Adeptus Ridiculous - The Golden Age of Goofy Minis: A look at 1996 Warhammer 40k Catalog

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousWe found a Warhammer catalog from ...30 years ago, and the miniatures are... interesting. Join us for a trip down memory lane as we react to the 1996 Citadel US Annual. We compare these vintage metal models to their modern counterparts to see just how much the hobby has evolved. ​Some of these sculpts are nostalgic classics, and some are absolute nightmare fuel. Let's discuss the massive glow-up of the Warhammer 40,000 range.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamanties. His name is Kiryoth. I was going to say Bricky first. Didn't. Whatever. It's Kiryoth. It's Bricky. It's D.K. Hello. Welcome to Adeptis Ridiculous. If you would like to support the podcast, head over to Patreon.com slash Adeptis Ridiculous, where you can get access to the Discord. Blupers if they happen. $15 tier gets you access to all of our posters in just the most wonderful digital form you've ever seen. Patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Bricky, how we doing? It's the new year.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Nothing has gone wrong yet. Woo! Oh, man. Fuck you, it's January! On this podcast! You-hoo, yay! Fuck you, it's January. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Thank you, Red Letter Media, for arguably the greatest of all of all those memes. Very, very good. stuff. Welcome to the brand new year on the podcast. I hope things are going very well to everyone. Obviously, if you would like, you can check out the merchandise down below. I do believe because it is the brand new year, this is the last chance you're going to be able to get any of the posters from last year, and those will be going away in February. However, I'll probably talk about that more on a later episode. But yeah, you know, check out the pursters, check out the posters, check out the dice, check out the all the good
Starting point is 00:01:47 stuff. It's all down there in the description. And we will most definitely remember to do the book club on the Carcadon's this month. Oh, right. Yeah, no, I, you know, sometimes you think to yourself like, oh, are we like, are we, you know, too busy? Are we too lazy? Or sometimes do we just forget. You know, yeah, sometimes we just forget because I, I did. I haven't even started it.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I completely forgot. Between everything going on in the end of the year, I, it's completely slipped my mind. So we'll get sure we get that out this month, promise. I just want to find out. Probably. I'm not even involved in the book club and people were sending me messages asking where it was. And I was just like, why didn't you, why didn't you tell us? I don't know. Yeah, why didn't you tell us, man? Nobody, nobody sent me a message about it. I assumed that you
Starting point is 00:02:49 were actually busy. I was just like, well, there's a bit, it's, you know, end of the year, start the new year. There's a lot going on. It's a busy time. There's, there's all sorts. So I'm assuming you've got a plan for it. So I, you know, I didn't want to be the person going, have you forgotten about this? Because I just didn't think that's what had happened. But, uh, I mean, If I was going to... Bad news. Bad news for you, buddy. I did, in fact, completely forget.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So we will get that done. Don't you worry, our extremely patient viewers. How adorable that Kiriath thought that something that I was involved in had a plan. Adorable, Kiriath. Just, you poor sweet summer child. Also, Bricky Pryor. probably was busy, but me. Yeah, I was, I, I, I, I was busy.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah, like I said, you probably genuinely were busy. You have stuff to do. No, it doesn't count. I, this, this one doesn't count because, yeah, I'm busy, but like, it's an audio book, brother. True. I can just listen to it what I'm doing my busyness. True. So this was, in fact, just a forgetting.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Anyway, we've, We've beat that dead possum For too long. Damn, he's dead? Yeah, his podcast is about to get much worse. Oh, shit. That fantasy episode is going to be wild when we do it. Barry, we're going to dig up possum's dead body and beat him with sticks until he,
Starting point is 00:04:31 until he, He does the fantasy episode. Hell yeah. sometimes it's the only way to get a bit of productiveness on the go. That's not true of possum. I immediately take that back. Possum does loads of work.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Do you know what we're doing today? Hell no, dude. No? No. Okay. Not in the slightest. I have very good news for both of you. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I don't like that. I don't think it's good news. I don't think it's good news. I mean, there's, there's no real way for me to do. Wait, no, I take it back. We can do a quote. I've just, I've just realized something.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You just dangle the keys in front of our faces. Yeah. It's like my, it's like my favorite words to hear on Adrick is I don't have a quote. And then you got, you got to take it back like that. Great. Thanks, Curio. This is screwed up, Curio.
Starting point is 00:05:31 2025 sucks. 2026 sucks. To be honest, this one, I feel like you're going to get the gist of it very quickly, purely because the text that I'm about to read you is fairly unequivocal as to what it is. So we'll start it out. This catalogue that you are holding in your hand is your complete source for the Warhammer 40,000 line of Citadel miniatures. All the black and white models are shown at actual size, although some of the vehicles and colour references had to be reduced.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's, that's, that's, that's a quote, huh? It's like, like an old, like, like, like, a old painting guide or something or like, like, like, a early edition of the game. It is in fact, the 1996 US Warhammer 40,000 catalog, which I have linked for you there. We're going to take a look at some literally 30 year old miniatures. Oh, heck yeah. Wait, hold on, hold on here. I don't know this is correct.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Warp spiders look the same. If you think those look familiar, you should check out the Lehmann Rus Battle Tank and the Lehman Rus Demoster, which are miraculously similar to what you can buy literally today. And when I say similar, I of course mean exactly the same thing. Yeah. You know, I mean, I joked because I know the Warp Spires did just get it. update recently, but that Lehman Russ does look, I, it doesn't look one to one. I don't, yeah, some of the guns and stuff, uh, used to be metal and are obviously now plastic
Starting point is 00:07:19 and things like metal guns, mountain storm bolter. Uh, that is no longer how that looks because is, Jesus. In the 90s was every, I don't know why, but in my head, I thought that some stuff was like plastic. Every image I click, well, not every image. There's a lot of metal. Like, oh yeah. There's more metal than plastic.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Absolutely. Oh, that must have sucked. Yeah, I really, I genuinely judge anyone who's like, oh yeah, I like metal minis. I think there is no better way to describe nostalgia speaking. than that.
Starting point is 00:08:04 From a quaint perspective of like, how look how funny it is, like fine, but actually painting of a metal miniature. I have a bunch of guard attache, like the old navigate, or masters of the fleet and stuff like that. And they are so metal and they're so awful. Shai says the Corvus Belli Infinity fans,
Starting point is 00:08:28 which is an all metal war game are pissed right now. Listen, What is that? We did a sponsor for Corvus Infinity, and the models do look good. However, I'm pointing at the 30-year-old metal Morty and Iron Guard is very different. Yeah, it's a little different. Whatever you just put... Very, very different.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I'm assuming it's from that. That looks phenomenal. Yeah, yeah. It's a more traditional sci-fi type thing. Also, can we appreciate that the 1996 Citadel Ministers Catalog is a whopping. dropping $1.25 on the on the the front part of it a buck 25 for a book by games workshop of any caliber never happens that's crazy never happened now that would be like a 50 this would be like a $50 book right now well at least 30 at least was there anything in particular you wanted to
Starting point is 00:09:25 kind of point out because there's a lot of goofy ass things right here oh yeah anything you Click on is goofy. That's true. There's not a lot that's held the test of time since 1996. You mentioned the warp spiders. I did find it kind of interesting, like, looking at said warp spiders. So they, of the Eldar stuff that, like, took forever to get refreshed, I'm just going to say it. I think the warp spiders actually held up pretty well.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like, looking at those now, obviously the scale isn't as good as the, um, is the refresh ones. But, but they're not bad. They, they look decent. Yeah. The X-Sarch looks,
Starting point is 00:10:10 the X-Rex looks pretty cool anyway. Yeah, I mean, okay, I guess you're not entirely wrong. Like, those are the new ones right there. And the new ones do look better,
Starting point is 00:10:19 like clearly. Yeah. Uh, I think for me, it's, they have that same issue that all old school 40 K vignatures have, which is them, being on a base that was clearly too small for them.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And also, like, their guns were enormous. Yeah. Also, until you said it, I didn't even look at the bases. I was like, yeah, they are struggling to be on that thing. That little thing is fighting for its life. There's the old, there's the old 40K jean stealers, old gene stealers, old gene stealer mini. were like a 25 millimeter or something. And the entire freaking model overhung that thing.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It was actually really hard to deal with. Yeah. I mean, just look at the, look at the way the arms are so far over the front of the base right there. Oh, yeah. And a lot of the guns and they're hunched over it. Yeah. It's how how anyone got those to balance is absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:29 beyond me. I don't know how they did it. Although, to be fair, they are plastic. 30 years ago, gene stealers already plastic. So there were a, um, I did have a bunch of these old jeans stewards and I remember transporting them before. And what really got me was the fact that if you
Starting point is 00:11:47 put them together, like, you know, we didn't really have, uh, magnetized, uh, trays or cases or anything like that. So you kind of just like put them all in a little foam thing and then like prayed. And, With Gene Steeler specifically, they had that issue of having all of the hands and arms kind of like cinch together and find a way. It was like when you nicely rolled up headphones or earphones or whatever into your pocket. And then you would pull them out and it would be horribly tangled and you're like, how the hell did that even happen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:22 That was how it felt like whenever I transported Gene Steeler is because all of their limbs would just end up like giving each other bear hugs. It was very, very strange. I spent so long trying to detangle just to be able to play the game. Yeah, the, the PTSD from the headphone thing, I'm like, God, you're in my pocket for one second. What the fuck happened? You know what? Talking of Tyrannid, since we've got the gene sealers up there, the vast. I was actually just about to mention these.
Starting point is 00:12:52 What the hell is that? That's a card effects, man. Technically, I think we're a killer variance. Listen, I look, I have very high recency bias of like really good Tyrannid minis. And I'm sure when this first came out, it was just like, whoa, that's so boss. Wow. Totally tubular, dude, because it's the six, it's the 96. Like, dude, this was 96 in the UK, brother.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, they weren't. They weren't true. Oh, it's a radical, my. Sure. Like, they were not totally tubular. Yeah, definitely not was ever a thing that we had. Probably not. But damn, those are rough.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Actually, this is a really random question because I'm not very smart when it comes to this stuff. Keryoth, what, like, so when I was out in the UK for a bit, I noticed a wide variety of the English accent, particularly the difference between like is it like is it southerners that are posh like much more posh sounding? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Because I found that a little strange because I was here. I heard I like some people I knew had like that that posh British dialect or whatever or like accent. But isn't London very south as well? Yeah. London. Londoners did not sound posh when I was there at all. No, there's a lot of.
Starting point is 00:14:33 London's got like a, I wouldn't say it's all like Cockney sort of accents, but there is a lot of that that's kind of lingered and spread around. And it's, it's like weirdly resilient. Basically what I'm trying to get at, Kiryath, is I want you to take a look at these original Tyrannid warriors. and from back in 1990, I want you to call them totally tubular in a posh British accent.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Okay, let me see if I can try this. Okay, Jesus Christ, these tyrannid warriors are totally tubular. Hell yeah, brother. Ooh! Yeah, let's go. Now I want a shirt that has this guy on it and it just has white text totally tubular.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I it's it's not just the fact that the tyranet warrior so it's kind of weird right because you look at the the original tyrannids and like the carnifex slash screamer killer is obviously very different as is the lichter the hive tyrant kind of stuck around with its look it has a little bit of the death metal skull but it still kind of has a bit of its vibe going on but the warriors don't look nothing alike no like golly the tyrannids have changed a lot lot. Like the hive tyrant is probably the thing that's like, oh yeah, that's, I mean, you can still see it. The other ones are like, good God, it's a total refresh. It is a total rework. It is not even close to what it is now for the better. I think we can all agree. But holy, what a trip. Also, I love to see that, if I, am I wrong in saying this, but I was, looking at Eldar because I was curious like, okay, out of all of the factions currently see, currently here, which factions look the closest to their modern day counterparts? And I would say that Tyrannids look the least close. Yes, Dave, oh boy. By far. A hundred percent. Yeah. The ones that still look the most of their modern day counterparts seem like they're either between orcs or Ldar. And I think it's for two reasons. I think it's orcs because. they kind of kept that look. And I think it's Eldar
Starting point is 00:16:57 because they haven't been updated. I was going to say haven't they only just recently started getting like updates? Like serious updates. And so it's like a lot of people were still running metal and like old minis because of all you had. So
Starting point is 00:17:13 I will say the orcs the orcs have changed actually a bit more than I expect. They have the same vibe. They're just not like they definitely have had like their upscale. I mean, look at the freebooters though. Like, I just put the freebooters in.
Starting point is 00:17:29 They have had their upscale, but some of the, like, especially the heads. It's really weird though, because you've got like, you've got stuff in there that is so different to what you expect from, like, you're just, your orcs, your everyday orcs. But then when you look back at things like the snake bites, some of them have got those same like, flat jaw weird faces.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Some of them have got faces that are just not that far off what you get at Forks now. They're kind of all over the place. Yeah, but I feel like for the most part, they're still pretty similar. Right? Like, it's not as, I feel like it's not as big a difference as like those nids. Like, good lord. It is night and day. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:22 The vehicles. for orcs have definitely like massively changed over time. Can I interest you in an orc war buggy? Good Lord. Dude, dude, it's just wheels. On a very basic foundation. Yep. Oh, wait. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh, shit. It's the old gas. Look at him. Yeah. Look at him. Also, what is with the giant stick coming out of the mega armor plasma gun guys? Oh, Gaz, what happened to you?
Starting point is 00:18:57 They've got bad moon symbol sticking out of them, but I don't know why. That's a really weird choice. Oh, man. So, org fans must, when they, when Gaz got upgraded, they must have been like,
Starting point is 00:19:11 holy hell, like to what he is today, like, orc fans must have just been seismically happy. with what he ended up being. There's a couple gazes though. Because there's this gas. And then there was another gas.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Mega armor gas. And then there's the gas we have now. I don't, Mega armor gas, like he was around for so long. So long. Yeah, I don't think this is the problem.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Gas actually came out that much after this cataloged in. I think it was, I think it was pretty close. Yeah. But weirdly, I don't know I'm not going to say I absolutely love old gas But like for the time
Starting point is 00:19:57 There's a lot of personality crammed into a fairly short orc No, I'm in agreement with that one I am fully an agreement with that one I think that out of if I'm looking at this whole list of models That gas has some of the most aura And I like that really I don't know Out of all the other minis.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Mm-hmm. I think I've just got too much, like, I wasn't around for this. I never had to, like, I never got into, like, nostalgia for it. So I'm having, like, that moment of, like, all I've known is, like, that massive, amazing mega armor that mini.
Starting point is 00:20:39 That's the only gazz I've known. So going from that, looking back to this little guy, it's like, I understand that, like, at the time, That was the fashion at the time. I'm just like, that kind of just looks like any old war boss to me. I'm like, there's no aura here.
Starting point is 00:20:55 What do you mean? It's just a guy and a silly little git. See, a guy and a silly little git, though, I mean, that's sick. Nice. I mean, I'm mostly with you. I am someone who tends to prefer the modern day versions of the miniatures. However, I also do prefer the modern day gazz, but that old gazz, he is. is dripped.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Like, you can't deny his aura. I mean, look at them shoes. He's got little skull shoes. He, like, he doesn't look bad. Also, the updated painting one does look pretty good. But, I mean, I don't know. That's fine. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Like, he looks good. The ammo belt is quality. Also, Shia is correct. The hat and the flag are excellent. The flag, especially. I love the, like, the, squared drawing of the
Starting point is 00:21:52 of the orc on the banner. Also, um, can I make a statement? Uh, you sent earlier the freebooters captain and the storm boy. What the fuck is a storm boy drill boo?
Starting point is 00:22:07 What is the drill boo? I believe that is a, just a typo on the website. It's, it's a drill boss on the, oh, you're right. It's drill boss. You're right.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I write it is a typo It's like What the hell is this? When I saw it before I was like Drillboos It made it sound like there was multiple of them And then when I scrolled down
Starting point is 00:22:33 It was just one guy I was like oh okay What What a model though The like simitar chain sword The fact that the rockets are like Cartoon Like cartoon ass ass
Starting point is 00:22:47 old style rocket. I genuinely really like it. It's really dumb, but I like it. Oh, this is, um, this is weird, but what is the name? So I just found this earlier, because this is a classic. This is an old, um, Trader Terminator. And the guy on the bottom is actually a, uh, I forget, it was like an old school artwork of World Eater stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And they actually remade him recently. Yes. Oh, I forget his name. It starts with an A. But I don't remember. Oh, there he is. As Rack the Annihilator. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:29 What a great name. Oh, shit. It's literally like a one-to-one remake of the original model, but obviously upscaled to a modern day setting. It's so good. It's still around. I think it'd be cool if they did that more often, just modern, like, upscaling of like old minis.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I'd agree Yeah Because that looks dope That looks fresh I love that I think I think some of that stuff Would be
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yes Just yes Don't make it metal Please Also I assume metal minis Metal minis They all just came Put together
Starting point is 00:24:07 And everything And just you were buying A hunk of Metal that was just Already shaped As it was supposed to be Like obviously You're not gluing
Starting point is 00:24:14 metal pieces together And soldering them Off the fucking Spur You were absolutely all gluing them together. Yeah, you're 100%. No way, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah, 100%. Was it just a box that had like a little bag with a bunch of metal parts in it? It would depend on the, it would depend on like the kit, but quite often it would be in a blister pack. So I'd have a little see-through window. You could see all the bits you were getting. And then you peeled the cardboard off. You sat there with your super glue, prayed desperately that you didn't at any point drop it because it would just fall apart again. often there would be a bit of
Starting point is 00:24:49 there would be a little bit of green stuff and the like but you know whoa whoa whoa whoa shy is putting slander out here I didn't fill DK's head with lies metal minis are not difficult to glue together or nothing they just suck to paint
Starting point is 00:25:06 they just yeah we were just talking about the paint part Ricky didn't tell me anything about actually building the metal minis right look I'll disagree with that I did it too I'm too shy, and it blows. Thank you, Kyriar. I mean, I have a metal, one of the old metal demon princes, like, on my desk. And they, I just found that, it was just tedious to put together.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Because depending on how it was cast, and if there are any issues of the casting of it, sometimes it just wouldn't line up properly. I'm sure I've mentioned before because it's a trauma that refuses to die. But the nightbringer, the old metal nightbringer, that had the worst join known to man, where it joined at the waist. So it had like the cloak down the bottom, and then you could see his abs and all that. And basically, you just put the two halves together. Garbage.
Starting point is 00:25:58 It was just hot garbage. I don't think, I challenge anyone to say, yeah, my night bringer went together absolutely perfectly first time, and I didn't have to do any filling whatsoever. Because no one I know experienced that joy, and I definitely didn't. and I had to, I think I, no, I didn't end up doing two. I had to try and kitbash a scythe because the scyth got so bent and mangled that it just became like, not like malleable, but it ended up snapping. So, yeah, I, I felt that same thing for some reason. I don't, it's shocking to imagine metal miniatures being more bendable than plastic, but they were.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Oh, they were. It was sent. it's so strange I think my problem is I am imagining high quality metal for these things and I don't think that's what you got actually is it
Starting point is 00:26:55 no you did not nope that shit was soft as hell okay because in my head I was like oh metal minnie's like I'm imagining they're just like these really solid hunks of like metal and I'm like you're gluing like these big hunts of metal and like it's just not computing in my
Starting point is 00:27:11 brain and you're like no it was just it was just cheap, bendable, shitty metal and I'm like, okay, it's starting to... Yeah, it's pewter, as opposed to, like... You're not getting steel mini. Yeah. I think my brain was thinking you were getting steel fucking minis back then.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's like, no, no, no. The minis didn't cost $30,000. It wasn't Warhammer $40,000 a mini. Yeah. No, yeah. Give it time. We're getting there. I just spotted something that I have to, I,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I love seeing the old rhino and razorback, especially the old razorback. Look at that turret. Oh, yes. And again, oh, look at him. Look at him sitting in there. Look at that little guy. He's having fun. He's also, the turret is pewter.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So it's a metal turret on a plastic rhino. Oh. I remember very often how the metal bits, because the metal was heavy. It actually was genuinely heavy. I remember sometimes I would carry a mini, it would have like a metal bit in it. And it would like throw off the equilibrium of the miniature because of the metal bits.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And so it would mess with the rest of the stuff. Actually, looking at the, looking at the old space marine devastators and stuff like that. I don't remember if any of their guns, some of that were pewter metal or not. But I'm looking at the Terminators and I'm like, ah, those haven't changed. a day. I mean, they have.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Those are basically the... They're more or less the same. They're basically the same. Same helmet, same general vibe. Just a little bigger and a little cleaner. A little chunkier, yeah. Although, shy, I will agree with you. The turret is less dumb than that silly little double dash Mario Kart primaris thing.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, no, you're totally right. Yeah, that's not great. I just can't stand that model. That's not great. I just don't like it. No, don't like it at all. So this might be a shocking revelation. I actually don't hate the ATV.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Not because it's good, but because it brings me back to like space marine attack bike, side, like sidecar bullshit. And that that makes me getting a little nostalgic. I don't know why. So you like it because it is goofy, not because it's like good.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I like the, I like looking at that miniature, right? And I like the fact that, that upper turret is like directly above his head. And I also like the fact that his knees are directly behind like two bolt rifles jammed in the front. And I'm also wondering how the hell he even gets in and out of that thing. I'm sure some part like collapses. It's so funny to me.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I don't know. There's a certain level of like smoking duck gift classic. That's just really goofy about that one. I didn't even notice the rifles at his knees until you said it. Right? It's so dumb. That's so stupid. You also can't swing the turret to shoot left because there's a big antenna right next to the space read on the back.
Starting point is 00:30:29 So if he tries to like lean to the side, he can't, he just can't do it. Like it's a vehicle that can only fly directly forwards or right. And I just don't understand why you would design it that way. He's got to take one hand. He's got to take one hand off the thing so that he can swing it that way. You know, he doesn't. See, when I started playing in seventh edition, these were all the rage, these attack bikes. And the, the original, like, sidecar turret.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Because didn't the Germans use this in World War II? They had, like, the sidecar with the gun. Probably. I think so. Or am I just thinking of Indiana Jones? Well, oh no, we're complaining real history with movies again. There was an old version of that bike, by the way. I don't believe the side of it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Which, funnily enough, is in that catalog. There is one that's even more insane. I was looking at that one originally. So I don't know. The ATV gives me the same vibe as that bike does. I just look at it, I'm like, that's so stupid. That's great. that what chaplains used to look like?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Hey, and the chaplain on bike. Oh, no, those chaplains are rough. Screw that, man. Screw that. Look at the tech marine who's the exact same thing, but he has a big wrench. I just, I saw that chaplain in like his goofy looking like armor and I was like, oh, brother, man, they've gotten a huge glow up since then. Like, God, they are just aura farming in 2026.
Starting point is 00:32:10 but this little fucker, yikes. Waving his little skeleton on a stick around. Yeah, his little skeleton wand, yeah. Also, I do like the fact that for these,
Starting point is 00:32:23 that I feel like the old Judge Dredd influence had not really vanished by this point, had it? No. Oh, the finest.
Starting point is 00:32:33 With the big wing sticking out of the front. It's very, very heavily inspired by it. means like. Yeah. I also would like to point out, uh, I actually, I just realized this.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I'm sure you had one of the, oh, God, sorry, I keep sending the, I keep sending the link instead the picture. Uh, I'm sure you had one of these Kyrioth because I do. Those blood angel dreadnoughts, I have two of them and they're pure metal and you can kill a motherfucker with that thing. It is like a, it's like a five pound weight and you can like, be, like, be. like beat someone to death with that Punisher style. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:33:14 The old, like the old metal space Marine dreadnought and the chaos space marine dreadnought, um, they, they both, you put that in a sock, you hit someone, that person is dead, 100%.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Doesn't even really matter where. Just the sheer weight of it will do the job. It's, like carrying them around. An experience. Not to be forgotten. Especially if you like, get it out.
Starting point is 00:33:40 forgetting which thing, like I used to carry a lot of my stuff around in like a toolbox that had been all like phoned out and stuff to try and keep stuff safe. And if I was not paying attention and just put my hand in to get, you know, whatever out, because the whole army would just live in there, I would have usually like two types of experience with the metal dreadnoughts. I'd either spike my hands really badly on the horrible pewter spike sticking out of the top of it. Or I would feel, I would feel like, two types of experience with the metal dreadnors. I'd either spike, I'd either spike, I'd either spike, I would wheel around, think I'm picking up one thing, go to pick it up, and then be like, literally shocked at the weight of it and be like, what, oh yes, the dreadnought, isn't it? I do not have a Resident Thunderhawk. That, good Lord. I love the banner on that thing.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Did the banners ever come like pre-painted? Because I know sometimes they do, a lot of times they don't. I've seen a lot of people do like the custom paint jobs. I think you just said they, don't. So somebody just hand-painted that shit? Like that? Yeah. If I recall correctly. The only thing I ever remember painting, or that came painted, in a sense, were those Necron green tubes that you put in the warriors.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Oh, man. Those were controversial, I remember. Were they? The hell is the... Yeah, a lot of people, especially in like the club that I play, in. We're just like, what is this children's toy bullshit? This isn't, like, this isn't modeling. This is, like, glowing green plastic. If you can't paint it, why is it on there? There was a lot of that,
Starting point is 00:35:22 which was only sort of really shifted by universal hatred for the towel when they showed up. But, like, there was definitely a thing of, like, what the hell is this? Also, talking about like, earlier with the, like, having a metal piece on a plastic model, the Necron
Starting point is 00:35:38 heavy destroyer, it had a metal cannon, like a, was it the heavy gouse cannon? Something like that, but it was like double the length of a normal gauce rifle. And it was metal that you put the green tubes into. But the problem is, as we've already discussed, the metal, especially when it's like long and thin, is soft as hell. So every heavy destroyer that I ever saw, including the three that I built, looked like absolute shit, because the guns were like wavy.
Starting point is 00:36:10 they had like a pattern, like a curve and various dips in them. Absolutely atrocious. And they also didn't sit well on the flying stand after that either because there was a lump of metal on one corner of the miniature, which is not great for balance. So that is really, really goofy still. Yeah, I always wanted them to put in like a, like either a transfer sheet or a sticker of those like really cool,
Starting point is 00:36:40 like banner images. You gotta do it yourself. Or someone will put that landspeeder in a sock and hit you with it. Because that was also metal. If you leave it to me, it's going to be blank. Yes. So I have that Locus Destroyer miniature. I have the big green tubes.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And I also have one of those old, oh, no, I don't have one of those old landspeers. I have the one that probably came out like a few years after. But I have one of those as well. I saw a few of those old necrons with the tubes and stuff The tubes I always thought were stupid because they came automatically green But I did always find the tubes to be like endearing as well Like I would never want them back But I do look at my tubes I'm like, how funny
Starting point is 00:37:26 They were something very different And I was just like, you know what? They're trying something new But yeah, that's exactly the one shot like that gun I ate that gun I don't think it looks bad though Oh my gosh Oh, boy. Oh, no. What is that? Hell is that thing. I have not seen that before.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Oh, man. That's bad. That's not great. Again, I'm sure this is a lot of like, oh, yeah, we're used to the 2026 line and looking back at 96 is never going to be an easy thing. But good Lord, that's off. I could be mistaken on this, but I think this is the short-lived, like, there was like a short-lived range of necrons before the necrons had their like big proper full release which was after they sort of evolved from being chaos androids to being their own thing and i believe this is like the in-between time where they weren't chaos androids anymore but they weren't a full like they weren't just like a full plastic release of their own they
Starting point is 00:38:35 weren't like a full army they just had a few different units i think there was a lord of warriors and a destroyer, and I think that was it. But, yeah, that was... I mean, it's different. It's unique. Nothing else in the game looked anything like that. That sure is a reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Also, Necron's used to be Chaos Terminators. Have I just forgotten this little detail that they... Like, before they got their, like, proper, like, um, lore, that they were just, they were just supposed to be robots of chaos? Yeah, like, Chaos Terminators, as in, like, I'll be back, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Their, their army rule that was, like, the funniest thing was always that
Starting point is 00:39:17 reanimation protocols, their army rule used to be called will be back. Yeah, I remember you did tell me about that one, yeah. Like, it was, it was a straight rip off of the Terminator stuff. But, you know, this was, this was what, like the mid-90s or even earlier than that? This is what Terminator was in its heyday. Yep, yeah. I mean, you can sort of. You can sort of trace it to now, kind of.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah, I guess I just didn't realize it was like specifically chaos. I thought it was still more or less the same sort of war in heaven thing, but it was just like, look at us. We ripped off Terminator. I didn't realize it was like a specifically chaos inspired like Delio. Yeah. It's kind of funny. They started out as like chaos and have now become robot space Egyptians. That feels like a weird, a weird pipeline.
Starting point is 00:40:09 and yet somehow they managed it. I've just found, and this is one of my, this is my favorite version of the whirlwind, and I don't care what anyone says. I just don't care. It's, look at the, look at the missile battery on the back of that thing. I mean, that's not awful, right? That missile battery is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, you're right, it is absolutely held together by tape and, like, prayer. Well, definitely prayer. Yeah, definitely prayer. I don't know why, but that, the, the predator tank, that turret looks so weird. I don't know if it's just because the barrel is colored like that. It just strikes me as very strange looking. I don't know if it's because like the gun tip is like, it looks like it should be a little handle that you should like, or like a whistle. It looks strange, specifically just the barrel.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yeah, no, I know what you mean. It's almost like they try to go for a sensible, like, gun size until they got to the end and then just went mental for some reason. Like, it's a really, it's a really odd shape all around. Although, something that I don't think I've ever noticed before is the Sponson's on the side. Them just being like second, like second and third turrets, but turned sideways and just facing out. Outwards looks really weird. Yeah, those ones definitely can't turn all the way right or left, definitely. Bunk right into the side of the town.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But everything else about those looks fine. Like for 96, those look phenomenal. Like, you could run those today and it's fine. I think anyway. Yeah. Yeah, they've aged pretty decent. A lot of the things I think when it comes to vehicles, especially that dates them, is the way. that they're painted in like the promotional material
Starting point is 00:42:09 just because paint has changed so much. It feels like especially for the stuff that we've seen that's painted so far, it's basically how bright can you get this red? It needs to be brighter. You need to keep going. We want the saturation
Starting point is 00:42:26 turned all the way up on this thing and it's combined with, you know, old cameras, kind of eye-bleedy in some in some areas. Definitely. I was going to you can really see it on that Blood Angels Predator Tank
Starting point is 00:42:41 because like for like if I just casually look at it I lose the turrets on the side and I'm just like I can't see them. It's so red and saturated I just like where did the turrets go? Also it has this thing where like every single thing that any of the space marines ever wanted to do
Starting point is 00:43:01 there's so much yellow there's so much yellow in all of the space marines and the orcs and stuff. It's like blue trimmed with yellow, red trimmed with yellow. It's just like it's so, so bright. I mean, I'm not, I like, I like some, oh God, yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:20 yeah, yeah, speaking of, there's a lot more yellow. Hey, look, there's, there sure is. Hey, look, another Marnius Calgar. And true, like Shai said, vehicles will generally age a little better because they don't have a noticeable face. So it's a lot harder to like, you know, judge say,
Starting point is 00:43:42 you know, Marinius Calgar in 96 versus, you know, his 2025 release. And his 2024 release. And don't forget his 2023 release. True. He got a lot to compare.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Those banners look so good, though. I'm just like, God. Somebody just went to town and painted those. Like, man. I can't imagine doing that much yellow on Ragnar's flag. I mean, God damn. Especially considering, like, paints back in the day were not paints like we've got now. They just, they just weren't.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And getting that smooth a finish on that yellow, I don't care if you're a professional painter or not. That's basically wizardry considering what they have access to. God, damn. Well, if you look real close to that picture, I don't know how smooth that finish is, but. that's a pretty damn good job. It's going to say, we can't even zoom in that much, and the camera taking the picture is probably, well, it was also old. So I've just realized that there's some gray knights in here.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And this is making me rethink. I, honestly, I think I completely blanked how old gray knights are. Wait, they, they're using custodian guardian spears. Oh God, they are, aren't they? I mean, that is also important. The ones on the bottom, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Yeah. That's weird. That's, that's confused. I mean, I know like the Death Watch Watch Watchmaster uses one too, but it's kind of like a, that's his weird thing because they use weird stuff. But yeah, that that is like nearly a one-for-one custodian guardian spear. Yep. It's to change it up to be the new halberds they have now. I was going to say they don't look that bad.
Starting point is 00:45:38 It's kind of hard to tell. Yeah, when they're all, like, great out in metal, yes. I mean, yeah, they look fine. There's nothing that's like, that stands out as like, holy hell, look at how old those are other than the metal part and one of them having a custodian spear. Otherwise, it's like, yeah, it's fine. Yeah, it probably's replaced them with those halberds later. Mm-hmm. The medic at the top as well.
Starting point is 00:46:02 The space marine bike medic. I love, I love how every bike character is just having the same. same pose carrying something in their arm, whether it's a chaplain thing or a big wrench or a chain sword. God damn. Look, if it works, if it works, you just, you just got a, yeah, the giant wrench is the best one. It's right.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I love the giant. Yeah, that's engineer gaming for sure, Shire. Engineer game. 100%. Oh, so I want to see some ancient elder Harlequins. Yes, yes, I do. Do they look any different than current elder Harlequins? I would say yes.
Starting point is 00:46:40 No, they do. Actually, they do. Yep, never mind. Okay, can we... Just a tiny bit different. Can we direct our attention to the bottom left guy, second from the bottom with the two pistols, stanced up like a madman with his trench coat?
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yes. What a baller. Not bad. You know what? That's the one that needs the upscale rework that that chaos guy got. Give that one the upgrade treatment immediately. That is solid. I genuinely unironically really like that.
Starting point is 00:47:15 That is the best one out of the bunch for sure. What's going on with that third one from the left at the top? Like with the, what's, what, with like he's got a, he's got a pistol in one hand, I guess a spear arm.
Starting point is 00:47:30 What is he, and he's waving his hands in the air. He's waving him like he just don't care. What's he doing? What is he doing? It's not important. It's not important. So he's got the sleeve.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's got like the stripy clown sleeve. I don't know why. That feels weirdly impressive. He just looks so strange. The faces on some of them are so big compared to the rest of the world. Not all of them, but some of them are, wow. They have a big head syndrome, yeah. Absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Since it's the same catalog, chaos marines, I just want to point out that the thousand sons, the noise marine. And the noise marine absolutely solid. They both look great.
Starting point is 00:48:28 That thousand sun looks basically more or less unchanged. I mean, the death guard, some of them, like the top right one is basically the same just, uh, they've, they re-slubbed or unshubbed it. You know, he's just,
Starting point is 00:48:43 he's just bigger and, and, and, and, you know, grosser. It's super interesting how some of these have got like, really,
Starting point is 00:48:51 really out of date poses. Like, they just look just really derpy. And, and why you, why are you standing like that? There's no reason to stand like that in any situation, let alone in the middle of a fight.
Starting point is 00:49:05 but then we've also got things like that that thousand sun model it's the same pose dude it's the same pose and everything it just looks normal and it doesn't look stupid so yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 00:49:21 it's got absolutely no neck no neck these metal minis photograph like shit we've been looking at these metal minis and they're just so fucking grainy and awful and hard to see. In 96 it must have been an absolute crapshoot
Starting point is 00:49:41 as to what you were getting like. I think that looks like what I... Yeah, fuck it. We'll roll the dice. Jesus. These things are brutal. And we're looking at it. I'm looking on like a good monitor. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:57 God, these... I'm sticking with chaos. Got some plastic world eaters. You know, I was all sad not to see The Walleater in that one, though. We'll sad about that. Yeah, this, this, I mean, this must have been the, the, the box before the box that lasted for the next 20 or 25 years. Oh, God, I forget.
Starting point is 00:50:19 What's the Wally, the World Eater meme? I know we've talked about it and I have forgotten it. What, what is, what is the meme again with Wally? He's just a very old miniature, uh, for world eaters that has been in like the same world leader boxes for God knows how long as a berserker and he just has, has this funny face. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure Kiroth can post it,
Starting point is 00:50:39 but, yeah, yeah, but regardless, I know we talked about it and, yeah, okay. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:46 there he is. Yeah, with the, with the, with the, yeah, I was gonna say he kind of looks like he's like,
Starting point is 00:50:52 embedded with a skull or something. Yeah. He's good. He's like, well, yeah, he has a head. Of course he's got a skull. That's,
Starting point is 00:51:02 anyway. The teeth. It's just the teeth. poor lad. He's had those teeth for so long, only to be, only to be replaced. I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:13 he's, he's kept them pretty well. He's, he's maintained them quite well. Is he just a berserker? Is he like a special berserker? No, it's just a normal guy.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's just one of the helmet options. It's just some random schnuck with a weird helmet. It's so weird. Oh, my God. I've just noticed a squeak catapult. and it's exactly what it sounds like. Oh my God, it's a huge catapults. It is exactly what it sounds like you're right.
Starting point is 00:51:51 It is, it is what it says on the tin. It is. I saw a tractor cannon and I was like, well, that's probably going to look pretty pedestrian. And then I realized that squig catapult was at the end of it. And I was like, I mean, it can go one of two ways, right? It can either be a big technological, thing with a squig being sucked into it or it's just going to be a catapult. I'm so happy that it's just a catapult.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah. Also, again, not to beat a dead horse, but trying to figure out what that squatty little metal mini is in that picture is like, what is it? It's just dark. What is it? Catapult is not with a king. Yeah, that's how you know it's orky because it's just a normal catapult. but with a gay
Starting point is 00:52:36 with some sort of angry egg in the end of it apparently tractor cannon not a sea inside yeah tractor and canon
Starting point is 00:52:47 no seas must be or also I god I love the orc stuff from around here because you've also got the war track
Starting point is 00:52:56 and the scorcher both of which I had at one point no no no no no stop stop with your words the pulsar rocket
Starting point is 00:53:03 oh yeah Yeah. I thought the image was cut off and I realized no, it's just the ramshackle like thing that they put on to fire. This is just the Death Strike missile launcher, but like caveman era. Also, I love, I love that Kira was in the middle of something. And Prick, he's like, stop with your words. Look at the thing.
Starting point is 00:53:29 He was saying too many words. We needed to talk more about the pulsar rocket. Hell yeah, we did. Look at that. It's just the greatest way to interrupt. Stop with your words immediately. He was, he had saying too many things that were not engaging in talking about the pulsar rocket. Man went full order.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Hell yeah. They've got a bunch of two by fours. There's some nails and a hammer and a dream. And they kind of launched that rocket. no matter what happened. Mm-hmm. Modern. What, that doesn't suck.
Starting point is 00:54:11 That's in the same spirit, right? You know what? I'm with her on this one. That's, it's not the same. Yeah. It lacks the charm. It lacks the charm of the original. Y'all just want three pieces of metal.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I want a crate that's been balanced on another crate with a big bomb on of it. That's all I'm looking for and that's not what they're delivering. And as such, not interested. Shy, virgin technology replaced Chad tradition. Nice. Shy. Nice. It's so true. Oh, God. Christ. Serious, I just realized there's something here that I've never seen before, which I know Shai is going to shout at me about, but I don't think I've ever seen Mad Boys before.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Oh, huh. They are mad. There's some poses in there. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen those. Oh my God, the way that they package these up as well, package two miniatures per blister. I'll be honest. You can say what you like about how much games workshops stuff costs nowadays,
Starting point is 00:55:26 but I don't miss getting two models per blister pack and having to buy a bunch of them. Let's be honest, getting 10 lads in a box, far more, far more convenient. Yeah. God, two minis per blister is wild. Yeah, that's not much.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I love the poses. What is the guy in the top right doing? What is that? He's doing a little stepy. Just dancing his way down the battlefield. Also, I'm fairly sure top left has just pissed himself. That's all it looks like to me.
Starting point is 00:56:10 It's hard to tell what's going on. Actually, wow, you're right. Boy. These are not great photos of these minis. Man, these are just, holy shit. It feels like a very odd mix of both under and overexposed.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I just feel like the contrast is just round way too high because some parts are so dark you don't know what's going on. And some parts just so light, you don't know what's going on. And I feel like that's kind of impressive. Yeah, I mean, like I said, if I was buying something from this catalog, it's just like, I, I, sure, I think that looks like what I want, maybe. Yeah, but it'd be super cheap to buy them.
Starting point is 00:56:56 You just have to buy a lot of the, a lot of the, a lot of the list of price. Or actually, to be fair, just get the whole space or, army. Oh, well, I'll see that. Of course. Why didn't you say so?
Starting point is 00:57:12 It's true. We are also looking at scans of a catalog from 30 years ago. Oh, sorry. It's true. It has been scanned and the quality is, you know, okay, you're right. It's got the ball boys in it as well.
Starting point is 00:57:28 The what? Boar boys are great. Ball boys. Okay, hang on. Oh, bore boys. I thought you said ball boys. I was like, excuse me. me? No, not again. I can't, I've got to stop saying. I heard ball boys as well. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I was looking for something that was noticeably a ball boy and I was like, no, don't see anything. I've got to, uh, I've got to work on those pronunciations. It was, it was bad enough during War of the Beast. Everyone thought I was saying war fist, which is not what I was saying. Those ball boys, man, crazy. You got to have a lot of balls to ride the boar, you know. I actually think those look pretty cool They're a little bit Oh the trash can dreadnought Or no the boars
Starting point is 00:58:18 The dreadnots always look cool But the boars Boers Boers Boars Alright don't hurt yourself Kid You know yeah for
Starting point is 00:58:33 For 1996 Those boars don't look too bad I don't have any problem with them Also like we said that or dread down actually looks great. I still think that that holds up. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's the trash can dread.
Starting point is 00:58:50 The trash can on legs. Yeah, but it's a really funny trash can on legs. Yeah, it's the killer can now, which looks about the same. Yeah. Killer can's really fucking cool, though. Oh, I've, I've, uh, I've just realized. All the killer stuff. I've great.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I, I didn't like. the Eldar War Walker now. But it was definitely arguably worse then. Because that is... Yeah, that's not much better. No.
Starting point is 00:59:25 The dreadnought's fine. Still love the dreadnought, but that Warwalker is rough. It's just what... It just seems insane. It stilts with a seat. And that's just silly. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It kind of, like, the dude on the front, he's got to be. Okay, that's true. Yeah, it's still. I mean, I'm sorry, the War Walker is just terrible. Like, it's just a terrible mini. I have nothing but hatred for the Eldar Warwalker. It sure does make the most recent one look pretty good, though. I mean, it earns the hate.
Starting point is 01:00:12 It just does. It's just not good. Yeah, no. Even the new one is not wonderful. It's, yeah, it's weird. I don't like it. Oh, and talking of Eldar heresy, look what I just discovered. Guardians with Lasguns.
Starting point is 01:00:29 What? Wait, where is it? Oh, wow, yeah, that is Guardians with Las Guns. They do look like Las Guns as well. Yep. That's, that is a choice. I wonder what the background for that was. Do they nick them?
Starting point is 01:00:46 Like what? I mean, steal, why would they steal Imperial Guard technology? They're Eldar. I'm sure it's some reason 30 years ago. Something that probably doesn't hold up to, to scrutiny now.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Eldar guardians use Lasguns primarily in the early additions. Wait a minute. Mass-produced energy weapons. Wait a minute. The very original War Walker is actually so much worse, because that means that that piece of shit inspired the Grey Knight Dreadnights. He's got the same baby harness and everything. Oh, he does.
Starting point is 01:01:27 No. Oh, God. Why? It's the way, there's something just deeply uncomfortable about the way the legs are spayed out there. I just don't like, I just don't like that. It's just not good. It's just, the paint job is pretty nice. But man.
Starting point is 01:01:48 There's just only so much you can polish a turd. It looks so uncomfortable. Yeah. Massively uncomfortable. No, that's not great. Look at that white triangle at his crutch. Yeah, I kind of do look like that. You got the diaper.
Starting point is 01:02:08 You got the diaper going. He do be diapering up. Well, I mean, you know, in the middle of battle, what else you're going to do? He can't just hop off the baby carrier and handle business. Like, you know. I don't think that's the point. Yeah, never mind. Really?
Starting point is 01:02:29 I'm shutting up. I'm being quiet. The realization setting in midword was great. Just move on. The semantics of the diaper on the bee. All right. So what's next? Curia. What's the next cool looking thing?
Starting point is 01:02:53 Should we finish up with some big hats and the classic crab, oh my God, crab claw commissar Yarrick? That's generally quite difficult to say. Hell yeah. I'm just throwing out there. I mean, it's, it is classic. That is literally a crab closet. You were not kidding. That is color and everything.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Yep. Oh, yeah, that's a, that's crab. Like crab. Yeah. Also, if you look, it kind of appears like he's got his other three fingers still in a sort of power fist situation. But it's the, it's like thumb and first finger. That's operating the claw. But the rest are still, you can still use them.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I don't know what for. I'll say that right now. I'm not sure what you could do with those three fingers when the other, like, the logistics are giving me a bit of a, a bit of concern. But the gun. How? Oh my God, with the skeleton thing on it. You're right.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. Also, the laurels look weird on him. Like, I don't know if it's just that hit of green on the white, red, and black, but they don't look, they don't fit. Something about him looks off and it just keeps standing out to me. Something. And I don't know if I'm just crazy. I mean, I am.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I just don't know if I'm crazy about that specifically. I think the shape of the hat, to me, it's more, it kind of looks a bit more pirate than, than, than Commissar from this angle. Oh, yeah, yeah. Also, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they're hats. So they, they remade those miniatures. And they're actually pretty similar. They just look way, way, way better. But the hats, same hats, just, just a little smaller, little, little, little, little, a little smaller.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Yeah, they definitely scaled down the, I think he said the hatage. What does that even mean? Sorry, D.K., go on. Oh, no, that's fine. For 95, those horses actually look quite good in that sculpt. Those are horse assholes. That's not bad.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Those are, those are horses. Those aren't like weirdly deformed horses. Those are just solid horses, actually. They are, yeah, they're not bad, are they? I think also, although mind you, I've just noticed, I think three of them are the same horse, pretty much. But you know what? You don't need to sculpt five horses.
Starting point is 01:05:32 It's fine. You can see, though, in this promotional image in their catalogue, the Rough Rider with the standard, wonky as hell already. That is already, that's already been bent, and it's had to be reformed and reshaped. that's that is not straight and that's the picture they're using to sell it
Starting point is 01:06:00 and if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about working with Games Workshop metal from around this area I mean it tells you everything doesn't it really yeah well don't have to worry about that now
Starting point is 01:06:16 no true look how far G-dub has come from weird metal bendable whatever that what they got now, right? It's a, words. I don't know where I was going with that.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Damn right. Damn right, son. Yeah, I agree with whatever the fuck he just said. Listen, don't, don't make me swing this back to the diaper on the baby carrier, all right?
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'll turn this fucking ship around. That's all right. We already got a baby carrier now. The Grey Knights have it. It's true. They stole it from them. Oof. All the things you could steal.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I'm just going to say, give it back. Feel free at any time to give it back. We won't mind. We really won't. It's not a problem. Also, man, heavy boulders used to be heavy, didn't they? Like, oh, sorry, I'm not throwing the image in because whatever. It's just a link.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But, like, they got to carry that shit on their shoulder, and it's, like, bigger than they are. Yep, yep. Like, God damn. I like that era of that era of devastating Marines because it's just mental all the way through no matter what the weapon is
Starting point is 01:07:38 it goes on the shoulder. Is it a rapid fire gun? Goes on the shoulder. Is it a single shot? Goes on the shoulder. Does it fire plasma? Goes on the shoulder. We can't go on the shoulder.
Starting point is 01:07:51 What else is supposed to do? Man, that is, that is a, very serious case of like, yeah, only a space marine can use a heavy boulter. Only a space can use a LAS cannon. Because imagine a human, one human trying to fire that heavy boulter. The fact that the heavy boulter is like basically bigger than the person carrying it and the person is a space marine does make it pretty cool, to be fair. Yeah, it is. That is a cool vibe. But holy. They had the Lascan There's some Megatron shit going on too
Starting point is 01:08:24 I love that Foof Yeah We're hammered We've come just a smidge Distance since 95 Don't tell me how many years ago That was I don't want to do the math
Starting point is 01:08:40 I don't want to know Hey man this was 96 for your information I was alive Yeah see it's not that long ago That's I was gonna say Ricky was alive. That was forever. Yeah, I was, hey, I was alive in 90, in, in 96. In 95, we're going to have to do some math.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Oh, no. Jesus Christ. I don't want to, I don't want to do math. Hey, you can't start, you can't start Jesus Christing me when, when I'm 30. All right, all right. There's no, there's no winning this battle anymore. We're all going down. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, yep. I mean, I think. Well, yeah, Bricky, you're the youngest one on the podcast probably. Actually, well, yeah, we don't know shy. We don't know shy. But the way she acts, she flip-flossed between being a zoomer and an elderly woman with a gun.
Starting point is 01:09:35 So, you know, God knows where we're at that one. Let's just say I have the most childlike wonder and speech. Sure. Sure, buddy. Sure. And references. I don't know. Definitely with the references.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Well, all the SpongeBob anyway. Yeah. We're old. You all, you all. You're disingenuous. No, I was pretty genuine about that, actually. D.K., you made a SpongeBob reference before we started recording. You can't be pulling that out.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, but I was really proud of myself. I was so, so proud of myself. You knew so. You got me. Wow. All right, do we have any other ones we're going to look at? Or did you say that we are closing it out after the last one? Well, aside from the badass art that Shire has posted in.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Oh, that is sick, actually. I mean, it's pretty damn good. Oh, that's, yeah, that's like classic 40K art. That is, that's the good stuff. That's the backbone and foundation of Warhammer, right? We love some good John Blanche shenanigans, if that is, that is. I said she's not sure if it's John Blanche.
Starting point is 01:10:55 That might not be John Blanche. Yeah, that's, but it's, I mean, he was the foundation of it all. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Heck yeah. Hell yeah. Well, a good, a good time to look at 30-year-old miniatures as we've, we've hit 19, or 20, 26, all the way from back when. You know, hilariously, I think yesterday or a couple days ago, they put on pre-order the brand new miniatures that come out. And so we're starting off, we're starting off 2026, interesting,
Starting point is 01:11:25 with Titus and his gaggle of idiots, a brand new Necron Destroyer character and the brand new immortal Titus. Yeah. The never dying Titus. I had some, do you, Keirot, did you know that Titus and his gang is 94 US? Is that good or bad? Which, that's, it's 70 pounds, Sterling. For Titus and his little gaggle of morons, it's actually insane that it's, oh, it's almost a hundred.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Gilliman costs less money. I like that it's Titus and his gaggle of idiots. I'm actually a little pissed off about it, though, because I, I'm considering, like, I'm considering getting them so I can get the little human dudes for my, for my, for my, for my, Hero Guard Army, but I also want to vote in my wallet. That being said, the new Nightbringer is coming out also. And that's, that's an instant pick. I'm sorry, I got to pick that boy up. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:12:30 What is it? Why is this shot? How many, how many minis do you get with Titus and his gaggle of idiots? Is it just Titus and like a human? It's Titus, Gadriel, uh, not Chiron. Sergeant Vataris, I think is his name. And then four human. people. So it's seven minis total for $100.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Yeah, that's kind of brutal, isn't it? That is kind of a brutal price. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, that's not good. I mean, I mean, shit, man. But still, that's, that's a lot. No, no, Kyrioth.
Starting point is 01:13:04 His little gaggle of morons is insane. There are 20 wounds because every human character has three wounds and the big boys have four. And they're 90 points. 90. That seems That seems quite low It's very low It's like the entire package
Starting point is 01:13:27 Is probably gonna cost you like Maybe 200 No sorry no no no it's not right Maybe like 150 160 And so you get like 20 ablative wounds And then the immortal undying Titus And then you could stick them with like six blade guard It's
Starting point is 01:13:42 It's actually like not okay I was going to Did they miss a number off the front of it or something maybe Maybe they're supposed to be a one In front of that somewhere They were like, oh, we forgot You can buy You can buy seven plague marines for 60 bucks
Starting point is 01:14:00 But Titus and his gang is a hundred It's ridiculous On the bright side, they look great They look pretty good They look fantastic And so does the new Necrone stuff I know What is that?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Is that just, is that destroyer? Yeah, it's a destroyer character. He's named too. He's like a, he's like an actual person. Necrosol Amintal. Yeah. I think he wants to like revive the like the nightbringer. That's why it's a new model. And he's like, yeah, go kill Ultramar. Yeah. He's basically insane. And he's like, I want to, I want to, I want to bring, want to bring him back. It's, is, also like, supposed to be the origin of the, of the, of the destroyer virus as well. So that's why. Oh, the destroyer virus. Yeah, yeah. There was some statement revolving around that where like he either started it or he like helped make it or something like that. Because I know it isn't the start of the, it isn't the start of the Flayvon virus because that's Lendigel, the flayer. Yeah, that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:15:10 He's got an ability called infectious murder madness, which sort of tells you everything. need to know about the guy. Yeah, reminds me, like, these sculpts of, like, Necron's always remind me of, um, I don't know if it was in the original Judge Dredd, but the Judge Red was Sylvester Stallone that had that, uh, decommissioned robot
Starting point is 01:15:29 that they revive and bring back and he's got that really big face and shit. Oh, shit. Terrible movie, but just such a cult classic. And that, that face on the Necron's always reminds me of that guy. Movie is awesome. I mean, like I said, I'll watch it
Starting point is 01:15:45 because it's entertaining, but like, I don't know if it's like, I don't know if I'd say it's a good movie, but it's like, it's like a, it's a cult classic, it's fine. I'll, I'll watch it. It's just, I don't think it's a great. Just not by choice.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Sit down. It's aesthetically really cool. It's just, you know, it's a Sylvester Stallone action flick. You know what you're getting into. But yeah, I don't know which one inspired which, but I guess it doesn't matter. I like the aesthetic.
Starting point is 01:16:12 It's a good vibe. It's a cool mini. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, also. Also, Necron's stay. winning again. Yeah. For the, for the, for the, I don't even know how many, how many in time.
Starting point is 01:16:23 However, if I remember building the silent king, uh, this, this mini is going to be, um, not my favorite. Because the silent, building Illuminaur Zeres and the silent king was an exercise in, in my patience. But anyway, though, I, cheers to, to 2026 and new miniatures. Uh, let's, honestly, I think 20, You know what? We should think about doing a year in review.
Starting point is 01:16:51 You know, I would like to go through all the releases that came out in 2025 and, and look to like a roundtable. I think that'd be kind of fun. That would be fun. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then we can get to the Blood Angels section and then like skip it and then move on. I'd be like we've talked about this several times before.
Starting point is 01:17:07 We all just move on. But, uh, I must say there's, I thought 2025 was a great year for minis outside bloodage. but yeah it's some good stuff don't hey hey shy don't worry about it he's just he's just horizontally he flipped he's looking in a mirror don't worry about it anyway
Starting point is 01:17:25 cheers to the new uh cheers to the new year you

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