Adeptus Ridiculous - War of the Beast: The Civil Waagh | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

https://www.makeship.com/petitions/shy-plushie SHY PLUSHIE!!!https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://shop.orchideight.com/col...lections/adeptus-ridiculousThis is it: the final, catastrophic conclusion to the War of the Beast.The Imperium is on its last legs, but Lord Commander Koorland has one final, desperate plan: to weaponize captured Ork Psykers. The goal is to create a "Reverse-Waaagh!" effect so powerful it can break the Ork horde by exploding their heads in a massive chain reaction.The second assault on Ullanor is launched, with Koorland and a small strike team teleporting directly into the Beast's throne room. But it's a trap. Koorland comes face-to-face with the Beast, only to learn the horrifying truth: there was never just one Beast. There are six Prime-Orks. Koorland is killed by the true Beast of Beasts, who mockingly takes his title: "I am Slaughter".With hope all but extinguished, Maximus Thane of the Fists Exemplar steps up. He reunites the successor chapters to rebuild the Imperial Fists and plans a final, all-or-nothing assault with the help of Grand Master Vangorich and Fabricator General Kubik. To secure the necessary resources, Vangorich blackmails the remaining High Lords with hidden assassins, forcing them to commit everything to the war effort.This final battle is a gamble on an impossible scale, and a desperate race to detonate the last Ork Psyker bomb in the heart of the Beast's temple.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous Podcast. My name is D.K. Diamante's. His name is Bricky. And once more, we have dragged Kiryoth out of the walls to tell us, obviously, about War of the Beasts. But before he does, if you enjoy today's episode of the podcast, and perhaps you want to support us monetarily, heading over to Patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous, where you can access to the Discord, bloopers if they happen, $15 tier, get you access to all of our posters in just the crispiest, most loveliest digital form. You should check it out. Patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Ricky. That's my name. Yeah. Yeah. It's me. I'm Ricky. That's my name. And I have a very special announcement coming up from Shai.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Which doesn't mean that I have a special announcement, but yeah. Um, shy is making a brand new official shy plushy over at makeship. Um, it's been the longest time because obviously shy's little cherub design is super fucking dope. Uh, our artist Halestay came up with it and obviously makeshift does amazing plushies. In fact, so much so that like even though we have perused the idea of plushies on the official orchidate merch site, we just can never quite do them as. good as makeship does. So whenever like one of our new clients comes in, we're like, hey, if you want a plushy, just, just go with makeship. Like it's, it's just better at this point. And so in order to make that happen, it's a very quick, limited time Kickstarter to go with it.
Starting point is 00:01:58 So it's a two-part mission. Part one is the petition. And for the next 10 days, so you'll have one more episode with us for a short period time, when you about 200 folks to support the petition with a pledge of only $2. And if it does not hit the 200 pledges, do not worry. Your money will be refunded. All is good. But if we got the two Honda, we get the green light. And after that, we get the full campaign, which is when it goes into official production,
Starting point is 00:02:24 we get a full on prototype, a full final reveal and then launch the final three-week campaign. And that's when anyone can order the fancy shy plush. So basically, first things first, show your interest. if you are interested, it's a quick $2 kind of initial pledge. And then if we hit the two hundo, then we can go ahead and get full production on the plushy. The link will be down in the description. Give it a looksy.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Give it a watch. And yeah, so check out makeship and check out the shy plushy. That's so fucking cool. I knew. I knew you didn't know. I forgot that that was what we were announcing today. and I was like, I feel like D.K.'s going to like this. He likes the small cute stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You announced that and you showed the link and my mouth was agape the whole time. That's so cool. I love that. Make it happen. I do love a good, a good little plushy. Yeah, hell yeah. I do love a good little plushy. They are a ton of fun.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And yeah, it's good stuff. Are you saying it's just a little plushy? it's just a little plushy that's so true DK it is just a little plushy no no attempt is ridiculous don't turn me into a marketable plushy too late
Starting point is 00:03:49 it's been done shy you are now the marketable plush uh well if we hit the 200 pledges so check it out in description and all that good stuff and then I will buy a large jar anyway um curious how you do it? The fact you both went there
Starting point is 00:04:06 at the same time. Well, I'm, it's fine. It's how it is. That's the size of spending too much time together. That's what that is. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:16 we've been doing this podcast for too long. Way too long. Way too long. But hey, Kirov, so how about that Vulcan character assassination, eh?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Yeah. Oh, my God. I was going to ask what you remembered from last week. We watched from death. No, I remember. I remember a lot from last week. I remember more from last week than I do from the week before that.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah, there was, there was some, there was some quotes last week that I think may well stay with us for quite some time, whether we like it or not. I can't believe, you know what, someone, there was one comment that I think really does seal it in the way that you would expect it to be, which is the, um, the watch from death one, which is like, well, I know this is stupid, but I don't have any time to change it. And then the editor goes, oh, I know this is stupid, but I got no time to change this. And then here it is. Yeah. It really feels like that. It just feels like such a massive crunch. And it's like, I know some people have been like, oh, well, just because it all came out this quickly doesn't mean they had to make it that quickly.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And it's like, brother, the writing is on the wall. Well, it's in the book too. But like it is, it sounds like it is a very clear case of nobody had enough time. I would suggest that if anything, it shows to have. have less time than the books were released in. I will say the, um, there's a phrase and I need to pull it up because I don't remember where I saw it, but I think it was in regards to, um, talking about the mass effect trilogy and how, um, because I'm, I'm going back and replaying it because for, because I'm
Starting point is 00:05:55 doing this video on it. And I'm trying to talk a little bit more about a lot of the specifics, a lot more about like, hey, uh, like, like, how was the development process? and stuff like that. And I kind of forgot, like I know crunch in the bioware, the bioware magic. It was an obvious like major issue, uh, with a lot of it. But I always forget like how bad it was, like how extremely detrimental it was. Um, but there was a, a thing and I, I don't remember exactly how it's stated. But basically it's something on the lines of like, there are three parts when you make. a like a film and there's like writing, production, and then editing or something like that. I'm sure someone can help me with this. But it's the thing where each one of those times is a time where things can get way better. And each of one of those is where things can get way worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Oh, I remember now it's pre-planning before the shoot, the shoot and then the edit. so there's three chances to save it and then three chances to make it much so much of the words. Yep, yep, yep. That's how that goes. Right, right, right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um, I found out the decision on this one.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It just feels like three catastrophic. Whoop. Well, I, having, of course, gone through, uh, Pottom's work, a lot of it, a lot of it very familiar. which is reassuring to me because I was starting to think I was losing my mind. I hate to say it, I don't necessarily know that you're going to feel that it's got better.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But I do have to ask. I wasn't worried about that. Yeah, I was not worried about that, man. Was it not on the bingo card for War of the Beast's final episode. Nope. Parsum does want to know on a scale of Wu to Wee,
Starting point is 00:07:59 how are you feeling? Hey, listen, you know, it's like, it's like the big man, Esquier says, having, having no, or losing a beast is better than having no beast. Oh. Woo. Woo. Yeah. I'm feeling pretty woo right now. Pretty woo.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah. It's a woo out of 10 for sure. Yeah. Well, Shai's ready to, she's ready to go postal. So, you know. This series is going to be my Joker origin story. I used to die. But that's a solid 10 minute intro.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We got, we got some stuff rolling today because there's another hour and 30 left, if at minimum. Oh, yeah. Oh, easily. So I'll give you the time. I'm going to say if he really moves along. I'm going to try and blast through like you wouldn't believe,
Starting point is 00:08:56 partially to make the pain go away. quicker. So the title for this script is War of the Beast Part 4, the Civil War. Again, that's pretty good. Excellent work. I like that one. That's pretty good. So we're going to start this off
Starting point is 00:09:13 with a bit of backtracking, as some context is needed that will become very important later on, and also Possum didn't want to overload us with too many names and nicknames that are all really similar, which you'll understand in a second. We mentioned in the previous episode, the Venetum Assassin
Starting point is 00:09:29 in Isad Wire working directly with Vangarich, the best character in this series, and his history with Vanarich is longstanding because Isad is a bit of a monster. So Isad is a man of immense strength due to the fact that the bones in his hands have been replaced by plaz steel. Yeah, they did that shit to Wolverine too, and yeah, it made a pretty strong. Yeah, it sure did. Can't go through metal detectors though. No, it's a really, it's a really, it's a really, an issue at airports, particularly weak against that one Magneto Psycher, too. Yeah. This guy can essentially just punch through people, thanks to the Plastil in the hands.
Starting point is 00:10:17 He's also more or less a warrior monk, and he served under Dracan years ago, but under another name, which was Beast Cruel. Because... Ouch. Wait, no way. There's another beast. Yes. There's another person named beast.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. There's another guy called beast. Beast. Beast cruel. Cruel I have to point out is obviously spells how it should be, which is not with the word cruel. Legally distinct cruel. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You can't have it just be the word cruel. That's too on the nose. You've got to throw some spice on it. Why that's not creative enough. It's not creative enough. It's not creative. enough when talking about a guy called Beast Cruel in the
Starting point is 00:11:03 War of the Beast. Yeah. It's the War of the Beast cruel. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. At least Venom assassins are sick. They are. He's got that going for him. Not much else, but he does have that. So after his time as an assassin,
Starting point is 00:11:24 he was able to partially retire, serving mostly as an arbitrator. but as the war broke out, Vangrich approached him and took him back under his wing. Isad did not have much and Vangrich became almost a father figure to him. So whenever Isad gets activated, he becomes the Beast Cruel. Vangrich was training Beast Cruel for something a bit more covert, something that Isad didn't actually really know about himself despite being trained for it. So speaking of covert, we're going to begin these last few books with a covert operation
Starting point is 00:11:57 being conducted at the behest of Mr. Slaughter. The kill teams have been dispatched by him to three locations that have been inundated by orcs, the Ice World of Valhalla, the home world of the fist exemplar, which is idyllica, and the world of Palos. And they were sent out to find a rather hard-to-come-by thing
Starting point is 00:12:16 that is bound to be on these worlds. All the while, he's showing the 12 video footage, and this footage came from Magnerick of the Black Templars. The footage itself shows Magnerick crushing the skull of a rather strange orc. But as the orc skull caves in and his eyes are squashed, energetic emanation sparked from the skull and the eye holes. So I've got something for you here, D.K. Oh, let's go.
Starting point is 00:12:44 The orc cykers are able to absorb that power and release it in concentrated direct form. As we observed on Ulunor, the harder we attack, the stronger the orc psychic field becomes. But as you all have seen, he gestured to the image frozen in gray scale on the picked feed, the flow of power can be reversed, which is why we must capture one for ourselves, said Corland, ideally more than one. Definitely assumed that you're like, yeah, this is the footage of a black Templar and just like hanging out with Iron Warriors. Oh, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:13:23 We get to that. we get to that later on. Wait, wait, hold on, wait, the harder we attack, the stronger the or the orcs like it feels becomes,
Starting point is 00:13:30 uh, was, is, is this just the bad writing or is this, a retcon, or is this, or is this retcon? Cause both seem totally,
Starting point is 00:13:38 like possible. It's, it's, it's sort of both, but I think it's been changed back again since then. So, uh, like,
Starting point is 00:13:46 so they're suggesting they can reverse like the wah energy and make it like, not. work or work for them? Wait, wait, what? The harder we attack, as in the Imperials, the stronger the orc psychic field becomes. Oh, wait, wait, hold on. This is, okay, this is the psychers.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Wait, wait, these are, these are orc psykers. This is not Waugh energy. This is what the psychers doing psychering things. Oh, okay. Yeah. I misunderstood the quote, sorry. But flow of power, you, I'm caring about the wrong things. Let's just move on.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I mean, to be fair, I don't know that it's caring about the wrong things because it is just straight up. We've found orc psyches and the orc psychic field gets stronger when enemies attack it, but they can star trek it and reverse the polarity or whatever. And none of it really makes a huge amount of sense, given what we know about orcs up until this point. but, but they need three of them. No matter what the weird logic is, they've decided they need three of these,
Starting point is 00:14:58 at least according to the tech priest present. Three of these orccykers would suffice, and yes, they are referred to as orccykers throughout, so we are going to keep that up, and Palsam has literally apologized too shy in the script. Ours-h, oh, orcikers, huh? All right. I mean, you've got everything else at this point,
Starting point is 00:15:21 Well, no, I mean, orcs have psychers. That's not surprising. Orks have plenty of psychers. It's just the way they're doing it is weird. Yeah. It's not the sort of commonly accepted terminology. And it's not how that. They're called weird boys.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Weird boys, right? Yeah. Yeah. Or were boys if you're doing the new stuff. But it's fine. It's fine. Shai is crashing, Shai's crashing out. Yeah, Shai has crashed the hell out in chat.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Let's just go ahead and move right along. Let's move it on. I'm so sorry, shy. It's going to get so much worse when it comes to crash out. As made evident by the video and through first-hand experience, the mind of each orc operated as a psychic dynamo. Break the psycher. Break the orcs in the vicinity.
Starting point is 00:16:09 The tech priest verified that members of this orc subspecies, dubbed mysticus, have been found conveniently on those three worlds that were mentioned a minute ago. The 12 mumbled among themselves and stated, that it would take some time to vote on allotting for resources to deploy to those worlds, but Colin cut them off because he didn't call them there to vote for that. He told them that he'd already acted on his own. He'd sent the Death Watch to handle it already.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And what he needed were resources to go back to Olinor, because that went really well last time. Time for round two. Let's go. You know, honestly, I'm kind of okay with the whole the orcs vicar dies and the orcs in the vicinity explode also. it's not it doesn't happen much but the idea of an orccyker
Starting point is 00:16:54 just like doing some weird stuff and then exploding and killing his friends is it's close enough yeah that makes sense to me that's funny to me yeah it's not normal it doesn't normally happen but it's not out of the realm of understanding
Starting point is 00:17:09 yeah I could see it happening I can't um I'm pretty sure orccykers I'm pretty sure orc cychers in the game have like deadly demise too like I know it's I know it's not like the tyrantin type thing where that's just how they are.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But I can imagine a psycher weaving some kind of psychic crap that he's like, oh, yeah, I make my friends better. And then he dies and he's like, oh, Zong and they all blow up. I can see that. Oh, Zog. I think. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they are doing the tiernidate thing, which is dumb.
Starting point is 00:17:39 But like, well, you know. That is what they do. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. The copy pasteness is not even surprising to me anymore, considering that they had 47 days. to rate this.
Starting point is 00:17:53 If that. Funnily enough, the 12 didn't really like the fact that he didn't consult them about the whole scent of the Death Watch out thing, but it was too late to do anything about it, so instead conversation shifted to the lack of resources due to, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:11 the last full-fledged assault against Ulanor, which just went disastrously wrong. And the vast majority of the chamber was less than infused. Save the Inquisitors, who offered some support without question by offering some black ships. However, one of the 12 wasn't there and he is about to come in in a bit of a fury. So if you remember, early on, Ecclesiarch measuring got poisoned by Vangarich
Starting point is 00:18:37 and told to rally a movement of faith and he had three days to do it in order to get the antidote. Now, he did actually do that straight away. So what about the antidote? Well, while the other stuff was going on. He was visited by Wynand in Vangritch's stead and she had some good news and some very bad news. The good news is that she had some of the antidote, emphasis on some. Due to the failure of the proletarian crusade, the antidote was a bit watered down. It was enough to keep him alive for about 25 more days. But the prolonged exposure to the poison really did a number on measuring's mind and body. so he got weak, he got frail, and he got absolutely unhinged. So we saw a bit of that when the Lord Commander was overthrown,
Starting point is 00:19:27 and we saw it in his hatred of the concept of the Death Watch. When the attack moon was cut in half and shattered, the entire surface of the planet was pelted, including Measuring's personal palace. The debris trapped him under Robo for a few days, and when he was found, he was still screaming. Oh, yeah, that's grim. dark, yep, that fits 40K to a T. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That sounds about right, yeah. Yep. Nightmarish, just how we like it. This screaming just continued while he marched into the Chamber of the 12, yelling for Vangrich. Vangrich responded by saying, you look unwell, why, you look fit to drop. What a troll. I love, Vangrich is my favorite character in the entire series so far. He's great.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Oh, easily. he demanded for the cure and demanded that why nan tell everyone was going on. She looked at Vangarich and shared a very obvious kind of, uh-oh, look, but measuring decided to make it worse. He pointed at each of the members of the chamber, calling them heretics, mutants, poisoners, and called Cavalinera of the sisters a witch, which just made her laugh.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I mean, of all the people to accuse, literally the opposite. Who yelled this? The person was poisoned, right? Yeah, measuring. Yeah, measuring. Yeah. Honestly, that's okay. Also, I do love how he yells witch at the sister.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And the sister is like unfazed. Yeah. Because like it's so ridiculous. It's so insane. It's great. Literally the anti witch of all the people. Yeah. It's like it's like it's such an, it's like obviously the, the worst possible insult that it's so, it's so like horseshoe theory to the point where it's like, please.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You think I haven't heard that before? four, come on. I don't know somebody's going to pull a bolt pistol on for calling everybody a heretic and then like, you know, daring, daring to demean a sister. Oh, well, that is the other. Fast track to, you know, getting yourself a little nine caliber aspirin. Nine caliber is a bolt pistol, my friend. I wasn't sure what caliber to go with. And, and my mind was like, just say nine cal, dude.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And my mouth was like, yeah, sure, it's early. There's no filtered yet. And just... Yeah. Well, you're going to be happy. You're going to be really happy. Measuring was screaming about lies, said he was going to tell all of the world of the death of Vulcan and the death of the fists, and that the emperor has abandoned all of us. And here's how the rest of the conversation went.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So, Bricky, if you could do the honors. Oh, yes, of course. The people will hear it all, only by throwing down the heretic and the disbeliever and welcoming the armies of the. beast can they be saved praise the beast he screamed spittle spraying from his lips eyes rolling up into his head all praise the beast the thunderous boom of bolter discharge the thunderous boom of bolter discharged startled the servo seraphs to flight the contents of mesering's head and shoulders sprayed over the suddenly screaming arch confessor holding on to the arm of a now headless torso why Wynand opened her mouth to say something.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Her gaze slid from the dead ecclesiarch on the floor to the pistol in Corlin's hand, and she shut it again. Wise. Well, I learned about as well as I thought it was going to go. You know, I think it's kind of funny because they were just yelling a lot of things and they were just kind of laughing at him. And then he said, praise the beast. And they're like, oh, never mind.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, this one's over. Yeah, this guy's done. I'll stand for all this like poison and witch slander, but praise the beast? Absolutely not. No. Yeah. Although it's their own damn fault. They poisoned him and addled his damn mind after he got trapped under rubble for however many days.
Starting point is 00:23:33 It's their own goddamn fault. Look, you can't be saying that Vangritch did something wrong here. He's, he's, he's the perfect, he's the perfect character. Nothing he does is incorrect at all. He's super reliable in every way. foreshadowing. Yes, and of course it wasn't, you know, Vangrish didn't, Vangrish didn't do it. Mr. Slaughter did it.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Mr. Slaughter was the one who pulled the trigger, which, I mean, again, you'd expect nothing less from a space marine on terror while someone's like, praise the enemy. What do you call him Mr. Slaughter? I just, I just imagined a bottle of Mr. Clean, but entirely different themed. I'm not going to lie. Wait. Cooerland is Slaughter. right? Yes. I, I genuinely forgot that. I only, I just, I didn't want to dead name him, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:29 considering that Vulcan, how consider it of you, Brickie. How consider it. A, Vulcan dead named him, all right. That was, that was screwed up, ma'am. What the hell? I totally forgot that, that was slaughter because I, because I only know him as slaughter. Okay, all right, that's so funny. It would be him who pulls the trigger. Absolutely. I mean, with all the stuff that's happened because of the beast, you know. It's in the name, rather. It's in the name.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Short fuse at this point when it comes to this particular enemy. And I think that's, I think that's understandable. So everyone's reaction to, uh, to measuring, getting his head and shoulders blown off. It was a kind of mix of, oh, thank God. And what have you done? And the sister gave a glass. lands that said, oh, is this how things go on terror now? But fortunately at this point, some word came in from the kill teams. Some of the orc cycas have been gathered, and they were
Starting point is 00:25:28 going to go on to step two, testing his big idea on the world of Incas maximal. Before he left for the planet, he was asked what was to be done about the Ecclesiarch and the empty spot in the 12, especially in light of a crisis of faith in the Imperium. Colin stated coldly that the emperor had never recognized his own divinity, nor encouraged it. In fact, he enforced the opposite. He stated that the ecclesiarchy and faith in the emperor would no longer be sanctioned in the Imperium, and the ecclesiarch would not hold any seat. Wait, okay, so one, oh no, two, I had to roll back real quick.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Wait a minute. Who is the sister again? Because I totally forgot. the sisters of battle have not been created yet. We're like 4,000 years too early. Sisters of silence. This is silence, right, right, right. That's why she laughed and chuckled because,
Starting point is 00:26:24 but they are talking in this episode. She is, she's sort of like, I think she's done her vow again. So the 50 sisters came into terror and retook their vows to, go the hell up. So she's like, you forgot sisters of silence exist, just like, James Wiltshow. I did.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I will because calling a sister of battle a witch is also an understandable insult. But actually now that the silence is called a witch, that makes a lot more sense, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That makes a lot more sense. Because you would call a sister a battle of witch if you want to say like the most evil thing you possibly could to her or like call her a her a heretic, right?
Starting point is 00:27:06 But. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wasn't this Sister of Silence also a little chatty in the last episode for a sister of silence? Yeah, that was what I was mentioning probably.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, yeah. There's a little bit of that, but I'm looking to just kind of skip that part. Fair, fair. A chunk of them, like, did their vow again. So I believe they're back to being quiet now. So that's, that's maybe something. You know, that's after they chanted let the Imperium fall. so I think we should just move on.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So it was time. Time for an episode of Mythbusters on Incus Maximil. The goal was to gather a mass of orcs together on the planet, of which there were many, and instigate a lot of fighting. This fighting would cause a massive amount of wire energy being formed. Once the wire energy reached its climax, one of the orccycas would be thrown out into the middle of it. This specific orccyca would be kept in sensory deprivation,
Starting point is 00:28:06 sedated for almost its entire journey and in the direct presence of a sister of silence the entire time. The idea would be that the orc cycle would be woken up so that it was fully lucid and then rapidly dropped in away from the presence of the sister. This sudden jump for a very sensitive cycle from being blocked out from wire energy to being overwhelmed by it would hopefully cause a reverse wire effect and decimate the orcs in an almost vacuum pressure sense. smooth brain edging, I guess. What the fuck is that theory? What the, what?
Starting point is 00:28:43 I'm all tabbed right now. I'm going to retab in and look at what Shai is saying, because I think it's probably not happy. Okay, it's the image of Hans Solo, say that's not how the force works. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. It's, I tell you what, it's impressive in a kind of, why are you making this the solution sort of way? I was going to say, that's a very convoluted solution. and that I just
Starting point is 00:29:08 I Yeah, that's all I got I just gruntled grunts and How would you describe The War of the Beast as a series? Funnily enough, this test was wildly successful.
Starting point is 00:29:28 The Orch Cyca's eyes went glassy and caused a catastrophic shockwave that killed some of the escort squad. The death of the Psycho caused a chain reaction in the orcs described as a string of wet detonations and splashes of red as thousands
Starting point is 00:29:44 of orc heads exploded. I'm sorry, it's so cartoony. It's so loony tunes. It reminds me of like, you ever see Kingsman? Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:00 The end of Kingsmen. Yeah, a little bit. Fucking spectacular. out. Oh dear. That's actually a pretty all right. That was. Thank you. It's a little better than my Karioth impression.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I was going to say, last week's impression, that has absolutely blown me away. I've also seen Kingsman more than once, so, you know. Good film. Totally justified. You probably wouldn't read these books more than once, though. Though a partial success,
Starting point is 00:30:29 the impact wasn't perfect in Slaughter's eyes, the orcs on Inchus Maximal were not the larger ones they encountered before. And though it was a strong amount of wire energy, more was needed. If the same test was won on a much larger scale, it was bound to be a success. One final test needed to be done, and Colin said that this test had to be done on Eleanor itself. Of course it had.
Starting point is 00:30:53 He presented this to his space marine cohorts, and this was met with concern. I can't imagine why. Yeah, be with. Why be concerned? Simple plan, guys. come on, get it together. Coland did point out that a surprise attack was now possible.
Starting point is 00:31:12 The layout of Gorka Grod was now well not. I'd forgotten it was called Gorka Grod. It's Gorga Grod. I forgot about it's Gorga Grodd. You said that again and I had a little giggle. They thought once the defences were down, teleporting in would be possible. And there was no time like the present and they did have some forces to spare,
Starting point is 00:31:33 which that again confuses me because not that long ago they were like we don't have the resources for this and now they're like luckily we've got some spare resources the yo-yoing between we're on our knees and have nothing left to throw at this problem too but it's okay because all the space marines arrived is absolutely atrocious in this series it really is I gotta be honest I feel like that's most imperial books though There's a lot of Imperial books where it's like, we're doomed. And then it's like, wait a minute, there's a man in Colbott Blue coming his way. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's a, it's a very, like, popular trope in it for a lot of 40K books. All is lost, except for these 5,000 guys who've just shown up. Oh, okay, cool. Out of nowhere, space sharks. Space sharks. So the following forces are mentioned. by name is being involved, but the total forces vary substantially due to how bad the spanking was in the first battle. So we've got the fist exemplar, the Iron Knights, the Exorriators,
Starting point is 00:32:42 the Black Templars, the Dark Angels, the Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Space Wars, Ravengard, Iron Snake, Stormlords, Aurora Chapter and Brazen Clause, just to name a few. And there's also the Sisters of Silence, the Legion of Cybernetica, some knights, some inquisitorial black ships, and of course the Death Watch, because they watch from death. as we know. However, one... They do. They do. Too true. One thing to know is that the guard regiments and naval regiments are very, very
Starting point is 00:33:11 thin. Also, for the record, at home, the very scattered remnants of the crimson fists and the executioners were there. So terror was totally safe, nothing to worry about. The second invasion of Ulinaw opened up with something a bit different, which was the sacrifice
Starting point is 00:33:27 of ships. Ships that were too damaged were just flung directly towards the surface of Gorkagrod, including the Dark Angels cruiser, Herald of Knight, the Imperial Navy frigate Cizicus, and the Inquisitorial escort. I'm sorry. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:33:46 You know, Karioth, Syzacus doesn't mean everything. No. That's Cizicus, yeah. Caesicus? I don't think it's Cazicus. That sounds weird. I guess you could say,
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah, Sizicus. That sounds like us? Maybe. Look, I've already said it. I hate the names in this book. Like, just all of them. Even by the normal standards, there's some absolute stinkers in here. I mean, we saw how it was how bloody Marthaa, whatever her name was, was spelled last time.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And it's just a mess. It's just a catastrophe. Marmalade the, whatever the hell her name was. Yeah, Margar or something. Yeah. But yeah, my shirt. ship was named Sazka, I'm like, yeah, blow that bitch up, send that thing right down. There was also the Inquisitorial escort, the Pursue Banshee. And those ships had skeleton crews,
Starting point is 00:34:44 sacrifices painfully offered but willing. And their role was fulfilled, because through the midst of the shattered ships came other attack ships that were ready and willing to bring the Emperor's wrath to the surface. But through this overwhelming onslaught, the brute shield of GorkaGrod fell and drop ships were immediately unleashed with Maximus Thain leading forces for a frontal assault. I'm tempted to say that Maximus Thane gives at least three other, like, terrible names a pass because of how good a name Maximus Thane is. I feel like that's a proper space marine name that. Yeah, it balances the scale for some of the other clunkers. 100%. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:27 So this big frontal assault was obviously a distraction. The real assault would come in the form of Corland and his small crew. So Corland's direct crew included himself, High Marshall Bowman, Asga Warfist, who I realised, I listened back to the last episode just because I started to feel like it was becoming a fever dream. And a couple of times, I fully just called him Warfist as opposed to Warfist. I don't know how I did it, but I did do it. Wall fist, eh? Yeah, quite a few people were like, there's no way he's called Wall fist.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And I was like, did I call him Wall fist? I thought I said wall fist. But I think the more I said it, the less clear it got. Well, I mean, was this an Imperial Fist's guy? He's, uh, well, now, now he is chapter master of the Death Watch. So, so, I mean, well, wall fist, I mean, the memes right themselves okay
Starting point is 00:36:32 it sounds like I didn't say wall fist I said this might be just an accent thing no offense rather it might be yeah okay right although when you just said it I could very easily hear the differences
Starting point is 00:36:45 but if you were just like kind of in the zone I could see how maybe wall fist would or war fist would yeah yeah okay I'm gonna slow it down every time I get to his name we just really over-pronounced it.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So there was High Marshal Bowman, Asga Warfist, now chapter master of the Death Watch, and a kill team of six Death Watch members. The assassin Isad Wire, otherwise known as Beast Cruel, six sisters led by Brassanus, and accompanied by two Ogren
Starting point is 00:37:17 and the Majos Idon Orchidakes. She is just fully added. I can't do this anymore. Yeah. And Isad is only cruel beast when he gets activated by Vangelo, right? Otherwise, he's just a hapless. He's sad. I'm trying to remember what the name of the sister Brassanus.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Her first name is atrocious as well. Okay, there we go. I've scrolled up a bit. Cavalonera Brassanus. That's a full name. That's fine. I mean, the problem I have for that is that Cavalonera is too close to just Cavalonero,
Starting point is 00:37:55 which is a type of cabbage, which, like, in terms of mental images, just doesn't work for me when it comes to what's supposed to be a badass warrior. Especially since, like, if you call someone,
Starting point is 00:38:05 if you call someone a cabbage in the UK, you are calling them stupid. Like, it is just flat out an insult. I mean, it's pretty much the same here. If I was like, Bricky,
Starting point is 00:38:14 you fucking cabbage, it's, you know, it's pretty understood. Yeah, I mean, I would be a little bit uncertain why you said that, but,
Starting point is 00:38:23 like, you know, like, get the goal you're you're aiming for, which is to call me a moron. Yeah. Calling someone a cabbage. Yeah, yeah. You understand the imagery, sure.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's only one degree of separation from just cabbage prasanas, which is not a good name. I'm just going to throw it out there. I know that's not what the name is, but it's too close to a type of cabbage for my liking. Anyway, so there's also two Ogren and Majos-Eidon, Urchidac, and of course the orcichor that would be promoted to the position of Brainbomb. Also, Possum wants everyone to know that one of the O'Grene is named Olog, and his big line is Kill-Aw for Emperor. So that's nice. What a good lad.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Solid. The teleporting in was met with a massive issue. They didn't end up where they were supposed to. This combined with the shields of Gorkagrod going back up, made something very clear right away, which was that once again, this was a trap. They didn't learn the first time That they're more intelligent than you thought they were And they seem to be a step ahead They didn't pick up on that
Starting point is 00:39:34 So once again They are not having a good time The teleportation was messed up by a scatter shield And Colin's team had to traverse the palace To find their way to the throne room All the while the forces outside Were forced to go on without assistance So Colin's team
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's so bad They would make their way through the maze-like corridors until the throne room was found. The throne room was a large circular dais that looked similar to that of the Great Chamber on Terror. In a circle, there were six enormous thrones facing outward. All of the seats were empty except one. D.K., there you go. Enthroned in its Titanic chair was a gigantic armored orc.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Nearer in size to a gargant than any common green skin. No plate was of the same material or color as the next, but all were threaded together with an intricate web of alien designs. Its head was bare, flesh, dark green, rigid like tree bark, and swirled night's shade blue with tattoos. Gauntlets, the size of Corland's Plastron clasped the throne's arms, callous lips and painted tusks parted in a grin. It had been waiting for them. Corlin felt a chill in his soul With the clanking of armor The beast rose from its throne
Starting point is 00:41:01 Dun dun dun We're finally there again But again The beast is back baby But this time This time like an actual Like we were really there with the beast though Like this time we're fighting the beast
Starting point is 00:41:19 Like really fighting the beast But what the beast wasn't expected thing was we brought our own beast. A cruel beast. Oh, no. The thing is, it wouldn't be out of place. I mean, you're right, we're there. We are at the, we're at the moment, and we're only six pages in, which is a third.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I don't, no, don't say that. Don't preface it with that, buddy. Just keep moving. Just keep swimming, buddy. Just keep swimming. Into the acid pool. They were surrounded. The chamber was.
Starting point is 00:41:53 filled with gargans again, and among the gargans were elite orc warriors filling the chamber. As Corlin described it, these orcs were their warrior forms, their daylight wall, their adeptus custodies. The beast, I... Wait, no, stop, stop. I tried to move on. I tried to move on. I tried to skip over the crash out. Yeah, my mouth open to say something, and I...
Starting point is 00:42:23 And you moved on. I was like, okay, fine. I guess this is, this is part of the script, right? They didn't actually write that,
Starting point is 00:42:29 right? Colin described them as their daylight wall, their adeptus custodies. Also, said these orcs were their warrior forms. I mean, all, that's what an orc is.
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's literally what it is. But, yeah, there you go. So they, they do have their version of adeptus custodies. Oh, like it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:42:54 If you take, it along with everything else that's happened in this series. It doesn't make sense, does it? There's no justifying this. Nope, nope, no, at all. Move on. The beast said something in Orkish to the bound cycle before making eye contact with Corland and saying slaughter.
Starting point is 00:43:12 No. No. Please. Nope. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can't tell if that's a joke or not. Is that a joke? Are you making a joke?
Starting point is 00:43:24 No. No. Say it again. Say that again. Say it again, Batman. The beast said something in Orkish to the bound cycle before making contact with Corland and saying slaughter. The beast said slaughter.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah. Who slaughter? Yeah. And then he slaughtered all over himself. I don't know what you want for me. I didn't write these books. It's not my fault. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:50 You're learning, Curia. You're learning. Very good. And then he's slaughtered. all over everyone. Very good. You're getting it. Brilliant. Colin then step forward and said to the orc, I am slaughter. I am the Lord commander of the Imperium of Man and I have come to kill you. Oh, wow. The or he is not, he's not like his dad. He's not like his dad. Well, actually, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Maybe that is like his dad or he's just like, I'm here and I'm here to kill you. Maybe he is like then. I'm with you shy. They do need to stop with the whole slaughter thing. The orc laughed and held out its fist. Its fist had two bolted together battle cannons that were surrounded by auto cannons, heavy flamers, rocket launchers, and multi-barreled orkish weapons. I like how it just gives up at the end.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So I'm going to exhaustively list all the guns and then go and some other stuff. Like you say, is just decked out with all these cannons? Yeah, it's just all guns. All guns, baby. That is a pretty orky thing to do, honestly. 100%. That's kind of sick.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I don't have a problem with that. I just like how it starts out with the description of what each gun was and then just sort of devolves into and some orc stuff, I guess. And some ork shit, too. Yeah. It unloaded a hit that was described as being like, as being like a star being born. But Corland didn't, didn't. get a hit. It hit Bowman who shoved Cawland out of the way.
Starting point is 00:45:26 What an absolute legend. That is a great way to describe like a really heavy hit though. It was like a star being born. Yeah. Nice. That is pretty sick. Yeah, I'll give them that.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It's a roller coaster at this point, isn't it? Every now and again, it's like, oh, that's pretty cool. But then it's followed by I am slaughter. I'm slaughter. I do appreciate that the beast's arm was like multiple battle cannons mixed with all kinds of other guns on it because that's not only very orky but also provides the sides considering the fact that like an imperial night fires a singular rapid fire battle cannon out of one of its arms and a battle cannon is the main gun that a Lehman Rust tank uses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And so it's like, okay, this really, like you're really selling it to me now. Yeah, he's got multiple on his fist. This dude is big. Yeah. At this point, a battle commences in the throne room. The goal here was not only to rally up in a fighting, but also to survive the fighting. The issue also was that the battle was close quarters, so the sisters couldn't make their way from the cycle. They couldn't escape.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Corland engaged directly with the beast, and it tore him apart. He was fighting a losing battle, but a reprieve was found when the beast's guns ceased to work and jammed. Again, very orky, that's fine. The sisters, yeah, the sisters were finally able to escape and the orccyca detonated. Psychic feedback raced through the orc mobs and the explosion caused irreparable damage to Cawlin's armour. The beast still stood, but barely. Collin's bolt was destroyed, but with the last of his might, he was able to take, up Bowman's high martial sword and jam it into the head of the beast.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Corland succeeded where a primark had failed. Nice, awesome, lovely, great, amazing. To be fair, like he had a little help from the psychic feedback thing of Mabooble that they did to weaken him. It doesn't make sense. Hey, I'm not saying it does, but like, you know, that's why Sergeant Slaughter here is, you know, winning out where up by Marr failed, right?
Starting point is 00:47:51 Lord Regent of the Imperium slaughter to you, sir. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle, thank you. All I can think of now is him having a massive chin. Just a massive, massive chin. You, maggots.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I will never, I will never read his name the same way now. I will always just be thinking of Sergeant Slaughter. You're welcome. I'm surprised it took me this long to make a wrestling reference out of that. I hadn't I don't know why it just, it just hadn't occurred to me. Is he, do you think at some
Starting point is 00:48:29 point he's going to defect and pretend like he's fighting on the side of the orcs? Get a bit of heat. Yeah, totally. He's going to team up with the orc iron chic. Yeah. What an angle that was. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It is the biggest chin that's ever been on a human being. Anyway, Corland was held up by Bowman himself, who somehow didn't die from the birth of a new sun attack. Not sure how that happened, but okay. And for a brief moment, victory was embraced. But, of course it's got to be a butt, the opening of a great door on the other end of the throne room and the clamouring of voices proved to Colin that he was wrong.
Starting point is 00:49:16 He had not won. Colin saw it now. He saw the six thrones and saw that they each had their own markers. There was never one beast and there never had been. I mean, to be fair, I feel like if he saw six thrones that big and saw one giant orc in one of them, part of you might have thought before now, hey, there might be more than one of these, but that's just me. Brickie, you're up. Yippee, there were six prime orcs, each a five. father to one legion within the hole. From his position where the defeated orc had thrown him,
Starting point is 00:49:52 some way around the circumference of the throne room from the slave's entrance by which they had entered, Corlin could see the throne that they had previously been hidden. It was larger than the others. It was covered with skins and furs and adorned with black and white checks. Ooh, goffs. As Corlin beheld it, struck by the familiarity of that particular pattern of black and white, the grinding clank of moving armor reached the crescendo, and a second beast passed through the massive main doors.
Starting point is 00:50:22 A second prime orc. Or was it the first? You know, when you said that the guards were like, oh yeah, they're like the, they're like the orc version of the custodians. I was like, man, this is like a regular orcperium over here. And, yep. I mean, yeah, it is like, I'm trying to work out how best to like formulate what I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:50:50 which is that the idea of the Imperium fighting like a dark mirror of itself, I mean, A already exists because, you know, half of them turned Tracer and went over to chaos, and there are still prime arcs there. And as such, that entire angle literally already existed. But if you were going to do it a second time, doing it with Orcs is a weird choice at best. and part of it, part of the thing that makes it feel, I think, even more like, why have you copy-pasted the Imperium onto this faction? Part of it that makes it feel really lazy is that it makes it feel like it's just all there
Starting point is 00:51:27 for the pun of Primorks as opposed to Primark's. And I know that's, it's probably not that, but it feels like someone said, Primorke sounds like Primark, and then someone went, I've got a great idea. Say that again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's such good shit.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I do, I don't think you're entirely wrong. Um, like, I don't know. Sometimes you watch something or you play like a game and you, and then you find the part where you're like, I see this whole game was made around this section. Mm-hmm. And, and often it's fine. It's not here. Yeah, it's not great. It's questionable.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Let's say questionable. Let's go for that. If you want to be nice, yeah. I mean, if you don't want to be nice, you could call it creatively bankrupt, but that would be harsh, so we're not going to do that. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're the nice one here. The offense of the writers was what I said last time.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That's true. Yeah, that's true. So Corland was now face to face with the orc that Vulcan had presumably killed, but obviously he wasn't dead. Bowman screamed for everyone to defend the Lord Commander, but they were swiftly overtaken. Colin brazenly tried to take a stab at this beast's dick, legitimately, but the orc parried his hit and grabbed the blade,
Starting point is 00:53:05 knocking the rest of Colin's armour off. The beast pinned... I mean, sorry. I almost like, his arm and I was like, that's crazy. Just knocking his arm,
Starting point is 00:53:19 smack the arm off. Yeah, so he knocks all of Colin's armor off and then pins him to the ground with his boot. And, oh, for fuck sake, I forgot about this bit again.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And with a voice that was like death from orbit, great band name. He said to the last son of dawn, I am slaughter. No. There's no way he said that. No, he does not say that.
Starting point is 00:53:44 There's no way. The, the, the, the orc says this to Corle and Slaughter Man. To the character who's Xbox like David Tiberty was slaughter. Yeah. This is nuts. This is nuts. Featuring Slaughter from the Warhammer 40,000 series.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Oh my God. Maybe they made this whole thing. because they were like, guys, we can literally make rock bottom. After this, anything we put out is going to seem like a treasure trove of gold. This is strategic bankruptcy. I don't know, man. We did have the Dorn Poop Vault. Yeah, this isn't a joke.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I want to be clear. This is not a joke. This is not Parson messing with us. No, Parson is, like, if it's a joke, Parson will. say that it's a joke. It's not. It's just what happened. This is, this is fucking astounding. It's wild. This whole episode has felt like it was just like one big, are you sure possum isn't just ribbing us? Are you sure he's not just like trying really hard to
Starting point is 00:55:02 turn? Are we sure this was actually in the book? Slaughter stands up. The beast, the beast, who was often referred to as slaughter is confronted by an imperial fist lord region imperial name slaughter stands up from his giant orc throne the prime orc and says slaughter
Starting point is 00:55:25 just slaughter and then they fight and then he steps on him and says I am slaughter in the in the course of what like 10 pages also also this assassin named beast in this room Technically, technically it's like, technically it's a little bit worse because actually the one that said, the one that said, I am slaughter, was a different prime orc.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Oh, no. So a different. Oh, it's a different one. So a different. That's right. The first prime orc said slaughter to Corland. Then Coland said, I am slaughter. Then he killed the prime orc.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Then another prime or came in, beat the shit out of Corland and said to Corland, I am slaughter. and then killed him. Wait. I missed that part. Quarlin's, wait. Cawler's dead? Oh, yeah, he's dead. He's dead.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Admittedly, we didn't get quite to that sentence because we got caught up on how much slaughter was happening. Wait, so he steps on him and he kills him. He's dead. Yeah, he says, I am slaughter and then just crushes him under his fault. He says, I am slaughter and slaughters him actually. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:56:40 I'm actually more on board with this. now. This is this is looped back around to being pretty entertaining. I'm, I'm okay with it. It hasn't for me, man. I'm sorry. I find it highly amusing that he squished slaughter after saying the line. No, no, I do find that amusing. That's fucking hysterical. I'm not sure if it saved me from the last, the last, like, hour. No way, he said that. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah. Yeah, he does. It's wild. So yeah, Corland, dead. Slaughter, in fact, you could say. And this is because, this is because the prime ork knew exactly what it needed to do, it had to kill hope. And the last remaining Imperial fist was that hope.
Starting point is 00:57:29 For some reason, that for me, it feels like that. At the end of Game of Thrones, when I forget which dragon it is, because who cares by the time that show finished. But when it melts the iron, the throne, but it sees John Snow's stabbed in Ares and then it melts the throne and then picks the body up and flies off. Spoiler alert. Like, for some reason, the best part of that whole thing was seeing a meme that someone made that was just the dragon melting the throne. But then the text being like, I see now that truly the enemy is the beckoning of power, the true foe facing human.
Starting point is 00:58:12 and causing these wars is a hunger for more. And by destroying the symbol of that hunger, I am taking vengeance against what happened. I don't know why I immediately thought of that when it was like, the prime orc needed to kill hope. And the last remaining fist was that hope. He's not just killing a man. He's killing a symbol. Oh, he's just a fucking ork. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:58:38 He's a goddamn orc. He's killing because he thinks it's fun. Well, oh, he's a crumping good time. On the, I, to play devil's advocate for a minute, this whole time, they've been like, oh, yeah, damn, the orcs keep out thinking us. We keep like, so like orcs, the orcs at least here have shown that they are capable of thought. And they're capable of thinking like that to that degree, right? Because they've trapped the yommies. That is true.
Starting point is 00:59:08 They've done, they've done a bit of old. You know, and I know the timing of the books is off, but that I, you know, okay, you know what? I'm giving D.K. a bit of credit. We did have like the orcs, especially back in like the big DACA. When he got big, he started thinking a lot more intelligently. And these orcs are the size of knights. Yeah. They're literally wielding dual night cannons on their fist.
Starting point is 00:59:35 That is said, it's still strange. And it's also. It's also in a position happening at a time where the orcs are demonstrably winning every engagement with the Imperium. Like, yes, they did lose their attack moon over terror. But when they first, like, got attacked at all and all, they absolutely ruined everybody and killed Vulcan and basically nothing changed for them. Then the Imperium came back and they were ready for them and they are murdering the hell out of them. and then this one orc is like, well, we are beating them to death and nothing is going well for them. But at this point, I think we can really kill hope.
Starting point is 01:00:21 There wasn't any. There was none. They were just winning. They were winning all the time. It's like a weird thing of this is a way to properly stamp them out. But they're doing it at a point where they are constantly and consistently stamping them out anyway, if that makes sense. Yeah, but this is the final death knell, right? This, this totally stops any more advanced.
Starting point is 01:00:45 All right, Curie, let's move on. Let's stop trying to rationalize this. What the hell happens next? Oh, yeah. So that's actually, you know what, I'm shy. When Vulcan died, he said, don't forget my sacrifice. Oh, okay, Mr. Immortal, man, you're really sacrificing nothing here. I mean.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Oh, yeah. That's, I didn't know Vulcan, the respawner, the immortal, said that. That's kind of brutal. What was your sacrifice for? I really hurt. I had a 10 minutes on the respond timer, guys. Don't forget. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I really hurt now and I'm not going to come back from the dead. No, well, it sucks to be you. So, Cawlin's body was retrieved. The remaining ground forces managed to escape in orbit and on their way back to the throne world, the remnants of the wall held a service for Cawlin and laid him in state. They did not know what to do,
Starting point is 01:01:34 but their sense of duty could not keep them from doing something about it. The last war... Rilin's body was retrieved. What, did they use a giant space marine-sized spatula? Like, dude was smuged, right?
Starting point is 01:01:49 No, no, no. I can't give you that. They, they, they probably, it's the ad meck and stuff. They got things. They got things. Yeah, they've got an industrial size scraper to get it.
Starting point is 01:02:03 To think, to think of all the possible ways of space maroon is defied. you know, like they would Yeah. Yeah, it's it's fine. I mean, calling got off lighter than the
Starting point is 01:02:14 Ultramarine Chapter Master who got smeared across several meters worth of concrete. That's also true. Oh my God. The Chapter Master. It's literally I am slaughter, squish. What a way to go. So they decided.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Sorry. The last wall, they're not going to repeat the mistakes of the High Lords. That would be an affront to Colin's memory. If something was to be done, it would be to the benefit of mankind itself, because mankind deserved better. Now, to be fair, I 100% agree with that. The High Lords have been absolutely useless and just worthless so far, without being outright threatened by Van Gogherich. So, get rid. Get rid.
Starting point is 01:03:06 That's a good start probably. Yeah, no, I'm cool with that. They are extensively useless. Yeah. The ripples of the loss of Corland and the failure on Ulnor for a second time was felt immediately. Worlds were ablaze.
Starting point is 01:03:23 The Imperium looks as though it was a decimated empire. The Imperium was hollow without hope. The orcs emboldened by the kill of slaughter. Fuck's sake. Tor through the galaxy. I just can't read it anymore. I can't read the word slaughter. I'm sick of it.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'm never going to use that word again. once we finish these episodes. I will actively sub out the use of that word going forward. You will never hear me say it again. They were going just tearing through the galaxy. Subsectors went dark like handles snuffed out in a cavern. Terror was free of the Ork Benis, but they stood helpless watching the rest of the galaxy crumble. This was made worse by Ecclesiarch Measuring because prior to his death, Measuring sent his words of woe to various shrine worlds and urged them all to surrender to the beast. Some worlds had already done that before the message even reached them. The people of these shrine worlds built hastily made statues
Starting point is 01:04:17 to appease the orcs and yeah, the orcs liked them. They liked seeing the statues and then they butchered or shipped off the builders of these statues to other worlds to become human cattle. Yeah, that sounds like the orc thing to do. Yeah. The battered chapters of space marines involved in the second strike on Oll and All were compelled to return to their respective home worlds. The space walls returned to Fenris and were met with a massive armada. The ultramarans returned to Ultramar in the midst of a ground invasion. Things were in a state of horror. The remaining members of the last wall found themselves on Inuit, the world where Rogal Dawn was found.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Corland was to be laid to rest on this world and in his honour, Maximus Thain called for a feast of blades. The Feast of Blades is a ritualised way for all the successor chapters of the fists to reconvene and celebrate their brotherhood. In a standard feast of blades, the respective chaptermasters of the successor chapters get together and have a friendly duel, and the winner is handed the sword of Sebastas, also known as the Dawn's Blade, and they get to hold on to it until the next feast is called. That call was answered by all the remaining successor chapters, including the best boys the soul drinkers, Hell yeah. Nice to see them show up before they go or redigate and shit.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Well, Dorn, you know, they're the spider guy. It's all good. Yeah, they won. So the Feast of Blade went, and the last one standing was Thane, but he felt that his victory should be shared. It should be shared between all the descendants of Dorn, because despite the plate they wore, they were all imperial fists at heart. Thane believed that it was up to all of them to rebuild the fists. giving a little of what was used to build their chapters to rebuild in honour of dawn.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It pained dawn to split of his sons, and this was a chance to honour his memory. So Thane was handed the Dawn's Blade by the Exorriators' Chaptermatta, and said that the best of them should serve as Chaptermaster. And Thane approved in the Feast of Blades that he was the best of them. Thane said that they were to contact terror to gather strength and prepare to go to war again. there you go, D.K. Oh, boy. Also, Dawn's plate sounds familiar.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Have we talked about that ever before? That's because, for some reason, despite the fact that Commander Farsightus had the Dawn Blades, God knows how many years. That's where it was. Yeah. They just decided, yeah, we're going to give the fist the Dawn's blade,
Starting point is 01:06:52 which is not at all confusing when you already have the Dawn Blade right there. For God's sake, anyway. You got the Dawn's Blade. Yeah. Anyway, the quote. And you think that they will listen, Isichar said? No, Fain admitted, but that is because we do not speak their language.
Starting point is 01:07:12 We need political animals, men of leverage and influence who do. If we are to open closed minds and release our full potential, then we are going to need a hammer and a pry bar. Who do you have in mind, Isikar said, the chapter master of the imperial fist considered. We must contact Kubik, the fabricator general, Thane said at last, and
Starting point is 01:07:36 Grandmaster Vangrich. So, yeah, they've reformed the Imperial Fist. That chapter is back and Maximus Thain is the leader. So we had last World Protocol, that got them back together. That didn't get the job done.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Split up. We're back again. But now we have Thane as the lead with the Dawnblade and we're doing it and doing it again? So it's so convoluted. But the last wall was basically, if the fists get wrecked, then the successes come together to defend terror.
Starting point is 01:08:18 They did that. But then there was only one fist left technically, which was slaughter slash call and I've just said the word again. And they also had to paint their armor yellow so that people on terror didn't think the fists had got wiped out, but they weren't actually the fist. Fists, they were still their separate chapters, and then Cullen died, so technically there were no more fists. So then they were like, well, okay, we will just rebuild the fists from the successor chapters, because technically I guess it's not been that long since they were all split off anyway.
Starting point is 01:08:50 So now there is an entirely new Imperial Fist's chapter made from all the other chapters, with Thane being the chaptermaster, because E1 the sword that Farsight doesn't have. Yeah, right. last wall was just specifically to defend terror. I thought that was like a spizzo. Like, well, we have to reunite. Okay, cool. We're on the same page now.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Oh, yeah. Well, as much as we possibly can be, the pages might be scattered in the wind, but at least I see the one you're pointing at. The pages are in a lot of areas, yes. They are out about. The distribution is not dissimilar to if they were chucked off the top of a particularly tall skyscraper, but yeah, they're there. They exist,
Starting point is 01:09:37 sure. So Shai said, I genuinely don't understand what's this obsession with Imperial Fists, the chapter. They are all collectively sucking the ass of the Fists, wow, and saying how the Imperial will fall apart without them, how important they are. But to me, it seems like spitting on all successor chapters, like Black Templars, Crimson Fists, All Fists Exemplar, anyone else is way less important than the real Fists. I mean, yeah, I mean, I kind of agree. Like, it sucks when a chapter's wiped out, but it happens quite a lot. Like, there's, it's hardly the, you know, chapters get killed because they're in an eternal war.
Starting point is 01:10:17 And the fists dying, it would be like, okay, well, we've lost the guys who defend terror. If only we had, I don't know, countless other chapters that we could bring back to defend the home world. it's like in universe it doesn't feel like it makes a huge amount of sense how vital the fists are when there are other chapters that could do the job from the point of view of like the successor chapters wanting their parent chapter to still be a thing i get that but like terror's fascination with it is a bit weird it's a little bit weird that's a good point i really thought of it in that sense well just add it to the pile yeah it It is adding it to the pile.
Starting point is 01:11:05 That's one more stick for the bonfire. In short time, Thane was able to get his wish. He met with Kubik, Vangarich, and Lady Brissanus, the Gabish woman. Gavish woman. Oh, no, I've made myself laugh there. That's bad. So Thane explained that he believed that the previous efforts were like the thrust of a spear into the beast. Their efforts were that of the spearhead, but the follow-through wasn't the,
Starting point is 01:11:33 there to push the blade directly into it. Their efforts, though strong, resulted in a shattered spearhead. For this to work, they needed to rebuild the spear and assure that those pushing the spear followed the strike through. Brasannus signed on that there were two more orccycas found, and they had been restricted from their wire energy for so long that they had become almost feral in pain. Thane believed that they'd been thinking about this wrong. They were too tactical in the last attack. That was definitely the problem. Too tactical. Yeah, wow. He believed that if the planet was to be put into a full-fledged frenzy, that the effect of the reverse wire could have a planetary impact. I still can't get over the reverse wire,
Starting point is 01:12:18 but sure, especially if it was done properly within the amplified tower of the temple gargant. And of course, the main focus would also be on the giant monster that killed both the Primark and Corland, otherwise known as the S word the beast of beasts The prime orcs were clearly following their Ork Emperor, cut the head off of the Beast of Beasts, caused the Prime Orks to Prime... Oh my God, I nearly corrected myself to
Starting point is 01:12:44 Prime Arx from Prime Orks. I hate it. Which one is the one that killed Slaughter the Beast of Beast that they have to kill to send everybody else into a thing? Wait, how many Prime Orks were there again? Were there like a bunch? There were like six thrones
Starting point is 01:13:04 So there's got to be at least six of them They only killed the one right Mm-hmm Yeah there's one there's five more you gotta deal with But there but like I guess there's like an orc equivalent of the emperor and they're like Oh yeah if we get that one It doesn't matter what the other one
Starting point is 01:13:19 We don't have to kill the other ones They'll just go into an ork frenzy and just not even Whatever they'll just essentially Yeah the emperor orc Yeah of course Oh I hate they probably call them that They'd probably call him that, dude. They probably call him the Emperorork.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I actively hate that. So they do say anarchy always falls in the wake of the biggest orc being killed, and that should work here. So Vangrich and Kubik were sold, and Vangrich asked what Thain needed. Thane said, everything we have. Literally everything.
Starting point is 01:13:57 All the available astramilitarium and navy in the core. and with the Fiss Reborn, he would take the phalanx. We got a mention. Yay! We love the phalanx is a really cool ship. So if you want to put that in and you want to make me think about that thing, I'm all on board. Let's fucking go. It is basically just been chilling out close to Venus this whole time with a spirit Halloween sign on it.
Starting point is 01:14:23 That's a reference that I don't understand. Don't worry about it. and they were going to take the phalanx to Ulanor itself. Where was it? Why, shy? Look, they didn't want the orcs to be able to get to the phalanx, so they just moved it to Venus, all right? Just because it's a hugely valuable and extremely powerful vessel
Starting point is 01:14:48 that could potentially turn the tide against a literal fleet, that's no reason to have it defend the home world, okay? just throw it in the pile, guys and it's the list. Also, to be fair, all of the fists were dead. So who was even on it? And what, like, oh no, I just said that out loud.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Why, why was no one on it? Was no one on it? Because no one was on it. Wait, that's a good point. That is an Imperial Fist's vessel. It's literally their home. It's their. Yeah, yeah, their fleet base chapter.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Yeah. So if all of them left it. And all the fists died. Right. So, yeah. So wait. Did they just leave a bunch of, a bunch of goddamn ad meck and like, like, random servitors to keep the lights on? I mean, if it was just like menial slaves and servitors and, like, assistance and stuff, that's kind of insane.
Starting point is 01:15:44 But also if it's, like, staffed with novices and stuff for the chapter, I mean, that also would mean that the Imperial Fists weren't wiped out if they were still novices all over it. Because they, like, they still, they might not have. have the, you know, all the gear and like, but they, they still count. But like, like, why would you take your whole chapter out of the, the continent-sized starship to fight the ground war? I, uh, let's, let's move on. So, throw it in a pile. Listen, throw it in a pile, move on.
Starting point is 01:16:19 This one hurts particularly badly. I love, I love, I'm just, I just, I just, I love, I'm just, I just, I just, I just, rereading that one. I hate these fucking books from shy. I just can't stop reading it over and over. Anyway, look, the phalanx, they've brushed the cobwebs off and they're going to take it to Ulano. Kubic feared that this would leave the core exposed and the Grand Master made it clear that these worlds were already exposed. After careful consideration, Kubic had an idea. After their experience on Ulano the first time, the tech priests have figured out how to fight fire with fire. they managed to manipulate the gravitic weaponry used by the orcs to displace the asteroids and planetoids
Starting point is 01:16:59 and propel them towards other bodies. The Mechanicus could essentially show up and slingshot asteroids onto the planet, cripple the defenses, and allow for an easy entry. Why they didn't do that on the second invasion? I don't know. But again, we don't have time. I mean, didn't you say they just figured it out like now or something? they said after their experience on all and all
Starting point is 01:17:26 the first time not the second time the first time move on we are on time yeah this is throw in the pile and move on are we we're not this is the York attack moon right so we're destroying it
Starting point is 01:17:43 oh this is this is this is all and all they go to Olinor for the time yeah well okay I guess they wouldn't exterminate us of things they do want to take O'Lanar back I mean, yeah, maybe. They'll just throw asteroids at it instead. Yeah, I mean, if they knew that from the first one, why not do it at the second invasion, though?
Starting point is 01:18:06 That would have assisted massively with, oh, whatever. They sacrifice ships, and instead, they could have went. Look, let's, okay, so there was a question. How would the other high lords be convinced to share all of their resources? Vangerich, of course, being a legend, had a plan. And his plan was calling a crowd to the Plaza de Camerasa at the Imperial Palace. This crowd included all the high lords as well. Lurking in the crowds was Esad Wire making sure everything went to plan.
Starting point is 01:18:41 The massive crowds, accustomed to shows in this plaza, were about to witness a brand new show. The plaza opened up for Bricky Think the Bubble Halftime Show in Spurs. SpongeBob. I know exactly what they're talking about. As soon as you said from SpongeBel, I was like, oh yeah, Brickie's receptors are activated. I hope the audience has plenty of ibuprofen. I don't get it. No, you don't need to. Everyone else does and that's what I care about.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yeah, that's important. Cool. Hell yeah, brother. So the plaza opened up and something rose up from the depths. From the side of it, it was a colossal platform of stone. and on it stood the armoured silhouettes of space marines standing still like statues. But these were not the rag-tag group of random successor chapters in the last wall. Wait, I thought the last wall painted. No, again, we don't have time.
Starting point is 01:19:35 We don't have time for this. I'm pretty sure in like episode two or whatever was episode one or two, whereas they were told to paint their armor yellow, so no one knew the imperial fist got wiped out. I simply don't care at this point. all the space marines were clout, what a thing to say partway through a, a law podcast where we're actively talking about law, I don't care. All the space marines were clad in yellow. To the thunderous cheer of the crowd, the entirety of the imperial fist stood proudly before them all,
Starting point is 01:20:09 but to the high lords, it was a show of intimidation, because the chapter that they hid the secret of now stood before them all. Thane boomed and addressed the crowd, stating that though they had the blood of Rogaldorn and served with the Emperor's favour, they were as connected with terror and humanity as those in the streets, that even the Imperial Fis relied upon humans and that nothing was achieved alone. He spoke about how he had talked with the High Lords just earlier today. He had to raise his voice to drown out the protests from the council members. He said it was a long meeting, but it was about unity. and though they had previously failed on Ulinaw, twice,
Starting point is 01:20:47 Ulanor was once home to a great victory at the hands of the emperor. The difference between then and now was that the emperor had the complete uniting of the imperium behind him. But now, after speaking with the High Lords, this unity had returned, and victory was assured. Humanity cheered, the heroes of terror were now working on a fully unified front, one that the High Lords were 100% behind. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I don't like the idea of the High Lords being behind anything. Yeah. I mean, since. You'll have noted that we didn't actually cover the conversation that Thain had with the High Lords. There's a very good reason for that. And that's because there was no conversation at all. He was just out there full on lying and manipulating the situation to get the High Lords to do what he said, which solid move.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Honestly, I'm okay with that. Yeah. That is accurate. How else are you going to get all the high lords to agree? Genuinely, fantastic idea. Yep. Yeah. I mean, the high lords didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:22:02 They were fairly, they were fairly pissed off. They attempted to rush to the Great Chamber to subvert what Thain was saying, but they were being stalked by ESAD and swiftly overtaken by Vangarich. Vangrich cornered both the Lord Commander Militant Verald and Lord High Admiral Lansung and stated that they need to agree with what Fainz said. They both told Vangrich to get out of the way saying that intimidation was not going to work
Starting point is 01:22:28 and that his assassin wasn't going to intimidate them. They told him to call off his dog or else they would have their guards put him down. Vangarich said, I shouldn't worry about my man. I would worry about your own. Great line. Once again, Vangarich caused
Starting point is 01:22:44 in the room. Yep, 100%. ESA took out a few men in a short gun exchange, but when the smoke cleared, some of their respective bodyguards were still standing. And the ones that were still standing
Starting point is 01:22:55 began to ripple and twist, revealing that they were Calidas assassins the whole time. Ah. Is this the beheading? It is not. We're not there yet. We're not there yet.
Starting point is 01:23:10 We're not there yet. There's still more. Okay, all right. Varelton Lansung said they would not be intimidated. Vangarich said that he didn't need to threaten. All he needed to do was kill them. The assassins that stood there began to take the shape of the respective lords, and they were left without options.
Starting point is 01:23:28 They asked Vangrich what they were supposed to do. This is a great quote. Bricky Europe, right? I believe so. That is really down to you, my lords, Vangorich said. It is your fingers on my triggers. I take solace in the fact that your death. won't be my responsibility, though you should know that they would weigh very little on my conscience.
Starting point is 01:23:52 What do you want, Langsung asked? I want you to live up to the emperor's expectations. You will mobilize every available warship and transport, every battle company and battalion, to accompany the imperial fist to Ulanor. If you hold back so much as a stretcher-bearer or fleet tender, I will issue the order for your assassination. My operatives aren't. everyone and everywhere. Each is ready to take your worthless lives and replace you at a moment's notice. So tell me, my lords,
Starting point is 01:24:26 do we have an accord? I fucking love this dude. He is such... His fangrich is so good. He's so good. I, uh, goodness gracious. I am very disappointed that he is in this series of books. He's been...
Starting point is 01:24:42 He's keeping it all together. He's the sunshine on our rainy day. Yep. He is the thin strip of gold encased in the bar of shit. He's gleaming, he's in there, and when he gets, when he gets a moment, he shines. What a hero. So, with a simple we do, the final assault on all and all was to begin.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Now, here's a little brain teaser. We mentioned earlier that Thane would be leading the Space Marine. with the phalanx itself for the ground attack, but what about the massive bulk of the imperial forces? Landing with ships was proven to be too dangerous and teleporting was very dangerous. So, what do you think
Starting point is 01:25:28 they did? Uh, okay, so landing with ships is too dangerous. Teleporting is too dangerous as well. I don't know. Did they just throw themselves with like a drop pot? You're not a million miles off.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Okay. Intergalactic paris. troopers. I mean, the drop pod theory, it is pretty good. All you need to do is scale it up so that it becomes not like drop pods, but instead a controlled landing of a hollow planetoid with all the people stuffed inside. So, oh, oh, so they put themselves in a rock and. Essentially, they did a, well, the orcs do this.
Starting point is 01:26:18 so we shall also do it. They took a planetoid in the Golgashir asteroid field, and the planetoid was called 44 Thusa, and it was going to hit Gorkagrod, along with the other slingshotted meteors to hopefully cause mass devastation, but also to unleash a human tide on the planet like ants, instigating a massive conflict that would hopefully build the wire energy
Starting point is 01:26:45 to a massive fever pitch, so that the reverse were detonated. could cause mass casualties. I'm ignoring. I'm ignoring the reverse wall. I'm just, I'm ignoring it. I'm just,
Starting point is 01:26:58 I'm just done with it. I'm over it. Fair and valid. Just just whatever. Honestly, them, them launching themselves in a gigantic, a small planet and crash landing on that is, uh,
Starting point is 01:27:12 the least weird thing so far. Compared to everything else is. Yeah. I, I, yeah. reverse what is reverse quality writing. Oh dear shy. I'm starting to feel really bad for like if you want to, if you want to mute,
Starting point is 01:27:32 that's fine. We wouldn't hold it against you. This feels like an attack on you as a person at this point. It's bizarre because for a, for a series about orcs kicking the shit out of everyone else, it's surprisingly poorly done for orcs. It really, it's really,
Starting point is 01:27:48 effectively what it feels like they did I couldn't even say effectively that I'm starting to lose the ability to think remembering all of this stuff what they basically did was they went this is a series where orcs are so powerful that they wipe out everyone else and then you go okay how did they become so powerful well they became so powerful by essentially becoming something that isn't orcs
Starting point is 01:28:14 like yeah because they're just like It's like a pseudo-imperium now and yeah. They made the orcs win by turning them into like the green Imperium. They made them far more intelligent. They made them far more tactical. They gave them way more numbers somehow, even though orcs already, you know, there's billions of them. And then they were just like, oh, well, that's how they're winning. See, they just became better than what they should be.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And it's like, well, that doesn't make, that's not good for the. Orks. That just means that you've made them into something different, and that's the only way that they were winning. That's not a positive. That just makes normal orcs look a bit shit, and they have to do that, you know? They should have been able to make a convincing orc invasion without basically changing a bunch of fundamental stuff about how orcs work, you know? Yeah, and then adding prime works at the end. Yeah, and definitely kind of seals that a little bit, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah, yeah. It's kind of lame in a very severe way. So the phalanx would be brought in separately and other drop ships too. Not everyone is on the rock. It wouldn't be bolt upon if there wasn't a bunch of random drop ships. While Fane would lead the massive forces hidden on 44 Thusa. The fleet of rocks began to repel themselves through the Ulanor system with the Navy and the phalanx behind them.
Starting point is 01:29:46 The various asteroids made contact with scattered attacks. moon's in the system causing huge amounts of destruction and even more debris to head toward Ulanor. Thane watched on vid screens as the first asteroids hit the planet, causing waves of corpses to lunge into the air. Burn, Thane hissed through his helmet grill. Fleets annihilated, Imperial Wood, worlds torn apart, populations enslaved. He felt all such atrocities in his chest and yearned for vengeance. Burn, you monsters. Damn, that goes hard though. Like, okay.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Not bad, not bad, not bad, not bad. So he knew there'd be losses, but there was no other pass. It was this or nothing. 44 Thusa made direct contact with Gorkugrod and left seismic destruction in its wake. The imperial forces poured out from the planetary toward the Gargant Palace, and masses of orcs began to rush at all angles. Trillions of them. A larger number than they had ever faced before.
Starting point is 01:30:48 They needed to clear the way to the Gargan Palace, which was being attacked by the phalanx from orbit to lower the defences, and the first of the orccycas were detonated, clearing a massive swath of the front lines and stunning the lines further back. Those lines that were stunned were taken out by Imperial Fists, and the rush continued to the Temple Gargan. Also, if anyone was curious, the gravimetric stuff that held the forces in place with the controlled landing gave way during this rush, and 44 Thusufelaus, part crushing everything in its immediate radius. Yay. Yay. This is such an exhausting series. I'm having a little fatigue.
Starting point is 01:31:36 I'm not going to lie. We're getting close to the end. We're getting that. I'm, I'm racing through. I feel like an old woman in her seat. You're like, get back to Van Gogh. She's the coolest part. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Where's my baby boy? Where's my man? Where's my sussie Baca, assassinor man? Oh, okay. All right. Okay. The war on the ground wasn't the only war happening in space. Orks were engaging in the Navy.
Starting point is 01:32:08 They'd boarded the phalanx. Time was running out. The beast had to die. The forces made their way to the throne room again. And Thane called out for the beast. The sons of dawn of God. come for you. I have come for you. It's time to face your doom. Fight me monster. Fight for ulinaw for terror for the galaxy. Makes it sound like he's just placing a bet. The massive beast
Starting point is 01:32:29 entered the room. The killer of Vulcan, the killer of Corland. I'm sorry, that second one isn't that impressive. If you've already killed a Primark. This, I, it's just not. You got, you got those Corlin first and then, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. The beast of beasts, the beast, The beast tore through the ranks but made a direct path to Thane. Shrugged off hit after hit and the battle continued. Thane drew the sword of Sebastus and slashed out one of the blood-red eyes of the creature, causing it to howl and breaking its concentration, making it stumble. As this happened, Thane made eye contact with Lady Prasanas, who gave him a nod.
Starting point is 01:33:08 She couldn't escape to finish the ritual in the normal sense. There was too much fighting. It was impossible to move. She couldn't get away from the orcs. psycher, so she took her blade out, closed her eyes, and thrust it into her stomach? Wait, into her stomach or the psycher's stomach, right? So she would get blown away with the psycher, right? A sister of silence, because her null field was keeping the orc syca from experiencing the water energy just out of their self. Oh my God. So she kills herself in order to make the
Starting point is 01:33:44 currently tyrannid orc explode head guy not be canceled. anymore. Yes. Okay. Okay. Now, I have to say the whole thing with the reverse wire energy, I mean, it is garbage. It is hot garbage. But that's kind of badass. That's like the self-sacrifice of just there's only one way that we can do this and I can't get far enough away. Okay, that's it. I'll take myself out. That's actually pretty cool. That's a blaze of glory if I've ever seen one. I have to also admit that it's also been like consistently set up as a thing. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:25 To utilize this against the orcs even though it's stupid. Like it's it had this is set up and payoff. So I do have to give this a thumbs up a little bit on this one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I feel bad for calling a cabbage lady now because actually she's pretty cool. But you know. Yeah. I mean it's it's still no. No. No shy. No. No. No. No. That came that came later. This is after, I'm pretty positive the sister's silence being able to consciously suppress their null fields is a lore thing that came after these books.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I'm pretty sure it came after these books. Please, please. Let's just go ahead and say that is, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's, that's how it is. You're, you're right, Bricky. That hadn't been invented yet. They weren't that adept yet. So it's fine. Don't ruin the blaze of glory. Let's just, I was going to say, I'm choosing, I'm choosing to, like, even if it's wrong. I don't care. I'm choosing to believe. Sister of Silence goes out in a blaze of glory. She valiantly takes her own life in sacrifice for king and country, and I'm assuming the orc cyker
Starting point is 01:35:26 And then what happens next, Kerioth? Well, funnily enough, you need to read this. Oh, well. The beast of Olinor felt the effects of the psychic backwash immediately, forgetting about the agony of its eye. The warlord grabbed at its head and fell back into the ruin of a throne. It bellowed, it raged, blood gushed from its nostrils and ears. Then, incredibly, it died.
Starting point is 01:35:55 With a fountain of gore and colossal shards of skull, the beast's head exploded. Its arms fell down at the sides of the throne with a thud, before the hulking body of the monstrous warlord fell still. All right. We did it. It was spectacular. Crazy. I mean, it's, you know, it's, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:36:20 I mean, that was the whole point of the plan, right? It's the thing that makes the orcs head explode. So, yeah, sure. That works. I don't know why that just felt so anticlimactic, though, for the beast of Eleanor. I mean, that was the whole plan. That was the whole thing. It was to do that and make his head blow up.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Yeah. Shy, I hate to, listen, I agree with you. it's stupid as fuck, but this was, this, even though it's stupid, this was set up this way in the book. And so they have at least, I, well, I don't think they've actually,
Starting point is 01:36:58 they had set up precedents for it to work like this. They did. They did. In universe, so. They did. It's still dumb, but they set the precedent. Yeah. They've nailed, they've nailed the landing.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Like, they set it, they set up the trick. They set everything up. I mean, they tell her. It's telegraphed it with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, but they did telegraph it. And then they stuck the landing when it happened. And that's something.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Like that's, you know, the trick might have been shit, but they didn't fall off the BMX when they hit the floor. You know? It still, it still happened. Okay. Yeah. No, I mean, I do agree with Shy. They came with an insane orc threat, but the pyramid of bad position. where they can't win by conventional means
Starting point is 01:37:47 and then wrote themselves into a corner and then found the cop out to insta-kill orcs like dropping the one ring in the mount of doom where all the bad guys instantly die except Tolkien had faith in the Lord. And I said Tolkien had faith in the lore with lots of set up background lore in 12 years to write three books
Starting point is 01:38:04 while these guys had 11 months to write 12 books a bunch of crack and a whole hell load of slaughter written on the walls of their padded cells. Yeah. Which is fair. I mean, I do, like I mentioned, the beginning of this whole thing. You had three chances to make it better and three chances to make it worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Twelve books in a year is not, not how that rolls. Yeah. I will say as well, this, like, with the, with when these books were released and then the, and then the addition of like, Assisters of Silence can suppress null fields, that is actually, maybe, if anything, somewhat an argument against the idea of retcons because what is honestly quite a cool sacrifice
Starting point is 01:38:52 in this book series becomes stupid in retrospect like it just becomes a thing of if you were a fan of sisters of silence and then like in the year of our lord 2026 you go I'm going to read the Beast of Rises series for some reason you would then read that and go
Starting point is 01:39:12 what dumb bitch I mean I guess yeah well see I would I would agree with you but I don't at least on the reccon thing because it's Schrodinger's recon Reckons are bad when they do a recon
Starting point is 01:39:26 and it's bad and the recons are good when they do a recon and it's good Terminist decree is bad Necrons is good Voton is good and this is in this situation not as good
Starting point is 01:39:36 it's Shrodenger's Rackcon like you know it's uh they're only good when it's good and bad when it's bad so it's whatever Whatever. But God, I really, I really, really do hope that that
Starting point is 01:39:48 the Lord tidbit was added after, because if it wasn't, we're in deep shit. I mean, to be fair, if it wasn't, we're not the ones who should be in deep shit. We're the ones who may have got that bit wrong.
Starting point is 01:40:01 But if it wasn't added after, and when these books were written, they could suppress their null fields. That means, that someone really fucked it when it came to writing that plot point, because it does end up being, why does she even do it?
Starting point is 01:40:20 Like, that's not our fault. That's whoever wrote this. Like, that's like, I forget which book this specific bit is from and therefore the author, because frankly, it all blends together. But, like, that isn't us. We didn't write that.
Starting point is 01:40:34 And if someone who wrote it already had established things where it was like, well, they could suppress the null field, why even make it so she has to offer herself off anyway? that would just be dumb on their part, not on our part. Essentially, I'm not taking responsibility for that and tough shit. Basically. Okay. So the beast of Eleanor, head exploded.
Starting point is 01:40:59 The beast of Ornoyne, dead. Yeah. Fully dead and so is everything else in the vicinity. The pilots of the gargans, they're also dead. And essentially, everything was ruined for the orcs in that. moment, the Imperium was saved, a new day was going to dawn on humanity. But above the palace of the Imperium, the thunder was rolling in. And Bricky, you will be so happy to know that the subheading for this bit is the beheading. Thank God. We're finally back to the best part. And honestly,
Starting point is 01:41:33 the thing that should have happened way earlier. We should have just caught all the stuff for the Hawks and only done the Van Garwich bits. Yes. Unironically, yes. So Thane and the Fist would return to terror as heroes, and his heroic status would result in Thane receiving a title. He was not comfortable with, Lord Commander, but his work was not done in his eyes. Though the Beast of Beast was killed, the Orks were still a threat that needed to be exterminated. He also needed to find the rest of his exemplar.
Starting point is 01:42:09 boys, particularly Zerberin. Now, can you remember who Zerberin is and where he might be? No. I'll got to be honest, man. I completely forgot who that guy was. Yeah, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I got nothing. I was like, we've talked about him. Zerberin is one of the fifth exemplar, and he, his ship got knocked out of warp travel or whatever, and he got contacted by an iron warrior saying that a favor owed was a favor given or something, something like that.
Starting point is 01:42:48 He's the one he's been joining off with the Iron Warriors during this whole thing. Is he the Dreadnought? No, no, that was a Black Templar's high martial. That's my Templar dreadnought. Right, right, right. Okay, so yeah. He's the other, so he's the other descendant who was friends
Starting point is 01:43:06 with the Iron Warrior. Yeah. He was the second one of the two who decided to be friends with the traitors and mortal enemies of his parents. We've been doing so many of those and there's been so many crazy things. I literally forgot about the loyalist hanging out with the traitors part. Oh, I didn't forget that. I didn't forget that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:43:30 This series is a fever drink. It's an absolute. It really is. It's insane. Wow. All right. All right. So what was his name?
Starting point is 01:43:38 Zerberin? Yes, so Thain needed to find Zerberin. So he had to leave to take care of this, and he was taking the phalanx with him. In order to assure that things were handled properly on terror in his absence, he called a meeting with one Dracon Vangerich. He named Dracon the Lord Protector of the Imperium, and requested he pay a close eye on the High Lords, particularly cubic, which he absolutely did.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Though the actions of Mars taking and working on Ork Tech had helped save the Imperium, this was not to last. Van Gritch agreed and assured that he would only act with the best interests of the Imperium in mind. He mentioned that Kubik was in the process of bringing all the Ork Tech from Mars to Ulinaw in the hopes to destroy it all at once and he would make sure this would happen.
Starting point is 01:44:26 I mean, you know, the incredibly trustworthy adeptus Mechanicus there, yeah, we're just going to take all of the tech and put it on one planet so we can destroy the planet. don't you don't need to worry about any of that. We'll take care of that. Thane leaves. Vangerich began his new duty. So off on Ulinaur, the Fabricator General had placed all the tech onto the planet and the planet was moved into position to be thrown into a nearby blue
Starting point is 01:44:55 super giant hyperstar. The Imperial Fleet was nearby but told to keep a distance and with a yell of let the Imperial Fleet see us bring Armageddon down on Ulinaw, Kubik ordered its destruction and with a terrible flash the planet ceased to be. Mission successful. Now, wait. What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:45:16 What? What? What? What? I heard you moving on too fast knowing that we're going to stop you. If you're just going to destroy Ollanor, why did you go to all that trouble to do the the stuff? Why didn't you just exterminate us in the first place?
Starting point is 01:45:31 Now. No, actually, no, no, no, no, no. Tell me, Kieriaf. Tell me. here's the thing, here's the thing, because I think this has come up before, maybe, potentially. So I was going to, I was going to move us on super quick because I thought maybe there might be objections to this because like, why even bother when you can just exterminate artists? It's not like that is a new technology.
Starting point is 01:45:58 They've had that for God knows how long. They fucking love them an exterminate artist. So what's the problem? I thought the whole point was to save Eleanor and get it back. and keep it. I'm going to just throw something out here. Can you think of another planet that has a heavy orc presence? Armageddon?
Starting point is 01:46:21 Yep. Right? Do you know where Armageddon came from? I should, but I don't remember. Well, I'm going to tell you, because the Flash wasn't Ullinall being thrown into a star. It was a trick by the adeptus Mechanicus because the fabricator general had perfected the teleportation technology and with the prospect of incredible research that would benefit the Mechanicum,
Starting point is 01:46:50 the planet of Ullinaul was moved someplace else for continued study. Armageddon would come for this planet but not in the hellfire and brimstone manner. No, Armageddon would come for this planet in the form of its name. after thousands of years of research and stripping, the planet would become settled and would then become known as Armageddon. That's right. This was secretly another series about a war on Armageddon after all. I can add, Mac, man. They teleported the planet?
Starting point is 01:47:26 Yep. They'd been working on it the whole time. They successfully teleported part of the attack moon. Admittedly, the rest of it fell on terror. but, you know, these trials take time. They'd also teleported Phobos from one side of its orbit to another. And then their last use of the technology was to teleport Ullanoor away and continue stripping it and mining it for technology and resources.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And Ullano became Armageddon. It's a bit wild. But it's again one of those things where it's like they did sort, like, they did hint at something like this. They did. They did set up a bit of a precedence for it with the teleporty planet thing. They did. But the whole planet?
Starting point is 01:48:20 So what happens now that we have Armageddon, Kyrie of? What's next? I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I don't like it. Because it also, it made a reason where they had to be like, oh, well, we have to be like, oh, well, we have to find a reason to not exterminate as the planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:41 But I don't like it, but I, I quite like, in a way, I quite like it, but I quite like it because it means that that planet has like a weird, what's the word, like a weird inheritance almost where it's like, no wonder the orcs are so attracted to Armageddon. This is a planet where, you know, two huge. Huge orc forces rose up and then were defeated. And then it's like, oh, no wonder orcs love Armageddon. This is like an ancestral home. This is where war always lives.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Always, the biggest, strongest, most powerful warlike orcs, always show up on Ulano, except now Ulinaw is actually Armageddon. I quite like it for that. But it is also one those things where it's like, oh yeah, so they moved it, and then they just never used the attack again. That's not very ad mech. Come on. Surely. It is nice that that's the reason why it's like almost like the pseudo-Orc homeworld.
Starting point is 01:49:44 That's pretty cool. But hey, that's a positive note. Let's keep moving. On a positive note, what happens next, Kieryoth? You've got a rare win here. So Vangrich intercepted information confirming the movement of the planet. And he was not happy. The will of those in power on terror were selfish and dangerous,
Starting point is 01:50:03 even in lieu of the greatest catastrophe humanity had faced since the heresy. It needed to happen. A decision was made, but some aspects of this decision had already occurred. Now, we mentioned Wynand a bit earlier being in the Chamber of the Twelve, but there was no mention of the other heavy-hitting inquisitor Verisus. That is because he was very ill. Very, very ill. And he called for a meeting with Wynand. He said they needed to trust one another.
Starting point is 01:50:33 and that he needed to tell her some truths. He told her that there was a force of space marines on Titan stronger than even the adeptus custodies. Bold claim, but okay. Really now? Yep. This is the Harlequin one, whatever, I guess. A force that was the final gift of the emperor, the Grey Knights.
Starting point is 01:50:58 He added that the forces of the inquisition needed to diffuse. It needed to be split in two. He proposed to Wynand that the Inquisitors that were to seek out Xenos should be called the Ordo Xenos, and those who were to face off against Terriers of the Warp should be the Ordomalius. He proposed the Grey Knights work with the Ordo Malius, and the Death Watch work with the Ordo Xenos. As he said these words, it was as if he was aging rapidly. He had one last thing to say, but began to fade out of consciousness. Wynand knew that he had been poisoned and she needed the cure.
Starting point is 01:51:35 She called the one man that she knew would have that on hand. I guess terminus decreed debate is over. Great knights are better than custodies. It's been said. It's been said in the War of the Beast, therefore it is now facts. It must be true. The hardest of canon. Van Gritch answered and when told Veritus, he stressed that he did.
Starting point is 01:52:01 not want to be Lord Protector, he wanted it to be Veritas, but he needed control. He was going to give Veritas the antidote in small doses if he had taken the roll, but the tables had turned. Now, Vangrich was out in the open, and the usefulness of Veritas was complete. Vangrich said he needed to do what he needed to do, and Wynan snapped back, saying he wasn't the Sigelite, nor was he the emperor. Now, as a note, remember during the second episode, you won't remember this. I will not remember this. I started reading it.
Starting point is 01:52:32 I was like, when I went through the script journey today, I read that line and went, I don't remember it. There's no way anyone else does. So you did say, Bricky, I know what's going to happen. I know what's going to happen in the sense. I know the outcome. I never said at once that I know what's like going to happen. Well, this is in fact what you thought was going to happen.
Starting point is 01:52:58 So I have another quote here. I'm sorry. All right. That's you, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, that's me. A shame aside of Vangrich's projection. I thought you would probably react like that, but I was holding out hope you would not.
Starting point is 01:53:12 We really should work together. Now it seems I've some work to win you over. No matter, you'll see the light. Wynan held up her Vox button to her mouth. It's too late, Wynand. You can't save them, said Vangarich. The order is giving. the High Lords die today.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Oh, what a chat. Let's go, thank you. Legend. Let's fucking go. Oh, man. Hell yeah, brother. Let's go. Again, best character.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Just best character in the series is so good. Can't kill the High Lords of Terra? Let's go. My man. Yeah, no, that's fantastic. That's excellent. This is the one part of the books where we, like uniform, you were like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah, brother. Let's call Vangerich. So in an event known as the beheading, Drac and Vangorich would eliminate every single High Lord of Terror over the course of one day. I was kind of hoping he was going to be a literal like Mary Antoinette, like put him in the guillotine and just,
Starting point is 01:54:24 oh. Yeah. How did he take them out actually? Well, I guess it's the beheading of the High Lords of Terra from the Imperium, right? It's not a literal beheading. Well, we're going to go through a few here. So we'll get back to Veritas, but here is a rundown on how every other death went down. So a Colixus assassin would take out both the master of the adeptus astrataepathica and the master of the Astronomicon.
Starting point is 01:54:50 The Patanoval envoy would be killed by his cousin, Doverian Afar. Oh, my. What? Is that right? Dovrian? Fuck these names. Fuck you. Dovrian Ofar.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Dovrian Ofar. That's what I would have done. That sounds. Yeah, Dovrian Ofor. Sure. That's the thing with these 40K names. You just got to commit to it. Like, it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Just commit. Just say it with your chest and say it with pride and everybody will assume you're right because nobody else knows what the fuck that says either. So this killing was sanctioned by the Patanova due to the organization finding the current envoy being in effect. and with some gentle persuasion from Vangarich. Still distraught over the failure of the proletarian crusade, speaker for the Chartist captain's Janiska Tull
Starting point is 01:55:39 would be encouraged to end her own life by her aid, who was a disguised agent of Vangorich. That's fucking grim. The Lord Commander of the Imperial Guard and the Lord High Admiral would be killed by each other's weapons. The person responsible for killing them both would be the master of the administratum Tobris Eckarth, but it wasn't actually him, it was an assassin posing as him, and that assassin continued to pose as him, and the real Tobris Eckarth was never seen again.
Starting point is 01:56:16 So probably shone yet. The fabricator general would be confronted by Vangritch himself and an Eversore assassin and was given two choices, die by his hand and have all the data he had, wiped by virus or shut himself down, give his intelligence call to Vangerich, and Kubik's desire to preserve his intelligence and knowledge overwhelmed his decision, and he voluntarily shut himself down and wiped his own consciousness out. His intelligence call was placed into I'd-on-Ukidex, who took over and acted as Kubik in his stead. Damn. This is great. This is actually good. I'm loving this. This is the best part of the whole damn thing.
Starting point is 01:56:57 And all it took was to get to book 12. The final one was the highly augmented war machine that was the Grand Provost Marshal of the Arbites. Arbetes, whatever. And this was to be handled by Esad Weir, his former compatriot. He felt no pleasure in doing this and questioned his actions here. But regardless, he took his head and made his way back to Vangrich, believing that this was a separate operation entirely,
Starting point is 01:57:23 not knowing the full extent of what Vangrich had done. So, Wynand would eventually find a way to get some medicine to keep Veritas lucid for a bit longer, long enough for him to reveal a secret to her. He looked old because he was old. What a sentence? What line is that? I mean, it's different when they say Deltrian smiled because Deltrian always smile because it's goofy because he's a skeleton. But he looked old because he was old. look. To be fair, it was like, they set it up where it's like, oh yeah, it's, it's whatever poison he had, right, that was suddenly made him appear to be old. But in reality, I'm assuming he was old the whole time and he was doing some mysticism to make himself look young, right?
Starting point is 01:58:10 Yeah, it's, okay, yeah, I guess. He wasn't, yeah, he wasn't just old. He was very, very old, old enough to remember Horace himself. Wow. Because Veritas, was actually Kirill Cinderman. What? What? What? He's who? Cinderman?
Starting point is 01:58:34 Cinderman? From, from fucking the Bulls and the Oh, that was what? The, Garby's advisor, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:47 The dude who's like, well, you know, we have to save them from them themselves and destroy their culture or whatever. the fuck. Him? He's, he's, what?
Starting point is 01:59:00 Explain yourself right now, Kereyoth. What the hell? I had to mute myself because that made me laugh so I just started choking on nothing. Yeah, no, that's the guy. Yep. You've nailed it. That's the lad. This is not, you're not explaining it.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Explain, don't just say yes, you're right. What do you mean? Yes, we're right. You know what? I'm going to read, which I posted. Surviving the Harris. Cinderman went on to become one of the founders of the Inquisition. He took on a new identity, Lastan, Nima Gwynne Veritas.
Starting point is 01:59:34 For the next 1,500 years, Cinderman was kept alive by arcane technologies and an ornate suit of power armor. You know, okay, you know what? This is, this is, I'm having an aneurism. That being said, this is less than, than shocking, because, doesn't Garvey Alokin go on to help found the Grey Knights? Oh. And if Cinderman is part of the Inquisition. Part of.
Starting point is 02:00:11 That's true. Sorry, when it's on to be one of the founders, I'm sorry. Yes, yes. I was technically correct. You know. It's the best kind of correct. Initial shock aside, when you put it like that, I'm
Starting point is 02:00:24 Have we had any Any mention of Cinderman in the last 15 hundred years though? To be fair, I believe he shows up in some of the later like horror's heresy stuff, but in terms of like 40K fiction, not not really.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Okay, because Okay. Because that, okay, wild. He's at the end in the death, but this was made it after, these books were made before. the end and the death. So, like, that's, you know, that's different, but also, wow. Wow.
Starting point is 02:01:03 That is a man who has staying power, it turns out. Yeah, so he's, he's just been chilling for 1,500 years through just some kind of magic and power armor, which. Magic? Come on. I guess. All day technology. It says, it's the same goddamn thing.
Starting point is 02:01:20 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not the most unheard of things. in 40K to be fair. So it's just Dinderman, what are you doing here, buddy? I mean, to be fair, it is wild. I actually, I feel free to take the piss if you like, but I actually quite like it.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Like, I quite like that as just a thing. I don't hate it. Here's a guy who is. I think it's just the initial shock is kind of like of seeing him, specifically him after reading about him in the horse. heresy stuff and then seeing him now it's just i think it was an initial like not that it was a
Starting point is 02:01:59 bad choice or that it's bad to see him it's just not who i expected you to be it is that and also how is this guy doing here like a little bit of that yeah i also i also imagine if i had because because we've we've read certain piecemeal horse heresy books and not all of them i imagine if we read the entire series that might make it like we all be like okay But we clearly did not. We only read like the first three books for... I don't remember him. Yeah, I don't remember him in Fulgram.
Starting point is 02:02:32 I don't remember him in First Heretic. I don't remember him a betrayer. So, you know. Yeah, yeah. It's one of those things where it's kind of cool because you see him doing the whole like preaching the imperial truth and being so good at preaching it that planets would start to shift away from their own beliefs towards the Imperium. But then you also get to see him experience chaos first.
Starting point is 02:02:54 So he kind of goes from this whole, it's all science. There's no religion, there's no spiritual bullshit. We're all about science and technology and et cetera, et cetera. And then he actually deals with a chaos incursion in a library and has that moment of, oh, everything I know is a lie. Wow, what the fuck is happening? So him then going on to become like a founding member of the Inquisition, and having like an anti-chaos land.
Starting point is 02:03:27 It's very cool, like, character development. It's just the fact that it's like 15,00 years later, he's still there. It's like, holy shit. When the initial shock wears off and you're like, oh, actually, this works. This is kind of cool. I'm on board now, but initially it was very shocking. Good to see you, Cinderman, but where have you been?
Starting point is 02:03:53 I couldn't remember how many of the Horace Heresy books you guys had read. So when I got to this bit, I was like, this is either going to be a, yeah, that makes sense, or it's going to be a, I'm sorry, what? And I'm really happy it was the second one. I'm really glad it was the second one. Also, I did not, well, it was not prepped for that, but no. We should probably move on because Shai, the last message was several minutes ago, and it read simply, I don't care. All right. Moving.
Starting point is 02:04:24 You know what? I had my first feeling of genuine, like, wow. Like, like, of genuine, like, like, real, real intrigue in this series. So, you know, whatever. It only took 12.5 books for Bricky to feel something positive. It only took eight hours of Adric. It's not true. I like Vangrich.
Starting point is 02:04:51 That's right. You're right. Yeah. No, sorry. That's fair. Oh, wow. Deep breaths, curia. Deep breaths, buddy.
Starting point is 02:05:02 We're going to be okay. Okay, so it was actually Kirill Sinan, one of the founders of the Inquisition. His fear of chaos and his knowledge of the Grey Knights was built in his own history almost 2,000 years prior. And he had one final request for Wynand, work with Vangarich. The Imperium must not fall to a civil war. Speaking of civil war, it's time to finally cut back to the Iron Warriors and the Fist's exemplar. God, that feels like so long ago. What a jump.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Like, I know, I know, technically, if you're listening to these in sequence, and apparently, multiple people have listened to the three episodes we've already done, like on repeat for like a week straight. I've seen multiple people say they've done that. This with like a week's gap, maybe a week, two weeks? I don't know. It's all become a blur. This feels like such a harsh jump.
Starting point is 02:06:06 So our boys, Zerberin and Calcasor, that was the Iron Warriors Warsmith, that the dreadnought from the Blacktown Plus decided to be friends with. They'd been working together for quite some time at this point and their actions had not been ignored. Eventually, Zerberin's battle barge, the Dantleine, which was now basically the home of his men, and Calcutor's group of iron warriors. Because sure, why not? They would come into contact with the Black Templars, specifically Bowman. Bowman informed Zerberin that, as the remaining fist's exemplar were merged into the fist, that his crew were the last true imperial fists.
Starting point is 02:06:47 But the iron warriors on the ship were a problem. Bowman said that they needed to kill the iron warriors first, which historically is a legitimate statement. And then they could be welcomed back into the fold. But Zerberin said he couldn't do it. The iron warriors had fought by their side. Without them, they would have died. He requested that they give them passage. Bowman essentially said,
Starting point is 02:07:12 what the fuck are you talking about before charging up the weapons on his ship? Again, somewhat understandable. I think it's better to say. So what the fuck are you talking about is completely and wholly understandable? Yes. These guys are cool. Oh, God. Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:07:37 I love that, uh, I love that Iron Warrior photo with a burning passion. Oh, hell yeah, dude. It is the Iron Warriors art, yeah. So Calcutor said that even if the Iron Warriors were killed, Zerberin would also be killed as well. At this point, at this point, a final decision was made. The decision was a full-fledged attack on the Black Templars by the Iron Warriors and
Starting point is 02:08:07 Zerberin with some of his fist's exemplar. The Iron Warriors, like, descendant chapter. Yeah, yeah, got it. They were overwhelmed and Bowman was killed. after the destruction of the Templars Zerberin Tuckendee saying to Carl Gator iron within
Starting point is 02:08:30 iron without Oh Well Yeah Yeah okay Okay So Thain learned of this treachery And he said that the fist's
Starting point is 02:08:42 Exemplar are to be non-existent No history of them Nothing For the rest of his life He would never mention The Fist's Exemplar again I mean, that's fair.
Starting point is 02:08:54 Like, all things considered, yeah, that's, yeah. You know, I can't argue with it. Yeah. So, at this point, treachery is on the table, as the full effect of the beheading was realized by Esad Wire. Vangerich chaired the senator unofficially as the law protector and flamboyantly showcased all the new great high lords to all the ones that remained.
Starting point is 02:09:18 According to him, some were replacements handpicked by the previous high lord, some only acted in their stead while they did other things. Either way, it was perfectly normal and reasonable. He also had some changes. The custodies would have a seat at the table now, and the captain general became a high lord. Not a bad call, to be fair. The Ecclesiarchy also got their seat back.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Arguably, less of a good call, but whatever. He also removed the seats of the astrataepathica and the Astronomica as he didn't trust Sychus. I mean, yeah, Imperium. That's the tracks. I just love how it goes from, okay, sensible to a bit weird, sure. Yeah, sure, whatever. But he says, based.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Yeah, a little beast. Yep. After this meeting, Wyer hid in Vangrich's office. Wire expressed anger. He stated that Vangrich was playing regicide and that he killed all the kings except for one himself. Vangerich never told Wyer his true intentions, and he felt betrayed because of this.
Starting point is 02:10:31 He said that maybe if he had told him he was setting himself up as leader, that maybe he'd understand it, but the man he considered a father figure was bound to become one of the tyrants that he'd always hated. Van Geroich said he knew nothing of politics, and that despite the fact that he called himself Isad Wyer, he was nothing more than at all. He would always be the beast cruel.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Because we have to get the beast in there again towards the end. He will always be the beast cruel. And so it was said the war of the beast was never over for this beast was always alive. For this beast was committing slaughter across the sector to create a brand new Armageddon for the Imperium. Oh, God. We've got like a page stop. and stop. We've got to keep it. Go, Curriot, go. Go, Curiaz, go. Hurry, hurry, hurry. And the beast said, no, I am the slaughter. So, Isad attempted to make a strike on the master of assassins, but funnily enough, Vangrich is better than him. He disabled him immediately.
Starting point is 02:11:43 His last words to him were that he preferred him as a free thinker, but another temple could use his services. he said whyer fell asleep as a vananum assassin and would later wake as a fully converted Eversore assassin. He would be the beast cruel forever more. Traged. Okay, making him an Eversore fan, as a dick move, I'm not going to lie though.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Van Gritch would rule for nearly a hundred years, but as time went on, he would become more and more detached from reality. Shocking, I'm sure you'd agree. coming. Who would have known? Despite his tendencies, he was effective. I mean, to be fair, he was the master of assassins.
Starting point is 02:12:29 Of course, he was effective. But all good things come to an end. He would become corrupted in the same way as others had, and it was now a problem. He would start to commit, I'm sorry, I've read this several times, and it just makes me laugh every time. I don't care who reads this. Someone read this out loud because I can't do it. He would see would start to commit random atrocities and his instability made him unpredictable.
Starting point is 02:12:59 He's an ephrosaurus assassin. That's like his job. What do you mean? Oh. That's his damn job. His job is to be psychoactively drugged and turn crazy. And then this is put on a, this is. And then this is vandridge.
Starting point is 02:13:20 It's not even. Oh, it's not even. Oh. Yeah, this is vanquridge. Oh. Yeah, this is not East. That's even funnier.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Yeah. Why do you think I have serious trouble with it? He would, he would just go around killing people. Wait, why did he start going crazy? Because he's a politician now. That's just what they do. He ruled for like a hundred years. He just started going off his face.
Starting point is 02:13:47 That's, that's essentially all it is. He's just out of his gourd, brother. He really, no, honestly, if I had to play politics for a hundred years when my job is running a council of assassins, I probably get pissed, too. Right. Yeah. Oh, God. I just, the grandmaster of the officio assassinoram, the most secretive person in the entire, in the entire, like, galaxy is like, I ruled, I ruled the impurem for a hundred years of politics. I can't take this anymore.
Starting point is 02:14:14 And he just starts shanking people in the streets. Pretty much. That does. That's what he does. Yeah. Oh, man. I genuinely, like, read that line out several times out loud before we started, because it made me laugh every time.
Starting point is 02:14:29 And I was like, I'll be able to manage this. And then as soon as I got to it, I was like, no. It's just looking at it is set me off. I can't cope with it. So eventually, this would come to the attention of Maximus Thain, who is still out there killing things. And he would need to come back and act as Lord Commander. The phalanx returns to terror and he sends down 400 space marines to the Imperial Palace.
Starting point is 02:14:53 200 of them were Imperial Fists and the rest of them were a mix of two new successor chapters from the four founding, the Halo Brethren and the Sable Swords. And if you didn't hear the theme music from Halo from Halo brethren, there's something wrong with you. So the space marines were met with a massive assault by hundreds of assassins which killed half, of the space marines that laughed it That's 200 space marines Jesus
Starting point is 02:15:24 The assassins don't screw around man Amen holy Also do they use the failings Let's go Yeah it happened I should also add that One of the people killed
Starting point is 02:15:36 Was the Chapter Master of the Sable sorts So chapter masters Still getting shit on in this book series Doesn't matter how powerful You are, you can get smeared or you can get, I'm guessing, impaled. What is that shy?
Starting point is 02:15:51 Is that from Lexa Carnem or something? Just the Halo Brethren are a space marine chants. Oh, no. That's their wiki page. Oh, no. Well, anyway, so what happens next? 200 Space Marine died, and then what happened? Yep.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Eventually, the palace was secured. Fane enters. He encountered an elderly wine. she called him a traitor for giving Vangrich such power. Thane said he was not a traitor. He thought Vangrich would do well, but hindsight is 2020. My bad, who'd know? So Wynand told Thane that Vangrich hadn't been in the past for some time.
Starting point is 02:16:32 He was in the Eversaw Temple located on the North Pole. Thane took his remaining forces to the temple and were met with the full force of the Eversaw Temple. All the while, Van Gritch was brought. claiming that he was not ready to abandon his post. The conflict between the space marines and the assassins resulted in a high body count, and eventually only three individuals remained.
Starting point is 02:16:56 I mean, Jesus Christ, the body count is insane for this. Fane Van der Gereach and an Eversour assassin was all that was left. But the Eversour assassin, we know who that is, don't we? Don't we? That's the side, isn't it? Is it M. Shen? It's the beast cruel Yeah it's the beast cruel
Starting point is 02:17:17 It's Issaid Ever sore sorry I my brain It's been two hours My brain farted Ever sore Yeah it's the beast cruel It's been two
Starting point is 02:17:27 Two hours 20 minutes And does he finally turn on On Vangrich And kill him proper I look You can't just be out here Skipping To that extent
Starting point is 02:17:39 Uh Let's call Baby Episode over You're welcome everyone A real one. So Van Gritch told Fane that his life was forfeit and confidently gave the beast Cruel the order to kill him.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Cruel did not do that. He pulled his skull mask aside, trembling, and said that his name was Isad Wyer. He stepped to the side and gave Thane a clear shot to Vangrich. D.K., that's probably you, right? Yeah. Vangrich's eyes wide. and he held up his hands.
Starting point is 02:18:15 Wait! Did you ever hear the story of the end of Conrad Kerr's? No more stories, Dragon, said Thane, and ended Van Gritch's life with a single bolter shell. You know, I give him some props. Even to his last breath, he was trying to distract someone. There's a reference there that I am disgusted that no one has got. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:18:44 It kind of reminds me of the ending of Breaking Bad if I'm being honest, but... I can't believe. I can't believe that of the two of you, you didn't also think this like I did. Oh. Yeah. Did you ever hear the story of the end of Conradka?
Starting point is 02:19:04 It's the same thing. It's the same. At different circumstances, one's getting assassinated, one's corrupting a, a protege I'm sorry I mean I get I get it
Starting point is 02:19:19 but like this is 2015 is I don't know if were prequel memes really big at that time I don't think a ton I just want to point out I said to I said to Possum earlier if neither of them immediately think of this I'm going to be disappointed
Starting point is 02:19:36 and Possum was like Parsham was on my side Possum was like yes they absolutely should So I'm just saying, it's too much I know how my parents feel. I think Shai has the casting vote. And honestly, it could go either way.
Starting point is 02:19:51 It sort of depends on who she, who she did like more in this moment. I think Shai's run out of liquor and she just doesn't care. I'm going to say it's, okay, hang on, oh, wait, shy is typing.
Starting point is 02:20:03 This is ominous. This could decide the future of, okay, she just wants all of this to die. Okay. Well, I can't, Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 02:20:14 As the apothecaries were called in to clean up the mess, Fain looked around the chamber. Of Isadwai or Beast Cruel, there was no trace. Also, don't ask what happened to terror or anything after Van Gritch was shot. That's for another time, and it's just not in the books. So, all right. Yeah. They didn't want to cover that.
Starting point is 02:20:38 They weren't interested. Move on. What is in the books is the following. and I'm quoting verbatim. Absolutely no joke. The last chapter of the book, of the last book of this series is from the perspective of Eldrad Ulthran
Starting point is 02:20:55 watching all of this happen, stating that humanity is now focused on chaos, but beasts never die, they're only banished. Citing the battle cry of Mag Urug Thrake echoing through the threads of time, while the lights dwindled on the craft worlds. The last line in this entire series is...
Starting point is 02:21:20 It was the Eldar. This 12 books, the last line is Eldrad Ultherin would not mourn. He would see the days of greatness return no matter how long it took. The Real War of the Beast was finishing this whole series, but we did it. Congratulations.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Hooray. My head hurts, actually. I was really hoping that the El-Trad would be like, these humans, all they do is slaughter each other. And then I hear the audiobooks on effect where it's like, dun-d-d-d-dun, this has been audible. And then that whole thing after that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:07 What? Look, I've already had this conversation with Parson, but I would love to probably very quickly hear your thoughts on it since we've been recording for nearly two and a half hours. Fuck me. The last
Starting point is 02:22:23 this episode ironically had some of the worst and best parts of it. Yeah. It's a real roller coaster. Why? And this is a genuine question. And if any of the authors would like to reach
Starting point is 02:22:39 out to us, there's contact information, I'm sure, available on the channel. On my channel, we've all got social media. There's a Discord server. Also, please don't take anything we, like, I hope you understand that. Please don't be too mad at me specifically. We have already stated, and I, I've pointed this out, we've already stated last episode, everyone involved in the writing of this series has written good books.
Starting point is 02:23:11 They have. It's not a case of hate the author because you've done great stuff. We just don't understand what happened with this particular series. So if someone can maybe enlighten us as to why the last line of a series about orcs fighting the Imperium
Starting point is 02:23:34 was dedicated to fucking Eldrad Ulthran an elder saying, Oh, yeah, the elder would be great again. Yeah, I don't. I don't know, man. I'm just, it's, it has no relevance to anything that happened in 12 novels. You can't just think a random guy at the end and go, you know what?
Starting point is 02:24:00 We're going to be good. What do you mean? What are you talking about? Why is that the ending? It's the last line. Oh, my God. I can't. We need to close out before
Starting point is 02:24:14 Kariath has like a literal aneurysm and just. I'm starting to bleed out of my eyes. I just don't understand. I assume it's the same as always. All right. Here's the outline. Here are the stuff.
Starting point is 02:24:26 Here are the threads. What are we forgetting? What needs to be, we need to be rounded out. Oh, we got great about the LDAR. Stick it at the end. The book is due in 73 minutes.
Starting point is 02:24:36 If that. Yeah. How far in are you? I've done two pages. Okay, well, we need 250 more in an hour. Go, go, go, go. I just, I don't, it's, I know the Eldar were in it. I know the Harlequins were in it.
Starting point is 02:24:51 I know we had the whole, like, the Craft World Ulth Way, we're calming the warp to allow reinforcements, et cetera, et cetera. And maybe if it comes down to it, like Eldrad is the one viewing all of this. He's like the narrator for the story. You've got to make that more. clear. You can't just drop that at the end. He'd be like, and it was this guy watching all along
Starting point is 02:25:15 because that's commonly known as dog shit writing. Commonly. You can't just drop it in there, you know? Yeah, it's I, I don't. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm exhausted.
Starting point is 02:25:32 I, I am just, I am exhausted. This is, it's just, it's, it's, just sprinkling of of good ideas and potential that never, ever reached its full whatever. It's just, I am exhausted. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And I was, I was trying really hard to sort of push through as, as not, I didn't want to rush it.
Starting point is 02:26:04 But at the same time, oh, my God, there's so much just weird shit. to go through and so many decisions where you go, okay. I can kind of see it, but does it fit? And the answer is obviously no for a lot of it. But then there's like really cool moments that then turn out to be not, not that cool in the end.
Starting point is 02:26:31 And I don't know. I like, it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. We did it. We did it. And let's be honest. it may have taken us, like, it was fun to experience, like getting waterboarding on a roller coaster.
Starting point is 02:26:48 It felt like it was just a lot of unrealized potential. Like, the ideas are there, the concepts are there. It's just, but it's never, it's never realized in like a great way. I think that's a perfect way to describe it. And look, if you sit in there thinking, oh my God, this has been like a 10-hour series and the third episode was a significant Because it has. 10 hours. I was going to say, more than 10.
Starting point is 02:27:14 Oh, I mean, this one is, we're literally close to two and a half hours, which is, you know. Wrap it up, Kyria. You're welcome. I don't know. Just spare a thought for Possum, who went through this entire series, read all of it to bring you the abridged version. you don't have to go through what Possum went through. And that's impressive. Like, I did read the series.
Starting point is 02:27:49 Admittedly, some bits completely bypass me. But the fact is, it wasn't good. It wasn't good. And someone suffered for the entertainment. And I feel like we got the best version by doing it this way. So I think if ever Potsam deserves some some kudos, it's for this. Because October has been simultaneously some of the funniest, most disappointing and baffling content that we have ever put out. And that is all down to, that is all down to Possum himself.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Mm-hmm. A massive congratulations to Possum. the ad revenue from these videos will go directly to your AA sponsor. Yeah, well, the whole time, Kira was like, oh yeah, Possom had to suffer through this in my head in the arms of an
Starting point is 02:28:47 angel was playing like, you know, from the in the arms Poor Possom had to suffer through reading the entire War of the Beast. Won't you donate your local charity to help possums like him who had to read War of the Beast?
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