Adeptus Ridiculous - The Death Korps of Krieg | Into the Grimdark

Episode Date: November 27, 2020

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Welcome everyone to the first episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous. I'm D.K., and I know literally nothing about Warhammer lore. I know a few little bits and scattered pieces, but by and large, I am an ignorant baby child. So, this podcast is going to be about me learning about Warhammer lore from an expert, Bricky. Hello, Bricky. Hello, expert, not quite. Very well versed in the lore, somewhat, yeah. Now, saying that you know absolutely nothing about Warhammer lore,

myself can say that I know a pretty decent amount of Warhammer lore, but my job here is not necessarily to be the one and all person for your Warhammer information. It's so I can tell you, hey, look at this stupid, stupid thing. And you can be like, why is that thing so stupid? I can be like, because it's Warhammer. Fair enough. And there's so many crazy things about Warhammer. Like the bits and pieces I know are just insanity. It's a crazy world. And I need help, Brickie. I can certainly provide help Because even though everything is as ridiculous as it is Naturally that is the charm

If you go out and you watch yourself like a mad Max Fury Road right And then you look at the world And you got that do with the guitar Firing flames out of it And then you remember that the whole world is running out of gasoline But he's firing flames out of his guitar And you're like you know that doesn't make much sense But that's not the point because you like the flame guitar guy

Warhammer is the flame guitar guy It is the perfect, the perfect example. And that is exactly what I'm actually going to be trying to share with you the most we can. And in each episode, we'll be having our own different topic on a different part of the Warhammer world. Sometimes it'll be a faction or a race. Sometimes we'll be something a little bit more specific, like an army or perhaps a character. And sometimes it can be something a little bit more, I probably like a little bit more of an overview, things like maybe the warp. Or we could talk about like how the galaxy is structured.

lots of different options, lots of different things, lots of different books, and lots of lore to be covering. And it's going to be, I'm excited for today. We're batting out like really quickly. We're coming in hard. We're coming in super hot. We're coming in super hot. We're going with one of the most popular topics out right now. So we're starting strong.

I'm excited. And it should be noted that I have no previous knowledge about what today's topic is. So I am going in with no preconceived notions. I have no idea what's going on. The only thing I have been told by Bricky was this is like the most depressing faction in Warhammer. And that is, that's a lot to take in as far as Warhammer is concerned. I mean, Warhammer is the Depression Olympics. So the fact that these guys are running home with the gold is pretty great.

That's impressive. I'm really, really excited to find out what the most depressing faction in Warhammer is. So for the first episode's topic, we are hopping into a fan favorite the death core of Krieg. And I'm always having difficulty with this because

it is spelled K-O-R-P-S, and I'm always terrible as if it's core or corpse. That being said, I'm imagining it's core because we know we have we have core in a real military, but at the same time calling it the death corpse of

Krieg is very accurate. to the lore because these people... That seems super fitting for Warhammer, yeah. They're so fitting. So the death core of Krieg, I'm gonna call them core of Krieg because it works how easier for me. Okay, whatever works best. The Death Corps of Krieg is an Imperial Guard regiment.

You're familiar with the Imperial Guard, I assume. Familiar, yes. Well first, no. Okay, so in the Imperial Guard, it is the untold billions of men and women that fight as the hammer of the emperor, the basic shock troops. And that's the kind of like the regular old six foot tall guy, no genetic enhancements.

He's given a laser gun that can blow off limbs called the Las Gun, which is the worst weapon in Warhammer, because, you know, we got some power creep in this world. And he runs out with some pretty good modern day body armor, which of course turns into paper in the Warhammer universe. And he is just out to go kill the enemy. The thing about guardsmen is that, When you fight orcs and tyrannids, you always think about their size, like, not their actual physical size, but just the sheer amount of them. Guardsmen are the human equivalent. Most guardsmen raids legitimately involve millions upon millions of men.

Oh, that's a lot of dudes. It's a lot of dudes. I guess if you have to go and fight like orcs and tyrantids, you need a massive army because that's, orcs and tyrannids are like never ending. They're always popping up. Yeah. There's even a humorous quote in one of the Dawn of War games where guardsmen looks at an orc and says, well, there's one, there's a hundred of them. And I'm like, says the fucking guardsman, excuse me. It's the exact same thing, man. It's like, do you have no self-awareness? So guardsmen in their own right are the standard troops and they just come in a sea of men. They just never-endingly. And the whole point, to an extent, sometimes you would go and charge like a space, Marine to try to beat him with fisticuffs. And this is the Imperium.

They're so devout. Of course they're going to punch that space marine to death. Because the one who does it is absolutely the most steel bald man of all time. You know that quote, fear the old in a profession where they die young or something like that? Sure. Where men die young. That is basically a lot of the guardsmen. They have a 90% mortality rate on their first mission.

So if you get veteran guardsmen, they're like the most brass nuts men of all time. You gotta be, right? With that many, you're gonna, so many of them are gonna die in the first mission that if you're long lasting in that sea of death, like, mm. No, if you can, if you can survive your guardsmen deployments, you are an absolute monster. So this is the death core of Krieg. They're a particular regiment. So you can have regiments from different worlds because each world has their own, like, production of guardsmen. They have the imperial tithe where, you know, like a tithe in real life, you have to pay resources, food, whatever. For them, it's a lot of times soldiers.

So I'm sure you're familiar with Kadia. I think we've talked about Kadia a few times. Kedia. Doesn't sound familiar. You just, you disgust me. So, Katie. So Kadia is a really important world in Warhammer. It recently got blown up.

But a lot of the guardsmen, the more standard ones come from Kadia. There's the catachim, which are like, they all look like Rambo. They're on a jungle planet. They have giant knives and they're all like shirtless. Okay. It's very silly. There's a wonderful character. We'll talk about him in a sure different podcast.

That got half of his body bitten off. And while the medics was stitching him back up, he was chucking grenades with his good hand. Holy shit. Because nobody cares. You've got like the Vostroy and Firstborn Which are kind of more of like a steampunk Russian vibe and yada yada

The Death Corps are a World War I like Kaiser German vibe So okay The history of the Death Corps Is that they were on a wonderful world A very nice world A hive city Or not a hive city but a hive planet

Think of it like L.A but 17 times as tall And 17 times as wide That's what a hive city is And the whole world is that way Oh God I've lived in L.A Oh man

That's a lot of pollution That's a lot of pollution It's a lot of population A lot of assholes too And L.A. sucks L.A. sucks man So they live on this world of Krieg And on Krieg

They were basically They had their usual kind of deal They had lots of guardsmen That were being exported and, you know, resources and stuff. They were like any normal world, kind of shrouded in some mystery and stuff because the events of Krieg took place

around 1,500 to 2,000 years ago. Now, with Krieg, as it kind of went through its paces, there was a oligarchy that was the main ruling class, a council of, oh, God, I've always had a hard time pronounce this. It's not autocrats, right?

I mean, that sounds right to me. Is that right? Autocratic? Yeah, that sounds like. I hate the English language. You're a genius, man. You nailed it. Thank you, Warhammer. You're teaching me.

Finally. I'm not the only one learning here now. See? Oh, hell yeah. This is for both of us. Sweet. So, reading rainbow. So anyway, the ruling oligarchy for Krieg was, it was basically like, they were kind of dicks,

as most politicians tend to be. And we're not getting into that, but yeah, yeah. No, we don't have to do that, but they became really insular and very paranoid of the outside threat because they had so much power and like almost a dictatorship, pretty much a dictatorship in the oligarchy. So they put so many resources to strengthening these big cities and they had their own private armies and they surrounded their world with a ton of defenses like what Tony Stark wanted to do and, you know, he wanted to make a like a ring of steel or around the earth, you know, that kind of shit. Yeah, yeah. And they were starting to get really angry with the Imperial administratum because they had to go ahead and take the tithe of troops and stuff.

And they were like, how dare you ask us for things from our world? You know, how dare you tax our tea, you son of a bitch? Oh, we all know how that works. Yes, we know exactly what happens after that, don't we? Americans know exactly what happens after that one. So after the British kept taxing their hive cities, basically they were really angry. After enough time, the planetary governor whose name has been purged from all imperial records because of how hated he is, declared planet-wide martial law. And they are now independent of the Imperium of Man and he renounced the Emperor of Mankind.

Ooh, that seems look, again, don't know a whole lot. but I know that that's usually that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's you're reaching that Heresy level right and that is that's absolutely heresy level yeah I guess that's Heresy Beyond Heresy if you can imagine such a thing and that's oh boy I can't imagine that goes over super well no so immediately it was plunged into civil war because of course it was Of course too why not and so it the civil war between was between the planetary governor and all of his citizens and a private army he amassed versus the currently loyal imperialists of Krieg.

And as they were going through, the rebels died pretty fast. The rebels as in the imperial ones, the heretics were really fucking them up. And it got incredibly painful to the point where they were stuck into only a singular hive city and they were holding out. But then came a man. There was colonel, and I apologize. but it's like J-U-R-T-E-N. It's J-U-R-T-E-N, but the Creeg have like a German vibe. So I can't tell if it's like a German way of Spain.

Yurton? Yurton? Yeah. Maybe it's like that. It will go with that. Good old Yurti. Good old Yurti, yeah. Colonel Yerty.

So Colonel Yerty was the last main ruler of those Imperials, the ones that stayed faithful to the emperor. And so considering that he was stuck in the singular area, and he was holding out the whole time. Eventually, after asking for reinforcements from the Imperium, they realized because all those defenses they made, it would take a full-scale planetary assault to get through it. And the Imperium was basically like, yeah, it's not worth it, dude.

You're on your own. Good luck. As soon as you're like, yeah, he's on his own. All those defenses failed. I was like, oh, there's no way he's getting reinforcements. Like, there's no way that they're going to be like, oh, yeah, we'll send this gigantic fleet in. And yeah, sure, we'll help you.

It's like, nope. Ah, we'll just lose this one guy. It's fine. We'll make more. They're too busy anyway. Imperial's got shit to do like putting people to the steak. So continuing there. Busy body work, man.

That's steak pudding. They love burning wishes. They're down for it. So basically, at the end of the day, he said to himself, very simply, if the emperor would not have the planet, then nobody will. So he began what was known as the purging. Good old Colonel Yerty found a nice hidden Mechanicus secret. You know the Mechanicus, right?

The creepy Techno people. Yeah, I love their aesthetic. I want to paint some of them. One of the few ones I actually want to paint because they look so damn cool with all their crazy spider arms and servo skulls and shit. I mean, Techno monks is a pretty awesome concept. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I hear it's totally canon that they fuck Toasters.

Oh, totally Canada. There's no way that's not true. So what happened was that in a nice secret Mechanicus vault underneath the cities, because there was already a ton of underground cities, he and his friend, another one of the Majos, went down to go into this very fancy-pancy Mechanicus vault, and what was there? A bunch of nukes.

And I mean a bunch of nukes. Like a lot. And so good old Yerty was like, if I can't have the planet, nobody will. So he fired over and over again as all the traders watched silos open up across the planet and nuclear missiles fly into the air and detonate in the planet stratosphere, completely carpeting it in radioactive isotopes and fallouts. Oh my God. That's crazy.

I mean, I guess if the Imperium isn't going to send you reinforcements and you're going to die anyway and you know that there's a secret cache of nukes, why not take all of these fucking traders with you? Sure. This man just fall out at his whole planets. Jesus Christ. So for days, upon days, it was engulfed in this just giant blanket of nuclear fire. And then they already had like a kind of tainted ecosystem. that collapsed. Billions of people died, either from the fires,

the radioactive radiation poisoning, or the nuclear winter that then followed. And basically, after Yerty's purging occurred, everybody else had to chill in bunkers underneath the surface. Now, I got a question for you. I got an ABC question for you. All right, about the Yerty Purgy? About the Yerty purgy.

About the Yerty purgy. So after Colonel Yerty's Purgy, what happened next? One, they continue to murder each other for more years. Two, there were literally no heretics left. Or three, the entire planet eventually succane to their wounds and died. I have to, look, knowing it's got to be the first one. I can't imagine even setting off, I'm assuming hundreds of maybe things. thousands of nukes, even that wouldn't stop these assholes from killing each other as like

radioactive zombies or something. I'm going with A. I'm going with one. A is correct. They continued to murder each other for 500 years. 500 years. The Krieg Civil War was a 500 year war. How did they, okay, how did they keep fighting after all those nukes and like, if they already had a fucked up ecosystem, the nukes go off. It's totally collapsed. How many billions of people died from like the fallout and the the nuke winter? How did they continue for 500 years? The entire planet turned into a stalemate where the entire surface was barely hospitable. Actually, it was inhospitable without gas masks and protective equipment.

And they dug trenches across almost every inch of the surface to engage in trench warfare and sieging in stalemates for 500 years until. Until eventually, after enough time, the loyalist emperor loving Kriegsman, with all of their trenches, all of their gas masks, and their shovels eventually came out victorious. Wow. That is a battle and a half. It is. Did the Imperium ever be like, oh, hey, so we noticed you made a little progress. Now that their things are a little maybe, maybe we'll send some reinforcements or, Was it just like, nah, it's, fuck it.

We're just going to stalemate this planet and whatever. Oh, no, they told them to go, go fuck yourselves and try your best. Because at that point, once the planet was nuclearly bombed into oblivion, they thought to themselves, there's literally no point in salvaging this. This is a waste of resources. This whole planet is fucked. That's true. Because even if you, even if you do send reinforcements and conquer it, what are you conquering? a barren radioactive wasteland

that you can't use anyway. Exactly. That's fair. That's fair. So basically after the 500 years of fighting and the, so now, Kriegson has a nice reputation both in the community as well as in lore

to be these gas mask wearing, they got the Kaiser helmets and they love digging trenches and they love hitting people with trench shovels. That's one of their favorite melee weapons. It's a good old shovel. And so naturally it's very World War I obviously very World War I very German So they're extremely popular for that aesthetic And it's also kind of cool because they don't have their own faces because they're always gas masks

You can never tell what any of them look like so they have just kind of this like face of death Constantly going on They even they like to ride in on horses quite often creepy mutated horses that also wear gas masks No way don't please Look, I need a picture of a horse wearing a gas mask immediately. I got this. Because like that's... And of course they're muted.

What do they have like six legs? Not six legs, but their legs just in particular are really fucked up. Oh, oh God, yeah, they are fucked up. Oh, God, yeah, okay, yep. I thought I was going with the stereotypical, like, you know, and had three sets of two, you know, two, like two sets of front and one set in the back, you know, but that is, oh, boy. Yeah, I could see why, if you were like, if you were,

like a historian or a World War buff or whatever, this would be the faction that you would totally gravitate towards. They love them. With the trench warfare, the gas masks and everything, yeah, I totally get that. So continuing from this entire, just massive war, now Krieg is a death world. There are classifications of worlds. A lot of them are known as death worlds. And like, for instance, I mentioned the Katachin Rambo Boys. They live on a death world because every single animal on that world and plant is carnivorous.

We'll talk about them later. Some other podcast episode. But so Kriegsman now, after this insane amount of, one, heresy, but warfare, the department of minestorum said, okay, you guys owe us now. Due to your heresy, you now owe us the Imperium, a tithe of soldiers. And to their shock, Krieg did not provide one or two, but 20 regiments of men immediately. And they asked for the most inhospitable warfare zones possible. They requested it. Wow.

Okay. So what the thing with Krieg now is they hate themselves. They deem themselves as unworthy to the emperor's light. And due to their heresy, they have a never-ending feeling of this. guilt for what they did as a people. So they have such a requirement to serve the emperor to an almost suicidal note. There's a great not only joke, but legitimate lore thing. Do you know the commissar?

He's the guy who shoots you if you run away. So Death Corps commissars have the interesting duty to make sure that the death corps don't run in too much. Because if everyone else runs away, they blast them in the face. But when it comes to death core, they're like, guys, guys, stop. Stop, back up, back up. You can't immediately die, guys. You've got to rein this shit in. We're trying to win this fight.

The, the creg motto is, and I quote, or sorry, it's the final litany of the litany of sacrifice recited by a creg guardsman when entering the battle. It is, quote, in life, war, in death. peace. In life, shame, in death, atonement. So they're just like, I can't wait to die. I am sure. Jesus Christ, that's crazy. So I'm assuming they get sent on like the almost nigh unwinnable like whatever missions where they got to go to like crazy carnivorous plant hybrid worlds or whatever. Quite often, yes. They participate. They particularly request the most hazardous war zones available. Often, they'll have many times where certain guardsmen regiments just cannot get through.

Due to horrible volcanic activity, the way the sun blasts the planet, a tidily locked planet, for instance, where the sun part is so hazardous that they just, it's impossible to get some people across there. horrible jungles and acid areas. They live in a nuclear scorched wasteland. To them, this is like Tuesday. That's like paradise. That's like a vacation. They're stoked. They always choose the worst zones,

and they have become very efficient at it. They only have one real problem. They bring down morale for everyone else around them. Because they're too good. Well, no, no, no, no. Not that they're too good. They're too sad. oh well that I guess that's

You know like Gallo's humor You know like Yeah fair enough Bring everyone down a little bit I thought Genuinely when you said that I was like oh it's because they've been on so many crazy missions

They request the hardest stuff So if they're still here Oh man My morale's super low Because yeah look at them go crazy And But yeah I suppose it is

They're so fucking sad No they can't wait to die They're stoked to die They're suicidal So you go to everywhere else and they're like, I don't like to, I don't want to work with these people. They're creepy. Fair enough.

So, and interestingly enough, when it comes down to the Death Corps and how they get their troops, now their number one export of their planet, the tithe for the Imperium, is indeed guardsmen, never-ending amounts of guardsmen. And in fact, they're producing quite a few a little too quickly. They are kind of curious that there might be a problem and they might be having some not perfectly

more, well I say moral in the Imperium, but moral means of rebirth and birthing. That's a whole other topic. We don't need to talk about that. But let's just imagine that they're popping out soldiers a little too quickly.

A little too quick, okay. A little too quick. That being said, they have a massive amount of guardsmen coming from their planet. They have other things like they have a couple of eugenics policies, but that's more to get rid of mutations from their horrible landscape. Yeah, fair enough.

But often, often, the creed can be deployed into areas that are horrendously horrible and therefore allow the Imperium to not have to use any of their Penal Legion troops or even space marines. Because space marines, while you see them a lot, are actually a very rare sight on the battlefield. They only come if you really need someone to get something done. So for that time being, there is really no faction as down to run head first and to experience death as the death core. They are a not only radiation-stricken planet, but they are a depressing faction that are

always stoked to die, build trenches, whack you with a shovel, especially the whacking with the shovel part. They love their shovels. Those trench shovels, man. They love digging a good trench. And they love hitting you with one. There's a great, there's a great image, I love it, and it's these two towel, it's a towel guy and his kid and the dad

the dad checks under the kid's bed for monsters, and there's a bunch of Kriegson with shovels down there crawling out. It's wonderful. I assume when they go on other worlds, they're still just digging trenches wherever they go as well, right? That's still their main,

source of like, you know, combat tactics, right? They're just digging trenches even in like a fucking volcano. Well, they're masters of the siege and they're masters of like attrition. So that actually is a great point because it gets me to a wonderful war that me and shy we're looking at earlier. So I'm going to read this verbatim from the wiki, all right? Castigation of Durandis. the main issue with this world and the funny part of this battle is simply their nature of how the creed commit murder.

So the hive room of Durandas withheld its annual tides which of course are guardsmen food, etc. Regiments of Krieg's death court were deployed to act as the honor garb of the departmento immunitarum investigation team.

After the imperial officials were hanged by the rebellious populace the Krieg troops to redeploy into the towering mountains that overlooked the primary hive city. Several artillery and siege companies began to bombard the city spires and the inhabitants were mercifully gunned down as they tried to break out of the besieged city. After 10 years of relentless artillery shelling, the hive city was reduced to nothing but rubble and dust.

Two years after all signs of life had already ceased and five years after the hive had issued an unconditional surrender. So we give up, we all give up, and they're bomb them for five more years, and it's like, sir, there is literally not any signs of life, two more years. Two more years of bombing. Jesus. That's literally one of the most Warhammer things I have ever heard.

They've given up, we've won. Yeah, but look, there's still buildings down there, man. you fuck, keep fucking them up. That's the most war-ever thing ever. It's so silly. There's such an over-the-top in a world of over-the-top people. They tend to have a lot of rather interesting different kinds of troops as well. Like I said, but they mention the horses.

There's like a grenadier shock troops and stuff. And that being said, ironically, the Death Corps recruitment and training, for someone who wants to die so quickly, they spend a lot of time training. They're trained from crib to grave, crib to coffin. As soon as they're born there in full training. And kind of a funny thing is since the Kriegsmen are so interested in dying, there's always a slight issue that the guardsmen themselves are not quite of age.

And so a lot of times 14 to 16 year old kids will join the guardsmen regiments. But you can't tell because they're not. have their masks on. Right. And all the, all that armor. Yeah, so you have no idea that this is a 16 year old kid

that's about to duke it out with Gasco, Throcka, uh, orc war boss. How, how in the hell, uh, do you train a Kriegsman at,

like, from, you said it was like crib to grave. How, how the hell you train in a Kriegsman baby? Like, I'm assuming you're a place their bottle with a shovel

and their pacifier with a pin of a grenade. And you just move it from there. There's a fan art I need to see manifest. A little creig baby. He's in diapers. He's got like a gas mask on with a shovel in one hand and a grenade pin in the other. He doesn't get a bottle and a pacifier. No, no, no.

Oh, and he's got to be in like a little hole because he dug himself a trench. He dug himself a trench. That's the crib. They don't get a crib. They just get a little baby trench in the floor. You know, ironically, that's probably what might have. happened because they all live underground now because of the damn nuclear radiation.

Oh, that's true. That might actually happen. They might just dig them a little hole and that's your warm hole that you sleep in. It's kind of like, um... You really start off in the depression as a baby, just into the hole. Like, Jesus. You come out of the womb and you're like, I want to die.

So your first thought is, man, can I just end it? Can I be done? But it has to be in the Emperor's Service, though. You can't just die. It has to be in the Emperor's Service. You have to die in the Emperor's Service. just a pitiful, meaningless thing. You got to find that redemption, right? Yes.

For what your people did. It's particularly for Atonement, of course. Moving on, though, Kriegsman in particular, I want to take a grab of a couple of quotes that I found over here on the 40K lexicon. So we got a couple guard quotes. These guys have got to be just, they've got to be the life of the party as far as quotes are concerned. There's a couple particularly good quotes. It depends on exactly what kind of type of person you're talking to.

For instance, there's always some humorous ones where they're like the Katachin, right? The guys on the jungle planet. They always joke about how all of my half my men have been eaten by the wildlife. I got itching in my ass that is killing me. Both of my boots have been pulled off due to like a radioactive muck. God damn it, emperor, I love this place. It's just like home. You get a lot of stuff like that.

As for the Kriegsman, there's a couple quotes here, only a few, which you got wonderful Lieutenant Karnarski, 933 Death Corps Regiment. His quote is, and I quote, We are the Death Corps of Kriegsum. You think that that was just a pretty name. We never retreat. We fight and we die. That is the Krieg way.

Pretty, no, kind of, That's a nice sort of standard way to describe. Yeah, yeah. That's a good little describer of them, sure. It's a saw one. We also have this one from good old Colonel German name. Don't can't pronounce that shit. It says, your foe is well equipped, well trained, battle-hardened.

He believes his gods are on his side. Let him believe that he will. We have tanks on ours. Another solid quote. Another great quote to describe the creak. And this is the last one. and this is a pretty good one. It says, quote, nah,

soon as you're old enough, you're sent to join the first regiment. Colonel Stagler don't approve of educated men, says it was educated men that got Krieg bombed to shit in the first place. The colonel says that all a man needs to do is fight and die. That is the Krieg way. An unnamed Krieg Corps soldier explaining his illiteracy. It's always the ending.

The ending is the best explaining his illiteracy. Hey, you don't need to know anything besides shoot, run, and shovel. Yeah, shoot, run, shovel, and die. That's the Krieg way. So, moving on as we're starting to, as we've already talked quite a bit about Krieg and their backstory, I do want to talk a little bit about the tabletop just slightly. Okay. So as, I know you don't know much about the tabletop, but as for the Krieg, they're very,

they're not very well represented. Unfortunately, games workshop and all of their wisdom decided to basically discontinue a lot of their kits, which is rather unfortunate because they're a very popular army. They have a couple interesting abilities. One of my more favorite ones is the cult of sacrifice, which is whenever they die, they have a 50% chance to shoot you anyway, which is kind of fun, you know, it's kind of a cool idea. It seems like a great thing, you know.

It's not great, but it's something. As for the models, you know, as for the models, you know, it's kind of, you know, it's not great. you can buy themselves. So if you wanted to get, so games are 2,000 points, right? Sure, sure. Good old 2,000 points. And if you wanted to do a nice bit of guardsmen, you wanted to run a wonderful bit of Cadian guardsmen,

and you wanted to grab 10 whole guardsmen, it would cost you $36. Now, 10 guardsman is about 50 points, give or take if you put some good weapons on them. Sure. And 50 points of 2,000. is, you know, 140th of a full army.

So for $36, you get one-fortieth of an army. Okay. Krieg. Kriegsman, however, the Death Corps of Krieg Infantry Squam on the Games Workshop site, well, it's the Forge World site,

is $72 for 10 of them. Oh. So if you wanted 500 points of guardsmen, it would drive you to 700 trim and $20 without tax and without shipping. Oh, boy. That's, oh, that's a lot. That is, that is a fair chunk of change.

It is hoarse shit and it gets worse. It gets worse. It gets worse. So that was $72. You can also get a command squad HQ, which is like a special group of five commanders. And it's only five models, not 10. That costs you $55 for half the models. And let's not forget the engineers that cost you $42 for five models.

It is... Oh, boy, that's... It is horses shit. That's crazy. So, like, why... Is there a reason why they stopped, like, making these and why they're, like, not in production? Because it sounds like they should be a very popular, like, faction. Well, um, it's like...

You know, the script. Scorpion and the frog tail? No, I know. I do not. I can't say I do. Okay, so the scorpion and the frog is just an old, like, little kind of metaphor or more of like a tail. The concept is that a frog is carrying a scorpion across the way to the river, and the frog's like, no fucking way I'm going to do that. And the scorpion's like, why the hell would I sting you?

If we're both in the water, we'll both die. And halfway through the water, the scorpion stings him anyway. and he's like, why did you do that? We're both going to die now. And he's like, well, he's a scorpion. It's in his nature. Right. It's in GW's nature to do shit that doesn't make sense.

I thought this was taking a much more profound intellectual route. No, it's not. They don't, yes, you're correct. It's a very popular faction and people love them. They didn't necessarily. discontinue like the actual purchasable kits, they got rid of the rules in the game. So I guess you could still field them, but their rules are gone. And if I was a man who does not want to be super negative, I'd argue that it's because they wanted to streamline the rules more, because instead,

back in the day, they were kind of their own faction and they couldn't use a lot of the regular guard stuff. Now they can, but now they have less unique units. if I was hopefully thinking or like thinking in a more hopeful way, I would argue that they're going to get some nice new stuff on the main website and be an actual thing in the new codex. That's not going to happen because Scorping and the Frog, but either way, I have no idea. So, D.K., today, that was the Death Corps of Krieg.

Definitely a big topic for the first podcast. A very popular one, thoughts. impressions? I can't believe I'd never heard of these I struggle to say people. I can't believe I've never heard of them. That's okay. It's acceptable. They're so depressing. And their history and their heresy and the fervorous use of nukes to what should have destroyed a planet and all of its population suddenly spawns a 500-year war. And still, They still exist and they still go back and they're still crazy.

Warhammer's wild, dude. Colonel Yerty is a man of many talents. Colonel Yerty's dead, by the way. He died just to the Civil War, you know, at some point he passed. But, you know. Yerdy Purgy, never forget. The Yerty Purgy. He's a nuts man.

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