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Just a little bit
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we are talking about the new squats
oh the league of o tan
yet the leagues of o tan let's go
leagues right
can i just make people mad by saying league of votan
well if you said league of legends
then we have a whole problem on our hands
oh the misery
should be
should I please post the cat
if when we get to that part I really like that cat
silly little cat
Looks like my cat. I have to enjoy that meme now.
It's a face around.
Yes, the leagues of Votan.
So, they were obviously revealed.
So squats.
Actually, we should go back a little bit.
Squats were a topic we did a while ago.
That was our DK-led episode.
Let's go, squads.
I'm sure Shai will link in the description or just look up squats for us.
We did an episode on the squats in their old lore way, way, way,
way back when.
So obviously the squads were gone, gone to hiding,
whatever the hell they were doing.
And now...
They were mostly genocided, right?
By the nids, if I'm not mistaken, right?
Yeah, for no particular reason,
other than Games Workshop was just like,
hey, we fucked this up.
Like, we really fucked up space dwarfs.
So that we...
Oh, boy, let's just eat them.
Let's be done with it.
Just eat them.
Yeah.
So they decided to bring them back, of course.
The squads have returned.
And they are the leagues of Votam.
And it just so happened that, like, in typical fashion,
Luton had our brainwaves and made a video on that himself, you bastard.
Damn you, Luton.
We were already preparing on this shit.
They were just like, the squads returned.
But did they?
I'm like, oh, my God, Luton, you can read my memories and my minds.
But so Games Workshop came out with a little article called
The Leagues of Votan are coming,
but what actually is a Votam?
And it's a little one-page thing with some new art images and a little bit of their background lore talking about what their stick is.
Oh, cool.
And it's really fucking cool.
Yeah, all right, sweet.
I didn't even know this existed.
It just came out recently.
I remember when squats got revealed everyone.
Everyone was asking me about squats.
And for me, I'm never really a big fan of the whole space dwarf thing.
I always thought it was kind of silly.
I mean, 40K is silly, obviously.
But it wasn't my aesthetic.
I never really played dwarfs.
I don't play Deep Rock Galactic.
You know, I just, I'm not that kind of,
that's not my kind of thing, but this, I am genuinely excited
for this now.
Wow, you don't Rockin Stone?
I, it's one of those things where, like, I know I should play it.
Yeah, it seems like it'd be right up your alley with, uh,
with some friends.
Like, that game is great.
I know.
I love that game.
I know, I'll, I'll certainly get there at some point.
It's just, like, it's on my list for this year,
just haven't gotten onto the list.
Yeah.
I'm just shocked you haven't yet.
It's one of those things that everyone...
It's like, oh, yeah, you've got to be like,
you were there day one.
And it's like, oh.
No, everyone talks about it,
but I never, I never ended up playing it.
Now that everyone talks so much about it
and keeps telling me to play it,
I'm trying to like find a good time to play it
where it's like a really, really like good set
time frame and it's really, like, you know,
that whole doubt with you.
Anywho, the leagues of Votam
are really interesting.
I mean, I can basically,
read this entire article verbatim
if I needed to, because it's not very long
at all. The idea
what they're trying to do is discuss what in the world
of Votan is.
And they refer to something called
the Kinn.
And so there's
the Votam, and then there
are the KIN. And I believe
that the KIN are referred to as
the squats themselves.
Okay. So they're known as
KIN. Perhaps that'll be the name of the unit. The unit's
just like, KIN squad, whatever the hell. They are.
They are the leagues of the Votan.
And so the Kim do not talk about Votan outside,
or by any outsiders.
It is a sacred custom and is dealt with with sensible caution.
They use the word plenty, the Votan, the Votan,
but no one really knows what they are outside of the league.
And the reason for this is because if,
apparently the leagues of Votan are in an uneasy alliance with the Imperium.
So they are technically alive with the Imperium, but if they were to reveal what they have, it would crumble quickly because the Votam is a, quote, ancestor core, super cogitators, and gestalt repositories of inherited wisdom and knowledge.
It is a big fucking AI.
Oh.
What is it?
Oh.
It is a gigantic AI.
slash STC, and it says here that some
had developed idiosyncrasies
what might be termed personalities.
Oh, boy.
So they're sitting on a giant
potentially dark age STC
AI?
Poss, I think.
I mean, I'm not sure if they're
technically an STC
because STC standard, if I'm not mistaken,
was standard template construct.
Oh, oh, right.
If it was an STC,
would be the template to build
something like that. Right, right, you're right.
These appear to be
enormous data banks, basically.
Like, a gigantic, I mean,
every computer
is a calculator. Yeah.
In a sense, you know, a giant
hardcore calculator.
This is a super
calculator, and as it says,
Gestalt repositories
of inherited wisdom and knowledge.
So it's a giant,
fucking data bank slash supercomputer slash AI.
Damn.
Is it to the point where the Imperium would consider it heresy?
Yes.
Oh.
So they really don't want to be talking about this thing.
And they want to keep these things a big secret because it's...
Says, uh, each league has its own Votan, central to its way of life.
And no Kim would hesitate to lay down their...
lives to protect it.
These venerable cogitators are as sacred to the kin as gods as they are to more spiritual
races.
That's the sort of thinly adeptist mechanicus has strong opinions on.
Strong opinions on, eh?
Yes.
That's interesting.
So, like, at any point, if the Imperium found out about what a Votan is, shit would
potentially hit the fan.
particularly the admec i'm assuming because yeah it appears that they are reveling as these votan
as their gods which they basically means they are they are having a i as their gods which is like
mega heresy i was gonna say to the admec that would be like ultra heresy that'd be like
heresy speed run any percent any percent 100 percent all bosses yeah all bosses yeah all
bosses, oh boy.
So the Imperium has no idea what a Votan is,
and they don't understand why they're called the League of Votan,
or the Leagues of Votan?
So to remind you this is a single page of script here.
There is not, yeah, there's only a single page of text,
and it's mainly a little teaser.
Gotcha.
But it is certainly very interesting, see this.
So like this said, the word,
Votan is used plenty.
They are the leagues of Votan, but what a Votan is
is not discussed.
Oh, okay.
So they know of its existence, but it's kept
quite secret. And if you notice in
the picture Shai posted,
their armor is pretty
tacked out.
They don't really
have the, everything
is a cathedral
kind of issue with
Admec and like, I mean
Marines are a little bit more high techie, but
that looks like more
genuine sci-fi
space age armor he has like a tabard on
and like a little cloak sure oh yeah it looks really
great actually yeah a bunch of tats on his
face too um
but if you'll notice he has like the little
I'm assuming that's the little bits of their
language coming out in this like AI
blurts of code and it looks like he actually
has that inscribed upon his cape
little tabard there and maybe even his face
oh yeah
oh yeah
It does look like that.
That's actually a really cool picture.
The leagues of O-Tan look very cool.
They're definitely, they're very chunky, but they're, despite being squats,
they still seem like decently proportions, which is interesting.
And, yeah, and their armor looks like big.
It looks like, it looks like giant diving suits in space kind of deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're big daddies.
Now, let's hope they are.
It says here, within these self-organized,
data stacks and quantum info cores is held all the information a people might need to survive
among the stars. Weapon specifications, military theory, genealogy, data, science, philosophy,
and even standard template constructs. So let's make this clear. Standard epit constructs are not
what a votan is. A votan has one, possibly plural. So we all saw what an STC did to the
Mad mek would it just ribbed the shit out of that one guy?
Yeah.
So if this one has all of these things and the possibility of not one but multiple standard template constructs in one singular votan...
Wow.
It says there is an unimaginable wealth of lore buried in each votam, which cannot be allowed to fall into the more superstitious hands of outsiders.
Oh, wow.
So they have a lot of really important tech or potential tech.
Man, like, it's getting to the point where I'm starting to think that, like, the leagues of
Votan and the Imperium wouldn't actually be friends?
Like, I know you said it was kind of a shaky truce and alliance, but I feel like if the
Imperium knew half of the shit
that the Votans had,
they would just pillage and
plunder them.
Well, oh, they would, yeah, I must say maybe
more so pillage, or destroy,
you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And take it
for their own and give it to like the admec or something.
Like they have STCs.
That's such a big deal.
What are the Nekrons would think about this?
Yeah, what would Trazen think?
Oh, he'd be like, dope.
I'm gonna steal one of these Votans, baby.
Get in the vault.
All right, Shai threw out a quote here.
It says,
The creation of Asilica animus, AI,
is a terrible crime under imperial law
by the decree of the emperor of mankind himself,
as stated in the Treaty of Mars
which united the ancient Mechanica of Mars
with the Imperium of Terra.
Tradition holds that such unholy constructs
are inherently evil
and a pervert abomination in the sight of the Omnisiah.
Oh, boy.
Ha.
I was going to say, like, I don't know how the ad mech are going to get along with the leagues of O-Tan.
Like, their very existence in everything they have is like spitting in the face of the ad me, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, they're not going to get along right.
Oh, she has another one for me.
All right.
Although their civilization shares common roots with humanity, the leagues of Votan have an uneasy relationship.
have an uneasy relationship with the Imperium of Man.
Unlike their superstitious human cousins,
the leagues emerged from the age of strife
with far more of their ancient technology intact,
including some infamous advances
the Imperium would consider extremely heretical.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
I do like that they're still keeping with the idea
that they've got like sort of dark-aged tech
that they've been advancing because they were sort of ice-old.
isolated in the age of strife.
Like, they wouldn't know what the,
what the Imperium thinks is heretical,
because they were cut off.
They kind of just had to, I'm assuming,
they were cut off and they just had to, like, survive.
And they were like, oh, shit, if we have to survive,
let's make these crazy advancements.
No one told us it was against the law.
What that fuck?
You know how when you meet a random stranger sometimes,
and you start up a conversation,
and you're just talking about your day or whatever,
and then immediately the lady next to you
that you're talking to for the last 10 minutes
it's like well God has plans
for all of us and his divine light
blesses you today and then you have
to immediately adjust how you speak
to this person. Oh yeah.
That's what I imagine they were like
they're like oh it's the Imperium and they were like
the God Emperor of mankind seeks
why you are here and like
oh okay we need all right we need
to adjust how we talk to these people
we got to send a letter back home
and tell them not to let the Imperium
know about the supercomputer
computer ayes that we made.
You get some religious
religious fruitcake energy
going on there with the Imperium.
And so I can absolutely imagine
them just being like, oh,
oh my God, okay, hold up, back up,
let's keep this quiet. And granted, they are dwarves
and dwarves don't like to talk about their stuff
much. True, true, true.
Um, oh, Shai said they're also living proof that you
don't need to do the horrible shit the Imperium does
to survive in the shittiness of 40K.
We don't know what they do.
I have to hold that back a little bit
because they also treat these AI cogitators as gods.
Yeah.
And what they could have done in the name of their gods
could be a tad.
Well, I don't know what they've been doing.
Little suss.
Little suss.
I also do like the, like them being kind of isolated
could explain also like why their armor looks the way it does
and why they don't have the usual, like, the seals
and all the little scrolls hanging off them,
because they've been isolated.
They don't know what the fuck is up.
I kind of like that.
I like the idea that they're like,
oh, yeah, we're just coming out of the age of strife.
They look like diving suits, yeah, like they're big chunky.
Though there is one part of this I want to read also.
It says, of course, the 41st millennium being what does,
not all as well among the votam.
It turns out that even machines of near limitless power
can eventually run out of memory.
Whoever first created these marvels
did not design them for tens of thousands of years
of constant operation,
and the sheer weight of data
they are forced to compute
has begun to slow them down.
Some have developed into idiosyncrasies,
what might be deemed,
or term personalities,
when once the kin would have received
an answer to a tough question
a matter of moments,
as the 41st millennium comes to a close,
some Votan can take decades
or even centuries to deliver
the same solution.
Day by day, year by year,
the ancestor corps
become more eccentric
and mercurial.
So they're getting old, eh?
I'm
visualizing dwarves
that don't know how to use a computer.
And it's like when you go to your
mother's ancient aging
at laptop and there are 40 tabs
of Google Chrome open.
Or gateway PC.
Yeah. And it has like 40 tabs.
Oh,
Oh, this is why.
Yep.
And I'm starting to bookofgrudges.exe run.
So if anything ever happened to these votans, right?
Like let's say they've been going for 10,000 years,
their processing power has slowed,
and one just breaks.
Uh-oh.
They wouldn't know what to do, would they like,
I mean, it was built so long.
ago, I'm assuming they wouldn't be able to fix it.
And like, what is the, what do the kin do with one of their gods breaks?
I, I don't know.
But there's the also thing that says they developed personalities and it become more eccentric.
Like, they're becoming sentient.
Sentient AIs are always a bad idea.
They're personality developing.
And specifically the words eccentric and mercurial.
Can I get, like, are one of these votes?
hand just going to be some sassy ass fucker
who's constantly like
Lamow get fucked kind of character
he sends people out and that's this
special rules for this league of Votam
if your entire league is from the same army
you get special ability
go fuck yourself
after defeating an enemy
punch your opponent in the face
like are they gonna
I remember when I was playing
I was playing Destiny
I was playing the new
the new raid
vow of disciple
and as it goes on
the main boss of that raid, Rolk, is very, uh, he kind of gets, he kind of gets more angry.
He has this like drown in the deep, like you will drown in darkness, this kind of thing.
And as time goes on, as you keep getting past his offense, he gets a little bit more molding.
And then if you look at your, uh, look at your mission requirements at the end of the game,
or when you fight him, it's just in all caps, no spaces, drown, drown, drown.
He's like, he's furious.
He's like molding so hard.
Damn.
So I'm imagining this.
AI just starts to get really upset.
Just a molding AI, yeah.
It's very, it's a curiousness because, so I'm visualizing it in the sense of gameplay a little bit, right?
The squats, if they're like fantasy dwarves, they're going to be very tanky.
That's just, they should be.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they're also probably going to be very slow.
Naturally.
But, which is actually doubling humorous, because one, slow because size.
and probably slow because perhaps computing power.
Yeah, yeah.
They've also got very chunky armor,
so they probably should be weighed down a little bit.
I'm curious,
I feel like they're going to be a combination of the death guard and the admec,
where instead of, like, poisoning your opponent as the death guard,
you instead kind of super buff your own weapons and armor,
admec style,
which makes this very immovable line.
But I'm imagining that with these,
with the kin
their votans being so slow
and taking so much time
and developing these strange
these strange personalities
makes it literally the idea
that their god
has a personality
yeah
and shy made a good mention
it says GW Ryan makes a good point
and they're reliable weapons
so they don't need to bless their weapons
and stuff like they're probably going to hit
really accurately and very hard
probably kind of towel-like
Yeah. Oh man, the, man, the admec are really not going to like them.
As long as they, well, dwarves don't talk much when they don't have to in the sense of like, or reveal much, they're spiteful pricks.
And if they can figure out like a, oh my God, the repository of grudges.
The repository of grudges.
Is that a thing or did you just make that up on the spot?
No, but in fantasy, in Sigma, so the dwarfs with a book of grudges
where they literally have a book of grudges.
I didn't know there was actually a book of grudges.
No, they actually have a book of grudges.
Oh, shit.
These people have wronged me and they write their name in the book.
One of my favorite sound clips is this guy screeching the top of his lungs like,
this is going in the fucking book.
I never heard
Yeah, they have a book of grudges
Well, good for them
The repository of grudges
It's just going in the
repository
I feel like there's
There's no way the leagues of O-10
aren't going to be Scottish
Oh, fair enough
Fair enough
There's no way they're not going to be Scottish
They have to be Scottish
Have to be, absolutely have to be
Can I get a special ability
called the Glasgow Kiss?
Oh hell yeah, dude
fucking, fucking
just runs up
Yeah, on a four of you do
immortal wounds
For a head butt
Hell yeah
They got to
They got to
They've got to
They've got to
They've got to
So it's
It really throws a lot of questions
Because
The guy's gun in the little
Reveal trailer
That's like a
That has little
Blue coils
What makes look at a plasma gum
And the gun they have
In their hands
In the mini
Looks like a
It looks like a
Bolter, but also like a flamer at the same time.
Yeah, it's got that little canister
on the bottom of it that looks like it should be
fuel for, yeah, like you said, a flamer.
Or maybe they just make their own incendiary rounds, eh?
Maybe, though I'm also noticing on the gun,
I don't see any spent shell ejectors,
whatever they call that thing.
Oh, yeah.
So maybe it's like a laser gun,
and that's like the little capacitor for it.
Like a battery or a, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
I haven't thought about that.
Although I've only just seen this picture, but, you know.
It's a little bizarre.
I mean, the first one is absolutely a plasma gun.
That is clear.
Like the coils on it.
It's just a little bit of a higher tech-looking one.
And, yeah, it's kind of fascinating with that thing.
And then, of course, the actual, if you look at the image of the dude who's pointing
at all the AI junk.
I can't quite tell
but that thing on his back
it either looks like it's just
a kind of a headpiece to show that he's a captain
or it looks like it could be a
fucking sword
Oh I never know
That's totally a melee weapon
That's some kind of like
Sword or
It's the hilt of
Something
It could be or it could be like
They have like the little thing that they go over their head
It's kind of a way to symbolize rank perhaps
Though he also has like the
Cabbered in the Cape.
Yeah.
But, like, behind them, it's a little strange.
Like, behind them is very...
So the place doesn't look very imperializing,
except for all the giant cables.
Yeah.
But what is that, like, to his left?
It looks like a bunch of...
They're either, like, dudes in stasis,
or are they...
Or, like, ceremonial statues.
They look like ceremonial statues
that they would, like, almost worship.
Right, because they're...
They still look like...
kind of have an Imperium vibe, but it could be simply the, um, the art, because the art definitely
has a, has a very specific, uh, dark fantasy vibe to it, because that's where we're at. Um,
but their armor is so big and, I don't know. You know, it kind of gives me vibes of like
Prometheus, the, the alien ship with like the big, um, big, big, blue dude, whoever's
name was. Yeah. Yeah, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
The Votans behind the guy look like they are so heavily armored.
Yeah.
That is some heavy armor.
It's way heavier than this commander guy's armor.
That's like, that is like Terminator armor, but just, just armor.
Yeah.
I mean, those statues might be, um, because I know ye old squats before they got squatted.
Their big thing was that they, um, uh, they sort of like worship their lineage and their family name.
and they're like family history.
So maybe they're keeping that intact.
And that's just like their forefathers who they, you know,
they're looking down on us boys.
Could be or I mean,
I think they definitely worship these AI cogitators and the like the Votons.
Yeah.
And how they take the data from them and what they say and do.
Because then being slow is also,
is also kind of bizarre.
Like if they're slowing down so heavily in their ability to answer difficult questions,
how does that affect them in the world of 40K?
Oh, yeah.
I'm trying to figure out how they adjust.
Because I'm looking at them,
it feels like they're going to have like tau weaponry,
high tech, high level,
death guard tankiness,
and then ad mech adjustments, like on the fly stuff.
Because I can imagine them asking their big cogitator,
systems for something going on in game.
And then you're like, oh, well, you're fighting this enemy.
I know about the tirades before they're doing this thing.
And then kind of have this, this kind of, I don't know.
It's interesting to think about them because they're, they seem certainly unique,
but in a very, oh, a very, very, very weird way.
Yeah, I'm, I am, I am waiting with baited breath to see the.
the first interaction between the Imperium and the Leagues of O-Tan.
Because, like, I have no idea how these two are going to get along.
Like, you just look at the armor, you look at their weaponry, and it's like something right here.
You guys are way too advanced.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
Yeah, and then, um, the quote here, it's, uh, the new background for the leagues of
Voton built off the old lore in interesting ways, including how they interact with their ancestors.
So they, they do have the ancestor worship parts.
Oh, okay.
so that's still a thing, cool, cool.
Because yeah, I suppose you would want to build off the old lore
instead of just completely abandoning it, I guess, yeah.
Right, but then you also have it adjusted throughout the whole AI kind of concept.
And like the idea of worshipping an AI is really goddamn cool
and finding a way to worship an AI and mix in the spiteful, angry dwarves
in the 40K grim, dark universe is really fascinating.
And it's just, it's such a, like, unique concept.
And I really like it
Yeah, I am
I'm ready for more
I'm so ready for more
I don't know exactly when they're going to be coming out
We've only seen the single mini
And I know if I'm not mistaken
We've got Chaos Nights
Is I think next
Yeah, I know it's this year
They're supposed to come out this year
Oh
Which is actually soon in GW time
but they're supposed to come out this year
I know we have Chaos Nights next
and then we have another one of those
like DLC books or something
and then it should be Chaos Space Marines
after that and then probably Guard
and then
maybe World Eaters or Demons
and then you've also got
because the demons haven't had their codex yet
and this is supposed to be the year of Chaos
trademark not real
but
and then
Then the Horace Hercise is actually getting a whole bunch of new plastic models.
Oh, that's right.
I saw that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so they're getting a nice refresh because normally they're all resin.
Yeah, yeah.
So making them all plastic is really cool as well.
So there's that.
So I don't know.
I hope the Votan don't just arrive and then we get 10th edition.
That'd be really aggravating.
Brand new faction, then just gone.
Yeah, pretty much.
Pretty much.
I just want more lore on them.
Because I just think this uneasy alliance between the leagues and the Imperium is just really interesting.
It also makes for a good idea for like why you're fighting them.
They know.
They know the secrets.
I also want to, I'm also curious how they're going to, like are they still going to be really at odds with the Eldar?
And like how are they going to interact with the Eldar?
and a part of me almost imagines that the leagues are going to be sort of like the Imperium will like,
oh yeah, we'll work with the Eldar if push comes to shove, maybe.
To me, it just feels like there's no way the Imperium is always going to side with the leagues of Oton.
I would be shocked, shocked if they were always friends and didn't eventually get into some big warring spats the way they do with like the Eldar.
The
I think that they would definitely
like the Eldar less
because the dwarves
hate elves
obviously
but I don't know
the uneasy
it's always uneasy
alliances with the Eldar
it's never a constant thing
because they're just
you know
because there's a way they're
weirdos
yeah and the Eldar
and the dwarves
obvious because it's what is it's
elves and orcs
that's what they hate for most
yep in Old Lord
the elves and the orcs
both backst
stabbed the squats at the same fucking time.
And that kept it in the fucking book.
I bet they made a whole book about it.
Oh, here we go.
And while there's no love loss between the leagues of Voton and humankind,
the resurgence of chaos and ascendant Zenos hordes means there are usually more pressing concerns than fighting each other.
Ah, okay.
So it is very uneasy.
And if there was no chaos, no Zenos hordes, they would probably be.
Trying to kill each other.
They are.
They are certainly in a,
in a confusing situation.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
You,
I mean,
you need a reason for everyone to kill each other.
Like,
that's just,
like,
you need that.
That's,
that's part of the damn game.
You want to fight each other.
Everyone needs to be able to kill each other at some point.
Yep.
In the tabletop,
it's totally canon that the fucking leagues of Votown would fight the Imperium,
yeah,
because they're,
oh,
the heresy.
They're just,
they're just bathing in heresy.
That's interesting
I'm curious
I don't got much else for this episode
That's why I was mainly just discussion
And thinking about it
But I'm already sold
I'm hyped
I'm hyped up for more whatever
As far as the leagues of O-Tan are concerned
Anything just throw something out there
I'm ready
I'm good
This is the
This is the reason why GW lore
It can be hit or miss
But if there's anything it is
it's always unique.
Yes.
It's always interesting.
40K, if nothing else, is always unique and interesting.
I will give them that.
So we now we just need to make sure that they go the right direction.
And lately they've been doing well.
The most recent massive lore change, I think, was the sisters.
They're big redo.
They're big, um...
Oh, and the Cron's.
And the Cron.
Sisters and Cron's have been getting,
a bunch of the new, like, resurgence of lore, and both have been pretty stellar.
Yeah.
Those, those Kron books have been incredible.
Haven't had a bad Kron book so far.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, I mean, that's about it.
You know, I didn't have time to research a major episode because of Boston, but I'm
glad we got to talk about this and discuss it a little bit.
It's really fascinating.
And, like, keep it coming.
More articles.
Please.
Show us some more minis.
I want to see what their fucking tanks look like.
Oh, yeah, what their big machines look like.
Yeah.
Hell, yes.
Can you imagine, because every army has multiple options.
Like, even though the death guard are slow, they still have, like, fast attack options and stuff like that.
I want to see some dwarves with, like, a big fucking backpack jetpack.
Just watch him blasting his way through.
You think they're going to do, because way back with the squats, they had like those,
those big artillery cannons in like these big trains that had cannons on them i wonder if they're gonna bring
back like squat trains squat oh my god damn squat trains like actual trains and like the they've got
i mean they've got to have some ridiculous heavy artillery right oh imagine this imagine each
section of a train is actually an individual unit and you can uh reassemble and disassemble
x y z robot ugeo level shit oh hell yeah so
it's actually like a giant like fucking snake that just sort of, ah, that'd be so cool.
And your opponent can target a specific section of the train so that it breaks off and then you
have to like deal with two units instead of one or something.
Oh, that's so cool.
Yeah, if the middle part gets broken off, you can't reconnect them.
Ah, that'd be great.
Normally, normally I'd say that this is, um, this is too interesting for GW, but this has been a
really interesting little article they got.
So God knows what they're going to pull out.
Who knows?
Oh, man.
now I want to see what their heavy artillery is like.
I really want to see it, damn it.
And it's probably going to be super high tech, too,
because I got the photons telling them how to build it,
and they might have STC's.
I want more now.
I'm very curious.
What if...
For some reason, I was just thinking to myself,
like, one of the photons is just Sir Gideon.
Sir Gideon.
From Eldon Ring, because he's the all-knowing.
Oh, yeah.
That would fit.
And what is your Votan?
Like Sir Gideon Offner.
The all knowing.
The loathsome dung eater.
The loathsome dung eater.
The way the narrator just belts that out.
He's a king.
Yes, he is.
All right.
Votan.
Vote on.
Keep it coming.
Yes.
Come in, Gw.
This is very interesting.
More.
More.
More.
More.
All right, goodbye.
This is going into the book of grudges.
