After Party with Emily Jashinsky - America’s Assimilation Problem, Shady Jack Smith Revelations, and Elite Moral Decay, with Sean Davis

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Emily Jashinsky is joined by Sean Davis, CEO and Co-Founder of “The Federalist,” to discuss America’s assimilation problem on the heels of a New York Times report “How Fraud Swamped Minnesota���s Social Services System on Tim Walz’s Watch.” They also discuss why it shouldn’t be surprising, the deadly National Guard shooting, Christmas celebrations being overrun by pro-Palestinian protesters, and an unhinged rant by Wajahat Ali. They also take up Jennifer Welch’s attacks against Stephen and Katie Miller, the Cracker Barrel CEO’s emotional sit-down with Glenn Beck, plus The Federalist’s report from Margot Cleveland, “New Docs Reveal Jack Smith Intentionally Violated Congressional Republicans’ Constitutional Rights.” Then Emily addresses the scandal that has D.C. tongues wagging, and why the disgusting details in the Ryan Lizza, Olivia Nuzzi, and RFK Jr. scandal coupled with the split of the NY Time’s Modern Love couple signals a moral decay among media elites. Cozy Earth: Slow down and recharge with Cozy Earth’s luxurious Bamboo Sheets and Bubble Cuddle Blanket—order by December 12 for Christmas delivery and use code EMILY at https://CozyEarth.com for up to 40% off. Masa Chips: Ready to give MASA or Vandy a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to http://masachips.com/AFTERPARTY and using code AFTERPARTY Cowboy Colostrum: Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code AFTERPARTY at https://www.cowboycolostrum.com/AFTERPARTY Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome back to After Party. Happy Monday, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for subscribing as well. Obviously, we're in the several days after Thanksgiving glow, so I'm still feeling thankful for all of you. We appreciate it. If you haven't yet subscribed, wherever you get your podcast,

subscribe on the YouTube channel. It helps us so much, and we really appreciate it. appreciate it. Now, tonight's show is as packed as the news cycle. I feel like whenever people are off for a few days, the news just stacks up and stacks up and stacks up. So there's no shortage of hot topics to get to today with our wonderful guest, Sean Davis, who I'll get to in just one moment. I'm so excited to have Sean on tonight's show because the theme is basically the combination of naivete and just utter pure, sheer evil from our political class. So we're going be talking about a number of different stories that I think are all tethered by a common thread.

And it is that threat of complacency, naivete, evil, but just the destruction that is still being reeked on life for the average American by decisions made years ago and in many cases still being made today. So you may have guessed from that. I want to talk a lot about what's happening with Tim Walls and the Somali community in Minnesota. Hopefully shed some new light on what's happened with that. We're going to talk about the National Guard shooting here in Washington, D.C. Some news on that front as well. A couple of media stories, Jennifer Welch, going off once again, this time on Katie Miller. I call her blue and on diamond and silk. I think that's probably her and her and pump, whatever they both call they call themselves. I think blue and on diamond and silk

or maybe like white collar diamond and silk. That's the way we'll refer to them. So we have a clip from them to come, Wajaha Ali saying truly crazy stuff, some more details from the Federalist on Arctic Frost, which I'm very excited to get to. Some more Cracker Barrel details. Did you know that the Cracker Barrel story's still going on?

It is. So we are going to get to that because I know, I just know in my heart, in my mind, that Sean has a lot to say. And, guys, if you thought the Cracker Barrel story still going was crazy, Wait until you hear that Ryan Liza is still writing about his failed engagement to Olivia Nesey and his latest post is absolutely insane.

Like I'm serious, it's absolutely insane. The creator of the Modern Love column is getting divorced. Just so much good stuff happening tonight. Good stuff is probably too sarcastic. But we have a lot going on. I'll just put it that way. So before we get to the news, first I just want to say, think about December, all the hustle and the bustle. What is that moment that you are looking forward to the most for me?

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Thanks for having me. You know, I was thinking, I was just talking before we went to air, I still feel like you have the power to fire me. I lived in fear of being fired by Sean Davis for six years of my life. Carry it with you wherever you go. To be clear, it's everyone. He can't fire me. You can't fire me.

I don't work in this van. It's a quote Dwight Shrewt, but I don't know. You'd find a way, I feel like that. That is the best episode ever of the office. Are you serious? Because that's actually, I have since I was literally like 12 said the injury is the best episode of the office. It's the best. I think I've seen every episode in the Michael Scott years. I don't acknowledge the ones after that. After I watched it five times, him cooking his foot is the best.

You just said it was the best episode, and yet you've only watched it five times. I think I've probably watched it at least 50. So Sean, stolen valor. I had it on my iPod video. Think about that. I downloaded it from iTunes on my iPod video. Yeah, you're the, you're the, you're the real deal then when it comes to office fandom. Life of a millennial. All right, Sean. Let's get into the quote real news, I guess. I want to talk about the fraud story in Minnesota because it is metastasizing for America's

governor, Timmy Walls, the DFL governor of the great state of Minnesota. And I say great state seriously, though it pains me, given what happened in the Minnesota Wisconsin football game, it should be a wonderful place to live. It should be a place where you don't have to worry about your children. you know, getting trans treatment against your wishes because Tim Walls decided it must be a sanctuary state. It should be a place where you work hard, pay your taxes, and don't have to worry that political correctness is keeping people from preventing mass fraud. In, for example, the Somali community, so we can put F1 up on the screen. This was a New York Times story that dropped over the last several days.

You've probably seen the ripple effects of it already if you haven't seen the story itself. The headline here is how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services. on Tim Walls' watch. We now know from Semaphore it came because the New York Times was trying to beat Chris Rufo and City Journal and the Manhattan Institute to publishing a story about all of this. But Sean, something that strikes me is anybody who was following this story knew that there were massive allegations of fraud against the Somali community in Minnesota over the last couple of years. And everyone has known there are significant assimilation concerns.

And Minnesota conservatives have been screaming like hell into the void about this for years. And only in 2025 is this suddenly a big issue because what it's, there's fraud. I mean, it does seem kind of crazy. Yeah, and look, the fraud is obviously a problem. It's been reported on a ton. Rufo did great work. Walter Kern and County Highway did work. People who've been following this and who are awake and cognizant are aware of what's been going on there.

You know, I've got a very, very good friend, born and raised in Minneapolis, built his business there, who ended up leaving because of the insanity that took over that city. They refer to it, by the way, they refer to Minneapolis as Little Mogadishu. That's a very normal thing to hear when you go there. For years. For years. Yeah. And what I find fascinating is, yeah, the fraud is a problem. To me, it's a symptom. The major problem here is you have an indebt. entire group of people who are incapable of being assimilated into America and they all need to go back.

Every one of them. Yes, every one of them. Like, I'm sorry that life in your country sucked. Not my problem. Actually, I think that's kind of a you problem. And you don't get just a forever card to come to America because life in your country sucks. Like, I'm sorry that America is not a global refugee camp. It's not a global ATM.

It's not a global ATM. It is a country that in our founding document says exists for us in our posterity. It does not exist for every third world refugee to come and make their own homes. So, yeah, they all need to go back. And by the way, that goes for Ilan Omar and all of her brother husbands as well. They all need to go back. Well, as you know, Sean, her current husband doesn't seem to be her brother. He's also white, which is a bit interesting given Ilan Omar's many comments about the whites.

I mean, we're irresistible, apparently. Yes, that's true. That's what's going on. Clearly, that's what's going on. I just want to put F2 up on the screen because I don't, I forget where I stumbled upon this, but this was an op-ed in the Minnesota Reformer, which is a progressive state paper. It's one of those, it's from that network that's, to my knowledge, backed by leftist-dark money. And this is July of 2024, July of 2024.

It was written by Casey Magan, if I'm pronouncing that. excuse me, if I'm not, who was an investigator in the Medicaid fraud division of the Office of the Minnesota Attorney General. And it's worth, again, this is before this fraught moment right now where the New York Times was shining a light on Tim Walls after conservatives have been talking about it. So July 2024, who wrote, during my time at the office of the Attorney General, I witnessed some members of my community who were under investigation by our office, brazenly level false accusations of discrimination against my colleagues, rather than retain an attorney to argue their case in court. Some sought out the Attorney General at public events. Others reached out to Somalia elected officials. Members of my community must cease the leveraging of race and religion to avoid accountability.

And Minnesota's politicians, mostly DFL, must muster the courage to address the systemic fraud in our publicly funded programs. To be clear, that is not coming from Chris Rufo if you must discard the source because you think there's a bias. I'm going to continue. This writer says, it's cultural, arguing our system of Quran, if I'm pronouncing that, in Correctly again, excuse me, provides a social safety net in the form of financial assistance to those who have fallen on hard times. Unfortunately, has also been used to financially support people who have been charged with defrauding the government. Funds raised by the community have gone towards paying bail on expensive legal bills incurred by fraudsters. This assistance from the community has reduced the stigma once associated with criminality and enabled fraudsters to offload onto others the financial costs associated with their crimes.

One more part here, Sean, he writes, fraudsters have also sought to exploit the burgeoning political power of the Somali community. and the feckless fear that establishment politicians and state agency show when confronted with charges of racism or Islamophobia. I just want to reiterate. This is from a progressive news outlet in Minnesota from a Somali man who was working in the Attorney General Office and in their Medicaid fraud division. You don't need Chris Rufo to tell you that this is a serious problem and it's a cultural one because a member of the Somali community wrote it a year ago before this blew up into a big national news story. Right. And we also know there's just a massive amounts of EBT, SNAP, food stamp, fraud. What I find fascinating is that the reason Smalley's came to America stemmed from our involvement in Somalia in 1993, where Bill Clinton sent troops over there. He sent the Rangers. He sent Delta. I think he sent the 10th Mountain Division over because the Somali warlords were stealing all the food we were giving them and then trying to make money off of it.

So we go there because they're defrauding the international food relief program and then we bring them here and we're somehow shocked when they start defrauding everything here. Like I said, they just need to go back. It's been, what, 30 years? If you can't assimilate by this point

and all you're going to do is defraud the country, go back, go enrich your own country. We keep hearing about how much you enrich hours. I would like to add the idea that maybe you go and enrich your country. What do you think, or why do you think, is a better way to put it. This has been allowed to happen because, again, I mean, I think if you were a space alien who parachuted into 2025 Minnesota, you'd be like, what the hell is happening?

Like, this is not right. Why are you allowing yourselves to be treated this way? Why has this gone on for so long in your perspective, Sean? Well, I think it's an easy answer. These third-worlders who come in become a building block in the House that is the Democrat Party. And the Democrat Party can't get rid of them because they're essential. They've become the foundation of what they've built. They don't really have the middle class with them. They don't have the working class with them. What they do have are women who want to kill their babies and a bunch of third world refugees who have come in here and decided that they need to run things in a country that they have no stake in. So that's why is that the Democrat Party just has no spine and no desire to actually

hold any of them accountable because if they were to do that, then they would lose this 90 to 100 percent support that they're getting from these groups, which, by the way, is the only reason they're being let in in the first place. Yeah, it becomes a sort of self-perpetuating cycle because you're able to curry political favor. I also wanted to ask you about the Christian angle of this because I remember, you know, when I was at the Federalist, we published some excellent reporting.

I think it was from Jordan Boyd, great reporter at the Federalist, about how a lot of seemingly well-intentioned Christian charities were funding the border crisis by funding, obviously, humanitarian, quote-unquote humanitarian relief that created a totally perverted incentive system in like the Dary and Gap area where you had all these migrants coming through Venezuela and etc. going through the Daring Gap, very, very dangerous. And they would get these like survival kits to cross through the horrible jungle and make their way up to the United States. Same thing when they got to southern Mexico. Now, Caitlin Flanagan, who is, I don't even know, Sean,

how we would describe the politics of Caitlin Flanagan. I would say center left. Journalist writer, Caitlin Flanagan wrote, the original impetus of Minnesota's generosity to refugees, like the Hmong in the 1970s, was directly connected to the kind of Christianity that once flourished in the state. Now it seems to be motivated by machine politics. So is this a case of like the best intentions getting corrupted? Is this a case of the best intentions actually not being rooted in something good in the first place? What's happening here? It's probably a little of all of it. And I think with the Somalis in Minnesota, they were facilitated getting there largely by the Lutheran Church, I think by the ELCA, not by the LCMS.

You see it with a lot of immigration coming in from South America. The Catholic Church is getting hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more, in federal grants, to facilitate this migration. So I think, yeah, it probably starts with a good idea. Hey, we want to be helpful, but isn't really more to anything beyond that. and shocking once it gets here, and once you get big money involved, and once you get party politics involved, suddenly it becomes a machine kind of powered by its own strength. I have to get your reaction to this Trump clip.

This is going to be an S-1, where Trump had referred to Tim Walls as, quote, seriously retarded on truth social, and a reporter asks him about it. And, you know, his answer might surprise people if they hadn't heard it yet. So this is S-1. Do you stand by that claim of calling Tom Wall's retarded? Yeah, I think there's something wrong with them. Absolutely, sure. You don't think this.

Do you have a problem with? You know what? I think there's something wrong with him. Anybody that would do what he did, anybody that would allow those people into a state and pay billions of dollars out to Somalia. We give billions of dollars to Somalia. It's not even a country because it doesn't function like a country.

It's got a name, but it doesn't function like a country. Yeah. There's something wrong with Walls. So, Shrun, the best part of that, and it's never good to explain a joke, but I do. Sometimes it's worth it with Trump. The best part of that is he didn't say, no, it's fine to say the word. There's nothing wrong to saying the word. He said, actually, I think Tim Walls has a real problem.

Yeah, and this problem is he's retarded. He's like, what do you mean? Like, there's nothing wrong with using it to describe to him. Wow, his brain doesn't work. He says very dumb things. He kicks and twinkles, and he's a real retard. Sorry, he is. He's like, I wasn't using it.

I wasn't using it facetiously. He's like, I actually think he has a problem. It's like, nobody can pull this off. Like, anybody who watched the guy during the campaign knows there's something wrong with him. Like, what was he doing? What was with the dancing and the kicks? The kicks on the stage?

And then, like, the twinkle fingers, I call him Governor Prancy McJazz hands. It's like he was sitting behind the basketball hoop at a game while they're shooting free throws. He's got the little twinkle fingers up. Something is wrong with the guy. I don't know what it is. Something's wrong with him. Trump's right.

Well, and I mean, again, he could be in trouble with his own party because that's already been happy. That's already just the last couple of days you're seeing backlash to Governor Tim, who as hard as it is to believe, was literally the vice presidential candidate for the Democratic Party just over a year ago. I mean, it's just, it's hard to believe that, Sean. Truly, it actually is hard to believe that. He's a picture of a modern Midwest alpha male, obviously. I mean, the man hunts and knows his way around a gun, Sean. I don't know if you're aware of this.

I mean, I saw the clips. He clearly had handled that gun for seconds before that camera was turned on. He brought with him to the gun the experience of literally seconds. Yeah, that was like the Midwest version of the politician. putting on an apron that just got taken out of the packaging for the first time to show they're really cool and they know how to cook in the kitchen and it's got crease marks all over it. Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty bad. Well, speaking of actually good intentions being warped, let's talk about the story of the National Guard shooter, the alleged National Guard shooter. We can put a Rolling Stone headline here up on the screen. The headline is, fellow unit member says alleged DC shooter felt abandoned by CIA. In one way,

we are already seeing the left sort of spin this story is that this alleged shooter was basically a victim of the system that the alleged shooter was groomed into violence by the CIA, which, again, may partially be true. We'll get to that in just a moment, may partially be true. But what I took away from that story, Sean, is all of the examples in Rolling Stone from their sources of people flagging to the CIA. and we've already seen other reports about people flagging to different refugee groups that were involved in the resettlement process saying he is not well. He is not well. He needs help. Something is going wrong here. And come November, this tragedy unfolds.

And it seems as though around the time of the asylum being granted to this man, there were red flags everywhere, everywhere that something was about to happen. And lo and behold, it happened, and it feels like we see so many stories like this all of the time. Yeah, I might sound like a broken record here, but I've got a plan for dealing with this type of stuff. And it's called Round Up All the Afghans who came in under this refugee program and send them all back. This idea that they can even be vetted, people have gotten put in this trap of saying, whoa, it wasn't proper vetting. We didn't have proper vetting.

How do you properly vet someone coming from a Stone Age goat-herting society that can't read and has no records? How do you vet that? You talk to some CIA agent who's like, yeah, yeah, Jamal over here with the goat. He's good. Trust me. Trust me. He's good. It's absurd. It's an absurd concept. You cannot vet them at all, at all. Number one, number two, their society is utterly incompatible with American society. When we formed this country, if you read all of the documents that we had at the time, all the letters from the founders, the Federalist Papers, you understood that what they were building, was a continuation of hundreds and hundreds of years of English common law and just basic

Western British society so that when you had the Constitution that we created and you had the states and the colonies, these were things that people understood. It wasn't like you had taken them from an alien planet and put them in this new place with a new language and new norms and new laws that were utterly foreign to them. No, no, no, it fit. That is not the case with people we brought from Afghanistan, notwithstanding how helpful they might have been. Congratulations. you helped us help you free your country. You don't get a free ticket to America as a result of that. So the solution here, you know, yeah, they may have missed red flags with this guy. This guy actually wasn't the main problem with the whole program. He shows one of the flaws with it. But the major problem with the whole program is that we let people like him in in the first place. We should never have had to have a system where we're monitoring these refugees and these people who came over for red flags that they're throwing up. We never should have had to do that. No one should have had the burden of tracking all these people that the CIA trained to try and figure out

who is going to go shoot up a school or a bunch of guardsmen one day. They never should have been here. So we should round them all up and send them all back. Again, if you're an alien parachuting into 2025 America, you would look at the tens of thousands of resettled Afghans, some of whom, to your point, Sean, may have been involved in this kind of enternecine conflict as we were in Afghanistan, and I think you and I probably agree way too long, doing way too much attempt, way too many attempts at nation building, essentially. And with rogue operations at this, I say rogue, meaning anti-democratic, not rogue from the Pentagon or whomever they were responding to either the CIA and other intel programs. And because then they tell us that

these are not all Democrats, by the way, they tell us that we owe a debt of gratitude that that means then tens of thousands of people have to come to the United States, it just seems so obvious, again, that something like this was going to happen. And this isn't the only case at all. There was a case in Northern Virginia just several months ago of a man who shot himself at a police stop because he felt that America was worse than Afghanistan. There's been similar reports about this alleged shooter as well. What does it take?

I mean, this is the Trump administration. He was given asylum in April. I feel so frustrated, Sean, that happened under the Trump administration. Yeah. I mean, who knows what is going on bureaucratically at that time. It's three months into an administration. The problem was letting them here in the first place. They never should have been brought here. We owe you nothing. It's great that you helped us, but you were in your own country. You were helping us fix your own country. Maybe you owe us, but we don't owe you anything. We certainly don't owe you a lifetime, all expense paid trip to America for you and all your favorite family members. That's not how this works. And unfortunately, I don't think we're at the end of this it's going to happen again and it's going to happen again and it's going to happen again

because we have a significant chunk of this country who has decided either that one America deserves this. We deserve to have these people in here wreaking havoc and causing chaos or that these other people deserve to be here because we're evil colonists and we did

whatever bad things, who knows when. They're just simply never going to change their minds that America is for Americans. America exists. for Americans in our posterity. And the problem is we've had America so defined down and so deconstructed by the left over 50 to 60 years of lies and nonsense in deliberate revisionism that people actually today don't even understand what the purpose of America is. It is not a global refugee camp. It is not a global business park. It is not a global ATM. America exists

for Americans. It was created for Americans. And it was created for Americans in our posterity, which means our children. And if you look at what words actually mean, if you look at what, you know, nation, for example, what is the root of nation? It's birth. A nation is a collection of people who are born there and raised there. That's what a nation is. It's not simply a border. It's not a concept. It is a common people and culture and ancestry and religion and beliefs working together for their own good. And we've apparently been told we're not allowed to have that anymore. And I just want to say skin color has nothing to do with it. Like, literally has nothing to do with somebody's skin color. It's about everything that Sean just outlined. And by the way, like,

some of the greatest people who have come through our refugee program are Cubans. I mean, truly. And that's because they love the idea of the United States of America and have been excited to assimilate into the culture of the United States of America, not excited to take advantage of the kindness of people in the United States of America, but to participate in that kindness and to participate in the concept of citizenship. And it just, these cases are so obvious that you have groups of people who are not comfortable with the concept of citizenship as Americans have seen it for centuries. And it's like we've been desensitized to that concept ourselves to the extent where native-born Americans don't even think about that anymore. And it's, Sean, I just find that to be

actually even more frightening. Yeah, it's sad, but you're right. Skin color has nothing to do with it. It has to do with whether you will pledge yourself to become an American, learn our language, learn our customs, learn our tradition, learn our history, learn to love our people and all the things we've done. You obviously look at Americans, see something that is worth going to. And so there should be a base level of humility from people who come here,

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of us beforehand. But once you let one of us in, you know what happens with brown folks? Our grandmother comes, our grandfather comes, our uncle comes, our aunt comes, our cousin comes, our second cousin comes, our third cousin comes. Then we have kids, a bunch of kids. And then guess what? Some white women, you know, the western civilization women, the pure women, the American women, the quote, the rust belt women, the real women,

they like some of us brown folks. I want you to realize this. You have lost. Your story is a shitty story filled with misery. It's filled with bland chicken. It's filled with terrible, terrible, dry-ass meat. Your music sucks. All your culture sucks. Okay, so, Sean, I believe that was generically addressed to white people, but a lot of things happening in that Wajahad Ali clip, which on the one hand, he is saying, your problem is that you let us in here.

And on the other hand, he's saying your culture sucks, which is making your point from the last segment for you on a silver platter, which is that your problem, America, is that you're letting in people. He says brown people, but as we were talking about, it has literally nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with what he just said is that your country is miserable and your culture is miserable and you have bland chicken, whatever the hell else. Yeah, so why do you want to come here? Yeah, right.

If it's so bad, why did you want to come here? And if we're so dumb, if the food's so bad, why did you leave the paradise you were in? So it refutes itself. But I actually liked that clip because he just admitted everything we've always known

that they're not supposed to admit out loud. Now, he did it by like saying a word and then patting it with three or four examples of the word and then another word. So he does this list thing where it sounds like he's smart, but he's actually just padding for time. Yeah, watch how we see that. We know what you're doing. Those filler words. Yeah. And then what's with the constant food thing?

It's this weird. Pierce Morgan did it with Tucker. You're like, oh, well, yeah, I would all, I'd trade all my country in for chicken ticamassala. Okay. Like Epicurious exists. Okay, we can go to recipes.com. You had to sell your entire birthright for some lentil stew because you couldn't look up the recipe online.

It's the weirdest insult, and I don't really understand it, but they're apparently very, very proud of their spices in the year 2025. And by the way, America is so racist and awful, but also the women are just in love with all of you, despite their racism. and they just can't get enough, apparently, of Wajahad Ali, despite their racism, Sean, they just are fawning over him. Yeah, well, again, I'm just thankful for him for admitting all the things

that we've been saying for years that they got mad at us for saying and called us racist for saying, and he's just out there on TV saying it out loud. So props to you, buddy. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I was going to say, it is a really, really serious thing that if what he's saying is reflective of a lot of new immigrants to the United States, first generation. And then he's, I think he's second generation.

His parents came from Pakistan. If my history is correct. I think he's first generation. I think his parents immigrated and then he was born here. Okay, perfect. So new waves of people and families to the United States, who, to contrast with the example of a lot of Cuban refugees we talked about, aren't obsessed with America

and like going into the grocery stores with their, you know, chins on the floor, and tears, because they're so happy to see like 40 different kinds of deodor but are just turning around and saying, you suck, you're terrible. And I want to, on that note, play a video of a pro-Palestine protest at the Brussels Christmas market. And we also have a clip from Portland. So we can start rolling S2 here.

This is the Brussels Christmas market. I think this was over the weekend where you see it being completely overtaken. If you're listening to this, you see just a flock of people chanting. in putting up dark smoke into the night sky. It's a really ugly picture. I think of people trying to have this like cheerful, festive Christmas market in the background. And then it getting completely overtaken by disruptors, protesters, screaming in support of Palestine at this Christmas market in Brussels.

So then we can go ahead also here and play this sot. This is going to be S3 of a free Palestine chant at the Portland, Portland, Oregon, tree lighting over the weekend as well. Here's that clip. And so if I could get a free, free, free Palestine. Free, free Palestine. Thank you. And there was also like land acknowledgments happening at that, Sean. And you were allowed to colonel.

Christian holidays. Like, it's so, it's like the only holidays that you're allowed to colonize and culturally appropriate are the Christian ones. And they would respond to us and say, that's, of course, because Christians are the oppressors and the oppressors can't be oppressed. They can't be the victims of, this is how they're thinking goes, racism or cultural appropriation because they're the dominant culture. We can't appropriate them. It's obviously stupid logic, but Christians aren't allowed to have their religious celebrations, despite the fact that there are more practicing Christians than just about everyone else in this country.

This country has a very long, inarguable Christian tradition. And the same goes for people who are trying to celebrate in Brussels. And, you know, this is what happens now. Well, it's what happens everywhere. And it shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Of course, a religion, a country, whose foundational religion is a religion solely of conquest, which is Islam, of course they're going to show up and try to colonize you and conquer you.

The religion has no respect for anyone else. We're infidels, okay? At best, we might be demis that have to pay the demit tax under their Sharia law where they'll let you exist in a certain form with a few little freedoms as long as you pay the demi tax. Of course this is happening. And so I actually, I don't know why anyone is so. surprised. When you let this into your country, of course this is going to be the result.

Anyone who's surprised by this probably shouldn't be in any position of power because it's utterly predictable. Actually, it's not even predictable. They just say they're going to do it. You don't even have to predict it. You just have to listen to them, talk about what they believe and what they're going to do. Well, in this case, I mean, I don't think what they were doing that really had much to do with Palestine. It had to do with like anti-Western sentiments. Again, related to Christmas, the birth of Christ, it was a holiday market. It wasn't like an imperialism market. It was literally a Christmas market.

In Portland, it was a Christmas tree lighting. That's all it is. That's all it is. And not even that. You can't even get through that in certain places in the West anymore without being targeted for disruptions and protests. It's so, I mean, to your point, not entirely surprising, but it just feels like the entire West has been asleep at the wheel and is, waking up 20 years later.

Oh, I wish they had only been asleep at the wheel. I think it is much, much worse. They were the ones powering the wheel the whole time, bringing all these people into the country, watching what they were doing to it, and then not just doing nothing to stop it, but just accelerating the wheel that was bringing all the people in. Mass immigration has been a massive failure for America across the board.

We had leaders who understood it. Calvin Coolidge understood it in the early. 1920s. Everyone who has understood and studied any amount of history knows what happens when you start to dilute your own culture and your own people by bringing in tens of millions of immigrants from cultures that cannot be assimilated to your own. Of course this was going to happen. So I feel like calling them asleep at the wheel is the most generous interpretation of what they're doing. I actually think it was far, far more malign. I think people thought as long as they could get rich and people didn't notice, they were happy to keep doing it. Well, I'll tell you what, people have noticed now,

and I think they've had enough. When I just want to connect this back to the Somali fraud story we were talking about earlier, wherein, again, I read an op-ed in a progressive state paper from a member of the Somali community who said people are weaponizing their identity to shield themselves from investigations and accountability in these fraud cases. That is going to happen over and over again. It has been happening over and over for years. We know that's the case. And nobody wakes up unless there's some massive, or people in the public, not to say the leaders, who, for example, are urging these resettlement programs in mass

or these refugee programs in mass, but the public just sort of assumes everyone else is going to take care of it, and then wakes up, and it's like, wow, we can't even do a Christmas tree lighting without land acknowledgments and free Palestine or massive disruptions, because nobody wants to just let that happen.

Nobody is okay with just Christmas. It's just Christmas, letting Christians have a holiday that everybody loves, that, nope, can't, this is why we can't have a nice thing shown to put it that way. It sucks, sucks. Well, I mean, look, we had a guy who was in the U.S. illegally, who was trafficking human beings. I believe he was a wife-beater, a prime suspect, a prime person to round up and send back. And you had the entirety of the Democrat Party, the entire left-wing media infrastructure,

the entire legal establishment and the entire corrupt judicial establishment say, you know what, we're not even going to let you send this guy back. You found one of the worst of the worst, we're not even letting you send him back because they are all in on mass immigration as a way to decolonize and take over America. It's as plain as day. And I don't know about you. I don't know about anyone else. I'm sick and tired of not being allowed to say it.

So I'm just going to say it. Like, it needs to stop and they all need to go back. There was a really hot debate, and you'll remember this better than I do, in the post-9-11 years, between Ben Affleck and Sam Harris at the time on, it was real time with Bill Maher, I believe, where Sam Harris was talking about the compatibility of Islam with liberalism, lower-case L, classical liberalism, and Affleck erupted on him for being Islamophobic.

And these types of debates actually happened all of the time back in the odds, where you had skeptical center-left types. They probably described as like IDW, heterodox type people now who were sounding the alarm about this for a very long time. But it seems to me, Sean, like most of those people are no longer associated with, like, the broader left. And there's basically nobody on the left who should be concerned just from their perspective about what could happen to women, what could happen to speech. In, you know, cases like Charlie Hebdo, all of these things are.

potentially on the horizon again. And there just seems, this is my last question on this topic. It just, I know neither of us is on the left, but I do talk to a lot of people on the left. And it astounds me the lack of curiosity about the compatibility problems that could be, doesn't have to have to have anything to do with skin collar, doesn't have to do anything to do with racism. It's purely a matter of culture. And it seems to be coming up once again, and there's nobody this time sounding the alarm. Well, right. Well, we started talking about this at the beginning of the program. It's because the Democrat Party, the entire establishment, all its power is based on bringing in more and more people like this. They need them to continue. They need them to make the money they're going to make off politics. They need them to maintain and increase their power. And when you talk about the effect on speech, the effect on women, the Democrat Party is against speech. It is fully explicitly against the First Amendment. The Democrat Party, is against even the concept of women.

To ask them to define what a woman is. They can't do it. They can't do it. They want dudes, traipsing around in women's locker room beaten up on women all day, and they think it's empowering. So they don't believe in speech. They don't believe in women. They hate Christianity.

They hate America in what it stands for. None of this should be a surprise. The entire Democrat Party, the entire left-wing establishment, is built on destroying and deconstructing every single thing that made America great that made people want to come here in the first place. If people think they hate Christianity, they should be really fearful about what could come after Christianity and read Tom Holland on that. Speaking of the reasons people are afraid to speak out, let's play this clip of Jennifer Welch on today's I've had it politics report talking about the response she got to calling out to Abby Phillip being called out by Katie Miller, the wife of Stephen Miller, for sitting.

with Jennifer Welch on a podcast where Jennifer Welch called Stephen Miller a Nazi Jew. Abby Philip kind of brush it off and said, I don't know what's in Stephen Miller's mind. Jennifer Welch, who is, again, blue anon diamond and silk, one part of blue and on diamond and silk, as I think of her with pump, whatever's going on in that duo, I do not know. This is how she responded to people being upset that Abby Philip, who purports to be a neutral journalist sat there when she called Stephen Miller a Nazi Jew. If you think that my opinion, see what I mean about blue and on diamond silk,

they're taking the aesthetic, is hateful, good. I do not believe in any way, shape, or form in the cruelty that your husband is launching. I will never stop calling out the injustice in the cruelty and the Nazi style ideals that your husband has. And I will always believe that there are so many better Americans in this country than you and your husband and the freaks that surround you all in the White House. It is embarrassing.

Your sociopaths, you are literally, when I think of horrible people in this country, you and your husband are at the very top of the list. And you're just as demented, deranged, sociopathic as your husband is. You know, Sean, what was funny about Diamond and Silk is that they were both kind of in on the joke, but these two aren't. You see the other one just kind of silently nodding on the side when she's like, Nazi Jew, she's nodding. She's like, yep, yep. Who is that potted plant with the prop glasses next to her? Is that a mannequin? I don't know. Angie Pump, Sullivan, is that her name? I think. I don't know. I sat behind Diamond and Silk at, I think it was the 2020 State of the Union. And those ladies were

having so much fun. It was like Trump had his own hype posse up in the stands there. It's one of the more entertaining things I've ever seen. They got so pissed off when the Democrats would boo. It was amazing. I love that. Well, I was going to say with Jennifer Welch calling, because this is, the left is now trying to do the parallel to the Diamond and Silks that grew during Trump won because there was such a dearth of really like pro-Trump. new media voices that weren't attached to some big corporate entity and Diamond's like we're just like on a webcam

talking about how much they love Trump and with no production value or anything it's shot up to mass popularity and Jennifer Welch and her co-host. By the way, I've got a question. What is Jennifer Welch? I like I see her. Who is she

and what has she like do we just like you put a microphone in front of a dummy and then like now now the dummy is suddenly like self-actualized and we have to listen to it now? I don't get. Why does anyone listen to her? What is she accomplished? Who is she? You're going to love this, Sean. She was, uh, first came to fame as a Bravo star, but the show failed. The show failed because it was not compelling television. And it was just about her and her co-host being

divorcees. And so now, uh, she is taking this reality television. So she's like a D-list real house ex-yver. E-F-G list, but you could keep going to Z list. Okay. Also, what happened to her face. I'm going to try to not be mean. I find her very difficult to look at. Like I don't, did they just like suck out all like the fat here? And then like she looks like the South Park version of Bruce Jenner. And I have a very difficult time even listening to her because I can't look at her. She's difficult to look at. So what I take from that is that you're a podcast listener to I've had it. You don't miss an episode of I've had it because it's easy to listen to, Jennifer College. Oh, I disagree. I would not call myself a podcast listener, Emily.

That's true. I listen to her podcast on mute. That's the best way to do it. In all seriousness, she is calling Stephen Miller a Nazi Jew, defending calling Stephen Miller and Nazi Jew. Stephen Miller, the corporate press doesn't cover this a lot. Whether or not you love the guy or hate the guy, he is a target of an enormous volume of anti-Semitic attacks constantly on himself, his wife, and his children. So to invoke the Nazi label because you don't like his immigration policies is, I mean, it's one of these things where they're just continuing to shoot themselves in the foot because when they actually want to apply the Nazi label at some point, if God forbid we ever get to that point, nobody's going to believe them. Well, so I love

the analogy shooting themselves in the foot. You know who else shot himself. Hitler. Think about it. Maybe not in the foot. Well, and allegedly, Sean, allegedly. I've seen those history channel shows. I've seen those history channel shows. Did they think the aliens did it? No, they're hunting him in Argentina. Oh, geez.

But, I mean, the idea that Stephen Miller has any Nazi qualities because he's a hard line. He's an American hero. And man, am I thankful that we have people like him and him and Katie where they are. The guy is a tireless patriot. And I honestly, I have a hard time. I know it's super offensive what she said. She is such a clown, complete with the clown nose and horrific makeup, that I just can't take her seriously. And so it's hard for me to be like, well, we obviously can't have this terrible Hitler-like Nazi rhetoric.

She's just a stupid, stupid woman who wants attention. And she's learned that you can get attention by saying stupid stuff like that about Republicans. And then that'll get you on MSNBC. I don't feel like I have to play that game. I think she's a stupid woman. And I think people would probably be better off ignoring her, her awful face job in the potted plant she has seated next to her. But, she's been on Abby Phillips' CNN show multiple times. And I think you're right, Sean, that she's learned there's something about dropping, as Trump would say the N-word.

He uses it to mean nuclear. In this case, I mean it to use Nazi. I'm using it to be a Nazi that in this environment where there's so many normal Democrats who are furious because the Biden administration just ran up inflation, and, you know, they may not agree with all of us on the reasons for how that happened, but they're pissed. And they want to see Democrats fighting. People like Jennifer Welch confused that for a bunch of average Democrats wanting her to go out and call Jewish immigration hardliners Nazis. And I don't know how long this stunt's going to last. I don't know how long this grift is going to last, Sean.

Yeah, well, I mean, you keep that face under the hot lamps for too long, and I think it's going to melt pretty quick. Anything could happen. All right. Sean, the Cracker Barrel story continues. It continues. We're still talking about Cracker Barrel. Glenn Beck interviewed the CEO of Cracker Barrow. I don't know if I could call it your favorite restaurant, but it's got to be up there.

It hasn't been for a long time. I liked it. The food and services have gone to crap, I'd say, in the last five years or so. So it's been a long time since I've been. I used to love it, though. I used to love everything about it. The booze, when they introduced the booze, I knew that they were going to have a problem. That was a bad idea.

Yeah, it was a bad idea. But the CEOs interviewed by Glenn Beck is talking about the controversy over the redesign and all of that after she sounded unintentionally a little bit like Waja Had Ali talking about how terrible American culture was to bring back to do a callback to earlier in the episode. Here is the video. I want to get your reaction. Were you surprised you weren't fired? Um, I feel like I've been fired by America. I bet you do. That's probably worse. Yeah, because it's hard because, again, all I've wanted to do is help people love this brand. The way I love this brand, the way Doug loves this brand, the way everybody who works here.

I mean, the responsibility for the 70,000 people who work here, I bear that every single day. They are here to make a better lives for themselves, to take care of their families, to put a roof over their head, food on their table. And my job is to make sure that Cracker Barrel helps them do that. The beginning of that answer, which is all that mattered to me, was the most genuine thing I have heard from somebody in your position in a very long time. I can see that it actually, I can see in your eyes right now. That hurt deeply, personally. I want people to love this place.

So that's Cracker Barrel CEO, of course, Juliet Messino, and producer Kelly has answered my question, which was rhetorical, to be fair. I don't really care too much about who Doug is, but it's Doug Heisled, the senior vice president of store operations for Cracker Barrel for the sake of getting our facts straight, Sean, which is deeply important. Are you buying it? Because I just want to say, maybe my strongest conspiracy theory is that the CEO of Cracker Barrel has never been to a Cracker Barrel. I don't think she's ever, I think that might have been her first time. I have so many questions. So Cracker Barrel got dinged for a couple things during its horrific rebrand. One was changing the logo, but the logo was really just a proxy for overall disappointment and sadness about what had been done to the company overall. The second was the redesign of the restaurant where they just made everything look like Chip and Joanna Games barped out shiplap everywhere.

They took all the personality of it. They took all like the chotchkes and the funnalled farm stuff. And it's just like off white and chairs. And so I found it fascinating that she's in there pretending to be super upset. And it looked like they were in one of the redesigned Cracker Barrel. That wasn't vintage Cracker Barrel. That was Chip and Joanna Gaines' board and bat and shiplap Cracker Barrel. So she obviously wasn't that upset about how things went down.

But when you look at her history, I think she was previously at Taco Bell with Young Brands, and guess what her job there was? It was to take everything that Taco Bell was doing and redo it, redesign all the stores, redesign the menu. I guess she did that marginally well. Maybe people only get diarrhea 50% of the time coming out of Taco Bell. We will not be firing strays at Taco Bell on this program, Sean. I will, no quarter for anti- Taco Bell rhetoric. You go to Taco Bell and you're going to be firing strays. for a good two, three hours afterwards.

If you ever need diarrhea and only have like a dollar, Taco Bell's for you. Okay, make a run for the border. No more men on this program. I am banning all men from this program going forward. So, yeah, in your heart, you know I'm right. So she comes fresh off this massive redesign

and rebrand at Taco Bell. That's the whole reason she was brought in. She was not brought in to make people love the brand, which is like, no one loves brands, okay? that's like stupid modern corporate speak nobody's like oh i love the brand i love what coca cola stands for no you love the sugary of diabetes water that you're drinking it has nothing to do with the brand and the same thing was with cracker barrel what people liked was one the food it felt like home-cooked food it felt healthy and they so they loved the food and then they

loved the environment because it felt like you were going into your old southern grandma's house for home style cooking after sunday at church and so for her to say that oh, I just wanted people to love the brand. She stripped all of that away. It's just warmed over Cisco slop that they freeze and reheat. It's not fresh cooked. It's not particularly appetizing when you see it. So for her to say, oh, I just wanted to make people love the brand. No, you wanted to completely redo the brand and remake it in your own image of what people are supposed to like. All she needed to do was go in there and maybe spruce a few things up, tweak a few things on the menu, and that was it. And she did the exact opposite. That woman never loved

the Cracker Barrel brand, ever. And so I find it offensive to see her on this new crying tour, woe is me going around pretending like, oh, I was just trying to do the best. No, you were trying to go in and reinvent the whole thing. And congrats, you did it and everyone hated it. Now you've got to live with it. Now you have to pretend the like grits while you're sitting next to Glenn Beck also pretending to be sorry. All right, Jeff, before I let you go, I do want to get an update on Arctic Frost because Margo Cleveland over at the Federal has a really important story you're not seeing covered in the corporate press about revelations. We can put this story from Margo up on the screen.

You've got to be following Margo if you are not following Margo because she has the scoop over at the Federalist. But the story, the headline is basically that Jack Smith knowingly and Jack Smith's special council team knowingly violated congressional Republicans constitutional rights. And Sean, you're particularly a good person to talk to you, not only. because you're CEO and co-founder of the Federalist, but also because you worked in the Senate for a very long time. And this story involves allegations, uh, not allegations. It involves Senate offices basically being tapped just to read a part here from Margo. She writes, the axi-meronically named public integrity section justified its concurrence based on its

quote, understanding of the law likelihood that any of the members listed below would be charged and therefore, quote, the litigation risk should be minimal here. That was to Jack Smith's team. In other words, the Biden administration ignored Smith's blatant violation of congressional Republican's constitutional rights under the speech or debate clause, because the special counsel's office was unlikely to criminally charge any of the congressional Republicans, and therefore there was little, quote, litigation risk that a court would exclude the unconstitutionally seized evidence. Sean, if this was about a Republican special counsel tapping the phone lines of a Democratic Senate office like they did with Ted Cruz's Senate office, this story would be headline news for weeks. and yet the Federalist and Margo are over here with Scoop City because nobody else wants to touch it. Yeah, Jack Smith burned through the Constitution there quicker than a Taco Bell beef Supreme will burn through your large intestine. No more, ma'am.

I'm just cooking all of your Taco Bell sponsorship going forward. I know. I'm trying to save you from yourself. No, Jack Smith is a disaster who should be in prison. And it's interesting to see how Blase he was about blatantly violating basic constitutional rights and separation of powers. So the separation between the legislative branch and the executive branch is a really, really important one, especially when it comes to prosecutorial power. The executive can't just go and spy on and arrest members of Congress whenever it feels like. It actually takes a really high bar that you have to clear.

And a good example of this, I can't remember if it was 2004, 05, 06. It was somewhere around there. Denny Haster was the House Speaker at the time. And the Bush DOJ was going after William Jefferson, who was a totally corrupt member of Congress from Louisiana. They called him cold cash because I think they found a whole bunch of cash that was illegal stuffed in his freezer. And the Bush DOJ wanted to go in and search his congressional office. And it was a massive like five alarm fire constitutionally at the time. You had meetings up to and including the president, the attorney general, the speaker of the

house to figure out how they could do this in such a way that each institutions, each branch's powers were going to be preserved. It was a big, big deal just to go search one person's office who had already been under a suspicion for a very long time. It wasn't like they were starting a fishing expedition with Jefferson. They kind of had the goods on him. And then you fast forward now where you have this Biden special prosecutor to decide he's just going to go tap the Senate phones of like a quarter of the Republican Senate, number one.

And then number two, he made sure that a judge went and then provided a gag order on all of the telecom companies to make sure they could never actually tell the Senate or the House members that they were being illegally spied on. And to me, this is actually the most offensive part of the whole thing. because those gag were, well, first off, spying when you have no probable cause as they admitted in those emails. We're not going to charge the people. No, they're never going to know about it. We're never going to charge them.

So it will never end up in court. Aren't we smart and clever? So that was the first illegal thing. But there's a specific statute in federal law. I think it's two USC 6682 that forbids the gagging of telecom companies that forbids the Senate from not being told whether it's telecommunications, whether phones, data sources, emails that it has control over are being tapped. It explicitly bans that. Number one, number two, it does that so that the senators can actually be informed so that the Senate or the House can be informed and actually

litigate its rights. And in that same statute, it says that if upon learning that a member of Congress has been spied upon or that there is a subpoena on their official office, the court courts must go and quash that subpoena. Not May, must. So as soon as a member of Congress becomes aware of this, they are allowed to go to court and vindicate their rights and the court is required to quash these subpoenas that are used to spy on them. The Biden DOJ knew this, corrupt Jed Bosberg knew this, and they went and they put those gag orders in anyway because they wanted to make sure that nobody was actually going to find out what was going to happen. They wanted to make sure nobody was going to know that they were being spied on. And that's actually

why they went to such lengths to prosecute Trump. They needed to make sure that nobody ever got into power to figure out what they were up to. It's why they tried to bankrupt him. It's why they tried to imprison him. It's why they had no problem letting someone stroll in and try and shoot him in the head. They had to make sure that nobody was ever going to get in there

and see the extent of their treachery in their spine. And we should mention also these are, correct me if I'm wrong, whistleblower materials being given to the Senate. And so if we didn't have a patriotic whistleblower currently providing these documents to Chuck Grassley, Sean, we would still be completely in the dark about the fact that the Biden era justice system was green lighting, spying on Senate offices, Republican Senate offices, and again, this is all over the, quote, fake electors scheme that they were investigating as part of the January 6th special counsel inquiry. and it just gets more and more ridiculous

the more layers that you peel back, but we only know about it because of whistleblower documents right now. Five years later, by the way, five years later. Right, right. Well, Sean Davis, thank you so much for staying for literally the entire show. I could not stop asking you questions.

Of course, this will be the last time you're on the show. You're fired. You're fired. Because the all-man, this is bringing in full circle because I started by saying, I live in fear of you firing me. We call that call back. Yes, yes.

All right. Well, Sean, I appreciate it so much. Thank you for staying up late for the after party. You're awesome. Thank you, Emily. Appreciate it. All right, we have a little bit more left. Don't miss it. First, though, recently I learned about caustrum. It's the very first milk known as liquid gold that babies received from their mothers after birth, packed with proteins, natural growth factors, antimicrobial peptides that work to enhance your immune response, reduce inflammation, repair, and balance, gut lining, reduce bloating, and make your hair and skin look amazing. Today's sponsor, Cowboy Colostrum, offers the highest quality cow colostrum available in the U.S. 100% made in America from 100% American grass-fed cows. They don't over-process or strip their colostrum, leaving it whole, full fat, and high protein for ultimate nutrient density. It is the highest-quality bovine colostrum you can buy. Cowboy is easy to drink, made with delicious natural ingredients and no artificial flavors.

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But boy, Ryan Liza keeps publishing these dishy substacks of his recollection about what happened. He's trying to frame these. I mean, he's trying to frame these as like artful essay type reflections on what happened. So, I mean, just for an example, The excerpt he published today is called Part Four, Means of Control, the Mar-a-Lago tape, this is a subheading, the Bobby Phone Call, Olivia's side of the story, and the neighbor who cracked the case. And I just have to tell you, he's wildly overselling the drama. He left his last installment off with a little bit of a cliffhanger, implying that he said had some really juicy information about the shooting of Donald Trump in Butler. And it just sort of, eh, I mean, it all comes down to, like, read the post if you must. I think it's paywalled, but it's probably not even worth getting beyond the paywall.

This is, of course, if you've been out of the loop, God bless you. But we were talking about Ryan Liza and Olivia Nezzi, two very high-profile writers for mainstream Washington publications, very, very big in Washington journalism world until it came to light that Olivia Nassia had at least claimed she was having an affair with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. that was apparently never physical. He denied that it was ever requited and that it was very much unrequited was his side of the story. Nezziah is publishing a book called American Canto, and Lizza, who is much older, is now responding by airing all of her dirty laundry in the least masculine act. of journalism, and that is a low bar, we've ever seen in this country, arguably. And so this is happening on Liz's substack. We're waiting for the Nazi book so that everyone can read it. And by everyone, I mean, all like 1,000 journalists in Washington, D.C. can read it. Now,

Lizza's, quote, running list of what Nuzi described about the things she learned about Robert of Kennedy Jr., who of course is currently our Health and Human Service Secretary, Ryan, Lizza, says Olivia had wormed inside his brain. They were engaged and living together until he found out first she was sleeping with Mark Sanford, then he found out later she was cheating on him with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and he breaks it off, breaks off their engagement. He's got kids, by the way. This whole thing is extremely sad and messy.

And I think the more we hear from both sides of the story, the more it becomes very clear that Olivia Nuzzi is not well, and you know, we certainly hope she gets better because this is gnarly. But some of what Olivia described to Liza, he now enumerated in a list in his new subsect post. Brace herself. Kennedy has a pregnancy fetish. Moving right along, because we needn't dwell. Kennedy, quote, doesn't actually believe a lot of the anti-vax stuff, which is actually the weirdest part. According to Lizzo, this never made sense to me as the anti-vax stuff seems to be the one thing he does actually believe, but Olivia's implication is that he just used it to appeal to a highly motivated political constituency to energize his campaign. Kennedy's AIDS believed he was using

drugs again, and Kennedy confessed to Olivia, he was using ketamine. Olivia apparently confessed that she was using Adderall, by the way. Kennedy explained how testosterone, the testosterone he takes, had transformed his body. Kennedy told her that his phone had been hacked at some point in 2024, yet he was shockingly cavalier about it and made few changes to how he and Olivia believed Kennedy was a sex addict, that he was having multiple affairs. Olivia believed Kennedy had recently cut off contact with her because she was no longer useful to him as somebody who gathered political intelligence. Olivia told me that she feared Kennedy would kill her if he thought she betrayed him, and she assured him she would never do so. Olivia explained that Kennedy

had told her he wanted to bind, subdue, possess, and discipline her, and that the sexual proclivities for bondage and total submission carried over for us a relationship. All right. I'm just going to stop right there. We don't need more details about these alleged fetishes. I will say these are Nuzzi's claims to Liza. These are Lizza's claims about Nuzzi's claims to Lizza. Can we follow that? So obviously take it with a massive grain of salt, but this very nasty story is starting to expose some potential political questions. So Kennedy's saying he doesn't believe a lot of the anti-quote anti-vax stuff. You can bet that's going to be asked as a question to him going forward. It means that could be part of her memoir, which apparently

doesn't refer to him by name, just alludes to him by talking about brain worms and other things of that nature. If he is on ketamine as HHS secretary, I'm sure he'll have to explain that. So they're mounting political implications. And I do I think there's any political threat to Bobby Kennedy's tenure at HHS because of Brian, Lizzie revelations about Olivia Nuzzi revelations? No, I don't think Robert Kennedy Jr. is under any particular threat. I think people kind of sadly see all of this is built into the nature of a high-powered Kennedy man.

It's kind of what they expect. and they want someone who's completely disruptive to the politics and the personalist subordinate to the politics in the Trump era for a lot of anti-establishment folks who feel that the country is teetering on the brink of an absolute disaster and don't particularly care about the personal life of Donald Trump or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Now, if Nuzi and then Liza as an extension of as he start to raise political questions, they will have to be answered. They will matter. They will go into the books as part of the story. But I don't think they're a genuine threat to him at the helm of HHS. There are probably other threats that are more serious than they have

nothing to do with his personal life when it comes to his position at HHS. So I'm so tired of the story. At the same time, I'm not really not tired of the story. I kind of wish that I wasn't reading the substacks because, I mean, ugh, it's so dark. It reminded me, though, in a weird way of the story, we can put up from the Daily Mail here. The headline is best-selling author 63, says she's split from husband so she can have more freedom. But guess who's still footing your bills? That's an incredible Daily Mail headline, first of all. I mean, they are just the best in the business. Nobody can beat their headline game. But it's about Kathy Hanauer, who separated from her New York Times journalist husband, Daniel Jones, as the male puts it,

30 years on from their 1992 wedding after growing apart. Now, you may not know the name Kathy Hanauer, but she's actually the creator of the quote, modern love column at the New York Times, which the Daily Mail, I think appropriately describes as the smash hit where readers share deeply personal stories about love, marriage, and divorce that ended up as a pretty splashy Amazon series a few years ago as well. It's critically acclaimed. People have loved it. Even if you don't read the New York Times, you've probably gotten it emailed to you or posted on Facebook at some point in the last like 10 years. It's just been very, very popular. And the way that this reminds me of Naze, Lizzie, Kennedy is just so many of the people

who are talking to you about how you should live your life and asking for power over how you should live your life, are projecting, constantly projecting, because they have so many of their own personal problems that maybe they're ashamed of or they're trying to justify. And I think that's what it is a lot of times people trying to rationalize their own personal failures with political explanations or with personal explanations that they spin into virtues. And modern love as a column Did that a lot. Just emphasis on the modern and all of the ways modernity has steered love in the wrong direction, so to speak. But obviously sad to see this marriage breakup, this 30-year marriage breakup, sad to see people who were creating such a high-profile platform for that conversation about marriage and about modern love, even in ways, I think especially, because it went in ways that I think were unfortunate. It's still sad. to see a marriage break up. So these people, what is, I think it's Rokana,

who now refers to the quote Epstein class. I love that language. I know Rosadem, I'm conservative, but talking about the Epstein class is so perfect because as we talked about over the last couple of weeks, the Epstein emails reveal the sorry state of personal morality inside these elite circles. With Larry Summers, like,

basically using Jeffrey Epstein after his conviction as his personal hitch. Like the Will Ferrer, I'm the Will Frill, the Will Smith movie. He's like, Jeffrey Epstein, he can be this for me. It's unbelievable. And yet totally believable at the same time. So just utterly broken personal lives that get foisted on the rest of the country in the form of norm setting, some cases law setting. And it's coming from such broken people, money and power.

are deeply corrupting the concentration of power and money right now is pushing, I think, some elites into new heights of personal misery and corruption. So we're seeing a lot of these stories, I think, for a reason, there's always gonna be a lot of these stories, but yeah, I think we're seeing a lot of these stories for a reason right now, and they're gonna resonate for that reason right now too.

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