Adeptus Ridiculous - STORM OF IRON | Warhammer 40k Book Club

Episode Date: August 6, 2023

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Welcome everybody to another episode of the Book Club, the Warhammer 40K book club. I am one of your host, Bricky. Joining me as my co-host, D.K., and we're going to tell you about the books we read involving this horrible universe. Before we get started, if you want to check out all the great new stuff that you can get at the Patreon down in description, patreon. com slash Adeptis Ridiculous. You can join the Discord, chat with your fellow people, get HD posters, bloopers if they happen, all the good stuff. And

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especially for you Iron Warriors fans because he's a... You know, he's kind of in that stick. That's a spicy shirt. That's a... Oh, yeah. It's a spicy design. Oh, yeah.

It's about spicy as a meat stick. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Death to the false emperor. Yeah. Your corpse god will not save you from this elbow. That was actually really good, D.K., good job. I think we found your calling his impressions.

I think we found your... Wrestling impressions, specifically. I got that macho man stuff down. You get your orc down pretty well, too. That's true. That's true. The orc and Randy Savage impressions, I feel like, are slightly adjacent. You know, you got to tap into the same sort of gutter old,

oh, yeah, it's a lot, you know, they're adjacent. I would agree. They're both meatheads and you think about it. That's true, yeah. Actually, that's not true. One is a vegan. Literally. Yeah.

Hey, so, book. Book, book, book, book, book. Storm of iron. Storm of iron. A book that came out quite a while ago. like, really? 2002, I think.

Oh, it is a oldie. Let me actually check this. Well, the audiobook just came out like, I think last year in 2022. Oh, okay. Yeah, originally published 2002. Damn. And because of that, you might have like some statements

about like how the Marines and stuff act in this book. And you might be like, that's strange, but it might make sense because this. is kind of before some certain things were really fully fleshed. But before we give our thoughts, Shai has a review. Shai has, oh, that's right. She actually read this book, Brighie? Absolutely shocked.

Oh, wow. All right. Who's going to read her review? Is it going to be me, you? You can do it. You can do it. Not as Randy Savage. You don't want me to read her review?

I enjoy Storm of Art. I enjoyed the storm of iron. It got a little bit exhausting in the last hour, but it kind of was thematically appropriate, so I didn't mind. I think it portrayed everyone fairly. Iron Warriors Guard and Spoilers. Imperial fists are all portrayed well and respectfully, except the adeptus mechanicus, who are once again complete idiot, idiots, which seems to be the theme among Warhammer books. Hanso is a fun protagonist. His character for me was defined during the duel where he faces the imperial commander who gives in the whole your face noble lord so-and-so commander glorious blah blah blah blah blah blah and hanso's like hello i'm hansu a traitor at mongrel

an asshole i'm gonna kill you now uh yeah um a hawk story was fun and caused one of the coolest moments of the book the avatar of corn thing was unexpected and as i heard caused a lot of rage among certain people so that's cool why would that cause rage uh if you're an ironwar fan i want to learn more on how iron wars operate i think it's a must read because because it well portrays their industrious efficiency, but also how that efficiency is hampered by their chaos degradation. Fun war book, Strong Light 8 or Strong 7 out of 10. All right.

Well, I mean, interesting. Is that why? Because it's the female guard slave that does it. What's her name? I keep wanting to call her Latara Serrin, but that's not. She's like Utorian or something. It's like Lorana. Corona, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's something similar to that, but... It's because the Avatar of Korn gets her and juices her up and she puts on power armor and is essentially a female chaos space marine. And people got mad at that. I thought people were mad at it because it was a guard slave story. And I was expecting her to, like, revolt and, like, you'll never defeat us. Like, the strong hammer of the emperor and, like, charge him with, like, a melter grenade. Yeah, I thought that's what it was going to be too. Like she would somehow

through her bravery as a guards person, you know, like you said, she would have a grenade or she would trip an explosive and it would kill a bunch of iron warriors and obviously, most specifically, Kroger, because screw Kroger. But yeah, I wasn't expecting her to

become the new avatar of Korn and dawn Sarah might and convince all the Iron Writers. that she was Kroger. I mean, spoilers also, by the way. Whatever. They've read the book if they're here, I hope. Yeah, but not everyone has. I mean, I guess that might be one of the things people got set out about

because this was back in 2002 when Warhammer was a lot less intolerance. Joke, funny statement. It resembled the lore a lot more, the fan base. So things have gotten better before. I thought it was because I was, people were mad that it was not going to be a guardsman overcoming their horrible situation story. But I won't lie, I was certainly shocked when she, though, Grants, hey, you know, Kroger got his comeuppets.

He surely did. He got his comeuppets. I thought it was cool because he got his comeuppets. If she turned in some corn-ass, like Avatar and then fought with them, I'd be like, ah, it's stupid. But him getting all butchered up was great. I like that. Yeah, he deserved it.

He needed to have something wildly awful happened to him. And boy, did he get it. Love it. It's great. For a lot of this book, I was like, are the guard going to win? Are they going to hold with, are they going to hold the defenses? Like, what the hell? This is an Iron Warrior book.

They can't, right? I think because it was an Iron Warrior book, I knew that they wouldn't. But they definitely had a bit. a good bit of back and forth sometimes. What about a, well, what did you think of the book, D.K.? I actually quite liked the book. I feel like I liked it because there was all, it felt like there was always something interesting going on.

Like if there wasn't combat, there was like some sort of shenanigans happening with the Imperium guys that was like, oh no, we're being, someone's betraying us. Uh-oh, well, who blew the, the shafts. Why'd they blow the shafts? What's going on? Why is the planet so important? And then like the Iron Warriors are also like, oh, Hansu, you filthy, half-breed, you're a traitor. And Hansu's like, oh, I'll get you guys one day. And then you got the nonsense with the warsmith. And it just, it felt like there was always something interesting going on. And so I like that there

were no real boring moments, I guess. I mean, that's fair. I think it's interesting because this is our first ever, I think, if I'm not mistaken, they are called Apocalypse Books, where there's like a kind of a subgenre of 40K books called Apocalypse Books, which is basically the story of an apocalyptic battle. Yeah. Because you can play apocalypse on tabletop, which is like,

you know, you have 2,000 points on each side. I think Apocalypse is like 40,000 points on each side. Whoa. That's like a little bit of an upgrade. It's like weekend long videos or weekend long games. Oh, wow. That's the whole point is it's like a gigantic scale battle. Yeah, like a battle to end all battles on whatever poor planet you're on.

Exactly. But so this is, I remember I read Pandorax, which was the Grey Knight Dark Angels catachin book against Nergel. And that was also what you would call probably. Apocalyptic. Apocalypse book. And so I guess this is your first like four reigns of apocalypse books, which is basically just the book is the battle.

It's the whole battle and that's the whole book. Yeah. And boy it was. And boy it was. The battle for Hydroquartatus. What would you rate out of ten while we're starting this off? I would give it a strong eight out of ten. It's solid.

It's good. Is it perfect? Maybe not, but I would still recommend it highly. So, yeah, it's one of the better books I've read, sure. All right. I'm not as, I'm not as keen on it myself. Oh, really? No, I'm like a five. A five? I'm like a five. Is this, is it just because this is my first phara end of Apocalypse books? Or like, what it, a five? Why would, why in the hell would, would my rating change? Because if your, you're, foray into apocalypse books. I was thinking like... I was going to give it a four for the Fourth Legion,

but I chose that that's just too mean. So I was just thinking like, am I giving it such a higher rating and do I like it so much more? Because this is like my first time reading an apocalypse book and maybe like there's something about other apocalypse-style books that makes this one look a little lesser

by comparison? Is that... So there's a lot of reasons. There's like six parts that that kind of bring it down and obviously it's like my oh yeah

it's my bias it's sort of my bias well one I'm not huge on Apocalypse books to begin with oh okay it's just not really my my favorite thing I'm very well remember

out of all the books we've read I mean obviously the night lords are the top ones but there's like bloodlines is one of my favorite books and it has like almost nobody battles at all. Oh, that's true. We differed very much on our opinions of bloodlines, too,

where we were kind of flip-flopped, where, like, I kind of was like, it's so boring. Nothing happened. And you really liked the sort of intrigue behind it. My issue is mainly the fact that, like, most Apocalypse books don't focus a shitload on the characters. And while there is a little bit, like, I liked, what was it? There were a couple of characters I liked. I like guardsman Falk. I agree with shy. The missile scene, the missile scene was the best part of the entire book. The missile scene was great. I'm not gonna lie. That is

pretty fantastic. Especially when they're like, hey, Hawk, here's what we need you to do. And he's like, you want me to what? I liked that. I liked the disconnect between him and the, and all of his orders. I also,

but yeah, like a lot of the Iron Warrior stuff, I don't know. Hansu didn't do much for me? He was kind of a wet. I thought he was a bit of a wet blanket. I liked the warsmith the most. I thought he was a baller. Oh yes. The warsmith was very cool. I loved like the descriptions of like how disgusting he made you feel like even if you were chaos. They were like, oh, he makes my skin crawl and I want to vomit and oh, but like it's that. I liked, I liked the gal who turned all corn, but she didn't get a lot of screen time.

Yeah, that's true. She didn't, yeah. She was only there a little bit. I think there's also, like, obviously the guards, the guard stuff besides Falk was really just kind of mid. Hanzu losing his arm to a random Castellan with a power sword was a little shocking. Oh, yeah, hi, Castellan and Boban. Yeah, it didn't really, I was like, oh.

Yeah, I got to be honest, when I read that part, I was like, did I miss something about because I know that Voban was the high castelin, and that's an important role. He's like the leader of the people in Hydro-Cordatis, but I was like, he's not even a space marine, is he? Like, he's not, he's kind of just a human, isn't he? Or am I, did I mix things up and I don't understand what a high-castleon is? No, you're correct. The high-castel was just a very high-ranking military arm officer. Yeah, I do find, I did find it a little hard to believe that he took Hansu to the limit where Hansu had to sacrifice his arm in order to kill Vobin.

That there is, that's what I was saying earlier about the whole, this book was made in 2002. Because we also kind of had a little bit of this with Gant's Ghost when we first read it where like an Iron Warrior came out of an elevator and they killed him with like seven guys on a high, uh, powered Laz. True, true. And you're like, varies from author to author as the how powerful of Space Marine actually. Although, I don't know. Now I'm a little conflict because it was nice that like the Imperium didn't just. roll over to the Iron Warriors and that they actually put up a fight.

It's kind of nice that it was just a total steam roll, right? So it's kind of. So Shia makes a point where Hans, who's a cool guy, who was made as a living in soul, the Imperial Fis Gene Seen, spinning on the whole thing. I would agree, maybe wet blanket's the wrong word.

He was a stoic, grumbly iron warrior. He just wasn't very interesting to me. Like, he fit the Iron Warrior thing plenty well. He just wasn't a very interesting character to me. But I got to be honest, yeah,

the guard held off pretty well. The guard did some pretty cool stuff. I liked, I liked the, some of the, the basilist, cartillary firing, and I liked,

I liked all that kind of stuff, but the Imperial Fists arrive and then just get clobbered, absolutely bodied within like the first hour of their arrival. It's so hilarious, how bad they get beats. Well, they show up and they, they, they, don't they, don't they help in the defenses for like a day?

And then, yeah, the next day, when it's like the main offensive of the Iron Warriors, it's like, yeah, they kind of just get bodied. Their librarian gets absolutely dunked on. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. They do. They do kind of get dunked on. It's, they obviously arrive, turn the tides, and then they, they go back and they, it's just,

eh. It's true. Their librarian did try to mess. with the avatar of corn, which not gonna go well for your average librarian, true, true. So, so, I mean, I don't know, I kind of

like faded in and out of consciousness listening to this book. I was like, artillery fire, basilists, slaves, dying slaves, slaves being killed, iron warrior shooting, bolter fire, okay,

oh, this missile scene is really good. I like, okay. six, sick. The last like two, like the last like third I was a bit more into it than I was in the first two thirds.

But I don't know. It doesn't have a lot for me. Honestly, if anything, I think it's just a really good book showing the strategies of the Iron Warriors. Watch as we dig a million trenches and fire demonic howitzers at you for like days.

That part's cool. Dig in the trenches to get under the, the walls and plant the explosives to weaken it. Yeah, yeah. Siege. Siege. All right. So. Also, yeah, the, the, the Iron War is using the prisoners of war to determine how far.

Determine ranges. The range. Oh, yeah. That was, that was absolutely some saving private Ryan shit for the, for the one gal. Oh, yeah. That was, uh, whew. But, uh, but that was, that was pretty, pretty great. Like I said, shows off all of the Iron Warriors' methods.

And how chaos are they? Well, I'm glad you asked. It is interesting because they don't seem to detest, they don't detest chaos like, like, say, well, from us reading the Night Lord's books, some of them detest chaos, not all of them, but some of them. But the Iron Warriors don't really detest chaos. they seem them as more of like a means to an end.

Like tools, which makes sense because Iron Warriors are like grinding industry. I also did like, I forget who said it, but where they are like convinced that like, hey, everybody needs to go to chaos because that's the only way humans are going to survive in this crazy world with Eldar's orcs, tows and alien monstrosities. It's like, you got to go to chaos. Chaos is the only way humanity has any chance of survival. We got to get chaos roided up. Otherwise, humanity, no chance. I don't know why, but I thought that was like an interesting, like, mindset for chaos to have that they're actually doing this for humanity's betterment. Which is kind of a horace-y thing.

That's kind of like a horace-esque mindset, right? It's hard to tell because Horace was so corrupted by that point. Also, it's also because Big E was a liar, and they were very, very. upset about Biggie being a liar. But I will say that, yeah, it's the idea is that humanity can't survive a war with the Eldar Tirinids Katan and Necrons and so on, unless they are juiced up to the gills by chaos. And so there is a bit of that.

It's hard, it's hard to tell how much of that is the chaos corruption speaking. Mm-hmm. True. But, you know, it all, it really depends. I will say one of the reasons my score was brought down a little bit too is not actually a fault of the writing. It's not like a Graham McNeil issue. I didn't thoroughly enjoy the VA for the audiobook. Oh, really?

I thought the VA did a fine job. I mean, it was nothing like outlandishly amazing, but I was like, this is good. I enjoyed him. My issue for him was like most British VA. he does the guardsman perfectly. But I think he doesn't have enough voices. Like a lot of the, like he sometimes would be like, Megos something said this.

And the mego's just sounded like a guard colonel. And I'm like, well, way, he needs to be a lot more like horse and docky like this, like the other ones. Right. Okay. A lot of the Iron Warriors kind of blended together. There wasn't a huge range for impressions. I could have used a bit more.

Oh, okay. I mean, now that you, you say that yeah, it's true. A lot of them did sound very similar, maybe just very slight changes, but yeah, that's I, I, it was a little bit of that. Maybe I'm being a pedantic asshole, but

I mean, obviously, if that's how you felt, that's how you felt. Like, that's, you know, there's not been wrong. I mean, the VA wasn't like, was, was far from bad. He, he worked well with a lot of the reading of the book itself, but for some of the voices, that's where I kind of, it kind of fell short for me.

Yeah. How did you feel about the admec being portrayed as mindless idiots again? You know, actually, that's funny you say that. Shai mentioned brutal cunning was a lot like this book, but I liked that one. And to retort on that one, Adneck was also stupid in that book. They were very dumb in that book. They were, yeah. But I found the brutal.

cunning to be a lot better from character development. Also because it was just, it was funny. Yeah. It's different when like the most apocalyptic proportions are happening. And it's an orc a grot, a two orcs a grot and a squig driving a car really fast into a titan. Into a titan, yeah. Yeah, it's a lot more fun that way.

And winning. You know, I, you know, I love my guard to death. But, but I, we heard like 15, the enemies of chaos are at our door, men. speeches in this book and I'm like, oh my gods. Oh, that's true. There were a lot of those speeches of like, this could be your last day, man, fight to the death. And yeah, I guess they did do that quite a bit, didn't they? I feel like diehard guard fans were just like creaming their jorts and I'm sitting here like, I've heard this so many times. I need something a little bit more substantial. It's different when Gaunt or Caius Kane does it because they have character.

This is just random castellan dude man. I feel like that's one of the reasons I'm so surprise you gave this a five is because like the guard are shown in like even though they don't necessarily win they're shown in a pretty good light for holding off the iron warriors for as long as they did and i was like man brickie has got to be just orgasmic over how well the guard are doing right now and then you're just five i'm just like what what i think we had this conversation before i don't i don't find the competency to be the interesting part. I need a good character to be showing off the competency. Fair enough.

Fair enough. It's like, what is it? Like, I don't know. It's like when, when we read, oh, crap, what was it? Was it Caiaphas Cane? It might have been, oh, yeah, it was Caius Cane. It was at the end of Caiapus Cane when the prisoner or like, like, like death row sniper guardsman kind of guy kind of oh yeah was you know he was like he would

kind of showed it he died which was unfortunate but he was showing off like a lot of really good prowess at the end and really really being kind of a baller and only did was shoot a couple gene stealers I was mad that he died me too but he is like his character was so much more interesting like miss me with the with the 5,000 basilisk artillery hold the line men hit me with those those strong character moments and I give so much more of a shit. Okay. Okay. That's, that's, I don't know.

That's just kind of the way I feel. I mean, I just finished up Disco Elysium and the character is the most pathetic, pathetic person ever. Like, it's all about the character. True, true. You got to have those strong, believable characters that really get you invested instead of just, yeah, okay. I see where you're coming from. I don't think there's anything wrong with your point of view. It's why it's why Guardsman Falk is the best part of the garden this whole book.

Is it Falk or Hawk? I thought it was Hawk. It's Hawk. You're right. It's Hawk. I screwed up. I was like, are we is Guy Fawke? Guy Fierry. Guy Fierry, Guy Fawkes. We're out here in the 5th of November. Hydro Cordatus.

Well, we're going to find the grazed barbecue on this side of the segmenting solar. We're rolling out. Yeah, sure. But, I mean, he was the best part of the guard because he at least had character. He was characterized. He was a shit, like a shithead, but he kind of got a little better, you know, he started doing good job at the end. That's why I also kind of like to look. At the very beginning of the book, he was reprimanded and punished for that cold listening station because I showed up late to work because I was too drunk.

What do they want from me? It's Hydro Cordadus. And every time they talk about him on the phone, they're always like, oh, my God, it's Hawk again. We're leaving this up to Hawk? Are you guys sure? I don't know. His record is not good. Hence the missile part being the best part of the book, because it's all set up.

And now he's a hero, because even after being a screw up, and it's like, yay. Yep, yep. Might be a little spoiler, but were you excited? expecting him to live? No, I really wasn't. I was expecting him to like, oh, guys, I'm here, save me, save me. And then I was expecting them to literally blow the planet. And then he would just die in an eruption of fire and, you know, destruction.

I wasn't expecting an imperial fist ship to land and be like, don't worry, we caught you, and take him back home. I was also not expecting the Imperial Fists to get mulched like manure. What was his name? The Terminator guy, Fennix? Forks. Oh, forks. Oh, man, he was like, just dropped like 10 of them by himself. When he was in the tunnels, he took on like a whole platoon of Imperial Fists after they tried to like wash them out with literal sewage.

Yeah, he was a, forks was a bad man. Forks was. Forks did not live to tell the tale, but... No, he couldn't take two warhounds. No, unfortunately not. He could only get one of them. Dang. He's not as cool as Lorgar who got shot dead in the face with one of them. Yeah, he could only take on one war hound with his Terminator's.

Unfortunate. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. The, well, I mean, I will say a lot of the, the ending things for all the characters, I think is what, what salvaged the book a little bit for me. Because I didn't expect to hear Falk Live. Didn't expect the yell to turn into an avatar of chaos of corn and murder. Absolutely. Well, no, not the librarian. Well, him too, but the corn, the corn Iron Warrior guy.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, uh, um, um, Croger. Kroger. Who did not expect that? He turned his head into a bloody mess on the floor. That was great. Uh, and the warsmith ascending to demonhood. Oh, that, yep, yep, because they, because the big reveal was that, because the whole book, they're like, why do we care about hydrochordatus again?

This is a nowhere, backwater, little nothing planet. It's like, oh, by the way, look at all the gene seed. And Which didn't they Oh yeah, that's right Didn't the Imperial Fists send Just like a bunch of guardsmen To guard the gene seed?

Yeah There weren't like any fists there You would think they would send The Space Marines to guard the gene seed Yeah, that was shocking to me I was like wait I was like Go defend the gene seat

They're like what But what? We'll buy you time Well, oh no wait They didn't go to defend the gene seed They all knew that they were like Okay look we're losing this battle. So hey, guard, do us a big favor. We'll hold off these chaos space marines. You guys

go destroy all the genie, because it's way better if all of that stuff is just destroyed and unusable rather than, uh, chaos got it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's also part of an ad mech thing. Yeah, they didn't tell anyone because, and that's, that's why they made the guard take the detox pills, because they didn't want anybody knowing that, uh, that there was any gene seed there. Yeah, I will say it was nice that there was a detox pill reveal at the end. I was like, they keep mentioning this thing, but nothing's coming up in. I'm like, oh, okay.

I figured once Hawk was like, oh, no, I've run out of detox pills, but shockingly, I feel great. I feel amazing. I feel, you know, I feel strong. I feel more capable. My endurance is up. Ooh, wee. I was like, okay, those detox pills are poison. Okay, gotcha, got you.

They're tricking you. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. But, yeah, I think that's the reason for at the moment where we're having our, our, like, not confusion, but our, we're talking about all the, we're talking about all the weird parts of the story, all the bizarre parts of the story. But at the same time, it's kind of not the point because this is, it's an apocalypse book. This is like, you know, it's about a giant battle with Titans. True.

Oh, let's also not gloss over the tiered bio ship they repurposed. What? In the beginning. In what? Do I not remember this? Do that go over your head? Oh, shit. I think it went, I think that went right over my head.

Granted, I took a little bit of a break between reading the first bit and the last bit. So this might just be an instance of, hey, look, the memory is just not clicking like it used to. but excuse me? Oh, yeah. They took a Tyrannid ship, screwed it all up, infected it with the techno virus, obliterator virus,

and then shoved it into the eye of terror, into becoming this hybrid tyrannid plus metal iron warrior's ship. When the Titans first got dropped, it was a giant tentacle holding it from the sky, bring it down and going bloop, and then bring it right back up. I just thought that was some weird chaos stuff. Well, it was, but...

Yeah, I guess I didn't realize they had repurposed a tyrannage shit. I guess I just thought it was like, oh, yeah, that's just some chaos stuff. That's what the tentacles are for. Just, oh, no, chaos. Okay, oh, okay. All right. Oh, yeah. That was completely lost on me.

Did not realize that. Just thought it was... Yeah, chaos, sure, tentacles, sure. Okay. Okay. Wow, that's, yeah, okay, cool. Cool. Cool.

It's, hey, it is a huge... What is it? A huge statement to be said that they can do that because I don't think anyone's done it before. I feel like it was just a throwaway line or sense. I feel like it was just a throwaway line in the beginning. It's something to cool that happen. But now he's inadvertently made it so that Iron Warrior is the only people who have probably at all, at all been able to take over the tyrannids.

Yeah. backwards compatibility on the Tyrannid ship, let's go. Some of their war machines are actually enslaved demon engines, and when a piero fist set them loose, they immediately turn on Iron Warriors. Oh, yeah, I remember seeing that. And then the missile just blows everything to pieces,

and it doesn't matter what they had. I must say it was kind of funny when, or interesting when the guardsmen were, like, getting on top of the demon engines to blow it up, and they just got, like, horribly sick and felt terrible. As you should when you're dealing with chaos, yeah. There's a tiny part, though,

or one dude vomits blood when he's on it, and then just like into the grates, and then the demons goes, just sucks it all up, and I'm like, oh, my God, the floor is drinking it. So it's so appropriately chaos. So appropriately chaos.

Yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah, I enjoyed it. And Hanzu gets his come-up, not come-uppance, but he gets his reward at the end. Yes. After the warsmith goes to demonhood, he's like, look, I can't, obviously, I'm a demon prince, I can't stick around here anymore. So, Hansu, you're the warsmith now. Although, I mean, I guess he kind of had to because, you know, all of his other captains were, you know, dead. One was butchered by the female slave he brought on, and the other one died by, because he couldn't take on two titans.

Titans, yeah, you can only take the one Titan, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, no, no, I mean, the book itself, if you're like, I want to learn about Iron Warriors, or I want a big battle that's a little shut your brain off and just watch the carnage. Totally. It's a totally fine book for those kinds of people. I think for me, I'm just not a, I'm not big on that kind of topic. Yeah.

It's like, it's like if you were to give me a rom-com movie or something, I'd be like, I'm sure it's fine for the people who want to watch it, but for me, Yeah. I think this is like the perfect, like, sort of like, this, this is how Bricky and I differentiate what we like in books. Because like you said, in Bloodlines, man, you love that. Like, that was like your thing. Good book. And I was like, but where's my Warhammer? Where are my space marines? Where's my crazy battle? Where's my crazy chaos? And it's like, that's exactly what this book has, right? And it's just, this is like the perfect little. sampling of like our different tastes and books, which is fine. I must say, you know, the soy jack parabola, or is it, the inverse U-curve? The soyjack parabola? Sorry, the, the wojack bell curve. Okay, I'm about to make fun of you right now, and I apologize.

guys. Oh, man. Again. But this is how I see this right now. You are the newbie to Warhammer. I'm the old man in the Warhammer. I'm tired of Space Marines. So I've got the hood on on the right. And you've got the, and you, sir, I have depicted you as the crying Zuma Sojjack in the center. We're like, where's my space marines? I mean, fair. Fair. I do like it when like the space. and the Chaos Space Marines show up and just start boltering everything and just going a little kooky crazy and yeah I mean I haven't been in the hobby for you know over a decade so it's it's all still cool to me I still like Space Marines going all Space Marinei. Shai is inside the bell with a gun yeah she is the bell there's a I'm

I like these these are pretty good shy the soyjack bell curves hell yeah I like this one we check bell curves a lot. But no, I mean, it's just, I think, I think I'm kind of wanting more a little bit, but shy makes a good point. It's a book that's mostly combat.

If you like that and you want to read it, go to town. I would have just like a little bit more development on the characters that do the combat. Yeah. You know, you know what I wanted, I wanted an inverse of Master of Mankind.

Master of Mankind, the first two-thirds were a massive nothing-but-character development slog, which then made the last third, admittedly, pretty great because of the development. But overall, the book was inactive. I needed the reverse. I needed the first third to be really big on character stuff, and then the other two-thirds to just be murder-in-action. Yeah, that would have been good.

I would have gone for that. Sure. develop these characters into a fine red mist Develop these nuts Hey Hey All right

Yeah I was going to say There's not a whole lot Else to cover about our feelings on Hence the storm of iron Hey Hey hence it's a battle book It was battley battle There's a little development

There's a little drama in the camps Between battles But yeah for the most part It is Space Marine versus Chaos and Iron Guard, or Iron Guard. Imperial Fists. Imperial Fist, yeah, yeah. The most developed character was Guardsman Hawk, and that's probably why I liked him the most. Yeah, I suppose he probably is the most developed.

They try with Hansu. They try to really put a spotlight on Hansu, but I don't know if he gets quite as developed as they would have liked. Because for most of the book, you're right, he comes across his very much. It's like, oh man, my stupid gene seed, why does everybody hate me? I'm such a good soldier. I deserve more. Well, it's also because Hansu gets, I think this is like the set up.

I think it's the first time you actually, I think this is Hansu's first ever appearance in a book. And then there's a first appearance of Hansu ever? I think so. And then after that, there's a book called Dead Sky Black Sun. And then I think he slowly gets. gets more development with time, but I think this is, yeah, is this first ever book.

When, when, how far after this is the demon kilbasa? Um, no, next one is dead sky black sun, which is, um,

when he gets his metal arm, I believe. Oh, wait. That's true. Oh, is dead sky black sun the demon cobbasa one?

Oh. Oh, okay. Oh, you're right. You're right. Sorry. Sorry, Dead Sky, Black Sun is the ultra-marine novel. You're correct. My bad.

So is he using gene seed he got from Hydro Cordadus to do the demon kilbasa stuff? If it's the literal next one, that must be where he got the gene seed for the kilbasa, right? So that he could actually make chaos space marines and that weird thing. Um, it says he returned to Medrengar with the gene seed captured, uh, it's though he claimed the genecy was sent to Abadon. He kept some for himself using the captured gen Cee. It constructed unusual manufacturers to the demon cababa. Yes. So he kept some of it. Hey, of course, because he's chaos. Of course he's not going to send all of it to Abby. And I believe this is also the book that he gets the, um, his metal arm.

Okay. Where it's actually like, because now it's just like, in this book, he gets a metal arm, but it's not like the living metal that the Necron use. It's not like the necrodermis, right? He just has a funky, chaotic, mechanical arm now. Yeah, he has the Necron metal, living metal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's something to make you happy, D.K. Oh, it's probably going to be some Ultramarine murdering.

He stole living metal arm from Ultramarine. What a chat. What a great guy, this Hansu. Love him. Siege, siege, siege! Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, good times. Love it, love it. All right, I am ready for the next book.

Ooh, like, you already have it picked out, planned out? Yes, sir. Oh, right. It's Hell's Reach, isn't it? No, it's not. Oh, get dunked on everyone that's been asking for that. I am not interested in another goddamn Space Marine book.

Actually, what was that before Storm of Iron? The Assassinorum. Oh, Assasanorum was great. That was great. All right, so not that one. No, I think it's finally time we read this book. We've waited too long. It's recommended every day of our lives.

I think it's time we finally read Eisenhorn. Eisenhorn. This is like the detect. one, right? It's the Inquisitor detective one. Yep, yep. Oh, boy. All right. Now we can finally see what all the hype is about. Because, yeah, this gets recommended

every day in the comments. Let's go. Just the first. Just the first one. Just the first one. What's the first one called? I actually don't know. There's the Eisenhorn omnibus, but those are normally like multiple books. Oh. Well, read the

first Eisenhorn book then, everyone, for the next thing of the doodle. First Eisenhorn. Horn book. Which book is the first The Eisenhower trilogy? It's called Zenos. Oh, okay, cool. Gee, I wonder if aliens are involved.

No, probably not. No, no. It's called Zenos. There's no way. It's written by Dan Abnett, who wrote a good old God's Ghosts. Oh, okay. So, high expectations. The Inquisition moves amongst mankind

like an avenging shadow, striking down all the enemies of humanity with uncomparizing ruthlessness when he finally corners an old foe inquisitor Gregor Gregor Eisenhorn is drawn into a sinister conspiracy. No. I think there's a

I think there's a Arbides guy on the cover like a Judge Dred looking dude. God damn it. And now every time a book is like oh, a sinister conspiracy, it's like it's the ad mech, isn't it? The ad mech are doing some weird thing, aren't they? The ad mech are doing some funky stuff because

man at some point we're gonna get a book where they respect the admec right and don't paint them as like basically traitors

right at some point we're gonna get that right I mean I guess we did we did um Belisori's call

I mean sure but they don't paint call in the best light as being like the greatest for the Imperium since he's always doing stuff he's not supposed to right

like he's constantly inventing new things. Everybody hates him for making Primera Space Marines. It's not like he's painted in a great light either, even in his own freaking book. All right, screw this shit. We're reading Eisenhorn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get out here. Stinky.