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Welcome everybody to another episode of Adeptus Ridiculous.
The book club this time.
My name is Bricky.
Joining me is D.K. Diamantis.
That's me.
And that's him.
And today we are reviewing slash discussing the final book of the Night Lord's Omnibus and trilogy.
Void stalker, or better known as All My Homies Hate Syrian.
Yeah.
Fuck Syrian.
All my homies hate Syrian.
Spoilers.
Fucker.
Anyway.
We haven't said why yet, though, so it's...
That's true.
Mysteries.
So if you were not aware, this is the third book of the trilogy for the Night Lords,
written by Aaron Dembsky Bowden.
We listened to it on Audible, narrated by Andrew Wincott,
who is very good at his job.
Oh, yes.
And the next book club will be doing,
since we have hit October,
will be an October book.
We are, will be listening to Brutal Cunning.
Let's go.
For the first time, me and D.K.
Neither of us have read this,
and it has been a request.
We were going to do Kai Kai Kai Kivis Kame, but considering the month, we decided to...
It's October. You got to do the works, man.
We decided to hold that off.
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Buy our merch. All right. So. So Voidstocker.
Well, first impression, good, bad, and where would you rate it in the three?
I would... I think Voidstocker was probably my favorite one.
Ooh, more than Blood Reaver.
more than Blood Reaver, because I think you get a lot more conflict in this one. You get a lot more like inner turmoil with Talos and a little more development with Talos.
Talos really comes across as a big fucking villain in this book. Oh, yeah.
In Blood Reaver, it was kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, he's trying to get his shit back so he's being real like, you know, he's being hard because he's, you know, got to get the echo back.
and in Soul Hunter
it's like well you know
you're fighting the Imperium
you got to be kind of whatever
and Voidstocker
who boy
he's a bad guy
that is my number one
best attribute to
to Voidstocker I put it as number two
I think I think the marine books
are always the best when they have a lot of
human characters to contrast
and there was a lot more of that in Blood Reaver
in fact Septimus and Octavia
really take a back seat in this book
Yeah, until the sort of later-ish parts, they really do.
There's not a lot of Septimus and Octavia.
Well, I guess in the start of the book, Septimus, boy.
But, yes, the best part of this book, besides the fact that the action scenes are pretty good,
but the number one, I'd say, best part of this entire novel is reminding you, like,
these are night lords.
Yeah.
You've gotten used to them being your, your, uh,
protagonists, and they still are, but let's remind you real quick what these people are like.
They are evil.
They take evil to a whole new tier.
Like, it's, oh, boy, the things they do to innocent civilians is like, oh.
It's kind of a, it's a good reminder.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, these are not good people.
These are not your heroes do not look up to them.
So it starts off, Talos had a vision where he's been asleep for nearly two months.
and during this period of time
he's no longer able to see his visions anymore
he can't remember them
but he ordered the Echo of Damnation
to make its way over to
Saguelza
The Carrion world
The home of the screaming gallery
And where Conrad Kurz died
He doesn't really remember why he did that
But he did it
And
You know, this is a part I would mention
Deck in the Blood Reaver Days.
He had that conversation with Riven, his bones,
in the beginning of this book.
Yes, he did.
Well, yeah, that's right.
It was his bones.
He does have that dream where he's talking to Ruvan.
And doesn't Rufin say, like, your undoing will be the fact
that you went back to the eastern fringes or the eastern rift to Seguelso?
And he's like, no, I didn't.
Why would I fucking do that?
You're stupid, Ruben.
And he wakes up and like, hey, guess what?
We're at Seiguelse.
He's like, what?
we're where
I really like his conversation with
Ruvian because as much of a bastard as Rufan is
he makes good points often
He does
And it's funny because like
Talos starts making a lot of the same points
That Ruvan made in in that little dream
Where Riven was like yeah
We're so stagnant
We're so happy with being so static
And nobody wants to win the war
And that's why I betrayed you
Because Abidon is trying to win
He's actually trying to hurt the Imperium.
He's not happy with just, like, surviving and causing terror against, like, these weak little guys that have no challenge.
And that was the conflict between Talos and Zarl, where eventually, with time, Talos kind of took the side of Ruvon.
Yeah.
Where he was like, I want to fucking live.
And Zarl was always the kind of like, ah, who cares?
Yeah, we're fine the way we are now.
We're good.
We don't have to stress.
And, yeah.
Which led to what might be the best monologue in the whole series
where he's yelling at Zarl.
Oh, yeah.
And he's like, I'm going to burn everyone and throw the ashes on the Everest Palace.
Yep.
I mentioned that in the Night Lord's extra episode we did, that quote.
Mm-hmm.
And they had to hold him back from, like, going after Zarl.
He was going to, like, full on, like, ooh, that was brutal.
Yeah, he fucking throat-punched Varyl.
out of the way.
Like, damn.
But before that,
when he wakes up,
if they fought,
Zara would have fucking destroyed him.
Oh, Zarl slaughters everybody.
He's such a shit.
Zara would have fucked him up, dude.
Good thing.
That was like one of those,
dude, hold me back, hold me back.
Swing first, man, swing first.
Hold me back.
Don't let me go.
Hold me back.
I want to look good.
The, um,
but,
uh,
backing that up,
he visits Octavia's chambers
after waking up.
And they have a conversation back and forth, yada, yada, yada.
And then he's like, oh my God, she's pregnant.
Yeah, for like the first whole time, he's like, something's different.
You wear a new perfume?
Do you do something with your hair?
And it's like, no, what are you talking about?
And then he can like hear the second heartbeat and he's like,
Motherfucker!
He's like, I'm a, he says, I'm a fool.
And he just leaves.
And then he proceeds to beat the fuck out of Septimus.
the shit out of Septimus.
Oh my God.
A part of me thought that Septimus was just going to die right there.
I was like, oh my God.
She got close.
Yeah, he did.
I was like, oh my God, is this a book going to start out with Talos literally killing
Septimus over impregnating Octavia?
And then Septimus was like, Talos, go eat shit.
That's right.
He told him to eat shit in his traman.
Yeah, and I think the only reason that Talos didn't kill him is because he was like
two years or two months comatose
and he's like I can barely feel
my muscles. Yeah. Pain.
I told you
not to, because she's the most important thing
on the ship. She can't be having like
you know, labor issues and be like
her health can't be compromised. She's the fucking
navigator. Can you imagine if she's
piloting the ship through the warp and she goes into labor?
Like what's going to happen? Oh.
Like, oh my God, what's going to happen?
I don't know.
Do navigator children have
Do they inherit the eye?
The third eye?
So apparently the navigator gene
is incredibly recessive.
So often when two navigators mate,
they might not even have a navigator child.
Oh.
But if she mates with Septimus,
there's a damn good chance that there's no freaking way that's going to be.
Yeah, there's like a less than 1% chance
if it's already hella recessive.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, but yes, he gets his ass
beat. You know what's interesting?
The entire time, Tallas is like,
I'm gonna, if you do this again,
I'm gonna skin you and hang you in
black market and all these words. Like, he has
like a million threats. Yeah.
And then he says, if you, like,
if you don't fucking shape up,
I will let Vario flay you. And I'm like,
that's worse than everything you said.
Yeah, that's, that is so much worse.
Anything varial based.
Yeah. And he's like, I, he was like,
oh yeah, I'll make sure that you survive
the flaying.
and that all like your arms and your legs are removed and you're just a cowring skinless thing
and then like I'll I think there was one last thread in there that I was like oh my god like this
that's really fucked up like he was going to show him his heart or something or he was going to feed him
his eyes as he was like a skinless armless thing and it was like oh honestly all of the threats
meant nothing to me until he said vario oh okay back it up you don't want to end up
up on Vario's table.
You really,
well,
you don't want to end up
on Talus's table
either,
but yeah,
Vario,
yes.
But so they had,
so this is arguably
the best part of,
so after this,
he kind of,
Talas kind of had to have
this little,
like,
moment of clarity.
And so that's when they started,
he started yelling at Zarl
and he had the big old speech.
Yeah.
Which was very,
it's such a good speech.
I love that.
It was a really great speech,
yeah.
But then they get,
to, they go down to Seguelso
and we get a
wonderful little bit
where you see it from the
eyes of like this old kind of militia
guy down there. Yeah, the arch regent
I think. Well you get the arch region
who's like the, he's like the president, the leader.
Oh right, right, right. But no, there was like that other
old man, militia man
with his las gun and
he was like, ah, what the storm shouldn't
be here yet, what the heck? He like had a heart
attack and died. Oh, right. Yeah.
And I like
I like the dialogue in that part
because he's like
whatever his name picks up his last gun
which works fine, thank you very much.
It's just like small little
tidbits of like that in the writing.
Yeah. It's very good.
On Sigelso, at that time,
they probably wouldn't have had to use it
very often. I mean, the worst thing they got to worry about
is like sandstorms. Although they don't call it
Sigelso. They call it what, Descartes?
Dakarta or something like that.
They don't even know what's called...
They don't know where they are.
Darkana.
Darkana.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Arcana.
Yes, because that's the name of their ship.
Mm-hmm.
They have no idea what planet they've even landed on.
They didn't know it was Seguelza.
They didn't know it was the Carrian world.
They didn't know this was the abandoned night lord's home planet.
Or second home planet, I guess.
Yes, they're a little fleeing planets.
But yes, then we get a wonderful montage of a Vario,
down the street, like having like four corpses hanging off of his body chain.
He's like dragging them through the street.
You've got you got like a little girl hiding in her basement.
And then this fucking Nightlord walks says like, I can smell you here.
Yep.
It's like blazing red eyes.
Lucorapus is like flying around just grabbing people and dropping them.
Yep.
Yep.
This is also the one where like people are trying to like escape and they're like, oh my God,
open the bunker.
Open the bunker.
We got to get it.
Holy shit.
And then again, it's just, it's just, just ooze us.
Just ooze with his fucking chain axe, just revving it.
And it's like, uh, oh.
Let us out, let us out.
It's like skulls for the eighth legion.
He's like got blood up to his, his like knee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not what you want to open the, the cargo bay doors, dude.
That's not.
It is nuts that the protagonist, that they are literally showing a,
an ironic, like, like, this is not.
9-11 level stuff.
Like this is panic in the streets.
People are screaming with their children and they're running around.
And there is our opposing force flying around and throwing their bodies into skinning pits.
Yep.
And-born genocide.
And these are our protagonists.
And you still like them.
Yeah.
These are helpless innocence.
These aren't, this isn't like a military outpost.
These are men, women, elder.
children just getting skinned alive and tortured because they just found the wrong planet.
It is very, very night lords and in a sense really fun because of it, but like, you know, naturally,
obviously terrible.
Yeah.
But there's a certain point of it where I'm kind of thinking to myself, damn, as fucked as this is,
it's kind of nice that they're being night lords again.
Ah, yeah.
Because again, in the last couple books, they kind of almost seemed, I don't want to say nice,
but you kind of forgot how savage they were.
Well, they were almost always fighting either other chaos,
specifically the Black Legion or the Red Corsairs,
or they were fighting Imperial Space Marines,
which, like the Blood Angels, which carved their way through Black Market anyway.
Yeah.
I mean, that's war, right?
Right. So in a sense, there's a little bit of war there.
This is full-blower.
Like, this is the night lords doing what they think is fun.
Yeah.
And the night-ards feel justified because it's like, oh, how dare the Imperium settle on our dead world?
It was supposed to be, it was supposed to remain.
How dare you?
We're justified in this genocide.
And it's like, whoa.
Okay.
Okay.
Whatever.
Yeah.
And plus, and you know, this moves on over to another issue.
well not an issue I had but
you know
our good
I guess said before
I remember we had a couple of people
commenting on the last book club
when I was talking about Octavia
and how Octavia is I think
used as a storytelling crutch
her inability to pilot
properly
which like
yes
it makes sense from a logical
perspective but it feels
cheap from a storytelling perspective.
Yeah.
Like, don't get me wrong.
Like, it makes complete sense. It's not like illogical.
It's just upsetting because she did not notice a warp beacon that was there for the Genesis
Space Marine chapter, a subchapter of the Ultramarines.
Woo!
The fucking blueberries have a bunch of strawberries as their cousins.
Of course.
Of course they do.
So, of course, they end up assaulting the echo when they're down causing havoc.
So they make their way back up to go deal with them.
In which there is quite the fight.
And this lasts for like five chapters.
It's a long time that they're fending off the genesis.
Space Marines.
It's a while.
It's a very long time
and not only that,
but you get a whole bunch
of Lucorapus and Deltrian
during this part.
Yes.
Lucorapus is my favorite character
of this book.
Lucorpus is pretty great.
I'm very impressed
with how much they made him awesome.
It's kind of his book.
Mm-hmm.
He had so many spotlight moments.
Deltrian was what
trying to repair the...
The...
The voyage shield generator.
Oh man.
And Lucorfer just saves the...
Because otherwise, Deltran is fucking dead.
Oh, he's...
Well, Deltion got shot in, like, the ribs by a bolter.
Lucifer swoops in, takes care of that.
And then his...
I keep forgetting his assistant's name.
Oh, Lacuna Absolutus.
Absolutus.
He's stuck on the other side of the ship,
but they're about to jump to fucking warp.
They have less than a minute.
And Lucorapus covers the...
He covers like half the ship on his jump jets,
swoops around,
gets this Genesis Space Marine,
grabs him, like, out of his fucking boots or something.
Like, cuts him in half.
His boots are still, like, his legs are still attached to the hole,
and he just...
And he still saves the assistant.
And gets him to safety,
and gets him in before they get ripped apart by going to warp.
It's pretty funny.
Deltrian was like, have you ever seen someone that's been ripped apart by the warp?
And Lucorapus was like, why?
Yes, I have.
Yes, I have.
Because of course he has.
I was in Blood Reaver, right?
Didn't he watch his, well, was he watching?
That was Vario.
Yeah, there was Vario.
Right, right.
Lecoraphas wasn't watching that, but still.
It's one of those moments where Lecorapis begrudgingly is like,
I'll save your fucking assistant.
Yeah.
You know, this slight act of quote, unquote, heroism for a barely mentally, like, aware, servitor slave.
Yep, yep.
But it was a very important servitor slave.
Like, didn't Deltrian say that there was something he could do that he couldn't really program another servitor to do or something?
No, I think it was, I think he was just had a little bit more of his mind still with him.
But not only just that, but also there was the part of, it was like, I think it was kind of that idea where Deltrian kind of likes him and doesn't want his assistant to die.
And that's like the remnants of his humanity kind of seeping through.
So I think it was more on that side.
But yes, this leads to many, many wonderful parts as they're flying around.
But then we get to the part.
The part.
We get to the Genesis champion,
which I will not lie,
Telemian, was kind dope.
He was very dope.
He had a thunderhammer,
a tower shield,
which is very rare,
because the tower shield,
like, it's from your feet to your head.
And like a little, like a imperial wing
covering his face and like a Terminator shoulder pad.
Yep.
And he walked in there and is like, pulls out this stupid blueberry ass.
Like, I am the bane of heretics speech and all this shit.
It proceeds to fucking body.
Oh, yeah.
First claw.
Oh, man.
He fucks up Talos.
He fucks up Uzzas.
I think I'm pretty sure he fucks up everybody except Zarl.
Well, he hits Mercur, Mercut.
Mercutian because the Thunderhammer
basically with a single strike
knocked out almost everybody
and even
after the fight, Syrian was like
or Tau's like, I've never been hit
by a Thunderhammer before
Syrian says being thankful it was glancing.
It didn't feel glancing.
It's like if you're alive, it was glancing.
But he hits McCutian so
hard in his backpack, it explodes.
And his entire
power supply.
ghost dead.
That's,
yeah,
he,
he fucked him up.
He fucked him up,
good.
And boy,
could he wield that shield?
Like,
good,
for such a giant shield.
He was bonking.
Yeah,
he was balking.
They were in Mane,
dude.
They were.
He was bonking him.
You know,
in the,
in the tabletop,
a thunderhammer
does fucking three damage.
And like,
like,
to put that into perspective,
those power swords
that he used do like one damage.
Oh.
Like a,
like a,
like a,
Most tanks have like 12 health
Four strikes with Thunderhammer
Will blow a tank up like it's it
Wow
This is not to be fucked with
Didn't one of them say that getting hit with that
Was like getting hit by a tank
Yeah because it is actually a tank breaking weapon
He's just swinging that shit around like it's no big thing
Hooray like Jesus
It is uh
But then gets our big fight
Zoro versus Telemium
Champion versus Champion
champion.
Yep.
And that's, it's quite a long fight.
Yeah.
It is.
They fight for a while.
They beat the fuck out of each other.
Zarl has to, has to take his helmet off and proceeds to headbuttelemian's bear,
head butt his helmet.
Yeah.
And like nine times in order to get him off balance and then shank him with Talos's sword.
Yep.
He, he got mangled.
He broke his own face.
He cracked his own skull.
He did.
Doesn't he take a hit from the Thunderhammer quite a few times?
Uh, he gets glanced.
He's like trading blows.
He gets hurt a lot.
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah.
Before they started fighting, one of the, one of my favorite quotes, like, uh, Telemia was like,
Oh, her attack, this will be your doom.
And Zara was like, yeah, I can't wait for this fight to start because, uh, after we're done,
I'm going to let our slaves use your helmet as a shit bucket.
And I was like,
You're such a fucker
Oh my god
Like this guy just body it all for his claw
And you're really coming with that
I really enjoyed when he
He threw like the Genesis helmet at Televian's Free
He's like I knew this warrior
He fought with honor
And Zarl's like I know these warriors
I know they fight like every other time
Trying to run away
Like ah that's funny
They know their brothers
They know their brothers
He also starts like doing
this charge and then
I forgot how much you
13th Legion love the sound of your own
voices
like ah
ultramarine digs
ha ha ha
love it
love the night lords even more because they're
they're fucking up
a subchapter of the
fucking ultramarines
but then
but then of course
this is the nice little sweet moment where
you know Zarro picks up
Talos and he's like hey
you know I was thinking about what you were
talking about earlier
you know, about like having a meeting to live
and that's like later man
Oh yeah, you know, later
And he just
Then he dies, then he dies
He succumbs to his wounds
Yep
He flat lines
Yeah, they were gonna give him the thunderhammer
Because it's like oh yeah you earn this
You should keep this and then his eyes
Kind of just roll in the back of his head and he
He just kind of goes limp
Yep
Yeah because he felt like his blood
His heart blood
And he's like oh that's not
That's bad, yep.
Yep, so then that, that there was the death of Zarl.
It's a hell of a way to go out, though.
It's, it's, all the following stuff is actually like, kind of tear jerking.
Yeah.
It's really sad.
Oh, yeah, because Talos is, like, beside himself.
Well, as much as Talos can be, yeah.
Right, well, Talos that says, like, I don't give a shit about plunder.
I am, do you know, you know that Cyclone?
Torpedo he fired at the moon to blow up their fucking ship.
Yeah. You know that those cyclonic torpedoes are used for exterminatus?
Oh, okay. I mean, I just figured like, oh, cyclonic torpedo, it's gotta be a hell, I didn't realize that specific design was to like exterminate as a planet.
Although I guess- It blows up planets. Yeah, I mean, I guess it shattered like a fifth of the moon or something or like half of it.
But, uh, yeah, he's like, no, I'm getting revenge. I don't care what nightlords would normally
do, I don't care how much
ammunition or armor or whatever
the fuck is on that ship
they will die, they will burn.
He is
very bent on revenge.
A very talos thing.
But after that,
you know, he harvests
Zarl's jean sieb, he torches
the body with the flamers so that there's no
salvage. Yep.
And wonderful little moment of
Septimusel Octavia coming in,
Octavia being like, I'm sorry about
Zarl. He was a good
man.
And Talas just laughs.
He's like, yes, my brother,
the heretic, the
murderer. He was
a good man.
And he fucking laughs until his
eyes cry. Yep. Yep.
Which I'm imagining
that in like a physical form.
And I'm imagining it kind of being one
those things where he laughs until his eyes
kind of like water. And then he walks away
and you kind of get like the camera pan on his
face and his face goes from
laughing to kind of like real crime.
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Definitely.
Because they fucking kind of hate each other.
Zarl and Talos were not really friends.
Yeah, they did kind of. But there was always like that underlying respect between them.
Like yeah, they weren't like the best of friends.
But, you know, whenever push came to shove and like someone's like, oh yeah, well we're
going to fuck you up and he's like, no, you're not. It's like, why not?
Because I have Zarl. Like, you ain't going to do shit to me. I have Zarl on my side.
Like, fuck you.
I got my boy.
Yeah, I got my boy.
I got our, you know, he's basically our champion.
Now that Mollick's not around.
Yeah, that was the only person that Zara would admit he would lose to would be Mollick, but Mollick was gone.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
I actually think they would have, imagine if all the fucking Atramentar were on that ship when they got boarded,
they would have stood no chance.
If the Atrementar were still there, that fight would have gone a whole lot different.
You might not have, Zarl probably wouldn't have died because Malik probably would have dealt with
to let me a lot easier.
Well, he's in full Terminator plate, so yeah.
True.
There's certainly the possibility.
But after that, they go back down to the planet.
And, well, there's a lot of things that happen after that.
Okay, so we get introduced to a human character.
This like gunnery chick, I don't even remember her fucking name.
Oh, yeah.
I don't remember name either.
Remember, I mentioned something that I would massively change
about this particular book,
I would have Maruk not die in Blood Reaver
and instead have him be that lady.
Yeah.
Have it be her character because she plays a big part
with Makarian in the end of the book.
Yeah.
And that would have been, I think, a great spot for Maruk instead.
I think I would have kept him alive
and had him take her spot.
Yeah, that would have been a...
That would have been a better use of Marouk than just having him sort of get splatted on the wall by Chaos Space Marine-ish.
I guess he was Red Corsair, but yeah.
I loved that man.
I really liked Maruque.
But anyway, I think Vario punches Talos in the face and is like,
Hey, wake up.
And Talas is like, I understand now.
Yeah, as soon as Vario punched him, he's like, oh.
That's why I'm here
That's what I need to do
Oh I totally get it now
Yo I gotta go to Seguelza
I'll catch you later
Well first I think they do the
They do the tests on him
And his gene seed
Yeah yeah
Which is I think if I had to choose
The biggest flaw with this book
It would be that
Yeah
I don't
I find the Seguelza flashback
To be a tad pointless
Agree
Now it was cool
And you got to see Sergeant Usas, which was kind of fun.
I think, wait, wasn't there the part versus the Genesis chapter where Usas like fell through the fucking ceiling with like a Genesis guy?
He's like trying to shank him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like trying to choke him.
He's got his hands around his throat.
And he actually kills him.
And they're like, there's all this gunfire.
And Uzass is like, oh my God.
And he's running towards first claw and he has to die behind cover.
And they're like, God damn it, Uzaz.
Mercut. Mercutian was firing his heavy bolter. He had to stop firing. He's like, idiot.
Idiot. He just falls through the ceiling, choking a fucking genesis.
I'm just imagining that. They have these two firing lanes.
Just in the middle of the entire fight. You just see Uzzas fly through the scene.
And like, ah! He starts, like, beating his ass.
It's the most ooze-ass entrance ever, too. Like, it's like, oh, yeah.
I'm surprised he didn't blow through the wall, like, fucking, um, Kool-Aid man.
Or, like, the juggernaut.
Yeah, he's kind of like, can you imagine just fighting and then Uzass blows to the wall?
And he's like, he's like trying to bite the other Marine or something, just some bullshit.
But I guess it was kind of nice seeing him as sergeant Uzass.
Yeah.
In Seguelza, because he's had a couple moments of clarity in this book.
Yeah, he's definitely not as like Uzaz crazy skulls for this skull god or anything like that.
He's a lot more, he's a lot more with it.
I was surprised when he was like, Skulls for the eighth lead.
Because I was like, hey, you don't...
That's a little difference.
That's not your usual chaosy bullshit.
That's kind of, but it's like...
Well, he has that one really sad moment where he's like, he starts panicking.
He's like, brother, why are my hands red?
What, like, I bear the mark of sinners.
Like, what did I do?
Yep.
And I was like, oh, fuck, man.
And it hurts even more when you finish the fucking book.
Yeah, it really does.
That's a side note.
That is a side note, yeah.
But the thing with Vario is that Tallas didn't mesh well with his gene seed, right?
So he couldn't quite use it properly, but Vario has like the ultimate foreshadowing where he's like, you know, if somebody else had your gene seed and they meshed well with it, they could use it to perfection.
They could actually be a profit.
it and they could actually see it and have no ill side effects and they would be a great
night lord's leader wink wink readers wink wink wink that was like the big like reveal is the you know
talus's gene seed didn't really mesh well with him yeah and and that was the whole concept
is that hey talos may not be the person but there might be one or
after, you know? That's the concept. And after that whole thing in the Segwellsat flashback, I think after that they go back down.
Oh, fuck. That's when he gathers the astropaths.
Yeah, that's when he's like, hey, guys, I've got this really great idea.
Right. So, yeah, because he's like, I know why I'm here now. Let me go. I've got to go back to Seguelso, Vario. Catch you later. You're going.
gonna love this and it's like oh what's the dragon ball thing it's like you're gonna love this
what you're seeing now is my normal form oh god yeah there's always an there's always another form in
dragon ball i so i'm i'm just kind of skip him talking to all the astrophats because it's more like
for the reader explaining how the warp works yeah um but so so talos's big plan is that he's go oh my god
he's going to take all the astrophats and psychically attuned people from Sigelza,
skin, dismember, disembowel, among other things, them in a one room, the excruciation chamber.
Yeah.
And leave them all alive.
Yeah, they're all alive after that.
They're not immediately dead.
And he mentions this.
He's like, yeah, we're going to, I'm going to skin you guys and I'm going to disembow you and all this.
but we're so good at what we do,
you're going to be alive for like a week without your skin.
He's trying to,
he's trying to force the fear into their minds.
Yep.
And he's going to leave all these 100 flayed,
dismembered people on tables,
very much like his own screaming gallery.
And then he's going to force Octavia to kill them all with her warp eye.
Which is the worst way to die.
Which is,
which the kind of,
concept is that he is creating
by killing
psychic attuned people
after so much screaming
that he creates a
chorus of agony
that is sent down the astrophatic
pipelines. So I think
what they say is like he
was this the book where deltrian
sort of explains what the screeches?
That may have been Blood Reaver but it's the
it's him fucking up with the with the
Princeps. Yeah, he, he sort of like takes the idea of the screech and he takes it to like a universal level and it's like, ooh, that's fucked up, dude.
Because this, this horror screech is just going through the whole system and it's just, it's darkening planets.
Like, they literally have no idea how far this screech is going to go.
Like someone asked him, he's like, how many planets do you think you're going to like quiet with that?
He's like, I don't know.
A hundred?
more? It's going to screech for a while, dude. It's going down the chain. And every time it hits another astropath, this screech gets bigger and louder. Because they start to convulse and they like pop. Yeah. So it's like it just keeps getting louder and louder. And theoretically, this chain could go on for God knows how long until it reaches like a dead end or something. It's, it's unironic. Like the dark Eldar and those groups have done worse things.
in terms of things that are evil and all that,
but it is arguably one of the most evil things
I have read in a 40K book that isn't the demon Kulaba,
which you still don't know about.
15,000 on Patreon.
Yeah, $50,000 on Patreon.
Patreon.com slash it up is really kills if you're...
But it is...
It is, I think I find it interesting
because it's such a unique...
way to do something so
so
horribly fucked up
yeah like it is a very unique
like he basically made it so that all those imperial
worlds in that area have no help
oh yeah they are free for the taking
sort of he's also caused the warp
he basically made a warp storm
yeah because you can't really
get in the warp
yeah it's it's all fucked up
and uh
when the rest of first clause, like, oh shit, you did what?
You, you, you, what?
That's crazy.
Yeah, because, like, you know the Imperium's going to come when they hear that.
And, like, are we, can we, is this really something you should be doing?
And they're also afraid of, like, the Imperium showing up.
But it's not the Imperium that shows up.
He basically set off, he basically said off, he basically said,
set off a bomb in like the Pentagon and then left his fucking address and home phone number
there.
That is.
I said, yeah, he left a calling car.
That was like, find me here.
Yeah.
So, yeah, the rest of those guys are like, we are not strong enough to deal with what's going to happen.
Yeah, that, that, that point is when Septimus is like, we should leave.
we should go
this is gonna
I need to get Octavia off this ship
this is madness
this is absolute insanity
and yeah
it's time for
it's time for us to leave
because
like Talos is gonna kill us all
and he's pretty right
if I'm being totally honest
he is spot on
he is spot on
it was after
after Octavia was used to kill
all those people when she was like, okay, I think I'm in agreement.
Yeah, I think we can leave.
Also, one of the parts that, so when Talus was like skinning all the people,
Octavia tried to go in to like his little excruciator and talk to him.
And as soon as that door opened, she was knocked on her ass by the horrible, like,
disgusting stench of like dead bodies and all that.
She had to put on a fucking rebreather to go in and talk to him.
It is literally a hundred people's flayed flesh and blood pooling into drains and gutters.
Like, it's, uh, even, even her little slaves, the Valora, even they got knocked on their ass.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, do not talk shit on Voleri.
Voleri, sorry.
There's no beating a hound, but Volari was pretty dope.
It's true.
A couple times Octavia was like, oh, I miss Hound.
I was like, me too, Octavia.
Me too.
I do, too.
Well, Voleri is Nostroman for liar.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
And she's carrying around to Gladius, right?
That Syrian gave her.
It's like the size of her leg.
I mean, it's a hell of a weapon to carry around.
That's a protectin weapon right there.
It is.
But yes, unfortunately, the Imperium does not come for them.
We get the Eld.
And you want to know why I don't like the craft world Eldar.
Oh, why is that?
It's, I'll be honest.
It adds to my disdain for the Eldar.
But I think they do paint them pretty well in this book.
They are, they are witches.
They are unknowable and frightening.
Yeah.
When was the moment that Talos realized that the Imperium wasn't coming and it was the
elder that he had accidentally
summoned. Because like there was
did he have a vision or something? Because there
was a moment where it was like, oh, he was like
oh fuck. It's not the Imperium that's
going to, oh, I
really screwed this up. Oh shit.
We got, oh shit, we got to go.
Yes, that was when the arch
regent went to confront him with a
with a gun.
I like that part because he's like
ah, Septimus. I was
wondering when you would do this. He's like, oh.
But when he was dealing with
arch region, he kept seeing the
Phoenix, so
you know them as Jane Tsar.
Yeah. She is a
Phoenix Lord, I believe is her name,
is the title of her thing.
Love Phoenix Lords.
But, so she was kind of like always
in the corner of the room kind of staring
at him. He's like, oh no.
Oh, no.
Did you know
that Jin... One of the few times Talos panicked.
Yes.
Unironically panicked. Did you know Jane Zarer?
has a model. Oh, really? Yep, this is what she looks like. Oh, that's her. Okay, she's cool.
Yes, this is a more accurate one because she is part of a lay talk, the second link that I showed you,
because she has more black armor, I think. Okay. Is it a lay talk? Oh, that's so dope. Oh my God.
Wait, is a lay talk Eldar? Wait, no, that's not them. I'm sorry. Oothway, Othway. I'm sorry.
Oh, yeah, they're the Ulth Way Eldar. You're right. You're right. Yeah, that's what they were called.
Oh, that's such a cool picture of her.
That second one, oh man, shy, if you're editing this, put that second one.
Don't put in the mini one.
Put that second one.
That's fucking dope.
Yeah.
So, I guess you can use them both or whatever.
So the idea is that the Eldar didn't come from the screeching.
It came from their seeing the future.
They saw the prophet of the Eighth Legion uniting the night lords and leading to the death of Ulth Way.
Also, it, it, remember that.
Remember that specifically what they saw was the prophet of the Eighth Legion,
uniting the night lords and fucking them up.
Specifically the prophet.
Right.
So naturally, they try to escape the El Dor a bunch of times,
but everywhere they go, they're just found at every turn,
because they just know where they're leading.
Yep.
And Octavia's getting drained because she's just doing jump after jump after jump.
And at some point she's like, Talos, I'm going to die if we jump again.
I swear to God, like, you're going to kill me.
And Talos was like, you said that four jumps to go.
Do it again, pussy.
Like he's talking to a child.
Are we there yet, Dad?
Why didn't you go before we left?
I didn't need to go then.
But eventually they have no choice and they have to crash the ship on Segwelsa.
For one final stand.
which leads to a pretty interesting moment where Talos stays on the bridge for as long as he can
and then has to leave and he just starts slashing through the escaping civilians.
It's like, out of my way, I'm going to the escape pods.
Well, because they had planned it that way, right?
Because they're going to Seguelso.
They're going to do their final stand.
And they're like, well, what are you going to do with the crew?
It's like, I'm not going to tell him shit.
I'm just going to crash it and they can burn with the fucking ship.
I don't give a shit.
He's like, wow, that's cold.
Talos.
Even the nightler's like wow that's kind of fucked up dude but all right sure
That's a little uncool
Yeah
It's not cool Brett
That's not very pog there Talas in the East Legion
Yeah it's definitely not very poggers
And Tal's like I don't care it's based
Ha
Fucking stupid
I'm hip
But they do make their way through of course
They get down to the surface
And the whole concept is that
They're going to go in the catacombs
beneath the
uh
uh,
beneath the
fortress of Seguelza
and,
and do their final stand there.
Yep,
because in the dark they have the advantage,
they know the terrain a little bit better,
so they could probably,
they're like,
oh yeah,
maybe we'll survive for like
three days or so.
Sure beats the two minutes
will stand if we try and do like,
you know,
regular combat with them.
Aerial battle or such.
Yeah.
I also,
the whole damn time.
Who was the narrator again?
Andrew Wincott.
Wincott?
He says catacombs.
And I'm like, wow, what a coomer.
He kept saying catacombs, and I was like, man.
The catacombs?
This whole next section,
because, like, oh, they also awoke in Malcarian,
kind of forgot about that one.
Oh, yeah, they did.
They woke him.
Oh, that's when Talos is a little pissed off at Deltrian.
He's like, you're literally doing all your ad mech bullshit, and he's literally there, and he's really mad.
He's awake, and he can feel all that.
And it takes, it takes Uzazas, of all people.
He's like, can't you hear the pattern?
And Talus is like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Ouzesz is like, he's awake.
Can't you hear that?
And he's like, oh, shit.
And yeah, he's been awake this whole time, and Deltrain's been poking and prodding and torturing him, basically.
Yeah, they have a little analogy with, uh, with Tal's.
a dog. And then Zaro would just occasion like to poke it. And then he, then he killed the dog with
a pipe. Yeah, because like he's like, oh yeah. Zara, you shit lord. He's like, oh, yeah, Zara would
poke it and poke and the dog finally bid him. And Zara was like, oh, you fucking dog. And then he
brained him while he was sleeping. He brained the fucking dog while it was sleeping. Yeah, it's like,
God damn it, Zarl, you shit lord. I know, right? And then Ouzes was like, I guess he's not barking
anymore. Ha ha ha ha ha. And it's like, wow, you fucking nightlords. He didn't brain it while it was
sleeping, the dog got sick of his shit and tried to kill him, and then he brained it.
Oh, I thought, I thought, like... He poked it with sticks when it was sleeping, and eventually
it got mad, and then it went to try to kill him. Yeah, and it bit him, and then I thought, like,
it was like, the next morning as the dog was sleeping, so I was like, I'm sick of your shit.
Bop! Oh, that might be true. I don't know. All I know is that Zarl bopped the dog.
Yes, yes, Zarl bobbed the poor fucking dog. Poor dog.
Um, the butt. Uh, yeah, so Malkarian is awake, and
they were they were being he was very much like give me one reason not to murder the shit out of that ad me
piece of crap um but had to convince him not do you but they end up going down and uh they're like all right
varial you're gonna leave with all the gene seed and stuff and figure that out with deltrian and and uh
and he formally relinquishes septimus from duty yep he's like septimus you are no longer my slave
I wish I could have heard that conversation.
Oh, God, yeah.
That would have been a great conversation.
I'm actually a little sad that I didn't get a chance to hear it.
Yep, yep.
And Vario was like, well, how are we going to escape without a navigator?
And he's like, well, you're going to take Octavia.
Duh, idiot.
And I like the moments with Septimus talking to Vario,
and Septimus is like so uncomfortable.
Who wouldn't be uncomfortable?
Like, anyone that's human talking to Vario
of all people, it's like,
please don't.
And Cidimus, like, looks behind him
and he's like, Octavia might be there.
And Vario, it's like, eyes on the front,
slave.
Your human mating rituals do not matter to me.
He's like Hannibal Lecter.
He literally is Hannibal Lecter.
He doesn't blink or anything
that's entirely a schick.
Yeah, he's super smart.
Loves eating people.
He's an absolute savage.
I mean,
fucking night lords, man.
So after all of that, they all kind of do their little last stand on Segwelsa.
There's a lot of combat in this part.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of people dying.
A lot of people dying.
A lot of people dying.
Yeah.
Kind of hard to talk entirely about it just because of the sheer volume of it.
Mm-hmm.
But like there's Lucoraphas where all the bleeding eyes die besides him.
Even, even Verasha.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
Even he dies.
But then Lucorapis eats all their soul stone.
Which is
So. What were the Eldar that he was fighting?
Because they had like wings and did they have Scyth?
I don't remember.
I was going to ask what kind of soldiers those were
because they sounded very elegant and very cool.
But I was like, I don't know who the fuck Lucorfus is fighting right now.
They sound dope as hell though.
There's a particular name.
I think the dark Eldar called them scourges.
Okay.
Um, I, Eldar flying models. What the fuck is their name?
I know that there is a name for them. I cannot think of it at this moment.
Yeah, Lucorvis fucks them. Even after all the bleeding eyes are dead, he fucks them all up and you're right.
He eats their soul stones.
He literally eats their soul stones, which is super dark.
That's real dark. And he, he's convinced that he can hear them screaming in his mind.
Ooh, I think they're called Swooping Hawks.
Oh, cool name.
Swooping Hawks.
Unfortunate fate.
Yeah.
Cool name. Yes, they have some pretty interesting fighting there.
But they are pretty cool.
Swooping Hawks are Nito.
And yes, Lucoraphas decided to eat their soul stones, which is pretty dark.
It's pretty dark.
If you know anything about the Eldar and their soulstones, that's fucking dark.
a lot of the
8th Legion ended up
going underground and
killing a lot of else so the
Eldar quote unquote dregs
are known as Eldar guardians
they're like base troops
and they were murdering them like easy
oh yeah however
the ones that were getting them
are something called howling banshees
oh those fucking banshees
they are something
else
yeah they were they were using the
I mean
the night lords are used to using a screech themselves, but then these damn banshee show up and, uh, they're using a screech against us.
So in, in the tabletop, howling banshee's forced the enemy to fight last, that's the concept of their, like, debilitating screech.
Uh, so it's, it's a very, it's used in that way.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
It's a pretty cool way they do it.
They like it a lot.
They mess up a lot of night lords.
Holy shit.
They kill a lot of people.
Yes, they do.
Oh, my God.
I would not want to fight them.
But the first claw ends up getting themselves something known as Terminator armor.
Yes, they did.
They just found some Terminator armor that was hanging around in the catacombs.
Is that what happened?
Oh, no.
I think that they, I think it was more the concept of,
Um, well, no, I think they brought it down.
I think they had the armor.
Oh.
They had the armor.
Oh, I didn't know that they still had.
Why, why, why, why they wait until now to use it?
Well, because they have to get into the damn thing.
It takes a while.
True.
But why didn't they just get into the Terminator plate before making landfall?
Well, I'm assuming it's because they couldn't.
I don't think, I don't think Terminators can get into drop pods.
Oh, well, I, well, Mara can get into drop pods.
and he's in a dreadnought.
Dreadnought, there's a specific type of thing that holds dreadnots.
Oh, okay.
I was going to say that.
Wow, big drop on it.
Yeah, I'm not 100% on this one, but they brought it down.
Maybe it was a time thing.
I don't know.
I thought I was like, oh, well, it's Seguelso.
They're underneath their fortress.
I was like, maybe there's some, like, ancient Terminator plate down.
That's kind of what I saw in my head, but I guess it makes more sense.
if they brought it with them.
Yeah, I'm not fully sure, but whatever the reason.
They've got Terminator plate.
They got the plate.
It's there.
Yada yada.
Yada yada.
And boy.
They go to town with that stuff.
Yes, they do.
They're all like, wow, this is really, I'm going to, oh, well, where, I wish I had this sooner.
Oh my God, this is great.
Yeah, that's a lot of what they said.
They're just, they're just like, I like this.
In all of the Terminator plate, yeah.
I like this armor.
That's a cannon. Can I try it?
Like, no, Uzaz.
No Syrian.
Mm-hmm.
But they do encounter Jane Zar, the Phoenix Lord, I believe, is their name.
What a badass.
Oh, my God.
So, so Phoenix, so here's a sad part that, I don't know you know,
Phoenix Lords don't die when they're killed.
So when they are killed
They kind of come back to life sort of
I guess that would explain the name Phoenix Lord
Yeah it's a little difficult to truly explain
But it's either a concept where they do die
And someone else takes the mantle of Phoenix Lord
Or they get revived in some way
I don't quite know
But I like
It doesn't necessarily make it any less
strong
the past
or the ending
of this thing
because Jane Tsar
is the main
Othway
Phoenix Lord
that's come for Talos
she's come for the
the prophet of the
Eighth Legion
and has come to
to cause excessive
murder
and oh
does she fly her way
in there
with like a bleeding
speed
and immediately
bodies the shit
out of everyone, like throws a throwing star at Ouzas'
his face and like cleaves off a good portion of his head.
Yeah, his skull is just like revealed.
It's like, here's my skull from the wound he took, yeah.
But at the same time, because of that,
he's also been kind of knocked into clarity.
Yep.
He is, he's like back.
He's...
He's practically normal again.
Yeah, it's like he doesn't even care about like,
like skulls for the skull thrown or blood for the blood got it.
He's not corn oozes anymore.
He's like old clear usus,
which will come up to play later.
Which will.
So this fight at the bottom ends up massively wounding Mercutian.
Who in his little final stand
fires a bunch of bolter rounds at Jane Tsar and Jane Zarr kills him.
And then before, right, when she walks over him, though,
he like shanks her in the shin with his gladius.
Try to run away now.
Yeah, he's just slaying enough straw men, but he's like, yeah, try running now.
Well, that's a hell of a way to go to.
Yeah, so he gets a good injury off, which is nice.
But then after that, comes the part, I think.
Is it at this point that Varyl thinks that there's something wrong?
It's a little bit earlier.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Right, because Vario is talking about, like, how he now knows why the Eldar are doing with the
Eldar are doing. Yeah, because they're listening in on Eldar transmissions, trying to hear anything. And Vario's like, um,
something's, something's not right here. Like, there aren't that many ships making landfall.
We made it through pretty easily. Something's not right. Like, yeah, something's not going well.
And that's when he kind of learns, like, no, the Prophet of the Eighth Legion is there for ruin. You need to survive, Talos.
Yep, yep.
Or your gene seat at least needs to survive.
Yep, yep.
And then they decide that they should probably maybe.
Vario might be one of the things that helps him survive.
So he's like, we got to go back.
Exceptimus is like, what?
And deltron is like, this is stupid.
Yeah, deltrian is like, you're fucking dumb.
Irrational.
You're right.
Yeah, irrational concepts.
Yep.
But I think this roughly is the part.
The part.
Yeah.
We're here.
We're here.
So...
Fuck Syrian.
All my homies hate Syrian.
Well, so this was alluded to a little earlier
in which Syrian is traveling in the lower decks
because he really likes torturing and murdering people
to state his Slanesh desires.
Yep.
And he runs into Lucoraphis just chilling.
And he's like,
Hey, Syrian, what's you doing down here?
And it's like, the bleeding eyes are everywhere.
We see all you're doing.
And Syrian reaches for his bolster and he's like, oh, just try.
And like three other bleeding eyes like crawl across the ceiling and they're like, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
Oh, fucking Syrian.
It was
And yeah
So there's a little of that
So Uzas is like
Hey Syrian
I've been thinking
Yeah
And serious like
Wow that's new
And it's like
Hey Talos wants us to do so like
It's like yes
Let's talk about
Talos
Yep
So
Should you want to
Do you want to give the reveal
The big twist
I guess
Usaz is
for the longest time
Usas was like, it wasn't, I didn't, I didn't
kill the Voy child's dad
but it was like, oh, Uzass, it's,
it was you, you fucking fuck.
It was you.
And in Uzas's clarity,
he says that he was trying to rack
his brain and figure out
like, you know,
because he knows he didn't do it
and he's like, Syrian, you motherfucker,
it was you, wasn't it?
You killed the father.
And how, how
The void born's father.
And how many countless people have you killed?
And it was blamed.
I got blamed for it.
He's like, I was thinking about it.
And sure, I went on my rampages.
And certainly, I killed my fair share of crewmen.
But not as many that have been pinned on me.
And it's you.
You've been stating your slaneshi desires this whole time.
And the only reason I'm in sinners red is because I'm paying for your sins.
And this is bullshit.
he he probably
Usas probably killed plenty of people
but he was blamed for hundreds more
Yep than we actually did
And Syrian pegged it all on him
Because he was the easy target
Because he's in because he's crazy
Yeah because you're always shouting about your blood for your blood
God and your skulls for your skulldron
It's your own fault
He uh he was
And in a sense
it's even
it's worse
because he kept on saying
I didn't kill the boy born's father
and even we didn't believe
him I was like okay
at some point they're just
I was like oh yeah at this point
you know Uzaz
just gonna like yeah you know
it was me I fucking did it
and then this twist and I'm like
oh no
oozes
oh no
see a lot of people
really
hate Syrian
and for this
and I
I don't
I think Syrian
is good comic relief character
and I like his as a character
I don't think I hate him because it's on
brand
like Syrian is a liar
and a sadist
and a bad person
wow how different
than the night lords
up until this point I would have been
with you but once this happened I was like man
fuck Syrian
oh don't get me wrong
it's sad it's sad because
Because of the sheer amount of, like, pain he's caused Uzass, who is still a bad person, but didn't deserve what he got.
No, he did.
No, he does deserve it.
I mean, he's a fucker.
They're all fuckers.
They're all fuckers.
I think what made it such a knife twist is like, that's your brother.
Like, yes, you're a knight lord, yes, you're bad.
But that's your brother.
I don't even think it was that.
I think it was because Uzaz kind of has this allegory of like a dementia patient.
Oh, definitely.
He has moments of clarity every so often.
And when you see the, when he has those moments and you see like the old kind of as honorable as night lords can be, Sergeant Uzass.
Yeah.
It makes that much sadder.
Yep.
And to think that it was amplified by him, that's where it gets rougher.
And so that part is bad enough.
but what happens next might be just the like, oh boy, the cherry on the tragedy cake.
Yes.
So Uzaz, like, I'm going to tell Talos.
You're going to admit what you fucking did to Talos, and then we're going to, whatever.
And he was even like, okay, sorry I was so fucking angry, but, you know, whatever.
And he turns his back on Uzaz, and Uzaz takes a shot at him.
No, no, no.
He turns back on Syrians.
Oh, Syrian.
And Syrian charges him.
I said Uz-S-S.
Right.
Yeah, Syrian, his back has turned to him, and he takes a shot at him.
But Uz-S fights him off.
And Uz-S fucking kicks him in the stomach or something?
No, he kicks him off the battlement they're on, which then Syrian lands like 20 meters down,
and I think breaks his leg.
Yeah, well, his legs are trapped under some rubble, or they're trapped under some debris or something,
and he can't move and he can't get himself free.
and if you've been reading the Knight Lord's trilogy books,
this scene should look real familiar.
This was in the first like two hours of soul hunter.
Yeah, because Uzaz is coming up on him with his chain axe
and Talos just happens to be in the distance and Talos sees it and he's like,
oh, oh fuck, my visions weren't wrong.
I just, I thought this was supposed to be on Crithe.
It wasn't Crithe. It's here.
I think the most painful part of all of that
because naturally Talos goes to intervene
and kills Uzaz
Yep he right through the back with Orum
He's like I know that sword
And it was really sad
Because you could tell that Talos did not want to do that
He was like I fought for you
Over and over again
I kept on saying that you were worth saving and I was wrong.
And Syrian takes the secret to the grave.
He does.
And the whole time, Uzas is trying to tell Talos.
Like, he's trying to tell.
He's like, he's trying to speak to Talos.
And he can't.
Well, yeah, he's not trying to tell him.
He's just trying to speak to him.
Yeah.
And he can't.
He's not getting any, and nothing's coming up.
He can't breathe.
So he can't even.
It's like, oh, God.
This is so sad.
Like, oh, God.
It's sad for Talos, because Talos does know.
It's sad for Uzaz because Uzaz does know.
And fuck Syrian.
Yeah, and even Syrian was like, oh, he came at me with one of his blind rages again.
Yeah.
I think that part is the part that actually is a fair enough fuck Syrian.
He came at me from behind screaming about his blood.
And I was like, oh.
You, son of a bitch.
You piece of shit.
Well, regardless.
Yeah, Uzzas was not the imposter.
No.
But he also absolutely was.
Serian, Syrian plays a good game of Among Us.
Syrian is a fantastic game of Among Us.
He'd be great at Among Us.
No one was Sus of Syrian.
But, uh, I mean, Usas always fucking hated Syrian.
It's true, he did, didn't he? That's right.
No, it's not Uzaz, sorry. Zarl always fucking hated Syrian.
Mm, yeah.
And this actually adds a bit.
to it, I'd say. Oh, it's kind of funny
too, because when
Uwizaz was like, oh, you, you
killed that girl's father,
didn't you, Syrian? And Syrian was like,
you've been talking to Lucoraphas, haven't you?
They said, no, I just
figured it out. I was just looking through my
memories. Nothing else made sense, you slish
piece of shit.
It's
extremely on brand for
the night lords as a faction,
which is why I like the
twist. And it's a, it's a
good sorrowful twist for you to feel
horribly bad for the character.
You genuinely hated most
of the novels.
Up until this point, it's like, yeah,
fuck who's Az. He's a crazy idiot
that does stupid stuff. And then it's like,
oh my God, I love you, Ouzas.
All of the
moments of clarity before are so
much more painful now. Oh, God, yeah.
Yep. But after
that, like almost
right after that, Jane Zah
arrives and proceeds to
body basically everybody
she cuts off Varyl's legs
Oh yeah because Vario showed up
and that's why they had to make their way out of the catacombs
is because Vario was like hey we're here
and Tows is like you're what?
Why are you here?
And she throwing the stars Syrian in the chest
I was so happy about that too by the way
yeah that was that was decently satisfied
And then she bodies like Talos to an extent
And stabs him with his own sword
Oh
He has this a moment where he's like
She's killed me with my own sword
And they have their little division
That they saw in the beginning of the book
Where it's like oh there she is
And then the blackin comes by and kind of scurries her away
Yeah
Which is crazy that like a
fucking Thunderhawk is firing.
I'm just like, oh, zip, zip, zip, zip, zip.
I'm out.
Yes, like four double heavy bolters.
She just drips out.
Okay, cool.
But after that, they have the final moments with like,
oh, Lucoraphas, too.
He gets shanked.
Yeah, Lucoraphas gets shanked with her spear.
I totally forgot.
Varyl sees Lucorapus en masse,
and he looks like a bloated corpse,
like left underwater for too long.
Yeah.
And he asked Lucoraphis.
of his like, what the fuck are you?
Like, he's like, I don't know.
He's like, it's been so long since
I knew, I just am. And he's like, does
the, does the feeding and eating
of flesh keep you alive? He's like, I don't fucking
know, but I love doing it.
Yeah, he's really strange looking.
He's very, put the helmet back on.
Jesus. It's almost like he had a moment of
insecurity about his features
there, which I think gave him even more
intrigue.
Yeah, definitely.
But after that, Talos
goes to Syrians
completely frayed, disgusted
like chest cavity
and Syrian does do an apology
to Uzaz there
he's like Uzas you're a piece of shit
I hate you but I am sorry
yeah which you know
a little too little too late
yeah but
but even so it was nice
to at least have
when he dies is his soul going to Slanesh
Syrian
I don't really know
I hope it does
and I hope Slanesh fucks him over for all of eternity
Well I mean
A lot of their souls aren't going to be doing great
Although would Uzaz go to corn
Usas might like that
The Slenish thing
Well no Uzzas never deemed him as ever praying to God
Oh that's right you're right
He always considered himself
Like using their power and never
praying to them you're right
Right, which isn't fully true.
He was absolutely.
Who's us would love being a corn demon?
He would probably enjoy that.
But he does have his final little, little ending bit,
and he does say his signature Syrian line,
or he's like, so, how are you?
His chest is, how are you?
Because he said that like five times.
Like, he was once alone with Octavia.
is like, so.
And then he was alone with the Atchementar.
I was like, so, how are you?
I think he says that to the Black Legion terminars
when they're left outside.
You know, it's this little signature line,
which is kind of funny.
Yeah.
And then Vario is like,
his legs are fucking gone.
And he was stabbed in the chest.
He's like, I will live.
I have stenched the flow of blood.
And, and, and sounds like,
shut the fuck up, Vario.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Shut up.
And then he keeps on talk.
He's like, shut up, Vario.
I am so sick of you.
Yep.
And then I think after this is when Talos's vision actually happens, right?
Where he's talking Octavia and Septimus?
I think it was a little bit before.
Oh, okay.
Well, I figured it had to be after Vario was injured because that's when like Talos is like,
hey, you guys should probably leave.
but be aware
Vario's going to come for that baby at some point
no matter where you go
he's going to come for it and he's going to get it
so
run away
heads up
so run away as far as you can
because Vario is going to come for your child
he wants that baby
and he does not care
one bit he's not a good person
don't know if you've noticed
so yeah
yes
so
with his little ending
Oh, we didn't talk about Malkarian
underneath the catacombs.
Oh, yeah.
He has a
fun little moment
where he's shepherding that one girl
I don't even really remember her name
because it should have been Maruk, God damn it.
I think it started with an E
did start with an M.
Ah, whatever, she's just a fucking...
Oh, I think it starts an M.
Malona.
Malona.
Malona.
Malona.
Malona.
But he's down there
fighting off all.
all the howling banshees and all like the people are stabbing at his limbs and he's like, stop that.
Boom and smash them.
They were horny on Maine.
Oh, yes, they were horny on Maine.
Malkarian fixed that.
Yep, yep, yep, it's a good man.
But he had this kind of fun little idea or is like, you know, I have killed multiple captains.
I slew a blood angels hero twice.
Like my story ends in glory
Why in the hell
Would I ruin it by saving one slave?
Yep
And then the book says that
He opens up the room with Bolterfire
And I thought he killed her
At first
What a twist that would be?
I thought he was like
Well I don't give a shit and kills her
And and but no
He saves her life
Yeah he actually does shepherd her
Out of the Catacombs
Just this, because he kind of just wanted to tell her about his world.
Yeah.
And he was, it was like, oh, you know, I like, he was like an old man wanting to talk about his life.
Yeah.
And, and she's like, uh, what's a prime arc?
And he's like, uh, just a myth.
Don't worry about it.
Forget I said anything.
Don't worry about it.
You don't, yeah.
It's kind of sad because in a sense, the imperial propaganda has really removed any of that.
Yeah.
So he's like, my history is anathema to these people.
Yeah.
It's kind of sad.
No idea.
Yeah, like, you know, old people want to talk about this stuff.
And nobody would get it.
Nobody would understand.
But Talos goes to fight Jane Tsar with about four grenades primed in his hands.
He took one from, or he took a couple from Vario, took a couple from Varyl, took
one from Syrian, and maybe one from Lucoraphas?
I don't quite remember.
Lecoraphrus is just kind of there being bodied.
Yeah.
But, yeah, he gets stabbed by Jane Tsar, and he's like, presents.
Presence.
Boom.
Gadush.
Baddush.
And she is, well, she actually technically survives that.
Well, she's like missing half of her face, and she's like.
Yeah, she has, like, one arm.
arm is left and she's like crawling through the dirt.
And what's the first thing that she sees?
Oh, look, it's Malcarian fresh from the catacombs.
Malcarian is like, oh, look, a bug.
Squished.
Just fucking steps on her face and turns into a red mist.
He has to do everything for that boy.
He looks right, he's like, I have to finish everything for that boy.
It's kind of humorous, but also very endearing.
Yep.
Yep, because Talos is dead.
Talos is dead.
Yep.
And we have our two epilogues.
We have Septimus and Octavia most likely escaping, which is nice.
Although they are very paranoid of Vario, eventually finding them and taking the chat.
I think Octavia has nightmares about it.
Yes.
And also.
Him, like, feeling her stomach and.
Yeah.
And also, there's also the issue of the Imperials, just not accepting them in general.
Yep, yep.
Well, they came up with some dumb cover story, and they're like, oh, yeah, we're fine.
Yeah, but there's still the worry.
If there's no inquisitor there.
Oh, yeah, an inquisitor would, yeah, fair enough.
But then there was the other epilogue.
The big one, right?
Yes.
Well, we've already been going for an hour and 16 minutes, so we may want to keep it somewhat brief,
but the long and short of it is Vario got the gene seed.
Yep.
We now have the new prophet of the 8th Legion.
Good old decimus.
Decimus, flanked by Varioil Lucorphus.
I'm surprised he survived.
I did not think he wouldn't.
Yeah, and the Atramentar Malik and...
Garadon.
Herodon, yeah.
So the Atremen.
Intramentar did, they did kind of like a Star Wars meme where it's like, how did you live?
It's like, that's a story for a different day.
We've got more, we've got an Atramentar series of books coming out in about two years.
Yeah, it's like, okay, like, fine, I'll give it to you, fine, fine, whatever.
I'm just happy that they're there.
And it was funny because the whole time they were just like, oh yeah, the prophet, the profit.
I was like, wait, did Tateau survive?
What?
What?
What?
Nah, they got their own profit, which, if you do.
didn't know
the
Kraft World Ulthway
assists the
Cadians in the defense of
Cadia
but they were stopped
and ultimately defeated
by the night lords
in the 13th Black Crusade
and remember earlier
they were after the
prophet. They were like, oh, the prophet. Who would bring
the doom of Ulthway?
Congratulations. There's your prophet. You played your
You played yourself.
You got the wrong profit.
Or we have the usual issue with the future.
Oh, yeah.
You tried to stop it, but you made it happen.
Exactly.
Do you think decimus is the child of Octavia and Septimus?
That is entirely left up to interpretation.
I think...
Decimus would be the 10th, although they were 8 and...
They were 7 and 8.
Well, 9 was Maruk.
Oh, that's right.
nine was Muruk, so he would be the
10th slave. The question
is, if you want the
Knight Lord's ending,
the answer is absolutely.
Absolutely, yeah.
I mean, Vario was going to find that kid
and that's probably going to be the perfect
source for the gene seed.
Now, if you want the
like, they could have
named it Decimus
just, like, because
do you think Vario really is sentimental?
That's fair.
Especially of them two?
Yeah, I guess so.
It was also a nice little touch that Desmiss's armor was decorated with all of First Claw, like memorabilia.
Like, it had a Zarl flayed cape a little bit.
It had the chains that I think Syrian wore.
I know.
He had Orum and the bolt gun, and he had like the helmet of Talos.
Well, the flayed cape is.
Usas. He has the cape of skin.
I think Zarl had some
of the, well, they all had chains to an extent.
Yeah.
He was like a walking dedication
to First Claw. Yeah,
and it's funny because you actually
do get a cameo from First Claw and
champion Maluck in the Conrad Curse book.
Oh, okay.
There's a little part where
one of the night lores is looking for
Savitar and he's asking around
and this one Terminator just kind of
quietly points in a direction. He's like, thank you, Malik. And he walks away and I'm like,
I know you. There he is. It's the champion. It's my boy. But yes, the, it ends with this kind of like,
ah, I am decimus. I will help lead the Eighth Legion, yada yada. Yep, the profit. The true
profit. Has this feeling of, I guess you would call hope, but it's also hope for some bad people.
He has some bad people looking to do some bad things that will lead to Cadia falling.
Yes.
So, a little here and there on that.
But Vario is alive.
Lucorvis is alive.
The Atramentar are alive.
They're all there.
And I must admit, it is a welcome, if a little sappy and a little overblown ending to the series.
I liked it.
I liked it. It felt kind of like that closure that I was looking for, that everything didn't just end on like ultra depression, although it's 40K, that would be a perfect way to end it. I liked it. Also, if we could get a Decimus trilogy books, that'd be great.
These books came out like 10 years ago. So, like, Decimus, as far as I'm concerned, is a live and a person, but has no model and no lore written about them because no one gives.
and shit about the night lords.
Oh, that's sad.
Because that'd be a great mini...
Because he should, by all accounts, be leading the night lords.
Like, he's an actual perfect prophet.
If you...
I don't know if they have, like, a chapter master?
No, they don't, because that's, like, a leader of a chapter
and legions are kind of spread.
But, like, yeah, the war band of decimus would be a thing.
Yeah, I don't know how you would stop that,
because he can literally...
He has perfect future sight.
Right, well, so does a lot of people.
Well, I guess, yeah.
But, yes, it would be a great model to come out with,
and I don't think they ever will,
but it would be a wonderful model.
I like the book.
The ending is a little sappy.
It ends with him being like,
my name is decimus.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This has been Voidstocker,
written by Aaron Dempsey, about it.
I'm like, okay.
All right, all right.
And then, you know, Lucurif is just living.
just because and the Atramentor coming back just because it's it's a little sappy
but I'm okay with it it's an acceptable amount of sap I was I was happy to see my boy
Lucorifus back I don't care if it's sappy I was happy to see Lucorifus back and crawling on the walls
again Lucorifus is is a fucking dude he's I thought I wouldn't like him at first and I
kind of didn't but he's got this he's got that part when he's just staring at the
fucking dude in the console and Blood River is
like, you are not from the sunless
world. What's
wrong with you? That's weird.
Gets really close to this face.
What's up? And I'm like, oh my God.
What's up, bitches?
I can imagine Lucorapus
having, like, Lucorah drip.
I can imagine Lucorapus of all the people.
I can imagine Lucorapus of all
the characters being dripped in Supreme.
I don't know why.
But I see him dripped in, like,
supreme night lords,
and he's got, he's got, like,
shades on, but you see the tear trails beneath the shades from the bleeding eyes.
Like a gang tattoo?
Yeah.
He also eats his own. He ate the bleeding eyes when they were dead.
Oh yeah, he literally ate the bleeding eyes, the dead bleeding eyes.
He's like the night lords might have something to say about this, but ah, they're not here.
Hom, num, num, num, num, num, num, num, um, basically.
So that was Voidstocker.
Loved Voidstocker.
Voidstocker was great.
That was my favorite.
I like Blood Reaver more, but Voidstocker would be number two for me.
Blood Reaver's close to me.
It's close, but I like Voidstocker.
I like Septimus a lot.
He's a giga-chat, and I think he just, I liked his amount of effort in that book.
As for the wonders and wonderful world of the night lords,
I did see a recent comment on one of our dice check battleports,
where it's like Bricky, I know you're watching this, you fuck.
You got me, you made me a Knight Lord's friend from the books,
and now I'm $1,000 in the hole.
Oh, he's making an army.
He's making an army.
These books will do that to you, though.
Like, these books will make you a fan of the Night Lords for sure.
Is that so, D.K.
Yeah, I'd say I enjoy the Night Lords.
I mean, I wouldn't say, like, I'm going to go out and buy $1,000 worth of miles of them or nothing,
but I would definitely say night lords run my, you know, I'm a fan of.
I don't think they surpassed a thousand sons for me because that was like my OG, you know, faction.
But yeah, they're cool.
Oh, I only, I only say this because of, because I have a nightlords army now.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah, I do.
You do.
Well, a G.G. well-played, an easy no re from Jane Zar, the craft rule bitch.
who is pretty awesome, I won't lie.
And also to our good boys, Talos.
You know, in a weird sense, Zorro going out earlier in the book almost feels better because he didn't go out by,
he went out like in this very heroic way.
Oh yeah, super heroic way to go, defending his brothers against the seemingly,
yeah, against a seemingly undefeatable foe that nobody else could tangle with only, only the chain,
Well, I guess he's not the champion.
But there, the first clause champion, Zarl,
was the only one that could save them.
It was a good way for him to go.
Yes.
And, of course, it's our boy, Zarl, who, you got to respect him.
Also, it led to some really good little tear-jurkey moments.
Yeah, he couldn't get bitched out by some Eldar.
Like, that would have been sad to see Zar all getting bitched out by Eldar.
No way. No way.
Let him go out like a champ.
Hear that, hear that R-Eldar?
You guys suck.
Yeah, you fucking elves.
The elf they lovers think they have an opinion.
Ha!
Not here.
Not now.
All right.
Next book club next month.
Brutal Cunning.
Bruton.
Brutal Cunning.
Finally, a book on Audible that isn't over 10 hours long.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Primark books are almost like six to seven hours.
Yeah.
The night was all like 12 to 14 hours.
I was like, shit, I need the whole month to do this.
Alright everyone, thank you for watching. My name's been Bricky. You can find me a Bricky D.K.
Yeah, I'm D.K. You can find me a D.K. Diomonties on all the things at all the places where you do all the things.
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