Adeptus Ridiculous - SIEGE OF TERRA: The First Wall Falls | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculous​The Horus Heresy has reached its endgame. Join us and special guest TheAmberKing for Part 1 of our complete Siege of Terra timeline!​In this episode, we break down the initial defense of the Sol System, starting with Rogal Dorn’s fortification of the Palace and the brutal Battle of Pluto. We cover the tragic duel between Dorn and Alpharius, the collapse of the defensive spheres during the Solar War, and the terrifying arrival of the Traitor Fleets. ​As the bombardment of Terra begins and the Lost and the Damned flood the trenches, the loyalists face impossible odds.Support the show

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamanties. His name is Bricky. And look at that. It's Hal the Amber King, but we'll get in that in just a second. If, however, you really like the podcast, maybe you want to support us monetarily, head over to Patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you get access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen.

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Also, there will be a space sharks book episode this month. I know. Shocking. Shocking. We do book clubs. I know. I actually do want to read the new Nightlord's book. I hear it's quite good.

The one that came with dark heresy? Is that the one that came with dark heresy? I thought it was like just, it just recently came out. It was like, oh, they got some big old like lightning. How have you read that book? Surprisingly, one of the few books I've not managed to immediately run in all fours and grab my hands on it, you know. I've actually, you can't read every Warhammer book, but I, there's so many on my list, but I'm willing to give anyone any book a go. Give anyone a go. Give anyone a go.

I don't know there's, you know there's someone in the live chat right now that's like, I've read every book. What do you mean? You can do it. Yeah, read every, I'm sure they've read every book. I'm sure they've read every book, 100% read every book. But also, joining us, Hal, also known as the Amber King, would you like to introduce yourself in various methodologies? Wow, it's so strained coming full circle,

because I remember when AdRick started and now it's weird being on it. But I'm so happy to be here, guys, because I am, of course, Hal the Amber King. I have been doing Warhammer Law on YouTube for a couple of years now. I mostly focus around like in-depth character videos on my main channel, but I also am on with the law crimes crew. We do like, honestly, it's a waste of your time to watch that one because it's just silly people talking about useless opinions on really neat topics about Warhammer things.

And I love it. Pulls that collar Homer Simpson style. Yeah. Well, to be fair, Ricky, we haven't done a feat tier. list yet how yeah exactly i don't uh consider myself of any reputation any like this is is that bad for you guys i don't hear what a dishonorable choice of guest oh no very true i thought we only brought in lore experts on this uh this podcast how dare we also also i'd like to i'd like to roll back time a little bit on this one okay um dk you say we haven't done the defeat tier list you sir have done

the feed tearless. I meant we were on that episode, sir. I didn't, I just, that's not my fault.

I had no idea what I was walking into. If you're, if you're gonna try to drag me to hell, get better grip strength, motherfucker. You would have done it, all right?

You, you would have had a better opinion on the feet tear list than me. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. How? What are we doing today? Yeah,

not our proudest moment. Today, we are talking about one of my favorite, topics in Warhammer Law. And I will say for people who are daunted by the massive 60 book series of the horror's heresy and they never got to the chance to read The Siege of Terror, which is an amazing series.

I love it a lot. And I want to give people a chance to get a sort of a, I wouldn't say brief because we've got a lot to cover today. But I don't want to give people like an overview of each of the main books of the horror I said main books are the seed of terror because imagine like you know the Lord the Rings trilogy like you know second film the two towers this is the two towers of Warhammer Law and I think particularly with the seats of terror obviously like again for people who are listening it's we're going to try our best I'm going to drag Bricky and D.K. We're going to drag Bricky and D.K. through this. We. We. We. We are the list. Me and my air quotes around that. We're going to drag you guys through this. series because again if a lot of people they're not going to have a chance to get this straight away so this is more of a we'll give you guys like the cool stuff that's happening in these books and then if you want to go out and definitely give them a read i highly encourage it because this is a fantastic series uh should we i mean try to get straight into it guys because i'm i'm going to be like actually ripping through this one and yeah no i think it's probably there's a lot of um i mean for the most part we try to pick and choose our 40k books very specifically because you can get quite depressed if you try to read everything because the quality varies substantially.

And so one of the reasons we really haven't delved the ton into some of the later Horacea and Ziegatera stuff is because we just didn't really want to. And better to have it explained like this to maybe wet the whistle a little bit and then kind of see about the possibility of doing something in the future. Also, Sieger Terra, the Redux, so to speak, is relatively new in the grand scheme of things. And yeah, with the Siege of Terror as well, I will say some of these books are a bit of hit and miss, but I will say a few of them may be some of the best in the Horacee series. Very excited when we get to those ones. But I'm going to start light because I want to bring everybody and their viewers in. I'm going to ask for you to just a nice, simple opening, which is. is what's your opinion on Horace, you know, what do you, what do you think of the guy?

What's, uh, how do you feel so far? You first, D.K. Oh, because we did, because we did read the first three Horacee books. We did not read flight of the, um, Albert Einstein, but, uh, we did. Eisenstein, yeah. I know, I know. I keep saying Einstein. Einstein.

I can't remember which one it is, but someone did call us out on that. Um, me and Andy have a, uh, a podcast, well, of lodcast. We actually are covering the Horace Harris. book by book if anyone wants to check that out. But watchcast is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so if anyone doesn't have any time to read the Horace eros, we have, we have an

opportunity there. But yeah, D.K., what do you, because obviously, you saw, like, the rise and fall of Horace in these opening books. Like, do you like the character? Do you enjoy, like, Horace's, like, speeches, like, who he is? Or do you think he's a bit of, like, he's overrated? Like, what's your opinion? You know, I, overall, like, memes is the same.

side. I do quite like Horace's character, just from like a, I don't know if I want to say a literary standpoint, but like when you, when you see him in these first books, he seems very, like, real, like he is stressed. He has got like the weight of the world on his shoulders. He speaks with the authority of the empire. And if you make one little mistake, congratulations, you have doomed everything. So, like, I think his story and his character are really, like, compelling and tragic, and he does turn into kind of an awful prick. But, like, I don't know. I, I think it is, I think he's a great character. He's, he is your main foil. He is big bad guy for, like, you know, the Horacee. So, yeah. Also, real quick, I don't know if this would be a

spoiler, but if people wanted to read the Siege of Terra, say, like, after this brief intro, how much of, like, the Horace heresy as a whole, like, all of the books, like, how much of a primer would you need? Or can you go in with just, like, sort of like, oh, I've been listening to Adrick for five years. It's fine. I can just go into Siege of Terror. This is the perfect question, because I would say anybody could just start straight away. It's just enhanced by the fact that we, like, if someone had read previous novels, there are certain parts where characters face off against each other and it enhances those scenes. But I wouldn't say in general, the writers do a good job of spreading, they introduce new characters and they spread the viewers like it's a wider battle, not just your following.

I wouldn't even say Horace doesn't even main stage until like the later half of it because it's, you know, it's the greatest siege in human history. So everyone's listening. you can go pick up the book straight away if you want. I'm sure people who are listening, and if they're just interested in Warhammer, it's already like prying for you just to enjoy it. Yeah. You don't have to date 60 books to be like,

oh, yeah, now I can get into Siege of Terra. If you want it after this episode, you can just go pick them up. Yeah, it helps. But again, I think they do a good job relatively of introducing everyone, like basically everyone is starting at the same place mostly. Although, again, there's some wiggle room people might disagree. But I'm going to, I want to intro this because I've got a, I've got a thing I need to, I've got a thing I want to get to, which is the greatest battle in the entire Imperium's history. And I'll start with a small quote, just a sentence.

We don't get to hear Bricky's take on Horace. Oh, sorry. Yeah, Bricky, go ahead. Sorry, Matt. Oh, I don't know how much of a take on Horace. I think, I think he's generally charismatic and he's enjoyable to read about in the, in the actual Horace Rising trilogy. and stuff like that. But he himself is just like, I don't know, he's just like a stressed out guy, which I can relate to, don't get me wrong. But with a, like, we don't really get a ton of his, like, backstory in terms of like growing up.

He's not that I remember. And a lot of the Primark's intrigue to me is that, is that time on their homeworld. Unless his backstory was brought up a lot more in the siege of Terra, but I remember him particularly, having quite a relaxed amount as opposed to like, I don't know, Caliban or barbarous or something like that. Oh yeah, even, I will say like for people who do read the Horace heresy, there's only a few short stories really about his origins. It's kind of a weird, like, I would say a black spot in terms

of like they could do something about that in the future because, you know, the Maitrain never stops. I would, yeah, it's one of the things like, the primates are there, but I love the fact, like, so many of these books, it's not just from the prim arts perspectives. They, like, the human characters are the shining star for me and a lot of them. Yeah, yeah, Horace is a, it's, yeah, so it's charismatic, but we're always like, it's like how we view Caesar or like, uh, either like Alexander. Like, we're, we're, we're, we're watching history unfold to them, not like with them in a sense. But as we'll start this episode, I'll start with a just a small sentence, which is the vibe. of this episode, which is, I never knew courage felt like fear.

Which is the, that's how it comes across to me. Because this will, this is not a happy place necessarily, but this is a battle that will see, well, basically the mythology of the Imperium like truly established. And our whole story starts with the part that we basically all know, which is that the heresy has been ravaging the Imperium for nearly a decade. Horace has achieved victory at this system called Beta Garmin, basically a massive, like, Titan battles and other crazy stuff happening. This beta Garmin system is the gateway towards the soul system. It's the next, like, jump.

Is that, like, where the mandival point is, like, the closest to soul, basically? I think so, yeah. I don't, again, with Horace's he stuff, who knows? because it doesn't give us ever like a good map of it. But it's the one where it's the key logistic line towards terror. And Horace has taken it with many of his forces. There's a massive second triumph at Eleanor, like a dark triumph. It's a very cool thing.

But I don't even have enough time to go into that because over the years of the heresy, dawn has wiped terror and the soul system. Like he's paved over it. He has taken the imperial palace. It's beauty, it's like marble halls, it's erecting bastions of beauty, and he has turned it into a fortified trench. Like, turrets are everywhere. Rock Creek tunnels are carved throughout the entire, like, landscapes, and the outer walls are solidified, sorry. And, like, parts around the Imperial Palace itself are flattened, other high cities are destroyed.

read the beauty that was once the imperial palace has been utterly turned into a military fortress, one that dawn has had nearly a decade to play with. So it's a kind of a symbol of like essentially what the times are. You know, it's the beauty of the past is turning into the grim dark future. But there's a bit of context we need to give before the siege of terror. This is not technically in the first book, but it would make no sense if we didn't know this, which is something called the Battle of Pluto. Now, you would think, are they just happy sitting in the soul system?

They weren't. Because over the years, the Alpha Legion, of course, everyone's favorite, you know, any, you know, most consistent plot line ever. They were infiltrating the system over the years, perhaps even decades before. And this culminated in a massive attack where they would basically make a, gambit for the outer regions of Pluto and the outer regions of the solar system. The Alpha Legion itself were in stasis and ships and they slowly crept towards the outer edge of the soul system and they would launch initial strikes against like small fortress moons that again in the very outer ring of what is the soul system. We're nowhere near terror yet.

And eventually they would sabotage these places much of the this is happening without terror's knowledge necessarily until Dawn and his Imperial Feast, they eventually catch on to this Pluto plot. There's a whole book about this. Again, not enough time because it's not the

main crux what we're discussing here, but this would lead into where eventually Dawn would confront Alfarious Omagon and the Primax would eventually duel on this little station near Pluto. And it's a small part

of this segment where alpharis is like him and dawn are like oh you know it's a brutal fight they're engaging in combat and alpharis is like almost like taunting dawn who dawn doesn't say anything and he says like oh if only you knew the tree you know you would side with us it's i'm not doing this for horrors i'm doing this for victory you know why they've betrayed the imperium yeah those words really worked out for like nathaniel gero and uh you know yeah talking to i don't think i've ever once in my in my entire life heard a situation we're trying to convince Dorn of something worked

he's just no well especially this too like he's so loyal to the to the Imperium that like there's there's just no chance there's a zero percent chance that Dorn ever goes heretical right no it's not he's Dorn cannot hear him

at least I think and this is where Dorn takes Alpharis is Alpharis is pretty quick and eventually the pale spear of Alphiars rams into his shoulder and then it locks in place and this is where we will read the first

quote here which I have would would Bricky like to read the first quote that starts with but victory yeah why the hell not it's pretty big scene yeah yeah no I got Where's, oh, the one you already posted?

Yes, yeah, yeah. Ah, gotcha. But victory, Alpharius gasped. Dorn rammed the spear through his brother's chest. The tip punched through the power plant on the back of Alfarious's armor. Afarious mouth opened, his eyes wide. A great wash of blood poured from between his teeth. Dorn held him on the spear.

The two so close that it seemed almost an embrace. The air around them was blurring like a heat haze as the blood. struck the floor. A high whale was rising with a coil of wind which circled the pair. Alpharis's mouth mood forming words. Dorn was still for a second. His eyes blank and black in the carved stone of his face. Then he pushed Alfarious away. Snakes of light writhe through the air. The primark of the Alpha Legion staggered, mouth still moving. Rogal Dorn brought Storm's teeth around. The blade cut down through Opharius's skull and then tore free in a

spray of blood and a detonation of light. The last planet of the solar system turned to silence. Dorn did indeed kill the man. Yeah, he bisected his, oh boy, brother. Yeah,

it's pretty, this is a legit primark death here. He, first of all, even just before this, he cut off his hands, because with the spear, like, lodged in his shoulder, he pinned Alpharius and then took advantage of that. I was going to say, quick question, you're like, how do you guys feel about Primark deaths in general?

I wish there were more of them. I do think they make a, like, maybe only one or two to be, like, conservative, but I generally think, like, they have such impact in the heresy, particularly. And I said, D.K., how do you feel about Primark deaths? I, I, too, am good with Primark deaths, as long as they, stick with it. Because I feel like this, this, sometimes it feels like that situation where a writer's like,

man, it sure would be an impactful moment if I killed this really beloved big time character. But I kind of need them for future stuff I have planned, so we're going to put in a little McGuffin to revive them. We'll, you know, Angron, I kind of need him for a villain. Coren brought him back. Vulcan,

he's a perpetual. He's still got stuff to do. So I'm cool with primark deaths as long as like the impact isn't lost because like, oh look, we revived them. They're still here. Yeah, that's a big issue I run into is the bringing the back, bringing the back type thing. Um, I actually think one of the biggest things and I, this, this grows very annoying to me all

the time is a lack of like character weight. And I think it's actually one of the main reasons why I've really enjoyed the smaller books is because often when, you know, guardsman guy I really like dies, nothing's. bringing him back. Nope. You know, he is, he is dead for certain, and that carries way more narrative weight. It makes, it makes me think of the, of the goddamn Marvel movies. Because, like, when you, when you finished off, like, end game and Tony Stark dies,

it's got this, like, really hefty weight to it all. And it's, it's, you know, all that strength there. And then, like, you know, you even had, like, Loki killed in the beginning. And then they made a Loki show. Because once you multiverse the shit, you can never, like, like, then anyone can come back and then you kill all the emotional. wait to it all. Exactly.

And it bugs a hell out of me. And I'm really glad that even though they occasionally play with timey whimy bullshit in 40K, it's normally like more as like a plot device and not something that's actually controlled. Like, oh, what was it, Balfield Gothic where like, oh, yeah, we've been stuck in the warp forever. Things like that.

But besides that, it's very much like I really want them to stay dead. I wish Ferris Manus was more developed, but I do want him to stay dead. dead still. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be kind of weird of Ferris Manas came back. Like bringing Sanguinius back just feels like the, that feels like, like, uh, narrative

abortion. Like the half of this whole stick. Yeah. Well, I mean, half of this whole stick is like the blood angels is like San Quineas dying and them all going mad. Yeah. That's like their whole gimmick is like because sanguinius died. That's the way they are.

Yeah. Although I do think it would be kind of funny to see like sanguinius come back and be like, What the hell happened? That's for the sitcom episode. We can save that for later. Well, luckily, this is a real one. This has confirmed that this is a primark death. And when this happens, the Alpha Legion do retreat,

but they've, of course, there's been plenty of sabotage and damage. And it's not the main damage that they actually have done here, which I'll go to explain it a second. But this is the part that you're going to hate. but Omagon, who is actually Alphar, the Alpharis who grew up on terror, the first Primark found technically, he became Omagon and he's the one who assumes the sole role of Alpharius Omagon, and he feels his brother's death at the moment it happens, which is pretty sad when it's, it isn't a separate story, but it's a real primar death, and surprisingly it happened to the

Alpha Legion. But the real problem is that in some way, of course, it's an Alpha Legion, lot. The real danger was that the Alpha Legion stole the plans for the soul system, and they would give this to Horace on Ulinaw when a legionary who claims to be Alpharius shattered a blade in his hand, and this was in front of the Warmaster, and it was severed the bond, and the Alpha Legion en masse, there's a few like Alpha Legion legionaries at some point, but the Legion on mass would play no role in the seed of terror to come. But this is where where we, this is where I'm so excited now, because the solar war now, this is a few years or maybe even a few months later. Again, dates are a bit hard to sort of collect to get in the

horror's heresy. I assume head cannon, it's only a few months later. The solar war is beginning. The strategy has been set, like, even though the plans have been stolen, it's, like, they just still have to do it. Sigismund, first captain Sigismund, my beloved ball, king, he will hold a contingent of imperial fists and this will hold the outer orbits of the system. I've actually attached a map if you see

somewhat far back in the chat bit here. Maybe hopefully you can have it on screen in the edit for people as well. This is the map of the soul system. So you can have like a they actually like illustrate these and like these beautiful pieces for each of this. I love this. I love

this map. This is so John Blanchie. I I absolutely adore this map. It's so cool. It looks like it's just on a, on a like a parchment paper, and it's just, oh, it's just so great. That's just so aesthetic.

Because, again, we're watching the mythology of the Imperium that will be in the grimed art future. We're watching it play out right now. And the cool part is, like, as I go through this next bit, you can follow along on the map in the different stages. So Sigismund is like the outer orbit near where like Pluto and the other. the fortress moons are. And eventually, Fleetmaster Halbracht, not Helbract,

Halbract, he was of the Imperial Fist, he will hold another wave near Uranus, as Seneschal Ephrit, who, I think he's just a regular human, he holds a sphere of battle near Jupiter. And then eventually we get even further in the system where Imperial Fist, Camber Diaz, who will see in the next episode, if we do next episode of these things, he's an amazing character who will follow. But again, to stick into the battle, Camberdius holds a sphere that's blockading Mars, because spoilers for people, Mars turned traitor at some point, and their Dark Mechanicum just basically runs free on Mars, and they just blockaded it. Dawn is in the phalanx, and he holds the final sphere, which is near Terra and Luna. And this is where most of the

remaining white scars and blood angels flints are. And then this is where we get to see, I think, one, the, there's a few parts in this series of why like, is why I had to bring it to the you guys to talk about it. They, you know when they say like in, um, like in video games or other things where like each image is like an art piece.

This piece here I can picture in my brain, which is the traitor fleet begin to arrive from the warp and the outer edges. And hundreds of thousands of smaller vessels, they slam into enormous minefields. It creates a massive wall of death

and explosions, but this was expected. And the traitors knew it was going to happen, because obviously they had the plans, and the loyalists knew it, but this is like where all the fodder is used to like take the brunt of all this like pain and death. And Sigismund sees it

happened, and he powers his fleet forward to strike at the sons of Horace. A few of his friends die as they board ships. He duels with Little Horace Axi-Mand. remember from Horace Rising in the earlier Trilogies. I can't go into his story yet, but basically he looks really ugly at the moment. People who know

will know. He duels with Little Horace and he almost wins, but he pulls back. Some of his friends die. It's pretty brutal. The outer rings around Pluto, they fall pretty quick. Halbract begins to engage Pertarabos, like a small fleet of Perter Robo and his iron warriors near Jupiter. And they're just trying to delay at this point. No one's trying to necessarily win, but they're just trying to buy as much time as possible. And the loyalists will eventually pull back towards like the inner cause and the inner spheres,

they call it. A small tidbit, which is quite interesting is that we see here like the perspectives of new Astartis, like who have been raised during the Horace heresy, like even from the Sons of Horace and like other legions and their perspectives. Like we see them and like their vision. of this new war where they don't have like the traditions of the legions they weren't there during the Great Crusade and they often get used as like little can fodder as well. So lots of people are dying. Of course. There's actually a bit of a theme as the series goes. I mean, I think it's more

of a warhammer thing, but I get what you're trying to say. Yeah, lots of people are giving like, they're holding on and they're giving their lives just to buy like a minute because that's every second is valuable. The Halbrax does engage Pertharabo, but they're just around Jupiter, but they're just again delaying, they're pulling back towards a second sphere. There's happening over like hours as well,

it's not like just instantly. There's these things called the Elysian and catholic gates, which are their old dark age technology. They let people like if you travel towards these gates, they let you enter, like walk travel quicker. So if you hold them, one them I think is near

Pluto, one's near Uranus, if I remember from them. So it's a logistical speed up basically. Yeah, it allows people to bring for, well, exit the solar system quicker, but if it's in the wrong hands, bring more traitor forces in quick, like even faster. Halbrack and Efried eventually they, they pull back to the second sphere. They start to engage elements of night lords and emperor's children, not fun, those two together. And eventually they have, they are forced to go back to terror eventually. This is in tandem where Campadias engages dark mechanicum.

So there are other dark mechanicum like fleets, not just the one that was on Mars itself. He has to fight them because they're trying to retake Mars and basically free the dark mechanicum on Mars to then basically fuel the fleets of Horus and the armies of Horace. And he has to pull back towards Luna. This is a work of cool scene here where many of the white scars and blood angels ships, we see from the Astati's perspective, they basically make death oaths. They know they're not coming back from this.

They make suicide missions. And they basically board. As opposed to like a regular oaths of mortars. Yeah, as opposed to like, they're just doing it. They're supposed to like hit and run. This is they are boarding enemy vessels and they are just killing as many as they can. So they did they give their lives.

Yeah. It gets worse. And then we see a part where like when they're boarding like the ships or other white, Scar vessels are like attacking Vanguard elements of the Sons of Horus. Eventually, we see Abadon because Abadon is not sitting about doing nothing. He's going to have some fun.

He wouldn't. Yeah. No. There's a cool fight where Abadon, he fights Jubal Khan of the White Scars. He's like a pretty high up member of Jagatai's Legion. And they fight in like this zero gravity because Jubal like basically sabotage of the ship. and then him and Abadon are like flying in the air, trying to hit each other.

Eventually, it's pretty fun. Abadon does win. He rams his blade in Jubal's gut and just kicks him off as he floats in the air. It's pretty sad. I'll say, I'm going to ask you guys here, can you guys think of any of your favorite warhammer jewels off the cuff

or any like fight scenes that maybe stick out to you? Because this is one of the ones why I think it hits my brain. I mean, I'm not going to. I mean, my answer is going to be relatively unsurprising, I think. Oh, do go for it, right? Oh, I mean, it's without a doubt it's, um, Zarl versus the, uh, Genesis chapter

Marine in the. Oh, and yeah, yeah. Night Lord's book because it's, it's genuinely quite sad, despite the fact that Zorro's a massive piece of shit. It's like, yeah, yeah, he's just kind of like, I, you know, some ultra the ultimate was saying some speech about like, ah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, this is first claw. They're my friends. I know they're going to die like they live trying to run away. And I'm like, that's great. That's great. That's good stuff. But, um, no, I mean, I don't know. That's one of my top ones I can think of. Oh, man. What do you think? What do you think? I can't think of any duels that just like immediately pop out in my head. It's weird when you're like, oh, what doils do you like immediately? I was like, um, what was it? Was it? Was it?

Khan that was dueling Arabis? And then just absolutely bodied the shit out of them. Oh, Karn. Yeah, yeah. I said Kahn, didn't I? Yeah.

Immediately, I was like, man, boy, do I wish Karn had killed his ass before he could teleport away. Like, that's the first thing that jumped out of my head. I was just, God damn you, we're up as. You know, I will... The get-up fight. Yeah, the get-up fight.

I will say, now that I think about it a little bit more, I do, even though it's less of a fight, the final. ending to the first heretic, the Galvorback versus the custodians. It's less of a duel. It's more of like a, like a, just a small skirmish of a couple of people. But, um, the, the narrative weight of that part is just so pronounced. You know what?

Shai says human angron versus rabutei. I actually got to agree with that one. The, the rebute against Lorgar, which then turned into human angron against Rubutei. and then human anger on gets turned into the demon england what's the thing he says of like what would you know perfect son of yeah yeah what would you know of strife or something like that

like you know it's good stuff naya the wolf nigh of the wolf's pretty good too there's a lot of good well hummers despite having hundreds and thousands of jewels probably they do quite a good job at somehow reinventing it each time and in

some novels i'll say not not everyone gets their flowers. But I'll say at this point, the loyalists think is actually going quite well. They're doing a bit better than their predicted schedule. But there's a bit of a problem. There's no horace. There's no main like Astati's vessels other than the Iron Warriors ones like we've seen near Jupiter. And it's revealed here that Ariman and a contingent of the thousand sons, along with word bearers, disgusting, they've been enacting this secret ritual and they've been using the bloodshed of these, like this opening conflict, and they tear a piece of reality open or like near the sun.

The sun's light is blocked on terror. It falls into darkness as horace, the vengeful spirit, the pride of the emperor, the conqueror, all the like the main like ships you can think of like that are terrifying in the 40K, like, you know, the first, like a second millennium. they all tear out together as, you know, the throne world basically is like Horace is here. That's why he wasn't in the initial engagement. Yeah, that's not what you want to see him, Tara. That's not when you want to look up and be like, where'd the sun go?

Oh, no. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, the devil is here, basically. Yep. And this is where we see Sigismund eventually, he pulls back to terror as well when in tandem, Abidon, who has re-ignited his forces and I've regathered them, He makes an assault for the gene vaults on lunar, which is where the Selenar, well, there used to be the Selenar cults. I think there's some stuff on that, but again, it's not integral to the main battle itself, but they eventually secure these gene vaults, which they will be using as a later day, I assure you. Dawn prepares the phalanx to counterattack this, like, initial lunar engagement.

And this is where we see, again, I'm missing out some subplots for this one, but a small one throughout the book has been Garville-Loken, boy, he showed up and he's actually rescued Mercedes Ollerton, who was actually kept in a prison, basically the promotion from Marcia Norah's heresy because she had seen too much. And they've been reunited together. Mercedes-Aulton. That was the remembrance. Yeah, his personal remembrance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I think maybe they pronounce it differently in the audiobooks. So sometimes I have a hard time. Mercedes-Dade or something like that. Yeah, it's not like that. Now, that ain't my boy, Ignais carcassi, though. No. That ain't my weird, creepy, pervert-ass.

Ignace Carcassie. No, he was a, he was a corpse. Long at the... He was very dead. He died a while ago. What was the lady's name that was like the, the, the, was almost deified in those books? What was her name? Ela.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would not... He will come up again in this one. She has to, right? She absolutely has to. Oh, so I was going to say, boy, it's a good thing. thing the ultramarines aren't here.

Well, that's some, that's some scowling stuff there. That's just come out as a time of recording as well. So it's very, again, no time for this because I've got to plow onto the cool stuff, which is Mercedes been like rescued by Loken and they arrive aboard the phalanx. Loken is, of course, like basically a Marines errant slash Lunar Wolf at this point.

He's like his own master or helps work with Malkador. And Mercedes has been having this horrible. journey throughout the soul system. Like she's basically been like she's been escaping the incoming traitors because she's seen in a dream a warning that she has to deliver

to dawn personally. And I'm going to say I was hoping D.K. We might be able to read out this next excerpt because this is something that happens when she's on board and she's speaking to Loken.

It's excerpt number two. Excerpt number two. Let's see. Ah, got it. Sam is, that sound that voice, Loken said.

I've heard that voice before. Oh, no. Oh, God, I was like, I remember this. I'm sorry. Sam Mew is.

Loken's gun was in his hand. The Huss-Carls were moving, turning. Shadows were spreading up the wall. Everything was distant like something happening on a pick screen hung just in front of her face.

There was someone behind her, just behind her, a shadow. He is his. Loken snapped around to look at her. What did you say? Samus is here, she said, and backhanded Loken into the wall. He struck it with a sound of shearing seramite.

Mercedes looked at her hand. It was red. Guns roared around her, red fire, blinking, red on her hand. I am always here, the voice said, I am the man beside you. Oh, yeah. Oh, Samis is here. Oh, Samus is here.

Yeah. Oh, Samis. Yes. You whispered into my eardrums for the first half of that book. M.Strecht Prime was not that good, Samus. If you're wondering why Mercedes. Four. If I was wondering why Mercedes-D essentially has this problem, it's because it's a thing of during basically when they were escaping from the,

or this is stuff in the flight of the Eisenstein, but essentially when she was part of the fleet and the time, of like the second book, False Gods. She forgot that, or she didn't know, essentially, that basically a demon had been implanted in her. And it was Samus is here. Samus is the man beside you. And he basically manifests a board in the middle of the phalanx.

Demons are everywhere. It's bad. So the salangues is not going to help anybody. Dawn begins to duel Samus. And again, Dawn is a prime mark. He does a pretty good job. But it's not working. people like the demons aren't dying so in their vaults dawn goes like i think i don't know if it's dawn

uh who specifically says it or might be another character people might have to fact check me on this one but one the characters eventually goes unleash the psychers who have been kept in like a prison since the edicts of nikea and the psychers just or the imperial fist they just go out and they start munching demons like it's everywhere like people are dying in droves obviously most of the phalanx is bordered by regular humans. Samus is eventually beaten. And then Samus is the man beside you again, because Samus keeps coming back.

You can't kill Samus. But eventually, the demon is banished when Mercedes sacrifices herself because she realizes like she's the anchor point, much to, you know, Loken's heartbreak because he loses another friend. The traitors are close, though. This is, like, the phalanx has been wounded.

The traitors are way too close to, and they're not battle ready. So Dawn will eventually order that the phalanx and the rest of the surviving fleet just go into hiding and then we'll pull back towards the palace for the ground war. We see the grand... It's such a huge loss to lose the phalanx. Well, yeah, no, it's not gone though, but it's not, it's going to be mauled by Horace's. Oh, yeah. For all intents and purposes, it's out of the war.

And it's like, oh, that's a big piece to lose. I mean, that was a lot of Horace's main point was, or sorry, a plan was to just shove a lot of things out of the war so that he had time to siege terror, like force the dark angels and the ultramarines away. This is post-ruin storm, right? They've already, the Arabis has already built that up to keep people away. Yeah. So Sukhasen, who is like the Grand Admiral, again, an amazing character in the books if people want to go read this series. she takes, she's given command of the phalanx and all the surviving elements of the fleet

and they go for what's a large portion to hide in like this sort of the massive scape of Jupiter and they'll just wait for an opportunity to strike and the first book ends with Horace with the aid of the chaos gods begins to fight the emperor in the war this is like represented as like mythology in a sense

like Horace is not a man but he's a wolf and there's extra walls that surround Horace and they're each representing the chaos gods and this is where Horace says, you know, I will break you father, I will kill you, I will take your throne. So this is the end of the first main book.

And not to even, this is the part where this is the interactive section technically because we're going to explain what the actual sieges now, because this is just been above the planet. And everyone who's on terror is like, shite, like I'm next. This is the part where,

I'm going to refer you guys to the next map. And I'll explain it as I can for the audio listeners only. But this is the map of the Siege of Terror. It's the one which has Helios Gate on the top right-hand corner. This is the one that is the reference for our next piece here. And this is just a bit to explain, again, because we're just going to explain the battle here. We're not explain the actual siege. And for scale, for people listening, the Imperial Palace is the size of the size of

Tibet. And I'm not joking. Like it is the, sorry, the size of Tibet. The, it is the entire size of, it is basically Tibet. It is all of Tibet. It is that big.

It is a, it is like every capital city on earth next to each other and still twice as big as that. Was I not on the Imperial Palace episode? Was that when I was gone and it was just D.K. Oh, that's right. I think you were because I was like, oh yeah, I remember talking about how the Imperial Palace episode.

is just on an unearthly, ridiculously large scale. So, yeah, to me, I'm just like, oh, yeah, we talked about this. And it's like, that's right. You weren't here for that. No, I wasn't. But that's kind of hysterical that it is, in fact, the size of Tibet. Yeah. And in that case, we should be freeing it.

It gets more. It gets more. This is the, this is the imperial palace of the horror's heresy. So you will probably never see this palace again. again in the same state. The 40K palace is a monstrous thing compared to what even this is, but it is a size of a entire country. And you'll see you guys on the map here. It's, Dawn cleared this out around the palace, and it's a place called the Catabatic Plains. It's basically just desert all around is to give the invading forces no cover. But remember,

like, when we're saying that that empty space, that empty space is like the size of like multiple states. It is in like there's nothing for miles and miles. And just to give you like a rundown. So of course, like starting in the top left hand corner is, of course, the most important thing. It's the sanctum imperialis. This is where the emperor sits on the golden throne. It's the inner core. And in also housed inside the sanctum imperialis is something called the Aegis, which people have know that name from mythology or maybe have played, um, what is it, uh, age of Empires 2 and then are the cheat codes. Essentially, this is a...

Yes, thank you, hell. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is a dark age of technology self-replicating shield dome and it's designed to cover the entire Imperial Palace from orbital bombardment. So the traitors can't just shoot them from the sky and it's over. We then move next to what I can see is in like the sort of middle area of the Imperial Palace.

And this is called the Lions Gate. specifically though, I think it's called the Lionscate Spaceport as well. I'll get into the specifics of it here, which is the Lionsgate Spaceport is perhaps the largest spaceport, maybe in the Imperium, but definitely the largest one on Terra. It is enormous. Again, think of scale. It's the size of a small country, this spaceport. Yeah, well, I was going to say, it looks like it's bigger than the Sanctum Imperialis almost. Like, if you look at them at that, it's either a little smaller or the space port.

same side. But it has, it's, because it's, this is designed to be the capital city of a galaxy spanning empire. It's sky docs can hold like entire legion fleets. It sits next to the actual, the actual lion's gate is just behind it, which is then guarded by certain bastions. If you maybe notice, the imperial palace is like a modern bailey castle design, if you, if you've ever heard of that before, which is like a inner core at the top, like protects on the hill and then like a sort of lower core at the bottom. So if people wanted to, they could retreat to the upper core, much like in, I think it might be Anglo-Saxon history. So it's quite similar of that design where if there's a problem in the, you know, most of the Imperial Palace,

everyone can retreat past the Lionsgate, past the Eternity Gate into the Inner Sanctum. And the sort of the forts that are around the Lion's Gate, not the Spaceport, but the actual lion's gate, the one that guards just before the eternity gate of the inner sanctum, there's some big bastions and they're going to be very famous throughout this series because there's a lot of huge conflicts that happen around here, as the traitors will eventually push in. The Munson Note are like colossi, Gorgon Bar, they are often used as like command bunkers, so we'll often see Dawn throughout those ones, which is very cool.

Then we have another one which is called Eternity Spaceball. It's a smaller one, as you might be able to see on the map. For the audio people here, it's on the, I say far right, top right-hand side of the Imperial Palace, basically right next to the walls. This one will be important as well. Again, not as big as the Lionsgate one, though. It's not pretty big, yeah, still the size of a meber. Like, that's the, that is all of Europe in there, almost inside of every city ever. The long sections, like the outer core of the palace will eventually be taken.

but the actual walls, they are divided up into theaters of war, which is much like the Normandy beaches, they have like unique names. So you have ones like eternity, Europa, daylight, saturnine, dusk, sanctus, adamant, montane, tropic, and it goes on and on and on. But there's like some of the ones that are like important to remember and you can kind of see them dotted around the map. And then the last like big thing to remember is the gates. There's only a few of them, but they're the big entrances to the Imperial Palace. We have one that is Koshito, which is in the south, and then Helios in the east. Helios will be the one that we discuss now. These, again, like, the Imperial Palace is enormous.

It's a lot for people to wrap their head around, but this is the general problem for the traitors that we will see. They have to make their way through all of this. And if you're thinking about, man, you know, again, from one end to the other, you're marching essentially 100 kilometers. or more. So this is the big, again, when I say the biggest siege in imperial history, like this is the scale we're dealing with.

And this is where we cut to a scene where Horace begins firing a single shell which lands in the Aegis shield. And it's much to be like, it's a single flaming arrow before a medieval seed. It's an indication that the battle begins now. And he's doing it for the other prime marks we see in the book that they react to it. really like interesting to see you there yeah it's more of a more of a message than it is any real attempt at like oh yeah this is going to get through it's just like a a yo death is coming well don't worry the message is about to hit because then the sky is filled with the fire of

thousands and thousands of ships like the egypt shield lights up across the entire size of it and it said it's so bright like it would blind people and even the astati's basically like they do that funny gulp. Even the Astardis feel a sense of dread. Well, not like dread. It's not like Astati's dread, but they have, they understand what's happening. It's kind of like, I feel like the writers always have to struggle with this because they're always like, yeah, all the Astardis know no fear, except for this one time where it was really scary. And therefore, if they could know fear, they would have known fear.

They write that in the books all the time of like they don't know. They can't know this. But if they could, here is when it would happen type thing. I think it's a thing of they do feel fear. They just don't like to call it that essentially. Yeah. But we next see basically all of the citizens of terror have been conscripted. So all of the, you know, the billions of people, they are thrown together into these, like these massive mixed regiments.

And all across the imperial palace. they are on giant trains and they are sent and like corral to different front lines. We see particularly they have dug a much, not the outer walls, but the ones that are the walls of just the Imperial Palace, not the ones that you see on the map. They're like on the outer edge of the system. These ones have trench lines established in front of them. Like, you know, like basically ones that are designed to have it so you can fall back continuously as the enemy will eventually get closer.

But there's no Astati's in these ones. These are all manned by people. Just regular people like you and me. You'll follow Mosi in this book, the perspective of a poor, nervous wreck called Katzahiro, who's just a regular guy. And he's like, what am I doing here? And shout to the scene where he's cramped in a room and someone farts near him. Hilarious.

Excellent. Just a bit of humor. But then he is trudged through mud and snow, miles out to like the fifth trench line and it's here where we see one of my favorite scenes in this book, which is the enemy begins their landing. Thousands and thousands of transports of the lost and the dam. So these are like the people who are like mortal traitors, like, you know, guard, army, like mixed regiments, other things. These are the ones who have sided with horace.

And hordes of traitor army mutants and my beloved beastmen, the beastmen get a shout out here. There's an amazing scene where the beastmen are in like these like holes and they're like there's these word bear apostles like ride them up like a kind of, you know, like a mega church speech being like, they have betrayed you, but you are people, are you not? That's how revenge. And then all these beastmen are like bleating and decrying regular humans.

And they're saying, we are beasts. And it's getting like pretty like, again, crazy wild up, hectic. They know a conflict has come in. the ramps of these doors open and poor Katzahiro and his regular people, men and women,

see this stampeding horde rushing towards them. A favorite scene is when Katzahiro sees a beastman who has, I think it's just a pipe with a massive logging nut on it. He just beans someone headed,

like beans someone's head into pole. And then he ends up like crying out, being like, ah, and he just like ends up stabbing him, I think with his bayonet, like shooting. Like this is a cool bit

because like Cat's Hero is like, I need to learn to be a soldier quickly. There is definitely defecation in my pants, but I have to do this. I'm not going to die. We see like mutants and people who have like mutants on chains and like hulking ogrens and other things. This is the first like conflict that begins. And meanwhile, this is happening because this is a distraction. This is, this is the meat hoard of both sides fighting each other. Yeah, that's a fair and valid shit yourself moment.

Yeah. It's even scarier in the book because they just like emerge out of like mist and you just hear the noise first. So it's terrifying. Like as this is happening, Legion fighters and artillery ships, but they don't stop firing at the Aegis shield. They never stop throughout this entire book or like any of the books. They never stop. That's how much ammo they brought for this Eid terror. God. They are they're under Perterabo's orders because Perterabo's smart guy. They're doing some thinking because the Aegis is a problem for the traitors. So they start to. work out that if we overload certain sections, we can create tiny gaps in the Aegis shield. And sometimes they are able to use up. They throw like 10 legion fighters and like, you know, nine of them die, but one of them makes it in. And then they start bombing the inner palace and the guns or the walls have to start opening up before they were ready. It's, again, I can't get across like how brutal this opening conflict is because it's just people dying in droves. And, but luckily, the Imperium's whole thing. The outer trench lines have maybe had, you know, just a casual milly people have died in the first few days, but they've held and they retreat back to the next line.

This is where we get the dark mechanicum because they decided like, we need to, we need to hurt people. So they begin to land these enormous structures, which are ones. They literally have to land like as a whole thing and it plops down from the sky. and they're landing siege camps and guns around the Imperial Palace. You can see them represented on the map as well. These are the main ones. So basically they're surrounding and cutting off the entire Imperial Palace, which is, again, the size of Tibet. This is bad because there's a bit of a thing.

Sorry, Hal. Just the sternness of it. This is bad because I'm like, you don't even need to tell me why. I believe. You get it. We got you. But as a sort of like to bring it a slightly lighter, the, there's a slight, like, the battle is not constant. Like with most conflicts, things happen in waves.

And at one point, sanguineous himself, he ventures beyond the wall, because his very presence inspires hope in the people. And, you know, for people who have been fighting for a few weeks and, you know, they've seen like the worst things imaginable. Seeing someone who is, you know, objectively beautiful and perfect and clean in a, and a. clean world, a sort of thing. It's a nice bit of hope. And then the enemy and the dark mechanicum are landing there, the chips and it's, it's basically ramping up again. But against Dawn's orders, Sanguineas does not retreat back into the walls, where all the, like, the legionaries are standing on top of the walls. He stands with Katzahiro and the people. And this is where I will ask Bricky to read out, which I think is excerpt three, if I double check. This is the

one which starts with the screams of jets. Ah, yes. So the screams of jets cut through the boom and thwack of the palace defenses. High and pure an orchestra of a thousand engines, land speeders, jet bikes, gunships, and attack craft. A storm of white shapes dropped precipitously off the wall, then raced over the outworks towards the siege camp facing the Helios Gate. Sanguinius smiled as his brother roared by an on, sorry, Sanguinius smiled. mild as his brother roared by on an oversized jet cycle and tilted stubby wings in salute mortals ducked so close to the ground where the white scars were flying i just like sanguineous looking at the con this big ass bike and being like yeah yo you go man look at him go this is where the pre like a few moments before this the jagatai khan had said because dawn's ultimate dawn's in charge Dawn's ultimate defense plan is delay and hold, whereas Jagatai Khan notices all the people giving their lives outside of the walls, and he says, if I go out there, he asks Sanguinius,

who has prescience, he says, if I go out there, will I save lives? And Sanguania says, yes, you will. So the white, you know, the white scars in Jagatite, they defy orders from Dawn, and they sally out of the Helios gate and they just slam into the dark mechanica and they're landing these massive like siege engines and they literally like they're

they even saying that there's the book they grab them their toll wars and they're like cleaving through and their bikes are slamming into bodies as they make you know as their tactics are like you know first in first out they are utterly ricking these mechanican forces who are not prepared for

you know it makes no sense of Sally out at this point what are they doing But again, Jagu Tai Khan will save lives. He is not an animal to be cage. He is the wind, as they say often. As very too many times in this book, my man's a bit windy, apparently. This is going really well.

And all the blood angels and cats, Katsu Hero at this point is like yelling because he starts running alongside Sangonius and the blood angels and they start charging the enemy. The problem is they're caught out because then the death guard arrive. The traitor primarks in orbit have been arguing because there's a problem with the

traitor primates can't really land on terror because the emperor's power is stopping them. There's a bit of a, you know, they have to get to make some more progress there. And long ago, Horace had promised Mortarian that he could be the first one on terror. So the death guard has started

attacking. The poor Khan, his bike is hit and he goes down. Meanwhile, the white scars are already retreating back towards the Helios gate. And the death guard, when they see a meal, you know, the stinky meal, they start going for it. So the plague marines and all these twisted, bloated forms of the death guard, because no one's seen the death guard since, you know, other parts of the Horrors heritage. This is the first time they ever see them as plague marines. They just start swarming poor Jagatai Khan, who is miles from the Helios Gate.

But Jagatai Khan's not exactly a vulnerable man. And so he just starts absolutely cleaving through them until he is stabbed, I think, in his ankle by an infected, like, warp blade. And he starts slowing down. He's still killing like a hundred, like, you know, every minute that passes. Yeah, he's still a prime mark, but yeah. But it gets to the point where JaguSai Khan is drowning in body. I think like the death card is throwing themselves at him and he's on a mountain of corpses anyway. until, and then like the smog is like choking the air,

he's, he can feel the infection in his blood, he's slowing, he's going to die, he says, I am Jagatai Khan, like, this is my death, so be it, until one of his sons in the air, rocket jumps off his bike and rockets into the pile of deathguard, like just buying Jagatai enough time to wrench the poison blade in his ankle. this white scar immediately gets cut in half by a great axe. He saved his Khan, and this is where Sanguineus cats the hero and the Blood Angel, they like slam into the death guard and they saved Jagatai,

and they managed to sort of retreat back to the Helios Gate and the further trench lines. This is where I want to ask you guys, which Primark has the most aura? Because I would almost argue, like, this series and these, like, with Sanguilius and the Khan, they almost compete for top spot. At this moment, it's got to be. Jagatai, right? Like, obviously love the aura of Sanguineas. Best boy. But Jagatai just fighting tooth and nail on a mountain of plague marines and just still going and still just like being the

bastion of humanity is that's, that's some pretty chad behavior. I'm going with Jagatai for now. Mm, good choice. Well, you mean, well, you say aura. Like, the, Fine aura, man. Because that concept can be negative. I would say it as the presence of them is, as in like when people describe the presence of Lorgar, they describe it as almost, it's like almost seeing the emperor in some sense.

I don't know. Do you, if a primate was before you, which it would be, what would you start the most? Stummy the most? I mean, that probably would be like,

like, seguinious probably. Yeah. But I don't know. Like when I think about it, don't they say that the, the prime mark that most resembles the emperor is the lion? I think in terms of mental, like, mindset, but in terms of actual physical, uh, like their physicality and that how they look, people often say, um, like, Lorgar is the most, well, as in like, in people's perception of the emperor, because obviously we don't know what he really truly looks like, but people often say Lorgar has his face. Yeah, Lorgar has, has like the, the, the, the. visual aspect. But I don't know. They always said the lion is, it's the one that

closely resembles the emperor. And they always are referring to 30K lion, which means he's a massive asshole. And like, so, yeah. A really bad guy. I think he's such an ass in 30K. He really is. He comes across that way, doesn't he? The emperor, like, we've seen that speech I always bring up where he's like, oh, yeah, these aren't actually my sons. Like, I made them. What else are they going to call me? Fuck him. I need to be a tyrant. He's not exactly a good guy.

In his prime market novel, there's a few scenes where he meets the emperor. And that's the part where often, like, he even just straight up says, like, they're so similar. Or as in like this, they're almost, you know, they don't have to talk that much because their inner will and aspect is so aligned. So I do think, again, like the lion is the emperor's son in that sense. but I think if I was to meet a promulch and I was stunned by aura, it probably would be the Khan in terms of, if I saw him doing something, yeah, but just standing still, it would be sanguinius because obviously the wings, the angelic nature, the pristine armor, just beautiful person in general and yeah. Got me thinking, you know, do I even like women, you know, sanguineas? He's so beautiful.

Why don't those two? Just tucking the hair behind my ear like, hey. But as this point... Yeah. Yeah, so the, you know, it's quieted down for a moment. It's been following this, there's weeks of fighting between the Imperial Palace's mortal defenders and the lost and the damned. Sometimes a death guard appear in engagements. People are getting sick just because obviously there's a.

myasma, there's like a general toxicity in the warp is starting to infect slightly in places. There's a funny scene where one of the word bearers who's, the apostle who's in charge of the word bearer contingent, his name is Zarduley, don't worry, he's only basically in this Cedatir series and barely in other parts of the horror's heresy. So don't worry if you're not heard of him. But he's a psycher and he creates like this island of floating bone that tries to like give traitor propaganda being like, the emperor's a liar. He has deceived you and people try to fire guns through like this.

Ah, yes. Orition. It doesn't work. Ah, yes. Propaganda. Mm. Yeah, well, the emperor may lie, but, you know, I mean, like, he also, he also might deceive, too, you know, there's also occasional bits of those. I believe it's called Lil deception.

It's fine. Um, essentially, uh, over the weeks, they are peeling back towards, uh, they are peeling back towards, uh, these inner trench lines and eventually the last one surrounding the Helios gate. So they've not actually, no traitors have entered the Imperial Palace on mass. Eventually, at some point, with all this engagement, this corruption, all this like bloom fire and all this artillery and again, these siege towers that have been established, um, demon Angron just goes, I've had it up to it. I'm sick of your shit, Horace.

I'm not waiting any longer. and he rockets down, like he jumps off a ship and rockets down to terror and slams onto the surface. Poor cats are hero and the mortals around him see it. They nope, they nope out of it because they start to shatter and run back towards the Helios Gate. As in tandem, the world eaters and night lords attack the Helios gate walls. This is where, do you know the raptor from the night lord? Yes, Lucorphus first on the walls, baby! Yes, yes, yes.

Lucorp is number one on the walls, baby. Let's go. This is his, like, I guess, he makes an offhanded comment that character when he says, man, my feet kind of feel like they're turning into talons in this section of the book. So it's like, oh, you know, the raptor corruption has begun this one. Yeah, so the night lords and the world eaters are basically attacking in tandem because the night lords are like, you know, might as well get some honour, if, you know, whatever that means to them. Meanwhile, the blood angels and imperial fist, they are trying to fight them off this, you know,

critical structure points. Obviously, the Helios gates are, you know, that would basically be a gateway into the inner core of the Imperial Palace. We see here, it started as a joke until people realized what it, you know, what it really was. Because we see great, like, enormous corrupted Nergel siege towers that look like medieval, siege towers, but they are bloated and full of pus and flesh and other parts. Yeah, the traitors are in, they join the assault as well. It's, you know, the, the trade, the lawyers are already spread things because they have to watch all of the Imperial Palace.

So the contingent here has been reinforced, but they are fighting a wave of enemies. This is where we see Sanguineas arrive, my beloved. He is flying about and he's just, he's like, chucking deathguard and night, like, uh, night lords and wood he says off the wall he managed to convince the loyalist elements of the Mechanicum who are in the Imperial Palace to join him in this so the again against dawn's wishes and poor Katzahiro who's like banging on the door like let me get him he the Helios gate opens and in walks out with giant tread titans two I think a couple of titans followed sanguineas and they just immediately turned to their left and right and start

are blasting the Nurgle siege engines. Again, the legionaries, they're being drawn out early, but they don't care because it's important to stand with the people of terror. Angron tries to fly at Sanguineus. He just beams straight off of the emperor's psychic ward. That's like, what was surrounding terror has now condensed to the Imperial Palace. So people like Angron and Mortari, like people who are, you know, not fully demons, but characters that have demons inside them are able to now

lay foot upon the throne world. Angron is pissed. Of course, he just screams and Sangonius, like, salutes him saying, you know, one point we will fight, you and I, brother. And this is where Angron just turns around and starts killing all the mortals who basically didn't make it into the Helios gate. And that is the second book. Again, this is, we're now reaching the end stretch,

which is basically the last one which is called First Wall. Again, I will say for people listening, this one is not the cream of the crop, but these first three are, I would say, all decent. They've been all decent so far, and I think a lot of amazing scenes have happened. But again, like smoothly transitioning into this last book, the seizure terror has continued for weeks,

maybe a few months at this, maybe a month at this point. The skies of terror have grown, to near permanent night. The atmosphere is clogged with ash. Mostly, I would say, the ashes from people who are dead, not just munitions as well. Like, people are reigning on everyone else. The rest of terror has been ruined, or may I say worse, they have become the plaything

of the emperor's children. Oh, that is way worse than death. Oh, that's weird worse. Yeah, that's far, that's far worse. There are fewer things you could have said that would have made me less. repulsed. Yeah. Aren't they actually turning people into drugs, shy?

Like, that's, that's not like hyperbolic. That's, they are literally using them as drug fuel, right? Yeah, people are, yeah, and also people are being corrupted as well. So chaos is kind of entering the sphere in some sense. Parts of the outer wall have been breached at this point. Like, again, they couldn't hold the Helios gate forever. But eventually, because again, if you look at the map, the Imperial Palace, It's so large that each section of the city, again, like, we're talking gun nests filled with Rock Crete or, like, again, trench lines have been drawn up.

So each stage of the Imperial Palace has, it's a, it's a, there's minds everywhere as well. Like, Dawn has turned this into a nightmare for anyone who wanted to take it, but it's still, they're losing slowly. Although, I will say, okay, has it good. Oh, I was just going to say what exactly, because Dorn doesn't like the fact that everybody is, like not listening to him and going out and helping the human. Did he just want everyone to just hunker up behind the walls and let them like try to because Dorn doesn't seem like he's in a happy place because it seems like not a lot of people are listening to him about what his plan is.

So what did Dorn want? I'll say this is my opinion, but it's to do with a difference of strategy in terms of what they do for their own legions. Dawn is a man who was not sleeping at this point, I'll say. Like, he is charged with the defense of the throne world, and he has made this meticulous plan. But like all things, the plan, what's the one in like a band of brothers, isn't it?

The plan is the plan until the first thing happens or something. I can't remember that. Yeah. So that's the plan until you get punched in the face, right? Well, that's Mike Tyson. You're referring to no plan survives contact with the enemy. That's it. Yeah, like, you see you ever watch the series, Banda Brothers, the same thing.

I did, yeah. Normandy landings. It's, you know, immediately no one was in the right place. The people are dead and it's not going to plan ever. But this is the same thing. Band of Brothers is very good. I got to say, a big fan of the Pacific. Really liked that show, too.

It's been a whole minute since I've seen it, but I remember watching it probably a bit too young. But I loved it a lot because I used to like. I didn't see either one, actually. I was a teenager when I watched the Pacific. maybe it wasn't as good as I thought it was at the time. But I remember liking it. I didn't know. You know, there's one thing I will say, I watched a lot of war movies growing up.

A lot of war movies. I think that was, it was interesting because as in American, a lot of them were Iraq-based or various areas like that. And there's a lot, not a lot of those sometimes. And, you know, even though it's a bit overdone, sometimes I do miss a good old World War II movie. I'm like, ah, I'm going to go watch, well, I don't watch. same prayer of Ryan anymore because I've seen like 15 times but um you know insert movie you know I'm gonna watch overlord the the the World War II zombies movie that came out a couple years ago that was way better than I had any right to be I've never even heard of that it was pretty good

it was it was a solid it's like a B plus it's it's worth the watch it's something crazy but it's worth the watch that being said I will say on the totally related notes um there was a a good meme when the Empress Children Codex came out and the Empress Children people were very upset, justifiably that there were no cultists in the book, which is very stupid and there should be cultists. Because Death Guard got Poxwockers and blah, blah, blah. And then someone responded with, there obviously are cultists. They're right here. And they put a big red arrow to the big green vials on the back of Lucius's back, which I found to be very funny.

And probably relatively accurate. Speaking of horror and unbearable pain, as we've seen with like, again, I'll refer you to is like, this is like the third map I was looking at, which is this one that's called first wall will refer to a structure called the Lionsgate spaceport. Mostly, again, if you have a look at it on the, I'll describe it as best I can for the audio listeners, but it's right next to the main structure which is called the Lionsgate. The spaceport itself, like a massive towering edifice where it's like highest reaches almost go like ridiculously high into the upper atmosphere. Again, it's a sky dock itself, but it's definitely a humongous structure. And it's incredibly important for the traitor's next step. This is a fun part here. Good Lord.

Yeah. It's a love it. Again, like if we could, if people do get a chance, do check out. the artwork they made for this series because it is I think some of the best in the Horace Harris I will say this made this made me laugh to think about it but essentially as this siege has continued

on there are hordes of the traitor the loss on the damned the legions are on terror now dawn and Perterabo are like matching each other you know the ultimate siegeer versus the ultimate fortifier essentially is happening in real time this is where Perta Rabo he does the impossible

Perter Rabo gives up his command and he gives it up to one of his tridents whose name is Kroger Kroger is a brute he is a he's a beast he's a direct head on I'm just I'm running out of war kind of figure he's not stupid

but he's not politically inclined he's not conniving any sense the plan is that Kroger is so direct of a strategist, because obviously he's an iron warrior, he's obviously a strategist, that his directness will confound Dawn because Dawn, like, Dawn will be like Perre d'Arabo. They were making a joke of it in the book where it's like, is this a trap in a trap within a trap, but it's not actually a trap? Like Perjarobe said, it's almost ridiculous. What if I did do something so direct that he could not think that I was capable of doing something like that?

I'll ask you guys, is this brilliant or dumb? This is the question I want to ask. Honestly, I feel like when you know you're going up against someone like Dorn that has your maybe mentality down to a T where like you are doing plans and plans and plans and you are so hyper focused on what the next move is, I feel like sometimes just doing something absolutely insane like that, I'm going to go brilliant because is, is Dorn really going to expect like, oh yeah, now there's just a battering ram coming at the door.

There's no plan. There's no strategy. It is just brute force. And it frees up Perch Rabo to do, I guess, anything else, right? Like Perts Rabo can go out there now if he wants and just, you know, start taking heads to, I guess. But I kind of think it's brilliant. What do you think, Bricky? Do you think it's a, is it a mark of genius?

Or is this just, I'm just basically throwing something at the wall and hoping it sticks? I mean, I feel like, depending on what the writers want. It's either, it could be both. Because every time they do some kind of crazy thing like that, that tends to be the case. Also, yeah, I'm supposed to say, Kroger's the warpsmith in Storm of Iron, isn't he? I think I remember him. He is in Storm of Iron, yes. I think I remember his fate.

Is it the one with, he has the demon inside his armor? It might be. Yeah, he becomes, yeah, I think Shrederoy becomes a demons. I think, Barbara and Falk is, I think, the one who becomes a demon. And normally they all like merging, uh, in some sense, I think in 40kasa, but I think Falk is the one who becomes a demon prince.

Forrex is another character who's part of the Trident. Again, I'd love to, like, give these guy their flowers, because I particularly love their stuff in the Siege of Terror, but mostly, like, with Kroger, like, Kroger's basically taking command.

And so, this is, all because he is given the task by Perjaro, take the Lionsgate Spaceport. that is that is what we are going to do Dorn I was just saying

Per Trambo we do stand per Chirabo here I do believe this podcast does sway Perchirabo over Dorn heavy and so I am a fan I am a fan of our petulant man child so let's let's call a genius

and move on okay I think I lean more towards Dorn but that's fine I do like a Yeah but me and shy don't So two versus one. That's, yeah, no, you're right. I guess we sway more per trarabbo. Also, I'm pretty sure Kyriath's favorite Legion is the Iron Warriors.

Yeah, but he's not here to defend himself, so I'm going to take his. That's, you know, that's just what we do. You know what? You know, I respect that, D.K. I respect that. Hooray, it's an even split. I love Dawn, because this whole series is just basically dawn glazing. I love it.

But speaking of Dawn, at this point, he will send his commander or his legionary and, I think, leader of his huskos, Fafnir ran alongside 18,000 imperial fists and 800,000 Imperial Army to bolster the port. And again, the port is like the size of the country. So this is maybe not even enough. And what's valuable about the Lionsgate Spaceport is what it has, it has sky bridges. Sky bridges are the things you can see on the map, and they connect to the various other parts of the Imperial Palace. So it's not just that they can land ships at the Lionsgate,

but they could also have basically a central command point to attack other parts of the Imperial Palace. So it is vital for both sides. We will see here Kroger. He goes to recruit the world eaters to join him in this. Recruit, rant. Yeah. He goes up to, well, in this book, I think he goes up to Khan.

And he asked Khan, hey, do you want to? to kill some stuff. And I think Khan can sense as like, Kroger's slightly fall into corn in some sense. So he's like, all right, I'll try my best not to kill you and we'll try and attack together. It doesn't do well. There's like a weird

mutant humans, like eating flesh in piles. It's, again, like, outside of terror has gone bad. At this point, Croger is amassing this grand attack, and this will be in tandem with the Emperor's Children and Death Guard, and they're going to try and to

extract the Imperials at the Wall Sections, Montaigne and exultant. This is where they really show off because the Iron Warriors Kroger starts to list this off very casually in this scene. He says, we're going to have 25,000

iron warriors, Khan and 3,000 World Eaters, 1.5 million traitor army, I'm halfway. Huge numbers of beastmen, cultists, 2,000 bassists, 1,500 Manticor tanks, 13 bombars, 500 Medeususus, 300 siege dreadnoughts, 84 typhon assault gun, etc, and et cetera, it goes on and on and on.

Jesus. It's an enormous attack is a coming. Again, with multi-legion and multi-legin, not just even one legion, but multi-fourth-pronged attack. We'll see here at some point because, like, really the cultists are attacking. I say cultists, I mean, just lost in the dam, they're attacking these outer sky bridges of the Lions Gate. and this is where Fafnirang deploys what is a siege march on a skybridge and they form a phalanx of shields and they start to push out and I was going to ask is it D.K., would you be able to read me the last excerpt I put for the boys? I think it's excerpt number four, I believe. Yeah.

This is the scene, certainly the scene is like they see a massive flood of like traitor Ogrin and like, and mutants coming towards them. and this is how the Imperial Fists fight. All right. Three, two, one, serrate, said Rann. Starting with warriors either side. Every other Imperial Fist in the front line lifted his shield and advanced five strides. Two warriors from the rear ranks followed on the heel of each.

One firing left, the other to the right, sweeping the ground before them with a welter of bolt rounds. No sooner had the first serration planted their shields then the remaining front-line legionaries lifted theirs and advanced ten paces. Each also joined by two support warriors. Ran advanced with them measuring his stride, and then drove his shield down into the filth of mud and gore that soaked the ground. With the full line advance as far as it could,

the husk-gars clamped their bolters and took up their close combat weapons. Push, step, hack! Pieces of corpses were trodden into the muck as they moved forward. Push, step. hack, push, step, hack. God. It is a, it is a, it is a, we see a phalanx line because as, in context, millions are like coming towards them and they just push as a phalanx line as on the side like dreadnoughts and

tanks just fire into like the like sort of the crescent mass that they make. They kill an estimated 300,000 cultists in two hours. What? Some good numbers. This is only one wave. So then this wave starts to retreat because more waves keep coming and keep coming. They're hurling themselves at sections of the wall because Perthrabo is the architect and they're trying to find weak spots. At one point, the world eaters get a bit too eager and they hurl themselves at a section because they're in rhinos and land raiders.

I will just say they plow through their own cultists like and they don't even stop to the point where. Oh, this, that's not abnormal. That's, I was going to say that it's the most world eaters thing I think I've ever heard. Have faith, word bearer. We're all bleeding today. Yeah. Well, the world eaters here, like, some of their rhinos get so gunged up with meat and bone that they actually don't join the fight. So there's like, this is how stupid it is.

Oh, that's me playing Imperial Guard against World Eaters then. Go my 20 Kadyans make the treads break. Oh, man. Can you imagine having to like try and un-gunk those treads and it's just all human visceran gore and gore? And it's just so much that it's clogging up gears. It's blood for the blood go. Dude, they would just eat it. That's true.

That's true. It's world eaters. They just nom, yum, yum, yum. I mean. I've been eating people, I will say. There's a few things about that. There's a little bit of them. It's probably just, what was that?

I think it was Lion's Sotom the forest. They had that one, I think it was a Zincian chaos corrupted guy. and they were fighting and he was going to eat something and then the fallen KSTO was like, hey, hey, knock it off, man, not now. Yeah, it escalates because this attack, because they're just going off on their own at this point.

This is not the Kroger attack they're meant to join. Angron, who's just been on his, like, he's been flying around the Imperial Palace just trying to find fight non-stop. They eventually get in combat with like, what is it called a capital imperialist tank, which if anyone, for one in the episode,

I think goes out, if anyone can find that one, it's one those huge, enormous, like box tanks, it's one of those, I don't even know how to describe it because it's way bigger

than a normal tank. And also a Leviathan one as well. Bangor just stopped smashing through it. But unfortunately, he can't go any further because again, the emperor's wards are still up. And the guns at the walls

just basically pepper him. I think at one point, almost makes Khan snap out of his corruption a bit because he's like, oh my God, he looks pathetic because he's running away. Yeah, not good. And Pertharabu will note at this point, they need to do something about the emperor's warts. So not, you know, there's a problem they have to deal with. Getting into like the final stretch here, like, because we're building up to the lion's gate attack, the Iron Warriors, they launch their assault. They power over this, the catabatic plane in their enormous armada of people with a, with a, very, one of my favorite scenes in the book where, uh, for, I believe it's this forrex who, this happens to him, but again,

like he would have to have his own episode of that character because he's really enjoyable, but they have a small contingent of iron warriors and they are like, they essentially hide themselves in another loss in the damn advanced. They, they put themselves in with this other group and they are covered in like, blood and meat to hide them the fact that they're legionaries from like war guns. and to the point where they have to climb over the mountains of corpses and their blood slit covered but they do find their way to the actual wall itself and they have like traitor ogrid smash like in a gates and like there are imperial units inside the

lion's gate itself who do fight them but an iron warriors unit like a small contingent do infiltrate deep below where they will journey through and they'll see like massive structures where they house like titans. Like that's how big and like the inner hollow part of the like the spaceport itself. Again, speeding through it because there's not enough time for it, which is as a side plot throughout the book where a nergul demon serpent thing made with like parts of typhus's corruption and ones from Zadio Leak, the word bearer, it like basically an aurorborist like corrupted serpent will tunnel into the ground. and it starts to spread sickness amongst the imperial palace and dread. And that's where like another subplot is where Euphrates Keeler, who you remember from Horace Rising and the early books,

she's part of a plot about the rising worship of the emperor. Okay, a quick aside here, because it's like one of the last few questions I will ask, because I want to save it a big one, which is, do you guys think the emperor is a god? Because I've asked D.K. this on an episode of Lodgast, and I was wondering, what do you think? What do you think particularly, Bricky? Is the emperor God?

Oh, I think we've had this conversation before, which is, it's difficult because the definition of God is so varied in 40K. God often is just simply referred to as extremely powerful entity of the warp in some way, shape, or form, but also the Catan are not warp entities, and they're the star gods as well. But those, so, like, God just kind of feels like what it is is extremely powerful entity of sorts, which means that the definition of God for the emperor, I would say he absolutely is a God. Maybe he wasn't a God pre, or maybe he wasn't a God heresy and before, so to speak. But I would argue that with the sheer volume of worship he has received, he has a swelled, because worship is what gives gods their power in the warp.

He's probably a God now. Yeah, but like the phrase God is so nebulous in 40K, normally just means very, very powerful entity. uh and in this case that yeah he absolutely is a god it's like not even a question you agree dk hey uh yeah when bricky puts it like that it's kind of hard not to agree um like he like he's just he's really strong like he's i don't know he's yeah there is a weird for all intents and purposes like um would you say that like right now he's a good because I feel like I don't know if he's a god right at this moment

like while he's still alive in like you know armor and everything before as in 30K yeah as in 30k I think 40K I think you kind of have to prop him up as like almost a pseudo-kios god of faith I know that's kind of a take um yeah I would say in the Warhammer context of it

in the specifics of if people are able to draw on something as they're tapping into the god's power. I would argue, I think the emperor is a god, even though, again, it's not an easy question to answer, which is why I'm glad I asked it, because it's, it's kind of a tough one, yeah. It's tough, yeah, it's genuinely tough because it's like, like, yeah, the emperor may have been, you know, have difficulties and stuff like that back in the heresy era, but we're no longer in the heresy era, we're in the modern era, in the 40K era, and the entire. higher the entirety of humanity, well, minus the chaos ones have turned to worshiping him.

And he does have demons, you know, like Celestein is literally a demon of the emperor, which would assume that that is a god in that sense. So it's a little, I don't know, it's a, if you're referring to the idea that like, you can draw power from them and that makes them a god, then yeah, 100% he is. Oh, sir, go ahead. that also creates a situation though where like I don't know can you draw power from the Catan I don't really remember where we're at with that maybe back when before they were shattered maybe when they were before then then when they were shattered maybe but like eh but then like

are they referred to star gods as like a colloquialism you know like because they're so powerful that's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a depends on how you define it type situation but I'd say I'd say yes I'd say yes people if they want to can put in the comments of what I They think, I think. Because I say it's a big question and we want you guys to help his answer that. I don't know. There's a really good video. There's a right answer.

I make a good video, honestly. Shai said her answer is no. It's really easy. He got bodied by a bald guy. You're all cringe. Yeah, but that's horse heresy era. That's different. Yeah, we're talking 40K.

30K, I don't think he's a god. 40K, I, it's kind of hard to. Okay. But we have, well, we have an issue here because I remember talking, I remember sitting in a shitty London Hotel London Hotel London. with terrible coffee with Hal and Andy. And we were talking about this because I remember when we were, this is back when we were starting to read the Horace Rising series. And it was really weird that Euphrates Keeler was having weird blessings and stuff in the heresy era.

But then you said something, Hal, which was gods of the warp are not constrained by time. And so if the emperor becomes a god in 40K, then who's to say that God power did not. not go back to 30K because the warp is not constrained by time because reality, however, simultaneously, Games Workshop hates doing that shit because they hate doing timey-wimy crap like that. They never do it, really, except for like once or twice. But that's a good point to be made. And so, I don't know, man.

Ah, that's, that's, that's, oh, that's, I feel like, that, that feels like it's almost a little convoluted storytelling for Emperor. I think he's wrong. For Warhammer? Well, maybe you're right. But that seems like even, I'm just like, okay, brother, I think I, I don't have enough fucking breadcruns to get home. Like, that's a little much for like, oh, yeah, no, he becomes a god in 40K so that he can

go back in 30K and do the thing with this lady so that she can do the thing. And it's, it's, I don't know, that might be a little much for me, but, you know, to each their own, right? Well, yeah, thank God I'll be asked the easy questions here. But, yeah, yeah. Beginning with the home stretch here for the listeners, the traitors begin, like Kroger begins their enormous assault. This time the World Eaters are with them. And they in tandem launch and attack not just from the ground, but from the sky, which I love this part.

The World Eaters use, like, most of their gunships. And then they put Marines inside torpedoes, like inside, like ammunition. and then they just fire them. You can't shoot a hole in the surface of Mars, looking a strategy. I believe it's the boarding torpedoes. They use, like, usually in space conflict, but they abuse them on, like, Earth, essentially. So that's pretty crazy, because obviously, he's mostly used in space. They land near, like, some of the top spires.

Meanwhile, good old Abertone doesn't want to be left out. So him and, like, a contingent of the Sons of Horace, they join the assault on another layer. and obviously the ones happening on the ground level as well. So the assault is happening while, obviously, artillery and everything is firing to distract the war guns. And the poor Imperial Fis will have to do their best here. Fafnirinir Rand begins his counterattack. They have some successes in places, but obviously there's a contingent who are wreaking havoc in the lower levels of, you know, what the hell is that? Obviously, it's the infiltrators from before.

But they are ultimately, like some assaults, have been pushed back from the inner core, but they are going to be losing. So they are saved, actually, because Dawn sends reinforcements, and he sends Sigismund and his boys. And at this point, they're holding the line. The traitor forces, unfortunately, are eliminating layers and layers of, like, mortal people. They had said, I might be correct on this, but, like, the people who live in the Lionsgate, like entire generations of families have lived in the Lionsgate spaceports and worked there. So like entire families get wiped out and millions of people are dying at this point.

Again, my favorite catchphrases episode, I think. Eventually it's all like converging towards the center. And we see like Fafnir Ran, he will duel Krogar. He doesn't win, but he gets saved by Sigismund, who then gets attacked by Khan, who at this point, Khan is outmatching him utterly. Sigsman cannot match his cornate fury until some big shadow appears and dawn. Dawn is finally in the siege of terror like in person and he's gone. He beams Kahn off the wall, like off the edge.

He's like, I'm sorry. He's like, you know, it goes flying off. Yeah, not good. Dawn at this point engages the sons of Horace and word bearer forces, particularly the psychos Zarudu Laiak, who we mentioned a bit earlier. I will say this guy was acting as like an advisor to Horace because L'OGA is not here during the siege of terror. Don't want to spoil that though.

Leaka is fully corrupted by chaos there as a psycher and he's sending bolts of dark energy and other things at dawn. Dawn is taking it like a boss. But eventually like Lech is not going to win. And he uses his body as a sacrifice and he opens a walk portal from his like his body like splits and like the first demon. manifest on terror. This is bad.

And this is when Dawn realizes that he was outplayed in some sense. Because from the sky, like burning in orbit, the ships of the Iron Warriors and Pertarabo begin to descend, and they start to dock at the port because they are about to bring the Titans into battle. The loyalists are pushed out of the port. They are forced away, and they retreat back to the bastions,

that just stand just before the lion's gate proper itself. The traitors can now land their legions, their forces, like everything in much larger numbers. The Cedar Terror, we should say, the Cedia Terror is taking longer than either side calculated. So there is some hope for Dawn. And despite Dawn and Perthra-Rab, I'm not joking, looking eye to eye and basically selling like, you, fuck you to the other one, you know, the loyalist are doing better than expected due to the sacrifice and the changing nature of the war. But obviously, going forward, demons are in place. So the armies of the Imperium are about to be boled.

The armies of the traitors, sorry, are about to be bolstered by the war, because the wards of the emperor are slightly failing. And I'll end it on the fact that you're wondering where Horace has been the entire time. He's still what he's doing before. We see scenes where Horace is talking to the emperor. and like he's being attacked by assisted by the gods of the warp and Horace is taunting him and saying again, I will have your corpse father, you know,

or either you, you know, one day you might sit besides me and as a lenient god that I am, but I am in charge, I am the master of mankind and I will sit on your throne. Lienious. Damn. That is the,

I was asked you guys, because that is the end of the first three books of the seed of terror. Much has been missed out in that, but that's the best I can deal with the overall, like, theater of war. What are your final thoughts on the opening gambit of this seed of terror? I just like the white scars, dude, like flying headfirst into a pile of plague marines and then dying immediately.

I can't even do that injustice as well. It's amazing in the book. No, I'm sure it's, like, really impressive and, like, actually super cool. But when you boil it down to the short version, which is a white scar like swerves, does the Akira slide, flies into a pile of flag marines and dies immediately. But it helps the, you know, the con get the poison blade out short. Like I know, I know it's, it was very important. But when you break it down, it just sounds really funny. He did save his life though. And that's what any Astati's would do. The man really did. Like,

just he'd leapt off of his own bike and just bodies into like that whole pile that is like swarming there is Khan. So my my poor guy, I don't think they even say his name. I think he just he has one scene and he immediately gets cut in like you just cut down poor dude. But again, I think, D.K. What's your initial impression of the, uh, the suitor terror? I so like I, I, I, this is all stuff that I feel like, you know, we've maybe talked about a little bit, but I think, One of the craziest things is like, after hearing all this, you would just assume, oh, yeah, this is just a chaos dub. This is just chaos winning. And really, like, the loyalists are doing shockingly better than expected. Like, for them, it's probably going maybe a little better than planned, and they're actually holding out, and it's actually taking chaos a lot longer to do what they wanted to do. And, you know, I know at some point, chaos kind of looks over their shoulder and like, ah, this is this is. actually taking a little too long. There's,

there's something blue on the horizon that's, um, we, we got to, we gotta, we gotta speed this up a little bit. We gotta get this going. Um, when it really, God, it's, it seems like chaos is just like, fucking steam rolling.

Yeah, I do like the fact that, despite that where it's like, come on, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, hurry out. The emberish children are out there just, drugging it up. Just drugging it up. Just like going off, doing awful things. The world eaters are, are getting their tanks stuck underneath.

their own dead and it's just like it really does suck having i mean chaos really did you shouldn't have done those powers man i mean i guess it's soup them up but problems that like uh horace or someone had they're like god fucking empress children they're just they're just off drugging it up why aren't they like attacking the gates with us get old eaters aren't listening emperous children are out drugging themselves on the civilian population Angron is just like going crazy. Yeah. Pritcharabos just having a fit.

Like, God, just come on. I really like, I don't know, I'm assuming it's before this, Hal, but there's that conversation that, um, definitely before this. There's a conversation with the con and mortarian when the con just like, Mortarian, you're coming to me because you've realized the allies you've chosen are crazy. Like, oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, yeah, Angron, your ally. Oh, yeah, you're allied with Kurz.

Congratulations, idiot. That's good stuff. Yeah. Chaos cohesion is a, will be a escalating problem that you'll see Perta Rabo, you know, immediately smash up every room and get frustrated with. But I will say as much as like, you know, what is the best part I would say about the seizure terror is the overall own. Again, I wouldn't recommend that someone do these books back to back because it is depressing at times, but it is that little, like, it's that essence of Warhammer, which is,

there's a little sliver of hope in that massive shroud of darkness and pain. But I will end my my absolute unregurgitating of, you know, useless skill of Warhammer law, which is, I never knew courage felt like fear, because the humans are not done. It's, I'm not going to lie, it does get worse for the loyalists in the continuing saga. of each of the books. This is their opening gambit and they've done better than expected, but things happen when the warp is involved and it

will get worse and we will see the true meaning of what is more than just a siege in the material universe. I'm so excited. Yeah, once demons get involved, it's not great to be a mortal human. I mean, I guess it's not great to be

anyone that's not a demon, but like yeah. I hope people who are listening do give this series a go and I hope people who are listening have, I hope you guys have enjoyed at least. I know I probably the thing is I made notes and I definitely went a bit more on certain

sections because I remembered things like scenes. Again, this series is packed full of scenes that are just absolutely glorious. You know, literally a painting in words. So I hope I, again, for people out there, I hope I did it justice. I tried my best. There's a lot to work out because no one puts together all of

like the the wall names. I literally want to smash my head against a wall itself. The wall names on the seated terror is ridiculous. But, you know, working out where everything is happening. But again, I may, I,

Warhammer law is fantastic and I hope people listening enjoyed it. Hell, yeah, I think you did a great job. Well, you got, we better hope he did, because we're here for two more episodes with him. Let's go. This one was more set up heavy.

The other ones are luckily, I don't know like it gets easier as I go forward because it's less establishing what terror looks like. Yeah, what's happening. The next two are, well, next two episodes will be shorter in terms of the actual battle because it just devolves. So, but this was the opening gambit and everyone, please stick around for more siege of terror. Yeah. Hey, hey, that's my outro. Hey, back off, Bub. And we'll see you next week for more siege of terror.

I'm so I'm so used to being like you know when you do so many podcasts that you're so used to being the one who do stuff about it you're like oh man it's not like I'm weirdly like in a podcast mode I don't know how to stop myself all right we'll have to go to old reliable everybody see you next week