. It was a sword, but they got broken into like daggers.

So this is a tagger. So he rams the anathame into Horus. And as Horace is dying, he begs for mercy to fully kill him because he can't believe what he has done. He can feel chaos coming back in. He knows he cannot resist. That is the whole point. Horace in the end, he was a slave. It wasn't really him. It was, it was, it was. It was, it was, it was him manipulated in some sense, but the power. Carol chaos dominates its slaves. And Horace Leeu Picard falls to the deck dead as the emperor falls to the deck. The demons on terror, the demons on terror disappear. Like the world is starting to like crack and shift back into its normal self.

The loyalists emerge as like one big horde. The last of them, the bloody, the blood angels like have regals. like have regained their sanity slightly from the emperor's like the death of Horace and the emperor's wave the imperial fist the white scar all that has left

the people the regiments the civilians they all stand on the horizon seeing the traitors run seeing some of them desperate stumbling over each other killing each other some are turning back

and the loyalists just run at them they want vengeance they want Yeah Dawn and Valdo arrive in the throne room

They find the The barely alive Emperor Not speaking Dawn grabs Ferris's severed head skull From a

A side near the throne They grab the broken Sanguinius There will be a funeral Sanquinius at the end Only Loken stays behind Because he meets

Abidon And it's over He speaks to Abidon Saying it's over like I'm not your enemy. I'm not going to fight you. Come back and I'll get clemency. And Abidon's like, they'll never forgive us of what we have done.

Like he understands like Horace was not himself in the end. And we're going to end on this very last excerpt with Loken. Oh, D.K., would you read this last, this very last part? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He finishes speaking to Abidon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. Loken sighs. He starts to speak. Blood comes out of his mouth in place of words. Eyes wide, he falls forward into Abadon.

Abadon catches him and lowers him in horror to the deck. What did you do? Abidon snarls. Erebus slides his anathame out of Loken's back and whips blood from the blade with a flick of his wrist. A demon is born in the warp in response to an event here, says Erebus. You will come to know it well. It will be footsteps at your back.

It will be the one who walks behind you. It will be the only name you hear. Watch for it. Look out. It's already here. Samas was the man beside you. Loken, Names never leaves.

Loken, the death, the murder, the unspeakable act of, like, basically murder. Loken's murder will create the spark that creates Samus, creating the full loop of the horror's heresy as Loken's corpse falls to the ground and the traitors begin to run because the scouring will begin. That is the end.

My boy, Loken, no, he doesn't deserve this shit, man. Man survived all the way from the first book to the last, and Erebus kills him again. It's always Harry. I've changed my mind. the death I can't get over is Lokens. Yeah, I changed my damn mind. I changed my goddamn mind. I wanted to say that, but I don't want to spoil it.

God. As with the horror's heresy and much of Cedar Terror, victory comes, but what is the cost? It is, you know, that's the whole point of it. There's no great speech. There's no grand victory in the end where the heroes win the day. It is just death, sadness, and betrayal. And damn, is it good?

that is the siege of terror guys in cliff notes i can't say um i guess maybe at the end of this whole series though but well if we want to do a part four in the you'd have to be like some point in the future for all like the weird there's like three novellas in the middle there's like a garrho one there's a magnus the red one there's a weird uh like shattered legions one but that is technically the end of the siege of terror and the scouring begins from here. The fleets of Gilliman do arrive and I guess I'll say that if we ever did a scouring episode or something in the future. But there's only been one book so far. But did you, how did you guys think the siege of terror though?

Because so much has happened. You know, I will say I'm not so sure how I feel about the final fight. again, you know, taking it with a little grain of salt because obviously this has been the explanation to us as opposed to reading it from my personal self. But I'm a little unsure how I feel about the Yu-Gi-o battle. It is, it is done better in the books, to be fair. I just, I think the meme is like it's basically a Yu-Gi-o battle. But I think it's, I guess like I understand what they're trying to do with it. Because if it's just guys, you know, if it's just Warhammer and sort of.

would hit each other very hard for like basically three hours. It wouldn't been much. But yeah, I, yeah, but I do find it. It is, it is weird. I do get that. It is weird, but I don't mind the weird because there's been a lot of weird so far. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've enjoyed it. That is fair.

That is fair. Uh, that being, that being said, I'm still, I don't know, I'm a little, I'm a little torn personally. Uh, I do think, I don't know, I do, I do like the fact that, yeah, Yeah, I do like the fight of the emperor just like kind of tricked them, which is kind of goofy. Oh, I thought to mention one last part, which was that, uh, Malcador is screaming, I think is it? Uh, people might have to correct me from wrong, but there's like, they find a tarot card near the emperor's, uh, corpse, basically, or the, the, the barely alive emperor, which says throne. And then a slight, uh, spoiler for the, uh, scouring, Dawn only heard one command from the emperor.

his last words, and he wasn't sure if it was to put him on the throne or not to put him on the throne. To the throne may actually be a prison. Well, the emperor, if I'm not mistaken, has also ripped out his passion and soul, yes? So what are that in a sense? Humanity. Right. So the emperor we're dealing with on the throne is straight up not the same guy. Which is interesting, because I'm surprised he had any humanity to throw out.

He's like a shell of himself, obviously. The golden throne one we know is a shell, but like literally. Yeah. And so I'm kind of wondering like how much of the emperor just does not care anymore in the modern day. Yeah. It is an emperor. Probably a majority. Yeah.

It is his, he discarded a lot of his humanity because he understood like his humanity got in the way of him. He couldn't kill his son if his humanity was fully intact. it is the emperor but it's like it's like part of like if you know if someone went underneath like you know someone went through like radicalization or someone went through extreme trauma or another thing it's like you know

they're not they're the same person but in some way they are fundamentally changed and then have a complete lack of empathy so it is a to feel like the end of the the tone of it is meant to be oh yeah when he meets

Rabusa you thanks try out when he meets Rabute give them in the future like he says like the same thing with Sanguinius when he meets him. It's like son, weapon, you know, traitor, loyalist, other things. It's like the emperor's a, is a conduit of some other power now. He's barely the man he ever was. Yeah, but he was also kind of like that before, though. I mean, in Betrayer or maybe it was Master Mankind, he was like working on Angron or whatever.

I'm pretty sure he was to Ark and Land. He's like, yeah, he's my tools. Yeah, yeah. Those aren't my sons. That's that big speech is he doesn't consider them sons. Yeah, he's a tyrant because he has to be. and humans are dumb and, yeah. Oh, too fair.

The short of that is there's obviously people will maybe agree or disagree, which is there's some different interpretation between writers. So particularly Aaron Dembsky-Bowden was more of the emperor's slightly a tyrant, because obviously decided that he was, you know, is the theory crafting that the emperor, you know, that chaos threatened humanity because they understood like the emperor was a rival. So, like, that's why humanity ends up. with the horrors heresy in the end or like is the emperor protect you know preventing the grim duck

or trying to prevent the future where humanity dies because he oh he fussed all the danger of chaos could be or him and malcador do discuss in the heresy at you know in some of their short stories and novels that they understood what they were doing because they had to do it because they thought basically humanity was going to die but then we don't know like that's of all the futures the emperor could possibly see who knows if that was the future. you know because the emperor explains you know master of mankind like his prescience is so strong that it's almost like a debuff because he can see so many futures and like each person and every fly and you know butterfly effect of every decision is the point where he can no longer

like how could you guide a future in such a way and then he understands like not one person can be left out of the webway project because then chaos will win he has to is is the is the arrogance of his thought of being like he could actually gather every single human in the universe and bring them into the web way. So yeah, it's, again, this is like deep, deep law stuff. I think people do debate this stuff often, but I'll say that again, like for the, I say people listening, I mean, at the end of death three volumes, it's quite a lot. I wouldn't recommend doing them back to back.

But there's some absolutely like crazy cool like stuff in it, amazing writing and amazing scenes about the entire series. And I hope, these particularly you guys, have enjoyed least the, the, the rendition that I've, you know, held you in place to listen to throughout the whole series. Oh, yeah. Because, like, like, I, I knew what happened on the Siege of Terra, but I, in my head, I was pictured it like, oh, it was just like this big, you know, it was like the biggest war, one of the biggest wars on Tara. And it was like, oh, yeah, they were at the gates, Horace made it in. And it's like, well, he came close, but not quite. and this is so much more

like grandiose and epic and just like you know the the the seams of reality are shifting and Horace was really just that close

and it's just God it's it's so much crazier and I I liked it so much more than what was in my head for the Siege of Terra before like it's so much bigger and so much more

epic and just Yeah. It's good. That's what I'm telling. I know how it's always a lot. Like, it is good stuff, you know.

Mm-hmm. You know, every book is a banger, but overall as a singular piece, you know, I, uh, I'd rate it quite highly.

Like, I kind of want to go read these books now. Well, I don't want all the details on these things, man. Like, sheesh. Like,

I know what happens, but still, like, that was, well, if we, if we get, if they get a bit more further in it,

maybe we can do, like another rendition of like whatever the scouring is doing or um i particularly like um the dark imperium god the plague wars trilogy as well but that could be a future thing you know yeah i heard the plague wars are are pretty pretty good if you're a fan of death guard and they make the the animal true marines a little more uh likable it makes primaris tolerable i'll say for people i don't know get people i would say like it does a semi good job of expanding them out uh but know, Primaris is probably still controversial, even if 23-6. People who are controversial primaris are old and dying.

Their opinions will be lost soon. When did they get released, like 11 years ago? Oh, God, maybe, yeah. Was it 2017? 2017, maybe? I don't know. No, 2017 wasn't 11 years ago. Don't say that.

Don't, nope. Shut up. Still my first born helmets. Yeah, yeah, June 2017. Okay, so sorry. I bet nine years ago. Don't still don't like it. I don't like that 2017 was nine years ago.

That's not, um, can, can we end the episode before I literally, yeah, before I literally, I literally, glittered a dust. Before I become a thousand signs. No, this is, um, it's certainly interesting. It definitely is more grandiose. I don't know. Maybe it could be me. I could be more of a, um, I could be more of the kind of person who likes when things are

a little less grandiose. Because I like, I like a little bit more. more personal stuff. The lone, the lone, the small squad soldier story is always a, like, I find that as a breath of fresh air. These are, each has their place, you know what I mean, like the grand narrative and then, like, the smaller human story, which, yeah, the part I'm missing out on a lot of this law is, like, the side plots and the human perspectives are littered throughout these books.

Like, it's half human perspective, half Astati's and prim arts and stuff. So that's the part that I didn't have time to get to. But, yeah. No, definitely. I do like, I don't know, I do, I do like, I like the less grandiose type stuff. So while obviously this is important to be grandiose, it may not be my personal, like, favorite history bits. Sure. But like, I get it.

It is the horace heresy. It's got to be big. But I do always. Yeah. Yeah. I always do enjoy the smaller stuff. It's actually one of the reasons why I do like ADB's writing is because he often brings out some random cycle. character like dies immediately, but they're really

interesting for the, for the one chapter they're in. I'll say, I think a massive thank you guys for letting me, letting me on. I really appreciate it, you know? I think hopefully people, uh, listening in, hope I did an okay job. RAP, I think you did better than okay.

Yeah. Also, if you guys do go and read the books, look up those maps, uh, that, I'm, I'm sure they've been in the episode, but like going from like that first, map of, oh, hey, look, this is what the Imperial Palace is to, like, the last one of, like, just this bleeding

hellscape of the vengeful spirit merged with Terra and that big fucking eye in the middle and the, please look those up. It definitely adds a little bit when you know what the landscape is shifting into and you have, like, a way

to, like, you know, mentally picture it. Be sure to check those out, too. Thank you to Possum for your help. You are a real G. The goal? Yeah, seriously. Shout to your editor who has to deal with a really long episode. Sorry, dude. Well, it's shy and team question mark.

Apologies. Well, you know, it wouldn't be the first time they've, you know, or it wouldn't be the first two plus hour long episode Chies had to muster. So you did fantastic. I think you did. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah, dude.

It was great having you on. Yeah, like, yeah, everyone's, it's, I think with particularly with Warhammer law, like, there's, there's, there's, there's, I always think, like, people always know stuff, like, no one knows everything about it. And there's always a cool thing about, if you get an opportunity to talk about the thing you do know, because obviously, like, you guys are talking about, like, Gaunt Coast and other things I, I haven't had a chance to get around to, but then, you know, I'm glad I got an opportunity to seek about the thing that I like and I get to say, like, oh, that's my thing, you know, because Warhammer's fun and, you know, that's all point, you know. to have fun. Yeah. Absolutely. No, hell, yeah.

Thanks for, thanks for stopping by. Thanks for being apart. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. All right. Everyone run away like the, like the traders did at the end.

The scouring begins. Ah!