Adeptus Ridiculous - THE MOST HORRIFYING ORK IN THE GALAXY (It's not Ghaz) | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:14 Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantis. His name is Bricky. And, oh, look, it's Kiryoth. It better not be War of the Beasts. But before we get into that, if you enjoy today's episode of the podcast, and maybe you want to support us monetarily, heading over to patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous,
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Starting point is 00:00:50 You know, it's going pretty good. I do have a quick little sponsorship announcement for today's video, though. I'm going to give some footage over to Shai, but real quick, this episode of Ayrick is sponsored by Tabletop Stronghold. Hey! Which is actually a pretty well-known brand to help with the carrying of your miniatures. I actually see these all-over. over the place when I go to my tournaments. Um,
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Starting point is 00:02:29 I cannot stress how often I see people using these cases in the events I go to. It is, there's at least like a good 20% of people. So I would highly, highly give it a look-see. I really like the stuff. Everyone I know likes the stuff. Link in description. Check it out. Big Black Friday sale should be awesome stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And then also past that. Shai, you have a poster, don't you? Oh. Shy, you got a poster? No, no. Oh, that's next week. Oh, my bad. My bad.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I thought it was next week. I thought it was next week. Crazy. Yeah, we're doing Realm of Ridiculous. is next week. That's right. And our social credit will go way up. Whatever that means, actually. It's funny when I read it. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I don't know what it means, but yeah, yeah. I can't stop thinking about the, I forget the name of the guy who does the Halo announcements, like the Slayer kind of guy. Kilimanjaro. Yeah, that guy. Social credit deducted. Fair. That's so fair One of my
Starting point is 00:03:42 favorite Anyway Hi Kirio Um Please don't hurt me I've just I've just realized as well That to be fair
Starting point is 00:03:50 Shai I think maybe has A bit of justification In annoyance this time round Because as it's been pointed out You do host Rome With Ridiculous DK Yeah but like
Starting point is 00:04:00 Why is Kethe gonna make Our social credit score go up Because it's based on China Oh I Yeah Yeah That's, there's a social credit thing in modern, you know, screw it, screw it, man.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Whatever. Let's move on to the quote. I think it's punishment only D.K. is allowed to get this one. What? And it's, you have to get it right. That's how this is going to work. Or there's going to be even more ridicule.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That's just, I don't make the rules. All right. Well, then, then give me the damn quote, Kerry. Okay. I've set you up. I don't know that you're going to get it, but we'll find out. We'll find out right now. Maybe I'm being faithless here.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I craft flesh, stitch blood, splice thoughts as easily as limbs, because I made him and breathed life into him when he fell. Not the gods, me. In fact, I is the closest thing to God you will ever see in this life. Hmm. Hmm. So this feels like some heretical, uh, flesh working shit. Half right. Well, it's, it's like kind of brainlike in a weird way.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Because you mentioned it in that metric. Yeah, I'll give you that. Do you fair, this is, this is, this is quite a difficult one. If it's, if it's, it's, it's, it's some admec bullshit. It's not imperium. I also say it's, okay. I didn't think so. Oh, well, that's great.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Uh, hmm. Wait, did you say heretical or loyalist? I say heretical. That's a neutral faction. I mean, I know those things are neutral faction. I was about to say, I mean, my first thought kind of went to like the, I kind of went to like the Eldar homunculi.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's kind of where my brain went. Oh, yeah. Not a bad guess. correct, but it's not a bad guess. Don't think. I'll tell you what. You're wrong, you idiot, but yes.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Let's, I'll show you what, let's narrow it down a little bit. You remember, of course you remember, how could we possibly forget the whole War of the Beast saga, full four weeks of nothing but slaughter? What if, maybe, we wanted to
Starting point is 00:06:36 return to the orcs in the summer fashion, but with something that was actually good and not an affront to writing as a profession. What? I don't know, Kyrio. Yeah. Why don't you just tell us what it is? I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I'm going to tell you. We decided that we couldn't have War of the Beast be the last Ork thing for a while. So we're going to talk about a small lad who is vastly important to the orcs because he is the one who got Gazgal back up and running. He's the one who... Macari? Oh, mad doc, Grotsnick! There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:23 There you go. The mad doc, of course, of course. You didn't... See, Kariath, you didn't say his quote with... You didn't say his quote with the right accent. There is the problem. Yeah, you didn't do the proper accent. I should have leaned in.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I should have leaned in Hardy. You probably would have gone. on straight through it. I mean, yeah, yeah. If you, that is true. That is true. It would have been pretty quick. No, no, no, no, no shy.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He has the wrong kind of British accent to do the, the, the orc voice. You need a very particular one. You've also got to be like way more shrill, especially if it's like when it's, when it's someone like Grotsnick, you've got to be really, really shrill and shrieky with it as well. I feel like it's the only way to pull it off. Try it anyway, Kiryov. Do the quote, but do it in your best Grotsnick impression. I've only just stopped coughing every hour.
Starting point is 00:08:20 There's no way you can now. You know what? Scratch that. Just let's move on. So, we had a whole month of some of the more rough bits of orc law. So an orc palate cleanser is in order. Fortunately, we have a good doctor to visit for a check upon the status of ork kind.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Grotsnick de Madd is a character that's been in the game since Codex Armageddon in 2000. The same codex that first introduced official rules for Gaskell, but Gascoll actually first appeared in an issue of White Dwarf in 1991 as a war boss for Andy Chambers' goth-orke army, which is pretty cool. And Grotznick and Gaz have been historically intertwined ever since, as it is thanks to Grotsnick that Gaz has survived. Twice!
Starting point is 00:09:07 No, Gaz, no great war, so we've got to thank the Doctor for his work. The, um, shy mentioned that Grotsnick da Mad Dock by Denny Flowers is one of the top five orc books. Out of curiosity, what are the other four, shy?
Starting point is 00:09:23 I'm assuming, um, uh, I'm assuming brutal con and, and the general Mike Brooks related things. Lord of the Beast trilogy, part one. Shut, shut,
Starting point is 00:09:33 shut, all of the War of the Beast books, obviously. Well, I'm trying to think about like the other orc books we've read and I'm like, I'm assuming, because I, you think top five and I'm like, okay, well, besides War the Beast. How many orc books are there? There aren't a Tom besides War of the Beast and we're obviously not talking about those.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So I assume it would be like Brutonan de Big Dhaka, Gascoxal Throck of Rock. Yeah. What was the one we read? Where they were like talking to the, um, the little orcs that were dressed up as a huge. Humans. Oh, that's, that's, uh, war boss. War boss. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Well, I was, God, I remember that one. And that was all right, but that, was that the one that felt more like a dark Eldar book? No, that's the big DACA. Though, I like the big DACA, I like the big DACA more than War Boss. A war boss is the one where, um, because that's the one you're referring to with the Genro, right? Yeah, yeah, that's the one of the various orcs that are trying to claim Warboss because the Grots pulled the lever and the big stompa head.
Starting point is 00:10:44 and killed the other war boss. I don't get the guess anymore today. I am oh for everything this morning, and it sucks. I mean, God. I threw you under the bus with the quote, although there is no excuse for the, for the cafe thing. I'm sorry, that there was, I knew it was, I just, fuck you. Meet me when I'm asked, what's the name of the place to eat in the school cafeteria? I know it's cafe.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Anyway, Okay, so Shai says read Maddoc Grotsnick And I think I'd probably want to read it as well Because it looks goofy Hell yeah Well, maybe maybe serious
Starting point is 00:11:24 But like it's still, you know, Orc book Anyway, continue But not as bad as the B series Which is all you need That's really all you need For it to be good I think at this point
Starting point is 00:11:36 It's in the upper like 20% Because of that Yeah, just the fact That it doesn't have anything to do with it That automatically raises the bar significantly. It's in the top 20 of orc books because there's only 25 orc books. Okay, well, we also have to thank the doctor for another reason. As we learned last month,
Starting point is 00:11:59 the history of orcs and what they can and can't do has been confusing and convoluted as recently as a decade ago. Grotsnick has been around since before those books and exists long after, and now Grotsnick is at the cutting edge of the contemporary law that establishes the true nature of orcs in life and in death. So we're going to go over the history of Grotsnick de Mad Dock from his early history to where he is right now in the Dark Imperium with Gaz. But as we go through this, we're also going to explore the deeper implications of de greene and what it means for Orkkind and how he and Gaz fit into it.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Also, heads up, this episode is also going to go heavily into the plot of the new book, Grotsdick the Mad Dock by Denny Flowers, a book that Possum genuinely loved and would place it very, very close to the top of his list of favourite orc books of all time with very little contest. And Possum also wants to stress that he's not just saying that because the last 12 orc-related books he read were rough. You know, a McDonald's hamburger does taste pretty good when you've finished eating shit. Yeah. When you've dined on sewage your whole life, McDonald's tastes pretty fucking good.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Not a single character named Slaughter. So, Gratznick started as just your average run-of-the-mill pain boy on the world of Urk in M-41. Now, it's always fun to revisit pain boys as a concept because even by Ork standards, they are terrifying. Calling a pain boy a doctor is a massive understatement. In much more recent law, even Grotsnick himself says that human doctors are very talented. He's impressed how human docs are able to stitch and mend such squishy bits. Also, a quick aside on what Grotsnick knows about humans, in conversation he has with a knob by the name of Valtin,
Starting point is 00:14:01 Valtan asks, how do humis make more humis? To which Grotsnick says, you wouldn't believe me if I told you, it's disgusting. words that orcs can say and necrons yeah yeah yeah Matt talk Grotznick
Starting point is 00:14:21 knows what sex is doesn't fuck thanks that's good point he's on we got to put him on the on the four square like charre
Starting point is 00:14:31 whatever they call it knows what sex is does not fuck man you you don't want to end up on a pain boy's table like that's not a great place to be at all.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I was going to say, I feel like you said, him being a doctor is a major understatement or something, but I think it might be considered more of an overstatement. I guess it depends on how you define. Yeah, possibly. I mean, I guess if you're going by the results, then he's very good. Very talented. Yeah. It's just maybe the methodology is a bit off.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I guess I can't really ask him to use, you know, like that's how he's. lost my medical license type thing. As far as pain boys go, he's, he's, he's, he's up there with the cream of the crop. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. The cream. That's alarmingly good.
Starting point is 00:15:24 The only real difference between a mech boy and a pain boy is what they work on. A pain boy is straight up an orc mechanic and their obsession with their work and they're dabbling in creation gives them a rush of power that tends to manifest itself in the form of madness, especially if they become more and more successful. So, when Grotsnick found the body of a random orc goff that was missing around 30% of his skull, it was time to do what he did best. Experiment. This Ork boy was the poor victim of an automated defence system left behind by Space Marines, and he didn't really stand a chance when it came to a bolt around straight to the dome. Grotsnik, like all pain boys, has an entourage of Grots that help him out, so with their assistance,
Starting point is 00:16:06 Grotsnick was able to rebuild the orc boy's skull with adamantium. But despite all the work he put in, the orc boy died on the operating table. So he threw him out like the rest of the trash, and he kept going with his work, as there were plenty of other damaged orcs that needed experimenting on. Hope he saved the adamantium before he threw him out. Very mechanicus of you, D.K. It just seems like a bit of a waste. You know, you can make some claws out of that.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I mean, it's valuable. It's valuable material. No, I mean, he's right. It's just like, it's the speed. At which D.K. was like, God, I hope he saved the metal. It's just like, damn, all right. We're really going out at it. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Recycle, damn it. The body of that orc boy was found by one of Grotsnick's Grots in the trash, and it suddenly woke up. The Grots stared into that Ork Boy's one regular arque. and saw inexplicable things. The history of the orc race, their unification in spirit, and their future. We'll get back to this vision later
Starting point is 00:17:15 as it's important for some later Grotsnik stuff, but for now, this Ork Boy would rise up. Emboldened by this vision that he believed was divine, he declared himself the prophet of the gods, and the Grot, dubbed Makari,
Starting point is 00:17:29 who found him and shared this vision, would be his banner bearer. In less than a week, Gasco would rise in power, and his success was owed quite, literally to Grotsnick's experiments. Yay. The impact of Grotsnick's surgery is not ignored, and he would become a very popular pain boy.
Starting point is 00:17:50 As we mentioned earlier, a pain boy is not a doctor, he's a mechanic, so orcs going to see a pain boy to see what they could do to modify them is very common. Now, Grotsnick had a line around his tent. This pain boy was able to put Gaz back together. Maybe he could do something for the rest of the orcs. Grotsnick found this to be a really good financial opportunity, and he decided to convince the richest knobs of the tribe to get what he was calling a Gazgoal special done to them. Oh. They too.
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's funny. It's like a menu item. He's hanging on a board outside. It's like he's a doctor who saves someone important, and now he's like, I will clearly I'm the best doctor out there, you know, type. Some stuff like that. It's just shenanigans. But it does make sense that he would immediately turn to doing that. The value menu is back, everyone.
Starting point is 00:18:45 For just a few teeth, I will remove 30% with your brain. Sounds great. Let's go. So these knobs could also have a good portion of their head replaced with adamantium, just like their hero. Grotsnick left out some details, though. Whenever he would do a Gaskell special, he would also put a high explosive device in the cranium implant that had a remote detonator.
Starting point is 00:19:11 So if a knob with one of his implants pissed him off later on, well, he would have a nasty case of exploding head. Oh, really? God, I hate when I have a case of the exploding head. I only ever would have a case once. Next level politicking that as well, off the pain boy. This was not going to remain a secret for long, and the knobs would eventually figure out they all had bombs in their heads. They also realised that if they confronted him face to face, their faces would be face to face with an explosion.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So they convinced Grotsnick to go and tend to a faulty deaf dread far away from his operating room. As he examined the deaf dread, it would grab Grotsnick and pin him to the dirt. It then used a circular saw to cut open his head before leaving him. there to die. Jesus. His body was... I know, his hardcore.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Not even decapitate. Just cut his head open. And he just left him there pinned by the death tread, just head open. Just, all right. Just left him. Holy. It's really funny. The punishment must fit the crime.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You messed with our head, therefore. Christ. So he's... body was found by his orderlies and they dragged him back to camp and spent the entire night repairing him with hammers, bone sores and drills. Now, this is not going to be a surprise to you, but Grot orderlies aren't actually very good at surgery. One of them... All right. You're shocked, I can tell. One of them lost his lunch whilst elbow deep in Grotsnick's brain and another lost his pet spider, which also crawled him.
Starting point is 00:21:06 into Grotsnick's open head. Grotsnick died several times during this night, and in the early hours of the morning, one of his orderlies used a Grot prod to revive Grotsnick, and he was back in business. Alive, but quite mad. In the fading moonlight, Grotsnick dance and sung. This festive display also included the individual sounds of explosions
Starting point is 00:21:28 as he detonated every cranium implant one by one. Yeah. I was, uh, yeah, man, they really needed to make sure they killed him. Like, you can't just, you can't just potentially let him walk away because we have another Kingsman situation on our hands. You can't, like, rasputin it. You've got to make sure.
Starting point is 00:21:49 You've got to really get in there. Yeah, yeah, it's Chekhov's pain boy. I mean, yeah, I mean, he did get, he did get, like, chainsawed by that, which I think I just love. So fucking cool. Dude, I love the Death Dress. It's such a sick mini. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Arguably one of my favorites. I think it actually might need a little bit of a refresh. But like the Terminator Space Spring refresh, where it's basically the same thing, just a little smoothed out, better plastic, etc. Yeah. The design doesn't need any help. Definitely would increase that base size because it is struggling. But yeah, the design itself, the design itself is incredible.
Starting point is 00:22:33 It just needs like the light refresh kind of mode. Mm-hmm. So it turns out that having a spider and a boots meal dealing your noggin really messes up your ability to work and focus. He would cut off limbs and replace them with a degree of frequency in order to keep his mind sharp, and sometimes he would take someone who was seeking his services arm or leg and stitch it to himself because it was slightly stronger than his own. Of note, he would also randomly just remove the brains of random boys and replace them with different types of squigs to see what would happen. Early on, there were whispers that Grotsnick was building something even more dangerous behind closed doors, something that could even rival Gaz itself, but there was no weight to those theories quite yet. We've talked about Macari before in a few episodes, but it's time to bring him back in here now.
Starting point is 00:23:25 The luckiest grot in the world, and the bearer of de lucky stick, Macari was deeply indebted to Gausgill and truly loyal to him like no other. but Grotsnick found him to be nothing but a nuisance. He knew that Macari would be a hindrance to his later plans and in order to get even closer to Gaz he would need Macari out of the picture. Shortly after Gaz took down a bloodthirst on Urk, preparations were made to depart on the world killer but celebrations had to be had first.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Everyone was distracted, so Grotsnick felt that this was a good time to strike. Macari was well aware of what Grotsnick was doing to Gaz and he hated him for it, but Grotsnick was very clear. I've got a quote for you, D.K. Oh, who's this speaking, by the way? This is Macari? This is... I'll just read it like, no, but that's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:21 All that time with Gascoe, he's scorn, shaking his long, cruel face and disapproval, and you never worked out that his strength sprang entirely from his madness. Did you not see how as I worked deeper and deeper into his skull? The gods spoke ever louder? And how the louder they spoke the greater Gaskell's feats became. Macari Gaskell's pain was his power. Spoken like a true physician and... Oh, yes, like a real...
Starting point is 00:24:53 Real doctor, you know? Yeah. Definitely someone with a degree. And a deep amount of care for his patients, for sure. Oh, I'm sure. For the first of many times, Macari would be killed. by being thrown into space. And Grotsnick would have a bit more sway with the big boss
Starting point is 00:25:17 and his experiments would get more extreme because of it. His experiments were so destructive and extreme that had it not been for the favour he had with Gaskell, he probably would have been killed years ago. But Gaz's favour over rules so the mad doc can do what he pleases and he knows how beneficial this is. When Gaz was called away from Armageddon to do greater things, Grotsnick joined him.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Gaz being Gaz, he would level his rivals and subjugate their forces with ease, but this would leave an awful lot of carnage in his wake, carnage that was perfect for Grotsnick. His project output would increase because of this, and he would gain so much strength as a pain boss that he would bully subjugated pain boys to be orderlies, much like his grots. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Also, Macar, I know, know we said McCarrey dies, but Macari's the one that, like, he's just going to keep respawning, right? Because he's, like, favored with the Great Green or something to, like, be with Gaskell or something, right? Yeah, Macari gets wasted constantly and then he keeps coming back. Yeah, he gets reincarnated, yeah. Gazz really wants him around. He really likes Macari. So, one way or another, Macari just, you know, has something horrible happened to him. And then he's back, for around eight or whatever it might end up being. Yeah, because like there wasn't there that one time where like they tried to make it
Starting point is 00:26:46 canon that Macari died because like a big orc sat on him or something? Yes. Or is that somebody else? I think he's been sat on. He got thrown into space. He got blown up by Liemann Ross. There's this. He's gone through it.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah. Last respawn I remember was like he showed up on Armageddon, I think, right? I think that was the last one. Yeah. Yeah. I think he respawned on Armageddon. That's the last one I remember. remember anyway.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Did they retcon him being sat on or is that still around? He did get sat on but that didn't like perma kill him. Well, I don't think anything permacilles him nowadays. Yeah, because he keeps, yeah, yeah. He's too important. I can't wait for them to completely ruin Makari
Starting point is 00:27:28 and tell him that he's a perpetual. No, don't even put it into it. Don't even manifest it, brother. Don't even manifest into the ether. Yeah, stop that. God. So the first was killed, then they made canon that Gaz just names random Gratz Makari, then they retcon that he both dies and comes back.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So, as is traditional with Ork Law, not confusing or self-contradictory in the slightest. Well, I say that about Ork Law. I'm going to say, GW Law, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, not even just 40K, let's be honest. So... Grotsnik has managed to subjugate some pain boys to be orderlies like his grots, but we're best not going into what happens to these pain boys when he grows tired of them.
Starting point is 00:28:22 There are rumours that he had a brain bot, a device that preserves the accumulated no-wots of his orderlies that fail him, that he keeps around for later reference, allegedly. Grotsnick's time getting close to Gaz was a bit untraditional. unbeknownst to Gaz, Grotsnick would do little experiments on him from time to time. In one instance, Gaz was suffering from a bit of a health issue. Could have been the heat, could have been the radiation, or the poison I'd been injected into his neck because I wanted to see how mad he'd go.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Wow. Regardless, the headaches wouldn't go away, and Gascoal needed assistance from his favourite doctor. Grotsnick figured he could just untighten a few of the screws in Gaz's skull to relieve some pressure. The good news is that the pressure was relieved. but the bad news was that the pressure was Gaz's brain bursting. Oh, right. I no longer have the headache now, nor the head.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah. Yay. Oh, he said he'd take the pain away, and he did. What was the problem? Yeah, yeah, typhus did something similar, if I recall, to the death guards. Yeah, he sure did. Don't worry, guys, the pain will go away. I swear, just.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Just swear for it. field to you. Task failed successfully. But at least Grotsnick had a chance to really get in there to figure out what was wrong. He was able to fix his head up, but Gaz's heart wasn't starting again. So he needed to dive in there himself to figure it out. And as he took a look at Gaz's heart, he figured out the course. I've got something for you here, Bricky.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You said his brain exploded and then just casual, like, yeah, he was able to go in and fix that. His brain exploded, though. Look, he's very talented, all right? Grotnick is skilled, gas is hardy. What, what do you want? That's true. I mean, he was decapitated and they brought him back. And, well, yeah, I guess, sure, sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Anyway, sorry, go ahead. Read the quote. So I spent a good while squinting at it trying to work out what it might have been. But I remembered, I'd injected him with molten plastic. plastic a few days previously. Supposedly, it had been a cure for the rashes on his neck, which I'd also caused with a swab dipped and used reactor coolant. But really, it had just been a bit of spite on my part.
Starting point is 00:30:53 For a moment there, I almost regretted having done it. Wow. When you say, when you say Mad Doc, you actually weren't kidding. I guess, because when I think, I think mad doctor, I think like, oh, I think like some resin evil shit, you know? where it's like, oh, I'm going to create the new evolution of humanity and some kind, like, because Belisarious call as a mad doctor, well, scientists, I suppose, you know what I mean. And like Uri and Rackarth is a mad doctor because he likes to just make horrible, horrible things. Bile is a mad doctor because he likes to, you know, try to like create more powerful stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:33 But he's just like crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's just actually, where the others have got a drive to achieve, I think Grotsnick, maybe there was some of that, but he's just off the deep end at this point. He's just lost his, he's lost his sweet mind. He just does whatever he likes.
Starting point is 00:31:53 He doesn't have to care about, I mean, well, the others don't care about morality either, but like, he doesn't really, he's not really constrained by some kind of care for anything. He just kind of likes to do. Yeah. And he is right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:08 Manus and Pain does make gas stronger. That is true because, you know, or all that stuff. But I guess he's just kind of funny because he's just like, yeah, he's just kind of, he's just kind of cuckoo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Let me inject molten plastic into you and see what happens. Great. It's a, it's a bit where he, where he's like, it had been a cure for the rashes on his neck, which I also called, which I cause,
Starting point is 00:32:34 yeah. It's a little bit of, but really it had just been a bit of spite on my part. Like he knows that Gaz gets stronger through madness and pain. But that one specifically, if it was out of spite, it wasn't to make him stronger. He just felt like hurting him. And that's like a slightly different level of being insane. There's a darker edge to that. It's definitely because it's like that, it's the thing with the orcs.
Starting point is 00:33:04 right? Because, you know, orcs are so funny, goofy, but they are, like, quite terrifying to non-Orks, right? Oh, yeah. And so it's kind of just like to us, or he's like, yeah, I just kind of wanted to hurt him, so I injected him with stuff. But, like, other orcs are terrified of the dude,
Starting point is 00:33:24 which is even more frightening because, I mean, orcs don't scare easily, right? Yeah. He made a great night, Lord. No, the night lords are like, you're killing them too quickly. You got to let them, you got to make them suffer. It's got to take longer. You got to savor the flavor, the fine earth bits.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Come on. Even after all of that, he was able to get gas back in working order, and it was like nothing happened, sort of. Despite being surrounded by goffs for a good portion of his twisted career, Grotsnick was not actually a goff. He was a death school through and through. and Grotsnick would feed into his death school tendencies with the formation of his own schism warband, composed of other death skills as well as freebooters and pain boys that he hadn't promoted to extended USB storage. This war band called DeCorpse looters, which is so on the nose as a name. Ski-Zah, I wonder what they do.
Starting point is 00:34:28 They set out to harvest corpses from battlefields by either cleaning up the messes after a fight or starting to fight themselves and then cleaning up the mess that they've made. The goal is to harvest anything that they think either Grotsnick himself would like or things he has specifically asked for. This war band is home to many a customized cyborg that he refers to as his stitch boys.
Starting point is 00:34:50 They go through a battlefield like wildfire and after packing up their meat wagons they retreat back to bring their newly claimed wares to Grotsnick himself. I love the meat wagon. I was going to say, What a name. That's not the wagon you want to get your stakes from, ladies and gentlemen. Shortly after the opening of the Great Rift, Grotsnick was spotted leading a warband of Payne Boys cyborx and highly modified killer cans,
Starting point is 00:35:19 which was seemingly an extension of de corpse looters, on a surprise attack on an isolated Silver Templars strike cruiser. The attack was a success, and Grotsnick was able to take some corpses along with him, along with some live Primaris prisoners. What was his goal? Great question. We're now going to take a quick shift to the Battle of Krongar in the midst of the psychic awakening in the wake of the Great Rift. The conflicts between Gaz and the space wolves have become more and more frequent. And the culmination of this took place on Krongar. This battle included Ragnar Blackmayne himself, and Gaskell wanted to face him unencumbered. So he set up a trap in an imperial cathedral and detonated explosives to trap Ragnar in there with him. so they could properly duel. The two would have a violent battle, a conflict which Ragnar found himself on the losing end of, but Ragnar would muster enough primal strength to use his frostblade and decapitate Gazgoal,
Starting point is 00:36:18 killing the Great Ork. I don't know if that tent he means is lost, you know? Air quotes killing Gaz, right? You know, him losing his head is not enough to kill him. Well, this is the scenario. Again, we're losing his head. Does not kill him. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's like the third time he's lost his head. I mean, he lost like 30% of it to a boulter. Then his brain exploded. Now his head's been removed from the body. Yeah. He deals well with catastrophic trauma to the head. So no other than anyone else in that universe. Well, isn't it, um, is it, it might literally just be the Gaskab book.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Doesn't he like start off like not having a head and just like barely making it back to camp or something? where they fix him? Well, yeah, that's the Bolter shell thing. Oh, right, right, right. I don't know why. I thought the bolter shell and everything else was like different.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I don't know. No, that's the bolter shell. This is the other part where he gets the big body. Yeah, okay. Cool. The big body, that is an understatement. Yeah, yeah. Such a great mini.
Starting point is 00:37:26 See, D.K. was so right. I mean, if we didn't, if we didn't say the Adamantium, we couldn't have fixed him up like this, you know? Exactly. Great stuff. Great stuff. But yeah, his mini is slap so hard.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, it's insane. It's so good. Mini, again, this air quotes mini. The death of Gaz caused the immediate shaking of his war and the full collapse of it was imminent. Grotsnick would have to act immediately. Though control of the war would fall to finds bullets he has not lost, or bullets for short,
Starting point is 00:38:02 of the clan boss council, Grotsnik knew that the only thing that could restore the while would be Gaskill himself. And as the existence of Gaskill allowed him to work and act freely, a lot was at stake here. Unfortunately, this meant that he needed Macari too. We're going to, like, TLDR a bit of Gass relationship with Macari, but the little Grot had died a whole bunch of times, and each time he would be brought back by Gaz. During the conflict with Ragnar, Macari would be crushed and would die once more.
Starting point is 00:38:32 even in between life and death itself, Gaz would be upset there was nobody left to bring Macari back to life. Grudgingly, with the assistance of bullets and the severed arm of Gaskell, Grotsnick was able to recreate Gaz's reincarnation ritual and bring back Macari. And with the really testy agreement they reached with one another, Macquarie and Grotsnick worked to put the profit back together again. A chaotic surgery that involved dismembering his body and attaching it to pieces of heavy, heavy armor and also a wee bit of medical malpractice too. Okay, DK, your turn again. I was going to say, do orcs really do medical malpractice? Isn't that just practice for them? Anyway, apparently there'd been a plan for that tank of squiggils I've seen earlier, but since the generator was about to fire, there wasn't time for nothing clever anymore. So Grotsnick bust
Starting point is 00:39:28 open a hatch in the side of the boss's armor right over his guts and just open the whole tank into it water and all i'll tell you now i'd bet every tooth i have that he did that for no reason but his own amusement i was drifting into the org voice and then that happened i was like nope nope what a reaction squiggils squeals squeals if you will someone's going to be squealing. Yeah. Jesus. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:40:04 We're running out of time. Just dump the fish tank in his stomach. Water and all. Why? So with a shot from orbit that had a high percentage chance of destroying the planet itself, the beam of green lightning fired as Gascoe's body successfully was revived and the while was restored. But as we'll learn, proper restoration is a bit of a luxury when it comes. to the experiment of Grotsnick, and even the mind of the mad doc is in a bit of a degree of disarray
Starting point is 00:40:35 that he kind of kept himself to the most part. Oh, sorry, he's a four in five chance of destroying half the planet. Those are good odds for an orc. That's pretty good. Also, so canonically, Gascall has pet eels just swimming around in his arm or somewhere, water and all. She's got some squiggly-eal pets just swimming around. All right, cool. I, you know, orcs, orc.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Orcs. I love him. Feels like it should be some sort of saying, oh, he moves like he's got a stomach full of eels, but I don't know what that would apply to. Can we, like, please just use that to refer to Gaz from now on. Boy, that gas moves like he's got a stomach fully. I mean, if anything, I would argue that the,
Starting point is 00:41:22 that you're full of beans phrase, just we just swap it to full of eels. Damn, we're full of Eels. Absolutely full of eels. Gasco was absolutely crazy and full of eels. Slap that shit on the shirt.
Starting point is 00:41:44 To watch, just the words are full of eels. Yeah, that's it. Again, another nice, easy, easy bit of merch. And the text, it's just eels, like they're in the shape of the letters. Anyway, let's Okay, that is actually
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'd buy it. I don't know when I'd wear it, but I'd buy it. It'd be one of one because you'd be the only one that bought it. No, you see, this is the new thumbnail, right? You take this image and it's just a guess full of wheels. God. Stop tiered memory, dude. All right. Oh, God. Okay, we're going to jump now to a conflict involving Hive Proem.
Starting point is 00:42:32 This is a world in the midst of a good old Gasgall conquering, and while he's inside making his way through, other orcs are trying to make their way in, including beast snaggers. For those who might not recall, beast snaggers are orc traditionalists that tend to be nomadic. Predominantly made up of snake bites, beastnaggers have a degree of disdain for machinery, and instead prioritize the usage of squigs and. squig accessories. The boss of this group of Beast Snaggers was named Backman. A massive roar echoed over the battlefield and caused the Beast Snager squigs to go into a frenzy that led to a stampede, which was not helpful, especially since they ran into an issue. They couldn't traverse the water properly to get to the hive because their squigs were unable to do so. So they had to make a deal with some Meck Boys, who were less than helpful. In the midst of all of this, an unmarked battlewagon
Starting point is 00:43:24 covered in grots wearing face masks, spraying needles everywhere, knocked down a few of the boys as well as the larger squigs that were freaking out. Conveniently stopping on the Beast Snickers Pain Boy, the vehicle opened up, revealing a very large orc who was more than willing to help those who were either injured and or parked on. This ork was, of course, Grotsnick. A more stoic Grotsnick than we've seen in the past, but more menacing as well. less mad scientist and more Hannibal Lecter in tone and presence.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But there may be a good reason for this. Abyss ago, we mentioned the brain bot that allegedly contained the brains of those pain boys that worked under him that he began to disrespect. But he was doing something else with some brains at his disposal. Here's an attempt of him trying to carry a conversation. There you go, Bricky. Oh boy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Um, that's not it, you stupid. Something was wrong with the doc. He seemed to be struggling. His words clipped and cut as he spoke a grot race past, handing him an injector, which Grotsnik stabbed into his own temple. He stiffened, muscles contracting so tightly the skin on his forehead tore slightly, the wound oozing a sickly cream. As I was saying, the doc continued.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Needed his Botox injection. Crazy. The temple. Not the neck, not a vein. No, straight for the side of the head. Directly in there. Yeah. Wild.
Starting point is 00:45:03 So Grotsnik had become a bit of a grafter in recent years, and in order to improve his own intelligence, he would graft brilliant orc minds into his own. So kind of similar to call, in a way. Multiple personalities and memories make up his mind, form a bit of a patchwork network that allows him to access more thoughts and ideas. Call sometimes runs into trouble with these personalities, but is able to temper it due to his experience and skills. Grotsnick, on the other hand, does not have the temperance of an archmajoras, and these graphs are at odds with him most of the time. Sometimes they help, sometimes they
Starting point is 00:45:41 insult him, sometimes they attack Grotsnick's ability to deal with anything. It makes this kind of lackluster and it results in him snapping and yelling at himself openly. So to temper these grafts, the doc is taken to extreme means like jabbing himself in the temple. And his first scene in the book, it's like four personalities of Grotsnick talking to each other. It's pretty fucked up. Nice. So, poor guy. Pular.
Starting point is 00:46:11 GW does like their multiple personalities stuck in one head, don't they? Necron's got that too. It's a good truck. I mean, yeah, Oltics did have that going, but now they're all a bunch of scurbs.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah. Another thing that was immediately noticeable was the very obvious fact that Grotsnick was not anywhere near Gaz. While working in his wagon, the other beef snaggers were thinking of swimming across the lake because they were getting restless waiting.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Grotsnick sneered and said that none of them were really thinking. They thought they were, but they were instinctively being drawn to Gaz and his wake. Volton stammers and Grotsnick asks him why he's even holding his blade. Volton shifts and says, because I felt like it. Grotsnick smiles and tells him that his feeling was all because he felt Gaz move. Whether it's miles away or planets away, the movement of gas pulls every ork. Hell, even Grotsnick tried to shield his wagon to prevent Gaz's energy from pulling him, but it didn't matter. Sooner or later,
Starting point is 00:47:12 Gascoe's presence will drag them all through the lake to the other side, whether they want to go or not. Magnetism, extreme personality of Gascole. He's got that magnetic personality. It's just so nice. Do people love it? It's pretty cool when Gaz is at War or planets
Starting point is 00:47:39 away reach for their weapons. Yeah, you know, there's like, Hell yeah, it's the bit the profit of the laws here. Everyone get up. We're going crumping. We've been summoned. It's, we've got to move now. Now, we're going to cut back to the bit earlier about what Makari saw when you looked into
Starting point is 00:48:01 Gascoe's eye. The sequence is one of the longer parts in the Gascoll book, and it's made a bit more strange because it's from the perspective of a grot figuring out something incomprehensible. Insert William Defoe looking up, Giff here. But the crux of it is that Makari witnesses a vision of the history of orc kind itself, past, present and future. He also witnesses a moat of green that spreads through and pools elsewhere through complex and strange caverns like a beehive. This serves as the basis of understanding of the Great Green. The Great Green is a spiritual realm for the orcs that serves almost as a mycelial network where all orc kind comes from and goes.
Starting point is 00:48:44 In as basic of a description as possible, a mushroom is the budding bit of the actual fungus, which is the mycelium. The mycelium is a mass that spreads through massive threads called Haifa. These threads can fan out quite the distance, and due to their spindly and thin nature underground, they can remain very difficult to detect. The network of these threads responds to impacts or issues it may run into while it spreads. If it's damaged, it will repair itself and prioritise sending signals to mend itself. Networks like this can also intertwine with other plants to assure its abundance and survival in a cohabitable manner. The largest known example of this is in Malian National Forest in Oregon.
Starting point is 00:49:28 The single specimen found here is estimated to be 3.5 square miles in size and weighs somewhere in the vicinity of 35,000 tons. Jesus Christ, that's a big boy. That's impressive. So I think if I'm not mistaken on this, I remember this was a bit of a change. So last of us, right? The original game was the cortisps virus and all the usual stuff, which is like a kind of mushroom fungi-ish-looking thing. It's a real thing, obviously. But they did the usual zombie thing.
Starting point is 00:50:02 But I remember, I didn't see the second season, but I saw the first season of the show. And I think I remember they made a slight change to how they operate, where if you, like, touched or damn. damaged or mess with the spores themselves, like the network, it would wake up a bunch of other zombies. And so it was kind of, I think it was kind of based off that where it's like, oh, this is like a fungal network in a sense. Like, oh, I actually stepped on a thing, a quarter steps on the ground that was sprouting up through the pavement. Now like 30 zombies are running towards my location. Yeah, they're all activated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I think I remember that being the case. Yeah, it seems not dissimilar. to that where the orcs are just connected through this through this sort of network of presumably like invisible connections though this okay because i remember because because orc power of belief was like very nebulous and vague for a long while uh especially when you know especially when we've started making content and um i remember gaskell throcka book prophet of the war they talk a bit more about that specifically they kind of talk about the Great Green a bit more that Macari kind of has
Starting point is 00:51:21 his moments so but when we refer to the Great Green in a sense this is like well they they kind of refer to almost like an afterlife sometimes don't they yes so there's also there's also like a spiritual nature to it as well which we're which we're about to get on to I will also say just because it's always nice to add on to the mushroom facts we do need to remember that mushrooms do photosynthesize. Just, you know, wanted to throw that out there. That is true.
Starting point is 00:51:50 That is true. Mushrooms do photosynthesize. I thought we were past this. I really. I mean, it's been how long ago is the last breath? It's about it. This whole thing has been,
Starting point is 00:52:03 you know, people being brought back from the dead. Why not bring that back? Why not drag that one out of its cold grave? You know, considering what the war of the beast has done to me, I'm starting to believe mushrooms really do photosynthesize. So the Great Green for the Orks acts in a similar manner to this whole mycelial network thing.
Starting point is 00:52:22 The Orks are the budding fruit from this network that spreads orcs out to suit the needs of a general area. And when an orc dies, its essence is reabsorbed into this network until Gork and Mork deem it necessary for this orc to return. Say there's a really good Blood Axe war boss out there somewhere in the galaxy. Does his duty, kills a bunch of lads, then gets killed. The spirit of this Blood Axe Warboss will return to the Great Green, and when the environment calls for a Blood Axe Warboss to fill a niche, the basis of that lad will be reborn in the form of a brand new orc. An orc that likely won't remember a damn thing about what happened to it, except the real primal makeup of that one orc. When Macari died and came back, he had no idea who he was, until he was whacked around a whole lot, and eventually his memories returned. Until he was whacked around a old lot.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I mean, he was. He was waxed around a whole lot. Bigger war bosses tend to have a bit of a draw to them because of the radiation of the wire. Energy around them and as they are a more potent source of energy, it seems that the Great Green may prioritize sending some stronger orcs to the areas where that war boss is operating to assist the snowballing of their presence. So Shai said, I just want to say, get absolutely fucked elves. have fully functional reincarnation system, no strings attached,
Starting point is 00:53:48 while your ass is getting eaten in the warp by the god of BDSM. Slanesh is not the god of BDSM. Okay, maybe she is. I mean, if there was going to be a god of BDSM, that would be the one. Yeah, not exclusively, though. Yeah, multi-talented.
Starting point is 00:54:04 She does other, they do other stuff. Oh, well, sure, sure. They party and drink and... Yeah, but if you're going to pick one... Yeah, I guess. Also, that actually is kind of interesting, too, because, like, I can't quite tell because Macari is a bit of a different thing, because you can assume in that case that all orcs can, you know, can reincarnate, right, to an extent, which does slang I don't like, which is make
Starting point is 00:54:32 the death of an orc character not mean anything. However, I don't know if they're going to, if that's mainly going to be a Macari type deal, because like Macari is a little different and Macari dying is kind of like a like the joke. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I mean, Macaara is the only one that like remembers that's been reincarnated. Every other one is just like,
Starting point is 00:54:56 oh yeah, sort of a base template of orc is being revived, but it's not like it, it's not like it's a full reincarnation, right? It's not like they come back for remembering there. So it's, that's what I'm trying to get at is like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Like if the orc presence can be reincarnated, I would assume that they wouldn't want to come with their memories because then it would be different, right? However, Makari does seem like it's a special case because Makari is goofy. Macari. But I wouldn't like, I don't know, I smell, I smell a bad writing prompt of like, oh, here's this or character that's really awesome and dies. It smells like Angron. You know? Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:55:42 It smells of like Either Angron or like I don't want to say perpetual Because it's not quite that But it is that same sort of like You've got an important or character We can't afford to lose them We're just going to keep reviving them
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, that's what it smells like It smells like having a day XXMachina If they ever wanted to kill someone off And the fan base is upset about it And then they bring them back type deal But we'll see Maybe they'll show Maybe they'll show some restraint
Starting point is 00:56:08 GW What? Yeah, we'll see Anyway That man's full of eels Yeah Kind of Somehow Pauberteteet returned
Starting point is 00:56:23 Somehow Gascoe returned Yeah I will say I do like Gascoe being reincarnated By an insane doctor It's a much better lore option Imagine
Starting point is 00:56:37 Imagine if he didn't even want to come back. It's actually, he's actually can't have had enough at this point, but there's always a pain boy going, oh, you know what? I reckon I could, I could get another few years out of the remains of this, this hugely important profit. Let's, let's see what I can do. And in the, in the great green, Gaz is like, ah, for fuck, D, come on, I just want to nap. Just give me, just give me, like, just give me two night's sleep, please. Gaz is pretty depressed through his entire book. It's, you know, it's what's the thing suffering from success yeah a little bit of that
Starting point is 00:57:14 now we are gonna come back to gas the profit of gork and morke is very different and his impact on the great green is highly unusual so in grotsnick's own words dk you see he's bigger than the space he occupies like an all-encompassing wah compressed into a finite point An army condensed into a single orc. It shouldn't work.
Starting point is 00:57:40 The pressure should burst him, but somehow he channels it, drags everything in. When you're around him too long, it starts influencing your thoughts. Makes you think like he thinks. Unless you're clever. Unless you keep parts of your thoughts separate. A bit of humble brag there. Yeah, a little bit of a humble bag. A minimum.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Everyone else gets affected by this, but I'm smart, so it doesn't work on me. says the guy having arguments with himself on the regular, because he's got too many people in his own brain. I mean, that's true. He probably does keep parts of his brain separate. Yeah. So Gascold through the work of Grotsnick and his ever-continuing war has become almost a manifestation of the Great Green itself,
Starting point is 00:58:25 a conduit for it. Orcs are drawn to him not through the general enjoyment of a good crumpin. It's now becoming instinct. Even in death, the orcs come back can go almost immediately into war to fight by his side. This energy is so potent that even weird boys can't be around him for too long without their heads exploding. Even the non-Ork cycas look at Gazgal with awe at what the hell he is.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Grotsnick, however, knows that regardless of what Gaz is, he remains one thing and one thing only. His creation. And this creation needed to be kept sharp, so he had a bit of a present for Gaz once the hive fell to his. control. We're going to sort of stroll through a good portion of the book itself as an episode of the entirety of this book would take a while, since it goes over a lot of interesting orc culture marks and does it super well, especially from the primary protagonist of the book
Starting point is 00:59:20 Volton the Patient. But one thing to know about the hive is that it wasn't what it seemed. It wasn't just normal humans that were in control of the hive. They were part of the hive mind. Gene Steelers had infiltrated the planet and Grotsnick took great interest in their biology and began to experiment with it for a bit for means that seemed to be out of curiosity more than anything else at this particular moment I mean even when it's just out of curiosity
Starting point is 00:59:48 you know it's going to end up bad I mean I mean Mad Grot being curious about something is already a bit of a terrifying prospect Yeah You didn't want to be the thing that makes a guy called de mad doc go ooh, I want to tinker with that.
Starting point is 01:00:07 You don't want to be on his operating table. Chais says apparently in that book, the loyalist humans are really creepy. I wonder if they were doing like a, how do you say it? Like, where they kind of have like a juxtaposition there. Or aren't the loyalist humans all a little creepy?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, I mean, I guess they, oh, because they're doing weird genetic stuff as well. Okay. So, yeah, it was like the flip of a coin type thing, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. The other side of a coin, however you say it. So eventually, the inevitable would happen,
Starting point is 01:00:41 and Gasco would wipe out the leadership of the hive and find himself atop the throne. Grotsnick met him at the top and mockingly pointed out that he'd found another one. Gaz did not respond because Gaz was a bit dinged up at the moment. His armor was cracked and his skin was scarred, and Grotsnick offered him some treatment if he hadn't found another stature to do so yet.
Starting point is 01:01:00 and Gaz basically told him to shut up with a voice that was like an earthquake. Grotsnick thought that was pretty funny and pointed out that he needed his services twice before, and he'll always need his services. Grotsnick wondered how much was left of the stupid orc who let his head get splattered because he thought that orc died a long time ago piece by piece. Grotsnick wondered what crawled into the hole that was left in Gaz's head. Finally, Gazgo got a bit pissed and advanced towards Grotsnick, asking him if he wanted to test his patience.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Cotsnick said he had two minds about it. Probably 100% accurate, not even the same. That's very funny. But one of them really wanted to. He pressed a button on his wrist and the back of his pain wagon opened. From it emerged, an orc, sort of.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It was the shape of an ork, but something was wrong. Its legs were bent backwards. It had patchwork skin, swollen arms and crimson eyes. To Volton, this orc looked familiar as it was one of his former crewmen, but it was also something else, something alien, a hybrid abomination of gene stealer and orc. Oh, God. Jesus. The mad, Doc. You're gone too far, Doc. You've gone too goddamn far.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Jesus Christ, that thing must have been... I want to see art of it, actually. Yeah, I mean, that's absolutely horrifying. Like, really, really bad. Wait, yeah, wait, wait, shy. Was this, was this Gene Steeler orc hybrid originally a thing that was recond and now they brought back with the mad doc or something of that nature? Because there's a lot of interesting new stuff we were learning from these orc books.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Oh, the old school Gene Steeler orcs. Oh, yeah. I wonder, Steeler Orks? They were also Necron Pariahs. Yeah. I want, okay, I bet, I wonder if this is more just like a fun,
Starting point is 01:03:10 like, dig. Cheeky nod. Yeah, yeah, cheeky nod. That'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, he's full of eels, you know. Yeah. I'll try to remember when,
Starting point is 01:03:20 when Gene Steeler orcs were a thing. I mean, it was a while ago, right? I didn't even know they were a thing. Like, did, were there, were there, Were there minis for these things or were they just story things? That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Necron Priya's, did they have minis? Or were they just in Dawn of War? Oh, they had minis. They were great as well. Okay, I don't play, I didn't play Necrons back then. Oh, yeah, they were hella old. Oh, God, damn, yeah. Yeesh.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Well, that is, that is. Oh, no. I did see the Nechron Priya minis. My buddy had them in his Necron army in Seventh. Or maybe they weren't in seventh, but he was using them like the minis. Because they had the tube. They had that shitty green plastic tube that they would put in the water. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Oh my God. The tube is awful, but I kind of miss the tube. Look at the, look at the, oh, look at them, look at them tubes. Oh, my goodness. That's, that is, yeah. God, that's, it's so funny. It follows the same concept of like the human reaper from Aspect to it. It's just.
Starting point is 01:04:30 really does yet. So, yeah, because they're necrons built out of human pariahs, right? Which are blanks, which is really, really hard to do because there's like no blanks. But, you know. Oh, boy, those are, those are terrible. I mean, to be fair, they also, I believe they were with the original codex for the necrons in third edition. So when they, when they came out, I'm pretty sure they were metal, I seem to remember, because
Starting point is 01:05:00 I had some and good Lord the weapons they bent like you wouldn't believe because where the tube is obviously they arrive like not assembled
Starting point is 01:05:10 the tube when inside that staff but the staff has got a massive gap where the tube should go but it's made of metal so the only thing that's keeping it together
Starting point is 01:05:22 is a thin strip of metal right above the base of where the tube slots in so nine times out of ten if you weren't careful if you so much as thought about dropping one, it would just snap. Like,
Starting point is 01:05:35 the weapon would just snap off at the blade because look at the connection point. It's minuscule. I was going to say, you can see in that picture the damn thing is already bending. Yeah, metal minis are some of those like, you know, I'm sure there's nostalgia for them, but every metal mini I ever had
Starting point is 01:05:54 was the most infuriating thing to deal with of all time. Oh, 100%. Yeah, they would, they were not good. Like the Nightbringer, one of the coolest metal minis that Games Workshop ever made. Mine, when I bought it,
Starting point is 01:06:09 it had, like the two halves simply didn't match up. So like the way it came with the legs and the robes and then the upper half and it sort of attached at the waist and it was all like curved and sculpted as though the two parts were supposed to simply slot together.
Starting point is 01:06:26 They didn't slot together. Not even slightly. There was like a massive gap right in his gut and it looked atrocious and anyone I ever met who bought one basically just had to sit there sculpting away with green stuff to make it look like it was supposed to look in all the pictures because it just never it just never came out right absolute absolutely horrible I don't miss metal minis at all not even slightly I don't think anybody does no I mean there's there's occasionally people who are like oh my old my old residents of that but I
Starting point is 01:06:59 think it's one of those things where you you enjoy the aspect of suffering in the past, you know? Yeah. He's brought out his disgraceful hybrid abomination of Gene Steeler and Ork. Wasn't truly an orc, but neither was Gaz. Gaz took a look at the creature and yelled, What have you done? And what follows is something that needs to be read as opposed to summed up. Now, this is a longer one.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You know what, Brickie? You can have it anyway. Okay, cool. Like, uh, what did I do? Grotsnick asked with a toothy grin. I'll tell you what I did. I bequeathed my, he knows the word bequeathed. I bequeathed my genius to a no-named youth.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I stuffed what was left of his brains back in his head. I resurrected him twice, I might add. Or was it three times? It don't matter because once, once should, because one should have been enough. I made you. You were mine. And then, and then I'm assuming gas responds.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I ain't yours and you never brought me back. That was the gods. The gods? Grotsnick laughed. The gods. You think they made us? No, we made them. And I think you know that.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I think you hide behind your title of prophet. But deep inside, you know the truth. Gods are us. An ideal we brought into being because we knew it to be true. Orcs make gods not the other way around. All except me. I am an or. who made himself a god you're mad says gaskell mad nah i'm real calm really really calm calmer than any ork has ever been you know why grotsnick
Starting point is 01:08:41 continued because i took out all the anger that sizzling hatred i extracted it distilled it refined it and you know where i put it my bitter my bitterness my rage he looked at the creature and smiled the way a runtherd might smile at a particularly astute grot. Yeah, that boy crazy. Rather, rather interesting little thing they're throwing out there though, right? A bit of an interesting implication.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Mm-hmm. Because, I mean, it's hard to take him at his word because he's Grotsnick and Grotsnick is mad. Uh, but, you know, there, there is the concept of like,
Starting point is 01:09:24 whoa, is Gork and Mork actually a thing or, but in reality, I'm pretty sure they are, but, um, It's like, but obviously gods are made by emotion in the world of Warhammer, you know? That's true.
Starting point is 01:09:38 So it's kind of like a, oh, interesting concept. He might have actually only hit on something whilst ranting and raving like a lunatic. You know, yeah, a broken dock is right twice a day. Well, you tried with that saying anyway. That was funny. Come on. That was, it was, it was, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I enjoyed it. Don't humor, sure it. He's full of eels and you know it. It's true. Absolutely full of eels. I also was a bit taken aback by the use of the word
Starting point is 01:10:11 bequeathed. I mean, I know he's smart, but Jesus Christ, that is... Yeah, an orc knowing that is crazy. He's probably being literal too. He probably pulled out the anger sense of his own brain
Starting point is 01:10:22 and put them into the ork gene steamer. You know what? Probably, yeah. Probably. So Galsgall was not happy about it. this funnily enough and engaged the hybrid beast with blow after blow. Each hit seemed to make the world shake but unlike other enemies beforehand this one was far more adaptive. As Gaz fought it the tyrannic instincts of the beast would kick in and it would begin to change itself to strike back
Starting point is 01:10:49 harder. The creature was encouraged to hit harder because of implants that Grotsnick put into its skull that he also pressed as the fight continued. Volton watched this in horror asking what Grotsnick had done. Grotsnick responded and repeated that Gaskell was Ork no more. A bucket for DeGrean itself. A bucket that was leaking all over the place. Through the eyes of Mork that Grotsnick was wearing, Gaskell looked like pure energy. Something beyond comprehension. It's getting very high concept, isn't it? It's just a little bit. Jesus. Despite the ever-evolving nature of the creature that Gaz was fighting, gas suddenly was imbued with power.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Before their eyes, Gaz's energy began to grow physically before them, like Harper in Black Op 7. God, God, it's, you know, my God. I don't get that reference, because I don't play blobs. My brain, it's so bad. AI generated slop.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Oh, God, Michael Rooker, you were trying so hard. Oh, God. that was that was 100% sorry i'm having possum i i asked possum to do the worst possible thing ever i asked him to look through all the cutscenes of call of due of call of black op seven and find the ai generated inconsistencies with them and i think i may have accidentally given him the same the same uh syringe that the mad doc shoves into his temple it was to cure the rash that i caused Mm-hmm. So, God, a massive roar from him would cause Grotsnick to rip the eyes of Mork off his face in pain. Gaz radiated burning green light that was causing the abomination to shrivel. Green lightning would knit the cables of Gaz's armour back together, and with unstoppable might, Gaz would rip the abomination in half.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Covered in blood and viscera, Gaz would say, well, that was interesting. like actually that that's what gas said yeah yeah i mean i mean it is gas he's not wrong to be fair i kind of would have just assumed like a gutter old primal scream after ripping that thing in half like megatron ripped jazz in half no no it kind of gets reminds me of when the um the orc guy i hate that i forget his name right now from space marine one um comes back and he just kind of like quietly, giggles and laughs and it's like, I ain't that easy to kill, you know?
Starting point is 01:13:31 Yeah, yeah, there. What's his name? That's going to annoy me now. I know. Grimskull? Grimskill? I was going to say Blood Flag, but that's Dawn War. But I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I think it is, is it grimskill? Okay, it's grim skull. Yeah, Grimskull. Yeah, okay. I love Grimskull. He was great. He's awesome. Grotsnik would say that he tried, but it was a bit more machined than
Starting point is 01:13:52 ork and ended up being a bit too easy of a fight. Gaz said it drew a bit more blood than the last fight, but it was still too easy. Grotsnick thought he had something there, and Gaz said he couldn't beat him, and he would always prove he was the strongest. He said that he got why Grotsnick did what he did, but if he wanted to do a shortcut to make him stronger, then his next creation would have to be a bit more orc. Gaz ordered the rest of the orcs to loot the hive so they could get out of there, but while the rest of them were hard at work, Grotsnick was sitting there smiling. Volton asked him why he was smiling when he lost. Grotsnick said that even though Gaz won, he was bleeding everywhere, and when he bleeds, DeGrean bleeds with him.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Gaz won because of de Green because he could channel it, but now Grotsnick could too. He held in his hand a weird orb, something of Dracari origin. It was soul tech and it was glowing. The energy that Gaz dispersed was being picked up by this orb, and some lucky orc was going to be his next expect. to see how this tech would work. Unfortunately, Grotsnick had made a new friend on this planet. It just gets worse. He's just an absolute, absolute nutter. Wait, was Grasnick's new friend of some Dr. Curry, dude? No, he's got another, is it the guy that he found earlier on?
Starting point is 01:15:17 Oh, oh, yes. I got my stuff mixed up. Yes. Grotsnick with Drew Karatzniq. Rai tech does not sound like a fun time for anybody. Well, maybe Gass will find it fun. I don't know. Ah, you're going to have the protagonist, right?
Starting point is 01:15:33 Okay. It's a new time for a new experiment. Oh, Jesus. You just, of all of them, of all of them to have that tech. Hey, anyone. The most interesting for sure, but also the worst. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:48 No, you're like, all right, I'm just imagining like Grotsnick accidentally coming along on the big docker and ending up in some kind of color. in room and him being like, oh, Zog. This is going to be fun type of stuff. Much later, Volton is found by his old Grot on Grotsnick's pain wagon. The Grot remarks that Volton is looking a bit bigger than he was before. Volton asked the Grot to remind him of his name, and the Grot told him, you're Volton. Volton thanked him and asked the Grot to always remind him of who he was,
Starting point is 01:16:22 because when Grotsnick was done with him, he wanted to be his own. Ork and not whatever he was becoming. The Grot promised to do so, but he couldn't take his eyes off of Volton's new eye that had a bit of a funny glow to it. A glow made brighter by the green that was trapped in that orb. Whatever the patient had become is now Grotson's next big creation. And who knows what this means for the while going forward? Poor Volton. He's the experiment and he's getting big.
Starting point is 01:16:52 He's getting big. Let's go. I think it's fair to say after all of that. Grotsnick, legend, and also terrifying. Full of eels. Absolutely horrible. Full of eels. Absolutely full of eels.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Too true. He's insane. Yeah. Even by orc standards, he's out of his fucking mind. Not just out of his mind, but also like a scary. really intelligent with it. Like if he was just a nutter and he was cutting limbs off people and graft him on to other people, it would be like, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:30 He's just a pain boy at that point then. Yeah, it's like, it's upsetting, but it's, okay, but it, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, but he knows the word bequeathed, for God's sakes. He does know the word bequeath. That's actually really true. That's, that's, that's really bad to hear. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:54 These orcs are getting too damn smart Inquisitor We have some new intelligence There's an orc that knows the word bequeathed Holy shit Stop everything Stop everything Get me all the assassins
Starting point is 01:18:08 This cannot be allowed to continue Wait where's Vangerich We need him back Yeah Fire everything Man Vangarich was the right guy He was the right to do for the job He knew what he needed to do
Starting point is 01:18:23 which was kill everyone in charge. I mean, in 40K, that's usually the answer. It really is, actually, yeah. Normally, it's okay. The planetary governor or the high lords are insane. Just get them all out of here. That's very goofy. He's insanely smart in the book,
Starting point is 01:18:45 but that depends on the personality that is currently on. Sometimes he's super well-spoken, but at one point he just becomes a feral lunatic that attacks everything on site like a zombie. I'm imagining him I didn't read the book But I can imagine him doing something Where he's upset with the personality in his brain
Starting point is 01:19:03 So I was like I'm just gonna fix this right now He starts punching himself in the head really hard Until eventually something shifts Just like scanning through the channels On like an old TV Just trying to get the right one to hook in Yep there we go Now I can do my job
Starting point is 01:19:21 Instead of try and eat this guy's face Me taking the white, yellow and red cables to put in the back of the TV and accidentally swapping the red and the yellow so when I turn my TV on it goes and I realize I gotta stop that back Hey I'm man I'm
Starting point is 01:19:38 Thank God for H-DMI Screw it The Mad Doc Very He's funny He's insane Humorous and entertaining I think he might be a new favorite
Starting point is 01:19:50 Honestly Just absolutely Bat-shit behavior All round But with a purple us. And I know I've said this before. And he knows the word bequeathed. And that by itself, that is at least plus two points. How yeah? Knowing the word bequeathed is that is quite impressive. By Ork's standards,
Starting point is 01:20:09 that's like, you know, it's upper echelon intelligence, right? That's 100%. Yeah. Absolutely 100%. Gough is Eels. Yeah, we do mention a lot of stuff from the book, but I have been told it's very much worth reading, especially considering that Possum and Shai, both consider it some of the best orc books out there. Yeah, and again, to stress that Possom isn't just saying that, because, you know, he had to read The War of the Beast.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Actually, aside from that, one of the top favorite orc books of all time. Like, that's, that is a glowing industry. endorsement. And, and shy doesn't exactly dole out praise like it's going out of style either. So if shy thinks it's a good orc book, then this is got to have a little zest to it. A little bit of a zest, a little zest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:11 All right. Well, all that aside, thank you so much, everyone. Uh, I bequeath to you this ending. Just.

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