Adeptus Ridiculous - YNNARI: IT'S SIMPLE, WE KILL SLAANESH | Warhammer 40k Lore
Episode Date: May 22, 2024https://www.patreon.com/AdeptusRidiculoushttps://www.adeptusridiculous.com/https://twitter.com/AdRidiculoushttps://orchideight.com/collections/adeptus-ridiculousThe Ynnari, also known as "the Reb...orn," are a kindred or religious sect of the Aeldari species comprised of members drawn from all of its other major kindreds, including the Asuryani, Aeldari Corsairs, Exodites, the Drukhari and the Harlequins.Under the leadership of the prophet Yvraine, the "Daughter of Shades," the Ynnari seek to fully awaken the Aeldari god of the dead Ynnead, who they believe can defeat Slaanesh and restore the Aeldari species' unity and its lost glory.Support the show
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dot com it's in the description it's great stuff speaking of of of things that don't matter in the
grand scheme of of the world please don't say me please don't say me oh good yeah no i'm not i'm not
that's shyest job oh you're right that's i'm not you know i don't i don't need to go that hard
that's true that's true yeah um but uh today
is an episode. So,
DK,
I wish I,
I wish I had like a real quote.
I mean,
I'm,
shy might have a solid quote for this one,
but I'm not going to lie.
This is one of those episodes that like,
here's an interesting topic we can chat about.
There's not a lot on it,
but it's their stuff.
So you're going to give me a quote that you made up
and I'm going to have to maybe try and guess what the hell we're doing?
Sure.
Here's my, here's my quote, okay?
Oh, boy.
All right.
Damn.
Talk about wasted potential, unquote.
Damn, talk about wasted potential, he says.
Or, or better or better yet.
Better yet.
Quote, come on.
Do something.
Poked with stick, unquote.
Oh, man, that could be so many things in 40K.
could be so many factions.
The only quote that there actually is is the whispering God gives new life just as he takes it
away.
But if I told you who said that quote, you would know what it is.
I was going to say, I don't know that I know.
Have we ever talked about this whispering God before, at least?
We have.
We've touched on this a few times, but I don't think we've ever done a dedicated episode
on it.
And if we have, it's been so long.
Uh, whispering God makes me think of some, of, of one of those, uh, quirky, uh, Eldari gods.
You know, like how, how Kegarak is like the, the laughing god and stuff. Um, so a part of me is thinking it's some weird Eldari thing with the craft world Eldar and some nonsense that they're doing.
I mean, that's a...
That's a pretty good concept.
I'll give you a little bit of like,
that's not a bad idea you got going on there.
Okay, okay, not the right one,
but, you know, what were we really expecting?
You know, hey, as long as I'm on a track
that doesn't lead to destruction, you know, we're okay.
Well, speaking of a track leading to disruption,
I mean, I think you're close enough.
Like, hell yeah.
It's an Eldar episode today.
Do you remember what the Eldar god of death might be?
Oh, boy.
There's so many like Yvrain, Yonari, Yenich names that I can't remember what their name is,
but I do vaguely kind of remember there being an Eldari god of death.
and they like Eldari God of death a little bit because like it makes your soul go into the something or another and it's not like a super slaneshi like whoops you just got into the warp.
You know, it's close enough. I mean, you're mostly right. I mean, I'm not going to give you full credit because like this is just one of those situations where there's not really enough to create a proper quote. But yeah, I mean, we talked about the Yanari here in
there, but I don't think we ever did a full episode on the Yanari. So we're going to talk about the
max 30 minutes of lore that the Yanari currently have and how genuinely fascinating it is and how
they have sat on their hands with it for the past like seven years. I mean, that is very
GW pilled though, right? Like there are so many interesting factions that everybody's like,
wow, this is such a cool thing.
This would make you so much money if you updated it and they just kind of sit on it.
And they just don't do anything with it because, well, why should we do anything with it when everyone is happy to buy Space Marine variation number 874, right?
Wow, we've done it.
We have officially made DK a doomer.
Excellent.
I'm sorry.
Even I can see the trend, man.
You're truly a Game's Works or you're truly a Warhammer fan when you understand the shenanigans of James Workshop.
Ah, good old James Workshop.
What a time.
Love, no, not love.
I don't know.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry.
It's complicated.
Relations and status, complicated.
Yanari is from third edition?
Holy.
Okay, so I get, okay, so that's not quite fair.
Yonari arrived from third edition, but they did do something with it when we,
we got to fall of Acadia and all that jazz.
But since then they've done basically nothing with it.
Okay.
So they were, they were, they came out in third edition, but at least in third edition,
they did something with them.
And then they just proceeded to be like, you don't exist.
There's a, there's a lot of interesting stuff.
So, so anyway, so the Anari, right?
Let's, let's roll back a concept.
Let's do a little bit of a, oh yeah, it is kind of the other way around.
Shai's right.
But like to set the stage.
So Eldar, right?
You know, yeah.
Classic meme, they murder Banga Gone to existence, yada, yada, all the jokes, et cetera.
Yep.
The main goal of the Eldari is obvious.
Save their souls from Slanesh.
Slenish, yeah.
It'd be nice that they could get rid of Slanesh, but that's probably not going to happen.
Right.
But like, you know, getting rid of Slanesh is a big, also, it solves the same purpose, right?
Save our souls.
Yep.
They are big time.
They're, you know, they're xenoc Christians, right?
Save my soul.
Save my soul.
I got to say, I got to purify my soul.
And of all of the factions,
out of all the factions that should be known as Christians,
it was definitely not the Eldar.
Humanity has got that going, but it's fine.
No, no, no.
Humanity is something totally different.
Anywho.
So Eldred.
Eldred.
Othrin
The hell is this?
Mr. Eldrad
with the Eldrip, right?
Is that him?
No, you're thinking of Drizar with a Drizip.
Oh, well, he can have the El
drip, though, too.
Like, I'm sure he's got some
good armor, right?
I mean, there he is.
He's a little dripped.
Yeah, he's got the fur cloak.
Yeah, he's got fur coat.
I mean, if you have a fur coat, you're automatically
dripped.
Oh, yeah.
We're L dripped.
Let's go.
Eldred, basically, you know,
he's one of the major,
I think he's a farcier,
um, guys in
all of the...
Her his binoculars.
Shut up.
I'd slap you upside the head.
Like that Batman comic.
I was like, I don't care if he's talking about something important.
I'm interrupting him for this one because I have to.
It's my job.
The Batman comic just like backhand you.
But so he's out there trying to figure out a way to deal with Slanesh.
And so he was eventually kind of communing with the Infinity Circuit in the craft world.
And he was like, damn, what the hell?
I'm kind of like feeling this weird confluence of soul energy in the infinity circuit.
It's like the lingering dead were kind of blending together in this like big slumbering like soul in a weird way.
Like they were in there for so long they're starting to kind of come together.
And when, because he's a farceeer, he's a he's a cyker and all.
I mean, all are cygars, but they're super.
Super psychers, yeah.
They tread the path of the cyker.
He was like, holy hell, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Let me get these binoculars out.
He looked really deep into there.
And he's like, wait.
In this like heartbeat of the dead, he can see sees the slumbering Eldar god.
The essence of the god of the dead.
And this is the god you need.
There's a lot of Eldar gods out there.
And it's a whole, actually wouldn't be a bad episode as all the Eldar gods.
You need to learn about them, right?
you need to figure it out.
You need to see him.
Minus two.
Oh, come on.
That was pretty good.
No, puns are required to get minus two.
I made a lot of great puns in my time and my chat will always minus two me for it.
Well, okay.
I've heard a couple of your puns.
I don't know if you're getting minus two because it's a pun or because it's like a bad pun, you know?
But my pun, good stuff.
That's like a plus four.
You need to, like, come on.
Minus two.
Come on.
Plus zero.
Okay.
Anyway, anyway.
Yeah, also, a great point, Shai.
The sign of the phoenix that represents you need,
the symbol of infinite and, you know, it's a phoenix rising from the ash.
It's not, in a game's workshop, you know.
Oh, that's a cool logo, though.
To be fair, that is a righteous logo with the phoenix kind of rising up into the infinity.
Because a phoenix is infinite.
That's great.
And it also rises from the ashes of the dead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
all the usual stuff.
It's very on the nose,
but it doesn't look cool,
so I'm okay with it.
Yeah, I'll,
I'll,
yeah,
I'll give them a pass.
So,
Eldred,
kind of,
because originally,
every Eldar believed,
like, okay,
the only way to truly
defeat Slanesh
is if we all die.
And if we all die,
we enter the infinity circuit,
and we're,
we're all of our essences
together can form
into our giant gesta
consciousness,
which is kind of like a god,
and then we strike down Slanesh.
But that's,
a theory and killing your entire race
is not a great way to test theories.
Normally hypotheses need to be a little bit more
you know,
test you to salt the taste.
Experiment the hypothesis before you
confirm it and then before you run the test
that kills your entire population.
Right. And so instead though,
Eldrad kind of saw this as a new concept instead.
And yes, in the big DAC
we kind of realize like how Eldar feel about
dying. It's horrifying. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because they don't want to go to Slanesh.
Dying is like the worst, especially if you don't have a soulstone like the Drukari.
Right? They don't have soulstones?
They don't believe they do. I believe they utilize like the thumb that they gave the homunculus to
regrow them in a vat. Yeah, yeah, which would make sense as to why they have to do all the
torture, the suffering, the arena games, the, and all that because, you know, we don't have a
soul stone. If we die, it's.
Yum, yum, Slanesh.
There we go.
Right, oh yeah, they can't attune to the Soulstone very well
because of their level of depravity
and because Slanesh has like the pinky finger on them.
Mm-hmm, gotcha.
But anyway, so Eldred figured this whole thing out
and he was like, wait a minute,
I could maybe do this without having to kill our entire race.
So I'm going to go do this big old ritual,
bring in like, connect all of the infinity circuits
from all the craft worlds together
and do this huge ritual possibly to using the power of the dead to summon you need this way.
Now, naturally, though, when a large contingent of Eldar are amassing for a great ritual,
the humanity is like, brother, I ain't letting that happen.
What's going on?
Also, how many craft worlds are there?
Are there a lot of them?
Because there's...
As many as the writers need to have.
one of those situations
because I was gonna say like when
when Slynesh is born
and a bunch of Eldari die
not every Eldar could get away
on a craft world it was just the ones that were like
yo we've gotten a little depraved
let's get the fuck out of here
so I was like are there like
hundreds of them are there thousands of them
are there four like
I don't yeah so I was more than
four how many like in
infinity circuits are like just rolling around
it's just apparently by
author's choice and authors need?
If I had to, I would assume it would be in the high hundreds, 2000s.
But Eldar are also one of the smallest general factions in the table, or like in 40K.
Yeah.
Because, you know, a thousand craft worlds is nothing when it compares to the Apperium's
million worlds.
Million worlds, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or that kind of deal.
But, you know, most likely enough to have as many as you like when it comes down to
writing and allowing players to create their own craft worlds, but not an, like, an insane amount
to the point where it's, uh, you know, right. That's true. They're still small. Yeah, like shy said,
it's left open for meta reasons because players can make up their own craft worlds for custom
armies. That's true. Yep. You probably don't want to specifically say, there's a thousand. It's like,
well, shit. Yeah, you kind of put something in a corner, right? Yeah, yeah. It's easier when you're
like, all the Drukari are in Kamara. Like, what's Kamara like? I don't know. It's enormous and giant and
crazy and weird because it's in the webway.
And so it's like,
all right.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Anyway,
the death watch realized what Eldrae was doing
and eventually put a stop to him.
Screwed up his whole,
I'm paraphrasing a lot here because Eldred's part is the least important part of this.
Screwed up.
Ritual was super close to completion,
but it went totally haywire.
The psychic power went all,
all wacky,
and eventually Eldra had to flee.
But he was able to,
summon a tincty little bit of the God of death you needs divine consciousness and he went
and then shot it through space.
It's a tiny little bit.
He did what?
He, what did he do?
Beow!
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
So that, now, now you imagine right now, this is like the opening of your, imagine, like,
you got your movie, right?
This is the opening of your movie.
It's that crazy, like, stirring events.
Like, oh, the Rachel's going, hey, why are we got to get out of here?
And then you see like the, like, no, we just barely sent out a little bit.
And then you cut to the next character.
So imagine it like that.
I'm trying to set a stage.
So it's kind of like, it's kind of like the animated Hercules where Hercules gets stolen.
And it's like, oh, we're going to dip him in the thing.
Or we're going to give him the potion.
It's like, uh-oh, we didn't get all of the potion.
He still got his strength.
roll opening credits and then you go to him being like a teenager.
You know,
I don't know why my mind thought of this first and I really hate that it did.
I was thinking of Man of Steel,
the Superman movie,
where it opens with like all the cryptonians like in that giant war and stuff.
And then it shoots over and then it's like Clark Kent as just like a regular ass dude.
You know,
I still haven't seen Superman stuff.
You know,
You know, out of all of the DC movies, like, that one is perfectly fine.
I don't hate it.
I don't love it, but I don't hate it.
Is that the one where everybody got mad?
Because at the end, Superman is having his battle with, what is it, General Zod?
And they're just wanton destruction everywhere.
Buildings are being destroyed.
Everybody's like, Superman wouldn't, like, get into a battle that leveled the city and killed people.
That, I believe is the one.
Okay.
Gotcha. Don't, don't worry about it.
Okay.
Don't worry about it.
Okay.
Anyway.
So, anyway, Eldrad. Eldrad, phew!
Right. So, so, phew!
So, we move over to Yvrain.
Yvrain, Yvrain is, um, I'm not, I'm not sure this is intentional, but Yvrain has, like, uh, been around, seen a lot of shit, kind of, like, diner girl vibes.
I don't, so hear me out.
All right, hear me out.
All right, I'm listening.
I'm listening.
Imagine you got your Midwestern movie or something, right?
All right, more movie references.
Let's call.
No, I'm just like, I'm saying a stage here.
I'm not, no specific movie.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
And then I go ahead and like, you cut to like the diner and it's the, the waitress.
And the waitress there, you know, right now she's really just not down on her luck.
But this waitress, she used to like,
try to work in Hollywood as an actress and then she had no money so she spent some time as like
a prostitute and then she worked for a fancy firm and met a nice guy but then the guy cheating on
her it's awful so now she's like mid 30s just really trying to get her life back together but right
now she's kind of stuck in this bum fuck town as like a diner waitress oh i cannot name a
specific movie where that happens but like i feel like i've seen that trope everywhere sure
Yeah.
Yvrain is like the Eldar version of that.
She,
she's been like kind of everywhere.
I think she was,
I think she was born in a craft worlder.
I don't remember if she spent some time with the exodites or not.
I don't quite remember.
But then she walked one of the paths.
And then she moved on to join like a troop, I think.
And then she is now one of the succubi in,
in Kamara as a Drukari witch cult leader.
Oh, really?
Your brain is?
Oh, okay.
She's been around, man.
She's been around.
Which one is Gilamon's hot Eldar wife that literally there's no...
This is the one.
That's her.
Okay.
I thought that was her.
I was like, wow, she's in Kamara now?
Well, Bobby G must be very upset about that.
He must be super just...
It's, I don't know if your wife just turned to chaos.
She's not his wife yet.
Oh, sorry.
My guy, we're leading up to those things.
Also, okay, fine.
Also, I cannot believe, I'm going to have to say this one more time just for the sake of it.
Gilliman very much just watchful eye, side eye tolerates your brain.
And there's nothing more than that.
And everybody's just like, Dave, fucking.
You're everybody.
You're part of the system.
You've created the system.
I do it for the memes.
I don't actually believe it.
I think it's funny.
Batman.
Backhand.
I'm getting beat up today, y'all.
Sheesh.
So Yvraine is in Kamaraj.
She is a succubis, which is like a suit, you know, that's the high, that's the high rank in.
Big deal.
Yeah, big, big deal.
Big deal, yeah.
She was having a grand old battle in one of the crucibles, which, which called like gladiatorial arenas.
And she was going to be fighting Lilith Hesperax, which is like...
Oh, it's a book lady.
The new book lady.
Yeah, yeah, she's going to have a book.
Yeah, and it's got the really cool special edition cover that I'm going to buy literally just to display.
You know what?
I actually might do the same.
I don't normally like buy the physical copy, but it is a Mike Brooks book and he has yet to miss.
So...
Yeah, I just need to figure out where to pre-order that thing because I'm sure it's going to sell out like that.
Yeah, they do that kind of.
Yeah, the scalpers are assholes.
And Gary's workshop, man, doesn't give a shit.
But anyway, she's fighting Lilith.
Yvraine that night crazy-ass gladiatorial arena.
She fought witches, incubi even.
She fought and killed a captured tyrant, which is fucking wild to me.
Really?
Just the fact that they caught a hive tyrant kind of, you.
You know, that's pretty impressive, but like willingly fighting and she beats it?
I, dude, like, the Dracari, they love this stuff.
They cap, the dreadnought sized here and it, they just like grabbed.
Okay, cool, cool.
Hey, I mean, I'm sure it was a very badass moment and really shows you how much of a badass
she is.
So cool.
I guess.
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, then,
40K would make a great anime.
Dude, it's,
this is a little bit of a,
I won't lie,
this whole thing is a little bit of anime story.
Anyway,
she fights,
kills this hive tyrant,
crazy stuff.
She,
um,
dualed Lelith,
but after this,
she was already super tired
and,
and,
and,
and,
and,
and,
really body her,
but definitely,
up beat her,
left her very much
injured and slowly dying,
mortally wounded,
outclass,
etc.
Mm-hmm.
But then,
she had a fight with this weird priestess lady,
the priestess of Morai Heg.
A Moorai Heg is known as the
Crone goddess.
It's an Eldar goddess.
The icon of a long-dead goddess.
We're assuming probably die with Sle-Nesh,
but it's not important.
Makes sense.
Now, strange garb.
It's a very specific priestess type person
and ceremonial garb of a bealtan.
Sorry.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's from Beelte.
I think Yvraine was a Beelten craft worthy, if I'm not mistaken.
Okay.
All right.
It's the green ones.
So she fought this priestess and stuff and then, whoa, damn, flash from the thing before.
That giant you need fracture, basically landed dead in the center of Comerog right as Yvrain was, like, killed in battle with this priestess.
Oh wow, that's very convenient
That the
Piu just happens to hit right as she
You know
I mean I
You know
I'm sure it's not just luck
I'm sure there's a little bit of that
But it was right as she was on
That threshold of life and death
Man it's so anime dude
Like I
I mean I love it
Because I'm a giant weed
But this is so anime brother
It's anime backstory times a billion
It's really, it's really something.
But it's fun, right?
Yeah, it's fun.
You know, she gets this big power of you need, of the consciousness of you need, just slammed into her between life and death and imbued with this massive amount of power.
And because of that, it kind of like attracted the gays of you need the God of death because, you know, maybe because she was between the life and death, maybe because she walked so many different lives and so many different.
paths, all that kind of in-between type stuff.
Who knows? Who knows?
Sure. But regardless, she then was in view with the power of a god in a way,
not like a full god, but quite a bit.
Like a demigod.
Like a little bit of that, but like, you know, it wasn't like the god itself was,
was there. It was just like, oh, the power.
It's not like she's like immortal and, you know, raining on high.
She's just like, oh, hey, I'm, you know, do not, do not puck with me.
I will kill you.
And because of that, there was this giant blast of insane power coming out in the crucible.
And that led to Al-Jukari being like, what the hell?
I imagine it would be a little surprising, sure.
It caused some double-up issues, though, because this blast of power also resulted in maybe a slight demonic invasion breach in the webway in, in, in,
Cameroon, which, as we've learned from the big DACA is really bad.
Yeah, you don't want that.
The Drukari do not want warp entities and warp portals being opened up in their space.
More demons means more attention from Slinash, which means, yikes, we gotta go.
So this led to, again, as you say, very anime, massive rioting and problems in Kamaraa.
and this led to Yvrain attempting to get out of her situation she's currently in,
you know, killing her way through the rioting streets of Kamaraa and meeting up with this
weirdo swordsman person known as the Vizark, which we don't really need to talk about too much,
even though he's kind of a baller.
He's like a mass like quiet, just like he's a little bit of your Ronan type in a way, you know,
helping out Yvrain.
it just
I'm just like man
this is absolutely
holy shit
she meets the quiet
swordsman
like damn
and she must have gone through Kamro
like a hot knife through butter
now that she's like
demigod status
like ain't nobody stopping her
she probably just
cleaved her way through that shit
I'm not gonna lie
it's very much a
oh how do you
how do you say it is definitely
like the kind of anime
type thing.
But also, I mean, her being a succubist,
especially with all that power,
it definitely goes along with it.
But this is the book.
Like this whole area,
this is the book.
The Yannari book,
I believe it's called Ghost Warrior.
I'm pretty positive.
Like that title.
Love that title.
Wait, no,
it might not be Ghost Warrior.
Is it?
Oh, crap.
Is it Ghost Warrior?
It's the Rise Yunari one.
Or is it,
Is it a
I don't remember
The Vizark is the dude
Yeah Vizark is the do in the left
Obviously
Yeah yeah
Is that like you need in the back
Like a like a portrayal of her?
So kind of
So we'll get to that in a moment
Okay
Basically the two of them get out
And find their way out
Her and the Vizark
Is it was also playable
On the tabletop too
Got a pretty dope model
Does he suck?
No actually
There's actually a really good build right now where you take Yvrain the Vizark and you put them with a whole bunch of Harlequins and you're brain because she has like...
Yeah, because she has like the spirit of the dead.
You, uh, it's, it's, um, what is it?
You can like revive the Harlequins from death.
It's fun.
It's fun.
Okay, cool.
It's making sure we didn't have another Vash tour issue where cool mini, who boy, is he bad.
No, not this time around.
Thank God.
Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.
But basically, this is how they eventually escape Kamorong and made their way out.
This is all pre-13th Black Crusade.
So the goal, of course, now that she has this level of power from the god of you need,
the goal is naturally to still summon the god you need and the god of death and have them kill or stop Slanesh, basically.
Sure.
And so the Unari walked the path of the undead for the most part.
So like a lot of those soulstones, for example, that they have, they can kind of like gleam power from it.
So it's like, oh, you're dead spirits and dead friends.
You can like use their abilities maybe or like get some power that they can lead, give you or heal wounds and that kind of jazz.
That's the one.
That's the one to have.
That's a good one.
So if they're following like the god or goddess of death, like what happens when they
Is it still just the same schick where it's like, well, you better have a soulstone.
Otherwise, Lanesh eats you?
Or do they have like a special thing where they're just like, nope, you immediately get revived
because you need, you needs you.
How does, is there any difference with that or is it just kind of the same deal?
Well, as you can see from the guy, they are still, they still have plenty of soulstones on them.
Oh, yeah, that many does have.
Well, so I was wondering if it was like maybe they just used soulstones for power.
And so, like, they would still want to drape themselves in it because it's like, I want all the buffs I can.
So I'm just going to put them all over me.
Or if that was, like, still the Eldari thing that they have to do.
I'd argue both.
I mean, you know, the idea of, like, death and rebirth is still a thing.
But Slenish still kind of has your soul.
But you get more into, you understand a bit more of it as it goes on.
So in order to summon you need in its full right, the, the, the, the, the,
the old Eldar prophecy, basically.
And the goddess of god damn this lady's name,
Mori Haig.
Mori Haig, the Kroen goddess.
The Kroen god.
The Kroen, Mori Haeg the Kroen.
They are the goddess Mori Heg.
Sounds like a hag, dude.
Mori Heg.
Hague.
Hague, AG.
Well, yeah, but like when you think of like a swamp hag from like, I don't know,
Balders Gate or something, you think of like,
like, oh, I'm more a head. I'm going to eat your salt. You know, like, it kind of just sounds like a,
like a swamp hag's name. I won't, I won't give you, I won't hate you for that one. That's not
entirely incorrect. I can understand that. Okay. I'll give you that one. Plus eight. No,
no, plus one. I'll take what I can get. All right, good. So, I'm paraphrasing a lot of stuff here,
but Yovraine kind of just went along her way doing whatever the hell she wanted for a while
and didn't necessarily much care about the the consequences.
But like it's hard to describe because, okay, so Yvraine believes they have found the way to stop Sonesh and save the Eldar rates from death.
Crazy shit, right?
Like genuine, insane stuff because that's kind of the whole point of the Eldar.
And this is like a way to stop it.
It would be a huge Eldari dub.
It would be probably the biggest Eldari dub you could have
without killing literally everyone else ever.
It has the same intended ability
as if we revived the emperor from death
and the Astronomicon stayed fine.
Yeah, yeah.
It is the end goal for all Eldari.
Right.
And yes, of course,
Slenesh eating the Eldar souls doesn't actually destroy them.
They just suffer eternally.
which is why they're so terrified of death.
So Sleeneh dies.
Because it's not the end.
Right.
There is no end.
There is no end.
You suffer forever.
So Sleeneh dies and then you're free.
In order to pull this off,
you'd Vrain, the Vizark went to Bealtam,
the old craft world, the green one.
They were being assailed by large amounts of chaos forces,
this including scar brand and the mask of Sleesh,
so things were not great for them.
Nope.
And then big old fighting back and forth, yada yada.
They arrive.
Yvrain, the Vizark, along with some harlequins and dark Eldar followers.
Show up.
Turn the tie of the battle.
Good stuff.
Almost immediately afterwards, Yvraine just like shoves her hand into the craft world circuit of Abil-Tam and pulls out a goddamn sword.
Wow.
Just like that.
Hey, I've never done this before, but it's worth a shot.
Yoink!
and just out of the infinity,
or wait, what did she pull it out of again?
She pulls it out of the craft world,
like just the craft world itself,
the infrastructure, the craft world in a way.
Oh, I thought she, like, reached into, like,
the infinity circuit and was just like,
yoink, look at what I got from the souls
that I like so much.
But she's just, she's just, oh, okay.
Is it a cool sword, at least?
Too literally.
Too literally.
It's not important.
Too, we're taking it too literally.
This is Eldar shenanigans here.
Oh.
So, all right, go on.
Too literally.
It doesn't matter.
Who cares?
Not the important part.
Beal tan.
Beal tan.
She rolled up, almost destroyed the entire craft rule by doing this.
And it barely even survived.
Lots of stuff.
She pulled out a cool sword.
Uh-huh.
A cool sword.
Uh-huh.
We've emphasized it's cool.
It's not hot.
It's not loose.
lukewarm, it's cool. It's cool. It's a cool sword. Does it have a name? It does. And these, actually,
crap, which sword did she pull out? I think she pulled out her own sword. I'm pretty sure she pulled
at her own sword. I'm trying to remember which sword she took out. Those are all cool swords.
I believe it was her sword. And if it's her sword, it is Kavir the sword of sorrows.
Oh, wow. She's a, so she's a sad bitch if her sword is the sort of sorrows. Damn.
So this is the background lore.
Eldar stuff, I swear.
So Mori Hague the Cron, third in a trinity of Eldar goddesses.
She was a consort to Kylus Verilatnian or Death God yet to be.
Okay.
And became the father for one of her daughters being the howling banshees, the banshees.
Eventually, this crown goddess, Morai Heg, wanted to understand the wisdom contained within their own divine blood.
However, only the Eldar war god, Kane, had the power to harm a god.
So, this is very like, like, almost like Norse, like very, very like told, uh, orally kind of, kind of way.
She sent her daughters, the, the banshees to hunt their father with their piercing screams.
and in order to end this piercing torment,
she asked Kane to cut off her hand
so she could drink from her own blood.
Kane complied
and in exchange was given the aspect of the banshees
granted to himself,
but allowed more I hate to gain knowledge
within their own blood.
Okay, okay.
So he's cool with it because like,
can you stop them from screaming so much?
It's getting very annoying.
And she's just like, yeah,
cut off my hand so I can,
and that that's essentially how it goes.
Again, I listen, chat, I know I am repeating what Bricky just said,
but that is a wild thing to unpack.
To Eldar God in mythology, Eldar mythology,
it's their oral tales.
You should listen to this with the same amount of understanding
as like what Loki did in the North mythology.
It's just tales, right?
Okay, got you.
Whether it's real or not, it doesn't really matter.
The point is that it's mythology of a race,
Yeah, 60 million years old.
Okay, okay, okay, thinking too hard.
They're not usually, not usually my problem, but apparently it's my problem today.
So you know.
In this case, the end result is the most important.
Okay.
However, with the cut off hand, the five fingers of Morai Heg were then forged into something known as the Crohn swords.
Mori Heg is the Crone.
is Greek mythology
It's just mythology.
Holy shit.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Fingers are getting turned
into swords.
Okay.
Okay.
The smithing god,
Valle,
the Eldar smithing god Val,
said to have turned
the five fingers
of Morai Hague the Crone
into the crown swords.
Now, also,
you may know the Eldar
have the crown worlds.
These are like the fancy worlds
they have.
We're named after Mori Hague as well,
yada, yada.
Okay.
Point being,
the five severed fingers
of Mori Hague,
Hague went on to form the crone swords.
And since Mori Hague was consort to death god yet to be, the idea is that you collect all
five cron swords, and these are the relics you need to resurrect you need.
Okay.
You need to collect them.
Now, when good old Yvrain pulled out her cron sword, Cavier, the Sword of Sorrows,
she also was able to open up a portal of massive psychic energy
and summon a demi-god, a herald, an aspect, an avatar of the god of death you need,
known as the Yinkarn, which is the crazy, floaty bitch in the back between the two of them.
I was about to say, is that what that floaty thing was?
Okay.
So just pulling out the sword made an avatar show up and is like, hello, let me help you, let me guide you.
I'm pretty strong.
Let's go look for the rest of the swords.
Once again, thinking maybe a little too simply this time, it's not, it's not, you're trying to base it into like simple language.
It's not as simple as like, I pulled the sword out and here's the god.
Like, I am condensing what is most likely six chapters worth of a book into,
one statement.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
It's like pull the sword out and then the rift opened and the Peel Tandcraft World shattered
in two and you need is trying to get up but we must slay.
Okay.
One hour an episode, D.K., we're the foot in the door people.
Remember, we're not looting.
We're not looting.
I know, but first I'm thinking too hard.
Now I'm thinking too soft, man.
I don't know.
Like, I need to find the happy medium.
Just be, my friend.
Just be.
I am an internet personality.
You can't tell me to just exist.
Be, my friend.
Okay, okay, okay.
Here we go.
Let's go.
Okay, we've got a demigod that pulled out a sword, got the avatar.
We got to look for the other swords so we can summon you need.
We need her to get rid of Slanesh.
What's next?
Okay, so they're out.
They're out.
Yeah.
Actually, thank you, Shai.
This is a really good way to put it.
Think of it as a religion because it literally is.
Well, I guess, yeah, yeah.
Also, that picture of the Incarn is like the coolest thing ever.
Oh, yeah.
Those, yeah, I would agree.
That is a mini?
Well, that's an image, my guy.
Oh, right, right, right.
But does a mini exist and is it as cool?
It's very, very good.
Oh, is it a?
Oh, wow. Holy.
Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Wow. That's one of those ones that I was about to say I would never even try to paint it. But oh, wow. Holy.
It's roughly the same points cost as an avatar of Kane. The two of them are kind of synonymous. They're both avatars of a god. One being the avatar of the god of war. And then this one is the avatar of the god of death.
Death, yeah.
So this is kind of like the triumphant is where they've gotten this avatar of the death god.
And they are making their way to gain all of these individual swords, which led them eventually to working with the Imperials during the fall of Cadia, 13th Black Crusade, working through that whole thing.
Resurrection of Rabutea Gileman.
We've had a whole episode on this part.
And marrying him because obviously.
Shut up. Words less speak them.
When does she get pregnant with Robute Giliman's child because they're obviously an item and get married and have sex?
Why did you hit me with when did she get pregnant?
My brother in the Imperium.
Sanguinius didn't die for this shit.
Sanguinius didn't die for this.
Sanguidius didn't die for this heresy.
So anyway.
Oh my God.
Okay.
So the Yinkarn did.
The Incon did and does, however, have another one of those cron swords in its hand.
This is Vylusar, the sword of souls.
Okay.
So currently we have Kavir, the sort of sorrows, and Villef, Vylazar, the sword of souls.
There is also another one.
of these swords in possession of the Vizark, the silent Ronan swordsman, known as Azuvar,
the sword of silent screams.
Say that five times fast.
Has he had this the whole time?
I haven't read the book.
I don't know.
I was going to say.
Shai, do you know?
It's like if he's had this, though, maybe surely he was like, hey, by the bye, I've got this
really cool sword.
Let's go find the rest of them.
Like, surely they've known that he's had it this whole time.
There's no way.
He was like, by the way, I've been keeping.
this tucked under my cool cape,
sword of souls,
right? There's no way.
I mean, he could have had the whole time
where he got it, he just did mention.
But I honestly have no idea.
Okay. Oh, wait, here we
go. Here we go. The Vizark
is in a former incubus of the Drukari,
right, right, right. Member of the Triumphu Knavah, blah, blah.
The Vizark wields the crone
sword Azuvar, source on the screen, which was recovered
from within the Infinity Circuit of Bealtan.
Okay, so it was also in the Invinity Circuit.
Oh, okay. Cool, cool.
Okay, neat, neat.
Okay, so this was...
Kind of similar to how your brain got hers.
Correct.
So they both got it from the Bealtan circuit,
and the Yinkarn also wields the largest and most powerful the crown swords,
the Villasar one, because it's literally an avatar of the dead.
They just need to reach into more infinity circuits, it sounds like.
The, well, Beel Tan was the one that had most of them for their reasons.
Okay.
Religion, mythology, it's a whole thing.
Sure, yeah.
The fourth cron sword is owned by Prince Uriel.
We have not talked about Prince Uriel much.
He's kind of neat.
I think he's a little bit of a shitter,
but I don't have much to back that up.
Like Uriel Ventress?
That's the ultramarine that gets put into the demon kilbasa, right?
This is a different Uriel.
So this is Prince Uriel.
Uriel is like UR-I-E-L or whatever.
This is Prince Uriol.
Y-R-I-E-L.
Of course it is.
It's Eldar.
Just let it happen.
All right.
Yep.
I'm just going to let it gloss over my smooth brain.
It'll be fine.
Yep.
He has a slightly modified version of the Eldar sword.
He has something called the Spear of Twilight.
It is an altered version of a Crohn's sword.
So he has another one of the five Crohn's swords as well.
Just, you know.
Yeah, he's a corsair.
He's a pirate, basically.
One of the Eldar Corsairs that kind of go on their own and do their own thing.
Yeah, kind of like the red Corsair.
Yeah, except instead of hating taxes, it's, I don't want to be a Drukari or a craft roller.
Okay.
I mean, that's, I mean, I'm sure there are tons of Eldar like that that just hate both sides because they're just two extremes.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
And so those are four of the five Crohn swords.
There is a fifth Crohn sword.
The fifth one is completely unnamed.
And it was, unfortunately, and this is kind of where you're like, oh, maybe the Eldar are actually on to something.
Because the fifth one was actually found by Shalaxi Helbane, named Keeper of Secrets, Greater Demon of Slanesh.
Oh, no, a greater demon of Slanesh found the last one?
Not just any greater demon of Slenash.
This is Shalaxi Hellbane.
It's like not just a bloodthirster, scar brand.
Oh, so a really, really important buff Slanesh Hell Demon found it.
Oh, no.
Yes.
Oh, they're very cool.
That's a mini and a half right there.
They're a great, great, great many.
But they were able to obtain the fifth crown sword and bring it back.
to the palace of Slanesh,
aka the domain of
Slonesh in the warp.
Like Nurgles Garden.
Ooh,
that's very
unfortunate for the
Eldari and
Yanari at you.
Yes.
Do you remember the
six diabolical
Willy Wonka circles of hell
in Sla Nesh's palace area?
I do remember us talking about them
and how
easy it is to get caught in them and how
there's a lust one, there's a food one.
And then isn't the one right before
She Who Thirsts Castle?
It's just like the most tranquil
place you could ever be.
It's like, what is it, like a beach where it's just
like you just feel the most calm
you have ever felt, you feel pacified,
you feel amazing, and people
just flump, lie there and die.
Pretty much. Yep.
That's the last circle.
I can't believe you remember this,
but can't remember the night-lord.
of the 8th Legion. My God.
The death guard is the 7th Legion, right, Bricky?
You almost have me, actually.
Minus two.
But yes, so the palace of Slanesh is
in the center of the six circles.
And if you make it to the palace,
Slanesh themselves will reveal themselves.
And then at that point, you're just totally screwed.
Yeah, you're screwed because even looking upon
Slanesh is just like, what is it,
aren't you like instantly just transfixed
and enamored with them or something.
Correct.
You will immediately become a willing slave
because it's Slanesh.
It's, yeah, it's the embodiment of them.
Mm-hmm.
So good luck.
Yeah, good luck.
So, yeah, that is definitely
one of the difficulties
is that one of the crown swords
is in the palace of Slanesh.
So you're not really gonna get that
anytime soon.
No, that's, yeah, that's impossible.
There's no way.
and didn't we say like only like one person had made it and been able to like get a recorded whatever of Slanish's uh lower rung or something
yeah one of the lower realms was like uh one of the inquisitor or something who saw that yeah but uh you want to read what shy posted
sure speaking of anime when yonari tried to kill shalaxi the creature managed to hold off the combined four
forces of Uran, the Yenkarn, the Vizar, Jane Tsar, Lilith Hesprachs, and a solitaire?
What the flaxi was apparently defeated, but revealed that it only been an illusion solid enough
to give good sport and little else.
Hellbane gloated that Slanesh considered the Yanari a little more than playthings as its
glamour vanished, pledging to one day slay Yavrain.
Wow.
Yeah, you're not getting that back.
and you are probably not killing Shalaxi
anytime soon.
That's holy.
So that was just like an illusion of Shalaxi
that they specifically made because,
oh boy,
this will be fun.
Like it's a,
like it's just an illusion
solid enough to give them a good fight
and not even the real thing.
Like it is.
That's crazy.
It's like,
that's the thing,
right?
is like, okay, how the hell are we going to pull this off, right?
You're not.
The end.
But, but, but you know, you know, that that's why it's like, that's why it's the question.
It's like, okay, so, so here's where we're at right now with the Anari.
They, they've lost the final Kron Sorb, and now they're trying to figure out, all,
what the hell are we doing?
What, what the hell is, is the next option?
What are we, what do we hitting up next?
how do we deal with losing the crone sword and making sure that we get good old uh you need you need summoned
yeah and the and i got bad news unfortunately the answer is uh we don't know and and games workshop
isn't telling us i mean at at the moment there's it's it's just a stalem not i want to say a stalemate
it's just slenish winning right because there's just no way you're getting it back
Like, I don't know how the Eldari are going to infiltrate and steal something from Slanesh's palace.
I mean, like, but like what if, oh, you know?
True.
I mean, you know, they might have a book where they come up with some crazy plan to, you know, sneak by Slanesh's all seeing eyes and stuff and get in there and just kind of steal it.
But then again, if they do steal it, it's like, like, I don't think.
Games Workshop is ever going to make that happen because if they get that fifth one, then the Eldari
have a way to kill Slanesh. And I don't think anybody wants that because then anybody that runs,
oh, I don't know, a Slenish army in the game is going to be kind of pissed. Well, there's also,
yeah, I mean, there is also Kegarek, which is the, you know, the god of the Harcquins.
Oh, that's true. And they steal souls from Slinish out of the cookie jar, right. Does,
those little pranks here and there, you know, like has some, has some interesting.
shenanigans that you can maybe pull with that kind of thing.
You know, there are some options like that.
But at the same time, I don't know.
But that also is the other process.
Okay, here's our attempts to bring you need to life and then use the crone swords.
But, you know, Eldrad had his own idea utilizing the infinity circuits of the craft worlds.
who's to say that there isn't a third option.
But at the moment, Yvrain, the Vizark, and the Yenkarn aspect are basically bringing a lot of people to their cause.
Harlequin troops, Drukari members, other craftwolders, exudites, just bringing them all together in that way.
But of course, there are some people who aren't huge fans of them.
The Imperium begrudgingly sometimes work with the Eldar.
most of the time, especially the gray nights
right now, they're like, whoa boy.
Yeah. Not a fam.
Yep.
Vect is a huge
non-proponent of this.
Yeah, okay.
Makes sense.
Like, as Drabail Vect
is, uh, is,
just like, likes how things are.
And definitely, you know,
doesn't want them to change.
He wants to keep the status quo for sure.
And then, of course, you also have other,
other issues like the,
Grey Knight prognosticars and stuff, seeing, hey, you know, the Eldar are trying to do their whole thing here.
But, like, if they succeed, then the Eldar are free from their possible death issue.
Like, we're going to have a problem.
Ooh, that's true.
If all the Eldar are freed from the Sleesh problem, then they start growing exponentially.
And if they reach the numbers they had way back when, ooh, and they're all immortal, then it's like,
Uh-oh, SpaghettiOs.
The Imperium has a big problem.
Like, the Imperium already has a problem with the Eldari,
and they're not even a fraction of what they were.
So, yeah, they probably would be a little like,
let's make sure they don't do that for our own benefit.
It's a bit, it's a bit suss.
The Eldar are really, really powerful on their own.
Like, the natural base Eldar form is arguably one of the strongest,
of all the factions, like the single person Eldar.
I mean, the necrons have to deal with their issues of,
uh,
of,
of,
of,
of,
of,
of,
of,
the orcs are dumb,
but I mean,
they're like,
still powerful.
The,
the orcs are just stupid,
yeah.
The orcs are dumb,
but I live the base orc,
but then,
like,
it depends on how big the orc is.
We know how that goes.
Um,
granted, you do have the issue of the,
a great devourer.
which doesn't tend to stop at all in its path.
It just rolls through basically anyone and everyone.
Yeah, like Shai said, in their natural form,
elder are 100% immortal, all psychers, all super fast,
all super smart, and Slanesh is literally the only thing
keeping them in check.
Pretty much.
So maybe helping them is not the thing that we should be doing.
and maybe we should have done what we should have done years ago,
which has put them in the dirt.
I mean, from the Imperium standpoint, yeah,
maybe we should not be helping them RoboG.
So, yeah, I can see that.
I can see how the Imperium would be, yeah, yeah, yep, yep.
So that's interesting.
And then this is basically what they've done with the Inniari,
and that's about it.
This is the important thing to know.
More than anything here is that,
while there is like two books or something of the Eldar you know that covers the whole thing of like Yvrain and the gladiatorial arenas and all kind of stuff I have told the books like most Eldar books are serviceable at best and like almost every Eldar book tends to be and so you argue you have issues of not particularly fantastic novels mixed with lore that while it does further the
lore of 40K
does like
you, okay, you run
into your classic issue that you're going to
always run into, which is the meta
problem, right?
Yeah, yep, yep. You can't kill
Slanesh. Yeah,
you really can't. I mean, unless you
had something that immediately
replaced Slenish, like Shai said, if you had
something that was just like, oh yeah, Slanesh died,
but whoa,
I'm not going to say Vash Tors taking it.
So it was something like Vash Tors, just like, whoop,
Hello, I'm the new version of Slanesh, and don't worry, all of your chaos minis that were fighting for Slanesh, I'm just as good. Don't worry about it. But all the Eldaria free. You'd have to do something like that, which would be very weird, actually. Which is like, why it's so bizarre. But that's, but it's not, it's like, it's weird, because it's not just from that, it's also from an overarching game world narrative.
perspective. You can't kill Slanesh because people own Slanesh armies and that's part of your
lore. You can't. And you can't really like save the Eldar because that's the defining trait of
the Eldar. So in a weird way, like why would you even be excited for this this doomed cyclical
circle? You know that I didn't think about that from the meta perspective. It's like, oh yeah, we
killed Sleneh. Congratulations. Eldar. You're all free and you're now all 100% immortal, super
fast, super smart, you can't be killed.
Oh, how's that going to work out for the table top?
Oh boy, the elder, everybody's going to use the elder.
You literally can't kill them.
Yeah, like worse, I guess the only real way they could do it is find a medium.
They can find some kind of medium where it's like, A, we succeeded in getting all five
Crohn swords and summoned you need.
And so now if you pledge your psychic service to the incarn, or to the, to the, to the,
to the Anari, when you die,
you need saves you by you not going to Slanesh.
Yeah, but you still die.
Right, but like,
tortured by Slanesh, yeah.
And you're battling,
but they're constantly battling Slanesh
and all that kind of stuff.
Like, you can have that as maybe your sub-faction,
but you can't get rid of Slanesh,
because you need it.
Yeah, you really can't, yeah.
You need it.
Ah, look at you, you're doing it now too.
You need it.
No, I know.
You need it.
I was just saying. You need it.
Give a hand for Bricky, plus four, buddy, plus four. Come on.
Let's go.
Shy, you know I did not do this. You know this was not my intentions.
Wasn't it, though?
I'd been priming the pump the whole episode with the you need puns.
How is that?
Herald I should kill you and then summon a god of death.
Maybe they summon enough swords of D.K.
They can summon the god of cringe.
Hey, yeah.
I would definitely summon the god of cringe.
And it would be just like a movable, big-boobbed anime figure that's just rolling around.
And, you know, now, I guess we already have the god of cringe then.
E ubiquitous fluid flowing from it.
Is it, is it water?
I don't know.
Could be.
You know.
I'm upset with the way he is.
You make it.
You sound, oh, I'm so surprised.
I've never heard such curse things come from this man.
Man, really.
Don't man me, bro.
Man, come on, man.
Go reach into your infinity circuit and pull out all the cringe of your ancestors.
Wow, rude.
Rude.
In this conversation, Ricky is Eldar and D.K. is Slynush.
That's fair.
You know, that's the first time and the last time I'll ever be happy about being called
Eldar. But yeah, games workshop, do like anything with this faction because the fall of
Cadia was was genuinely like eight years ago or something and you have not touched them since.
You have all, they also were a faction with a codex, which you then destroyed and put them into
the Eldar codex, which you have then destroyed. And now they are just a couple characters in the
Eldar army. They have literally phased this entire army out of existence on the tabletop. And I just,
I you're gonna get lucky for you you're gonna get like a detachment when your codex comes out
and it's gonna suck fat balls like all the other gimmick detachments do.
Oh, I didn't realize that they had like tried to completely phase them out of out of the game.
Maybe maybe they did that because they're like, ooh, we kind of set up a thing that can't happen.
Maybe if we just drop them in a corner and pretend like they don't exist, it'll go away and we don't have to ever address it.
It's a it's a bunch of shit, let me tell you.
a bunch of baloney.
They also, well, yeah, they drop the clowns too.
There is, there, when the Eldar Codex comes out, you're going to get like eight or not even eight.
You're going to get like five or six detachments.
Three of them will, or four of them will be craft world based.
One of them will be like a Yanari gimmick one and one of them will be a Harlequin focus one.
And that's going to be it because, because Games Workshop has no idea what they're doing.
Yikes.
Yikes.
Anyway, here is my 30 minute discussion that we.
clown around on
I was gonna say, wow, 30 minutes
of lore, huh?
30 minutes old, poor shy,
look at what you've done to her.
He promised her 30 minutes and you
doubled it up on her.
I can't believe you'd do this.
I can't believe you do this to her.
Yeah, well, you need to start caring more, okay?
We have him doing it, shy.
I win, I win.
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