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Podcast. My name is D.K. Diamantes and I have been learning about all of the most ridiculous things in Warhammer 40K from my co-host Bricky.
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Anywho, DK, you already know what we're doing today.
I do.
It should be quite obvious.
We did the Primark last time,
and now we're doing like the faction overview of the white scar.
Yes, sir, and I'll be honest, it was a little hard to get a lot of stuff for this episode,
not because there isn't plenty to talk about with the white scars,
but because the con's pretty cool,
and it was hard making this episode not about con 2.0.
I thought you were going to say it was hard to make it because everybody forgot about them.
Well, that's also true.
You know, there's no records because we all forgot about them because fuck them.
You know, the white scars don't, you know, the white scars don't.
They don't deserve this man.
The more I read about them,
they almost feel like salamanders 2.0,
or may not 2.0, maybe like 0.9.
Because when you get past all of their Mongolian stuff
and all the, well, Mongolians are,
we're known for being quite savage.
But the white scars themselves kind of aren't,
only really in combat.
And once you get past all that stuff,
they're actually really nice.
We always have this issue
that we've always had this to deal with
in the past where you're like, yeah, the salamanders are the good guys.
They're really nice.
But they're also space marines in the Imperium.
So naturally, they're not morally great in a sense.
They're just like, we always joke.
They're the best of the worst.
Yeah, I always joked like, hey, in World War II, this Nazi guy decides to shield a German
family from bullets and save their lives.
Like, you can consider that noble, but the guy is,
a Nazi.
He's still pretty horrible and he's still standing up for a really, really awful cause,
but hey,
at least he did one good thing.
Yeah,
it's like that weird moral issue.
When everyone's so terrible,
yeah,
I don't know.
The point being is that they will tend to put their lives above or below the that of civilians,
being the salamanders,
they tend to put civilian lines higher.
The white scar.
are sometimes do that also a little bit, I think maybe a little bit less so, but they still
are very keen on saving lives and helping people, which is neat.
That is neat, especially for like Astardis and Imperium, because as we said, they're not
usually great people that really give the shit about anything other than themselves and
the God Emperor and whatever he will, so, yeah.
Yeah, it's important because they're obviously like, oh, no, we're, we're big important
space marines.
We don't care about regular humans.
and all that, or like, serfs and servitors.
Well, I guess you don't really need to care about servitors,
but about the rest.
Servatives are already kind of, yeah.
Yeah, they're just brain dead.
That being, that being said, though,
it's some interesting other little bits of the White Scars culture.
That's interesting.
I feel like, so someone came to my stream a bit ago
and was like, you know, Bricky,
you do realize that the white scars were based on Gengist Kong,
not on Caesar's Legion, right?
And I'm like, my dude, I know.
I'm very aware.
Oh, no.
The thing is, is that Warhammer has enough history buff boomers in its goddamn fan base.
I'm trying to get new people in there.
I'm trying to be like, hey, I know, I know Fallout New Vegas.
Yeah, get the Fallout crowd, you know?
Yeah, sure, why not?
I mean.
I mean.
Release date.
Oh, God.
New Vegas is so.
Oh my God, it's 11 years old.
Oh, no.
Actually, I was expecting more than that, because I remember playing that shit on my 360.
Yeah, it came out in 2010.
I think I've moved houses three times since New Vegas came out, at least.
So, yeah, I was expecting, like, fucking 20 years or something.
So I'm pleasantly, I'm okay with 11.
I don't feel like...
You're okay with 11?
I'm not okay with 11?
Yeah, well, you know what?
Tough shit.
That's what happens when you get old.
As you get progressive, it's like, only 10, huh?
Well, that's not so bad.
No, the student is getting snippy.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
But ironically, though, like the concept of what Genghis Khan did,
the mixing of tribes to kind of like re-reunite or reform like under an identity.
Like I said, I know, this Legion did it from Genghis Kong.
I get it, but...
He's Genghis Khan, we know. God.
He's just trying to bring him.
bring in some other historical figures into this.
Come on, guys.
I'm sure someone in the comments said the same thing,
because I don't read the YouTube comments, because I'm not insane.
Oh, God.
Yeah, if you read the comment section, oh, boy.
If you weren't insane, you're going to be insane.
That's the lesson you learned very early on in YouTube.
The comment section is a vocal minority of very angry, small people,
and you don't want to read that.
Unless it's a meme, because sometimes there are good memes.
That's true.
That's true.
So you see all good comments on a video, chances are you actually did something wrong.
Beth.
That's fair.
Anyway, here's a wonderful White Scars proverb.
The White Scars proverb is,
if you can see us, we are dangerous indeed.
But that is as nothing to the peril you face if you cannot see us,
as all you can hear is our laughter.
Oh.
I was going to say
you shouldn't be able to see a white scar
with them zipping around so much
Yeah, they're being so damn fast
You can see them but they're just like blurs
They're like those white blurs, yep
They're like those little squiggly bits
That get stuck in your eye fluid
And whenever you try to focus on it, it goes away
Oh, what the fuck were those?
Yeah, the little, yeah, I know those.
I don't know what they're called, but those things, yeah.
Yeah.
Though it is interesting because
unlike Gangus Kong
who was a
horrible nomadic conqueror
and like Uber
rapist
He was bad
He did a lot of that
He however
Unlike that
The white scars are actually
Not like that
They are not savages in that sense
They don't go around and do it for
Like and kill and murder for the sport or for fun
The white scars are
have the vibe of being like a barbarian group because of their way of warfare, because of where
they came from, because the con and their names and all that. But they're often seen as that barbarian
by their other brothers, which is actually something they tend to resent because they are
quite the opposite. The con instilled large amounts of imports on like calligraphy,
literature and painting
Oh
He's like
Chigorous
Pretty well educated
And they're
They can do calligraphy
Okay
They are
They are educated in the ways of what I assume would be Chagoras
Because not only did they remove their prior name
Some of them even used their prior name
As like a surname
But because they did their prior
Or remove their prior name
Create a new one
And have all like
You know the scar on their face and all that
They are very dedicated to the culture of their homeworld.
And so painting, calligraphy, literature, all that kind of stuff, probably philosophy, too.
That's something that they all take into pretty high regard.
Huh.
I was, I don't know why, but I just immediately pictured like full power armor Astardy's white scar,
just like with a Bob Ross Afro, just kind of making happy little trees on the canvas.
And it amused me greatly.
So thank you. Thank you for that.
He's drawing that one image that you always see on YouTube
with the samurai, like the samurai yo sound effect.
It's just him drawing that in between killing orcs.
Oh, yeah, of course.
He's painting with the blood of an orc, sure.
No, no, he's trimming a bonsai tree, but the tree is orc fungus.
I love it, though.
He's like stipping it.
That's a wonderful 40K.
Dude, that's perfect.
Kahn has a little bonsai tree, or maybe a big bonsai tree,
in his fucking, in his, his capital ships, like, bridge.
And it's just an orc.
And he comes up to it, and he, like, snips it a bit.
The orcs, like, ah!
Oh, that, that's, someone's got to make art of that, right?
Someone's got to make the orc bonsai tree that, uh, the con is just snip, snippin.
And he's, like, really proud of it.
Like, like, he'll go to his other, his go to his other guys.
Like, he goes up to, uh, I guess,
named Quinn Zah, which is the Terminator like Captain guy.
And he's like, Kin or Quinn, I don't know.
Zah will call him Zah.
Zah, hey, look, look at my beautiful tree.
He's like, he's got like, tears in his eyes because of how well it's been trimmed
and the orcas just there with like the two X's in the tongue.
And his ears are sniffed a little bit and he's got little cuts ever.
Oh, yeah.
It'd be perfect.
We need that.
So were they seen as barbarians just because like the other Astardis legions didn't like
them and they didn't like the way that they fought and they never really interacted with them other
than like, ew, look at the way they fight. They don't do traditional like drop pod stuff and all that.
They just, mm, with their bikes and I bet they're savages. I think it's a combination of that and their
lack of knowing them because obviously their fight style being so fast and laughing while doing it,
especially, is certainly against the natural way of warfare. But I would think that a lot of people
our normal pointing to,
we always point to Gilliman and Dorn
as being the uptight people.
Yeah.
So we'll point to them.
Gilliman and Dorm probably saw them as,
well, one, they came from a world
that wasn't like futile,
or way, way back at like Renaissance period time.
Yeah.
But also, kind of keeping those traditions
and also the fact that
Gilliman and Dorn most likely freed
a lot of worlds that
Because a lot of worlds ended up in that period of time because of the age of strife.
Because of all the warp storms.
So they were probably just...
Yeah, they were probably just constantly freeing a bunch of worlds from what they were assumed would be barbarism and barbaric times.
And the prime mark here was from one of those worlds and they need to respect him and his beliefs.
Oh, yeah.
And then also...
And then also...
And then also...
And taking them away from that barbarism that someone...
that a prime mark would embrace
such barbarism and
backwater towns probably
yeah I guess that would annoy them quite a bit
Also they didn't know them
No one paid the white scars any mind
And no one gave an effort to learn about them
Oh you want to know
You want to know a great exchange
Yes I do
This there is a
A wonderful exchange between
Between all the
All the brothers are talking together
And it's between the con and
Fulgrim.
Now, you don't know much about Fulgram yet.
We always have talked about Fulgram.
He's the pretty boy.
Yeah, I just know he's a sexy man.
Yeah, we always
joke that the hottest of them are like
Gila, not Gilliman, um,
sanguinius and
Sanguinius and Fulgum.
And sanguinius is the nice, noble hawk boy, but
Fulgroom is like, I'm top shit.
I'm hot shit.
Snaps his fingers and his Z formation
goes in Beverly Hills.
I always see that as
Fulgroom
and considering the picture
that Shai just posted
I'm going to
consider that even more so
but he's very fucking full of himself
no kidding
with seeing him like that
no kidding
oh god that's a slave
giving him a scroll
isn't it
okay cool
I mean they all have a lot of slaves
that's true they do
that's fair
okay
though it was
they were having a conversation
about Horace
I think it was about
Horace being elected
as war master
master. And it's, and I'll read the excerpt. It says,
Sanguinius looked at the Khan thoughtfully. I thought you of all of us would feel joy for Horace.
The Khan shrugged. He's the best of us. I begrudge him nothing and I have told him so,
but it should never have happened. And Fulgram says, so what? It should have been you and
Mortarian and was like, ha!
Khan, I wouldn't have taken it. Of course you would have.
I have no use for another title. My people give me enough.
Sanguania smiled.
I think you are most inscrutable of us all.
I know what Rogel wants, and I know what Rabutei wants,
but even after so long, I have no idea what you want.
He wants to be left alone, said Fulgrim,
to shoot off into the stars and hunt down Zenos
on those delightful jet bikes.
They're devilishly fast, I heard from a contact on Mars.
Jagatai, I heard that you do strange things to your ships.
The Khan shot him a heavy-litted stare.
I heard you do strange things to your warriors.
Oh, damn.
I can confirm he do.
He do strange things to his warriors.
Oh, damn.
Kane ain't taken no shit.
Fulgroom's slender face
briefly flared with ray anger,
but sanguineas laughed.
I wonder which one of you would win in a duel,
the angel muse.
I would like to see that.
You both handle a blade like gods.
Name the place, brother, Fulgrim said to the con.
I'd even travel to Chagoras if you built a palace to keep the dust from my armor.
The con felt the insult.
It stabbed at him deeply, but his expression never changed.
They would never know, none of them, how much their close fraternity rankled him.
You would lose, said the con.
Fulgroom grinned, but there was something fragile in it.
It's like you would lose because you would treat it like a game, like you treat everything.
And I would not.
You would lose because you know nothing.
of me and I know everything of you
because you shout it from the turrets of your
battle cruisers. My prowess
remains unknown. You have some
reputation as a swordsman brother,
but I make no boast when I tell you that I would
leave you choking on it.
Oh.
He ain't taking no shit, man.
No shit. I put my money on
Jagatai Khan.
Oh, I would...
There's another thing we'll talk about later
that I would absolutely put my money on Khan.
Way more, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he's, it's a combination of, like,
the enemy that is unknown, you know, commands the greatest fear,
because you don't know, because you know con fights fast,
but, yeah, you know con fights fast,
but he doesn't run around showing his trophies of swordsmanship or anything.
I mean, yeah, Fulgram's good.
He did kill a Primark, but I assume that.
Oh, yeah, I guess he did, didn't he?
As far as I'm concerned, if Kahn wanted to kill Ferris Manus,
he could have done it, too, who cares.
Khan's never had a chance to kill a prime mark, though, has he?
Con only tried to kill Mortyrean in that one duel,
and the fact that he was even able to hold his own against Mortarian,
who was like twice his height, not really, but very fucking big.
And at that time he was a, Mortarian was a demon primark at that time, too, right?
No, he hadn't ascended yet.
Oh, okay, gotcha, got you, got you.
I think he maybe had a little bit of warp energy in his veins or something, but,
I was going to say if he held his own against demon primark
Mortarian then it's like whoa
That would be also impressive
But no Mortarian was the idea of like
The unmovable failings
He was nigh unkillable
But the con was nigh unhittable
Mertarian could barely land a hit on that dude
Because he's a blur of motion
And Mortarian would get hit a bunch of times
And he's like
I don't give a shit
Shrug that shit off
Watch me face tank everything
Oh, mortarium.
Oh, mortarium.
I'm assuming the con is probably top three in terms of like,
everyone always tries to argue who are the best at fighting,
the best like swordsmen, the best duelists.
Yeah.
And I do believe that the con is probably top three.
Ironically.
Gilliman won.
No, definitely not Gilliman.
Oh, who would you put at number one?
Oh, I don't know who's, maybe the lion?
Oh, okay.
We haven't talked enough about the lion yet, but he's a nutty duelist.
I think it would be maybe con, lion, and curs.
Because Curz can see the future.
Oh, that's true.
That's pretty handy.
I think Angron is pretty good, but I don't think he's a great duelist.
I think Angron's strength lies in like one versus a thousand.
Yeah.
As opposed to one versus one.
He's more about cleaving large, like,
ranks of people, I think.
I mean, I don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's fucking good in combat, but...
Sure, yeah.
Well, if you were dueling Angron, and you were, like, kind of as equal, and he just kept
getting angry, wouldn't he eventually just, like, blow his...
Die because of his fucking...
Yeah, because the spikes, right?
So you just...
As long as you can, as long as you can, like, keep up with him, if it's a war of attrition,
Angron can't beat you, because he's just going to...
He's going to blow his fucking head off.
Yep.
I don't know
You know
We said not to
This wasn't going to be the con episode
But I told you that I was learning more about the con
And I was going to talk more for the con
I'm sorry
But he's so he like
And I feel like this is going to be like the
I don't want to say the problem
This is going to be like a continuing thing
Because it's like
Yeah you want to talk about the faction
But how do you talk about the faction
Without talking more about the primark
That was originally why we only did the one episode
Because of that
Yeah
Because it's like you kind of
To understand the group
You kind of have to understand the prime mark
And it's like you know
it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
That wasn't exactly the reason why,
well, I mean, that's the reason I made that,
I did that little excerpt right there
is because it shows, one,
Kahn's great duelist, but also,
two, the fact that the white scars
are not known well, and that's actually
one of their great strengths.
Right.
Because I fully believe that Kahn
could have killed Fulgrim. Absolutely.
Because Fulgrim knew nothing of the Kahn,
because he doesn't give a shit.
Because Fulgram, the only thing Fulgum cares about is himself.
And he was bros with Farris, but he's just a prick.
You can't prepare for Khan.
He couldn't properly prepare for a duel with Khan.
And Khan is just like, yeah, I've seen you fight like a billion times and all that shit you say,
I know what you're going to do.
Fuck it.
I'll kill you.
Yeah.
I mean, I like his stoic confidence.
Back to more of the White Scar stuff, though.
Often the White Scars' names themselves are, they're very much like a Mongolian culture, of course, very much like Mongolian and Turkish.
Or, is it Turkic?
Whatever.
Yeah, sure.
People from Turkey.
Yeah, the names are very much like, Kailik, Jagol, Ogil the Swift, Ulligwe, Yahu Gal.
I'm part of my butchering all of these, but Chogon, the Iron Stampede, Sahari, the Thunderhead,
Like, lots of those things.
One of the really interesting ones was
Quinzah, quinjah.
I don't remember how to say his name properly.
They definitely take a little bit of inspiration
from multiple Asian-centric areas.
Sometimes they go a little bit harder
into the Japanese stuff.
Kind of similar how you and I
learn about the night lords,
and it's not just Russia.
There's like Polish, Ukrainian.
There's a lot of, like,
a lot of other Eastern European countries
that kind of go with it.
Right.
Romanian. So they have a little bit of the back and forth there too.
Kunza was the master of the Kesheg, which is the
White Scars Terminator Elite, similar to how the
Death Shroud were the
or the Atrementar, were the Terminator elite of other groups.
The one that Shai just posted, that's the White Scars.
Oh, that's the guy right there, Kinzah, Quinzal.
I was about to ask if that's a picture of their Terminator armor.
It is kind of.
a picture of like the
the, that's the guy.
Oh, okay.
That is the Quinzaw guy, however he say his name.
I was going to say usually like the Terminator armor looks a little different,
little bulkier, a little cooler.
And I always like to see what the different faction like Terminator Armors look like,
whether it's Chaos or Imperium.
They usually look a lot more, like, tanky and different and a lot more, you know,
not cooler than the regular dudes.
They do.
I think this is 30K armor because I think he, I believe Quinzaa, whatever, I think he's
dead. But as you can tell from his armor bits though, both because of, well, maybe that's
a little much the sword. But if you look at his shoulder pads and his side, it has that kind
of multi-layered samurai armor. It totally reads samurai, yeah. Yeah. So it gets a little bit of the
other kind of variation. Because like, you know, Tao shoulder pads also have that big static singular
piece that goes along with the Japanese samurai. But that one as well works more in the,
to a sword-fighting character
because, ironically, the Tao
went the Gundam route and the
shooty route, whereas samurai
I mean, they were pretty good with bows, don't
get me wrong, but they, you know, everyone knows
of them. They're mostly known for their samurai swords
and their dueling skill and, yeah, being
excellent blade...
Running around with their katanas and nodoshis
and all that stuff.
Yep. Which, by the way,
katana is a shit to your sword compared to the
nodachi. I'm just going to say that right now.
The natashi is fucking cool.
Aren't they like six feet long and it's really hard to actually like wield one in combat?
Is that the Nogad?
They were usually, I think they were usually yord for, uh, yord, ha, used for anti-cavalry, I believe.
That makes sense because it's so long you could like stab someone off their horse without like getting in there.
Or the horse.
Or the horse, that's true.
You know.
I think I'm not, you know, unlike, unlike most Warhammer fans, I'm not as big of a history buff.
But yeah, the Odachi and Adashi were fucking huge.
Yeah.
But regardless, the white scar is obviously taking that culture and the names from Chagoras.
A sign that I actually messed up with in the last episode, I did this wrong.
When the emperor came to pick up Jagatai and all that, he had the concept that what the emperor was doing was a good idea.
It's like, and I said that that was the imperial truth, that he really liked the imperial truth.
That was wrong.
the concept of humanity
you know
doing their conquering
having them doing their stuff like he's cool with that
the imperial truth is
the idea that humanity should
conquer everything and everyone and bring
them all under the rule of the emperor in the
Imperium he did not like that
he very much hated
that actually
he thought the emperor was a big stinky liar
and kind of a piece of shit sometimes
and he had multiple talks
with Malkodore about that
and Malkudor was like
yeah
Malkador is like, yeah, it's a lie.
We're lying to everyone, but it's had a necessity.
Look what the fucks have been going on.
You know, you might see the emperor is Mr. All-Powerful Amazing Man,
but he is constantly fighting off things you can barely understand
while running in a galaxy-spanning empire while being him.
It's not as easy as it may seem.
Yeah, that's, I suppose at the time Biggie's job is not easy.
No, and that's maybe something that we don't really give him.
enough credit for because we're always like, Biggie,
look what you've done. Look how you treat Angron, you piece of shit.
You're a bad dad. Bad dad, but I can't say that
there really does need, I mean, we are right on that one. He was a piece of shit for that.
He was an awful dad. He could have prevented so,
so much bloodshed and like,
oh, geez, like every, every demon primark and every like chaos,
astardy faction, it's like all of this could have been prevented very easily.
but just not being a shit dead.
You know what have been a really good book
that may be kind of hard to write,
but it would be a,
I think would be a smart idea.
Having the emperor,
like a little backstory
about his degradation of his morals,
like perhaps really early on
fixing up Terra,
he was actually rather sympathetic,
very kind to civilians,
like all matters.
And then with time,
he had to make really rough decisions.
perhaps that decision with the Thunder Warriors
was actually weighed incredibly hard on his conscience
and it really fucked him up
and ever since then perhaps he's like
slowly become more robotic and less sympathetic
and less human
the degradation of his morality
and turning more into like a
machine would actually be
I think it would fit
it would make sense
yeah
that would be a good read though
like if the emperor actually started
out like with all of his wits and he's super kind and he's super generous and then just slowly as time
goes on it's like he just degrades into sort of the the biggie that we all know that's a bad dad
and and he doesn't like see himself as a bad dad he's just making these calculated decisions
that seem like the right thing to do with the right time and he's been he's he's had thousands
upon thousands of years of of you know mental and moral damage and at some point
he's just becomes kind of a hollow shell.
We have not read Master of Mankind.
That might make it easier.
They might do some more stuff like that.
Ooh, it's written by Dembsky Bowden.
Let's go.
Maybe I do need to read it.
I've not read that yet.
I was going to say maybe after the Night Lords
and after the fun book,
maybe we have our next contender, eh?
I mean, after the Night Lord's books,
we got to read Kai, Kai, Kai, Kifis Kane, Hero of the Imperium.
So we'll see.
Anyway, on a side note, back to the con stuff, there's actually a nice quote that I think amplifies also the saving people aspect of the white scars that I was mentioning earlier.
So it was something about the, about them fighting together to stop Horace.
I think this is where this context comes from.
Okay.
I might be wrong in the time frame, but the point still stands.
It says, quote, I anticipated slaughter long ago, said,
Dorn, and I regret that his chain of events come to pass, but we cannot respond to whatever
provocation Horace presents to us.
We cannot let ourselves be lured out.
We cannot follow his plan.
We will make ourselves weak.
Then all is lost.
Since when was saving mankind from the darkness a sign of weakness, said the Khan.
Sanguineas, my brother and comrade.
What do you see?
Lend me your foresight.
Sanguinius shut his eyes.
Like that, he appeared drawn and tired.
A funerary moment, monument to himself.
Doren suppressed a shudder.
My sight is not so clear as fathers, said Senguinius.
The future is ever in flux.
Only some events, he paused, finding the words hard to say.
Only some events are certain.
Do you see me?
What will be the consequences of inaction?
I see fire and blood and a world laid waste if you do not act.
And if I act, said the con.
Senguinius opened his eyes to look at him.
There is a grave risk to you, a confrontation unlooked for,
and if you survive, a flight from one danger will into greater peril.
Who will I face?
I cannot divine.
Will I save lives?
Sanguinius nodded, many.
That is what I was made for, said the con.
I will ride out.
And then he leaves.
That's really cool.
It's like, well, I, like, shit's going to get really bad.
Like, you know, three primarcs are going to die.
Myself, Ferris, and Horace.
It's like, but will I save many lives?
Yes.
My decision is final.
I'm gone.
Damn.
That's a heroic quote.
That should be like, hey, do you want to know what the con stands for?
That.
Because that's big.
And what the white scars stand for.
Yeah.
It's strange that the dudes flying on Mach 5 on motorbikes laughing their asses off as they cleave aliens and people alike.
And then they're like, no, please.
women and children into the shuttles first.
Come on, come on.
Damn, I guess I didn't realize how much
they cared about like saving civilians
and saving like people and just
being upstanding like that.
Because like you said, like when you think of the
white scars and zooming around
laughing and killing, it's like, okay,
like they're just in it for the blood thrill
and they don't really fucking care.
But nope.
No, they're noble.
You think that they're the savage Mongolians.
Do you think they're the Gangus Kong era people?
But they're really not.
They also have really little regard for the ecclesiarchy and the Imperial Creed.
They think the whole emperor as a god is a whole bunch of mega horse shit,
which makes them...
And they'd be right.
Which makes them, as the kids like to say, pretty based.
Oh, my God.
I thought you were going to say pretty woke, but yeah, I guess they are pretty based.
Sure.
And you could do woke.
to, whatever. You could, yeah.
Cringe detected.
Oh, God.
No, they believe they are white-pilled and based.
No.
They actually believe that the destruction of all the enemies of the Imperium
is actually instead to help prepare the emperner,
what the fuck am I up to today?
Prepare the emperor.
Your empanadas is with the brought.
Dude, empanadas are killer.
They love empanadas.
Oh, God.
Don't put him in front of me, though, because I like the whole fucking plate.
Same.
But anyway, they're going to go ahead and destroy all the enemies in the Imperium
so that when the emperor will eventually one day rise from the golden throne and reunite the galaxy.
That's kind of their mentality is that one day he's going to, one day he's just going to decide,
you know what, being crippled is cringe, and he's just going to stand up.
Yep, being crippled is so cringe.
I'm just going to stand my skeleton ass up off this throne
and let's get down to business.
Yeah, sure.
Also, the couple of things interesting about their armor
is that the lightning bolt on their armor
is actually has a dual purpose.
It's both to signify the speed of their tactics,
the lightning bolt means go fast.
Yeah, yeah.
And also it honoring the scars that they wear on their faces.
So because they have all of their facial scarring, it kind of adds that.
The lightning bolt often on their helmet is to signify that they actually have the scar beneath their helmet.
It also is to pay homage to the stormers.
So another interesting thing that not people know, many people know is that white scars are actually pretty down with the psychers.
Oh, really?
they have they were instrumental in establishing the librariansius remember him i think it was sanguineus and magnus
that's right they were i forgot all i just assumed devery astorne's fucking hated psychers
no like rule eaters do night lords aren't a fan either
mortarian definitely not but not all of them no
the white scars psychers are actually they're very interesting
because they all have their own style.
Like, salamander, psychers do have, like, firepowers and stuff,
which is kind of cool.
They have, like, fireballs and shit.
That is good.
They've got a really cool ability called Drake Skin,
where they, like, create this, like, layered dragon protection over their bodies.
It's fucking nemo.
Oh, they're, like, D&D mages.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, psychers are just mages.
They're just wizards in a sense.
But they are a lot bigger into, like, blasts of wind and storms.
often storm psychers are more for space wolves
which are you know
Spacewolves don't think psychers exist or something
It's really funny
Well Space Wolf just hate psychers and magic in general
Because Lehman Rush is a big dumb jock
That just wants to punch people in the face right?
It's a bit of a
It's a short version of events
But you got the right idea
Okay cool
The general
Until you flesh it out
when we eventually do Space Wolves, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll go with that.
But the White Scar Cychrist are known as the Storm Sears.
They have, like, giant gusts of wind energy.
They create, like, tornadoes and huge hurricanes and shit.
Like, the really powerful stuff.
Often, they'll just go up to someone and just fucking backblast them,
like a right-click from a pyro and Team Forgers 2.
Or sometimes they'll even do that to their own troops, which is great.
Oh, to make it go fast?
I think they have a psychic power in game that gives them plus two to all their advance in charge roles, which is
Since they can advance in charge is like a huge deal
They go to their-
So they just traverse the whole map just by casting the spell on someone? I'm just imagining like a jet bike flying in the air and
And he turns around like, give me a push on goal McCog or whatever and then the storm steer goes
Well, bam and he's like
40 front flips into the enemy
He's like laughing
be great
that's terrifying
to see a jet bike
just like
you thought I was going fast
before
hit the extra jump jet
and the guy just
like flips him forward
with a spell and
you'll never catch me
mortarian
not when I switch
into maximum overdrive
you don't get that reference
because it's a sponge bob
yeah sorry
I don't watch SpongeBob
I was gonna
I was gonna say
you could do a fast and furious thing
where you know
he kicks in the gnaws
and family.
Backwood Fast and Furious was about racing.
Oh, that's right.
You imagine it's like a white scar Marine.
He's sitting on like the swings at a playground.
And he's like, push me, Ogle.
And he hits him.
He just like goes around like does 360s five times
until he gets stuck on the swings.
It's like, yeah, let's go.
I didn't even imagine him getting hit.
I just imagine like a little white scar child
and then like a storm sear behind him.
It's like, daddy, push me.
And he like literally cast like a fucking tornado
that just sends the kid flying like the chains on the swing break and he just sends him flying like across the fucking
I don't know he sends him like a mile away and all the other white scars are like yeah
the other white scars like first one to go pick up oh shag wins and they all start sprinting
yeah it's a race to go pick up the kid yeah um actually that's interesting speaking of things that
are slow uh did you know that the white scars I might have this wrong they either don't have any
Or they absolutely disdain dreadnots.
Really?
They detest dreadnots.
They believe that when a warrior...
Well, when a warrior dies,
their soul should be freely traveling the afterlife,
and it should not be confined.
It should float on like the planes of the afterlife or whatever.
So I don't know if they have zero dreadnots,
because obviously you can take White Scars dreadnots in the game,
and I feel it would be kind of weird if that was the case.
But if they do have dreadnoughts,
they have like a teeny, teeny, tiny amounts.
They detest the use of dreadnoughts.
I guess if their philosophy is, yeah,
the soul should roam free on death.
Yeah, I guess they probably would be pretty not big fans of dreadnots.
I guess dreadnots would be pretty, uh, pre-cringe.
Am I right for?
It's pretty cringe.
Yeah, cringe detected.
Uh, with dreadnots.
We know, we know.
We know of one dreadnought and his name is Malcarian and he is not a happy man.
No, he is not. He only woke up because he heard bolterfire.
Bolter fire.
What a Chad. What a guy. What a guy.
Yeah, I guess because GW says that they're, yeah, GW has official white scar dreads.
So I guess that perhaps if the warrior's final wish is to still be in a dreadnought and still serve, then I guess that's, you know, they probably wouldn't,
tell him no.
But, yeah, they do not like dreadnoughts, though.
They're ugly-looking, it looks like a fucking egg.
That's called the contemptor.
That's called the contemptor dreadnought.
It is also known as...
I was like, their dreadnought is Humpty-dumpty.
Like, what the fuck?
It's because of the white paint.
And it's also really, like, rounded everywhere, and it's just...
Because most dreadnots are, like, big old fucking rectangles with feet.
but this one is just so rounded and weird looking.
Dude, could you imagine if they put a guy in a dreadnop,
but they replaced his legs with like tires?
Man, that's what they should have done.
So it's kind of like a monster truck.
Exactly.
Like I was imagining like, what is it?
Is it the Lord of Skulls that's on like the tank bottom?
Yeah, yeah.
Like do that except with like these big old monster truck wheels
and you put that thing on top of it.
and just goes mock speed, everybody would want to be a dreadnought.
Go fast, even in death, right?
Oh, it'd be great.
Even in death, the speed force will not stop me.
My name is Jagatai Khan.
I'm the fastest man alive.
That'd be great.
Oh, shit, what is that?
That's someone's kipash of a dreadnought with wheels.
See, you do something like that for a white skirt.
It's like, oh, hey, maybe these dreadnots sounds so bad.
Yeah.
It's true.
It's very true.
It's also interesting because the white scars,
I think they're actually a lot more keen on killing Xenos
than they are keen on killing other imperial or chaos-based people.
I'm trying to remember why.
Because that was the one thing...
If they were chaos traitors, I mean,
maybe because it's like, oh, you were once our brother
and we don't really want to kill you,
and we're such nice people,
but Zeno's scum can get fucked,
and they were never good, and they're always awful.
maybe?
I mean, they really like killing orcs.
I know that.
I know they really like killing orcs.
They're a big fan of that.
Is there any specific reason
just because they're a difficult enemy
or it's fun to fight them or
they just like killing or...
I actually don't really know.
That's a great question.
Dang it, it's simultaneously difficult
to do research on the white scars
because they don't like to be known very well.
we'll just say it's because they can run over lots of orcs
there is a story about the con fighting orcs if you want to hear that story
of course I do
of course you do
of course I do
they're doing this big fight against its large orc group
and it was
I think it was a part of the main
primark book
called the Warhawk of Chagoras
so if you really want to read that book I guess spoilers
but
So him, he was making, I haven't read it myself, but he was on his way to go fight a bunch of orcs and there's big orcdialia, whatever.
And one of his, I think his first, like, con guys, a close friend, someone important, this guy named Giahun, I think it says his name.
He died.
A war boss killed him and he hit magma, lava, and his power pack exploded igniting into a big bubble of flame.
and everyone kind of stopped
like all the white scars just halted
like with other disbelief that this guy is dead
and even the orcs kind of were like
what was going on was ozog
and the primark
I guess they had a big thing
raging amount of love and everything around them
and the primark
con kind of looked and he said two words
he said pull away
and all of the white scars
and the lunewals they were fighting with
withdrew backwards.
And then the con changed his demeanor
to a, from like a big kind of flamboyance.
I don't want to use the word flamboyance
because that's fulgroom,
but a more like flamboyant fighting style to a,
quote unquote,
nightseer menace.
And it says he swung his sword about him languidly,
loosening up,
cutting the air into whispers,
and the orcs themselves hung back.
Bellows snuffed out,
bravado shaken into wariness.
And then he started to run.
And then he started to accelerate faster and faster and faster.
And he started to swing his sword in a speed that was like barely registering to even the Astardis naked, the Astardy's eyes.
Oh.
And it says, under the gathering shot of elemental vendetta, it says he killed them all.
If he had slain freely before and now the carnage was so complete that it scraped the boundaries of both the divine and the diabolite.
Even the war-hardened Astardis used to witnessing prodigal exercises of violence were completely silenced by it
The orcs never laid a claw on him
He so singled single man
Dance through giant hordes of orcs
Slaughtering them consistently as the screams of the orcs would start to
Be like transmitted over the
Ways whatever the help
Yeah the boxcasters or whatever
One of the Luna wolves wanted to try to join him, and then the,
and then the Quinzog-Keshay guy was like, no, only observe.
It says, the con was almost invisible, hidden behind a curtain of severed flesh and thrown blood.
A primordial force burning through the Zenos ranks, invalible and darkly magnificent.
For the first time in the campaign, the green skin started to run,
to scramble away from the devil that tried to devour them,
and as they turned cowering in the shadows
with their backs carved open and necks broken
they cowered into the building
in which then the con entered the building
and kept going
and none of his armies followed him
all that emerged in the far side of the gate
were alien screams
one after the other overlapping and smothering
a chorus of terror and panic
that went on and on and on
and never relented
and after a while became impossible to listen to.
Oh my God.
The dudes, the dudes like, forgive me, master.
I have to go all out one last time.
Whoa.
To make the orcs turn their backs and flee in terror,
that's a, that's, wow.
He's a good swordsman.
I think you would have bought him.
He may not body Fulgroom, but he would have hurt Fulgram.
Yeah, I think he would have fucked Fulgram.
If he went all out against Fulgram, I don't, oh boy, yeah.
When you said top three, yep, mm-hmm, agreed.
Though comically, when you first said that, for some reason I just pictured like the BART meme
where he's like, I'm going to throw my fist in the air like this.
If you get hit, it's your own fault.
And he's just walking forward like that.
That's, I don't know why I picked.
Just little Barton like some Astardy's power armor with a sword.
I like the idea of Lisa.
He's like, he's so, oh, Jagatai, so predictable.
Going to use his jet bike for the battle.
Good old jet bike never fails.
There's actually a little bit of a discussion after that part too, where the con,
for a while, after the battle, the Khan kind of sat down with the leader of the Kesheg, the
Kwan Zagai.
Yeah.
For a while they didn't say much.
But then the Khan said, it was weakness, he said at last.
Like, no one says it, Quinn Zah replied, calm as ever.
I've lost warriors before, but he was with us at the start.
It had to happen sooner or later.
Did it?
Nothing is eternal.
Some things are a good blade, the wind on skin, an oath.
The con let slip a crooked smile.
Just what would make you angry then, Zah?
He asked, if you became insubral.
some way, like other men, the master of the Kesheg said, if you had seen him die and not done what
you did, if you would let one of them, just one, live, then Kagan, I would have been angry.
Wow.
So it's like, yeah, you did the right thing there, Khan.
If you let a single orc leave, I would have been like, wow, you a bitch.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, that's, to be expected of the Khan and the white scar.
you know, so...
This was just con episode 2.0.
Yeah, 2.0.
That... God, that's a...
That's so crazy.
Like, to go through that many orcs like that is fucking wild.
Holy shit.
It's pretty cool.
The white scars are some badass, dastardly ass dudes, and they are really, really cool.
I am very pleased with how they've come out.
as knowledge has
resurfaced
and as I've learned more about them
it's pretty cool
I love them quite a bit now
they might not still have my favorite
lesion or anything but they're
I have a lot of respect for the white scars
especially people who are like die hard
white scars fans
because I see a lot of people playing white scars
because they're strong in like a meta
I don't really see
a lot of like die hard
live and die white scar guys
with tons of speeders, bikes, and, like, librarians.
Yeah.
So I am very pleased with them.
I don't have anything else.
I didn't want to go too long for this episode.
I wanted to just talk about some cool shit I found
and some cool white scars stuff.
I'm sure there's more,
but if there's diehard white scars fans that know more,
well, you know what, you keep it to yourself
because the white scars would do the same.
Or you can leave it in the comments,
and we won't read it.
And I won't read it anyway.
Shy might, though.
Shy might, she might.
But if it's a bad one, you might end up as a meme on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on.
Yeah, for a night we about to get down.
Yeah, you're probably gonna get fucked anyway, so yeah, yeah, true.
Anyway.
Anyway, I this, any questions on the white scars, D.K.
So no questions, but I.
I. I was surprised because, because, because, like, we were.
were saying it's like, oh yeah, they're kind of like Mongolians. So I was like, oh, you know,
Gangus Khan, they're probably all fucking brute savages and, oh, they're laughing as they're
slaughtering. It's kind of cool to find out that they're all about, you know, they're really
cultured, uh, they do calligraphy, they do painting, they do philosophy. They're all about
protecting the civilians. It's kind of cool to have like your, um, your perception of,
of a Legion just totally one-aided from what you expect and find out they're actually pretty good,
they're pretty good guys. All right. Well, that seems to end our episode.
Thank you everyone so much for watching.
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DK.
Where can they find you?
And what are you playing?
DK. Diamanties everywhere except Instagram,
Twitch.com.
Twitch.com.
What am I playing?
I've been playing the back for Blood Beta a little bit.
That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think it's over by the time this video goes up though.
Shai, what is that?
Oh, that's the laughing guy with the- It's the Kek-W meme. What do you find that?
Jagatai Kek!
No!
Jagatai Kek!
No, TK-K-that's supposed to be my thing!
No, you can find Shai-Quite, Quiet, Shai, Chalk.
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