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How about you do that?
Maybe I will.
You make it sound like it couldn't have been worse.
It does.
It's fine.
It could have been much worse.
It could have been so tsy.
I,
that, that's, that's pretty good.
That, that's pretty good.
I will give you a solid thumbs up on that.
I thought of that after the last episode, I was like,
damn it, damn it, why didn't I say that?
Damn it.
That's pretty, that's pretty bad.
That's pretty horrid.
I definitely hate that.
Stop it.
Hmm.
Be gone.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
And then read Storm of Iron.
Storm of Iron. Storm of Iron is pretty cool.
So,
So, D.K.
Yeah.
We got a topic today.
Okay.
This topic is, this topic is,
it is one of the episodes
that we're doing.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
One would even consider calling it
an episode.
Uh, that, I mean, dearly beloved, we are gathered here today for an episode.
So, I should hope so.
Could you give me a little, like, I know usually the quotes are a little vague for me, and I don't immediately pick up on them, but this is like next level vague, my guy.
All right. I'll give you, I'll give you a vague quote, all right?
Oh, shit. I was kind of hoping there wouldn't be a quote.
I will, I will give you a vague quote.
Okay.
All right.
To a space marine, the bolt gun is far more than a weapon.
It is an instrument of mankind's divinity.
The bringer of death to his foes, its howling blast a prayer to the gods of battle.
From the teachings of Roebugie, Gurley, is just a bolt gun episode?
Is it just a Boltoar episode?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, that's all it is.
I mean, that wasn't too bad of a quote since you literally said bolt gun in the quote.
So I was genuinely like really hoping you would just completely get it wrong.
Like you would hear the talk about bolters and then you would immediately be like,
well, that seems too obvious.
And then go on this massive tangent of confusion.
That was kind of the goal.
But you just, you just, I misunderstood the directness of your approach.
He did not understand the assignment.
No, he did not.
But yeah, we're just doing a bolter episode.
People can still make fun of me because I said boltor
from like Warframe instead of bolter, you know?
That's, no.
Warframe has already made fun of you enough.
That's fair.
Yeah, that's sad.
Yeah.
You write, though.
You write, though.
But we did an episode on the Humble Asga,
and we never did it an episode on the very loud bolter.
So I thought it'd be kind of fun.
Also, we are recording this on, like, Thursday, the day after the terminus decree episode, because I am going to be gone over the weekend.
So we are recording this really early.
So we wanted a nice, simple episode.
We had a whole bunch of conspiracy theories in the last one.
And this one is just, ah, the bolter.
Yeah.
Not the humble bolter, the bolter.
The almighty bolter.
And it's...
There is very little humble about it.
Yeah, it's what, that's the one that has the soda can-sized bullets?
That's a bit of a, that's, that's a bit too much.
That's not quite the case.
But it's, we'll get there.
So the bolter, the bolter is the main weapon of the space marine, of course.
Of course.
A common misconception is that the bolter was used to kill other space marines.
It was not.
because it was the main weapon utilized in the Horace heresy and beyond.
But as we know, space marines are not meant to kill other space marines.
That is not really their main task.
I remember you telling me about that, how it was actually meant to be as an efficient, sort of fleshy killing machine.
It's not meant for seramite armor.
It's meant for those fleshy losers that are going to get blown into a billion gory pieces by it.
It's much easier when you are deciding to go, bring a world into compliance during the Great Crusade,
and the world is just a bunch of backwater humeys.
And turns out backwater humeys, when shot by weapons held by space marines, don't do so hot.
Yeah.
And those backwater humeys, even if they somehow got hold of a bolter, they can't even use it.
The recoil on this thing would probably blow their arms to pieces.
That's very, very correct.
So a way back whim, there were many kinds of bolters.
For a while, even during the Harris-Heresy Great Crusade era,
a lot of space marines like to use something called a Volkite weapon.
A Volkite weapon is like a beam weapon of some,
kind of like a beam weapon.
It's like a superheated, kind of lazery kind of gum.
But they were really expensive to manufacture,
and the STCs for them were kind of wacky and out of place.
And you know how Mars is.
Yeah, yeah.
I imagine those would be really difficult and expensive to produce.
Yeah, so Volkite weapons are kind of a thing in the past, a nice like a relic from the old age.
It was a time for something, you know, when everything is a, when you have the biggest hammer, everything looks like a nail.
So they decided to give you a much larger, sturdier hammer.
All right, all right.
Would you say a Volkite weapon is, quote, unquote,
quote, stronger than a bolter?
Because it's a ray gun versus essentially, I don't want to say,
it's a fully automatic giant grenade launcher.
I'd say it is, yeah.
The Volkai weapon, I think, is a stronger overall weapon,
if you compare them one to one.
But the bolter is a bit more like punchy and like mass produced,
very easy to produce.
More consistent.
I think if I'm, so we have a ton of fans that are there, servicemen, military, all kinds of things.
We're veterans, et cetera.
And I know that I don't want to get too deep into discussions on firearms because I'm not a very intelligent person when it comes to firearms.
Me too.
But I think, I remember, I look back in the day, I, one of my favorite guns of all time in any video game ever was the SCAR-H.
in modern warfare too.
Oh, I've seen games that
have the scar. I know that gun.
You know the scar.
I know the scar.
People don't like the scar, because the scar's got
like a funny, like, ugg boot
kind of, kind of stock
on it and the whole thing.
I was sort of cool and sleek and
punchy. You didn't see that. You didn't see
nothing. Oh, Epic in bed,
fail, laugh at this user.
He tried to show me a picture of the scar, and he
failed miserably.
Everyone's point and laugh.
So the scar, there it is,
is, I think it's a very pretty
looking gun. I like it a lot.
But it's, it is,
if I'm not mistaken, very expensive
to make.
And so, you know,
it's like, oh, this gun is so much better than
say the M4,
why isn't it used by
everybody? It's like, well, it's because
logistics and money are a thing that
exist. Yeah, especially in more time.
Like, you really have to think about money and logistics during a war that you're fighting.
I think, like, the Stend gun, the one like the British, you just had this horrible wirestock that was so ugly, but they, they shit that thing out.
Like the Sherman tank, they just produce those things on mass.
Wow, the British thing is very ugly, you say.
I would have never guessed.
Or you get.
Oh, you get?
I'm a good.
I'm a beautiful, I'm a beautiful green boy.
Everyone knows green's the best.
Anyway, the bolt gun is the widely produced one.
Now, the thing is, though, is that comparing it to a lasgun is also unfair.
Because a lasgun actually is cheaper, breaks down less, requires less maintenance, and is overall just a significantly more reliable weapon.
But it's a lasgun and it's held by squishy humeys.
I was going to say, we're comparing a, we can't really compare Lasgun and Bolter.
I mean, it's a flashlight versus an absolute monster of a weapon that the Astardis use.
I mean, that's not really a great comparison.
Is it like you can't, that's apples and oranges.
Yeah, that's exactly why the Lasgun is held by a lot of the militarum because it needs to be carried on mass and fired by, oh, I don't know, teenagers.
Yeah.
and cleaned by teenagers.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So, now let's get into the actual thing of the Balkan,
because the bolter has been used all the way back during the unification wars.
I mean, even the Thunder Warriors used the bolter way back when.
And then, you know, nothing happened to the Thunder Warriors.
They lived forever.
They're cool.
Oh, yeah, they retired in peace and prosperity,
and they're just, you know, chilling, drinking mitis on a beach on some backwater planet that no one knows about.
Exactly.
They certainly didn't all get it.
wiped out by Biggie or anything for being
you know.
Temperamental.
So the Bolter is
a 75 caliber
weapon.
Now you might think to yourself of a 50
caliber, you know,
Barrett 50 Cal,
Desert Eagle, the really big
thick one. So this is 75.
It's got a, it's 50% larger.
They're not called Eagles.
They're Deagles. It's a desert eagle. Isn't that what
it, doesn't that what Deagle means? Desert Eagle,
isn't it?
Yeah, but that's, it's a good.
That's not the actual name.
That's a shortened name.
No, that's not.
Dufus?
That's the better name is Degal.
I don't know.
How about you do?
Actually, Ricky, it's supposed to.
Don't, you shut.
I don't think you know what you're talking about there, Ringing.
I can't believe they let you dual wield desert eagles in the old con.
Like, like that thing is awful.
Anyway.
Yeah.
It has such a, it has so much kick to it that there's no way you could dual wheel the
D eagle, right?
Not rely, or whatever.
It doesn't matter.
You have a topic.
Fair enough.
The bolter.
The bolter.
It is slightly shorter in length than an overall last gun, but it's far larger in
overall mass.
And it's also stockless.
It has no stock in the back.
Now, the main bolter used by the Astardis is the Mark 5B Godwin pattern bolt gun.
Also known as the Godwin bolter or Godwin bolt gun.
Oh, I don't know the standard one had a name other than just it's the bolter.
And then I thought it went from there to like the storm bolter and stuff like that.
I didn't realize the base one was a Godwin Mark 4 bolter thing.
Well, Godwin Mark 5B pattern bolter is the full name of the most widely used bolter around.
But there are tons of other patterns as well and types of bolters to go along with it.
there are smaller patterns as well carried by the adeptus sororitus, some high-ranking members of the Astromilitarum, and sometimes even the Arbides as well.
But they're all like smaller overall weapons, obviously.
They don't have the same punch.
Right, because a sister or a militararm person can't handle a full-size bolter.
You've got to really like downsize the hell out of it so they don't, you know, kill themselves shooting it.
Right. And even like, even Militarim people and Arbis, people struggle a bit with their bolters.
The sisters don't struggle as much because they have power armor.
And their sisters. And their sisters. But, well, sisters are just regular humeists.
Like, like Militaram people, they just happen to have power armor on.
Oh, true, true. And they're trained up pretty hard. So, yeah.
But the main, like, Marine one is that Godwin one.
These are pretty high-level weapons.
They have a magazine number on the external display that is connected to the Space Marine's helmet showing the remaining shots.
It carries 30 rounds in a mag, and it can also be fired in single, burst, fully automatic, whatever you really want.
Though even for a Space Marine, firing this thing in full auto mode is just not the greatest idea.
I mean, if you need to clear out a crowd, though, that'll...
Sure.
That'll do it.
Even with the space marines armor, like it has no stock.
So you're really bracing it with nothing but your arms and your core and your legs.
And it can still kick.
It's generally better fired in bursts or single shot because space marines have an internal
targeter in the bulk gun that's linked to their auto senses in their helmet and body
to make their accuracy just ridiculously on point.
So why even bother spraying when he could go pit, pit, pip, pip, pip.
Pip, pip, pip, pip, and just get a shot kill every single shot.
That's true.
And every bolter round is going to be kind of a little mini-expulsion anyway.
So, yeah, there's probably no real reason to full out of that thing.
At least not unless you have particular targets that really need it.
Yeah.
I guess if it's like a really fast target and you're not really sure you're going to hit him,
like if you're fighting a, what is it, Eldari Banshee?
Sure.
Yeah, howling Banshee.
Or just Eldar in general, maybe.
Yeah, true.
Because, I mean, you know, you got to fire as fast as you can to maybe hopefully catch up to the damn thing.
Yeah, because they're all lieth and nimble and do their front flips and backflips and flip flips.
And howl at you and, you know.
Yeah, and go...
Yeah, and go...
E!
E!
But, um, the, so the Bolter itself has all that extra stuff linked to the Space Marines helmet.
Things that the smaller patterns that are held by the Militarum, Arbides, and, uh, assistant.
don't, well, no, sisters have a lot of that stuff in their helmet visors as well,
but they're just not big enough to carry and operate the Godwin pattern bulk gun.
Yeah, but they still have all the fancy mechanical targeting stuff in their helmet,
which is nice.
Right.
And the thing is about the bulk gun is that you got to look at it a lot from the point of view
of what the space marines are.
If space marines are shock troops, you deploy them really fast and they complete a mission,
they blow through an objective incredibly fast,
get to the leaders,
kill them.
Like,
they are not a war of attrition,
which is actually one of the main reasons
why you give the Las gun to the,
to the civilians of the,
or the Imperial Guard.
Because they are the war of attrition ones.
Yeah, the fights that the guard work with are long,
sometimes year-long wars.
They need a weapon that doesn't need much time to clean.
And you just, you just assemble it, rub it down a little bit, say a couple prayers and put it back together.
And, you know, those Las packs last a while.
They're small, easy to carry.
It's light.
Yeah.
The Las is like, what, the AK?
It's just, it's all reliable.
It'll always do you in a pinch.
And it doesn't break down.
You can drag it through water.
You can do whatever.
It's reliable.
And it might not be the strongest thing on the planet, but, you know, it's faithful.
And it's mass produced.
Yeah, yeah, yep, cheap to make too.
Cheap and reliable.
The perfect weapon for.
As opposed to the bulk gun, which requires a ton of maintenance to keep it going.
Lots of prayers, of course.
You got to make your prayers.
Oh, of course.
And you can only carry a couple extra rounds of ammo for because the magazines are so heavy.
Oh, yeah, there would be huge.
I don't really think about that.
But yeah, the magazines for that.
thing must be absolutely gargantuan. I mean, if it's a mag for a bolter, you know, you have to think of a 30-round
mag of 50 caliber bullets in the current day and age, and then up that to 75 caliber bullets,
and then add a little bit more weight on there for the hell of it. Yeah, that's not something
you're just going to be carrying around on your belt, just willy-nilly. Yeah, I've got like,
I've got a belt full of these things. It's like, no, probably not. Now, so they only carry a couple
extra mags the space marines do.
But that's because their job is so
well, it's shock troop
base. They get in and they just
immediately slam into a target
and don't leave them any room to get out.
Also, space marines are...
They should need all those extra ones with how
their operations usually go.
Plus, space marines are
very adept in close combat, so
we can always add that to it as well.
Yep. So,
the Godwin Bolter itself is actually so
large and cumbersome for regular humans that firing it is hard enough as it is, but it would most
likely rip their arm from their socket if they'll foot the recoil. So what's interesting, though,
is the types of ammunition a bolter has. So there's a lot of goddamn ammunition for this weapon,
a lot. There's more than just the standard, like, chunky, grenade launcher round thing.
Oh, my friend. Oh, my friend. Oh, my friend.
Have I read a book or seen a thing that's shown them using a different type of ammo?
Because I am genuinely surprised by that.
I don't think we actually have read a book that involves that.
Or I can't pinpoint on top of my head.
But Death Watch are actually one of the groups that uses a lot of different kinds of ammo.
We haven't done an episode on them yet.
Oh, they probably would want different ammo since they're always going up against weird Zenos and stuff.
So obviously I mentioned before
The bolter ammo is a 0.75 rocket propelled round
The bolt itself or even the smaller
Or sorry, the bolt itself is self-propelled
With integrated solid fuel propellant
It's like a very small rocket, very small RPG
Oh, so the rounds have fuel in them?
Is that what you're telling me?
A little bit.
Oh, that's...
I don't know why that seems so weird to me.
It's like, yeah, get a little gas canister for each little bullet, you know.
So the thing is, though, is that if you were to do that inside the barrel,
it would often warp it pretty heavily and cause a lot of problems to the gun.
So what it is is actually a two-stage firing sequence.
You pull the trigger, and then in the gun, a tiny charge is used to force the bolt out of the muzzle
and ignite its propellant.
So once the bulk gets kind of like pinged out of the muzzle,
it then explodes and then flies at the enemy.
Of course...
Oh, that's kind of cool, actually.
It's a little hard, of course, to be fully like...
To fully understand it from when it's being fired
at such a fast rate and to see all the different effects of it.
But basically it is get it out there
and then send it forward
just at a very fast speed.
Oh, so when it initially gets propelled out,
a second explosion happens
to really make it fom-p?
Yeah, you know, like,
you know when they fire like a javelin?
You know the javelin missile launchers,
the one that goes really high in the air
and then back down?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They normally, like, the rocket comes out,
goes like flink and then it ignites.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not the greatest example,
but like this is kind of that way on a very small scale.
Yeah.
Wow.
So it's like a small scale like rocket launcher.
Well,
I guess that's always kind of been the notion of the bolter.
It's like it's a small scale like grenade rocket launcher, right?
Like it's kind of a pseudo RPG.
Kind of not really, but yeah.
It also makes the sound.
Right.
It also makes the sound of the gun absolutely thunderous.
It is loud as shit.
Because you would hear two explosions, right?
You hear the thump-poof!
It's more just like the giant...
I mean, it's not long enough between the explosions.
It probably all sounds at one, because it's just a fast sequence.
But, God, it's just, it's a crack.
It is a thunder clap with each shot.
Which is kind of part of the whole thing.
The space Marines are meant to be terrifying.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
They should have a terrifying weapon, and they do.
Well, all their weapons are terrifying,
even if it's just like a melee...
sword.
So this is what the bolt
like shell looks like for the most
part. Whoa.
The one is
the propellant base era, of course.
The two is the
outer casing containing the
charge. Three is a
stabilizer. Four is
a mass reactive fuse.
So this is what makes the
bulk gun particularly god damn
disgusting.
Because the six there is the main
charge itself.
Yeah.
And the five is a hardened tip.
So this is entirely meant to penetrate the target it hits and then a millisecond afterwards
then explode.
Oh, that's nasty.
So it's like, okay, if you're going to shoot at a regular, fleshy, chaos cultist,
it'll bury itself in their chest cavity for a split second and then blow up and just
take the entire upper half of them off.
Oh, that's gnarly.
That's, oh, that's nasty.
That is, that is a deviously conceived weapon.
It is meant to, it is the reason why very often you will see, uh, regular humans and other people just explode when they're shot with this thing.
It's because it varies slightly.
Yep.
So how, how strong is that tip?
Like, I, I know.
These things are not meant to fight space marines at all,
but oftentimes you probably will,
especially when you're fighting camp.
Like, could this thing, like, penetrate into ceramite?
Penetrate into ceramite, not really,
but it'll make a good dent.
Yeah, and then it'll explode.
Yeah.
Right.
And then it'll explode after that.
So it'll be like, bang, explosion.
Tiny explosions, of course.
They're not gigantic explosions.
Right.
But when it hits you,
I mean, it's going to hurt.
I think there's actually an image, I remember, of an imperial fist.
Oh, here it is.
I don't know if this is accurate.
It might not be, take this is a grain of salt.
But I like this image.
I think this is supposed to be Horace Harris-Hara.
Maybe.
I could be wrong.
But I think some of those chunks out of his armor are from multiple bolt shells hitting him.
Damn.
So, like, it.
It can take a little bit here and there.
It could be fan art.
It could be something else.
But that's kind of my head cannon a bit on how it hits.
It'll chip away at the Saramite, but it's not like you're going to break through.
I mean, unless you just unload a whole damn clip of bolter rounds on one specific spot, chances are you're not getting through.
You'll chip away at it, but yeah.
Right.
But like also, Space Supreme Power Armor is not particularly inventive.
Uh, space marines are so fast and so powerful that often users can't land the right shots,
but there are lots of areas like in between the servos and like under the armpit or like
those connecting areas that have cables and stuff.
That's how generally how Las guns and stuff take down space marines is that with enough fire
in the right sensitive spots, you might be able to take one down.
But, you know, normally you don't get that chance because you're either dead before he,
you see him or you're about to be.
Yeah, chances are you won't live long enough to have focusing fire on a weak point.
Right, because it's a space marine for God's six.
And if you're fighting a space marine and all of you got are a bunch of lasguns, chances are
you're not long for this world.
No.
So that's, and then you think like, okay, that's cool.
He's got a 30-round mag of this and then, and probably like five more.
So you can tear through a lot of people, especially fleshy things, real quick.
Yeah, definitely.
So as for other types of ammunition, there are a shitload.
But some of the ones that I see a lot of are the Death Watch ones, which are the Cracken Penetrator, Inferno, and Hellfire bolts.
Oh, yeah, I remember hearing about a bunch of these when I played literally played Bolt Gun.
I was like, oh, what are these special power-ups that I'm getting?
I've never heard of cracking ammo.
Yeah, and I was like, what is this?
Is this just made for the game?
Now I know where they come from.
I completely forgot that they had that in bulk gun.
Yes, the secrets.
Yeah, the secrets.
Oh, okay.
Well, then yes, yes, they have those.
Yeah, we haven't seen them in one game.
Right.
Those are often some of the best ones right there, or the most common ones.
The Crackin Penetrator rounds are, well, can you guess?
I would assume the Cracken that I'm assuming it's not like the mythical.
Oh, no, it is the mythical.
K-R-A-K-E-N.
Oh, I would assume that they were just like really like super penetrating rounds that are just like,
oh, do you need to penetrate a tank?
Maybe try the Cracken rounds.
Well, they are that.
Crack.
You know.
You are correct.
They are that.
Let's go.
I win.
But it's just this happened to be.
That's actually a great point.
The penetrator rounds are called the cracking rounds.
Not cracking, but like the, that's stupid.
All right.
They're cracking it open.
God damn.
So one part we didn't talk about was the seven on this bolt, which was the depleted deuterium core.
It's a very dense material, which.
which gives the round a lot more weight and momentum
and adds to penetration.
It just makes the bullet heavy.
Yeah.
And which is good because heavy,
you know what it is?
Mass plus acceleration.
Yeah,
that thing's going to screw you up.
It's going to have a lot of force.
Yep.
So,
Crack and Penetrator rounds are,
they replace that Deuterium core
with a solid adamantium core
and use a bit of a heavier charge.
So it's like a high velocity
armor-piercing needle, and it just
like, it's meant for taking
out tanks and Marines
heavily armored stuff.
Mm-hmm. Or busting through a big
heavily fortified, like,
blast shield door.
Yeah. And then, I mean,
can you guess what inferno bolts do?
Hmm.
Do they explode in a cloud
of ice and water and
very not hot stuff? Is that
how a hell fire around
works, Bricky?
Yes.
Yeah, okay, cool.
That's what I thought.
I mean, given the name,
surely it couldn't just burst into flames
and just devour whatever's surrounded in fire, right?
It couldn't be, I mean, no way.
Yeah, I mean, it's filled with prometheum.
Yeah, no shit.
Wow, was it just a bulletist full of Prometheum, really?
They removed that heavy core part,
the Deutonium core, deutonium.
What is the hell is this?
Deuterium, whatever.
They fill it with Prometheum instead.
So yeah, it's like Dragon's Breath rounds.
It sets them aflame.
Oh, boy.
That's a dangerous round to take into combat,
because if one stray bullet hits your little ammo pack
that has these hellfire rounds in it,
you are screwed.
Yes.
I mean, you know, if you're fleshy enough to begin with,
it's already a bit of a problem.
But then now you're on fire.
Yeah.
Funny enough, the Thousand Suns have a Bolt version called Inferno Bolts as well.
But for them, it's psychically bound weapons with, like, arcane energy.
And the slugs, like, explode with warp power.
That makes sense.
That tracks with the Thousand Suns in their psycherness.
There's the Hellfire Bolt, which is often used against the Tyrannids.
It is tipped with thousands of tiny little needles and a vial of mutagenic acid, dissolving its way.
through Kytin and Carapace very easily.
Ouch, that's so awful.
Normally it doesn't work too well.
Normally Nids don't get affected by this type of stuff.
I'm actually a little surprised this one does.
But that's cool, I guess,
because normally Nids adapt real quick.
I was going to say, like, why would you use mutagen acid
against Tiranids when they're so adaptable that, like,
shouldn't they just adapt to the acid and not be affected by it?
Yeah, that's,
why I'm a little bit confused, but they
still seem to do it.
So, I don't know. Maybe
maybe it's just, it's very...
And they make a different compound
so that, you know, kind of like how the
how in the, oh, because this is going to be a dorky
trecky moment. But like, you know how the Borgre all
adapting and they're always changing the
frequency of their phaser or something?
Like, you could do that with the nids. You just change
the compound in the, in the bullets a little bit.
So it's never the same and they can never
adapt to it. I don't know
if it's truly like a huge deal.
but it's, I don't know.
It's 40K.
It's 40K.
I'm just letting it go.
Whatever.
Yeah.
There is the metal storm frag bolt, which is, it's basically firing frag grenades.
When it explodes, it sends shrapnel and little bits in every direction to really take care of groups.
Oh, gross.
You've got a, it wasn't strong enough.
Let's give it shrapnel frag bullets, too.
Great.
You've got a stalker silenced shells.
These are used for snipers.
Keep quiet.
No surprise there.
I was going to say, how quiet can you really make a bolter?
I know, but maybe they're far enough away.
It's fine, don't worry about it.
Instead of like, poomp, it's like, fomp, like, oh, great.
Yeah, you really silence that one.
There's also something known as mortis bolts that spew mutagenic toxins.
There's vengeance rounds, which have a volatile core that are used to take out
heavy targets.
You've got Scorpius bolts,
which are a micro guidance system,
like a homing dart.
And then you've got,
they got Hellfrost bolts,
which are space wolves,
like freezing payloads.
Oh, there is a freezing ice bullet.
There is.
There absolutely is.
Okay.
I mean, hey, sure.
Why not?
There's lots of kinds of guns.
And they can all be loaded
in all kinds of magazines.
You know,
You have the pretty usual, like, Sickle magazine, which is the one that's curved, straight magazine, drum mags, belt fed, all that kind of stuff.
And then...
Drum magazine bolter sounds funny, actually.
That, yeah, I mean, just like a really, really big chunky thing on the bottom.
That's got to be a chunky barrel.
That's a chunky drum.
And then other than that, there's the types of bulk guns.
You know, you have the bolt pistol, which is pretty obvious.
Six to 12 rounds, kind of small.
The heavy bolt pistol.
There's the combi bolter, which is often a bolt gun slapped with another gun on it,
like a flamethrower or like a plasma gun or something.
Gained a lot of use in the heresy,
mainly because you could put like a melt a gun or a plasma gun on it,
and that's pretty good at taking out Marines.
Oh, sure, sure.
There's the combi bolter, which you'll see a lot of.
It's like two, it's like a double barrel bolter, two on both sides, tons of ammo.
Very, very often used by Terminators.
And the Grey Knights have them attached to their wrists.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, they do.
Which are very cool.
Love, love wrist-mounted guns.
Any kind of wrist-mounted gun is just, that is peak design.
Love it.
Well, it makes them really good because you get the nightly gray night thing
where they get to hold their big force halberd in both hands but still have a gun on their arm.
Oh, yeah, that would be good.
So they've got all their bases.
covered. Melee and
foot pump wrist-mounted gun.
Nice.
There's a...
There's...
Well, then you're a wacko.
Yeah.
There is also the heavy bolter,
which we know and love.
I would say the heavy bolter
might be like
one of my favorite kinds of guns
in 40K.
Yeah.
I was my favorite gun and bolt gun.
That's for sure.
I love that heavy bolter.
The heavy bolter was so good
in that game because,
Even though it wasn't the best at every situation,
it was good enough at every situation.
So it's like this is not as effective using a plasma gun,
but I don't care.
Ba,
blah,
blah,
Bob,
Bob,
Bob,
Bob,
Bob,
there's a red arrow down.
That's not gonna stop me.
Heavy bolter.
Yeah.
Every time the heavy bolter could be used,
I was always happy with it.
Yep.
Every time I found it in a new chapter,
I was like,
oh,
life is good again.
I mean,
it has a heavy rate of fire,
of course.
It's got very long range.
It's not that expensive to manufacture.
And it can be,
mistreated mostly pretty well and not have too many issues.
But yeah, the heavy bolter is one of those things that's often used.
You just give it to two guardsmen.
The two of them can set it up and prep.
You put it on top of tanks.
All the time it's on tanks.
It's on the sides of Lehman Russes or the front of them.
It's a backup weapon for artillery like basilisks and mantacores.
Wait, did you say you could give it to guardsmen?
Well, two guardsmen.
Like they will set it.
it up on a bipod or a tripod. Oh, okay. Gotcha. So they set it up like it's a freaking turret or
something. Yeah, they don't hug, they don't lug it around. Unless, unless your Sergeant Harker,
who might, is maybe dead, I don't know, he's a, he's a gigantic catachin man, the giant
muscle-bound catachin man that carries around a heavy bolter called payback.
That's a great name for a heavy, but yeah, if anybody was going to,
to be able to hold one of these and use it,
Catechin.
That's fair. Yeah. And even him, and he's like the strong
catachin. It's too bad, though. He probably gets a little
bit of oof from the recoil.
It's too bad, though, because this mini looks like dog.
Oh, man, that mini sucks. It's so bad.
The bolter looks great on that mini, though. The heavy boulter
looks fantastic on that mini. Also,
Oh, you can have, you can have belt-fed bolters?
Oh, yeah.
Most heavy bolters are belt-fed.
Oh, okay.
I thought it was just the same way as the regular one,
where you could have just a variety of clips and or drum.
I didn't realize these were all always belt-fed.
No, most of the time, heavy bolters are belt-fed.
Oh, okay.
I would attribute the heavy bolter a lot to, like, the M1 Browning,
that they put in the top of, like, Humvees and stuff pretty often.
Oh, okay.
When you said M1 Browning, I was like, I'm a dumb American that's never held a gun in my life.
What the fuck?
What the heck is an M1 Browning?
But the one on top of the tanks got you.
Is it M1 Browning or is it M2 Browning?
I think it's an M2 Browning.
The gun people, guys in the chat, gun people, you know what I'm talking about.
I think it's the M2 Browning.
I am the rare American that has never held a gun in my life.
And I'm pretty happy about it.
it.
They're pretty fun to shoot sometimes.
Yeah.
It's a cool enough hobby.
Anyway, side notes.
Yeah, heavy bolters, of course,
are pretty, can be
lugged around by space marines.
Mercutian was one of those
in the Night Lord's trilogy.
He carried around a big old heavy boulter.
Sisters of battle can actually
carry around heavy boulters too.
They're not as good at firing them,
but that power armor lets them carry them still.
sure and of course they often have the belt fed ammunition that feeds into a backpack so very often it's a backpack that it feeds into that carries all the rounds oh that's perfect because then it doesn't get in your way like you know you wouldn't trip over the belt or anything or you know get a snag in the belt or i i assume if you're harker is it has the name harker in this mini sergeant harker yeah uh that belt has got to be a big just gaping target for anyone it's like well if i shoot the belt
and one of those bullets goes off,
bye-bye, your whole weapon.
So,
probably be going to have it fed out of a backpack.
I guess.
I don't know if it works that way.
Like, I don't know if you fire a bullet
into a, like, a mag of other bullets.
I don't think it explodes or anything.
Like, they have gunpowder in them.
I mean, to be fair, a bolter round isn't really,
it's a little different, right?
Because those are essentially little...
Boom.
Yeah, those are essentially little grenades.
So if you're shooting a belt of grenades and one of them goes off,
that is true.
Yeah, I guess it's more so that way.
I just never really heard of that happening in situations.
I'm the only dummy that thought to do that.
Don't shoot his head.
Shoot the belt.
You're probably right.
I just don't know.
It doesn't.
But then, you know, the heavy bolters are just part of it.
It can get so much worse.
There's a bolt rifle, which is actually a bit of a new.
bolter that's kind of commonly used with the new Primaris Astardis. It's a bit longer,
bit thicker, has like a scope on the top. It's a bit more sci-fi-y, you know?
Okay.
A bit longer range, bit more penetrating power, but not as, I don't think it's as fast.
Like, I'd argue it's like, okay, those firstborn Astardis are quicker shock troops and the
intercessors are a bit more like the jack of all trades.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's the stalker bolt rifle, which is like a sniper.
bolt carbine.
I assume the bullets for a bolt rifle
significantly smaller.
No, they're...
Oh.
No, I don't think they know anything about rifling.
I think it's just the name of it.
Oh, okay, because I imagine like a more slender version of the bolter
because it's a, you know, I assume rifle.
And I just kind of figured that it's got the same logistics of a bolt around,
just a little thinner so that they can...
propel it like a rifle, but I guess not.
It's just been, so the bolt rifle is,
it's also known as the Mark II call pattern bolt rifle.
Can you guess who made it?
Ah, couldn't be Belisarius call, could it?
No, it's Arkin Land, idiot.
Of course, silly me.
But this is him doing the usual tech heresy
and reimagining the old bolter into a better version
for the Primaris Marines.
Oh, okay.
So he just changed the name a little bit.
Yeah. And then of course you have the Vulcan Mega Bolter. And the Vulcan Mega Bolter, we've seen already. It's the five-barreled gun they put on Titans that fires like, that fires, you know, drum barrel-sized shells.
Those things are crazy. I mean, well, it's Titan weaponry. It should be absolutely ridiculous, right?
Yes, it says the Vulcan Heavy Bolter is the most potent and effective anti-adventry weapon in the armed forces.
the Imperium of Man.
It fires two at a time
from the two separate five-barreled spinning
drums
that have shells
larger than human skulls.
Shee.
So you take good old, like, gallon-sized shells
and you just go
v-v-
and it's great.
Gun go
extremely burnt.
and I don't think I have a whole lot of others
I mean there are a couple other kinds of bolt rifles
like heavy bolt rifles
and executor bolt rifles
and sigh cannons
which is a
What about the storm bolter?
We literally already talked about that
Did we? I'm dumb, I'm sorry
Bro, we were like 10 minutes ago
What do you mean?
The storm version? We did?
Yes, they're wrist mounted on gray nights
Oh
God damn
I thought that was just regular bolter
We literally talked about
Wrist mounted storm bolters
On gray nights
It was 10 minutes ago
I thought that was just a regular bolter
That was attached to the wrist
Fine we talked about it
You said the word storm bolter out loud
My bad
Oh my god
Shy get me out of here
You know,
