Adeptus Ridiculous - We have come for you! Konrad Curze & The Night Lords | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome everyone to the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. I'm D.K. And this podcast is all about learning. We're going to be learning about the ridiculous world of Warhammer from lifelong fan Bricky, because I am a relative newbie. And we got to give a huge shout out to all of our patrons over at patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous because Bricky, we are less than $50 away from the $2,000 goal. Oh shit. I didn't realize, I didn't realize that close. Hot damn.
Starting point is 00:00:48 $1,978 per month as of recording this episode. So we are right there. And once we have that $2,000 goal, we're going to be uploading a lot more to the YouTube channel, a lot of gaming content, more mini painting and stuff like that. So again, if you enjoy the episode, definitely go over to patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. Sign up. You get access to our Discord, which is always. bump in and we have, we have emotes all over that joint. We have... Yes, we do. We just got a new one. I'm not sure who that is. I think it's a harlequin. Oh, it's, it's Keckarach.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 And you also get, like, outtakes and bloopers, because I am always ruining the intro, and that's usually what the bloopers are all about, but not today, shy. Not today. We also have really cool HD posters, so definitely. go check out the patron. But today, we're doing Nightlords. And the only thing I know about Night Lords is they're blue, they have wings, and apparently they're terrorist-y. So, lifelong fan, Bricky.
Starting point is 00:03:01 That's the episode. Do-Doop, take us home, Bricky. All right, my friends. So remember 9-11? It's pretty bad, right? I'd say it was pretty bad. So Conrad Kerr has looked at that. Conrad Kurz was like, I could do better.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And that is the story of the night lords. So, so, okay, okay, so no meme. Because Jesus. So no, no meme. I knew, I think the night lords may have been my least knowledgeable, like, space marine legion. I think I knew more about every other chaos legion more than I knew about them. Because I'm trying to think of all the other chaos legions out there.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm trying to think of like, like the Emperor's Children, the Death Guard, the alpha okay I can't necessarily say I know much about the Alpha Legion but that's not fair and there are so many other ones like even the Iron Warriors and all I knew plenty of
Starting point is 00:03:52 Night Lords I knew Jack and I gotta say I'm a bit of a believer I am I was floored I normally only have about two pages of notes I've got four I am
Starting point is 00:04:10 Conrad Kerr's is a really really interesting character. This episode, I don't know if Shai's going to name this one like the Night Lords. This episode should really be called Conrad Kerr's and the Night Lords or something like that because this episode is almost entirely dedicated to Conrad Kerr's. He is a really well-written Primark. I am so surprised. I hope the Five Night Lords fans are really happy right now because this is great.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I'm so stoked. There have to be more than five Night Lords. fans because like I remember when we were pitching ideas for the next one like night lords were popping up everywhere for me like in the discord people were like oh I got to see how DK reacts to Conrad Kerr's and the nightlords uh I was seeing that my Twitch chat like oh hey when are you guys gonna cover the nightlords because oh my god I can't wait to see like they they gotta be kind of popular right a little bit maybe maybe maybe just because they're so like brutal that it's kind of interesting but you know
Starting point is 00:05:10 maybe maybe we should just get into it and then you can find out for your yourself. Yeah, let's just, let's just do that. So, uh, the night lords are the eighth space marine legion. They're chaos undivided, which means they're one of the few chaos marines that didn't actually follow a specific god. They're just kind of like, like spread across the whole deal. They just kind of follow whatever. Like, you know, Deathguard plagues to Nurgel. Yeah. A thousand suns the scenes. They're just kind of there. There's a couple of people like that. I think, um, like the word bearers and Horace's boys at the time. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So they just follow chaos in general? Yeah, they just kind of follow, like, they're just like the will of the dark gods, as opposed to particularly being in the pocket of a specific god. Most of the gods don't like that, but it's more of like a, well, whatever, I'll just deal with it. Oh, okay. Yeah, at least your chaos. Yeah, at least you're working for us. So as we remember, as you know, good old zinche or whoever,
Starting point is 00:06:07 yointed all of the primarks from the Big E's Lab and threw them across the galaxy. Now, Mr. Conrad Kurz landed on a planet called Nostromo And Estromo is a human hive world So it's one of those like imagine New York but across the planet type thing Yeah, yeah It's just all cities Yeah, it's just pure cities And it's world
Starting point is 00:06:30 Okay, well first things first The dude flew into the planet so hard He like blew through the crust And went very close to the molten cold of the planet and then he like had to punch his way back to the surface as an infant. So he already started off bad.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But, wait, he got yeated into the planet so hard. He went through the crust and came close to the liquid magma core of the planet. Very close.
Starting point is 00:07:03 So this is a mining world. This is a mining world. This world is like a bunch of adamantium which is like a thing in this, not just like a Wolverine thing. Like, Adamatim is a legitimate thing. Right. And so they mine it a ton.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So it may have been like a little bit brittle or whatever, but he just went like, woo! And he had to punch his way out. Now, Nostromo is practically a character. Like this planet, I was literally streaming Minecraft yesterday. And I wanted to download a mod to increase the rain and make it perpetually night, to make it like a Nostromo city. Because Nostromo orbits a dying star.
Starting point is 00:07:41 whose light barely touches the planet. So this is a planet in perpetual darkness. It is night forever. And it rains a ton. And it's just, it's, it's always night. There's no sun. And because of this. It's like the perfect place for night lords.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I get it. That's where they get it. I get it. I get it. It's all coming together. The pieces are coming together. Yeah. Now, most of the planet lived in complete abject poverty.
Starting point is 00:08:09 the wealthy of course owning a lot of the mining stuff the nobles and the lords but because of that crime was completely unchecked this is an entire planet of Detroit okay this whole planet was Detroit and their depression was massive due to the lack of sunlight and stuff and honestly the only thing keeping the population growth in line was suicide When that's your only form of population control, that's a Warhammer. This is a super Warhammer planet. This is so Warhammery. This might as well be the poster Legion for Warhammer. So whenever I think of video games, I tend to think about, like, who has had the worst time? Like, who's had just, like, the worst time in games? And I think, like, like, Joel from the First Last of Us had a pretty bad time.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And I keep thinking about different people And I think about, you know what, Isaac Clark from Dead Space Had a really bad time, you know? Yeah Conrad Kurz is the Isaac Clark So he was not taken in by anybody He grew up alone
Starting point is 00:09:24 He was not given a foster family He lived and raised himself in the hive city Killing feral rodents And feasting on them in corners of dark machinery rooms He was slept where people couldn't see him and him like many of the other people on that place were like super pale because of the no light no light sure and of course adding to the fact that he had no family no friends he was completely alone he also was plagued by consistent and constant visions of a dark nightmarish future and
Starting point is 00:09:56 every time he went to bed he had nightmares of just like everyone dying he had nightmares of his own death. He had nightmares of the people of Nostromo calling for his name. He just was constant visions of just destruction. And even as a child, he had to kill and murder people to live. And eventually
Starting point is 00:10:18 as time went on, he kind of just felt like people were kind of weaker than him because even as like a 10-year-old he was a prime-ar because he would like body 20-something year olds. Yep, yep. And sometimes he ran out of food, so he would kill and he would cannibalize. because he had no
Starting point is 00:10:33 he had no food he was hungry you know it's just like that plane crash you know you gotta make a decision do you die or do you cannibalize was that the rugby guys
Starting point is 00:10:44 yeah I think so yeah yeah I remember that that was fucked yeah well so was this does anything could happen to Conrad did anything good happen to him
Starting point is 00:10:56 yeah did anything good ever happen to him well let's let's look kinda So eventually, eventually either like some kind of like maybe like a inner being or like a personal pride or maybe divine or divinity from the emperor or just something. He was determined to bring Nostromo some like kind of justice, right? So as time was going on, gang members, criminals like rapists, they were found like just kind of disappearing. They just sort of stopped showing up. then they would show up as their bodies would show up crucified onto the walls and and mutilated. Large sheets of their skin would be hung off of bridges and their heads piked onto railings.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Severed body, severed body parts clogged storm drains. Oh, God. This just keep happening. Like, all of these criminals would just go away. Yeah, and then show up like this. Hard to feel bad for them, but holy shit. Well, most of the planet was criminals, if I'm being honest. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So then this became like a story. He was then deemed as like the Knight Haunter, which is the name of Conrad Kurz. That's his nickname, the Knight Haunter. Okay. Some people considered him like an avenging spirit, angel of blind, justice, the murderer of murderers, all that kind of stuff, right? Okay. Gang members were sent to go get him to stop him. And they would return with no eyes, with their eyes plucked out and no hands.
Starting point is 00:12:35 But their tongues left specifically to say the simple phrase, I am coming for you. And now he started, he started small. He started, like, eventually someone was getting mugged and he'd go help. Then he would start tracking down the muggers. Then mafia syndicates. Then syndicate leaders. He, he, he, he, fuck. He even saw suicide as a crime.
Starting point is 00:12:58 so if someone was going to kill themselves he'd go to them and then like murder and mutilate them so they don't kill themselves oh god wait I know I know I know I know I know okay I was like this is really adeptus ridiculous because he saw suicide as a crime so he mutilated and murdered the person so it's like he's like trying to send a message right that's obviously what you're doing. Other people that like, hey, don't suicide. Don't kill yourself. Don't kill yourself or I'll torture you. Jesus Christ. I thought you were just getting like, oh yeah, you know, if you were going to commit suicide and he found out about it, he'd find you, mutilates you, torture you, but leave you just
Starting point is 00:13:44 enough alive that you would regret trying it again or something. But no, just, you just kill you. The punishment for crime is death. Every crime was death. You see, after one year, crime rate dropped to nil. near zero. Oh. The,
Starting point is 00:14:00 the night haunter was a horror story you told the children. Like, there was no curfew enacted for the laws, but personal curfews of like,
Starting point is 00:14:10 don't go out past 10. We're taking into effect. Conrad himself went to the hierarchy of rich nobles and the criminals and said, hey, like, kneel to me or die. Some did.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Some didn't. And with that, some died. And with that, he became the first, ever self-imposed ruler of Nostromo. He was the first monarch.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Let me read you a quote from good old Conrad Kurz. This is going to be so bad, isn't it? This is him addressing the gathering of like nobles. He says, by reason, by truth, I have learned how your hearts
Starting point is 00:14:50 and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture at the cost of freedom. Peace reigns as I reign. I wouldn't expect your little minds to understand. You are a little man with little dreams. You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard, peace at the cost of surrendering all choice, but freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulders. Yes, yes, but every sin is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime, no matter the scale of the
Starting point is 00:15:23 him. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you. Yes, listen, listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene? So it's weird because, like, he's like Batman and the Joker. The joke is that he's like Batman, because the Batwings and everything. But he's Batman, but yo, I'm going to cut your penis off and put it in a storm drain. Like, he's very weird. like super murder Batman which is indeed very weird
Starting point is 00:15:58 uh Jesus he's boy um but hey that crime rate though right zero almost nothing flatlined good for him
Starting point is 00:16:09 I think so he was known as the dark king of of Nostromo and would rule through fear alone as he just hunted people who didn't agree with him sometimes he was benevolent
Starting point is 00:16:21 sometimes more The people of the city, of the world, they shared increased efficiency in the mining and export of adamantium, the output. They shared the wealth as they shared fear. Like, after a few decades, there was zero crime, actually zero. Literally numb. The city was completely silent after a certain period of time. He had no need to hunt people anymore because anyone he did hunt. hunt, he would, he would publicly broadcast to every TV in every household that he forced to put in
Starting point is 00:17:02 there and he would take the criminal and he would mutilate and torture them on camera and broadcast it to the entire planet. Oh, wow. He's like, look at this criminal. And now watch as I like pull off his legs. Oh, God. In the TV he installed in every house. every single household.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Mm-hmm. Efficiency went up tenfold. The people became rich. The entire planet prospered. It became a paradise. Besides the fact that it was dark as fuck is always raining. But in terms of like financial paradise. Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It was as good as it could be. I mean, there's not a whole lot you can do about fixing that it's always dark. It's, you know, it's a dying star. So, but damn, the fact that you could get a planet like that that was just all murders and rapists and just, well, to zero. No one wants to be mutilated by a,
Starting point is 00:18:02 like a 10 foot tall, pale, greasy, haired monster. Yeah, I was like, that's a lot of murder. So, can you guess who came next? I mean, if I had to guess, isn't it always the Imperium or Ems that shows up at some point? You know it. Biggie's on his way. Of course he is.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Now, naturally, though, Curz knew this was coming because he still was forced into these, like, nightmares. Emperor arrived. And basically, so it's kind of assumed that Curse had, like, some kind of psychic foretelling. Did you ever watch that one Simpsons episode where Ned Flanders would touch people and he would see how they die?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Sounds vaguely familiar. So it was an old Stephen King book called The Dead Zone. where a guy would touch someone and he would visualize their death. Okay. The Simpsons one was called the Ned Zone because, you know, it's pretty good. He kind of had that. His nightmares and fear kind of had this psychic foretelling. Like he would dream of terrifying things of his own death of his brothers killing each other
Starting point is 00:19:12 by the hands of like each other. He would dream all this stuff, but he just wouldn't say anything because he basically dreamed a nightmarish future. And he just knew it. Right. Like, Emperor Landon, with his whole crusade, with his like thousands of ships, like, blotting the sky. And he came down there. And this giant lockstep of soldiers.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And all these people were watching and like, oh, my God, holy shit. Like, what in the goddamn hell? They were scared into submission. They saw this just insane failings of people. In fact, because of the way Nostromo's light was, anyone who looked at, you know, looked directly at the emperor was permanently blinded. He was, because he glowed so bright with his golden armor and flaming sword that their, their pale skin and their retinas couldn't handle it.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So, like, they could, like, see him out of the corner of their eye, but if they looked directly at them, they were blinded forever. Damn. Forever? They were permanently blinded. Damn. It went blind. I mean, I guess it's true.
Starting point is 00:20:17 There's so little light on the planet that even the emperor is so fucking. he's such a bright larger-than-life character that yeah I make sense it's like it's like getting those some guys who were trapped in a mine for a while like a bunch of albino guys and be like flashbang out like it's just not a good idea it's fair that's that's fair representation of okay got so all of them made their way up to the dark king's throne as he's sitting there just totally quiet and for smaller than the emperor, but four men stood in front of him. And the first one walked up and greeted him first,
Starting point is 00:20:58 and his name was Rogal Dorn, the primark of the imperial fists. And as Kerr saw him, his like mind's eye, that's what they kind of call his visions. He saw the man being dragged to his death by a hundred murderers in a dark, dark tunnel. And then the second person that stood up was like a man named Lorgar. And he saw him surrounded by, a psychic fire beaming into the sky.
Starting point is 00:21:25 The third one was Ferris Manus, primark of the iron hands. And he saw him with an eyeless head being clutched by an armored warrior,
Starting point is 00:21:36 which was when he got decapitated by Fulgrim in the Battle of the Dropside Massacre. I was going to say these sound like some accurate visions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And then the last guy was Fulgram that walked up as well. and I forget what Fulgram's was actually I don't know if Fulgram had a vision He just saw that sexy body I think he was just like ooh my god
Starting point is 00:22:00 Hey there is though But then after that the emperor went up And before he could speak Curz saw a vision so terrible that he immediately dropped to the ground And attempted to claw out his own eyeballs Before the emperor grabbed his hands and stopped him And I quote
Starting point is 00:22:20 It says, the emperor said, Be at peace, Conrad Curr's, for I intend to take you home. And then Conrad Curis said, That is not my name, father. My people gave me a name, and I will bear it until my dying day. And I know full well what you intend for me.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So, I sounded more like a pirate than Batman, but good effort, dude. I can't appreciate it. Yarr, father. The Conrad Curr is the leader. is the leader of the orcs, the free Buddhas. The free Buddha, had Buddha get into this, dude?
Starting point is 00:23:03 The free, free Buddha? No. Had the Buddhists get into this, man? God, there are no Buddhists. Religion's bad, remember? Pirates, I know, I know, I know, I know. So, anyway, Biggie took them, took good old curse, and he brought his legion, of course. The night lords.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And the night lords used pretty much nothing but like a cold, quiet, efficient display of brutal force. The night lords were just like a blunt object of terror. And
Starting point is 00:23:41 they were really good at it. They were really good at it. But problems soon came. As soon as Conrad left Nostromo, immediately peace was gone. The moment he bailed, it went right back into lawlessness. Just complete chaos again. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And with time, the new recruits that they would get from there were not the finest warriors. They were gutter scum, criminals. And this is kind of the concept that the night lords as a legion, because the legion normally comes from Terra. And so they kind of like, they're bolstered in that way. So they're pretty normal. but it started to kind of corrupt the Legion from within as these criminals and bad and like other problems came from the stramo
Starting point is 00:24:30 that slowly the Legion became a little worse a little more terroristy and Currs of course led the Legion and they took after him and well you know that's the weird thing about them is that the night lords weren't like a necessary terrorist thing Like they enjoyed murder and slaughter just because they liked it. There was no like deep, dark, they just enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Because they were made up of like criminals and horrible people from Nostromas. Yeah, and they're just, yeah, they're just like, they just liked to maim. There's no if, answer, buts. They just slowly became to really enjoy what they were, what their job was. And the emperor used it quite well. It's like he would use them as terror troops. He would, normally he would like, normally he would like, have a planetary governor
Starting point is 00:25:22 who would refuse a tithe. Like, I need 100,000 guardsmen, and the governor was like, no. And he would be aware of that, and he would send out the night lords. And often, they would be like, oh, okay, and they would just give them their dudes. And then sometimes we would have,
Starting point is 00:25:37 and I quote, we have received your offer of surrender and reject it. We did not come to receive your supplication, but to enact a judgment. The time to surrender has long passed. The verdict is written by your own hands, Now is the time to die.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Okay, I'm sorry. Here's our due. It's like, too bad. Too late. You should have done this sooner. Now you die. Jeez. Sir, the time to put your test on the online portal was exactly one hour ago.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You have failed the class. Forfeit your life. Jeez. I mean, what better terror squad to have, though, right? That's what they do. I mean, they're really good at their job. Remember the flayed ones and the necrons? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:24 So, like, you showed me earlier the Nightlord Raptors, which was the old jetpack group of nightlords. Yeah. If you look at them, they're donned with heads and skulls and skin, draped all over their armor. Oh, yeah, they are, aren't they? Yeah, like a flayed one. A flayed one in a necron has a virus,
Starting point is 00:26:47 where it, uh, like, It doesn't make any sense that it hungers for human flesh. It has an insatiational appetite to drape itself in human flesh or hunger for human flesh, which makes no sense because it's a robot. These guys are just like, yo, skin! And they just like slap it on them. Yo, skin, and then, they do it because they think it's cool and fun. The necrons are literally like disease, not disease, but they're... They've got a virus.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They're something wrong with them, yeah. It makes no sense, but they just like, they got a fun. problem. They're just like, whoa! So... When I first sent you the picture of those minis, I didn't notice that that was flayed flesh, and I'm like, oh, God, they are terrible. That is, those are decapitated heads, and that's, that's a literal flesh loincloth. Yeah. Out of context, that's a little weird to say, but... The man just takes some dude scrotum and he just puts it there. That's like a little...
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's like, oh, we've got to use a loincloth so you can't see my junk, but I'll cover it with another dude's junk. I'll cover it with more. I'll cover my scroat with more scroat. It's like double bagging. Scroatception, dude. The Stromo recruits,
Starting point is 00:28:01 they continue to poison the Legion. And as the poisoning continued, he started having far worse dark visions. His nightmares got a lot worse. His Legion, fighting other legions. It kept on plaguing him. He saw his own death constantly.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Now, he realized his home world's state. and he really tried confiding in his brothers about it, but none of his brothers cared. None of them liked him. They saw him as a pale, creepy gremlin. Because he had like jet white skin and grease the, they saw him as a freak. Consistently.
Starting point is 00:28:44 The only person who showed him any real respect, I think, was Horace, because Horace was nice to everybody, and I think full grim. I might be a little wrong on that one but I think Fulgram was one of the only ones that was like okay with him This reached a breaking point though He had a big mission with the emperor's children Which was Fulgrim
Starting point is 00:29:03 Himself and the night lords and the imperial fists Which was Rogel dorm And he immediately had An insane, nightmarish vision fit And he collapsed to his knees And he started like freaking the fuck out So Fulgram rushed to his aid and through like tears
Starting point is 00:29:21 he told Fulgroom everything he told him all the visions he's been having the heresy his own death he told him everything he could
Starting point is 00:29:29 he confided in his brother and Fulgroom took this information to Rogel Dorn and we haven't covered Rogel Dorn yet but he's been brought up a couple times
Starting point is 00:29:40 but not in depth I like Dorn a lot I think he's really cool but if you looked up in the dictionary stick up its ass You'd find a picture of Rogaldorne. He is such a, like, by the book, like emotionless.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Just, he's super, he doesn't have a lot of sympathy. He's very, like, cold calculated. Oh, great. This is going to end well for our night lord buddy then, isn't it? Well, good old Dorn did not take this lightly, these statements. And he went to go confront Conrad Kerr's. And then when Fulgram went to go see what happened, Dorn was found unconscious on the ground with large chunks of skin missing from his torso.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And, and Curse... I wonder what happened. Well, Curz was still there. He didn't leave. He was in complete tears. He, in guilt and anguish, he was, like, bawling. And because he didn't know what the hell he was doing. It's like, he's, like, looking at his bloodstained hand, like, not able to control himself.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So he was then taken into custody for this, obviously. Sure. And while they were trying to figure out what to do with him because they're like, he's our brother, he obviously has a problem. Something's wrong with him. After they decided if they figured out what they were planning on doing, they went to go to his cell, and there were two completely butchered and maimed Imperial Fist guards,
Starting point is 00:31:03 and he was gone. And so what he did was he took a ship, and either through a twist of fate or the warp just being, or chaos gods, he traveled all the way back to his home planet, of Nostromo and his brothers did not follow suit. They tried to, but I guess they were too slow. The warp slowed them down or something.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Now, Nostromo, being the horrible, horrible place, had upped its mining efficiency pretty heavily. So a lot of the core and the crust of the planet was rather volatile. Curse saw this planet, his upbringing, the source of his visions, the source of the corruption of his group. He saw it disgusting
Starting point is 00:31:49 and it's sinking back into its own ways a planet of criminals and they thought the emperor would like, would understand but no so Conrad Kerr's that the only thing he thought was best he was like this big red button that says exterminatus Oh, I was worried that's where you were going
Starting point is 00:32:08 And he went Well blamo and he fired one single lance of light into the molten core of Nostromo Oh. And like that, billions upon billions of people just immediately died. I post a picture of what the planet looks like. God damn.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Just the molten crust just cracked and burned the entire surface, a jet black. Wow, that's, that's extreme. It is. It's almost like when you've got a problem with yourself. and this is a physical embodiment of everything wrong with you. So if I destroy this, if I destroy this poison, I'll be okay again. I'll stop having nightmares. I'll stop feeling horrible.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It didn't. I was going to say it didn't work, did it? Because this is Warhammer, and that'd be way too easy. I say way too easy. Oh, you just blew up a planet, his own planet, too easy. But yeah, there's no way that was going to solve all its problems. I'm okay now, guys. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Don't worry about it. I'm chill now, bro. I'm chill now. So after doing so, he thought the emperor would understand. Like, he, the emperor consistently would try to reprimand him for being too terrorist-y, but he never did anything. The emperor was always like, you better knock that off, curse, just a little too-terroristy, but he never punished him.
Starting point is 00:33:43 He felt like the emperor was just trying to save face. you know, trying to be like... He was just wagging his finger at him and not actually doing anything. No, he didn't do anything. And he's thought the emperor would agree with him. Like, the emperor was very angry. It's like you said specifically to use the power of force to thwart those he doesn't agree with.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like he allowed sanctioned terrorism and destroying a planet of criminals is somehow not acceptable. Yeah, fair. It is a giant planet of criminals, yeah. What the imp is done? With the shit he's done, he's like, you fucking hypocrite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Emper's not a lot worse than just exterminate on us a planet full of criminals. Yeah, he's kind of a douche. So, Chris is like, fuck you, dad. Not only did you not show me any love, all of you my brothers hate me. I've got something wrong with me, and I don't know what it is, and I can't fix it. And so, after that, I'll do another quote. says, I have seen darkness, witnessed it in my dreams. I am standing at the edge of a chasm. There is no escaping it. I know my fate. For it is the future and nothing can prevent it coming
Starting point is 00:34:55 to pass. So I step off and welcome the dark. This is kind of the turning point for Conrad. Yeah. When Horace fondly turned traitor, he was more than willing to join, both out of anger and just because you got to kill more people. Yeah. I was going to. say it probably doesn't take a whole lot to push Conrad into being with Horace and with the heresy and turning on the Imperium I'm sure that was
Starting point is 00:35:24 just like hey you want to and before I can even finish like yeah sure yeah yeah I'll go with you yeah sure I'm down let's let's do it like Horace was like you can kill and murder and maim as much as you want and him and his Legion were like fuck yeah sign me up
Starting point is 00:35:39 it's an outlet it's like he's like at this point I'm just I this is all I can do this this satiates me. I need something. So it's just a good outlet for him. It's like an outlet for his rage. Yeah. Obviously, like I mentioned earlier, he doesn't pledge to a single god. Do you remember the drop site massacre?
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yes. Yes, I do. Okay. So Ferris Manus was killed by Fulgrim. They did like a flank on Vulcan and everything. So Vulcan was captured by Conrad. Vulcan, probably the salamanders, that is. But Vulcan, because of the way they write
Starting point is 00:36:14 nowadays is a perpetual, which means you can never truly die. Right. So he'll just like kind of rebuild himself from like practically the atoms he exists of. Okay. Which is, in my opinion, stupid. But it's just what they did. For a while, Vulcan was like those characters that was just super badass and would never seem to die. He would survive crazy things.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I guess they wrote a reason why. It kind of underplays the coolness of it. But basically he can't die. He can consistently regenerate himself. It doesn't mean doesn't. feel pain though. He still feels everything. So, so, you know, take for what you will. You know, maybe living forever in 40K isn't a good thing. If you're going to feel everything, that might be more of a curse than a blessing. Yeah. But Conrad at this point was really going
Starting point is 00:37:07 off the deep end. He was going pretty crazy. So he decided that the best thing that he could do was to torture Volk him consistently. He was angry that he can't seem to kill him. So he instead took sadistic pleasure in torturing him. And even though it erased him that he wouldn't die, he took a hundred bolters and close range shot him. He had him stripped and flayed. He like threw him out of Neroak into deep space.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He took psychers and he would fuck with his brain so that he would constantly be forced to do like a noble task save a civilian or like save a child and make it so that he would fail every time just to constantly run into these mental ringers and he kept he just kept going this went on for God knows how long and Vulcan the entire time would not break his mind would stay there
Starting point is 00:38:03 like his body broke oh yeah Tim but his mind would not would not break because Vulcan's a fucking boss. I was going to say getting tortured for that long and having a body that never dies and constantly feeling that and constantly like
Starting point is 00:38:20 hi shit I was gonna be like he must have gone crazy. He must have gone bat shit insane because it's like at that point you're just like please kill me like I want even if he couldn't. Even if he couldn't. Yeah well he couldn't but I'm sure at that point Vulcan is just like
Starting point is 00:38:37 oh god I fucking hate this power yeah by that point he's I'm like, man, this sucks. This is bullshit. Let me die. He was like bludgeon to death. He was like stabbed. He was so much shit.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It was stripped, like he was put into like like strip naked and just thrown out the airlock. He was like thrown into like the engine, the machinery. Like everything that could have happened to him happened to him. Eventually he wanted he still wanted to break his mind. So we haven't talked about Percharabo yet. He's the prime mark of the iron warriors. Him and Orgel Doran have like a like a feud. But Perciarabo is like a siegeer guy.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But basically he's really good at building mazes and bullshit. Okay. So he created a gigantic maze. Nye impossible to understand. Like, completely impossible. It was kind of crazy what exactly he had. But basically, it was like a mental labyrinth that had featureless walls and strange geometry that made it impossible to map out an escape.
Starting point is 00:39:40 after like three turns, you couldn't map anything else. And it was basically the concept that like, okay, I want to make Vulcan go crazy by trying to wander this labyrinth and eventually go insane. Because obviously killing him doesn't work. I need to break him this way. And at the end of the labyrinth was Vulcan's gigantic hammer. He has this really big hammer, which is actually super cool.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But basically the entire point in his war hammer, hammer, ha. Well, you know, to give him there. But Vulcan, being the boss that he is, eventually found his way after a long time, and he did the impossible, reclaimed his hammer, used it to fight 1V1 Curz a little bit,
Starting point is 00:40:24 but he had a secret teleporter in the hammer and he teleported away. And so he got away. And this made Kerr is very upset. You don't say, after all that work, after torturing him for that long, putting him in the maze.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Oh man. Yeah, I'm sure he was not a happy boy. No, he was not. There's also a couple very interesting things that he did. Like he fought Lionel Johnson. They had quite a crazy duel. I don't really want to get too into that one, mainly because I didn't get enough, I didn't fully find a good way to talk about it
Starting point is 00:41:01 without like skimming over way too many details. Perhaps we'll talk a little bit more about it when we do Dark Angels. But I don't. I like the character of Kerr's more than the actual, like, fighting that he does. So, gotcha. So as this goes, it is very, very, like, he's starting to become, like, a real gremlin. Like, between his pale skid and how far he's gone, he is, ugh, he is not, he is not happy.
Starting point is 00:41:30 So, so, you know, the heresy happens, Horace died. He, however, unlike the rest of his group and friends that went to the Eye of Terror, He just went to the eastern side of space and just continued to, like, terrorize people and murder people. Because out of this sheer anger of failing, he's just like, well, fuck you, I'm still going to murder people. So he just kept on, he just kept on going. Like, he would not stop.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Just doing what he loves. He absolutely adores it. And as time went, the emperor was like, okay, it's about time for this to be over. So he sent about half of the Cal, temple that is an assassin temple entirely made of I think it's mostly female assassins that wear like they do a lot of porn of them they have like a black skin tight suit but the idea is that they have a drug called polymorphine which allows them to adjust their body structure to like
Starting point is 00:42:30 go as crazy as to look like an orc it's like they can take the face of anybody like they it's practically like a shapeshifter okay um But they Handy for an assassin Oh yeah Very handy But he sent like half the whole temple To go get him
Starting point is 00:42:46 And one of them N-shen It's like M-Shen or M-Shen It's like M-apostrophe Shen Was the singular Lone agent Shai posted a picture That's actually the death cult assassins
Starting point is 00:43:00 Uh shy I'm calling you out on this one That is incorrect Let me I got this Bada Bing There you go buddy I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:43:09 can see why people make a lot of porn of them. I get it. You got it. I get it. I get it. I'm a death called assassins, maybe another day. Yeah. But the Calidus assassin and M. Schem was there and was kind of like purposely allowed to get in there.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Now, like, at this point, Curse was like a naked, hunched monster in his ship. And his last, last words were, your presence does not surprise me, assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the eastern fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your false emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication. Because this is the dream he's been dreaming about all his life.
Starting point is 00:44:03 This is him in his ship with the assassin. and the last thing we saw of Kerr's was his crazy black eyes and a lipless, cruel smile. And at that point, Conrad Kurz was killed. Em Shen is the only non-Primark, the only mortal to have ever killed a primark.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And Conrad Kerr's kind of submitted himself to death. And that's the story of Kurz. Jeez That's where we're at The night lords are still around The night lords are still around They're still operating They're still crazy
Starting point is 00:44:45 You know They still operate today Still cause tons of terrorism They're still awful Night lords are still plenty around There's actually a couple books on them That are apparently quite good They haven't read yet
Starting point is 00:44:55 Where are the night lords based now That Curz is gone Are they still out And they can't be out Like in the eastern fringes? Where he died? I don't know exactly what part of the map they're in
Starting point is 00:45:09 Because I don't remember when exactly he died But it wasn't too long past the heresy So it's been many years Oh, okay But they're still I mean it's the same thing Like the Black Legion was Horace's boys And they're still quite popular
Starting point is 00:45:21 Because of Avedon And there's still plenty of that going on But just because the Primark's gone Doesn't mean Doesn't mean the Legion is done No, because the Iron Hands are still like super popular Oh yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:45:32 Ferris is dead so so curz only died because he let the assassin kill him right like if he wanted to like if he really felt like oh yeah i i don't want to die right now he could have easily stopped it it's assumed we don't know exactly how far he degraded uh we don't know exactly to what extent he was just like a total little gremlin but it's generally assumed that way because to him his visions everything he constantly talked about everything he warned people about never, ever, ever listening to him. And he's kind of like, you know, death is suitable or is not as bad as vindication. Like, I would much rather be right in this situation than to die.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Then to survive. Yeah. There's, I don't remember if it was in the story of Troy. There was someone that was like the gods gifted them with like perfect prophetic vision. but the flip side of it was no one would ever believe them no matter what they said, no matter how many times they were right, nobody would ever believe them.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So even though they were always warning people that this fucking horrible stuff would happen, no one ever believed them, it always came to pass, that was your cross to bear. Kind of reminds me a little bit of Curse now, a little bit? Yeah, it makes sense. It sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. I mean, that's kind of Curz's thing and sees like, I would, a lot of people think that Kerr's actually had dissociative personality disorder. Oh. And the idea is that his benevolent kind self was one part of him and the knight haunter was the inner persona that he constantly had to deal with. And he kind of in a sense had two separate kind of personalities constantly in clash with each other. The, the terroristy, deep underbelly part and the normal him. and the only reason the night haunter part
Starting point is 00:47:29 succeeded was because nobody gave a shit and nobody listened or even cared. Right, right. And the idea is that possibly at the end of his death, that's kind of when the normal him was there. And he was like, okay, I can finally be free and finally die. Damn. Curse had a rough life, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Curse did not have a good time. From the very get-go, he, almost gets yeated into a fucking planet's core. Has to survive. Punches this way out. Yeah, punches his way out as an infant. Spends most of his adolescence, like, alone on a planet full of scum and criminals. I mean, hunts them down, finally gets to, like, be the leader of the planet.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Emperor comes and kind of fucks all that up. Oh God, what a shitty life That kind of sucks for him It does I guess I should say this just in case Technically We don't There's no footage of Curz's death
Starting point is 00:48:41 As the assassin leapt to kill him Like they had like camera feeds That cut out kind of thing So there's so technically There is no visual Confirmation of the kill but the assassin said she did it and you know
Starting point is 00:48:59 if they're going to pull some GW bullshit and bring him back I'll be thoroughly annoyed but I think most people are in agreement that he's pretty dead. Yeah like well with the way that story goes there would be no reason for him to like really try and fight that off or like survive right because like his death was his vindication right?
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yeah it makes complete lore set I'm assuming if they bring him back the people who will be the most angry We are the Nightlords fans, because it's, it very much is like, it works with his character. And if he does have the dissociate personality problem, then it works even better. Yeah. It's, it truly does feel like a, um, it's a fitting end for him. And it's, it's definitely a good reason why you should maybe become friends with a quiet kid at school before he, before, before he goes and hangs your buddy up by his innards.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah, and wears, where's his, uh, the flesh of his flayed. corpse as a as a kilt or something yeah good cause as a kilt yeah it's like look at my new kilt guys it's made from your friend
Starting point is 00:50:02 that's Lehman Russ's problem with all the scots oh oh I actually yes I forgot that Shai wants me to say something about the assassin that killed Conrad because she is no longer alive
Starting point is 00:50:17 oh okay so the death her death had been foreseen by his visions as well. He knew that his Legion would like let her escape. But
Starting point is 00:50:32 he also knew that Talus Valcoran, which is one of the soul hunter. It's an apothecary or former apothecary of the night lord characters. And the entirety of his legion would disobey his final
Starting point is 00:50:48 orders and pursue the assassin in the name of vengeance. And so she was relentlessly pursued across the galaxy by Nightlord Talonmaster and the former apothecary and she eventually met a horrible fate at the hands of the apothecary
Starting point is 00:51:03 the site initially holding Talos at bay he blinded her with his acidic spit deafened her with his augmented scream and impaled and disemboweled her with his chain sword and then tore her body to pieces Jesus that's a very warhammer vengeance death
Starting point is 00:51:21 isn't it? It is. However despite her death, her video recorder built into her like suit, did manage to reach Tara, which had the final words and the assassination of the night hunter. So it makes a lot of sense that he is definitely dead
Starting point is 00:51:36 because they wouldn't have gone for vengeance that hard. Yeah. But, yeah, so she does die as well in a pretty horrible death for killing the night lords. Which is the part of that they caught her because... That's a very night lord death.
Starting point is 00:51:46 That's a very night lord way to exact vengeance. Yeah. So real quick, are the... Since we always have to talk about the tabletop, a little bit. Are the night Lord's pretty good in the tabletop? Are they not that great? I know
Starting point is 00:52:00 they have minis. I don't know if they're good. If I'm being honest, they're pretty shit. But that's not really a night lord. That's not really a night lord's problem. That's a chaos space marine problem. They haven't got their codex yet, which means that they haven't gotten the fancy new tools, which is mainly more HP that the Marines have gotten. That's the main thing is that
Starting point is 00:52:21 for a while Marines only had one health. now they have two, but the chaos ones haven't been updates, so they still only have one. Oh. So that sucks for them. Yeah, it's pretty bad for them. They themselves have a couple particular abilities that I find incredibly good. Okay. Like they have, they're mainly about leadership.
Starting point is 00:52:41 So if they're near people, they lower their leadership, which makes people run away from like a morale thing. Which isn't very, it isn't very good. It's not a factor very often in Warhammer in the tabletop. but it makes sense, like, from a game point of view. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. No, they're fine. Their main thing is Raptors,
Starting point is 00:53:01 which are these Marines with, like, gigantic jetbacks. Mm-hmm. But personally, they have some, I think their best part is their stratagems, which is some fun abilities. Like, and the names are so good. Like, oh, make you hard to hit. It's called In Midnight Clad or From the Night,
Starting point is 00:53:22 pray on the week flay them alive. We have come for you. There's some pretty great ones. I know, right? Personally, they have one called Vox scream, which is my favorite. It makes it so like if you have like an aura that makes you more powerful, like a six inch thing,
Starting point is 00:53:39 it turns it off. And the actual flavor text says, hideous screams of an aggressive technovirus infiltrate the communication systems of the target, temporarily rendering it incapable of command. That's kind of cool. That sounds helpful.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Shai just posted a picture of their new Terminators, and they look... That actually looks pretty fucking cool. I got to be honest. Yeah, they look hideous in a great warhammery way, because they look nasty. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they look gross. Like, they've got all that flayed skin, one of them's... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Is he standing on organs, or is that a rock? Oh shit, he's got a big pile of organs under his foot. Yeah, that's a big pile of, I was like, anybody else. Go night lords. Yeah, night lords. It's such a night lord thing. Night lords. Yeah, and he's wrapped in the flesh of humans.
Starting point is 00:54:36 He's got that flesh loin cloth again. Dude, he do got that flesh loin cloth. They've all got it. They're covering their scroes with more scroats. He's got the double scroats. Yeah, Scroatception. You'll scrope me up, Scotty. Let's not make that a t-jose.
Starting point is 00:54:52 shirt idea. Everybody. Scrope me up, Scottie. Let's not do scrotum-based merch ideas, eh? I disagree.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I respectfully disagree. If we're going to do any merch idea, it should be Doge Van Dyer. Oh, absolutely. Every episode
Starting point is 00:55:12 needs a cameo from our boy, Doge Van Dyer. The Doge variant of the man that is literally worse than Hitler. Actually, we might have merch
Starting point is 00:55:23 coming out pretty soon actually. Oh, yeah? Yes, I'm getting it worked on right now. I've got some good, I got a good feeling about it. Oh, shit. I'm, some time.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It may come soon. Stoked, excited. Is there any questions, any concerns? Um, let's see. Um, I don't think there are any too big concerns. Um, I, I thought it was kind of weird, like, as soon as the emperor shows up, like, and as soon as, like,
Starting point is 00:55:59 Kurs has, like, this crazy vision of everything that's going to happen, um, I thought it was weird that he just immediately was like, oh, yeah, I'll go with you, Emson, sure, take my night lords, but, I mean, I guess, I guess you kind of have to, like, you can't fight the emperor. You can't fight that crazy Imperium Legion, like, you have to. Even if you think it's a bad idea and you've got visions of, oh, shit, this is going to end bad, You can't fight that with just what you got with the night lords. You kind of have to become subservient, right? Sort of that.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And also, we know that he was very big into like, I want to, like, fulfill, like, these are my visions. Like, this is my path. Even if I don't like it, I have, like, a duty to fulfill it in a certain way. Oh, okay. So he wanted to fulfill those visions that he saw. Like, he wanted those to come to pass? Well, not necessarily, but I don't know, it's kind of hard to describe, but I think maybe, you know, that's actually a great fucking question. I'm actually not 100% sure how I would describe that.
Starting point is 00:57:03 To me, it's more like the idea of it may like by following this path he might be able to stop it or more primarily, it could be more something on the lines of like if this is the path he's dreamed of. It's the path he knows. So it's the path of less fear. I don't know. I can't really, I don't know. I'm sure someone in the comments section will actually on this, me on this, but I'm not quite sure. I think I should, I would need to read the book.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I have not read the Night Haunter book. Oh, gotcha. And if I did that, I probably would know. But that's actually, I'm kind of considering, when we do book club stuff, if we get to that patronage, I think the first one we should absolutely do is Gant's Ghosts, because Gant's Ghosts is an absolute fantastic novel, and it's the one I always recommend to people.
Starting point is 00:57:49 But once we're done with some of that, Maybe we can do one of the Nightlord novels because I think, I've been told they are very, very, very good. They're like some of the best, which is surprising to me, because Night Lord's... But anyway, anything else?
Starting point is 00:58:07 D.K.? Can I, can I, Penny for your scrote figure out what our next, what our next topic might be? There's too much scrots in this episode. Well, I hope you're excited because we're talking bugs this time
Starting point is 00:58:22 because we were a little bit too mean we were too mean to them in the custodian episode and I think it's time that we give them a little bit of satisfaction so tyrannids will be next let's go let's talk about the great devourer and what might be the largest threat to the entire Imperium more than chaos I am excited about the tyrannids
Starting point is 00:58:46 I've heard a lot about the tyrannids I'm stoked And they got some fucking weird minis. They look fucking disgusting. They are so cool. They are so scary. And they are so down to join patreon.com slash adeptis ridiculous. Thank you all very much for watching this episode.
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