Adeptus Ridiculous - Steel Confessors: How One Fan Solved a 20-Year Warhammer Mystery

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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I get it. I get it. Tell me, D.K., would you have ever guessed something called The Steel Confessors? Nope. Nope. Never even heard of them. Exactly. And most people, most likely in our viewers, all of our viewers here, would not have heard of them. No. Because the Steel Confessors is actually an interesting topic that we have not really delved into, which is lost Warhammer media. Oh. From the olden days, a very old scenario that has happened in a sense because while we have talked about media that really should have been lost for the last couple, for the last month, there is actually an old mystery around the lore of a space marine chapter that Games Workshop went all in on marketing and then just completely vanished. And so because of that, that was something called the steel confessors.

That was completely lost. No one knew where the heck it was or what the heck was going on. And so because of that, we recently apparently had found the lost media of the steel confessors, which makes it quite interesting, all things considered. Oh, like, like somebody found a book of this lost media that that GW was like, oh, we're going all in. This is going to be the next big thing. It wasn't. They pulled the plug. Nobody's found a copy for like, what, 60 years or something.

Like, what happened? Like, genuinely, it was just discovered, like, a couple of weeks ago and was completely lost back in 2005, also known as two decades ago. Also known as when the Xbox 360 came out. Don't, don't, don't reference it with those easily markable times in my life that I was very alive for. Very alive for. Yeah, but it's funny. Yeah. You were alive for too.

Uh, I, you know, yeah, but I was like 10. Doesn't matter. Yeah. I don't know. But yes. Uh, so the steel can. confessors had actually recently come back. Someone found it.

And because of that, this is the episode. So we're talking about lost media. It's a humorous thing because Warhammer lore is a such a complicated beast. We have the most and the easiest compiled lore now, thanks to our heavy emphasis in the digital age currently. But combined with the amount of recons, various places to get lore, from and in general just strange way GW likes to deliver their lore

it's one of the reasons why figuring out exactly what is the case can either be one contradicting or two really god damn hard it's always it's always like oh yeah this chapter did this one cool thing and I'm like where the hell did you find that

and they said the white dwarf article from 2003 oh and I'm like great sick Awesome. Those ones that like are the ancient tomes that you have to, you know, you blow on them and all the dust goes everywhere. And it's like, ah, yes, white dwarf. Yes, literally long lost media.

So this old space marine chapter, the steel confessors was actually a mystery that would die way back whim, but would stay in some people's minds for a while because they had a lot of canon lore back in white dwarf. And so when it was lost, you know, ironically, the random reference of the steel confessors was actually in the Nightlord's trilogy. And the second being the alleged Mechanicum Origins, which by modern standards is extremely heretical and very much a product of the time being in 05. It remained alive in corners of the Warhammer fan and Wiki pages as like a curiosity. but it wasn't until like literally 20 years later to be found it. So we're going to talk a little bit about the still confessors, but we're also going to talk a little bit about like real IRL history on how the hell we got this stuff back.

Oh, it's just so weird that it's just like, oh yeah, it was it was printed in an episode or an addition of white dwarf. That one just, I guess, got lost. There was no way to find it again. And then just that's wild. It's not exactly that. It's a little different. We'll get to it.

So let's talk about Games Day. So in the really early days, Games Workshop was finding their footing and throwing a bunch of ideas on the wall because that's just what they did back then. They, uh, you do a lot of warmer research. I guess got to say, games workshop, like, they really, they really, really like money. But let me tell you, D.K., GW really likes money. And you might say,

and you might say no shit, right? Yeah, that's, I was going to say, I'm just, you know, looking at ultramarine pack 9,744 that just came out. And no way,

they love money. Crazy. They really like money. And the amount of things they did to get more money back in the day, especially is hysterical. But back when games workshop was a bit more, not as infancy, but like not what it is today,

they were just doing all kinds of stuff. And some games came and went, like actual games, and some never made the drawing board, and some had minis and were never made again. At the time, Games Workshop were wearing a lot of hats for a period of time. And really nobody knew what could come from it, especially in the early 2000s. What's it called?

days brickie Las Vegas open. LVO would be a, would be the biggest tournament. And kind of, they try to make it into kind of a convention now, but yeah, that'd be LVO. But. Because then you kind of treat it like

Evo for fighting games where it's like it is a convention meeting place tournament for every one of the, the hobby to really congregate at, right? Yeah. I, yeah, pretty much. It's, I know last time wasn't as crazy, but

um, the photos from the game, game day you may actually see there. There's the Golden Demon entrance there, the LVO, they're just trying out all kinds of stuff, right? Sure. And so back when in the 2000s, they had their early investment in the Lord of the Rings movies,

and GW saw a massive boom in customers that wanted to play war games based around movies, but that was running out of steam in the mid-2000s as the last movie had come out by 2003, and GDW was hoping to get their fans into their long-standing stuff. So,

The new edition of 40K came out in 2004, which is a fourth edition. And with the PC release of Dawn of War, got people really interested in what 40K had to offer. And so they made a stage to show off the really good stuff being Games Day. So in the 70s back when Games Workshop started their Games Day gaming convention thanks to a bigger convention which was being canceled. And they decided to fill the gap with a one-day festival. to celebrate tabletop games, and it kind of stuck. So the first ever Games Day was very popular, thanks to the coverage it got, and it quickly, quickly became an annual event.

And as Games Day was a chance for GW show off all of their new stuff and provide special presentations to fans, but they could also have it so there was a general dealer's area and plenty of tables people could play. So in a sense, LVO currently is the largest Warhammer tournament. I mean, a thousand people or something sign up, or at least they did last year. And they go and they're like, hey, I'm here to play a game and like, don't get the wrong, have fun, roll dice. Like, I would say 90% of the players there are there just to throw dice.

And then, you know, a good 10% or so are like, yeah, I'm really going to, I'm like, I'm going to try. I'm going to try to do my best. And so also Golden Demon Ceremony, of course, that being a painting competition. and just the various things like that. So Games Day doesn't still exist, right? Has it sort of just evolved into something else? Because I know there's like an adepticon, but I don't know about any of the other like big hobby meetups.

It's morphed a bit. And we'll kind of roll with that in a bit. Okay. So, of course, from there, Games Day became really, so you know, it's Games Day, like the day of Game. not like games possessive. Ah, okay, gotcha.

G-A-M-E-S-Day, Games Day. Yeah. Now, it became really popular. Yeah, there you go. Games Day, Golden Demon, 2008. Golden Demon's a big deal in painting, too. Yeah, and God, the stuff to them be. Huge.

Yeah. So, Games Day became very popular among people in the hobby and as a way to celebrate the creativity of their fans. And so Games Workshop would introduce the Golden Demon Painting Competition, of course, in 1987, so they can be part of this event. Now, as the 2000s began to roll around, Games Day became international and would have events in the U.S., Australia, Germany, and Canada. And all of which were really well attended, but nothing really quite beat the UK because it's the UK and that's where it started. Yeah, I was going to say, that's the motherland for, for Hammer. So that makes sense.

Yeah. And so in 2004, after the launch of that new edition of 40K and the huge popularity boom, GW needed to think big for 2005. And so instead of the small town hall they used prior, they needed to move it to an actual convention center, which was the National Exhibition Center in Birmingham, which looked like it could fit potentially record-breaking crowds. But with a bit of a big change,

they really needed to entice folks to show up and give them a really special event, naturally, for this big step in Games Workshop's history. Now, in Games Day 2005, the announcement would highlight the move as well as the big events of the day, happening in three whole halls. Ooh. Hey, okay. Three whole halls. Damn, three whole hogs.

Three whole halls. there would be the Goldman, no, the Golden Demon participation, of course, as well as conversion, imagine that, and art competition. Now, gaming tables as well, you know, just all the standard fare. But there was also going to be a massive 40K event as the focal point, being the Battle of Calavala, which is named after the National Epic Poem of Finland, also Finland. Finland mentioned let's go. I love Sam Lake that hack. I thought I thought I thought Chai was going to post up that picture of the anime girl that's just covered in stuff from Finland.

That's pretty good too, but I also just really like Alan Wake. Yeah, but I really like anime. Alan Wake might as well be an anime. Yeah, you're right. You're so right. You're true. True. Now.

The original, and I mean, and this one is verbatim advertised in their original email blast. D.K., would you like to give this a read? Oh, sure. This mammoth game sees the entire chapter of the Steel Confessors Space Marines pit itself in desperate battle against the tyrannids of High Fleet Leviathan. The world of Calabala is home to the gene seed of the Steel Confessors, as well as a psychic choir designed to boost the signal of the Astronomicon, so that mankind can navigate through the psychic miasma of the high fleets.

On the planet is a vast manufactorium, one the steel confessors are honor-plugged to defend. With all this under threat, will the space marines hold, or will we see the death of a chapter? A game like no other, the largest game at Games Day, complete with Indexistardi's background, a full-sized space marine in chapter colors, and a painting workshop.

This is a must-see part of this year's Games Day. And then you play the NFL theme song right after that. Yes. I read it on some football. So that was the main thing, verbatim for the Games Day. And Games Workshop, as we know back when, It was a lot more relaxed for how they ran their stuff. They let fans decide canon outcomes of battles,

much like we talked about with the original Fall Acadia and the, uh, with Avedon and stuff way back when. It was such a cool. That was really cool that like fans actually at big events get to decide like canon outcomes. Man, you get so invested in the game that way when you have a genuine say in like the lore, f la. It's one of those things.

that like I think worked really well for the the back in the day era. Yeah. Especially with that kind of stuff. But like I, I don't know. Maybe I can totally see weirdos getting way too invested in that and then like flubbing dice rolls and stuff in order to try to get their outcome, which I think maybe is a bit too dumber of me. I think, I think maybe it's kind of like, oh, well, I can't like, I can't ever let my child leave the house because they might get mugged. And it's like, you got to have a little, like, you got to just kind of accept that stuff sometimes.

I would like to see this again. I don't know if they are still doing it, but I don't think they are, but I would like to see this again. I would like to see them try it in 20, 26 and beyond. Like, give it a test run. See how it goes. Is it just a lot of people flubbing dice rolls? Are there a lot of discrepancies?

It's worth a shot. Like, it's a cool concept. It is. And I think, I think having, you know, we've, we've often talked about, how even though I do like the gameplay systems of Warhammer right now, it is far too number crunchy and not fluffy enough. And so I would like to, things like this might kind of like push us back in that way.

Also, I, tangent. I have to do a tangent. I got, let it roll, so it ripped. So AI is going to bust in about three years, I'd say, because the cost of running it is absolutely insane. And almost all tech spending in the United States is going towards,

or sorry, almost all of the GDP of America is going towards tech spending. And the cost of AI is so ludicrous and insane. I think also there is a fundamental misunderstanding about people. Human interaction is needed at all states. Yeah. At all states. People need people and social aspects more than anything. And I think COVID really taught us that how badly we need people.

people. Yeah. Um, and so because of that, I'm very much of the opinion that we are going to run into a scenario where, uh, the, the sheer volume of like, uh, what's the world looking for? The thing where you optimizing every aspect of your life is going to start to fail. And you're going to go straight into the other option, which is, uh, substantially larger amounts of just being around people and fun. and I think shifting towards that

might be a good idea for games workshop to more emphasize a relaxed feeling. Right. A relaxed social gathering feeling, yeah. Yeah. They are trying to make LVO a bit more of like a convention thing where you go and you hang and you paint and stuff instead of just the tournament,

which I think is the right call. The problem is that it's hard to do both. It's very hard to play in an event while simultaneously do other stuff because it takes all your day. So, you know, there's some... Like, I unfortunately had to cancel my trip to the Grand Narrative in Atlanta this month,

which I was originally going to go to. But, like, that stuff seemed... That stuff is really cool, and I think there should be more of it. Agreed. Yeah, they really should make Elvio, like, a big gathering thing. It's like, oh, yeah, the main selling point is, like, the tournament, but also, look at all this other stuff.

stuff. We've got booths. We've got announcements. We've got, they could very easily do like many announcements there, mini reveals and artist Allie and, you know, all that stuff. Yeah, they could super easily do that. Agreed. I think they have a decent bit of it, but you know, artist Alley, I think it's something they really should do. I know Games Workshop will, will kill your children if you ever dare draw a space marine and sell it. But I think allowing that as an option for sale at their events would actually be very cool. And then I think they should absolutely have an artist dally in that method. Plus, people can sell custom dice and stuff.

Yeah, or custom desk mats, objective markers. I wonder if they have that. I know they have like vendors. but I don't know if they have like an artist alley I haven't been to LVO in like two years so I would need to double check yeah like even like say like TwitchCon it's like a lot of people like oh I don't know if I want to go to TwitchCon

it's like well there is a cool artist Alley there Animat Artist Alley is the best part of TwitchCon There you go right It's the best part TwitchCon without a doubt Anyway sorry tangent but I do think it's important And should I mention Luton has a good video about 40K painting and mental health which I think is

pretty great. Oh, yeah, yeah, he does. So, anyway, so going from that, the success of the 2003 Global Eye of Terror campaign, the one we talked about, GAB wanted to bring that kind of scale to their one-day event. And people would then be able to learn about this new Space Marine chapter and decide their fate all in one day. They'd be taught how to paint them. According to people that worked for GW at the time, they had workshops painting-wise

throughout, you know, all sorts of stuff, but also a dedicated workshop just to paint the steel confessors. And to top it all off, a free index Astardis with lore and rules on how to field them, which was really cool stuff. And from the few photos we have of the Games Day event that year, it was as grand as they said it was. They had a fully fledged life-size steel confessors tactical marine on display, as well as a life-size bust of a steel confessor's Terminator and a Bolter. and a bolter. There you go. There's some photos. Wow.

Look at that dude. I love that like just by the quality of that photo, it's like, yeah, that was, that's from the ancient times. Yeah. That person right there has like three kids now. And a crippling mortgage. Yeah. And so.

Cool, though. It's super cool. And so to compliment all of this, the battle of Calavala was set. up for people to participate in. And a fun side note, the Games Day event also featured the reveal of the book cover for the first book in a series that Dan Abnett was currently working on known as Horace Rising. Oh, wow. All right.

So this was quite the situation. Yeah, what an event, eh? Now, post-event, in an issue of White Dwarf that was released afterwards, We got a few fast facts about the event. There were over 400 tables there for games, which I'm not going to lie, is actually substantial. LVO, like, well, each game is two players. So that means they had 800 players minimum for these games. Or maybe they overbought.

But like LVO normally has like a thousand people attendance, which is about 500 tables. Like for 2005, that's a, I mean, that's a ton of people. That's big. Yeah. That's actually a shocking amount of people. people. How long does a tournament like that take to Duke? Because that's so many people playing at like, holy shit. It's a lot. And I mean, tournaments are three games a day, which are about three hours a day. But the timing of games have changed since then. And I'm pretty sure this wasn't a tournament, rather just a bunch of games. So things are different. But it is a lot of the day. I mean, when I played in the seventh edition, the games were like five to six goddamn hours because it was all kinds of crap. he had to deal with.

But it had 100 display cabinets, 4,000 entries for the conversion competition, because they liked conversion back them. And then 1,500 entries for the Golden Demon and about 9,000 attendees. Which is really

impressive. I got to be honest. That's a huge show out. Granted, this is in Birmingham, which is next door to Nottingham, which is the where GW is. And that's where I went to visit Warhammer World, et cetera. So, yeah, things were crazy.

At the very end of the wrap-up, there was this one little reference to the Battle of Calavala, which was written by intrepid reporter Owen Rees, who is now, fun fact, head of the current group of licensing at Games Workshop. You can go ahead and read. Ayo. An entire chapter of Space Springs, the steel confessors waged war on the massive tyrannid invasion. invasion of high fleet leviathan chapter master protonis fought with the terminator first company across the 19 six by four boards back in the day they were six by four nowadays there's 60 by 44 inches which is a little different oh my god look at those old land speeders god they're so

goofy looking I'm just I'm always baffled by like just like damn you can just tell by the quality of picture. Like this was before like, you know, everybody had a camera phone or everybody had, you know, a 4K thing just sitting in their pocket and just, oh man, that is like, that's like a damn Polaroid. That's like a Kodak moment right there, bro. I love this, these images because on one hand, um, I have the exact same gene stealers still. And I have the exact same land raiders and dreadnought still because that's what they were back when. But then, um, you know, all the other stuff have, of course, been adjusted. Sure, sure.

So, man. A, uh, a quote, look forward to next year's game day, unquote, followed this and would pretty much cut it off right there. No word on who won. No reprinting of the index of stories was given out. Nothing. Just a big, yeah, that happened. Eventually, the Games Day event would dissolve and turn into the Warhammer Fest of the modern

Day. But the Golden Demon Tournament still goes on to this day. So yeah, Games Day event would dissolve. You would have Warhammer Fest. Golden Demon would become its own thing. So in reality, they just kind of like branched out into various events, not called Games Day anymore. So Games Day ended as sort of a launching point for a bunch of other stuff. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, they turned into new things. I think they should bring back Games Day. but that's my own personal opinion. So around the next, or sorry, around the time of the release

of the retrospective white Dorff, Dorff, Braddorf, Dorff, Braddorf, of the white dwarf issue, the first fairly vague lexiconum entry would be posted on the Steel Confessors and it claimed to have an accurate summary of the battle. The Steel Confessors took a classic Peeric Imperial W were like, everyone died,

but they win the usual. But because it couldn't be verified, it wasn't viewed as a canon ending and thus got the dreadful need citation mark. This mark would haunt the steel confessors for ages, especially after a website appeared hosted on Angelfire, which is a dot-com era relic of free website hosting. Oh, man, that's another easily identifiable marker

that I was very ill-life for. I hate this episode, man. You want to download the Dawn of War soundtrack? on lime wire while you're at it. Yeah, I was, I was afraid you're going to be like, oh, yeah, it was a GeoCity site. And I was like, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, so the website, uh, Steel Confessors. Dot Angelfire.com is still up and it was met with scrutiny immediately. And people thought it felt more like fan fiction than reality. And the lack of photos and source material made it a generally dubious citation. Uh, one interesting thing. was the idea that this chapter was potentially an Iron Hand successor chapter,

based on the chapter master you can see here that looks about right. Yeah, that tracks. Which is why they had an alleged weird connection with tech. Also, a quick aside, Iron Hands fans had a really shit month. A recently rediscovered excerpt from the 2023 first founding background book has made the rounds last month as well, which specifically states that the selection pool for Medusa used for space room recruitment were the result of extensive inbreeding.

Oh, no. Oh, that sucks for you. Yeah. So like with most Warhammer lore, sometimes you just have to determine whether or not you decide to, whether or not you decide to take that as a fact or not. is sometimes it's up to you. So yeah, yeah, it looks like the cleatis, the slack-jawed iron hands.

Iron hand fans are like, lose it again, lose it again. Yeah, you know, good old, shit. What a, what a great reference for Battle Brother, eh? Ooh. Battle Brother slash, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see. Yeah, no. So, time was really not in favor of the Lord.

for the Steel Confessors because though it was a full index of starities, it was reportedly more or less a printed out booklet. The collector's market wasn't in the fullest of swings at the time. So keeping a random stable together booklet from 2005 became a lot less, you know, likely as time goes on. But curiosity stuck around and it continues to do so thanks in part to a very random reference to the Steel Confessors in Soul Hunter. In the middle of the novel, Talos sees actual complete Nightlord armor for the first time in quite some time,

and he takes a moment to reflect on the patchwork armor he currently wears. I'm sorry, I don't know if you like having to do a version of Aaron Dembsky Bowden and, Andrew Wincott right now, but best of luck, my friend. Talos felt a smile creeping across his lips at the sight.

It was his armor laid bare. The cannibalism and repair left unpainted and visible to the naked eye. His chestplate was still the deep blue of the ultramarines. The armor of his leg was the royal yellow of the imperial fist, and the thigh guard attached was a gunmetal gray of the crippled steel confessor's chapter. A harlequin's display of colors and allegiances made up the figure's warplate, and Talos lost himself in the memories of where and when each piece was taken. most he'd not even thought about for years, decades even.

Steel confessors mentioned, let's go. Yeah, thigh guard of a steel confessors on his, you know, right down there, makes sense considering that, you know, the night lords have crappy armor. And so they, at least in this book. And so I just looked it up while you were reading that. Soul Hunter came out in 2010. So about five years after, you can assume that ADB was writing it in around probably 2008, And so from there, you can infer that perhaps he either attended said Games Day or he was just, you know, took that from that little thing, a little Easter egg.

Who knows? I think it's safe to say Dan Abnett probably would have been at that Games Day. It sounded like it was marketed as a huge deal and, you know. Aaron Dembsky Bowden for this one. Dan Abnett was the whole thing. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. which was still hilarious that

Games Day Check out the new cover for the brand new novel Horace Rising Dan Amn that's writing this Literally the most like influential novel of all of Warhammer The first of the Horace heresy Wild to think that

Oh man I've said it before And I'll say it before and I'll say it again I fully am of the belief that the sheer strength of that novel deals a lot with Warhammer's popularity over the last 20 years. Because when people are like, I want to learn about Warhammer,

first one of the Horace heresy, Horace rising, and it's that good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I tell people to start there, but I imagine a lot of people are just like, oh, well, that's the iconic book. Like those that, you know, you got to read the Horace Harris

or you got to start at book number one, right? So, yeah. Yeah. I also think it's the one where if you're not asking people, like if you just don't know anyone, you're like, I'm going to get into Warhammer and you don't look up anything, the first place you will go is probably the first Horace book. Oh, yeah, yeah, makes sense. So because of stuff like that, the quote you read

earlier, folks would see the name, look it up, find wiki pages covered in notes about missing citations, and then go elsewhere to find answers to the point where a post about the steel confessor was almost a monthly occasion on places like the 40K Lord subreddit. People try to do their own hunts and to no avail. People emailed GW all the time about this, and the response was a very cookie cutter. Yes, this event happened. No, we don't have any info for something that happened 20 years ago. Sorry.

And this would come up continually until very recently, as in October of 2025. Oh, man. We are just like a week out of October. 25. This recent month of this year, 20 years. After the original game day, a guy by the name of Guy H, he confirmed that he was not Guy Haley in disguise, would join the Warhammer lexiconom discord as he attended the Games Day event in 05 at the age of 12. He posted a bunch of pictures on Reddit of this time at the event that was found at his parents' home. and by some miracle he had the white whale of the 40K lore community,

a full intact copy of the Index Astardi's leaflet for the Steel Confessors from the event itself. So 20 years ago, the mystery was fully solved and the lost chapter was entirely found. So we get to talk about the lore of the Steel Confessors, as told from this index. And this will be written in universe as 100% true. like the Dorn poop vault stuff. Wow, the white, white, just, damn, just kind of found it again, huh? It was just in like a box. His parents played something like that.

I, um, so when I discuss the steel confessor's origins, um, I, again, I always be talking about it like the, like the poop vault. I'm like, a lot of these things are no longer canon, most likely, but I'm going to pretend as if they were. Sure. So, what we got here is the gene seam of the steel confessors comes, in fact, from the iron hands. But despite this, they were not part of the major foundings of successor chapters. And in the grand scheme of things, they are actually relatively new.

As we know, the iron hands have and continue to provide lots of support for the those Mechanicus. And so it was only a matter of time for the chapter to provide the Admec a present, a little bit of gene seeds. but why, you might ask. So in M36, the Iron Hands would send three companies to Aeth Scutari as they were attempting to retake the Barris system, which was an important testing facility in Foundry for Admex, so naturally reclaiming it was really essential. And it was currently under the command of a chaos renegame known as Overlord Baroth and his Dark Mechanicus cohort. And he had taken over the system to make his own, you know, chaotic war machines. Sure.

So the Iron Hands proved to be a godsend, or one might say a machine godsend. Ah ha ha ha ha ha. Uh, for the Admec. And so these Guitari were a bit entrenched due to their not as good combat abilities. And the iron hands were really more forceful. They would get a foothold on Barrus 3, would push back the overlords and their minions were about five years. And eventually the only planet that remained under the control with Baroth was the planet. of Tarver.

Now, Tarver was a planet specialized in refining shielding tech. So Baroth was able to easily defend this planet since it was a, it was literally a shield factory. If you can't defend that, you got some problems. Yeah, I mean, this is the easier one. So the Iron Hands were very eager to attack

and they did an extended bombardment of the planet to the point where they were able to unleash Thunderhawks to bring in all three companies. However, this was the intention of Overlord Baroth, and as soon as the Thunderhawks entered the atmosphere, the shields were then put back up, trapping the Thunderhawks inside so they could be relentlessly bombarded by planetary defensive batteries.

The venerable Dreadnought Grixis from the Gravehold Clan Company ordered an immediate retreat, which immediately hampered by the shields and made things very bad. So over half of the three companies, sorry, only half of the three companies survived, and the decision was made to land planet side.

Yikes. So, the main thing here was that after that, the Oval bombardments were done again in hopes to break the shield. And Captain Uleneer, not Olinor, which is also Armageddon, ha, ha, he.

Yay, we're back. Um, of the strike cruiser Omnisaya's might, signaled the Great Council to inform them of what was happening and requested immediate aid. The issue was that the closest force of Iron Hands was about a month away, and they didn't really have, you know, months worth of time. So three companies were facing total destruction, so the Great Council asked for further aid from the Admec by reminding them of the ties they have with the Iron Hands. and the admec responded with a massive armada that was made up of forces from all the surrounding systems, including the recently liberated planets in the Barris system.

The Armada made its way to Tarver to join in on pelting the shield in hopes to drop the defenses so the iron hands ground forces could be aided, especially since these iron hands were now holding a final stand at the planet's spaceport. And if I had a nickel for every final stand that Space Marines were doing at a spaceport, I'd have enough to make my own game day. I'm going to say, we could retire happily. You never see us again. They really do like that.

So eventually, after the space port stuff, the shield gave way and the Mechanicus landed their ground forces into the breach, including about 100,000 Scatari and four Warhound Titans. But they were

too, they were too late. Of the 300 Marines that had committed to the assault of the planet, 126 of them died in their Thunderhawks when they were trapped. 174 that remained were in the last holdout on the spaceport

and only 11 space Marines survived. Oh, that's, those are some heavy losses. The Iron Hands are used to it. Oh. Now, me when it is, Damn.

Ha ha ha ha. Teah. We're all suffering today, word bearer. That's iron warriors, but whatever. Yeah. Now, so eventually the forces of the overlord. The overlaw will push back, allowing the iron hands to take stock of the gene seed in their fallen battle brothers. So all three clan company, clan company commanders, good Christ, had died.

Easy for you to say. I know. All three of them had died. And it was an irreparable loss. In honor of the Mechanicus and their relentless ever to save the Iron Hands, the Great Council agreed to provide the Admec with some of the Gene Siem in the hope that the Admec could build their own rapid reaction force in the form of space Marines so they could be self-reliant and could fight back with the same might

that the Iron Hands had provided to them so many times in the past. Now, it should not surprise you that giving gene seed to the Admec to build their own space Marines is not kosher. No. I was going to say that that sounds like a lot of that doesn't sound like it's going to end well for anybody. I don't think they're going to do it.

And if they do do it, it's just going to end up as some abomination. It would either be a giant abomination or it would be something on the lines of a horrible heresy. Yeah, I was thinking that too. space marines are too proud for this stuff. I don't think they would give away their gene seed to the admec. Well, I mean, Iron Hands are buddies with the admins.

Yeah, they're good buddies. They're good pals. They came to the aid, right? Yeah, but I mean, they really just would not be doing that type of thing. Especially because that's probably some good heresy right there, you know, making your own space marines in a different method. So in return, the admec sent their most revered art. to help rebuild the companies and dedicated three entire forge worlds to help rearm the iron hands.

So the gene see that the mechanic has received was a sample from each of the three clan companies. And some of the greatest hero, God damn you shy. Ha ha. Rearm the iron hands. Rearm iron hands. Rearm. Yeah. Moving on.

So, it was the three clan companies for some of the greatest heroes the Iron Hands had ever seemed, and it was classed as pure, the gene scene. The only flaw being that the one that they show with the Iron Hands, which is the unreasoning fear of weakness that turns into hatred.

But much like with the Iron Hands, it is classified as an acceptable mutation due to how good it makes them at killing. So no time was wasted. The admec worked on the creation of this chapter almost immediately As the massive fight in the system as well as word of some potential deals Between the Iron Hands, the Admec caught the attention of the Ordo Hereticus Now, they petitioned the High Lords for the absolute destruction of this unauthorized chapter

As they do not trust the ad mech with the whole making space marines thing Yep, that's a fair opinion. I don't I kind of don't trust them either, but we're whatever. I do not. I don't like the idea of ADMEC being able to make their own space marines. It is, I am not a fan of this one. Yep. Very true.

Very, very, very based. Yep. So from that, the high lords reviewed it. And they allowed the Mechanicus to keep this chapter so long as they were codex compliant. The admec were a little pissy about it. But they, and they felt that they were being forced us to come to unfair guidelines. So in response, they named their chapter. the steel confessors.

Now, the confessor's armor is gunmetal gray with bone white shoulder pads and knee pads with a green trim. Their motif is a black cross with a white red circle in the center along with a white lightning bolt. Okay, okay. Now, the original home world

of the steel confessors would be Crances 4 in the eastern rim of the galaxy. It was a Forge World specialized in small arms production, so it was out of the way and not really a high target, so which is a perfectly quiet place to exist, recruit, and move on. That's what looks like, by the way, there's the red, the black cross, there's the red

little bit, and then there's the lightning bolt there. Oh, wow. All right. All right. That man, that is a dated mini. Yeah, that's the old tack marines. They're cute. Yep.

So, from that, despite it not being really high up target wise, Craxis 4 was dead in the middle of other mechanics facilities in the sector. which might the steel confessors could deploy with relative ease. And due to the lack of attention, the steel confessors were able to trade in secret, which would suddenly cease when the tyrantids would arrive. So High Fleet behemoth tearing through the galaxy put the steel confessors at the forefront against them. And they would fight the tyrantus so that the mechanicus could evacuate essential personnel and materials from the sector's planet that faced inevitable destruction.

And due to the spread of the tendrils, these steel confessors were thinly scattered across the eastern rim, but they didn't care. All that mattered to them was that they were serving their masters. Of course. However, you know, fun fact about the tyranids, just because you cover a steak with a napkin, doesn't mean they can't smell the steak.

So the shield for Craxis IV didn't do a damn thing when it came to hiding the planet from the High Fleet. And so when the Tyrannid showed up for dinner, the only available confessors there were half of the first company and chapter master Protonis. A company is about 100 space marines, by the way. Oh, man, they have no goddamn chance, do they? Yeah, so he immediately ordered the return of the third, fifth, sixth, and ninth companies,

as they were the closest, and immediately began the battle of Craxes 4, which lasted about three months, and the losses were horrific. Yeah. I was going to say, I'm surprised that lasted three months.

A part of me was going to be like, oh, what, three days, hours, months is, yeah, it's pretty impressive

that they lasted that long. I mean, they're space marines. They got, they got their, they got their big old shield. They're entrenched, you know,

that's that. Okay, okay, okay. Space Marines are known for killing aliens very well. That's true.

They are Zenos, killing machines. It's a space marine home world. Yeah. But three months, even with that, there was no way they could hang any longer. And so realizing it was a doomed effort, chapter master of Protonus ordered that transports be readied so that they could salvage as much as possible from the planet. Protonis held the line as long as he could, and the final defense was mounted in the fortress monastery. The tyrannids were held off as much as possible as the last few relics were transport out, and finally, he was able to break and escape himself, however, at a great cost.

The chaptermaster suffered injuries bringing him to the brink of death, and the remaining Steel Confessors would flee with the remnants with their chapter, including the gravely injured Protonus. And so they very quickly became a fleet-based chapter, except for two things that were on the planet of Calavala. Calavala was the home of the Steel Confessor's Librarium, as well as a tomb. This tomb hosted a bonus, the original chapter master of the steel confessors, who is being held in stasis until such a time that the chapter needs him.

Oh. And that is the general gist of the steel confessors. And an empiric imperial W. They evacuated most of their stuff. They got out except and they lost a lot, a lot of people, and mostly a couple of priceless artifacts. and apparently a person too. I was going to say, they also lost a bonus who's still in stasis.

And, well, that's not great. Not the best stuff. So, you know, Pyric Imperial W, we love to see it. Are we actually calling this an Empiric W? Is this a dub? I don't, this might be a Pyric Imperial L. I mean, I think it's more the fact that they... They lost a lot of people, and I guess they kind of got away, sort of.

Right. Is that a dub? For the Imperium, not full wiping out of the entire chapter as a dub. Okay. You know, if your planet doesn't entirely die. It sounds an awful lot like a loss to me. I mean, they escaped. They did. They lost a lot in the process.

They saved some of their relics, I guess. But, but. Okay. Maybe we'll, maybe we'll just say the dub is more tier and related. I was going to say this sounds like a tyranid dub they got the tyrantas got a tasty little treat and I guess some of them got away I mean yeah they evacuated some people

they killed a hive tyrant don't worry about it so pari capyrio dove let's go let's go so the steel confessor's combat doctrine is very similar to the iron hands they have an instinctual hatred of weakness

and in any form, including physical, and this made clear through the battle cry, which is, destroy the weak. Well, what a rallying cry for the people. So if they've, this part is insane to me. If they find their allies to be too weak,

they will actively fire on them as opposed to standing by them in combat. Because of this, the chapter is undergoing an inquisitorial investigation after the destruction of the 54th Talern Desert Raider regiment for quote failure to achieve objectives Oh wow

Man fuck those guys My my The guard regiment didn't do the objective So they killed them all Absolute shitheads What is this like this is just iron warriors What do you mean? Pretty much yeah

I like how you just turned on a dime On the steel confessors What you found out that they just obliterated a guard regiment for failing. Man, fuck these guys. Listen, there's like leaving to die and then there's actively firing upon them. Damn. And they are definitely ad mech built.

That is. Yeah, I mean, so because of their direct connection to the Mechanicus, of course, they have a ton of bionic enhancements. All the steel confessors have a strong affinity with machines. And this affinity is the predominant trait looked for in potential recruit. Now, due to the sheer amount of bionics they receive, the battle brothers of the confessors go through regular mental testing to make sure they're strong of will,

and all confessors will go to Medusa to fuck their brothers, I'm sorry, for training and indoctrination under a clan company as agreed upon by the Magos of the Admec and the iron hands themselves, which is where they learn the history of the iron hands. Oh, man, those brother fathers, you don't want to run into those. Mm-mm. So unlike the iron hands, these steel confessors do not actually have iron fathers. They have chaplains and tech marines as a separate entity.

Every captain is trained in both the ways of a tech marine and an artifice serb, and it fulfills both roles as proof of his blessing of the Omnisiah. So these steel confessors are pretty relentless on the battlefield. They give the enemy no time to organize. They act almost kind of like berserkers. They just like go in fast. and they have a full complement of Terminator suits maintained by both the chapter and the Admec.

In fact, so much so that the Terminator suits are almost kind of like seen as the forefront of most battles the confessors engage in, as the presence of the Terminators provides almost a divine inspiration for the rest of the chapter based on just how like unrelenting they are. Yeah. Do the, uh, oh, well, you're probably going to get into this.

I was going to ask, how about, how about dreadnots? I got to believe that like the steel confessors got to have some banging dreadnods. I mean, iron hands. They love dreadnots. I love dreadnots. So that wouldn't surprise me one bit. Also, yeah, Shai said, I'm not the only one who's like, fuck these guys.

It is lore accurate in the booklet that some Imperial Force would refuse to fight by them because they were such dickheads. I mean. Based. I wouldn't blame me. It's like, oh, we think you're kind of weak. It's like, oh, you dick. Yeah, I'm not going to.

fight side by side with these guys, send me to a different area. Yeah, literally anywhere else, yeah. So, now obviously, due to the loss of their homeworld and their relegation to being fully fleet-based, their armor support is much more substantially damaged, even with their ties to ADMEC. So they only use vehicles if the situation is required.

I don't know if this counts dreadnots or not. Our hands love dreadnots, but I can see them being, they also love like tanks. so they just don't use a ton of tanks. They're very, assume their shtick is terminators. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, there's some dreads on the table,

true in those old photos, and there are some land raiders and stuff, no doubt, but there's also an insane amount of terminators there. Like, good God, that is so many terminators. Holy. And how do they replenish their numbers? Exactly, because there's only so much,

gene seed, right, that the ad mech were given to make space marines. Well, there's plenty of gene seed left. They keep dying. Unless what the bugs ate them. I mean, the bugs probably ate a lot of it, right? They most likely did. They do like that food. So, as we said before, they follow the codex quite closely.

The first company is purely Terminators, which is normal. The second, third, fourth, and fifth are the battle companies, six and seventh are tactical, eight is assault, ninth is Devastator, and 10th is Scout. Now, these companies are tightly knit, and infighting very rarely happens. It is even common for Marines to move between companies within the steel confessors so that they can learn from other commanders and gain more experience. Now, the chapter master is voted for, oh my God, the chapter master is voted for by each

company commander, chaplain librarian, and dreadnought. And the chapter master makes all the major decisions for the chapter, but he does so by gathering the opinions of the other company commanders first as council sessions are essential. They also believe in something kind of interesting, which is the divine trinity. This trinity consists of the emperor, the omnisaiah, and Ferris Manus. They have a weird religious belief, which is that Ferris Manus is the messenger of of the Omnisiah, which, as you know, the Omnisaya is its own,

the prophet of the machine gob. Yeah. And the Bringer of Light. He is seen as the closest to the Omnisiah that a mortal can get and is the embodiment of pure inspiration. So despite their adoration of Ferris Manus, the link the Steel Confessors has, the Adeptus Mechanicus,

is closer than the Iron Hands have. So any given company is accompanied by three Magos to oversee the upkeep equipment and the blessings of the Omnisayas. So as you may remember, the Admec believe in the machine god. And many believe the Omn Messiah be the prophet of the machine god, which for many is the emperor. However, it is not always the emperor. And often there is the scenario in which some people believe that the Omnisiah is somewhere else, as opposed to the emperor. In this case, this would be Ferris Manus.

It's so weird to think of Ferris Manus as like the Omnisiah. It's a very, it's a strange thing. It's the voyage dragons, says shy. I think they may have gotten ahead of themselves with that one, eh? All right. Get your bingo cards. One Ferris Manus head, you had to do it.

You mentioned Ferris Manus and I was like, right? Someone has to. I was actually not going to and I was going to be like, at the end of the episode, I was going to do a, um, check it out. We didn't make a Ferris Manas head joke. Aren't you proud of us? And you ruined it.

you you gotta tell me these things beforehand you can't just let me wade into the the minefield like that and just hope I don't step on one minefield minefield out there you mentioned Ferris Manus

and you just push me out into the minefield of obvious head jokes no head but yeah beforehand beforehand right damn we're

we're we are on fire. Carry off. We need your back. Yeah, carry off. Wherever you do. Help. Help. We need the dog. We need the dog.

Anyway, so the tabletop chapter traits. So for tabletop players, the steel confessors did come with their own chapter traits. And this was back in the 4E Codex space marines. So they can confirm what they did back then, this being possum.

So they had the Sions of Mars. rule, which you may upgrade any tech marine to have an extra wound for 15 points. And any tech marine upgrade this way counts as an HQ selection, and you may not use commanders at all. You may amend the points cost for Terminator armor, 225,

unless the chapter results taking a spire to glory. So, it's the whole thing. Suffered out the alien to live, particularly good at fighting tyranids and a preferred enemy against tyrannids. This gives you a plus one point to your model and also every space marine non-veh

model used to must have this ability. The choice of preferred enemies should be apparent from trophies and other embellishments on the model, which is hilarious because at the time, 4E, they had rules that said, if they have preferred enemy tiramids, you should put some tyrannid shit on it on your model. It's make it look like that. Yeah, that's cool that you get like bonuses for just like, you know, converting some other tyrannid mini into just a trophy to put on your thing. That's cool. I like that. Well, I mean, it's more, you got the bonus regardless, but they basically said like, hey, make sure you show it off by putting stuff here. That's cool.

I like shit like that. Now, they do have their drawbacks, though, which is also a thing back in the editions. The we stand-alone drawback. The place of space rooms and the hierarchy of the impurember is a complex issue. And all chapter state and autonomy from the institutions of the Imperium. The degree cooperation in exhibit is highly variable. and many chapters are insular and isolationist. Basically, this chapter may not use allies.

And then the major drawback, which is flesh over steel, they have the heaviest equipment, some adopted specialized fighting techniques, which makes equipment less significant to them. The desire to prevail through their fighting qualities rather than machinery is also a factor. You may only take one selection in total in the following list. Land Raider, Predator, Destructed a World Win indicator.

You may not use the Land Raider Crusader or the Predator Annihilator. Each transport option, select him, use it of a fast-tax slot. It's basically like, hey, don't use that many vehicles. Yeah. Now, the continued mystery, this pretty much brings us to what we knew beforehand. The third Tyrannic War is underway, and after soloing Tyrannus for quite some time, a tendril of High Fleet Leviathan would make its way directly for Calavala, and Chapter Master Protonis, who is still hurting badly,

rallied as many men as he could for the fight of Calavala. And a loss there could spell the end of the chapter. But unfortunately, we have no idea how this battle went. Because that was what we were talking about when it came to the big fight. Yeah. The alleged, alleged result from the lexiconom article that was published in 2006, said that the 10 companies held the line and were able to thin the tyrannids out and ultimately exhaust. them. But this was at a massive loss.

The eighth and tenth companies have been destroyed to a single man, first company at 40% strength, and third and six companies were at 60% strength, with the remaining at a ballpark between 20 to 40. So pretty damn battered. This would also track,

considering that Talos in the book stated them as the, quote, crippled steel confessors chapter. And this was decided by like everybody that played that day, right? Like this was like the, that was like the whole big draw, right? Yeah, that was the thing.

This was the battle they did to find out what could happen. It makes sense probably that the confessors would win because everybody's probably hyped up on them. Everybody wanted to play as the confessors probably, right? Well, I mean, most people, a lot of people did. I think it was 19 tables we're playing as a confessor. Yeah. That tracks. Now, that is the big mystery of the steel confessors generally solved.

The mystery of what the outcome was is a bit of a question still. But it was pretty cool to have this old mystery kind of revitalize and brought back to the fold. That's old Warhammer lost media and allowing us to kind of see what happened is pretty neat, like I'll say. That is really cool. Is there any other, like, so still confessors have been known to be like, well, we just don't know what happened. and nobody has the thing until just recently. Are there any other chapters, characters, anything like that that's also just like,

oh yeah, it's just lost. We know it existed, but nobody has a little pamphlet from the event or something like that. Oh, positive. But this is good. This dates back to the 80s. I mean, like it's,

there's probably many lost things that people don't even realize are lost because it's so far away, you know? Yeah. but like people knew the steel confessors were a thing at least. Some did. I mean, not everyone.

I mean, they saw it because of things as mentioned before, like Talos mentioned it in his leg, right? His leg armor or whatever. And therefore, that is why that you can, you know about it in essence.

So, so like, yes, but no. I hope someone else is looking in their basement and finds a cool little hey this was a thing I'd be down for that you know I actually okay so like on the point

of game days I'm actually really I think games workshop actually has a very unique position to be able to bring this kind of thing back this index this kind of deal in a way that's really interesting

because I genuinely I genuinely feel like there is a world where good old detachment system that we currently are using. So currently we have the way detachment works

in the game is that you have an army rule which is for your faction like Space Marines. You have a detachment which represents like the like iron hands, white scars, whatever. They have a rule for that. And then you also get four enhancements that you can pick from to make your character

certain things. And then you get your six stratagems. And I 1,000% can see a cool game day situation where you can create a detachment for that game day. And just like, hey, this is the brand new thing. Here is the Silver Skulls detachment that you get to play for the game day and decide the fate of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I don't know. I just like, like, I feel like you have a lot of fun rule customizations available because now they've created a template that's easily, uh, that's easily like, uh, uh, that's easily like, uh, uh, adjusted and I would I would kill for this I'm not I'm sad I'm not going to be able to go back to the

the narrative event this year but I genuinely think there's some cool stuff you can do with that idea oh yeah that'd be so sick having a full event which is like oh yeah this is the the new faction and oh you can have a hand in determining their lore based on how well the games go that'd be so cool so many people would go in for that and I think that would like bring a lot of people to actually start playing again because they're like, ooh, I can have a hand in this. I can try the new Army or whatever or the new minis. Man, that's a gold mine.

You are sitting on a gold mine. Well, I also can see it as like, now, making new miniatures is hard. I'm like, straight up, like, Games Workshop is a hard thing to do. Making and, like, designing, artistry, making the mold, making it, especially in Games Workshop itself,

in Nottingham, they do not have the production often. One of the things that is very annoying about Games Workshop is that they simply, they do all of their stuff when it comes to making miniatures in-house,

which is really, really good for money as someone who has a merch site that tries to do everything in-house. It is very good for cash, because you have a lot of control over it. But it's also very expensive at the same time. The capital needed to get it up and running is very hard. And so, that's also why

for the most part, they end up doing stuff overseas. And for like books and stuff, like their codexes, for example. Right. Yeah, yeah. And so because of this, there is a whole realm where you take this look and you take this idea and you take this stick. And you can end up having this really fun game day. You make rules for it. You have people sign up to play as that faction.

Maybe you give them a color scheme and you do some cool stuff there. And then based on the outcome of, of that thing, maybe the chapter master lives just barely. And then you can make yourself this awesome new space marine miniature based on that particular outcome. So not only are the fans getting a chance to decide the fate of things like this, but there is a genuine, like, visual result from it all. And that is, that's just really, really fun.

Now, granted, making a miniature is really, really, goddamn hard and takes a lot of effort and you probably won't see it for like a year. But there is a realm where you return a little bit to that more player input that was there while still making it modernized.

Because I think you can do both. I think we're, you know, games workshop tends to fling one way or the other. I think we can absolutely do both. So I don't know. I know it's a lot of effort and a lot of work, but I mean, even the steel, I mean, the Steel Confessor Chapter Master do that Chai is posting. Like, he looks sick as hell.

Oh yeah, he looks dope. That's super sick. We can absolutely get back to that. I love the look. It is really cool. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. But anyway, that's the steel confessors.

They're huge assholes. But their origin is cool. Shocking. What do you know? The space marines that were made by the admec are huge assholes that can't be trusted. Who would have thought? Who would have thunk? Who would have thunk that when the admec have control over something, it gets bad.

I'm talking. It's almost like every space marine hates the admec for a reason. They are iron hands after all. That is true. And people don't like iron hands a ton. Yeah. Yeah, that is how it goes. Crazy.

Anyway, that is, that's the episode. A little bit of lost. media, a little bit of old game day stuff. If any of our viewers have any experiences with some of the old game days from back in the day, if any of you have, uh, you know, all of you with, uh, wife and kids in a 401k want to share some of your experiences with some of the stuff out in the UK, I would love to hear, would love to hear from it. Um, uh, so whether you're, if you're a patron and you are on our Discord to share it there,

or just in the comments as well would be lovely. And outside of that, that's what we got. A much more, a much more fun and wholesome episode than the War of the Beast.

Yeah. Slaughter, slaughter, slaughter, slaughter. I am slaughter, slaughter, slaughter, slaughter. Did I mention slaughter? Slaughter. You did mention slaughter. You did actually. Crazy.

Let me mention it again. Crazy. Crazy. I was going to say, Warhammer 40K players with a 401k, brother, they cashed that out a long time. Ah, you know.

Mini crack, come on, man. They cash that shit out a long time ago. Who needs a future? I need more dreadnots and titans. You don't know that. You don't know. Anyway, thanks for listening, everyone. And look, we went almost the whole episode

with an iron hands. Oh, right. Go by the shy plushy. Thank you.