Adeptus Ridiculous - TERMINATORS: WHERE THEY STAND, NONE SHALL PASS | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

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Karyos, what are we doing today? With you, it's usually dreadnots, machines, tanks, Eldar ship, something like that. So I got to believe today is going to be some sort of Warhammer 40K heavy machinery. There's definitely a type, isn't there? I've got a type. Well, I have, I have a quote for you. This is pre-worn, like the last time we did a sort of quote, very difficult to find specific quotes for a lot of the stuff that we talk about when I'm here.

So, I made this up, so you want to find it. But I've got faith that you'll get this straight away, okay? You're already taking a much bigger leap than shy and or bricky. No pressure at all. When overwhelming force is required, or the cursed hallways of twisted vessels need to be cleansed, when the angels of death must stand impervious in the face of fire and fury, these holiest of relics are deployed, and when battle is joined, the enemy will find itself falling under the hammer of the finest warriors a chapter has to offer.

Oh, no. So it's definitely Imperium. Yep. Very, very clearly. Hammer makes me think Thunderhammer. Yeah. I'm trying to think who specifically, who specifically has? Thunderhammers? Is there a chapter that's like known for having Thunderhammers? It's less a chapter specific thing and more a like war gear thing that's related to a certain, a certain like, what's the, what's the phrase?

Like, uh, not layout. Um, like war gear selection. You know, I, I kind of, I, I'm going to guess this knowing I'm wrong, but I, I would love an episode just on how Thunderhammers work. It's not that, but who uses them. I would love it, because, like, in Dark Tide, you just punch a button and the thing just and then you just smash someone into oblivion like they were a baseball. So despite knowing it's wrong, God, I'd love an episode on, like, the inner workings of a

Thunderhammer. There's got to be one for power weapons and stuff. That's got to be it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Power weapons in general? Well, you are going to get a little. little bit of like who uses thunderhammers because today we're going to talk about terminators and terminator adjacent armors.

Oh, it's just termies. That's, that's fair. Termes would use Thunderhammers more than regular, okay. A part of me for some reason was thinking of custodes too, custodes, but I was like, no, Bricky wouldn't, like, Bricky would kick himself for missing an episode on the custodies. Yeah, they're also a lot more blade focused as well. They're a lot more with the punchy and the slicey than the what am I even said, than the hammery, what am I even talking about? I just got real out of hand there. So, yeah, we're going to be, yeah.

Well, you think you're talking to a kindergartner because you're talking to me and I have the, I have the mental capacity of like a two-year-olds. So you're like, okay, we've got to really simplify this for the idiot, you know. So yeah, we're going to talk about Terminators and the various types of Terminator armor. and the different weapons they use, and some Terminator adjacent stuff, because there is a specific mark of armor that I, I frankly cannot wait to show you,

but I feel like we should build up to it a little bit. Okay, I do love Terminators. I mean, who in 40K fandom does not love a good, just giant hulking? Because they have, like, the special armor. Usually it looks a little bit cooler, a little bigger, has special weaponry, so I'm about it. I'm ready to learn about me. some termies. They are absolutely

like, it's the best armour. It just is. I love Terminators to the extent that I had a Strike Force Ultra in 7th edition, I think it was, which is just Terminators a Dreadnought and I think it was a Storm Raven as well. It's the best mark of armour you can have.

It kind of is not that dissimilar to power armour, but the main difference is that it kind of came from this need for exo armour so that you can have people go into like hazardous environments around things like plasma reactors, things that could withstand impacts from like if you're on the surface of a ship, for instance, performing maintenance,

could withstand the impact of space debris smacking into you, like microdebree. And it was a point where for a while there, the goal was to replace all power armor with Terminator armor. I was about to ask that. like, oh yeah, the goal is to make it more sturdy, more survival. I was like, why didn't they just make Termi armor for like everybody? Like, why have regular power armor when you can just make Terminator plate? That was something that they were aiming for, but then there was a whole heresy thing, and that plan went away fairly quickly, because Terminator armor is massively,

like, it's a lot heavier than standard power armor. It's a lot bulkier. It requires a huge amount of power and a lot of resources to build, given that if you hit, say, normal power armour with an anti-tank weapon, it will disintegrate power armour, whereas Terminator Army, you can fire a crack missile at it, and it won't destroy it, it won't penetrate the breastplate. And there's, there was reference I found, and I can't remember reading this bit, but it's been noted to, like, there is a reference of someone, wearing Terminator armor being stood on by a Titan. That's, that's silly.

That, I mean, even for Terminator Plate, you should not survive being stepped on by a Titan. That's, mm-mm, I don't like that. It's very, very, very over the top. Like, very, very over the top. It is 40K, so. Yeah, to be honest, I want to believe it, because that would make me love Terminators even more. and I already loved Terminator so that just makes them even better Shai said maybe it was just really soft ground

you know it was a really rainy day so it was actually mud so it just pushed him into the mud yeah he just sank yeah maybe that okay that wouldn't be as cool but I'm willing to accept that as a compromise to make it less silly and he had his helmet on so you know he just sank and sank and

yep that by the way is also one of the best Terminator models I mean they're all good but that one is slightly less bad in terms of the overall proportions, which is the only weakness, which we will get to, just because of the shape of Terminator Armour means that proportions look a bit off when you actually look at the models. Oh, yeah, yeah.

The thing is it's like peak space marine because it makes them incredibly hard to stop. They become like walking tanks. It's called Terminator Armour. The other name for it is tactical dreadnought armour. The idea being that you could have someone not quite as heavily armed and armoured as a dreadnought, but as close as you could possibly get

while still having them be... Yeah, dead and still being like relatively space marine-sized. You know, they're really big and bulky, which is one of the things that makes them so good for going through things like Spacehawks, when there's not really a risk of being flanked sending terminators onto spacehawks makes a lot of sense because you can effectively just wall off a corridor, march down it and kill everything in front of you, without there being too much risk of being attacked from the back or the sides.

So they don't just do things like boarding actions and clearing out of spacehawks. They are massively useful for frontal assaults and also they have a really, really helpful ability in that they have a teleport homer in each terminator. in each Terminator soon. So you can load up your terminators with either a pair of lightning claws or if you want extra protection, a Storm Shield and Thunderhammer, the Storm Shield has built in like field generators just to give it even more protection.

You can teleport a squad of Terminators right into the centre of an enemy force and take out the leadership by dumping a squad of nearly invulnerable elite warriors with weapons that can punch, carve, or just smash through armor, walls, vehicles, small mountains, you name it really. So Thunderhammer, a very cool weapon, but in a close second of those damn Thunderclaws. Like, is there anything cooler than just these massive crackling claws? Yeah, lightning claws are quality. They're so good.

They have a few different variations of stuff, so they have normal power fists. standard Terminator squads come with a PowerFist and a Storm Balter, and you can't give them other stuff, but that's kind of the general equipment that they have. They also have options for taking assault cannons and cyclone launches, so you can have a full-on missile launcher on top of one of your Terminators, or you can carry a full assault cannon into battle on his arm. I just have to say, Shy posted a picture of those... What is those? Ultramarine Termi's or I don't know.

Yeah. But the missile launcher on the back of that one dude is one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen. Like that is just so... Something about it is just so ridiculous looking. He's got a missile launcher packed on his back. It's like a compact titan. It looks so silly. It's great, though.

It's so good. Like, the fact that this armor can just... take that, it's so, it's so, like, chunky and strong and heavy that you can stick a missile launcher of that size on top of it, and it's all good. It can just take it. You can just do that. It's not a problem. It's, I want, I wonder what the recoil on that is. Like, when you fire that, like, are they just like, is the termi plate so just, like, sturdy? Every time I say sturdy, I think of the guys dance, like, who can get sturdier? Um, but, but. Oh, God. get sturdy

but I just is it so sturdy that like there's no recoil at all or does that like blow them backwards I don't you know what I have no I don't think missiles would have like recoil would they or would they?

They have to it's a miss it's it's like a how many is that 12 missiles launching at the same time from your back surely there's got to be some yeah I guess there's got to be some right it's not going to be as much

just like holding an assault cannon though? Because the way they're fired out is slightly different. There's going to be people who really, really like guns, like military history in the comments, probably in the live chat right now, going absolutely wild. Absolutely wild. Over this conversation. Also, Stormbolter is, is that basically just a semi-automatic bolter? I forget what the difference between the two is.

Storm bolters are basically two bolters strapped together, pretty much. It's not, it's like... I thought it was a faster firing bolter, so that's why it was a storm, because you're do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, you know. I mean, it technically is faster firing because it's got two barrels and to everything, so it fires double the amount of a, of a boulter. Right, right. But it's way heavier, and it causes more recoil than a standard boulter,

just because you are firing effectively two lots of, two lots at the same time. So it's one of those things that you see a lot on like, on like HQs and stuff, but generally speaking, standard troops don't tend to really carry stormbolters, but Terminators can just handle the recoil and fire one-handed. Because they got Termi plate. You can survive getting stepped on by a Titan. It's so good. So the overall, like, armament for this lot, it very, very,

varies depending on the job, but you've got, you have things like lightning claws, power fists, chain fists. A chain fist is basically a power fist with a chain attachment, which can rip through like bulkheads and armoured doors and vehicles. That one, admittedly, has always been a bit confusing to me. Sounds really cool. Is that just like you got chainsaws on the knuckles or something? It's on the underside of the fist, so that they kind of like carved.

through it. Oh, oh, oh, should I just post it a picture of it? That makes so much more sense now. Okay. There are some older chain fist designs that, like, the chaos ones especially are like the middle knuckles are the chain blade. That's what I was thinking. I was like, that sounds kind of boss. And like, I would imagine if you're fighting like the tyranids, uh, that would come in real hand to just br-hr-hr-hr-right through like a horde of tyrannids. I mean, chain weapons are badass enough as it is. Having one strapped to a power fist just makes it... It just makes it better.

It just flas out makes it better. Oh, could you activate the power fist and have all that crackly energy on the thing with the chainsaw and just... Well, that honestly is how I've... Like, my kind of personal head canon, I guess, is that that's how it works, because something that comes up a lot in the Horace Heresy books is Marine on Marine fighting, funnily enough,

because it's the heresy. But whenever they talk about like chainsword fighting, a lot of it talks about how when they actually fight against power armor with chainswords, it just rips the teeth out and they don't get any purchase. Like chainswords are really bad at fighting against armor because they have nothing to purchase into so they don't actually really cause that much damage unless you can get to like the soft joints at the legs and the elbows and the armpits and stuff. Yeah, you just ruin your chainsword. Yeah, so for the longest time I was like, well, if it's not good at fighting, if it's not good against armour, why does a chain fist work against like armoured bulkheads on starships, for instance?

The only thing that I could think is that the field around the power fist also goes around the chainsword, because otherwise it wouldn't do anything, you just lose all the teeth against the armoured door. but if that field did go through then that would make way more sense to me personally and would mean that that actually didn't completely contradict all the other stuff about how chainsawls versus armour is actually kind of nath well ships aren't made out of seramite either right I mean with like with bulkhead doors and stuff

they've got to be put in seramite and plaz steel and all of that in there as well surely If you want to have something that people can't get through, I'd have thought. I just assume that, like, you know, the space marine or termy armor was made of sterner stuff, you know, and it's like, oh, yeah, the teeth can't latch into it because it's legendary seramite. Whereas, like, I don't know, a bulkhead on some rogue trader's ship is just going to be made out of whatever. Although I guess if you're in the Imperium, the ship is probably going to be made out of some pretty high quality material. So I don't know. It's, it's 40K. I feel like that's something where we need like a niche, like a niche law expert.

Someone message Luton and go, what I was about to say, where's Loon? Put up the, put a, I was going to think of a bat sign for Luton. And I was like, oh yeah, put the L in the sky for Luton. And I was like, that actually seems kind of mean. Just for the one question about bulkheads. You'd be like, what are you doing? Don't ask me this. Leave me alone.

Luton, what are Imperial bulkheads made out of specifically? Yeah. Is it Saramite, Luton? Is it the same stuff as the power armor? Luton? Anyway. Just get like a blocked on Discord message. So the melee weapons, like they do also have access to things like

power axes and the like, there is actually quite a wide array of weapons that they can use. Chaos Terminators, for instance, have things like Power Malls. So pretty much anything that you see on a standard space marine, a Terminator can wield and generally is wielding it in one hand as opposed to two. But they also get the ability to carry a power fist and, say, an assault cannon, a heavy flamer. Basically any heavy version of a weapon, you can probably see. stick on a Cerminator and it can handle the recoil and the weight absolutely no problem. That makes sense. I mean, they're big Hulk and Termis. They should be able to. They should have a

little, you know, upper hand on the normal dudes. It just makes them more badass for me. Not only are they almost impossible to kill due to how heavily armoured they are. They're carrying weapons that other, like other factions might put on a tank and they're just walking into battle with them. just makes it even better. Even better for me. I want to see a Terminator just carrying around like the turret gun on a tank with both hands.

Like it's like a rocket launcher or something. I've got it, boys. Boom. You know, someone would make that. Someone make that immediately. In Santa's pictures, I need to see that.

I would do it myself, but I already have too many terminators. The cannon of a bane blade is just two-handed. Yeah. Oh, the recoilness thing kicks like a mule. guys. This is great. I like it. I like it.

So there's like a load of, there's always different marks of Terminator armor. Terminator armor is relatively rare and hard to come by. It's something that is, chapters only have limited access to it because a lot of the marks of Terminator armor that were found during the heresy just aren't available anymore.

They're not manufactured, they can't be, they can't be like the STLs can't be found again STCs can't be found again and so I said STL because I've been doing a lot of 3D printing that's just my brain malfunctioning ignore that

but like the ones that you see most often are the ones that Shai's been like putting images in for the most part the Iron Warriors one that's cataphyrata armor but the others are endometus armor and endometus armor has all got this very prominent thing

on one shoulder, which you can see on pretty much all the different pictures, which is something called the Crooks Terminatus. So, it's this really rare. I can't believe shy. I actually did it. And Luton answered. He had an answer.

Yeah. What in Biffam's basic bulkheads made of? This will be in a video I need an answer right now. And Luton says, Adamantium? two question marks. So actually Adamantium? I'd have to go look it up. And

I mean, ships are designed to literally ram other ships. Okay, but here's the thing, right? That doesn't answer. So where does adamantium rank in comparison to hardness of Saramite? Is that stronger than Saramite? Or not so strong

as Saramite? I tell you what, that's, I mean, shall I go back? Yeah, that's the Wolverine stuff. like the MCU isn't canon to 40K so I have no idea what that means. I love that that's the frame of reference. That's the Wolverine stuff. I mean, you're not wrong.

It is. He's got adamantium bones and claws. What do you want from me? I'm a dork. You're absolutely right. I just, I don't know why. I just wasn't expecting that to be part of the answer. Look, man, I'm a nerd.

That's my frame of reference. Adamantium is the Wolverine stuff. you're not wrong look I'm not taking it away from very strong I get it but so is saromite oh god what was I even talking about yeah that was it the

the croxterman artist so they see I love this this is one of those great examples to 40K going really heavily on like weird myth and religion so the symbol that you can see on the

especially the endometers pattern terminate drama oh that's so cool yeah that's really cool It's badass. Each one of those, in theory, in theory, because I don't think actually realistically this is actually possible. Each one of those symbols has a little piece of the emperor's own armour that he was wearing when he was defeated, or like when he defeated Horus at the end of the siege of terror. So the Terminator armour has like a little bit. piece of the emperor's own armor that kind of grants it additional protection and, like,

blessings. And the thing is, there's a lot of space marine chapters. There's a lot of space marines. There's a lot of Terminator armor. There's also every single Grey Knight Terminator armor has a shard of this armor as well, and they have a lot of Terminator armor comparatively the Grey Nights. So for there to be enough of the Emperor's armor, it must be the tiniest little sliver of metal in each one. Yeah, I was going to say maybe like that outer ring of gold, I could see those pieces being like just little melted down pieces of the Emperor's because Emperor was huge and his armor was massive. So like just for that little ring, that outer ring to be just like

little melted down pieces of the emperor's armor. I could see that there being enough armor to do that anyway. It's like a mythology thing, isn't it? The chances of it actually being true in universe are incredibly slim because the amount of Terminator armor that there is would suggest that there is just

loads and loads and loads of his armor to go around. But there can't be that much because it was only one suit and it was only the one he was wearing when he defeated Horace. But it just there's like a mythology to it that makes the Terminator Armour, which was already super, super rare, super special, incredibly hard to replace.

Makes it even more special, yeah. I guess that means like losing a termie is even more devastating because you've kind of sort of, you've lost one of the remaining pieces of the emperor too. I mean, it's not that big of a deal because it's just a shard, but still, it's like now a piece of the emperor is gone. And it's like, oh, well, that's kind of depressing. Yeah, if you lose a Terminator, there is a distinct effort from most chapters to try and either get the armor or the crooks back. Like, they will actively try and retrieve it, even if things are going really bad for them, because it's a massively important relic, and it has to be brought back as much as possible. Oh, yeah, definitely. And not necessarily just for the little piece of the emperor, but it's just you can't make more of them, right?

because the STC is gone. The endometous armor, you can make more endometous, which is like the most popular mark of armor, but it's incredibly slow. There's only like a few four tools that can make it. It's also incredibly hard to make. It's very resource intensive to make.

So it's like super limited in how many can actually be built. And even then, if a chapter receives like a new suit of Terminator armor, the chances are it's not new. It's like, repaired, reconditioned bits of multiple other Terminator armour that have been put together to make one whole suit as opposed to like, it'll be just be like, oh well, we had a gauntlet that worked off one, we've got two shoulders from another one, we've got a chest plate from another, and just cobbling all of it together into one functional suit, which still ends up being super rare and super important because of how difficult to come by it is. Wow, so the forge rules that can make these must be like super heavily guarded. One of them is Mars, so.

Oh, well, it's pretty important. Mars is pretty important. Yeah, I guess, I guess, okay, sure. Yeah, that's a big one. That's a big one. Oh, hey, look, we have an update on the adamantium situation. Shy-ass Luton is adamantium stronger than Ceramite? Luton said it's different. It's a metal. Ceramite is seramite. Seramite is actually a composite of adamantium in these special ceramic layers. The idea is to make both insanely strong and heat-resistant, i.e. to plasma and heat weapons. And Shia's response was, has anyone ever told you you're a nerd.

Damn, he got on that quick. Who-wee! I also like the It's Basic stuff. I mean... For you. I'd say I feel called out, but I don't really. I don't know how he remembers half of this, to be honest. So they're just both insanely strong. I don't know. We have, I don't, I'm still not conclusive on which one is stronger, but, ah, who cares?

Look, we did the investigation. We got all the information we could. You make a decision. Yeah. You do, do a poll or something. See what happens. Put a poll in chat, in the live chat. So we talked a little bit about like deployment and stuff and like them being used in,

in like Spacehawks is, when I say common, as common as boarding Spacehawks is. And being able to teleport. If you're teleporting in, then the chances are you're going to be doing something that is relatively close combat oriented. They can also be deployed by being shoved into a Land Raider or a Spartan

and delivered to the front lines that way. So they can fit in some vehicles. You can't get them in rhinos, funnily enough, because there's just not enough space. They're too big. They're just a bit too chunky. Bit too chunky to get in there. To be fair, does a Terminator really need to be in a Rhino?

Like, being in the Terminator plate is probably more protection than being in a rhino. I think it probably is. It's just the speed of them. They lack a bit of maneuverability compared to Power Armor. Termines are kind of slow. That's fair. Yeah. It's actually one of the reasons why the plan to basically equip all Space Marines with Power

armor came to a halt. When it came to the Horace heresy, one of the things that was discovered in terms of the weaknesses for Terminator armour is the fact that a space marine in power armor, they're not as strong technically, they're not as well-armored, they also can't carry as heavy-gauge weapons as easily or as many, but they're more maneuverable. So if you have a Terminator with like two lightning claws and there is a space marine in power armor with a with a power sword then a good space marine and power armor can run rings around a terminator because they're just that much more maneuverable yeah the terminator will like never hit him because he's too slow and the the power armor can just be like death by a thousand

cuts where it's like eventually I am going to wear you down because you can't hit me yeah they're they're like vulnerable to being flanked and and like ganged up on and it was at that point it was like okay, these are super expensive to make, they have massive power requirements, they require a lot of support, and we've just discovered that when it comes to Space Marine versus Space Marine, if you get a few lads in Power Armor,

they can take one of these down because they're just that much quicker and more maneuverable. So that's where the plan to basically stick every Marine into Terminator armor, which is a badass plan, by the way, didn't really make it beyond that point because it wasn't feasible

with the war they were currently having. Probably better just have a couple of them, you know, to sort of bolster up the regular space marines, yeah. Yeah. Have a nice even mix. Definitely. I actually use them for specific things instead of throwing them at literally every single problem, which is cool, but also maybe not feasible in the long run.

Yeah, maybe not. So we've talked about the kind of Terminator as a whole, and Indomitus being the most popular form of armour, it's the one that was most manufactured during the Horus Heresy, and it's the one that is still the most popular, or at least is the one that's like most numerous. You can find it more easily, and chapters have more of it,

because it was still being produced during the Horace heresy and was being handed out left, right and center. There are other patterns of Terminator armour, and the one that Scheis has put in is the Tartarus pattern Terminator Armour. Ooh, I like that, actually. I don't know if it's because it looks a little less bulky or

I think the other Terminator plates, I think the helmets look really stupid to me. Like, there's just something about them that I don't like. And I'm sure that's going to be one of those hot takes that I get roasted for. But I don't like the way those, like, helmets look. They almost remind me of, like,

I almost want to say, like, an elephant without its tusks or without, like, that long. It's just, I don't know. Something about it bugs me. These look really cool. I like these. They look more like just bulky space marines. they're a they're kind of like they're a bit like

contemptor shaped in a way they look a bit like the contemptor Dreadnought just the proportions the kind of shape of the chest and stuff with the way the armor bulks out over the top of the head I mean Terminate yeah Chaos Terminators

but they look badass with it yeah I know that the Chaos ones have tusks because the Night Lord's trilogy we read that was like a big thing with the termies is they got those big old tusks, you know. But something about that helmet design, I was bugged me. I never liked it. Even with the tusks? Yeah, I was never a big fan of it.

I think that's why I like the one that was just posted so much better because they just, I don't know. I like the helmet more. It is also like more advanced, the tartarus pattern. I keep wanting to say tactical dreadnall armor. Yeah, I keep wanting to say dreadnought too. I keep wanting to say dreadnought, but it's like, no, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that. Terminator is so much easier, but tactical dreadnought armor sounds cooler.

But it feels like having the word count in an essay doing it the other way. Make the period point one times bigger. Yeah. But like the tartarus Terminator armor is more advanced than the endometheus because it has like better mobility. So it's that bit faster, that bit more maneuverable. But it's just as durable as the endometheus armor. is. So it's just flat out

better than the one that is like, that's lasted the longest. Because it also suffered a lot of, like, a lot of it was lost during the Horace heresy. It was used a lot during like the last year's the Great

Crusade and during the Horace heresy. But by the time we get to where we are in the story now, like there is hardly any Tartarus armor left. It's pretty much all been lost or destroyed. I was going to say the Tartarus armor sounds like the best of both worlds.

So, like, if you were going to outfit every space marine with termy armor, seems like that's the way to go. Yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely just that bit better, like, balanced, I guess, than the endometheus stuff just because of it being that much more maneuverable. It doesn't have quite as much in the way of weaknesses. is the one of the one of my favourite marks is the catafracti armour which is like

the first lot of Terminator armour that was properly distributed during the Great Crusade and that is the opposite of the Tartarus armour it is incredibly slow it's super chunky it has multiple like

yeah like layered pardrons to be fair it also offered more like more protection than the tartarist stuff, because it has more armor plating, and it has built-in shield generators in the shoulders. Oh, wow.

Also, man, the mini ruined the image for me, because I mean, like the mini is still bulky, but that first picture shy posted of the, what are those custodies? It does look like those are custodies. That, like, they're so chunky and, like, so, like, middle-housy. heavy, it's hilarious, but then, like, the mini looks very normal. Very cool. The mini looks a lot cooler, actually, but the custodies one looks like such a meme. I kind of love that. They are so, they've got, like, it's just, the waist is so wide on the picture. Yeah, but the mini is very cool. Like, I think aesthetically, this one actually is the coolest one so far. Just aesthetically,

anyway. Yeah, it's got like a really, it's kind of got like a primitive look for me. Like there's more rivets and stuff and the arm is really segmented and the fact that you've got those, oh, I always forget what they're called, like the kind of, is it,

the tarragies? The straps hanging down that are protecting some of the more weak areas of the armor. I really love that look. I really like it. It has like an almost medieval night look. right?

Yes. And I think that's probably where like the cool aesthetic is coming from is because it looks like a really cool, like, night from medieval times. Also a great entertainment. I used to go there for my birthday, like every year, but then I turned 12. It sounds like it's time to go back, to be honest. Honestly, I would love to go back to medieval times and see what it's like as an adult now. You know, eating the chicken with your hands, no utensil.

drinking the soup having, you know, I'd be down. I'd be down to go to medieval times. Look, we can't get too far into chicken conversations, because I got slammed last time, so I'm still steering clear of any mention of chicken. That is the, that's Red Butcher. So that is the world eaters version of Cataphytafracti armor. Oh, that's so dope. Which is badass. One of the legions that uses a lot of it is Deathguard. Deathguard love Catapracte. They still have, like, Like, when you look at their current model range, all of their special Terminators pretty much are based off the cataphyracte armor. Nice.

I didn't know that. It's badass. It's great armor. Yeah, I like it quite a bit. Like I said, aesthetically, that's the one. They have a scythe too? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah.

I'm such an edge lord. Anytime I see a scythe, I'm like, oh, yeah, peak. It's so cool, because, you know. We've all got a little edge in us. I mean, it's true, they are. They're awesome. It kind of looks like the, in Iron Man 1, when he makes the Iron Man suit out of scraps, that's kind of what it looks like, and I kind of love that sort of ramshamble metalwork look.

It does actually, yeah, it has a lot of that going on. I really like the extra reinforcement studs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. that are on the shins and the shoulders as well. They look really good. You have like those big sort of like bolts that are keeping the the puldrons on. Oh, those are very cool.

Yeah, that's great armor. I love it. And having done a quick... It would be easy to paint, too. That'd be so easy to paint. Just paint it all metallic and then just like go crazy with the null in the oil.

Streaking grime the hell out of it. Just cover it and grime from top to bottom. Yeah, and then you get some... some of that, I forget what the rust dry brushing stuff is, just dry brush a little bit of that on and then just null and oil the hell out of it. Easy to paint.

Says the person that doesn't paint anymore. It sounds like you're setting yourself up here for a nice weekend of painting some Terminators. Man, I haven't wanted to actively paint in like over a year. So, I just like hearing about the lore, all right? That's fair. I mean, painting takes time. It does, it does. I figure if there's ever, like, a really cool mini that I want, I'll just buy it and just, like, commission one of those pro painters to do it for me.

Like, I'm thinking about doing that for VashTor, because, oh, baby. Anyway, go ahead. I mean, that's the model to do it. That is definitely the model to do it. And how? So we have a couple of variations as well that are, like, aren't. be specific. So the custodies have got their own versions of Terminator Armour, which is the Aquilon pattern Terminator Armour,

and the Alarice pattern Terminator Armour. And the Aquilon is basically cataphracti, but way better, because it's custodies. So, of course, custodies get everything is fancier. That is so much cooler. Whoa. Yeah. Wow.

They get like a better. They get better power capacity. They've got a better link to the armour itself. So because it's power armour, well, because it's like a form of power armour kind of, it plugs into the black carapace so that they can interact with the muscle fibres and the armour and it makes it easier to move for them. The custodies have got like better ones because, of course they have. And they've got that cool red mane.

They really do. It's a great looking bit of armour. It looks fantastic. Oh, man, those are so cool. What is that gun? I believe those are Infernes firepikes. Oh, that's cool. So really harsh Flamer-style weapons.

What a name, the Infernes Firepike? Yep. And it shoots fire, you say. Yeah. No. Man, those are cool. Oh, I love that. They are properly amazing.

love that armor. Magnus would be so proud of that Maine. Oh my God. He's just jealous. He's like, Mike's not, didn't get anything like that. Oh man, that should be my guys. Well, it's too late for that, Magnus. You really messed things up on that front, didn't you?

Yeah, he got dusted. There's also the Alaris pattern armor that custodians get as well, which I like, but I don't think it's quite as cool as the aquilon that's up there now. Like, it, it, it is cool. It is also a lot more. Oh, it's very bulky, isn't it? Yeah, it's kind of, it makes me think of, like, bulkier

catafracty armor. I think... You know what that picture reminds, have you ever seen the fifth element? Yes. It reminds me of those big, bulky, fat alien dudes that have the key to all the elements? It reminds me of them. Okay, you know what? Keep that in mind. We're just going to quickly slam through two other things, and I want you to keep thinking about the bulky aliens, okay? In the fifth element? Okay, okay, okay. Don't let, don't let that thought go. We'll come back to that in a minute, but it gets convoluted, so we're going to do the ones that are relatively simple. Okay, okay. There is also Gorgon Terminator armor, Iron Hand specific, where, where they put a conversion field in it

so that when the terminators were struck by projectiles like electromagnetic or kinetic energy, it turned it into like a burst of blinding light to blind, disorient, and in some cases wound nearby enemies. Oh, that's why it's called the Gorgon, because it's like the blind... Oh, that's cool. I like that.

It's really cool. It's really cool. I can't even tell what's going. going on with this? That's, that is cool, though. What is, what's going on with the helmet? I mean, it's iron hands. They've got all sorts of enhancements and extra lenses built in, and there is a downside. There's a downside to this armor that meant that it never really, I mean, I don't think any other legions even tried to use it. I couldn't find anything that suggested that they did. There was a downside, which is that there's a lot of heat generated by this

stuff, and also electrochemical fallout is what I wrote down as the specific phrase, which meant that just for the person to use it, they had to undergo like bionic surgery

because if they didn't, the armor just killed them. Oh, like slowly over time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that picture Shy just posted is a much better angle of it. Yeah. That actually is very dope.

now that I can like properly see everything, that it is very cool. But yeah, I can see how that would absolutely annihilate the user if they didn't have some sort of, you know, special genetic doodads and whatnots. Yep, it's not, it's not for everyone. It's fine for the iron hands because they love chopping bits off and replacing them with biotics anyway. But even then, you had to kind of volunteer to be put into one of these things because of how horrifically dangerous it was to just you as a living being, which I love it because of that. Because once again, they've taken the hardcore thing and they've made it even more hardcore.

Oh, yeah. Who, we, that's, that's cool, though. I like it. I like it. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to use it, but it looks great. But it is good. Yeah. So, again, don't forget, don't forget the eighth element, alien. Got it, got it, got it. Just before we get onto that, there's also Aegis pattern Terminator armour, which is the Grey Knight stuff that they use. So it's kind of, it's not that dissimilar to just your standard endometous armour, like the most kind of popular, well-known Terminator armour. But it's way more complicated because it's Terminator armour that has been inscribed with like prayers and war. against chaos, it's psychically charged as well, so that it provides resistances. It's really,

really cool. It looks like tech armor. It looks like you took the, that other, I forget what all the plates are called, but the one design that I didn't like, and you made it like cyber futuristic looking. I don't hate that. I like that. It looks like cyber armor. Yeah, it's, it's really cool. It's Space armour, yeah, it's very cool. I like that a lot. It's super, I love how super specialised it is. Because Grey Knights being primarily fighting chaos demons and the like, the whole thing is covered in ruins and wards and kind of psychic protection, and even the helmets that they have are specially designed to provide more protection

than you get out of standard endometheus armor. It's great. I love it so much. Is that a javelin? they're using or a spear or I guess a javelin is just a spear that you throw or a lance I believe that's a force halberd. I might be getting the name wrong.

I didn't realize force halberds were a thing. Cool. Yeah, it's all, Grey Knights, it's all mad psychic. Mad psychic stuff. It's great. Oh, that's cool. I like that.

Okay. Okay, here's where things get complicated. All right. That alien. Bad alien. In 5th Guard, right? Yes. Okay.

This is where it gets a little bit complicated. I'm ready. So, there is a mark of armor that a lot of people call the Saturnine pattern Terminator or Tactical Dreadnall armor. Saturnine? All right. Exactly like the aliens from Fifth Element. Oh, let's see it.

Almost exactly. Almost exactly. But pretty damn close. That's pretty close. mistaken, that's pretty close. Although they're not as... I don't know. I tend to think that other one might look

a little bit closer. It's the giant shoulders that... Yeah, they're two top-heavy. They're just like these... Super, super top-heavy. Now, if they were more bottom-heavy, that'd be pretty spot on.

Yeah, they're like... They look like the bottom half is like properly proportioned compared to the Fifth Element ones, which kind of, it's like if you look from the chest up, super fifth element, but then from the waist down, not, it's like a weird mix. Yeah.

God damn video. Yeah, I just clicked on, I wasn't expecting it to be that loud. Yeah, yeah, that's the experience I had when Chai said to me the other day. Yep, yep. So this is where it gets a little bit complicated and convoluted. I don't love the way these look at. This looks like it was a, it's a meme or something. It's super, super, super.

This is a model that was only made for the first edition of Warhammer 40K. Okay, so this doesn't exist anymore. Okay. Yeah. But it's kind of, this is one of those things that is kind of interesting because people refer to this as the Saturnine Terminator armor. Except at no point anywhere, his Games Workshop labeled it as that. Oh. So nobody ever called it?

Yeah. It's not called that, or at least it's not supposed to be called that. It's not really actually been named as any specific pattern. So that picture where it's a space marine in Terminator armor, that's all it was called. Oh, so how did, why did people start calling it the Saturnine? I have no idea. I'm thinking, the only thing I can think is that at some point, someone... Luton!

Someone like got the name Saturnine, they saw that, they decided that because they were was no image of saturnine armor that that must be what that is and it's somehow spread and it's now just become kind of for a lot of people it's just the accepted term for that type of armor is saturnine terminator armor except it's never been labeled as that by games workshop it's one those really interesting things where you know someone has said something however long ago and it's now just become the accepted term but it doesn't have that phenomenon where you think something was like that, but it's not actually, what's the... I don't remember what it is.

I know what you mean, and I can't remember what it is either. I can't remember what it's called. It's going to really bug me. Yeah, and everybody in chat's like, oh, it's this, duh, stupid. But it's, it's, I don't know, I like, I like the overall idea of it. I'd love to see an updated version of it. And that pattern of Terminator Armour, whatever it's actually called, I mean, on the model itself, it just says the word X,

on the bit of the bottom so this was one that you had to slot into the base. It was a white metal model. Metal models, yikes. So, I don't know, I always end up thinking of it as just Exo Terminator Armour, but

that's not what it's called either because they haven't labeled it as that. It's just, that's what it says on the, on the, like, the base of the model. It gets more confusing just because they have used satinine armor as a mark of Terminator armor, but we don't know what it looks like or have any information other than it being an equivalent to endometheus and Tartarus. So it's like, it's an equivalent to those, but we don't know what it looks like which lesions used it, how long it was in circulation for, whether there's any of it left. But they did then use saturnine void armor for a totally different army. So there's an army called, yeah, there's an army called the Soul

Ouxilia for Horace Heresy, and the armour that they wear is saturnine void armour, which also, depending on where you're looking stuff up, is called solar pattern void armour. So at this point, I have no idea what this particular mark is called. I don't know what it's called. I don't know whether it has any special features. All I know is that it was a thing for like part of first edition. I think it was only in production. for, I think it might have been less than a year. And it is constantly named as Saturnine or Mark I armor, but it's never been labeled that ever,

which just makes it super fascinating how, like, information just gets weird. It's the Angy-Face Terminator armor. It is. It's properly... Also, what is that gun? What is that gun it's carrying? I think it's meant to be a stormbolt.

but it's got like three clips or something. I was gonna say it has a clip coming out the top, unless that's just one big clip and it's like half empty, but I don't think that's what that is. One out of the top, one out of the bottom, one out of the side. That way you never run out of armor, but still only two, still only two barrels, so I don't know, I don't know how that works. That is such a strange looking gun and such strange looking armor, like, oh man.

Something that I didn't know until I was doing a bit of research for this recording, And actually, we mentioned Lutin earlier. I already knew that this wasn't actually satinine armor, that the name has kind of been attached out of nowhere, and it's really hard to work out where that happened. And I kind of already knew that it had been mislabeled, because for so long I've kept thinking of it as Exo Terminator armor, even though it wasn't called that either.

So in many ways, I'm part of the problem. What I didn't know is that that mark of armor is directly referenced in a Horace Heresy short story Oh So in In one of the Kind of like short story

Compilations that they did There was There was a direct reference To this armour Where it talks about I believe there's some iron hands Show up and see Salamander's Terminator armour

That is described exactly Like this kind of egg-shouldered pattern armor from years and years ago. So even then, the mark of armour that it is is never named, but it does exist in the Horace heresy because the Ironhands saw that the Salamanders had some and that Vulcan had made it or designed it himself. So it does exist in the law, in the canon,

but we still don't know what it's called. Can we all collectively start referring to it as the Humpty Dumpty Terminator Plate? because it looks like a cracked egg. I vote yes on that. And if we could have an artist draw this sitting on a wall, just kind of tipping over a little bit with a top pad on, that'd be great.

That would be perfect. Just primo. If you artists out there can do you. We got Abby in his morning wear and his fuzzy slippers. He could get the Saturnine E, egg termie plates sitting on a wall, almost having a great fall. That'd be great. That would be quality. It needs to be done. Surely. Yes. Surely someone will make it happen. There are, there are like variations primark, like versions and special versions of Terminatorama.

So, I mean, the best one, I mean the best one clearly is, I can never pronounce his name. Purty of the Iron Warriors. He has the best. I see I always used to say Peturobo and then I got told off but then I also got told off and pronouncing it the other way so I just don't bother now Yeah I mean

He does have that really cool backpack Doesn't he? So defeatist Yeah His is the best Ferris I like Ferris's armor His backpack with all the cool stuff

And the plasma cutter And all the various Gribbly bits Oh I got Ferris And what's his face mixed Oh you didn't commit The Cardinal Silled up

I committed the cardinal sin. I did. I did. I did it. I'm sorry. Everybody, please. Abadavis, you can't. I'm just a little guy.

It's just a little guy. I'm just a little guy. Also, how do you not like Abadon's plate? Come on. That's the coolest, right? Come on. And Horace, I mean, it's the most demonically corrupted at least. Horace has got that giant, friggin' wolf pelt somehow covering the top of his Terminator plate.

I mean, come on. I reckon of like the non-primark... I mean, if you look at Avedon and then you look at Calgar, Abidon's armour's cooler. It just is. Oh, yeah. It's just way cooler. Absolutely.

In a way, I'd say Calgar's is maybe a bit more special because it's still Terminator armour, but it's Primaris adapted, which does make it kind of cool. But it's, yeah, I still prefer. So he's got the special updated Primaris Terminator plate. Yeah, which no one else has got access to, which in some way spoils it. Of course the Ultramarine has that.

Why wouldn't he? You've got to give him all the best stuff. That's how it works. You got to, yeah. God, that's how Ultramarines work. You should know this by now. I know, I know. I'm softening up to the Ultramar Marines.

the more I read about their tragic plight of most of their named characters. I'm warming up to them. Still don't love them, but, you know, I'm... I actually don't mind them. I'm less fire and brimstone about them. Yeah. I think 40K ultramarines are a bit boring,

but Horace Heresy Ultramarines are actually kind of cool. I like them. Now, we do have an adjacent suit of armor. It's not Terminator armor, but it is still a walking tank and it has the added bonus of you can get into it whilst wearing your power armour wow

okay that sounds you're thinking it sounds pretty cool right you're thinking that actually sounds kind of badass yeah it probably looks really stupid doesn't it oh you you have no idea we're talking about centurion armour and I feel like I've heard of Centurion armor before You will have heard of it

What the hell is that? Oh, it's worth it I'm so happy What is that? Oh no, it's terrible Oh no That's tiny little head He's just a little guy in big armor

Oh no It's so sad because like every Like, the armor itself looks so... It looks like a Gundam. And then it's just got this dopey little head. What is... Why? The model is technically worse than the art,

which is saying something. Oh, no. Because it's so static and... Oh, gosh, no. Oh, oh, no. It's... Oh, no. We poor Space Marine in your Space Marine.

I'm so happy. Oh. no. Also, are these things meant to like excavate and dig stuff because they've got that like driller claw thing on them? So, so effectively it is exactly what it looks like. It is a bigger set of armor that you get into whilst wearing your armor and the, and you've got a close combat uh, variants, assault centurions that have got a siege drill on each arm. And, and, and, you've got a close combat, uh, And then you've got devastated centurions that have got a big gun on each arm. Oh, man.

That one, the one in the top left and the top right, or I guess it's just the ones in the top of that picture, those look okay. They're not as bad, right? Yeah, because I think when you have the red helmet, it really accentuates just how out of proportion everything is. and when it's the blue helmet everything kind of just flows together very nice with the tiny little head oh no

just oh no but like the armor with that like if you just don't look at the head it's very cool like Gundam armor and I like the aesthetic I just don't like the the tiny head

yeah the tiny head in the pose that's where I heard centurion armor Oh, that does steal a set of that at the end of Brutal Cunning. And I think at the time we couldn't figure out what the hell's centurion armor was. Yep. Yeah, that's right. It's, I mean, I love the concept of it.

And it's kind of like, okay, we've already got space marines who are nearly as hardy as dreadnoughts without having to be dreadnoughts in the form of Terminators, given that it's tactical dreadnought armor. But then for some reason, games workshop were like, Okay, but what if we had space marines that were like dreadnoughts? And everyone else went, but we already have those. We already have Terminators. What is this?

And what it is is they decided to put in pilotable suits with just the worst layout for weapons that I think is possible to have on something of this size. Yeah. Yeah, it's... In theory, it's cool. But the execution isn't cool. Yeah, in theory it's very cool. Like that, like some of these pictures look really dope. And like the idea of the centurion plate is like I'm starting to warm up to it the more art I see of it.

But then I just look at the mini again and it's just like, oh. Yeah. The little tiny red head. It's just like, oh, no. It's almost there too. It's so close. It is. It's so close.

Ah, that hurts. It hurts. close that is the greatness. Oh, it's one of my favorite things showing people Centura in armor if they've never heard of it. Or like, haven't seen it before. Yeah. There's so many mixed emotions, and it always used to go pretty much how it's gone with you. So many mixed emotions. So, ah, I want to love it. Why do you do this

G-dub? Change it now. Make it look cool. Give it a V-fin. I do like, bless the artist, trying to, try and real. hard to make these dumbass outfits look cool. They have tried. Make it an enclosed canopy. Look, we're getting really into the weeds on how we're in the century armor. So there's a couple,

there's two more kind of Terminator adjacent armour types which are from other races. So the orcs have got mega armor. Which is probably as close as they're going to get to Terminator armor.

It is effectively it is effectively a ton of armour plating with a bunch of pistons and engines strapped onto it because orcs want something that is as tough as Terminator armour and it does work they have power claws they have things like combi weapons or

or multiple shooters attached to the armour but it is also orcish so it's incredibly primitive it's uh it's it can withstand a lot of punishment you can shoot an orc in megar armour, usually a knob in mega armour, and they will be able to withstand a lot of fire before they get destroyed, but they are fairly slow and really quite ramshackle.

Oh, Shai wants me to read some. It's got the teeth, it's got the loot, it's got the dacca, and it's got this year. Mega armor. That's why what I says goes around here you're right grots. Try me any time you're feeling like a beating. That was

excellently narrated. There's some mega armor. Is that what does, no, Gascold doesn't wear mega armor, does he? Gaskell does. His is just extremely extremely customized and way better.

I was going to say it's so big and Gaskell is just so larger than life, I was like, is that mega armor? I was like, it looks similar to what he wears, but I wasn't sure if Gaskell had something like. His is like, his is basically better mega armor than everyone else's, yeah. It's still mega armor, though. It's just a lot, a lot more, I'd say like artfully made. Like, it, it looks like the panels have been shaped and kind of beaten to be the right sort of proportion and the right size and, When you compare his armor to most other examples of Mega Armor,

like he has curves on his. Most Mega Armour doesn't have that. Oh, he's curvy. He's probably curvy. That sounds like a new poster show. We need curvy Gasco. Oh my God. Oh, no.

Mm-hmm. Oh, I'm thinking about it now, and I hate it. Like, I actually hate it. Stupid sexy Gaskell. Kirby Gasco But in the meantime, don't forget to buy the Slanesh Femboy poster If they'll be still there All over my Twitter the second it shows up

Because people directly just send me the posters now They're just like, look at this And I'm like, I know, stop Don't you guys know that's how we pay Kiriath We just send him a poster That's how we get him here He's like, oh, I need a new poster Give me more posters.

Please. There's still a bear patch on one wall. Okay. We have one more terminator-esque bit of armor left. And it's the iron-hear hearth guard from the leagues of Votan. The iron, what?

The iron here. Ian higher. Look, you know what? You read that and then you tell me what you reckon that should be. because I'm doing my best here. I'm struggling to stay aflox. I would go with Ein here.

Ein here, yeah? Well, just because I recently just finished playing Godavur-R-Ragnar-Ragnar and there's the Ein-Har. I guess Ein-Har? Ein-Har? It's tricky. I mean, their entire goddamn army is full of stuff that I can't pronounce. I would say I'm here because like GW's always kind of sort of

taking inspiration from other stuff. So it wouldn't surprise me if they're not. They're like, well, we can't directly rip off the Einhar. So... It's just Hathgard. Let's just say Hathgod. So they have a kind of Terminator equivalent in the form of their Exo armor, which again is got some chunkier, more powerful weapons. The Exo armor itself is... It's still power armor, but it's capable of shrugging off like anti-tank weapons, much like Terminators are.

and it provides like a boost to strength and endurance and it's very much like the leagues of Votan equivalent given that their regular troops are I think they're like relatively more lightly armored than things like Space Marines so this is their like Terminator equivalent and the big issue with the leagues of Votan

is the fact that they did I mean they did Centurians better than we got some churions. It looks like the big issue is considering they were derived from the squats, looks like that armor is kind of not doing too many squats. Like those glutes are weak. He's got, dude. Yeah, he definitely needs to put some more work in, right?

Oh, yeah. You got to do the squats, man. You got to do your squats. I do love this separate cheek armor, though. How incredibly customized and personalized to your armor that you have separate armor plates for each cheek. For each butt cheek, yeah. That's that's...

That's craftsmanship right there. Next level customization. It's weird. Like, after the conversation we just had about the tiny heads on big armor, like, you would think that I would also hate these because they kind of have that same big armor, tiny head. But I actually kind of love these. These look kind of great.

The proportions are just better overall, I think. I think you're right. Yeah, and it doesn't have like the dorky helmeted head that's just kind of too tiny. Like you can see that it's a dude in there, I guess. So it doesn't quite have that same goofy look. And yeah, the arm proportion to body proportion to leg proportions better too. So yeah, it's actually, it's a good look. I like it.

They also have these Brock Eye Thunderkin, which are the ones in the like other exosuits. It's a bit, it's like they have the exo armor, which is the Terminator. equivalent and then they got the exosuits which are kind of like the centurions where they step into this matrix uh was it matrix revolutions where they had the big the big mech suits like a smaller smaller uh squat equivalent of those carrying heavy weapons round they look so much better like they flat out did it better yeah yeah god this makes me more bitter about the centurions because it's so close. It's so close. Also, I remember talking about this when the Leagues of Oton first came out, and I think Bricky showed me this model. What's that on its gauntlet? Is that like a,

is that a gun gauntlet? Because it's carrying the not mjolnier in the one hand. And what's that on its? It's very clearly not milton. Yeah, it's definitely not. So the other hand has got a shield-mounted combi-bolter. Ah, okay. I was kind of hoping it was like a... Oh, what do I want to say? Anime has like those gauntlets that have like a piston in it, so it launches the fist at like super heavy,

like it's a big hammer that just... Or like a shotgun or something. Anyway, it's cool, whatever it is. honestly, but you know, I mean a bolter mounted into a shield I'll take that. That's also pretty cool. Yeah, that old squat version is just the B's knees. That's the best thing we've seen all day shy.

It's so good. Thank you for that. So dated and so good. Speaking of Humpty Dumpty. Yeah. He's just waiting for a great fall. And you can see how dated it is because like look at that checkerboard. I also have never noticed before,

but on that model, because of the necklace kind of detail that they've got, it looks like it's got bright red nipples. And I... Don't like the fact that I've seen that now because that's it. That's it.

That's all I'm going to see. He was having a little too much fun in his... Yeah, that's official art. So good. So old, but it's so good. So old. Oof. I mean,

it just shows they've come a... Long way. When did 40K first come out? What has it been like 30 years or something since it first came out? More? I can't remember the release date of first edition, but it's been a long,

long time. A long time. Shai says the Einharth guard needs the Einhard Nipple card. I mean, is that the next poster then? Surely that's going to be. mean an egg with giant red nipples is what you want as a poster? Look, someone will buy it.

You heard him, Shai. You know full well. You know full well. You heard him. He wants a big egg with giant red nipples that all have clamps on them. So it is what it is. So what we got any more or is that our last thing? That's our last Terminator-esque thing. Admittedly, some of them are not exactly Terminator armor. Pretty close. Like you said, adjacent. Pretty close. Anyway, I guess that's it.

This episode has gone a little long, but that's okay. We're not editing it. That happens every time, I'm sure. I'm sorry. It's okay. We don't have to edit it. That's for future shy to worry about, so it's, it's been a good time. We learned about our favorite termies and their termi adjacent, and Kirioth filled in for Brickie.

I think Bricky I'll be back next time, probably, unless he gets sick again or something catastrophic happens, and then we'll just, give Kiryoth another poster and bring him on back. But Kiryoth, thank you for being here again. It's always a blast. Shout yourself out. Where can people find you if they didn't previously already know about you? I also have a channel, which is Kiryath TV, and you can mostly, I mean at this point you can mostly expect just absolute nonsense. I don't know what's happened to my ability to record videos, but most of them have become just 10 minutes worth of just meta jokes. and I don't know why, but that's what you should expect, and I apologize in advance. I love it. I love it.

But yeah, that's it. So, support us at patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Twitter is at... I don't know what the actual app for Twitter is, but I'm sure Shile posted somewhere. Whatever, you know where to find us. That's the episode. Bye.